So happy to bring you this episode with Gordon Miller. Gordon recently left his post as publisher of American salon magazine to become the CEO (chief engagement officer) at Hairbrained. He just launched his new podcast called "hairbrained conversations" which is a must listen. Gordon’s history is, in many ways, a recent history of our industry. He’s stood in a very unique place for decades, an unbiased position, a connector between all different factions of the industry. He’s a power networker. A contrarian. And a forward-looking thinker. We talk about his reasons for leaving American salon, how technology has disrupted the industry, and his latest view of social media. I also kept the behind the scenes of our recording so you can see how awkward I can be when doing these podcasts. Enjoy.