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The Making of Donald Trump
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THE NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER that first revealed the Russia connection

The culmination of nearly 30 years of reporting on Donald Trump, this in-depth report by Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston takes a revealingly close look at the mogul's rise to prominence --- and, now, ultimate power

Covering the long arc of Trump's career, Johnston tells the full story of how a boy from a quiet section of Queens, NY would become an entirely new, and complex, breed of public figure. Trump is a man of great media savvy, entrepreneurial spirit, and political clout. Yet his career has been plagued by legal troubles and mounting controversy.

From the origins of his family's fortune, to his own too-big-to-fail business empire; from his education and early career, to his whirlwind and ultimately successful presidential bid, The Making of Donald Trump provides the fullest picture yet of Trump's extraordinary ascendency. Love him or hate him, Trump's massive influence is undeniable, and figures as diverse as Woody Guthrie (who wrote a scathing song about Trump's father) and Red Scare prosecutor Roy Cohn, mob bosses and high rollers, as well as the average American voter, have all been pulled into his orbit.

Drawing on decades of interviews, financial records, court documents, and public statements, David Cay Johnston, who has covered Trump longer and more closely than any other journalist working today, gives us the most in-depth look yet at the man who has shocked the world.


"Providesuseful, vigorously reported overviews of Mr. Trump's life and career ...Mr. Johnston, who has followed the real estate impresario for nearly three decades, offers a searing indictment of his business practices and creative accounting."-Michiko Kakutani, The New York Times

"David Cay Johnston has given us this year's must-read Trump book."-Lawrence O'Donnell, MSNBC's The Last Word

"Johnston devastatinglycovers ground he broke open as a reporter on the Trump beat in Philadelphia and at The New York Times...The best of investigative reporting is brought to bear on a man who could potentially lead the free world."-USA Today

"Carefully fleshes out the details of Trump's known biography...with solid documentation."-Tampa Bay Times
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Release dateAug 2, 2016
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The Making of Donald Trump
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David Cay Johnston

David Cay Johnston is a Pulitzer Prize–winning investigative reporter and bestselling author of The Making of Donald Trump and It’s Even Worse Than You Think. He has lectured on economics, journalism, and tax policy on every continent except Antarctica and is a former president of Investigative Reporters & Editors (IRE). Johnston has been a frequent guest on MSNBC, CNN, the BBC, ABC World News Tonight, Democracy Now!, and NPR’s Morning Edition, among other shows, and was a consultant for the Netflix series House of Cards.

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    77. The Making of Donald Trump by David Cay Johnstonreader: Joe Barrettpublished: 2016format: 5:47 digital audio acquired: library read: Dec 16-29rating: 4This was not a great book for me to read because I'm already overly worked up about what's going to happen to this world with this thing as our president and the book was terribly depressing, making him out to be much worse of a person than I had realized. But I'm trying not to hide under a friendly rock, trying to become informed.I can knock the book around a little, but I should be gentle because it's important. If you like the idea of Donald Trump as president, you are not well informed. Period. There is no other answer. And...as a follow up, I would like to try to figure out why so many of us are ill informed, many willfully.We all know he's narcissist in a class by himself, that he has a force of personality, is a highly effective salesman, that he goes his own way and doesn't listen to anyone, that he's all about his money and himself. That, however, does not make you informed. He's far worse. He perennial liar, and manipulator with adolescent ethics, no sense of consequences, a man with a wreckage in his wake everywhere, and who denies everything. He's someone that won't listen to anyone he doesn't agree with, and will listen to practically anyone who offers him the right kind of praise and loyalty. He has a long record of association with large-scale criminal and mafia elements, not to mention numerous scams, generally in the theme of real estate, but also in his charities and "university". This is the guy who will cause problems everywhere, and then blame everyone else, and get away with it. He more or less never suffers consequences. His record is a bit insane.The book itself suffers a little because of its snark and the arrogance of Johnston. He's really well informed about Trump and really dedicated to his craft as a journalist, and that gives this book a lot of value. For this reason I recommend it, highly. But as you read it becomes clear that Johnston feels he can do no wrong as long he is honorable to the journalist's code of ethics. This is at best an incomplete story, and, if you like, a selection of highlights of the Donald Trump horror stories. It's rushed, and short, which is nice. But what is lost is much of the context in which all this stuff was taking place. I finished feeling very scared by Trump, aware of how bad he can get, but not feeling like I had a good sense of who he was day-to-day.end rant.
  • Rating: 3 out of 5 stars
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    Who is Donald Trump, and how has he risen to the pinnacle of American public life? Those who think they should vote for Donald Trump and those who think they shouldn't ought to read this book. Consider the quality of the men we have chosen to be President in the last fifty years and the messes they got us into. . Then contemplate the quality of the two people we have chosen as our candidates this time around. A lot is at stake in the November 2016 election.

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    So here is the book that dishes all the dirt on Donald Trump. It was released before the election and despite all its lurid claims we now have President-Elect Trump. Johnston reveals in chapter after chapter that Trump may be the most evil, vile, contemptible man to walk the face of the earth. Certainly many of the things laid out here are disturbing. Yet despite all of this voters were faced with the alternative choice of Hillary Clinton, and her loss should probably also reflect on what they saw there.Time will tell whether what we see here in the book will carry on to the Presidency and if it does we may not see its completion. One thing is for sure there will be many like this author lined up in their quest to bring it down.

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  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
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    The Making of Donald Trump (2016) is an accounting of Trump's actions over the past 40 years as documented by a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who has a storage shed full of public documents. Johnson has given many interviews with Trump and knows him personally. This is not an unfair hit-piece rather how Trump got to where he is. The reading is frustrating and disgusting and necessary.

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  • Rating: 4 out of 5 stars
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    This is a profoundly sobering history of an American president. Johnston has followed Trump for decades, long before he became a candidate for U.S. president. The trail begins with Trump's grandfather, goes through his father and up to present day. It was finished in a first edition long before Trump's candidacy and updated in the present version.What is disturbing is that Trump is shown as a con-artist. Whether this is true or not, it is strongly supported by exhaustive documentation and sources. Most disturbing is the portrait that emerges as the author follows Trump's abortive and questionable educational history, his frequent failures and bailouts by his father, his thousands of law suits linked to his treatment of contractors and sub-contractors, and his obvious pathological lying to further his own ends.This should be a must read for anyone even remotely interested in this man and the future of the United States.

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  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
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    I choose to avoid books about political candidates published in an election year. Most books tend to be written by hacks and are not worth the time to read them. However "The Making of Donald Trump" is written by a respected investigative journalist who has credibility for his integrity. If you are a supporter of Donald Trump who has no interest in hearing bad news about him, you will not like this book. If you do not like Donald Trump, this book will provide additional ammunition for you to dislike him further and work against his opportunity to be President.

    I can't say that there were many surprises for me in the book, though I did not know the backgrounds of his father and grandfather or their motivations in life. To coin a phrase, looks like the apple didn't fall far from the tree. Basically Donald Trump is portrayed as a very selfish and vain man focused on making money at any cost. He has very few friends and his poor treatment of people is detailed in the book.

    The book is well researched and documented. It is very depressing that this man has gotten this far in business, media and in politics. I think this says more about the deterioration of our culture and judgment then Trump himself.

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  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
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    As I write, Donald J. Trump is one of two major-party nominees for President of the United States and, therefore, has a non-negligible chance of winning the election. This, despite his being perhaps the most unsuitable candidate in American history for the office. The major theme of David Cay Johnston's book is demonstrating just how unsuitable Trump is, by exploring the man's career and character.Johnston is a Pulitzer-winning reporter, whose beat is how the rich and powerful employ the fine details of law and regulation to maintain their positions and to exploit the poor, weak, and unsophisticated. He has covered Trump for decades, and has benefited from the coverage of others; the sources are in the book's extensive end notes. He supplies a long list of problems with Trump and how the man does business. He writes about sweetheart relationships with gangsters, broken obligations to business partners and customers, deception, and apparently-sociopathic dealings in every part of Trump's life, both in business and personally.If many of these issues were already known to people who follow Trump's candidacy, it's often because Johnston broke those stories. That Trump won the nomination anyway illustrates Johnston's secondary theme, the irresponsibility of the institutions of society that allowed the man's career to proceed, despite his flaws. Trump was a major player in the Atlantic City, New Jersey gambling industry despite underworld associations that should have cost him his casino license; the feckless New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement is certainly one of the institutions that did not do its job. More generally the news media have been vulnerable to Trump's ability to influence what is written about him. Johnston notes that Trump is skilled at "...exploiting the fact that most reporters accurately quote what people say without understanding legal rules or regulatory practice." Easily fooled, ignorant of important issues - of bankruptcy, among other matters. Decades of failure along these lines, not only in Trump's case but with respect to the US right wing generally, have brought us to this point.Of the numerous episodes that I was not previously aware of, the most shocking concerned Trump's great-nephew Wiliam Trump. Born in 1999 to Fred Trump III, who was the son of Donald's deceased older brother Fred Trump Jr., William had severe neurological problems from birth. These conditions were expensive to treat, but were covered by the Trump family medical plan. The Trump paterfamilias, Fred Senior, died in 1999, and William's branch of the family was left out of Fred's will. They sued - and Donald tried to cancel William's medical benefits.If you would be unable possibly to condemn an infant to death to retaliate against his parents, I'm afraid you're just not in Donald's league. And good for you.Much of what we've learned about Trump is not covered here: the Russian connections, the appeals to the most racist groups in the electorate. Johnston concentrates on the parts of the story he can tell best. But what Johnston tells, tells us enough.

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  • Rating: 5 out of 5 stars
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    The massive string of life experiences and actions reached some sort of nadir when I learned that Donald Trump withdrew medical coverage for his deceased brother's grandson... and did it out of revenge. The volume is built on facts, not rhetoric, or fable nor political posturing. It is absolutely stunningly researched -- a rare contrast to the posturing seen on television.

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The Making of Donald Trump - David Cay Johnston

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INTRODUCTION

When Donald Trump rode down the Trump Tower lobby escalator live on national television in June 2015 to announce his campaign for president, nearly every journalist treated his candidacy as a vanity project. Not me. Having covered Trump intensely from 1988 through 1995 and following him ever since, I knew his dramatic entry on live national television indicated he was serious this time in seeking a job he had been talking about publicly since 1985. With no obvious Republican candidate, and a field that eventually grew to seventeen contenders, I also knew this was just the kind of environment where Trump would disrupt the process, not for the benefit of the United States of America, but for Trump.

Immediately I set out writing pieces about Trump, some of them to educate my fellow journalists about the chasm between Trump’s public image and reality. I had a deep knowledge of his spoken words, letters, and writings (well, by his ghost writers). I knew Trump had spent a lifetime cheating and lying and displaying remarkable success at getting away with it, whether he was shorting workers (illegal immigrants included), refusing to pay vendors after they delivered goods and services, swindling investors or bullying anyone who stood between him and his next pile of easy money.

Trump preyed on the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of others, as you will read in the pages ahead. And he spent vast amounts of time currying favor with journalists, mostly those who never let facts get in the way of a good story. Only a few journalists checked and crosschecked his claims and didn’t buy Trump’s nonsense. Faced with skeptical scrutiny, Trump turned to menacing phone calls and visits to editors, sometimes with lawyers threatening lawsuits (and in one case filing one) to suppress inconvenient facts he cannot make go away.

I have been an investigative reporter since I was eighteen years old. I’ve been digging up facts, getting laws changed, and generally making a lot of trouble by reporting over four decades for the San Jose Mercury News, the Detroit Free Press, the Los Angeles Times, The Philadelphia Inquirer, and finally for The New York Times. With one exception, those organizations recruited me. At age nineteen the San Jose Mercury News hired me as a staff writer. Within weeks my byline was on the top of the front page.

From the start, I acted on my own authority in deciding what to report. I was a newsroom rogue who got away with it because my stories engaged readers and got big results: a broadcast chain forced off the air for news manipulations; an innocent man saved from life in prison after I confronted the real killer; Jack Welch giving up his General Electric retirement perks; political spying and crimes by the Los Angeles Police Department revealed; and covering foreign agents secretly interfering in American politics. While at my last paper, I won a Pulitzer Prize for exposing so many tax dodges and loopholes that a prominent tax law professor called me the de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United States.

In 1987, I got interested in casinos after the Supreme Court ruled that Native Americans had a right to own them. I was sure it would lead to the spread of casinos across the country—casinos run mostly by corporate America. For the only time in my life, I applied for a job. The Philadelphia Inquirer liked my idea, so in June 1988, I moved to Atlantic City.

A few days later, I met Donald Trump.

I sized him up as a modern P. T. Barnum selling tickets to a modern variation of the Feejee mermaid, one of the panoply of Barnum’s famous fakes that people decided were worth a bit of their money. Trump was full of himself. I quickly learned from others in town that he knew next to nothing about the casino industry, including the rules of the games. That would turn out to be important, as explained in two chapters near the end of this book.

In the nearly thirty years since then, I have followed Trump intensely; I’ve paid close attention to his business dealings and I’ve interviewed him multiple times. In 1990, I broke the story that, instead of being worth billions, as he’d claimed, Trump actually had a negative net worth and escaped a chaotic collapse into personal bankruptcy only when the government took his side over the banks’, as you will read.

Before technology allowed me to digitize files, I built up a vast trove of Trump documents, as investigative reporters often do with subjects that interest them. I had so many Bankers Boxes of files on Trump and other prominent Americans—Barron Hilton, Jack Welch, and Los Angeles Chief of Police Daryl Gates among them—that for years I rented two storage lockers just to hold them all.

So, when Trump won the Republican nomination for the 2016 election, I was not surprised. After that, I said again and again that polls didn’t matter, votes did; that turnout in key states would determine the outcome; and that Trump might win. Still, I was as surprised as everyone—even Trump and his campaign staff—that he won. His polling numbers were very unfavorable in the closing days. On Election Day, turnout mattered, and voters supported Trump in key industrial states that traditionally voted Democratic: Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

Having spent decades reporting on Trump because I regarded him as both a significant cultural influence in America and a fascinating character, I had kept my files and updated them often. In addition, reporter Wayne Barrett, the first journalist to seriously cover Trump, generously shared his massive collection of files with me. Because of this, I knew what many journalists did not.

First, I knew that Trump had been talking about the presidency since 1985. In 1988, he proposed himself as the running mate of the first George Bush, a job that went to Senator Dan Quayle. In July of the same year, I watched him arrive in Atlantic City on his yacht, the Trump Princess, where cheering crowds greeted him. A phalanx of teenage girls, jumping up and down, squealed with delight as if they had just seen their favorite rock star. As Trump and his then wife, Ivana, took an escalator up into Trump’s Castle Casino, a crowd cheered him on. One man shouted, Be our president, Donald!

I also watched Trump run briefly in 2000 for the nomination of the Reform Party, a fringe group with members in the tens of thousands (as opposed to the millions who call themselves Democrats or Republicans). It was during that brief campaign that Trump declared he would become the first person to run for president and make a profit. He said he had a million-dollar deal to give ten speeches at motivational speaking events hosted by Tony Robbins. He coordinated his campaign appearances around them so the campaign would pay for the use of his Boeing 727 jet. It was classic Trump, seeing profit in everything, even politics. Few people knew about it.

For the 2016 run, a large share of Trump’s campaign money was spent paying himself for the use of his Boeing 757 as well, in addition to his smaller jet, his helicopter, his Trump Tower office space, and other services supplied by Trump businesses. By law, Trump must pay charter rates for his aircraft and market prices for services from his other businesses. This anticorruption law was designed to prevent vendors from underpricing services to win political favors—a legacy of a time when no one imagined that a man of Trump’s presumed immense wealth would buy campaign services from himself. In 2016, the law perversely ensured that Trump made a profit from his campaign for the goods and services he bought from the Trump Organization.

Trump again declared his candidacy in 2012. He was treated as a serious contender by just about everyone except Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC and me. Separately, O’Donnell and I both concluded that Trump’s campaign then had a purpose other than moving to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. His real goal, we surmised, was a more lucrative contract with the NBC television network for his aging Celebrity Apprentice show, where his trademark line was You’re fired.

Indeed, when Trump dropped out, he said, in effect, that as much as the country needed him in the White House, his show needed him more. Based on that, journalists concluded his campaign had been a strange joke. As such, they gave little regard to his announcement for the 2016 election.

But this time things were different. Trump’s ratings were in decline. His show was at risk of being canceled. To Trump, a man who reads the New York tabloids religiously, I knew that just about the worst fate he could imagine for himself, short of death, would be waking up to these Daily News and New York Post covers: NBC to Trump: You’re Fired.

As soon as Trump announced in 2015, I immediately set out to report what I feared the mainstream news media would not. My concern was that coverage would focus on the horserace rather than a serious vetting of the candidate, who had not a scintilla of public service experience. I wrote an early piece that posed twenty-one questions I thought reporters should ask on the campaign trail. Not one of journalists did. Late in the primaries, Senator Marco Rubio brought up my question about Trump University and Senator Ted Cruz posed my question about Trump’s dealings with the Genovese and Gambino crime families, matters explored in this book. But no journalist ever asked any of those questions. I will always wonder what might have happened had journalists (or even some of the sixteen candidates vying with Trump for the Republican nomination) started asking my questions months earlier.

Since taking the oath of office, Trump has acted pretty much as I predicted during many television and radio guest appearances, in talks, and in my columns for The Daily Beast, Investopedia, and essays for others.

While candidate Trump repeatedly accused his opponent of being lazy, it was Trump who disappeared for days at a time and worked short hours on the campaign trail. As president, he has been stunningly slow to fill important positions.

Trump told voters he would not play golf while in office and would not leave the White House. Since taking office he has spent weekend after weekend dining and golfing at Mar-A-Lago and his New Jersey golf course.

But most important is that his actions have revealed what I kept trying to get journalists to focus on during the campaign: Trump doesn’t know anything. Those are strong words and I am sure some readers will find them hard to believe. But Trump’s own words and conduct, as you will learn in this book, and his comments on many issues in 2017 show how appallingly ignorant he is.

During the campaign, I wish one of the news personalities selected to interview candidates in the debates had asked Trump a question I am sure he could not have answered. Keep this question in mind when you read in this book about other questions he answered with replies indicating complete cluelessness.

The question: Since you have been talking about being president for more than three decades, presumably you have read the job description and hopefully studied it closely. Can you please state, with specificity, where that job description can be found and tell us what are the duties, powers, and limits on the president?

Trump, I am sure, would not be familiar with Article II of the United States Constitution. And as for the specifics, Trump’s own statements—as a candidate and as president—show he does not have a clue about the Constitution’s system of checks and balances.

Alas, Trump never faced tough questioning as a candidate in a forum where he could not walk away or give nonsense answers without repeated follow-up. This is a serious problem for the future of American democracy in the television era, when appearances matter more than reality. Trump will not be the last manifestly unqualified candidate who knows how to manipulate television to his or her advantage and fool many people. To guard against that we need to have flint-eyed reporters—not just smiling television news readers—asking tough questions in public forums that are aimed at eliciting facts and truths.

This book is my effort to make sure people around the world know a fuller story about Trump than the one he has polished and promoted with exceptional skill and determination. Trump, who presents himself as a modern Midas even when much of what he touches turns to dross, has studied the conventions of journalists and displays more genius at exploiting them to his advantage than anyone else I have ever known.

Journalists focus on the five W’s: who, what, where, when, why. That is fine for most news reporting, but inadequate for understanding Trump, whose campaign and personality fall outside the norm of politics coverage. Trump ran around those five W’s with a message designed to resonate emotionally with those who want a stern father figure as leader, someone who takes care of his own even if it is at the expense of everyone else. Trump defined his political family as white Americans who are at least nominally Christian. On the campaign trail, he rejected calls to disavow the endorsement of the Crusader, the Ku Klux Klan’s newspaper (Trump claimed during a national television interview just days before the general election that he didn’t know who or what the KKK was), then, unsurprisingly, was shy to denounce white supremacist violence after an alt-right march turned deadly in Charlottesville, Virginia in August 2017.

He appointed as chief executive of his campaign, and, later, White House strategy chief, Steve Bannon, a known anti-Semite who, in his time at Breitbart News Network, published racist articles and bizarre conspiracy theories (including one asserting that House Speaker Paul Ryan, a Republican, is a secret double agent working for Hillary Clinton). Just nine months after that appointment, in a flurry of controversy and infighting, Bannon joined the growing list of advisors and communications personnel—including Reince Priebus, Sebastian Gorka, Sean Spicer, and Anthony Scaramucci—squeezed out of the Trump administration.

For five months, Trump’s campaign manager was Paul Manafort, advisor to dictators and near dictators including a pro-Moscow regime in Ukraine that was ousted by popular uprising. The hiring of Manafort and others—specifically Felix Sater, a Russian-born real estate mogul with mob ties whose 2015 emails indicate that he hoped to help secure both a Moscow-based real estate deal and the American presidency for Trump—showed a disturbing pattern of associations with those around Vladimir Putin, head of the kleptocracy in Moscow that is hostile to more countries than just the United States. Putin openly disparages the very ideas of democracy and individual liberty. Trump applauded Putin throughout the campaign, often gratuitously. And what struck me was how Trump’s praise for Putin paralleled the language in many transcripts of mob soldiers speaking about their bosses.

More important, Trump has worked hard to make sure few people know about his lifelong entanglements with a major cocaine trafficker (you will read about this in the chapter Showing Mercy), with American and Russian mobsters and many mob associates, and with various con artists and swindlers. He has been sued thousands of times for refusing to pay employees, vendors, and others. Investors have sued him for fraud in a number of different cities.

Among Trump’s most highly refined skills is his ability to deflect or shut down law enforcement investigations. His firing of James Comey after the FBI director stepped up his inquiry into Trump campaign dealings with Russians shocked many people, but it did not surprise me. It was just the sort of authoritarian move I expected—and more are likely—because Trump has no respect for Constitutional values like accountability or the independence of courts and law enforcement investigations. Trump also uses threats of litigation to deter news organizations from looking behind the curtain of the seemingly all-wise and all-powerful man they often refer to as The Donald.

At one of my first meetings with Trump, I did something I now wish that many journalists had done before the November 2016 election: I brought up a casino issue that Trump did not know much about, intentionally saying something false, a technique that has many uses in investigative reporting. I did this because my Atlantic City sources—even Trump’s own people—told me that he knew nothing of the casino business except promotion and raking cash to his personal accounts. I treated these claims with extreme skepticism. But to test this claim, I asked a question during that interview which included a falsehood about the game of craps. To my surprise, Trump immediately embraced my faux fact and shaped his answer to it, much the way television psychics listen for clues in what people say to shape their soothsaying. He did it three more times during our meeting.

Trump’s habit of picking up on what others say was on full display when Lester Holt, the NBC Nightly News anchor, asked Trump in late June 2016 about his claim that Hillary Clinton had slept through the Benghazi attack. After Holt noted it had been mid-afternoon where Clinton was, Trump tried to incorporate that into his answer, then tried to bluff his way out of not knowing the facts.

For those who still doubt that Trump lacks basic knowledge about important issues, I will provide many examples. Here is one to set the stage:

During the Republican presidential debate hosted by CNN in December 2015, the conservative radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt asked Trump, What’s your priority among our nuclear triad?

Well, first of all, I think we need somebody absolutely that we can trust, who is totally responsible, who really knows what he or she is doing, Trump responded. That is so powerful and so important. And one of the things that I’m frankly most proud of is that in 2003, 2004, I was totally against going into Iraq because you’re going to destabilize the Middle East. I called it. I called it very strongly. And it was very important. But we have to be extremely vigilant and extremely careful when it comes to nuclear. Nuclear changes the whole ball game. Frankly, I would have said get out of Syria; get out—if we didn’t have the power of weaponry today. The power is so massive that we can’t just leave areas that fifty years ago or seventy-five years ago we wouldn’t care [about]. It was hand-to-hand combat…

Hewitt then followed up, asking, Of the three legs of the triad, though, do you have a priority?

Trump responded: I think—I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me.

Hewitt then turned to Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, whom Trump often derided as an empty suit. Do you have a response?

First, let’s explain to people at home what the triad is, Rubio said. The triad is our ability in the United States to conduct nuclear attacks using airplanes, using missiles launched from silos or from the ground, or from our nuclear subs.

This was not the first time Trump had been asked about how he would allocate money among the three different methods by which the US military can deliver nuclear bombs. Four months earlier, Hewitt had asked Trump the same question on his radio show. Trump gave an answer indicating he had no idea what Hewitt was asking about. He had clearly made no effort in the intervening months to learn.

I think one of the most important things that we have to worry about is nuclear generally speaking, Trump said on Hewitt’s radio show. "The power of nuclear, the power of the weapons that we have today—and that is, by the way, the deal with Iran—the concept of it is so important that you have to make a good deal and what they should have done is that they should have doubled up and tripled

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