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He tested over sixty different chi kung (qigong) forms and Tao meditation systems.

He studied with dozens of different masters, often only to get one superb movement or tiny but valuable insight they had. Master T.K. Shih lived with him for two years. He studied pakua chang with B.K. Frantzis and edited his first book, as well as several books for Tao master Ni Hua Ching. His Wu style tai chi teacher was grandmaster Ed Yu in New York s Chinatown (Mantak Chia's tai chi teacher). He studied Northern Wu style with David Dolbear (USA gold medalist) and his master Liu Jiang Chang in Beijing.

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