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MYANMAR ENGINEERING SOCIETY Overview Of Development of Professional Engineer System and ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer (ACPE) System

U Win Khaing President Myanmar Engineering Society 21-July-2012 Mandalay Hill Resort Hotel

Professional Engineer
Public Safety Mobility Professional Development

The Technology Team


Scientists Engineers Technologists Technicians Artisans/Craftsman

Note: The Technology Team should not be confused with the project or design team. The latter is truly multidisciplinary, and includes management, sales, purchasing, etc.

The Engineering Team


Engineer
Conceptual design Research Project planning Product innovation System development Supervision of technologists, technicians, and craftsmen

Technician
Drafting Estimating Field inspections Data collection Surveying Technical writing

Technologist
Routine product development Construction supervision Technical sales Hardware design and development Coordination of work force, materials, and equipment Supervision of technicians and craftsman

Craftsman
Uses hand and power tools to service, maintain, and operate machines or products useful to the engineering team

Ref: Introduction to Engineering, 3rd Edition, Paul H. Wright, John Wiley and Sons, Inc., 2002.

USA - Professional Engineer


Graduate from ABET (Accreditation Board for Education and Technology) accredited engineering school. Four years of engineering experience accepted by Board of Examiners. 16 hours of written examination:
Fundamentals of Engineering Exam (EIT) Principles and Practice Exam

Code of Ethics The majority of engineers are not professional engineers!

Pathways to become a PE in USA


Final Year Students of BS in Technology/Engineering

NCEES FE/EIT Exam

Experience NCEES - PE Exam Professional Engineer (PE)


NCEES-National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying ,EIT- Engineer in Training

Pathways to become Professional Engineer in Singapore


Approved Qualifications, e.g. BEng from NUS/NTU PEB FE Exam PEB PE Exam
. Summary of Postgraduate Professional Experience . Report on Postgraduate Engineering Experience . Professional Interview (PI)

Experience

Professional Engineer (PE)

Pathways to become a PE in Malaysia


Working adults in Engineering with at least 2 STPM/GCE(A) passes in Mathematics and/or Science subjects
An Approved Qualification, e.g. BE from University of Malaya

IEM/BEM Graduate Examination

BEM Graduate Engineer

Report on Training & Experience BEM - PAE Professional Engineer (PE)

Professional Exams in Engineering in Malaysia BEM Professional Assessment Examination


Documents for Professional Assessment Examination (PAE)
Report : Training and Experience ; 1500 2000 words. Drawings and Calculations (Civil) : Drainage, Irrigation and Flood Mitigation; Hydrology and other areas in water resources; Geotechnical, Soil & Rock Mechanics; Public Health and Environmental; Permanent Way; Roads, Highways and Transportation; Town Planning.

Pathway to PE in Myanmar
Graduate Engineer 1-Registered Graduate Engineer Two Year Working as Graduate Engineer ,Gaining Experiences Registered Engineer Assessment Examination Registered Engineer

5 Year Working as Registered Engineer

Professional Assessment Examination

2-Registered Engineer

3-Professional Engineer

Assessment Examinations
Registered Engineer Assessment Examination will be lighter than Professional Assessment Examination , need to know basic things for doing engineering works in his discipline. Professional Engineer Assessment Examination will be heavy and need to know more detail and must have knowledge in design and practical field of his discipline.

Routes to Recognised PE

Quality Assurance of Graduate and Professional Engineer Recognition


University Academic Requirement

Profession Requirement

Quality Assurance Process --------Accreditation

Graduates

Community and Industry Assurance ---------Monitoring

National Recognition ----------Regional Recognition ----------International Recognition

Government Requirement

UNIVERSITY

INDUSTRY

Criteria for Accrediting Engineering Programs Program Outcomes and Assessment


Engineering programs must demonstrate that their students attain:
(a) an ability to apply knowledge of mathematics, science, and engineering (b) an ability to design and conduct experiments, as well as to analyze and interpret data

(c) an ability to design a system, component, or process to meet desired needs within realistic constraints such as economic, environmental, social, political, ethical, health and safety, manufacturability, and sustainability (d) an ability to function on multi-disciplinary teams
(e) an ability to identify, formulate, and solve engineering problems (f) an understanding of professional and ethical responsibility

Criteria for Accrediting Engineering Programs Program Outcomes and Assessment (cont,)
(f) an understanding of professional and ethical responsibility (g) an ability to communicate effectively (h) the broad education necessary to understand the impact of engineering solutions in a global, economic, environmental, and societal context (i) a recognition of the need for, and an ability to engage in life-long learning

(j) a knowledge of contemporary issues


(k) an ability to use the techniques, skills, and modern engineering tools necessary for engineering practice.

Basic Needs for Professional Engineer


Graduate from Accredited / Recognized University Have Professional Experiences Passed Fundamentals of Engineering Examination Passed Professional Engineer Assessment Examination Passed Professional Interview

Mobility of Professional Engineers in ASEAN Region

2005 Mutual Recognition Arrangement (MRA) was signed


For ASEAN Free Trade Agreement , for movement of Professional Mutual Recognition Arrangements (MRA)are signed by ASEAN Countries For Engineering Services , MRA on Engineering Services was signed in 2005 The WTO Code for this Engineering Service MRA is CPC (Central Product Classification) 8672

This Code concerned to engineering services concerned to Consultants Professional Engineers

Central Product Classification (CPC)

Central Product Classification (CPC)

Monitoring committee (MC)


Monitoring committee (MC) shall be established in and by participating ASEAN members country to develop process and maintain an ASEAN Charted Professional Engineer Register (ACPER) in the country of origin. The specific responsibilities of the MC is seeking authorization to initiate a Register for the purpose of the ASEAN Charted Professional Engineer

Register (ACPER) shall prepare a statement spelling out the criteria and
procedures for assessing compliance with the qualifications set out for professional engineer applicants the statement shall be reviewed by

ASEAN Charted Professional Engineer Coordinating Committee (ACPECC).

ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer Coordinating committee (ACPECC) The ASEAN chartered professional engineer coordinating committee (ACPECC) shall be established and shall have the authority to confer and withdraw the title of ASEAN Charted Professional Engineer (ACPE). This authority may be delegated in writing from time to time by the ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer Coordinating Committee (ACPECC) to the authorized Monitoring Committee (MC) in each participating ASEAN member country. Members of the ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer Coordinating Committee (ACPECC) shall comprise of one appointed representative from each Monitoring Committee (MC) of the participating ASEAN member countries.

Myanmar Board of Engineers (MBE) 1. Myanmar Board of engineers is an authorized agency of Professional Regulatory Authority (PRA) to register the National Engineers as Registered Graduate Engineer (RGE), Registered Diploma Engineer (RDE), Registered Technologist Engineer (RTE), Senior Registered Engineer (SRE) ,Professional Engineer (PE).Now at initial stage Registration of Professional Engineer (PE) is started. 2. To classify the grade of foreign and local companies, which related to engineering construction works.
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3. To review and check Technical related competency matters of


construction and consultation companies for registration. .

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Authorised Agency Myanmar Board of Engineer (MBE)

Ministry of Construction (Focal Ministry)

Professional Regulatory Authority (PRA) (12) Members

Monitoring Committee (MC) (24 Members) For Registration of ACPE

Myanmar Board of Engineers (MBE) (16 Members)

For Registration of PE

Criteria for ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineers (ACPE)


1- Completed an accredited or recognized engineering program 2- Been assessed within their own jurisdiction as eligible for independent practice 3- Gained a minimum of seven years practical experience since graduation 4- Spent at least two years in responsible charge of significant engineering work. 5- Complied with Continuing Professional Development (CPD) policy at a satisfactory level 6- Registered ACPE must agree to the following---1- Codes of Professional Conduct ---2- Accountability

Requirements for ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer (ACPE) System


Notification of Participation to MRA on Engineering Services Professional Regulatory Authority (or Its Authorized Agency)-For National Professional Engineer. Monitoring Committee For ACPE Assessment Statement-For National PE and ACPE Licensing and Registration Rules for Engineering For National PE and need to submit to ACPE Coordinating Committee.

2005Attending ASEAN Coordination Committee on Services (CCS) meeting on this matters ,but no outcome ,because requirements of MRA are not executed 2007Ministry of Construction formed Professional Regulatory Authority with Public Works officials on 7th Nov 2007

Ministry of Construction formed Monitoring Committee as per MRA requirement on 16th June 2011 with officials from other Government Departments, City Development Committee Technical Institutes and Myanmar Engineering Society 27th SepCCS 66 held in Singapore - ACPECC 13 held back to back with CCS66 Myanmar delegation headed by Chairman of Monitoring Committee MD U Kyaw Lin , U Than Myint ,U Khin Maung Sai and U Tin Maung Win attended.
Letter of Participation for MRA on Engineering Services was submitted to General Secretary of ASEAN from FERD This is the very first step to become an official member of ACPECC (ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer Coordinating Committee)

Fulfillment of ASEAN MRA Requirements


After attending 4 consecutive ASEAN meetings and with collaboration and support of Ministry of Construction and FERD the requirements are fulfilled. Now we are implementing the Professional Engineer (PE) System and ASEAN Chartered Professional (ACPE) System .

Advantages of PE System and ACPE System


First, Professional Engineer System is needed for safe guarding the Public Second, In this globalization age Mobility of Engineers is needed, for this need Professional Engineer System is must for mutual recognition Third , PE system will enhance the development of Engineering Profession as PE needs Qualification and need to comply Continuing Professional Development requirements.

According to ASEAN MRA on Engineering Services , National PE must be registered at ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer Coordinating Committee (ACPECC). For working in other ASEAN countries, First National PE must be ACPE and then register at host country Professional Regulating Authority as Registered Foreign Professional Engineer and work in collaboration with Local PE.

So, when PEs from ASEAN Countries come to Myanmar as ACPEs we must have our Local ACPEs to work with them. It is really important of our Country for the benefit of our Country and Development of our Engineering Profession and safeguarding of National Professionals during our National Development Stage and under ASEAN Free Trade Agreement. For those who want to work in other ASEAN Countries also have the right to work as Registered Foreign Professional Engineers.

So ADVANTAGES are-1- SAFETY -2- MOBILITY -3- ENGINEERING PROFESSION DEVELOPMENT -4- BENEFICIAL TO OUR NATION AND ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS

Eligible to Apply to become ASEAN Chartered Professional Engineer (ACPE)


After register as Professional Engineer at Myanmar Board of Engineers , Registered PE can apply to become ACPE to ACPE Monitoring Committee (MC) ALL applicants need to fulfill the requirements laid down by Monitoring Committee as per MRA requirements and its Review Panel.

Applications for Professional Engineers


Application Forms are available at Myanmar Board of Engineers Myanmar Engineering Society Building at Kyat 1000/- per set. First Form Application for a Professional Engineer This form is to be submitted to MBE with initial Registration Fee & Assessment Fee of Kyat 25000/-. MBE will arrange orientation courses for Assessment for Applicants. Second Form-Application for Professional Assessment-This form is to be submitted after the Applicant has gained knowledge and experiences of the prescribed requirements on his own and ready to be assessed by MBE. After successful assessment and after the registration fee of Kyat 50000/- is paid, the Applicant will be registered as PE and certificate will be given.

Professional Engineer Categories


Civil 1- Structural ,2- Geotechnical,3-Road, 3-Bridge,4-Water Resources , 5Building Construction Construction Management Environmental Electronics Electrical Mechanical 1. Airconditioning, Refrigeration and Mechanical Ventilation, 2. Automobile, 3. Industrial, Manufacturing & Process, 4. Machinery & Equipment Maintenance Chemical Mining Metallurgy Petroleum And others We are discussing with Senior Engineers and other experienced engineers to develop the requirements and essential needs of PE in various discipline and specific area.

Fundamentals of Engineering Subjects


Mathematics Thermodynamic Engineering Probability and Statistics

Electricity and Mechanism

Chemistry

Fluid Mechanics

Computers

Material Properties

Ethics and Business Practices

Strength of materials Engineering Mechanics (Statics and Dynamics)

Engineering Economics

Professional Engineer Assessment


Professional Engineer Exam To submit Summary of Professional Experience To submit Report on Engineering Experience Professional Interview (PI) Assessment will be done by Senior Experienced Engineers and Members of Myanmar Board of Engineers

In this initial stage 20 years experienced engineers who are involved in engineering practices in his or her life and have sound knowledge on engineering will get special treatment but need to fulfill requirements set out for them such as attending special courses and attending workshops and making presentations and need to write a sound report on his or her professional experiences. Professional Experiences is a must for PE.

MYANMAR ENGINEERING SOCIETY MES Building, Hlaing Universities Campus Hlaing Tsp, 11052 Yangon, Myanmar Email : mes@mptmail.net.mm Website: www.mes.org.mm

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