Return-Path: Received: from DialupEudora (jupiter) by jupiter.rambus.com [¢.1/SMI-¢.1) id AA13039: Wed. 9 Mar 94 09:24:18 PST Dace: Wed. 9 Mar 94 09:24:16 PST Message-Id: <9403091724.AA13039@jupicer-rambus.com> To: marketing, gtate, kano From: crisp@jupiter (Richard Crisp! Subject: JEDEC day 2 (morning, gen Memories discussion) Ge: erisp ‘The EE Times article was useful to have here. I gave copies to Nishiwaki-san of OKI, To meyer of Siemens, to Scharrenberg of Hyundai, to Chen of Mitsubishi, to Russell of NEC, to Walther of Micron, Lai of intel and Fang of SUN. Each was very interested and intrigued ‘The meeting opened with a lot of controversy regarding Patencs. TI and Micron are embroiled in a lawsuit and apparently both Jim Tomsend of Toshiba and Howard Sussman of Sanyo have volunteered to testify on Micron’s behalf at the erial ‘TI is really distressed wich this, and presented a motion to get JEDEC to Clarify their patent policy. TI would like the JEDEC/EIA policy to define the scope of the patents required to be disclosed to the committee to be Limited to che two following scenario: 1) The patent at issue is required to be used to comply with che standard 2) In the absence of a standard, those seeking to make the type of item being standardized would be required to use the patent Ty also claims that JEDEC policy prohibits menbers from testifying in trials such as the Ti-Micron trial. In response, Townsend said chat the rules do not prohibit ‘individuals’ from acting as “individuals* and testifying. Sussman will be be deposed on Thursday he says, btw. Micron says the policy exists due to anti-trust concerns. That if a group of companies wanted to keep out competition they could agree amongst. thenselves to standardize something that is patented and not license those that they do not want to compete with. Micron says TI is discriminatory in their licensing practice by demanding money from sone companies and simply cross licensing other companies. As a result, Walther (MICRON) says, that TI is demanding unreasonable royalties Greater than Micron’s profit margin that illegally prevents Micron from participating as a supplier for certain devices. ‘The whole issue got pretty nasty and was finally squelched by Townsend. He asked for a motion to cut off discussion and got it passed. Before that happened, Sussman mentioned that he was scheduled to give a deposition ‘Thursday and he also made a motion chat TI withdraw from JEDEC pending resolution of the patent issue! The motion did not carry. Other Patent News: 1) Philips announced they had a patent covering center power/gnd pins on memory packages (5,126,822). Moto got particularly irritated with this news. They were strong proponents of this effort back in the mid 80's OUTSIDE COUNSEL ONLY R155836 ‘x0724-001was there. Moto feels like this may be a problen due © of the reporting of the patent (issued 30Jun 92). for one would \d the claims and see what date it was filed etc 2) Micron reported the following TZ patents: 4,636, 986/5,195, 056/¢, 961, 173/4, 817, 058/¢, 807,189 (apply to es DRAMs reportedly). I need to check co see if these are the ones we y know about or not. 3) TE reported chat they hold the following patents: 5,118, 298/5, 146, 312/5, 155, $78/5, 164, 815/5, 206, 536 661/5,233,220/5,239,199. TI says they apply to LOC packaging and are cessary to implement the standard. oon: DRAM session. tr looks like the 64M SDRAM Standardization effort is underway. From war perspective we need to have a response. I suggest for starters @ point out that we already have our standard set: pinout, pin on are common from one generation to the next => another advantage: JEDEC is planning what they will do next, we are already done UUTSIDE COUNSEL ONLY R1ssa37 ‘cx0724-002