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redirect was on training people the difference between right

and wrong, on whether or not there was responsibility to

protect the Agency, whether Mr. MacLean was a trustworthy

agent.

infrastructure, for that conclusion.

And there was specific kind of the skeleton, the

And I'm wondering whether it's a relevant factor for

Mr. Donzanti whether Mr. MacLean was acting lawfully.

that that's an important premise for assessing

JUDGE KANG:
MS. CALAGUAS:

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JUDGE KANG:

Mr. Devine,

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overruled.

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I think

all the answers.

I've heard enough.

The objection is

Please repeat the question.

MR. DEVINE:

Yes, sir.

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Q.

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removal decision whether Mr. MacLean was acting lawfully or

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not?

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A.

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when you say "lawfully," and exactly what

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Q.

Mr. Donzanti, did that matter to you in making your

I'm not sure I understand the the question when it

If Mr. I'm glad to further explain, sir.

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If Mr. MacLean had a legal right to disclose that

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information, would that have affected your assessment whether

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he was sufficiently trustworthy to work with?

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A.

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the incident, you know, wasn't sustain- one of the

Yes.

If he had a legal right, and it wasn't and the

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specifications wasn't sustained, then that would change my

opinion.

Q.

102,

Sir, I'd like to direct you to your deposition, page

MS. CALAGUAS:

BY MR. DEVINE:

Q.

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Objection, Your Honor.

line 25.
MS. CALAGUAS:

This is an improper way of impeaching

the witness.

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JUDGE KANG:

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Mr. Devine, as I stated before, go ahead and ask your

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question.

Ms. Calaguas, objection's sustained.

The witness is here on the stand,

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MR. DEVINE:

Oh, okay.

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and if you need to impeach,

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MR. DEVINE:

I'm sorry, Your Honor.

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JUDGE KANG:

I'll allow you to read the relevant

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portions.

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Q.

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have worked with Mr. MacLean even if a judge said he was

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acting lawfully?

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When you were deposed didn't you state that you couldn't

MS. CALAGUAS:

Objection, Your Honor.

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depo transcripts can speak for themselves.

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that he's asking him presently?

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MR. DEVINE:

Yes.

I mean the

Is that a question

Yes?

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