Suzy left, Jen right

Jen, 11th grade, Westview HS, Georgia, March 17th 2006

VOY FORUM
Sandy: I think it was wrong for you to receive corporal punishment from a man and with another
man acting as a witness. It must have been terribly humiliating.
I don't know what the DEAL is with only women being allowed to paddle girls. It's not LIKE we are
dropping our pants for it!!!
It wasn't THAT bad. I did choose to have Mr. Halder give me the paddling because I know him
personally and we go to the same church. I know Mr. Halder outside of school and my parents
know him. He's a nice man and so I felt a little closer to him than the other A/P's. I wasn't sure if
he would go easy on me, but the possibility did cross my mind. I was quietly praying that HE
would be kind to me, but I knew it was going to HuRt no matter WHO did it to me. Maybe I
thought HE would go easier on me than anyone else, but mostly I chose him because I know and
trust him as being a good Christian...
(MOST OF THE DETAILS OF HER PUNISHMENT CAME FROM HER BLOG)
In answer to other questions on Voy & responses to blog comments:
I've had some time to think about what happened, and I'm cool with how it all worked out.
I don't know if the swats improved my study habits, but I'm keeping my mouth shut in CLASS um, most of the time. :)
I am MORE aware of paddling now. When I go near the Admin office I think about the swats and
when I see a guy or gal go in the office or come out of it, I ask myself if that person is going in to
get swats? 99% chance of NOT, but you wonder
Bill: If you get into trouble at school this year, will you choose to be paddled?
DEPENDS on why, who and how. But maybe YES.
Jen, 17, 12th grade, Westview HS, Georgia, January 6th 2007
VOY FORUM
Hank: I heard thru a reliable source that jen was paddled the day before her schools christmas
break started. is this true Jen? hope not.
Jen: HMMM....WHO told you about this because I wasn't going to make a big deal out of it. It's
OKAY that you know now. Less than 4 months to graduation! WOW!
I got paddled on Friday, Dec 15 2006. I got 6 swats from Mr. Halder for cutting 3 classes. I was
REALLY not going to go public with this because I feel SO stupid about it. I REALLY thought I was
going to get away without getting caught!!!
Dad did find out, and grounded me for 3 days. I got off REAL light with him. The LECTURE
though....was a KILLER. I'm surprised I didn't get a "whoopin", but I'm not complaining!!! If YOU
had been paddled instead of me, you would probably think it was enough. With my dad, I never

know how he's going to react to something I do wrong. He's unpredictable but after he found what
I went through at school, I think he decided I had enough!
Ken: Six swats! Ouch! I bet sitting down afterwards was a problem! Did Mr Hadler paddle you
harder this time as well as longer? I know our AP used to spank harder if it was our second time.
Sitting down wasn't my only problem. Walking was hard to do! But, sitting was the most difficult.
We have a puffy couch in our family room. I spent a lot of time there.
I don't think he paddled me harder, but it was twice as many swats than the first time and that's
was a shocker for me. I wasn't as ready for it as I thought I was when I bravely told him I wanted
the swats!
We were given the option of a 3-day suspension that would have been effective after winter break.
Sounds like 3 more days of break, but it's not that simple because you miss 3 days of
assignments. You get a ZERO for every assignment you miss and you're not allowed any makeups.
My relationship with Mr. Halder is still good. I don't hold anything against him. Honestly, just the
opposite. He could have left me to the killer (Ms. Marshall) but for some reason, he takes an
interest in me. He didn't talk to Kaitlyn or Suzy.
I don't know why I had to get 6. One of my friends got 5 and the other chose to be suspended. Mr.
Halder could have only given me 3 and maybe harder than the 3 he gave me the last time. I don't
know.
I had to bend over Mr. Halder's desk, just like the last time he swatted me. Ms. Marshall usually
paddles the girls in my school, and she makes you lean on to the desk but not all the way over.
MC: Jen, who was the witness? Was it the same man that witnessed your other paddling? Does he
sit or stand and what does he do while your being paddled? Did they tell you to face forward or
did you look back?
His name is Mr. Dietrich and he teaches psychology and social science. I've never been in any of
Mr. Dietrich's classes, so I don't know him that well but he seems nice to me. I hear his classes
are easy, but that has nothing to do with anything. He doesn't do anything. There is a form that I
had to sign but Mr. Halder went over that with me. Mr. Dietrich only showed up to watch the
paddling. After that, he left.
FULL STORY FROM HER BLOG
OK...I have had a really busy, busy last 2 weeks SO ThAt is why I'm only NOW getting around to
posting what happened 12/15. I'M SORRY. Good thing is...I NOW know where I'm going to college
this fall....
Well, anywho, me and 2 other girls cut 3 classes on 12/15. It was the first 3 classes of the day. It
was one of those "spur of the moment" decisions that obviously didn't take much thought or
planning. It was the last day before winter break so we thought we were safe from getting caught.
The 3 of us met at Sonic and had breakfast and then snuck on cmapus between periods 3 and 4.
My 4th M-W-F class is cosmology 305 (an elective) and people come in late for that class all the
time. So I snuck in and went on about my day.
After my 5th class, our lone female Assistant Principal, Ms. Marshall, called me out and asked me if
I had cut my first 3 classes along with Kaitlyn and Suzy. I knew I was caught, so admitted it and
she told me to come down to her office. When I got there, Kaitlyn and Suzy were there and so was
Mr. Halder. I was relieved to see Mr. Halder because I don't like Ms. Marshall. She has a mean
streek to her. She also comes off as being sort of a cld person. Mr. Halder saw me and I saw him
and I lowered my head out of embarrassment. I was worried that he thought I didn't want to talk
to him. That wasn't it at all.
We sat outside Ms. Marshall's office while she and Mr. Halder talked inside. After a few long

minutes, Mr. Halder came out and asked me if I wanted to come with him down to his office.
Either that, or I could stay and talk with Ms. Marshall. I told him I'd like to come with him. I stood
up and walked out with Mr. Halder. I know Kaitlyn and Suzy thought that I was crazy because I
looked back and saw a strange look on their face as we were walking out. Mr. Halder and I walked
down the hall to his office. Several kids saw us. They probably saw the blank look on my face!
When we got to his office, Mr. Halder told me to sit down. He sat down behind his desk and gave
me a big huge sigh. Then he told me to tell me what I did. I nervously told him. I won't go into the
details of what we did because it's a long story. After a 15-minute talk, he told me I could either
have a paddling or be suspended for 3 days, commencing after winter break. I really, really
thought he was being harsh on me and I told him that in no uncertain terms. He then went into a
long lecture that eventually made sense to me. I asked him how many swats I'd have to take and
he said 6, which I think is the school maximum.
It was REALLY a hard decision and Mr. Halder could tell I was struggling with it. Then I asked him
if I would be spanked (yes, I used that word) by him or by Ms. Marshall. He told me it was my
choice. I asked him if he had a recommendation for me and he told me that he recommended I
take the spanking (yes, HE used that word). He didn't sya that I should take it from him, but I
GOT that impression from him.
Mr. Halder told me that he couldn't keep this off my record. He said too many people know about
it and it wouldn't be fair to the other girls who would be having the incident put on their record. I
understood.
I chose the swats and I asked him to do it. From that point on, I was in a fog. I was so nervous, I
wasn't sure WHAT was going on. He called in a witness Mr Dietrich, who didn't talk to me other
than to say hello or something like that. He was all business. Mr. Halder was more casual about it
all.
Mr Halder then got the paddle out of his desk. He told me to lean over his desk and "get into
position". I was wearing thin black stretch pants so I didn't have to do the thing with emptying out
my pockets since I didn't have any pockets.
Mr. Halder stood behind me and to my left. Mr. Dietrich stood behind me and to my right, so he
was looking at me behind, but I think that is what he's supposed to do. They didn't tell me to face
forward.
Mr Halder rubbed me with the paddle before he started and then 2 times in between swats. He
also patted me with it. That bugs me because it makes me think a swat is on the way and I
naturally lurch forward. They don't like when you do that. They want your behind out and if you
lurch forward, they expect you to get back in position immediately. It's humanly impossible not to
move some when you get swatted. I think Mr Halder told me twice to "stick it out" but I knew the
drill so I did that on my own. It's easy to do before the first swat but much harder to do before the
sixth one.
He put the paddle against my behind and then smacked me with it. It seemed to take forever
before I got that first swat. The other 5 went slowly, too. I yelped after the 2nd one and was
crying after the 3rd one. I was such a baby. It WAS embarrassing. I remember bawling after the
3rd swat. I was SO embarrassed. By the 6th swat, I was numb. It was bad, bad, bad. Although I
think he wasn't all that hard on me, I was STILL in shock over all that was going on. I'm normally
alert and aware of everything going on around me, but this paddling was such an off-the-wall
experience for me, that it was hard to fathom at the time it was happening.
That second swat really hurt bad because I moved a little. I knew it was coming and I was trying
to brace myself for it. It's hard to explain. The intensity of the pain made me stand straight up and
lurch forward.
I looked back 3 times during the paddling and Mr. Dietrich was standing there with his arms
crossed. He was watching my behind. I don't know what else he was supposed to be doing. I can
only say that it LOOKED like his only function was to watch me get swatted and he sure did IT.

6 was far worse than 3. I don't think the intensity was worse, but the amount of time it took to get
6 swats was HARD to deal with. I don't know, it may have really only taken 30 seconds, but that's
a long TIME to me.
I don't know who saw me leave Mr Halders office, if anyone. I was crying and couldn't see
straight. If anyone saw me, I didn't see them. It was hard to walk.
It was VERY hard to sit in my car BUT I wanted to get home as fast as I could. I was VERY
uncomfortable.
I DO remember my behind being numb for hours and the redness still being there the next
morning. My behind was numb in one place and stinging everywhere else. I think I got 3 or 4 of
the swats in the same place and that made it numb there.
I don't know if he paddled harder or if I just felt it more because of what I was wearing and
because I got six swats instead of three. This paddling was right there with the whipping my dad
gave me in '05 for cutting. Both seem equally bad to me.
After a few days, I started thinking about all that happened and felt a real sense of shame about it
all. I didn't want anyone to know. I was fortunate that it happened on the Friday before winter
break, because that meant I wouldn't be going back to school for 3 weeks and that would give all
this some time to go away.
I talked to Kaitlyn and Suzy that Sunday. Kaitlyn took the 3-day pass and Suzy took 5 swats from
Ms. Marshall. Suzy couldn't believe I took my swats from Mr. Halder. I confessed to her that it
wasn't my first paddling from him.
So, that's what happened to me. A big event in my life that won't be forgotten even though I WILL
try!
I DO take responsibility for my actions. I regret them very much and I did endure a VERY painful
punishment. I would NEVER cut school again.
JEN
RESPONSES TO COMMENTS ON HER BLOG
I chose paddling because I wanted to get it over with. My only regret is that I didn't THINK about
what I was wearing. But that is nothing but circumstance working against me.
I'm glad I chose the swats but it was more severe than I expected. I guess I thought he would
only give me 3 swats and what I was wearing really made a big difference in how well I felt it.
Circumstances were not good for me that day.
I was wearing black stretch pants so I didn't have to do the thing with emptying out my pockets
since I didn't have any pockets this last time. My shirt wasn't long enough to cover my behind so
that didn't apply this time either.
I wasn't bruised...but it StUnG much more than my first paddling. I s'pose that's the best
description of the diff between getting it on jeans and getting it on stretch pants.
I was more embarrassed than upset. The first time wasn't SO embarrassing but this time it was...
only because I'm ashamed about the cutting. To be honest, the only thing that I cared about, and
still care about, was getting the punishment over with so I could get on with my life. The real
embarrassment wasn't getting paddled, it was the terrifying prospect of the whole school finding
out what I did and also possibly getting kicked off the squad. That would be the ultimate
humiliation.
Yes, I went straight home and so did Suzy. I didn't see her after, but I called her on Sunday and
we talked about it. I think she was more upset over the swats than I was. I guess Ms. Marshall
was hard on her...with the lecturing and all that. Yes, it was her first paddling and she totally
regrets taking it.

Yes, I took my own car that day and I was able to get home but I was totally numb back there. It
was hard to walk.
Ken: CP is, of course, meant to hurt a lot and your AP certainly made sure it did!
YES, he did!
I didn't tell dad right away. Mr. Halder called him around 8:00 that night and told him. Dad had
worked late anyway so it's not like he was home long enough for me to talk to him before Mr.
Halder called. Dad was upset with me and upset that I didn't call him at work and tell him what
happened. I don't know how many minutes the lecture went on for, but it felt like an eternity!
I did see Mr. Halder at church. It was hard to face him so I avoided eye contact with him as much
as possible. He did paddle me harder than last time or maybe it was that I got twice as many
swats, but I can tell you it was MUCH more painful than the last paddling.
We talked last week when I went to his office to talk to him about UT Georgia. He wanted to know
what I was going to major in and if I was going to the cheerleader tryouts next month. We didn't
talk too much about the swats. I told him that I wouldn't want it to happen again!
I think I'll remember this last paddling for a while! It's at the top with the one belt spanking I got.
:(
And NO, it wasn't worth skipping for a coffee with my friends. Not EVEN close!
Jen, when you were paddled in halder's office, was the door closed?
Yes, he closed the door and closed the blinds just before IT began.
Did any friends or staff members see you and halder go into his office?
There are people that sit near his office but I don't remember any familiar faces.
When you bent over the desk where were your hands?
I grabbed the other side of the desk. My hands were in front of me except when I jumped and
grabbed my behind.
Were you told to spread your feet apart?
I was told to bend over the desk and HOLD ON. He didn't explicitly tell me to spread my feet WIDE
apart. He did tell me to spread 'em. I think they have you do that to help you maintain your
balance.
How long were you bent over?
I don't know. A long time.
Did halder rub the paddle on your behind before the 1st swat or in between swats?
Before the 1st one and I think two other times.

I didnt mind, but I don't GET why he did it.

After you felt the 1st swat....did you think you would be able to take the other 5?
LOL, no, no, no!
The sound was pretty loud. The pain was more or less what I expected but it's not something you
can prepare yourself for.
Did you stand up or jump up in between swats?
Yes, I jumped up after the 2nd one and I raised up a little after the 5th one.

I was embarrassed about crying/yelping but I wasn't going to try to hold it in the 2nd time I was
paddled. I'm not that stoic!
Were you allowed to rub your behind in between swats?
No, but I did after the 2nd one.
When Mr Halder finished paddling you, did he lecture you some more or did he let you go straight
away?
I sat down on his couch and bawled. I remember him putting the paddle away and then sitting
down at is desk. He said one or two things to me and then I left. I think he was trying to comfort
me verbally but I wasn't listening.
How long did the sting of the paddling last afterwards?
I was numb all that night and sore the next day. I didn't do much THAT weekend! I THOUGHT it
was going to be like the first paddling, only with twice as many swats. In FACT, this time was
MUCH more painful.
Jen do you think it was fair that you got 6 good licks thru panty-thin pants with 2 men looking on
while your friend Suzy got 5 licks from a woman on thicker pants than yours?
I don't know how anyone can truly say WHAT is fair and what isn't. I happened to be wearing what
I was wearing THAT day and it happened that Mr. Halder asked for Mr. Dietrich to be the witness.
Sure, I would have PREFERRED that it only be Mr. Halder there to swat me but it didn't work out
that way. I don't think any of this is anyone's fault other than my own.
The type of clothing I wore made a big difference. I had read about girls jeans and underwear
typically being thinner than boys jeans and underwear but I had not thought that it really made
much difference, however I WILL say that there is a big difference between being paddled through
jeans versus being paddled through stretch pants.
All this talk about two men watching my behind... isn't that what they are supposed to do?
Especially Mr Halder. I want him to look. If he's not looking, he may miss and that paddle could
really do some damage.
I don't know how many girls get paddled a week or a month because it's kept quiet....BUT I think
more get it than I thought would FWIW. I think 5-10 girls a month get paddled and mostly by Ms.
Marshall. I go to a large school so maybe the number is higher.
Besides Suzy, I know 2 other girls who have had swats. One is a close friend and the other is a girl
that I don't know all that well. Both girls were paddled by Ms. Marshall. My gf's said they made
the right choice of punishment but Suzy has doubts.
Yes, 6 swats is the max and yes, I think you can get paddled more than once a week. THAT would
be tuff!
I know I'm not the only senior to be paddled. I know 2 other seniors who have been paddled. Not
something any of US are proud of. :)
In my school, there are only 3 people that can give swats: Our Principal and his two Assistant
Principals. Actually, I think the assistants do most of the paddlings, with the male assistant
paddling the boys for the most part and the female assistant paddling the girls. There is only one
paddle that I know of and I don't think anyone has ever complained that a paddling was given
improperly or unfairly. I know the 2 paddlings that I've had, have been fair.
JEN
Tom L
I worked as a High School Assistant Principal for many years, early 80's until mid-90's, so I have
considerable experience with paddling High School students. Although I did on a few occasions

give more than 6 licks, this was very rare. So I think it would be fair to say that your paddling was
among the most severe given to girls in the US today. From what I've read it seems you took it
well and learned from the experience.
I know you didn't think so at the time, and probably still don't, but your choice of clothing that day
was actually to your benefit. Mr Halder knew that to make your punishment effective he had to
inflict a certain amount of pain, enough to make you not want to feel it again. You said that the
paddling left you very red, but not bruised, which is exactly as it should be. If you had been
wearing thicker clothing he would have had to spank you harder which would have made bruising
more likely. The fact that you wore thin tight pants meant that you could feel the sting of the
paddle rather than the 'dull thud' that occurs through thicker clothing. Making your spanking
sufficiently painful, without the need to spank you so hard that it bruised you. Thick clothes dull
the noise, while through thin clothes there is a sharper 'smack'. I guess it's a little louder through
thin clothes too.
(Jen: I noticed a diff, not only in the sound of impact but in how well it was FELT, too! I don't
think the sound was like a gun shot but it was pretty loud. The pain was more or less what I
expected but it's not something you can prepare yourself for.)
You questioned why he touched the paddle against your buttocks before the licks. This again is for
you're benefit. In doing so he can gauge the thickness of your clothing, thus how hard he needs to
spank you. Also this helps him to aim the licks accurately, which greatly reduces the risk of injury
to yourself. The paddle is an extension of his hand. He is targeting where he wants the lick to land
when he puts the paddle against your behind. It also helps determine the thickness of your
clothes.
You also wrote "They want your behind out and if you lurch forward, they expect you to get back
in position immediately. It's humanly impossible not to move some when you get swatted." The
paddle should only be applied to a specific area, namely the lower part of the buttocks. By using
the position you described, bent fully over the desk gripping the far side, the 'target area' is clearly
presented to the paddler. Anytime you move you put yourself at risk from a mis-aimed lick which
could injure you. While it may seem that he was being cruel in insisting that you stay still, he was
in fact looking out for you. In telling you to get back into position immediately he is simply trying
to get the paddling over with as quickly as possible, which I would assume you would want.
(Jen: ThAnK YoU for taking the time to tell me this. It's special to have a person in your position to
talk to. I couldn't really ask Mr. Halder why things happened the way they did so your view of it all
is helpful. Now that I'm a grad, I think I have a better appreciation for men in your position.
Nobody really thinks about you guys, about how hard you try to maintain discipline.)

Blog entry Friday April 27th 2007.

Well...I have to confess that I'm feeling frisky almost every day now. My misbehaving knows no
bounds!!! Maybe it's the seniors 07 spirit that's infected me but I cannot concentrate in school. In
fact, I feel like skipping but I don't want to find myself bent over the assistant principal's desk
again or toting a nasty note home to my parents so maybe I'll just keep staying up late every
night so I won't be tempted to really do something REAL CrAzY the next day!!! After all, I only
have 23 more days of school left....
JEN