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Lucien: I am here with David "Avocado" Wolfe, here to give you his
expertise on raw food nutrition and superfood nutrition. As you
know, David Wolfe is a raw food legend. He pioneered this entire
industry well over 15 years ago now, and we have been around since
about 2001-2002. Len Foley and David Wolfe pioneered this website
and we have got groundbreaking information coming your way
every month without fail. So it's just an absolute pleasure and honor
to have you here once again, David. Thank you for joining us.
Avocado: Thank you, Lucien Gauthier. I really, really am excited to get into
the nuances of this month's interview. Let's dive right into it.
Lucien: Okay. We've [00:00:53] got some great questions from the members.
The first one begins with some sleep Circadian rhythm problems.
Avocado: Vitamin D3 for sure, because if you are working the night shift and
you are not getting sunlight, or at least if you are not even seeing
sunlight, that can really throw you off. So that's one thing I'd
recommend strongly, vitamin D3. The amounts that have been
thrown about by the RDA are about 400 IUs a day. The numbers
[00:01:34] that have been thrown around by Dr. Mercola and
Dr. Gabriel Cousens are between 5,000 and 10,000 IUs per day. It's
probably one of the least regarded supplements out there in terms of
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its effectiveness, but it's probably one of the most effective things
out there, and in the interview I did with Mercola recently he
mentioned that vitamin D3 turns on more genes than any vitamin or
substance ever found. And so it helps to activate dormant aspects of
our genetic code, it helps us to turn off cancer genes and all kinds of
things. So that's one of them.
Avocado: Exactly. And very interesting the way you worded that, because
Circadian rhythms have to do with the completion of the circuit
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between the Earth and the heavens. And if that is disturbed in any
way – let's say for example if we are in a building. Even if we are
grounded but we are in a building [glitch in tape] then it's going to be
disturbed. And let's say it's the other way around. [00:04:12] Let's
say we are wearing shoes. That's also creating a disconnection from
that complete circuit. So if we imagine the electricity [unintelligible
word] out of the Earth, it must actually flow through our feet,
through us into the heavens in order to help generate the hormones
and neurotransmitters.
Now that's actually very close to what [Rudolf] Steiner said, which I
find unbelievably interesting. That is very close to exactly what
Steiner said causes proper hormone production and mineralization is
completing that circuit like that.
Avocado: Always something good to use in your mouth, if it's too acrid for
you, you can dilute it in coconut real easy, real fun to play around
with. A lot of people have been contacting me recently with HPV
and coconut oil right on the cervix, directly on every day, is a pretty
darn incredible little thing to know about. Anyway, if you are
dealing with a tooth problem you have got to make sure that that
tooth is as free from bacteria as possible. But not your mouth free of
bacteria; just that tooth. And what I mean [00:05:32] by that is, give
it a little extra care to make sure it's flossed, rub some coconut oil
and neem oil around the tooth and zapping is another thing, using
electrical currents to help to lighten the bacterial load and the
potential infection load. Because that has a lot to do with growth and
with helping things grow.
I have been noticing – I have been in Noniland here for the last week
and I have been noticing that when young plants are very, very
hindered by parasites – and in the case we have here we have aphids
and ants that can stunt the growth – that a huge amount of energy
will be put out by the plants to try to throw that thing off. If we just
go then go through and remove the parasite – in this case the aphids
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and the ants – the plant just naturally grows. So I have a feeling that
that is what goes on when we are [00:06:17] trying to heal an injury,
when we are trying to heal a tooth, something like that, is that if we
can lower the battle that is going on with the immune system right
there we can free up a lot of energy for rejuvenative and growth.
Avocado: Great question. That would work, and the tool that you use is a –
what is the name of it? There is a term for it. It's called, it's like a
voltmeter. That's what it's called. It's called a voltmeter, and you can
get one at Radio Shack. And what you can do is you take one side of
[unintelligible word(s)] and you connect it to the ground. So that's
your reference is your ground, and then you connect at the other to
you. Okay? So that will give you the amount of potential that you are
being hit with.
And we actually did a video like that, you and I, Lou, in my room.
Do you remember that?
Lucien: Yeah. And I remember that you were standing next to your
computer, your stereo, you had a couple of other devices and the
voltage if I remember correctly was hanging around 7 to 8 volts,
[00:08:07] and then when you touched the actual bed pad it would
drop to 1.2 to around 1.5.
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Lucien: They can find the video online on TheBestDayEver.com and also on
YouTube. If you guys go to the YouTube video – and I can't
remember which YouTube account it is, but if you Google it on
YouTube you'll find it. It's on YouTube.
Lucien: It's really fascinating because you can actually see the voltage being
registered on the voltage meter, and that's the voltage that is actually
coursing through [00:08:49] your body. Like at that time, when you
are standing next to those devices, that is the actual voltage going
through every cell of your body. Is that correct?
Avocado: That's correct. And it's an eye-opener. And you can get a really
advanced voltmeter for like $40 at Radio Shack that has all kinds of
things on it, bells and whistles, but when you start playing around
with that stuff and you see how much voltage is right next to your
head when you are sleeping at night or right next to your stereo, it's
pretty shocking. And then when you see what grounding technology
can do for you, it's real. It's like then all of a sudden you get it.
And I have noticed that that is actually what it takes for some people
to get it. They actually have to see that happening before they go,
[00:09:31] "Oh, okay. This is real." I got a lot of feedback like that
from that recording that we did, Lou, is that people told me they
didn't really understand it or think it was working until they saw that
video. Then they realized how it all worked.
Lucien: And that was really fantastic, because this winter when we went to
my parents' house, myself and Len, he brought my father a pair of
the grounding sheets for him and his wife. And my father is a
complete skeptic. I mean he doesn't buy anything related to any of
this health stuff that we are doing. But the one thing that completely
converted him was the sheets, because he immediately started
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Lucien: So all these lawyers doing grounding pads. But it is amazing when
you see the voltage going through your body and then you actually
touch the sheets. You see the voltage being out of your body and
through that third prong in the wall and you know that it is
dissipating out of your body and you are not actually suffering from
that EMF. And what shocked me was just the alarm clock by your
head was kicking off 2 to 3 volts.
Avocado: And this is 8 hours [00:10:59] a day, and then the whole bed itself is
like a static electricity pit. You know, all that electricity, all those
wires and stuff on there. So then we've got this voltage hitting that
static electricity and we're sitting there bathing in that with wool
which is like also picking up static electricity and insulating the
whole thing. It's just, it's unbelievable the normal sleeping
arrangement in the Western world, and then it makes sense all of a
sudden of why everybody has insomnia. I had no idea, Lou, what a
big problem insomnia was until I became a professional in the health
field, and it's like everybody has insomnia.
Lucien: It's amazing. And then the "cure" for that is to wake up and have
coffee, but of course you are tired when you get up. You only slept a
little bit if at all and then you have got to compensate by drinking
coffee and then you get into this horrible cycle.
irradiating food? And what does irradiating food do to it? Are there
some special containers that would protect food from X-ray machine
damage?
Avocado: Okay. Yes. There are containers that will protect substances that are
in your luggage or your backpack or computer bag when it goes
through the X-ray machine at the airport, so that's working on X-
rays. X-rays, it's a very high amount of radiation. It's like a
microwave. And actually whenever you are around those machines
at an airport, stay clear away from them as best as you can, because
they are emitting – like a microwave oven – a huge amount of EMF,
like unbelievable. And they say, "Oh, they are shielded." They are
definitely [00:12:39] not shielded enough, you know, to stand right
next to when you are running things through that machine. I really
feel for those people who are working there, I can tell you that.
Is there anything that can be done about it? Well, we have got to
stop this whole food irradiation thing. It's really a plague. When I
really got into researching it, listen to this: they actually have like a
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conveyer belt and they are running the food or whatever substances
[00:14:23] right over this conveyer belt and the cesium block is right
underneath that conveyer belt and it is exposing all these things that
are passing along and it's sitting, that cesium block is raised up out
of a pool of water. Now at the end of the work day this cesium block
goes back into the pool of water and the pool of water is its
containment vessel. There are no regulations about the way that that
water is disposed of, so that water is sitting inside of a radioactive
chamber in order to contain the neutron bombardment that is coming
out of the radioactive cesium when the device is not in use. And then
they just dump that water right down the drain. So they are dumping
radioactive water coming out of these facilities where they are doing
irradiation right into the environment.
And this is the kind [00:15:15] of stuff that we are dealing with on
every level. It's like the most unconscious of the unconscious, the
most dangerous thing possible. And you know, why is it that we
have to deal with this? Well, it's because the peril must be high for
us to pay attention. That's kind of how I look at it. The peril must be
so extraordinarily high we just are not [sic; not not] going to be
paying attention. And for whatever reason, the University, the world,
God, the Creation, whatever wants us to really start paying attention
to everything that we are doing, all our actions, and sort out our
behavior. And this food irradiation thing is just one of those things
on that list that we have really got to be watching out for.
Lucien: So two things come mind. One is when they are dumping the—
Well, let's start with the first thing. Where did the idea to irradiate
food [00:16:02] come from? What is the reason behind irradiating
food? Why are we doing it?
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Lucien: And then the next question would be, when that water is dumped
down into the, you know, the municipal water I'm assuming, there is
no way to actually clean that [00:16:52] up just through a regular
filtering process. Is there?
Avocado: Right. There is no way. What you are dealing with there is heavy
water deuterium, and deuterium will naturally works its way and
percolate back into the environment and the accumulation according
to the Russian research on deuterium is that the more of that heavy
water that you accumulate the shorter is your life – that that seems to
be directly correlated.
And by the way, their solution to that was alternative days of dry
fasting. So if you are fasting on water, you fast one day on water;
one day dry; one day on water, one day dry; meaning you don’t even
drink or eat anything on the dry day. This is not recommended for
people who are ill of [00:17:33] course or even people who are
dehydrated, but if you are at a stage where you are very, very healthy
and you are very, very hydrated and you are looking into doing some
fasting, which is pretty much recommended by all religious sects
throughout all of history, then dry fasting is something you may
want to begin investigating. It gets the heavy water out.
Dear David, I have a friend who has been on lithium and Abilify
[also known as aripiprazole and Abilify Discmelt] for 10 years and
wants to get off of them. These are antidepressants. [00:18:17] Are
there any suggestions nutritionally for weaning him off of these? He
has been taking 1200 mg of lithium at night as well as 40 mg of
Abilify at night for about 10 years.
Avocado: The second drug named I don't know. I don't know the drug and I
don't the effect. Lithium is kind of happy gas. Lithium is one of the
lightest substances in the periodic table of the elements. It's found in
lots of hot springs waters across the State of California, and I
imagine that is how it was figured out that it has a very strong effect
in making us feel happy, making us feel good. And it was used
traditionally, it was bottled. Lithium water was bottled and then
given to people who were either mentally disturbed or couldn't calm
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So those are some ideas. I really feel that Gabriel is probably correct
in that when somebody has been on lithium for a very long period of
time they can get on natural lithium water or natural lithium
supplements, which they have at the Tree of Life, treeoflife.nu – you
can go there and find out what they have as a natural alternative, and
you might even want to send this person to the Tree of Life, because
that is what they specialize in there is neurological health [correct
two words?].
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Avocado: Okay. Well migraines in general are caused by very different things.
Sometimes they are caused by chronic neck and TMJ problems,
sometimes they are caused by dehydration, sometimes they are
caused by excessive acidity.
Having said that, this is one of the things that I am really into, Lou,
and I think that is one of the reasons why I am successful in this
field, and that is what are you going to do about anyway? You know,
if it's over here or over there, what are you going to do about it
anyway? Well, one of the things you can do is start sleeping
grounded. That can help your hormones [00:22:16] go out of strange
fluctuations. Another thing you can do about it is get those numbers
and get some good consultation on how much DHEA might be
supplemented with in the diet. DHEA is one of the hormones and
DHEA balance may have a lot to do with this situation.
Also, you know this whole thing could be triggered by just stress. A
lot of times people say well, you know, "I couldn't help [00:22:39]
myself. I had to eat this thing on Friday." But what is not being said
is the ritual that happens on Friday. And that is the whole office goes
out for a party. So there may be a three-week ritual that is occurring
– you know, something having to do with work – that we want to
look at.
So you know there are a lot of factors in all this, and if it is hormonal
what are we going to do about it anyway? Get grounded, maybe alter
our DHEA a little bit, maybe alter the fatty acids in our diet a little
bit, maybe alter the fatty acids in our diet a bit. More krill oil is
really good for building progesterone by the way, so that might be
something we want to do, and we may want to get off of all plastics,
which is bringing in the false estrogen, and etcetera. I could go on
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like that.
Lucien: Hello David. I have been transitioning into a raw food diet for over
half a year now. I am happy with progress but I would like to "put a
nail in the coffin" by just going 100% raw. I even went two weeks
completely raw but then crashed. Why is it a "must" for me to go
100% raw right now? Please feel free to use gut-wrenching details.
Also what strategies can be used to avoid crashing.
Avocado: Yeah. I think that's a big assumption. I mean, it obviously is not the
best time to be going 100% raw when we are having like ups and
downs. Right? So it's interesting the way that questions are
constructed you can oftentimes see the issue right in the way the
words are used. I would get rid of all ideas of having to be anything.
I mean raw food has always made me feel the best and I don't eat
cooked food for that reason because I don't want to feel bad, but it
wasn't always that way and things change over time. So you know
you go at your own pace and you develop healthy habits instead of
just trying to jump on one thing to the next thing to the next thing.
Just healthy habits build the ability to actually be raw. The
disciplines stack up into the behaviors which stack up into the
[00:01:28] character. Right? And if there is a breakdown in there
then we are going to be jumping back and forth because our
character has not caught up with our behavior or something like that.
Lucien: And it's really interesting, because going to these events you meet
people that are at all different levels and I can say you know working
in this field now you feel like you should be 100% raw, so for
example I'm doing these interviews with you, who is 100% raw, and
I can even see in my own mind like there is like a little bit of a push
saying, you know, "You should be 100% raw. You need to be 100%
raw," and I had to overcome that a little bit in that being comfortable
with where I was and where I was heading and not trying to push
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Avocado: That is well said. That is well said, because now you are like, you
are very comfortable with where you are, and so it's just – it's
become a lot more fun. Hasn't it? I mean, isn't it a lot more fun? And
that's really where we have got to be. We have got to be paying
attention to where the fun is. Now if the fun means going out and
drinking 30 beers on a Friday night and then having to deal with that,
you know, then we are really, really needing to work on developing
more healthy habits than that to have fun. But you know, just putting
that out there.
Lucien: Yeah. There are a lot of different approaches, and some people do
the "I don't want to be in pain approach" [00:03:02] and some people
have the "I want to be in pleasure approach," and I have heard you
kind of come at it from both angles. Like you just were saying
earlier, you don't eat cooked food because you don't want to feel bad,
but then also being aware that you have to go where the fun is. So
it's a nice kind of balance.
Avocado: Yeah, it's a nice balance. I mean, you know what I realized is that
cooked food is not fun. There was nothing fun about it. That you
know – see that develops. That could never have been there on day
one. It had to develop over [00:03:30] many years to realize, you
know, this is not fun. This is definitely not my idea of fun. I don't
want to be you know hurting, in pain, that kind of stuff.
Now, not to say that cooked food causes that in everybody, but I
became so sensitive to it that it did cause that in me, so I had to say
no, I can't do this.
Lucien: Okay. So hopefully he takes it easy and there are a lot of great
resources here on the site how to ease you way into it, and you
know, this is a no-pressure website. It's TheBestDayEver.com, not
The100%RawFood.com. It is what is best for you, and you try to
avail yourself of all the incredible resources that we have here. So I
am sure he will find his footing.
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Dear David, What will be the fastest way to [00:04:08] detox from
THC? I know THC is stored in the fat cells. What would be a good
protocol for detoxifying or masking for a test via a urine sample?
This is a [unintelligible phrase] apparently.
Avocado: Oh God. It's been about 21 years since I have looked into how to
beat a drug test on THC. I think goldenseal is what is recommended
by the way. Goldenseal is one of the great herbs of the world. We
love goldenseal. And that's a long time ago. I mean that's 21 years
ago. I would have to actually get online and check that. And if you
are listening right now and plan on using goldenseal to pass any drug
test, please do your own research first.
How do you get THC out of your system? Sweat it out. Sweat it out,
take in the right kinds of oils that drive it out because it's fat-soluble.
So [00:04:57] if you take in really good quality oils, raw foods, like
avocados, olives, olive oil, good organic olive oil, all the different
nuts and seeds that are possible including chia and flax and all the of
course amazing things that are available in the nut side – almonds,
cashews, that kind of stuff – then you are kind of using the principle
of chelation by replacement. Replace the old fat with the new. And
when I say fat I am not talking about fat cells. I am just talking about
fat in your body, wherever it is at, we want to make sure that the
THC is dissolved out of it and removed. In order to dissolve it you
need more fat in your diet to draw off that THC out of your system,
and then you can eliminate it. So that's a strategy.
They say the THC lasts in your system for six months. At least that's
the propaganda I got. I don't [00:05:48] know if it does or not. I
mean, who knows? It's one of these things where there are a lot of
blanket statements out there but nobody is really sure what the real
truth is.
Avocado: There is a story of an old centenarian who put in rock dust powders
into whiskey and then would drink it like that. And the reason why
he got into doing that is because he started to feed his cattle rock
dust powders and they became beautiful animals. And he ended up
to live like 100 or 110, somewhere in that range, and it was a very
interesting [00:06:39] illustrative example of the power of minerals.
Now the thing is, that is not going to work for everybody, and that is
a very crude approach. We have got much better technology now.
We get the idea that hey, minerals are associated with longevity, but
everybody has the gut of a cow or like this guy. I mean, he was an
old whiskey drinker. He probably has a lot of calluses in that gut. He
wasn't absorbing much, but what he did he absorbed with the alcohol
some of the alcohol-soluble minerals and was able to actually live
quite a long time as a result of that.
Lucien: All right. Cool. And his follow-up question is, would the sulfur
found around the volcanoes – he lives in Costa Rica – be a good
source for this? And he wants to know if this is different than MSM
in terms of mineralization.
Avocado: I would not recommend just [00:07:25] eating sulfur out of the Earth.
You know, there is a lot of mercury in sulfur – mercury sulfide
actually. Cinnabar is a very common mercury-containing ore. It's not
really an ore. It's easy to crumble up, and this is toxic. It is one of the
most toxic things you can put in your body. Sulfur will be attached
to lots of strange minerals and things that you probably don't want in
your body when you dig it up out of the Earth or near a volcano, so I
wouldn't really recommend playing around with sulfur unless you
are a metallurgist and you really know what you are doing at that
level.
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Avocado: I might add to that, that more specifically answers his question, is he
should be drinking a little bit of ocean water or Ocean's Alive marine
phytoplankton if he really wants to get those soluble minerals – or
take a little bit of ocean water and mix that in the whiskey and do it
that way and create a little homeopathic tincture of ocean water for
your alcohol – which is a really good idea to me, in my mind. I was
just recently studying René Quinton's stuff, how he had used ocean
water to complete suffuse a dog, a stray dog, and completely suffuse
the entire bloodstream of that dog with ocean water and was able to
do that successfully, curing the dog of its ills. The dog was literally
walking around with no blood cells. [00:09:13] It was 100% being
pumped by ocean water.
Nobody of course ever wants to suffer with this, and those of us who
have dealt with loved ones who have suffered from this know that
there is a certain karmic aspect of it, and that is what I want to bring
here. And that is we must be paying attention. We can't just be off in
left field trashing stuff, thinking that the landfill can hold it all or
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Lucien: All right. That's a fantastic solution to a really tough problem. And
growing up in Boston, you know I grew up with Boston Harbor. It
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was the dirtiest harbor ever. I mean, it was so bad, and the stuff that
they were putting into that harbor, you just couldn't believe that it
was allowed. You know, and in the western part of the state they had
all those tanneries and all the chemicals that they used in the
[00:13:40] tanneries. And you know a lot of my friends – like you
say, you have a lot of friends whose moms are suffering from
Alzheimer's. I mean, my generation, their parents now are just all
these amazing bizarre, bizarre brain – you know, they call it
Alzheimer's, which seems to be a really kind of broad category for a
whole bunch of cognitive disorders as you get older, but it's pretty
severe. And like you say, it's troubling.
Avocado: Yeah, it is. It's an epidemic. It really is. And you know I look at it
from all aspects. There is of course a lot we can do to stave it off
with proper nutrition, but also appropriate lifestyle, environmental
green lifestyle and supporting environmental green behavior so we
are not hit by the karmic wave that our civilization is being hit with.
One more thing I want to say about that is, I assume [00:14:31] that
everybody realizes that everybody realizes that there is a connection
between Alzheimer's and pesticides, Alzheimer's and hormone
replacement therapy, Alzheimer's and injecting hormones into
animals, you know, and all the other things that are going on. So we
definitely want to eat pure and organic foods in order you know to
just be at a baseline stage where we are not being exposed to very
dangerous chemicals.
Lucien: Dear David, I have been getting heart palpitations recently. It started
after I had been eating what I think was an excessive amount of nuts
– especially cashew nuts. I have since stopped eating nuts but I still
suffer from palpitations after eating certain food. For example
chickpeas, beans and pulses. My diet is 70% raw. What can I do to
alleviate this problem? Thanks for your advice.
Avocado: That sounds like a food allergy. [00:15:18] I would suspect that is a
food allergy. Nuts are very allergenic. Beans and pulses are also
very allergenic, especially if somebody is a blood type O. Because
blood type A's can handle nuts and seeds better, especially grains
and pulses. Blood type A's can handle them better. Blood type O's
cannot handle them, and it's at the blood level. It's a blood level
allergic reaction, so that would explain some of what this person is
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And then checking out – there is a book that was published, a great
book on blood type. I believe it was called The Answer is in Your
Blood Type. I really want to review that book. It is deep-buried in a
box somewhere. It's part of my library and I'm going to be getting it
out and rereading it soon. It's not the D'Adamo book [on blood type].
It's actually a whole 'nother book about the all the research that has
been done on blood type and it is very scientific and it's really good.
There is no agenda. You know, with the blood type it's like an
agenda, "We're selling you this diet," but this book is more written
from an informational perspective and can be very helpful [00:16:44]
to folks who are wondering about more information in regards to
blood type and diet.
Lucien: And that could be particularly helpful maybe for someone who is
trying to raw, and they hit these certain pitfalls when they look at
what other people are doing in terms of a raw food diet and then they
try do [it] they come up against these sort of invisible barriers and
aren't sure what is going on. Do you feel a lot of this has to do with
not only blood typing? I mean there are a few categories. One is
blood typing, and the other [00:17:11] we talked about in the last
interview was the type of – what you burn for your calories: fats,
proteins or sugars.
Avocado: Yes. It could be that too. That's a big factor. Let's say we only have a
certain amount of tolerance for fat. We can't have more than a
certain amount. If we go beyond that amount then our body will
react in a number of ways. One is our energy will go down, but we
can have an allergic reaction by OD'ing [overdosing] in categories or
genres of food like fat or protein or carbohydrates, depending
though, because that changes for each person.
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Lucien: Great piece of advice. You know I had not heard that before, so that
is a great piece of information to be aware of.
Hi Avo. I know from some of your past interviews you said that you
do animal products like bee pollen, honey and deer antler. What is
your take on the Surthrival Colostrum?
Avocado: I have eaten colostrum before. I don't agree with dairy products. I am
allergic to them, but I had literally this guy in Iceland, the only
biodynamic farmer in the whole nation of Iceland, we went to his
farm and we were seeing [00:19:41] all their cows. And it just hit
me, I said you know, "Do you have any colostrum?" Now it took a
while to figure out what the Icelandic translation of colostrum is, and
for those of us who do not even know what the English translation
is, what the English translation of colostrum is, it's the hind-heavy
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Certainly if you live on a farm you will find out pretty quickly that
some of the cows produce a lot more than others. It is not equal of
every cow. Some cows produce very little of it. But that thick, heavy
hind milk carries a lot more immune system information in the form
of transfer factors, as Dr. Lawrence discovered almost 50 years ago,
60 years ago. There is where the immunological information is in;
it's in that heavy hind milk, and if you strip [00:20:31] that hind milk
completely down of all protein – basically run it through a very, very
small sieve so none of the large biological components of that milk
can actually make it through and the only thing that bleeds through is
a little bit of the liquid – that liquid will have pure immunological
information in it.
For example spring water pouring forth from the Earth in Schneiple
Yokel [spelling?] Glacier, near Schneiple [00:21:47] Yokel Glacier
in Iceland, that thing is just pouring out of the Earth all day and all
night, that water is worth more than any water probably in the whole
world. It's just pouring out there for free. There is such discrepancies
when you get right to the core of the matter in terms of value and the
value discrepancy.
Anyway, if you can get that kind of colostrum you are really happy
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Lucien: That's really amazing. I just want to clarify that when we are talking
about colostrum we are talking about raw colostrum. I am assuming
that once it is cooked or heated or pasteurized that it would become a
[00:23:21] lot less effective.
Lucien: Dear David, Can you enlighten me about cleansing please? I know
that colonics are good, but the more I research the more things I find.
Recently I have come across Gall Bladder Liver Cleanse by Andreas
Moritz. Do you like his protocol or is there anything else that you
would recommend? I think that Moritz's protocol was originated by
Hulda Clark. What do you think of her?
Avocado: Good question. I mean, the last part of that question was really an
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excellent one, which is, you know, does this stuff work? Is it a waste
[00:00:44] of time? Should we do it? Should we not? What do you
think?
The idea with the gall bladder, liver and kidney flush is to get some
of that heavy amounts of oil moving through with lemon juice to
stimulate the gall bladder to squeeze and to remove some of the
stones or some of the resin that has been left over in the gall bladder
from the liver processing very toxic substances sometimes for
people's whole lives. So the liver, as it is processing all this junk –
the leftovers of plastics and God knows what else – it leaves a little
resin behind, and that sits in the gall bladder. And if those begin to
build up we call them gallstones. Now generally that substance,
whatever [00:02:26] it starts out as – let's say it's a plastic or
something, or it could just be a natural byproduct of metabolism – as
it builds up what is going to happen there is the calcification will
occur around that central core crystal of whatever the substance will
have [in the] gallstones.
Lucien: Yeah. And we just went through the DVDs that are going to be
available next week and they did an entire presentation [00:03:11] on
a liver flush, and that presentation is complete with slides, a step-by-
step walkthrough, also pictures of what to expect to come out, and a
lot of great little tidbits of information on how to really connect with
your liver. And I think for me it was really an eye-opener
understanding the organ – the liver – as being really one of the most
essential organs. I mean we talk a lot about the digestive system, but
I mean in reality the liver is probably one of our most important
organs for us in today's world, because we have so many toxins in
our diet. The liver has to deal with basically everything that we put
in our mouth eventually makes it way through our liver.
Avocado: The ratio has changed a little bit. Kind of interesting. It used to be
like in Chinese medicine the focus was on the kidneys. Certainly in
conventional theories [00:04:00] of medicine it's all about the heart
and heart health; but really in our toxic world, as you referenced Lou
– and I think you are right on about it – now we have got to focus on
the liver. It is definitely an important place to look, definitely the
important types of grouping of cleanses to be done there, and let me
just outline a few other liver cleanses that can be done.
Lucien: And it is really interesting that you mention lemons, because at the
LongevityNOW Experience I think you said something like women
should have [00:05:17] 3 lemons a day and men should have slightly
more – I think it was 4 or 5 – and about a couple of weeks ago after I
came back from the event I started doing a lot of juicing because I
got a juicer, and I just have been pounding the lemons. My body has
been craving minimum 4 lemons a day, so for at least a month I have
doing minimum 4 lemons a day, sometimes upwards to 8, and it's
just been an amazing experience how clean I feel. And I'm not sure
exactly what is happening or why it is happening, but my body just
craved it and demanded it ever since you mentioned it, and I felt
lighter and cleaner. It's just a feeling I have.
Avocado: Yeah. I think that's the liver cleansing. A guy came to see me in
New York once. This was interesting. And he got on raw foods and
superfoods and just you know [00:05:59] started pounding down the
chocolate and everything else, and then he ran into a whole bunch of
problems.
And when I got to really questioning him, I did not really realize
this, but he had lost something like 80 lbs. or 100 lbs. in that process
and had never done any parasite cleansing, any liver cleansing, any
kind of fasting, any kind of anything like that. He just kept eating
right through. You know, just went from one [unintelligible word]
eating to a whole 'nother thing. And we have to be careful about that,
because we might hit a brick wall. Because our liver is suddenly
processing one whole series of toxins, then all of a sudden it
switches over to superfoods and raw foods and then all of a sudden
we flush out 100 lbs. of material. That's a lot to deal with all of a
sudden.
Lucien: And that is what you would call [00:06:45] like a healing crisis,
right? Sometimes you just have so much in your bloodstream that it's
hard to take.
Avocado: Yeah. That's why you have go to go at a pace that is reasonable. And
we also have to be careful that – because then people say, "Oh no,
no, no, the way is not through food, the way is through cleansing,"
because people in that boat generally all of a sudden and then they
start cleansing all the time and then suddenly they are cleansing
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gurus for like two or three years until they can't cleanse themselves
anymore. Then they go back to the diet that they were doing before
the raw foods, whatever it looked like.
But it's kind of interesting. I see that evolution all the time. Every
three years the person who has suddenly jumped into raw food
suddenly like a cleansing guru for like three years, [00:07:27] then
they go back to you know the standard raw food and a more
integrated approach. The whole cycle takes about 5 years. You
know, so that's kind of a fascinating objective view as best as I can
[see] about how the industry develops with all the raw food people
that are out there these days.
Lucien: And did you go sort of through the same kind of cycles where you
did tons of cleansing and then you did tons of this and then tons of
that and then you kind of now fine-tuned it to where you need to be?
Avocado: Well, yes, I did. I started out actually with the idea of fasting and
cleansing first. A lot of people start that way too. So I got deep into
that – which I'm glad I did, because in that process I was going raw
and so I found out the difference between okay, this is actually like a
maintenance diet and this is a cleansing diet. Right? [00:08:20] You
find out like the living food diet that Ann Wigmore taught is not a
maintenance diet; it's a cleansing diet. You have to discover those
things – sometimes through trial and error, but if you are a
BestDayEver member generally you get the skinny on these things
before you run yourself into recreating the wheel.
Lucien: Okay. Cool. And just for those people listening, if you purchase the
[00:09:11] webcast from the last LongevityNOW Experience you
can find the liver cleanse on the track labeled Dr. Stew and Kim Sol
at DVD 2B, and then if you purchase the DVD you will find Dr.
Stew and Kim Sol I believe on DVD 2 you will find the entire
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presentation along with David Wolfe and Len Foley on that same
DVD. But that is a really fantastic track to watch, and I have
watched that at least 7 times now, and the liver packs and everything
that they talk about is really amazing.
Avocado: Oh. There is a great place out West. Ah. I was going to see if I can
cough up the name of that. It is something Springs, Rejuvenative
Springs. Google that one, Rejuvenative Springs. They are out in the
western part of the GTA, Greater Toronto Area. There is a whole
bunch going on with super sprouts, and now known as Toronto
sprouts. You can go there at TorontoSprouts.com and we are actually
going to be doing an event there April 10th in Toronto, and if you
come to that event we can network you into an entire community of
folks who are not only into the getting the best herbs ever but also –
and there will be the best herbs ever at the event, but also the spring
water teams that are going out and getting spring water all over
Ontario area there and they will be at the event and [00:10:47]
actually will be serving fresh spring water that day that I am going to
be getting myself at one of my favorite springs.
Lucien: And it was interesting that this question came up, because just before
the interview I was messing around on TheBestDayEver chat talking
with people and someone mentioned a website called Kalyx.com
where they are selling like massive amounts of bulk herbs, and I just
clicked on their [00:11:35] web page here. They are selling a kilo of
cordyceps for 60 bucks, but you can buy upwards to like $5,000
worth of cordyceps in these huge drums. And I wondered if you ever
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I have used Mountain Rose Herbs quite a bit. I think that is a great
and reputable company. That's a fun one. And if you want to stay
local in Canada, you might want to even start your own herb garden
up going over to Richters [00:12:22] Herbs in the GTA. Just Google
that, Richters Herbs, and they will sell you all kinds of little starts of
ginseng and all kinds of other goodies that you can grow at home.
Lucien: Okay, cool. Like you say, there are a lot of companies coming out. It
seems because the raw food, superfood and now the superherb
revolution is here and there is actually a huge market for it. Like you
say, I am concerned as well about the quality control issues,
especially when it comes to buying in bulk, because you are seeing
everyone is jumping on the bandwagon basically. Everyone wants
in, and it's this whole market that is available to people, and how do
you find out which products are good, which products are not good,
and I guess we just have to do our due diligence. [00:13:08] I guess
that's why we have the websites, because I imagine you get hit with
offers all the time to try people's products out.
Lucien: Hi Dave, Last weekend a friend and I went and collected spring
water. We were told that the place we collected it from had higher
ormus content than another possible place we could have gone. My
question is: how does one measure ormus content? Is there
something like a TDS meter that actually measures it or some other
device/way to know? Thanks.
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Avocado: Well, hopefully somebody will invent a device that is as easy and
simple as a TDS meter. That would be a real cool thing. I suspect
that ormus is too ephemeral at this point in terms of how we
understand it and in terms of how we identify it as matter to be I
guess measured by some simple device. Now I can tell you ways
you can get an idea or a ballpark about how much ormus is in the
water. I'm thinking [00:14:28] of when I trapped a bunch of water up
at Enota, Georgia and it broke now what I found out was not 5 of 40
glass bottles but 7 of 40 Miron glass bottles were literally
disintegrated by the water. The ormus water was so rich that it
actually just broke the silica bonds apart of the glass.
Now I have done that at my own house on my own spring with even
more intense trapping, but the ormus is not as high in the aquifer as
it is there in the North Georgia Mountains, and when you get to that
place in the North Georgia Mountains – Enota, Georgia – you get an
idea why. I mean, it is one of the most evolved, perfect ecosystems
left in the world probably, and therefore it is an aquifer that has been
activated for tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of
years, and it's almost to a state of perfection [00:15:23], that water,
and that is so loaded you can't even contain it in glass.
When you get that kind of discrepancy of like one product, like
okay, no, this isn't going to break through the glass and the other
product disintegrates glass, then you have a ballpark crude angle on
how to determine how much ormus is present.
Lucien: All right. Interesting. So I'm sure in a couple of years we will have
an ormus meter. That will be cool.
Avocado: I would bring some pretty strong herbs with me, like I did when I
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You could also bring a lot of super green foods with you like
spirulina, chlorella, bluegreen algae, marine phytoplankton, things
like that that you can add to coconut water to make like an instant
smoothie with goodies that you don't have to be procuring from the
local area, [00:17:05] and that means you can avoid vegetables to
some degree. Because vegetables, generally when I'm traveling
around Mexico, Peru, even Europe, I don't really even buy
vegetables – or if I do they will be root vegetables. I just generally
eat wild green plants from an environment nearby that I know is
clean rather than buy the stuff that is in the stores. That's just where I
have come to, and that is something to consider if you want to
completely avoid all the stuff that could be on the vegetables –
which could be e. coli, salmonella. Mexico, you know, we knew
never to order a salad when we were kids. You always would end up
with Montezuma's Revenge if you did that so we never did that, and
it worked.
What else would I do? I would bring some herbal tinctures, alcohol
tinctures are easy to keep, easy to use, easy availability as [00:17:59]
well.
Avocado: Sure. There is so much you can do. I mean, getting your body into
shape is a real good idea. I'm doing that right now, because in 48
hours I'm headed to New Zealand to do three or four days of
initiations with the Maoris down there and then some events in
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Auckland, and the three-week tour across Australia, then right into
Bali for a week, then to Hawaii. It's going to be a test to body, mind
and soul for sure. So I've been really working my body, a lot of
yoga, a lot of meditation and getting myself really into shape with a
lot of hydration. That's another really good prep to do, and
[00:18:52] a lot of bowel cleansing as well, so you just kind of clean
yourself out and get yourself prepared mentally, body, mind and
soul.
Avocado: There are many different types of mucunas out there. Mucuna is
actually from the Shipibo term mucunan [spelling?], which is
interesting. Mucuna has a very long history in Amazonia and Central
America as well as in India and they appear to be very closely
identical plants in both places with thousands of years of history. It
is a very unusual circumstance in that regard. Mucuna has a little bit
of a thin shell around it that you can kind of peel off, so I kind of
like will grate one side and then peel off that little outer shell and
you can eat it just like that. It's perfect edible, no toxic side effects
ever reported in the literature ever, which is shocking for a legume. I
mean you know with all the peanut allergies and stuff that [00:19:55]
is out there you would think that there would be something about a
legume like that that would be problematic, and there doesn't appear
to be anything.
Now the mucuna can also be extracted, you could grate it down and
then extract it using oils – coconut oil or cacao butter or any kind of
good solvent. Even olive oil is good. And you can draw it off by
creating, by heating up the oil and putting the mucuna in there. And
you don't boil it or you know heat it up that much, but you just stir it
around for an hour, and that is what they used to do in Ayurveda;
they would boil it and drink it in milk, and the reason why you
would boil and drink things in milk is because there are some fat-
soluble substances that you are trying to liberate out of the material
that you are starting with – in this case mucuna. And because that is
traditional [00:20:40] then we probably suspect [sic; suspect that
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You could then take that material, you could put it into chocolate
bars, you could take the remaining cacao butter/coconut oil mixture,
whatever, put it into drinks, smoothies, that kind of stuff. And we
did that recently at my house and we kept the mucuna around for
quite a bit of time and it was pretty interesting the way that it was
synergizing with ashwagandha, which is what you know
traditionally it has been used with, and both the mucuna and
ashwagandha were grown here at my house, so we got to experience
that firsthand. It was really fascinating.
Lucien: And that is a drink that you typically do quite often, if I am not
mistaken – you do the ashwagandha, you do the mucuna [00:21:28]
and definitely the Shilajit. And what is some of the stuff that you
throw in there? Usually tribulus? What is kind of like one of those
super drinks that you would do for like your morning chocolate drink
or something?
Lucien: It seems like those herbs in particular – the chaga and the shilajit and
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the ashwagandha and the mucuna – they like a hardiness to them that
kind of gets [00:23:04] you through the day for a long period of
time.
Avocado: Right. The energy content and the overall manna and prana in those
substances is outrageous. And once we get to a point where we feel
our caloric needs and what those caloric needs really are and we
know that the rest of it you know can just be really fun stuff to play
with, then we can really get into that state where we can really feel
what these things are doing for us, we could feel exactly what the
right amount is, we can tune in onto the power of what we are
dealing with. We don't need to eat as much to do that. One drink can
cover us for the whole day.
Now that makes sense from a Steiner's perspective, and Steiner was
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of the belief that there are forces that must come through into us
from the Earth that help us mineralize and that actually give our
immune system some intelligence and knowledge about what's
foreign and what's domestic. This is interesting. In order for our
body to understand what is foreign and what is domestic there
[00:02:09] must be a connection to other organisms, namely the
walking barefoot, that that actually increases our own individual
intelligence. That is a very interesting insight that I drew out of
Steiner's material.
Now also the mushrooms [00:02:27] and the garlic and the echinacea
and the great immune herbs of the world – astragalus, schizandra
berry, the beta-glucans-carrying food substances and herbal
substances. All of those things are basically carriers of intelligence.
Lucien: And that brings up some very interesting points related to healing
because if you go to a conventional hospital there is no natural
substances there to give you that intelligence. Everything has been
synthesized into a pharmaceutical drug or some kind of processed
refined material to treat that condition. So when we look at it from
that angle it seems [00:05:02] like that type of medicine will never
actually heal our fundamental problems.
Lucien: There are a lot of very interesting avenues to take that. And
autoimmune conditions are, like you say, they are very difficult to
deal with because there is definitely a conflict going on and it seems
in nature you have a lot of harmony going on and when you bring
that harmony in it is a great way to resolve that conflict.
Lucien: Okay. Great. We'll do a couple more questions here and then we are
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I don't really have more to say about it than that. That is about the
extent of my knowledge with nattokinase.
Lucien: Hi Dave. I have a family member with epilepsy. The doctors have
him on a very high level of medicine to control the seizures but he
continues to have them. What superfoods, diet advice or any other
advice would you give to someone with epilepsy? Thank you.
Avocado: Anyone who has studied the subject of epilepsy for a period of time
realizes that there are different kinds of epilepsies, and I have heard
epilepsy is caused by parasites. I think there is some truth to that.
Epilepsy can be neurological [00:08:24] disorders that are metabolic
in nature. There is some truth to that. Epilepsy can be triggered by
certain light patterns and flickering patterns that confuse the brain
and suddenly cause an epileptic fit. There is also truth to that.
I wish I knew more. This is an area that I would really like to study
more, and it is very deep. I mean I really need to burrow into it, and I
will one day because it is such an important subject matter and does
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come up regularly.
Avocado: Well sure, of course. I mean, [00:10:03] we put all those references
into the LongevityNOW Program, and they are references to the
medical research and literature that is out there in regards to
calcification being part and parcel to every aging condition. So we
know for example a hundred years – it's actually 150 years of
research – on drinking well water has strongly implicated well water
in causing arthritis. Well why is that? It's because of the calcium in
the water. "Well, I thought we were supposed to be taking calcium."
Well, as most listeners are aware now, no, we are not supposed to be
taking calcium, and actually the calcium supplement is well water
without any water in it. It's just the sediment. That's how bad it is. I
don't know how more to get that across to anybody other than to
show them for example the literature on nanobacteria, start tracking
them into that [00:10:56] literature.
The latest find on that by the way, Scientific American had an article
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Now they did mention that they know for sure that this calcium is
eating [unintelligible word; protein?]. They know that for a fact. But
it's not alive, and therefore you know the jury is still out. This is a
very good example of how constipated our science is. I don't care if
it is alive or dead or what you want to call it; if it is eating protein
and causing us to calcify then we have got to do something about it,
and that is where we are at. Like okay, let's get [unintelligible word].
Do you know what I mean? It's like that is where we are at. We don't
need to argue if it is dead or alive or spend 50 years battling back
and forth. It is obviously eating protein. In my mind it is definitely
alive. It self-replicates, this stuff is causing us a massive amount of
decay and degeneration. Let's just get on with the solution and we
can all go back to if it is dead or alive 100 years from now.
But that was so fun. I just love these articles. It's just, it's hilarious,
the scientific mind. It's like absolutely averse to the idea that
something could live without having DNA in it. I mean, just averse.
Just hates that idea. But whatever.
You know, that took 60 years of toxic living to finally get to that
point. I don't want to do that. I want 60 years of healthy living so I
never get to that point, and that is the point. That is what [00:13:19]
we are trying to say here. You know, stop stacking the odds against
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you; start adding the odds, start stacking the odds in your favor.
Lucien: And I like the point you brought up during the LongevityNOW
Experience and I'm sure you will be talking more about it at the
Longevity Conference, is all the different areas of our life that we
think are maybe benign – like going to get a cup of coffee for
example – well, that coffee is made with tap water. Or getting some
bread. Well, that bread is made with tap water. Any store, any
restaurant that you go to, what they cook with, what they use to
make their drinks, every type of processed food, they are using tap
water. What they are using contains all of these calcium-forming
organisms.
Avocado: Exactly. And it's used to wash the vegetables. It's all over the darn
place. [00:14:06] Now it takes a very long time, because obviously
we are adapted to fight this stuff off. But you know more and more it
is happening. The onslaught is overwhelming. You know, now the
onslaught it so overwhelming that you know we have got kids at 20
years old with cancer and stuff like that.
We are just calling the bluff is really what is happening. We are just
saying, "Um, oh actually we need [unintelligible phrase] obvious and
basic thing here before we can start talking about going to surpassing
the [unintelligible word] limit and developing into Immortals that
can live a thousand years like Aubrey de Grey is out there
promoting. You know, interesting researcher he is, but he is skipping
the whole point just like everybody else, which is we can't do that
while we are calcified. That is the thing we have got [00:14:49] to
pass first.
Lucien: Okay. And now I lied about this being the last question. We have
one more coming out of TheBestDayEver chat live right now, and
that question is,
Here is what I have been able to learn about the thyroid. The thyroid
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Going beyond that, Steiner said that one of the best things you can
do for your thyroid is to get yourself inverted; flip yourself upside
down. Well this can change the blood flow in your thyroid for sure.
He also recommended actually grounding like an ostrich sticks his
head in the ground, that kind of approach – like [00:17:21] literally
have your head touching the ground. And that can help to recharge—
Well, we know why that works now: because it recharges your
whole head with electrons. Your thyroid is the most negatively
charged point in your body, I mean it is the most electron-hungry. It
wants all those free electrons in order to function properly, and
therefore if your neck is close to the ground or even touching the
actual bare Earth you can draw in electrons right to your thyroid.
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Additionally on top of thyroid stuff we can say that there are foods
that are really good for the thyroid. Maca is really good for the
thyroid, Brazil nut, kelp and some other high-iodine seaweeds. Not
dulse. Kelp. We can say that there are foods that are bad for the
thyroid, and one of the big ones of course is the cruciferous family,
which is you know like wild mustards – mostly the wild plants in the
cruciferous family that have very strong what we call goitrogens in
them, which is like thyroid-suppressive substances.
Now if you don't have any thyroid problem or anything like that you
can still eat broccoli, you can still eat cauliflower, it's all cool. Kale,
great. No big deal. But if we have a serious thyroid problem we want
to be careful of things [00:18:56] in the mustard family, especially
really strong things that can have very strong goitrogens in them, and
generally those are strong mustards. Like arugula is one that comes
to mind.
There is another food that I want to mention that is very good for the
thyroid, and that coconut, coconut oil, coconut products in general
are very supportive and speed up the thyroid and help to get
everything going.
Another food that is very toxic to the thyroid: soy. All kinds of soy
products super-toxic, terrible for the thyroid, probably the worst
thing. They figured out in the '50s you feed your animals soy, they
fatten up, they become lethargic, you can sell them for a lot of
money. You feed your animals coconut and coconut products, they
become lean and strong, they are not heavy enough to sell for a lot of
money.
So when [00:19:45] you look at the U.S. population you see nobody
is grounded, you see that everybody is massively deficient in
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Lucien: And we have got the steadfast crew of Truth Calkins and George
Lamoureux. I mean these guys just anchor it down and they keep
presenting some pretty amazing information when it comes to
Chinese herbs, tonic herbs and how to make the best elixirs ever. It's
pretty much the best well-rounded event I have ever seen. We have
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Avocado: It does, and you're right. We've got the usual suspects in George and
Truth and they are dishing out knowledge. It's really – the human
race has waited tens of thousands of years for this moment, because
suddenly here comes the real information – right? – where the
monopolies of control of information have all crumbled to pieces.
Medical monopolies and all that is crumbling, and what bleeds
through is a light, and right in the middle of that spotlight is this
Longevity Conference which is bringing forth finally really where it
is all headed: cross-referenced knowledge that has been worked on
for hundreds of years, thousands of years. We are now getting it all.
[00:22:47] It's outrageous!
Avocado: It is, and it's a lot of fun and you'll meet incredible, like-minded
people. And there are a lot of opportunities that come out of this too
– career opportunities, career [00:23:30] change opportunities, huge
insight from business perspectives as well, as to how you can be
more productive, how you can get the higher economy of efficiency
in your lifestyle, all kinds of stuff like that. And you just pick and
choose what you like.
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