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No.112
06/01/12

Detained for Open Carry in Portland, Maine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfdEbe7e9GE
By YouTube boyscout399 I was detained by Portland PD officer J McDonald on 26MAY2012. He detains me without suspicion of any criminal activity; in violation of Delaware v Prouse. He admits his sole reason for stopping me is my legally carried firearm; in violation of US v DeBerry. He seizes my weapon with no reasonable suspicion that Ive committed a crime; in violation of Terry v Ohio. He demands my ID without reasonable suspicion; in violation of Hiibel v Nevada . Category: Nonprofits & Activism Tags: Maine (City/Town/Village) Uploader Comments:
look boyscout, i understand you were just exercising your constitutional rights, but IMO the cop was just there to make sure you werent a threat and planning to use that thing on someone. it seems reasonable to me for a cop to stop someone who has a pistol on their hip visible out in the open to make sure theyre not up to something dangerous. i think your arrogant undertones throughout the video were unnecessary and honestly made things more complicated then they had to be. saintbeast24 2 hours ago The law disagrees with you. The officer needs to meet a simple requirement in order to stop someone, whether they have a gun or they are jaywalking. The officer needs a reasonable suspicion that you are going to commit a crime. This must be more than a mere hunch and must be based on observable information. boyscout399 in reply to saintbeast24 2 hours ago Get a life, you have nothing better to do then be a dick. You saw some [xxxx] on the internet and decided youd look cool to all the holster sniffers. Instead of creating a good relationship with the police you decided to ruin it and make it worse on everyone. Bottom line, you were a [xxxxxxx] idiot to the cop, but if you ever got shot that cop would still come help. Think about that the next time you decide you wanna be a smartass. turboTime1987 5 hours ago You do not know me. You do not know my motivations or intentions. Your comment shows your extreme ignorance. How would I build a relationship with a city that has no desire to have a positive relationship with legal gun owners. The only recourse left is confrontation when officers overstep the bounds of their authority. I know YOU would not choose to stand up to the police. But I wonder what youd feel about an officer tearing your car apart looking for weed? boyscout399 in reply to turboTime1987 5 hours ago he did just fine the law is the law barstoolguru 10 hours ago judging by some of the comments here, America is being overrun by freedom haters. WRITEINRONPAUL2012 10 hours ago @ Sahmpots - What a douche you are. Do you seriously miss the point? As a nation of laws we should be free to conduct ourselves without interference from authority unless, as OP clearly stated, there is a suspicion of a crime being committed. To release so easily that which so many have given their lives in defense of is disheartening. Ugot2BkddnMe 11 hours ago Awesome! Way to stand up for your rights! Very good job - I hope that officer has learned something. fargley001 12 hours ago I bet you were the kid that tattled on your classmates in grade school, werent you? I fail to see anything wrong with you being stopped. The resolution was pretty simple: Identify yourself, let the officer run your ID quickly to make sure everything is on the up and up, then be on your way. I bet you were disappointed that he didnt do anything that would have resulted in you filing a lawsuit! RadTech77 13 hours ago You fail to see anything wrong with a police officer breaking the law? boyscout399 in reply to RadTech77 13 hours ago The officer clearly violated his Constitutional rights. Youre clearly ignorant of that fact and live in retard land. He detained him, seized his weapon and attempted to coerce information from him. There is a reason our founders put the 4th Amendment into place. Clearly you have no clue what the British did when they ran the US Colonies. Study some history please before you respond and look like an uneducated douchebag. irshchuculain in reply to RadTech77 11 hours ago Apparently people think that you should only exercise one right at a time. If you choose to exercise the 2nd, you should give up the 4th. If you choose to exercise 1

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the 4th, you shouldnt use the 2nd. And if you exercise the 4th, or the 2nd, you shouldnt exercise your 1st by talking back. boyscout399 in reply to irshchuculain (Show the comment) 10 hours ago @boyscout399 well done. MYSELF (and only myself) I would have said less, mostly cause I cant make those quotes. We dont enjoy rights unless we exercise them, which sometimes requires a) knowledge and b) a backbone. Courtesy is the grease that gets it done. cpparks66 13 hours ago What a boss! thesyndk8 13 hours ago Doesnt look like you were detained at all...Just stopped for OCing... NeighborTakesFaces 14 hours ago

That is the definition of detainment, not free to leave. boyscout399 in reply to NeighborTakesFaces 14 hours ago Wow I cant believe they let him go....That was awesome!!!! Lovestorock73 14 hours ago They let him go because the responding supervisor understood that the victim was indeed doing nothing wrong nor was he suspected of doing anything illegally. jspec7m88 in reply to Lovestorock73 13 hours ago What a douche you are. Give them ID, they make sure youre not a fucking felon and thats it. You really showed those cops! Did you brag about this on your gun

forum for being such an informed tough guy? Guess what, you win nothing. Sahmpots 14 hours ago They didnt suspect I was a felon, so no, They cant run my ID. Not my problem. Their problem. boyscout399 in reply to Sahmpots 14 hours ago Sir, I cannot begin to tell you how admirable this video is. Nice job! You have come a long way since your Biddeford encounter. You were cool, calm, and best of all; educated. Ignore the haters. If they were capable of looking beyond the gun issue (which I have no problem with) they would be commending you too. You have some serious guts. Keep up the good work! 655F3d78 15 hours ago

EDITORS NOTE: Here is a good example of the need for the Public to become better educated about the Constitution for the United States and their God-given Rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights. Both parties responded to one another admirably and in honor.

Gun Carry In The USA: Your Right to Self-defense

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