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DangersofRhogaminPregnancy

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ImportantpointaboutRhoGamandthatisthattheantibodiesattackALLRHpositivecells.If mother'sbloodmixeswiththebaby'sblood,theantibodieswillneutralizethebaby'sbloodcells beforethemothercancreateherownantibodiesagainstthebaby.Thedilemnaisthatifthe mother'sandbaby'sblooddoesactuallymixitisequallylikelythattheRhoGamantibodieswill crossoverandattackthebabyitself.Thishappensfrequentlybutisn'tdiscussedbymost doctors.

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TheRhoGamantibodieswillattachtoyourbaby'sbloodcellsandrenderthemincapableof deliveringoxygen.Thishaslongtermconsequencesonbraindevelopment.Mydoctorwas completelyignorantofthisissue.

TheRhoGamantibodiesdonotcrosstheplacenta.Butneitherdobloodcellsfromthebaby whichisexactlywhytheRhoGamisinjected.Inveryrarecircumstances,suchasthemother becominginjured,thebloodofthemotherandbabycanmix.It'saparadox,onlywhenthe antibodiesareneededcantheyharmthebaby.

TheRhoGamantibodiesareputtheretoattackanybaby'sbloodthatcomesacross.Butifthere

ismixingthentheantibodiescangoacrosstheotherwayandtheydoexactlythat.Antibodies diffusemuchmorereadilythroughthebloodstreamthanwholecells.

ImmunologytextbooksstillcorrectlypointoutthatRhoGamshouldbegivenafterchildbirthonly ifthebabyisRH+.Thesearethemothersthatareathighrisk.

HoweverthecompanythatmanufacturesRhoGamlobbiedtohaveit'suseexpandedtoallRH mothersduringandafterpregnancyto'guarantee'thatallhighriskmotherswereprotected.

Doctorstrytorationalizethisbysayingthatevenduringthefirstpregnancybloodcanmixand antibodiescanbeproducedthatwillattackthebaby.Thisalmostneverhappensbecausethe bloodwouldhavetomixtwice,oncetostimulatetheproductionofAbsinthemotherandthe secondtimeforthoseantibodiestodiffusetothebaby.Andregardless,theparadoxcomesinto playbecauseifthemother'santibodiescandiffusetoharmthebaby,thensocantheinjected RhoGamantibodies.Theyarethesameexactantibodies.AskyourdoctorhowyourantiRH antibodiesweremoreharmfulthanothermother'santiRHantibodies(inRhogam).Theywill notcomprehendwhatyouaretalkingabout.

RhoGamafterpregnancychildbirthiswhatcausesthebloodtomixand,whengivenatthis time,RhoGamcanpreventstimulationofthemother'simmunesystem.Thereisnoreasonto giveRhoGamduringpregnancyexcepttoincreaseprofitsforthemanufacturerbecauseRH motherswithRHbabieswillalsogettheinjectioneventhoughtheycouldn'tpossiblyneedit.

EachRhoGaminjectedcontainsbloodserumpooledfromseveraldifferentpersonswiththe antibodies.Themanufacturercannotpossiblyscreenorremoveallvirusesfromit.Butthat'sa separateissue.

YouwouldneedabloodtransfusionfromanRH+persontostimulatetheproductionof antibodiesagainstRHfactor.YouwillnotfindasinglecaseinthescientificliteratureofanRH personwhoseroconvertedafterminimalbloodcontactwithanRH+person.

Theshotdoesworkafterpregnancywhenitcannotpossiblyharmthebaby.ItoffersNO additionalbenefitduringpregnancy.Thesafetyconcernduringpregnancyisreal.Doesitmake

sensetoyoutoinjectantibodiesintothemother'sbloodstreamthataredesignedforthesole purposetoeliminatecellsofthebaby?Therearenumerouscasereportsofbabiesbornanoxic andasphyxiatedbecausetheRHoGamantibodiescrossedtheplacentaduringthegestation period.Thisisnottheonlysafetyconcernwiththeinjection,justthemostobvious.

Ihopethiscomesacrossclearly:thereasonthatitisariskforRHmotherstocarryRH+babiesis thatthemothercouldproduceantibodiestoherownchild.Ifthoseantibodiesareinherblood whilesheispregnantthereisasmallchancethattheywillcomeintocontactwithandharmthe baby.Rhogamduringpregnancyguaranteesthoseantibodieswillbethere.Itdoesnotmatterif themothermadetheantibodiesoriftheywereinjected,thebabyisnowatriskforattackfrom RH+antibodies.Theoriginalpointofsavingthebabyfromantibodyattackhasbeenabrogated bygivingrhogamduringgestation.

RhogamantibodiesagainstthebabyandantibodiesproducedbytheRHmotherareidentical.If thewholepointistopreventtheseantibodiesfromcirculatinginthemotherduringpregnancy, whyonEarthwouldyouinjectthemintothemotherexactlywhensheispregnant.

Theantibodiesareintendedtoprotectthesecondpregnancybypreventingsensitization.If sensitizationweretooccurandthesecondbabywererh+thenyouwouldhaveantibodies circulatinginyourbloodagainstyourownbaby.Thiswouldonlybeaproblemiftheblood mixed.

TheproblemisthatinjectingRhogamduringgestationyouaregettingprotectionforyour secondpregnancyattheexpenseofyourfirst.IfyouputRhogamantibodiesintoyourbody duringyourfirstpregnancyyouareputtingantibodiesagainstyourbabyintoyourbloodstream where,ifbloodmixingdoesoccur,thoseantibodieswillattackyourbaby.Thisisexactlywhat youaretryingtoavoidforthesecondpregnancy.So,inrealityyouareprotectingyoursecond pregnancyfromtheantibodiesbyinjectingthemintoyourselfduringthefirstpregnancy.Ican't stateitanybetterthanthis:ifyouinjectRhogamdurngyourfirstpregnancyyouwillpreventa potentiallyharmfulsituationforyournextpregnancybycausingthatexactsameharmful situationinyourfirstpregnancy.

Thecompanythatmakestheinjectiondecidedthattheshotshouldbegivenduringgestationto increaseprofits.Itincreasesprofitsbecasuerhmotherscarryingrhbabiesarealsogettingthe injection.ThecompanyhasjustdoubleditssalesofRhogamthroughaminorlobbyingeffort.

Greatbusinessdecisionpoorhealthdecision.Theyconvincedthegovernmentagenciesto supporttheexpandedroleofRhogamwhothenrecommendeditforallrhnegative pregnancies.Doctorsfollowthegovernmentrecommendationswithoutquestion.Doctorsdo notmakethedecisions,theyfolloworders.

Rhogamworksjustfineifyougetitimmediatelyafteryoudeliverwhenitcan'tharmthebaby. YoucangetRhogamwithoutmercury.

TheRhogamantibodiesareidenticaltotheantibodiesthattheRhmothermakesagainsther child.TheRhogamantibodieswerecollectedfromRHmotherswhodidhaveanimmune responsetotheirRH+babies.TheRhogamantibodieswillattackanddestroythebaby'sred bloodcells(iftheydocomeacrosstheplacenta)beforethemother'simmuneresponsekicksin andmakesherownantibodies.Yougiverhogamtoamotherafterdeliverybecasuethatiswhen thebloodmixes.Therhogamantibodiesdestroythebaby'scellssothatthemother'simmune systemneverseesthemandthereforeneverbecomessensitizedtomakethoseexactsame antibodies.IfyougivetheRhogamantibodiesduringpregnancyyouhavejustcreatedthe situationyouweretryingtoavoid.ThewholepointisforthepregnantmothertoNOThave antibodiesagainstherownchildcirculatinginhersystemwhilesheispregnant.Anyblood mixingwouldallowthoseantibodiestoattackthebaby.Itdoesnotmatterifthemother's immunesystemmadethoseantibodiesoranothermother'simmunesystem(rhogam)made thoseantibodies.Theyareidenticaldowntotheirmolecularstructureandyoudonotwant themtocontactthebaby.

Infact,wecanrefertothemother'simmuneresponseagainstherbabyasrhogamproduction sincethat'sexactlywhatitis.Therefore,Therh+cellsofthebabystimulaterhogamproduction bytherhmother'simmunesystem.Wewanttopreventrhogamfromcirculatinginthemother whilesheispregnantbecausethoseantibodieswillharmthebaby.Todothiswegiverhogam immediatelyafterbirthsothatanyrh+cellsthatarestillinthemotherwillbedestroyed.This keepsthemother'simmunesystemfromseeingthosecellsandproducingherownrhogam whichwouldstayinhercirculationwheretheycouldattackanysubsequentrh+babies.Doctors wouldlikeustoinjectrhogamantibodiesduringpregnancytopreventtheformationofrhogam antibodies.Therhogamwilldestroyalltherh+cellsthuspreventingthemotherfrommakingher ownrhogamantibodies.Butwhat'sthepoint,youpreventedthemother'santibodiesfrombeing therebyputtingsomeoneelse'santibodiesintheexactsamespot.ThisisthepointwhichIam Rhogamistheimmuneresponsetothebaby.Itisthepooledserumfromrhmother'swhohave hadanimmuneresponsetotheirrh+babies.Youdonotwantthoseantibodiestocomeinto contactwithyourrh+baby.

EUROPEonlyadministersafterpregnancy!Duringpregnancyisadecisionthatwasmadebythe manufacturertomakemoney.

Ifawomanhasamiscarriagesheshouldhavetheshotimmediately.Ifthereisanamniocentesis performeditmaybeworthwhiletohavetheinjectionbutthereissomerisktothat.Itmakesno sensetogivetheinjectionat28weeksduringahealthypregnancy.Theblooddoesnotmixina sufficientmannertocauseanimmuneresponseinthemother.Iftherewerethatmuchmixing thentheinjectedantibodies(rhogam)wouldhaveaccesstothebabyandkillthebaby'sred bloodcells.It'sanowinsituationwithrhogamat28weeks.Thereasonthemanufacturercan getawaywithitisexactlybecausethereisnobloodmixing.Therhogamworksit'swayoutof themother'ssystemwithouteverdoinganything.

Anotherwaytolookatrhogam.Rhogamkillsthebaby'sredbloodcellsnomatterwherethose cellsare.Ifthebaby'sbloodcellsareinthemother,thosecellswillbedestroyed.Ifthebaby's redbloodcellsarecirculatingthroughthebabydeliveringoxygentothebaby'sbrain,the rhogamwillstillkillthosecellsanddeprivethebabyofoxygen.Itisnotagoodideatotakeany chancethatwouldallowtherhogamaccesstothebaby.Thedoctorsareconcernedonlyabout baby'scellscirculatinginthemotherbutantibodiesdiffusemuchmoreeasilythanwholecellsso therhogamwillreadilyfindthebaby'scellswherethebabyisthanforthewholecellsofthe babytofindtheirwaytotherhogam.

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REMEMBERthisisabloodproduct.......pooledblood..........

Manyissueshere

1.Abloodproduct

2.NecessaryduringpregnancyEuropeonlygivesafterdelivery;UK&USnowgivedoseduring pregnancyandafterbirth(money???)

3.MercuryinmanyRhogamsifgivenduringpregnancyproblemforfetus

4.IfbabyRhnegandMomRhnegnoproblemforfuturebirths

5.IfdadRhnegandMomRhnegmorethanlikelybabyRhneg

6AndtherearewomenwhohavechangedtheirRHstatus

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http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/genpcare.html#RhoGAM

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/rhogam.htm

http://www.whale.to/a/rhogam.html

Dogooglesearchwith +rhogam+refuse+pregnancy

antid:exploringmidwiferyknowledge

AversionofthisarticlewasalsopublishedinMIDIRSMidwiferyDigest

December2000,Vol9,No4,pp450455.

http://www.uwm.edu/People/rjhutz/week2.PDF givenafterbirth

http://www.piercecollege.edu/departments/lifesci/LAB15.htm SectionI.B.2 givenafterbirth

http://www.radmid.demon.co.uk/rhesus.htm

http://www.nice.org.uk/pdf/prophylaxisFinalguidance.pdf

ManywomenreceivedRhogamshotsduringpregnancyandimmediatelyafterdelivery.Rhogam, untilrecently,containedasmuchas25mcgofmercury.Themercuryinamotherispassedto thedevelopingfetusornursinginfant.

ICPARhogamandPregnancyTheconcernoverRhoGAMisbasedonthefactthatinitsearlier formitcontainedthimerosal.Between1968(whenRhoGAMwasfirstlicensed)andAprilof 2001,RhoGAMcontainedthethimerosalpreservative.Thimerosalcontainsethylmercuryand becausemethylmercury(anothermercurybasedcomposition)hasbeenfoundtocausesevere healthproblems,ethylmercuryisalsobeingscrutinized.Bothcompositionsareknowntobe neurotoxins.Todate,noconclusiveevidencehasbeenfoundlinkingethylmercuryto neurodevelopmentaldisorders,buttheFDAhastreatedthimerosalwithcaution.

MercuryFreeAlternativetoRhogam Rhogam,whichisusedtosuppressRHsensitizationinpregnantwomen,isnowavailableina mercuryfreealternative.CalledWinRhoSDF,thenewproductismanufacturedbyCanjene CorporationofWinnipeg,Canada,anddistributedbyNABI(18004584244,option#2).A packageinsertinPDFformatandotherproductinformationcanbeaccessedbyyouandyour

doctorattheNABIwebsite,