Thursday, May 01, 2003 Reference notes of meeting April 30, 2003 at St Eugene Tribal Council office.

In Attendance: Tom Munson Jim Whitehead Dan Gravelle Vic Clement Robert Williams Diana Cote Jim Beare Glenn Stewart Grant Costello Wayne Choquette KKTC Lands Coordinator KKTC Treaty Liaison KKTC Treaty Liaison KKTC Resource Protection Manager Traditional Use Program Technician Shuswap Band Natural Resource Coordinator Columbia Lake Band Natural Resource Coordinator ENKON Environmental Pheidias Project Management Consulting Archaeologist

Meeting got underway at 3:00 PM with Tom Munson in Chair. After introductions Tom stated purpose of meeting. Meeting was requested by Glen Stewart of ENKON on behalf of client Pheidias as a courtesy to the Tribal Council to keep it informed of environmental work being done on Jumbo Project to fulfill requirements under the Environmental Assessment Act of BC. Second purpose was to provide background environmental information for an archeology and traditional use study to be proposed for the area. Glen Stewart gave his report outlining the studies done by his firm since his first involvement with the Jumbo project in 1989. The studies included: Monthly wildlife aerial and ground surveys from September 1992 to August 1993. Results indicated that ungulates move into Jumbo Valley in late April-May and move out in October-November. A few moose overwinter in the valley dependent on snowpack. This seasonal movement is typical for the side valleys off the Columbia Valley. Fish habitat and population surveys conducted in September 1992 and May 1993. Results indicated that bull and rainbow/cutthroat trout were in lower Jumbo Creek but no fish in upper Jumbo near the proposed village site Water quality sampling conducted four times (September 1992, February, April and May 1993) to characterize water quality in Jumbo Creek. Metals were typical of glacier fed streams in the Kootenays Invertebrate sampling conducted in Jumbo Creek in September 1992 and May 1993. Results indicated that the benthic invertebrate community of Jumbo Creek is typical of an undisturbed stream Terrestrial Ecosystem Mapping at 1:20,000 scale for the entire Jumbo Valley was completed in 1992-1993 to assess wildlife habitat impacts from the Jumbo project Grizzly bear population study jointly funded by the EAO and the Proponent was conducted in the spring and summer of 1998. Results indicated that male grizzly bears were generally found within the Purcell Wilderness Conservancy and females were spread out throughout the remainder of the 1500 km2 study area. Two female grizzly bears were located within Jumbo Valley which was on the low side of densities compared to the remainder of the study area. The total population estimated for the entire 1500 km2 study area was approximately 45 grizzly bears, although it was recognized that due to the large home range of grizzly bears, many of these bears would use other habitat outside of the study area

In July 2000, Matt Austin of the Ministry of Environment, Lands and Parks working on behalf of the EAO, wrote a paper that assessed the potential impacts of the Jumbo project on the Central Purcell grizzly bear population. The report suggests that mitigation or offsite enhancement may offset residual impacts. One of the concerns expressed included the north-south movement of grizzly bears through the Purcells. Matt suggested that with the development of the Jumbo project, the only remaining north-south corridor was through Glacier Creek. Glenn indicated that the Kootenay Boundary Land Use Study (2001) identified an eastwest grizzly bear corridor and not a north-south corridor as suggested by Matt. ENKON was concerned that the proponent was being asked to address a concern that may not be an issue. Glenn also stated that Bruce McClelland, the grizzly bear expert for the Ministry of Forests in Revelstoke had commented that even if the Jumbo Project was constructed, grizzly bears would continue to move north-south through the Glacier Creek drainage In November 2000, ENKON submitted a grizzly bear management plan report to address Matt Austins concerns for impacts to grizzly bears within Jumbo Valley. Matt responded by indicating that ENKONs report addressed the majority of his concerns for grizzly bear impacts within the valley, but there remained concerns outside the valley. Since 2000, ENKON has been acquiring a substantial amount of information on grizzly bear habitat, trail/road systems, logging, mining, recreation, commercial tenures, etc., to be used in the cumulative impact assessment using the US Forest Service Model. In 2002, Clayton Apps was contracted by the EAO to conduct a satellite imagery assessment of grizzly bear habitat within the cumulative impact study area to fill in data gaps from other government/proponent sources to be used in the US Forest Service Model. The results of the model should be available this summer Glen stated his current task involved assisting Pheidias in combining and consolidating the voluminous studies into one comprehensive report to be submitted to the EAO within the next few months. KKTC acknowledged Glenns mention that a deadline had been imposed by govt. Glenn mentioned the detailed 1:20,000 scale Terrestrial Ecosystem Mapping (TEM) digital base done by his firm would be available in the next 2-3 weeks and offered it to the participants at the meeting. Thomas Munson indicated that it would be very useful in planning the Archaeological and TUS studies. In the short term, Glenn left a hard copy of the draft map with Thomas Munson. It was agreed that Glenn would send it to Thomas Munsons e-mail address once completed. Comments and Questions Jim Whitehead, Vic Clement and Diana Cote: Stated at the outset that they were displeased that this project was continuing to go through the approval process as the TC had continually expressed opposition to it and their position was being ignored by the Proponent. Informed the meeting that the Proponent should be meeting/negotiating with the Tribal Council. They questioned the reason or the need for this meeting. Tom Munson: Reiterated that meeting was called after Pheidias offered to share current information as a courtesy and he invited attendees. Stated that within the last week in conversation with Martyn Glassman, it was decided that there would be a study or Cost/Benefit Analysis on the Economic Impact of the Jumbo Project on First Nations included in the TOR.

Jim Beare: Asked if the wildlife studies include Caribou. Glenn replied not under the current TOR. Dan Gravelle: Asked if in the time Glenn has been studying Jumbo has anybody killed any grizzlies, anybody been killed by a grizzly, anybody been killed by an avalanche, any helicopters crash? Glenn responded no, not that he was aware of. Robert Williams: No comment

Meeting Adjourned at 4:30 PM.

Glenn Stewart

Grant Costello