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KillerZavatar
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Originally Posted by aquaticko I really don't know why the CTBUH set the standard for megatall at >600m. Even now, there are exceptionally few towers around the world that fit this definition, either in construction or the planning stages. I really think that >500m would've been a more useful height. i think the reason they chose 600m is because it is exactly twice as tall as a supertall and by that it makes sense and is easy to compare. In 10 years 600m buildings may be like 500m buildings are now, so it will still become a useful height for comparison with time and is already in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by aquaticko Anyway, I'm just glad to hear that this project isn't dead. Especially because the height drop means that the tower will be accompanied by two 50-floor buildings (I'd wager probably around 250m each), it won't stick out like quite the ridiculously sore thumb it would have otherwise. i just hope that these two buildings will nicely fit with the design of the main tower. hopefully the whole design won't change much with the decrease of the height and maybe the smaller towers will also be designed by the same architects that would at least make the whole thing look great i guess. And yeah all these giant projects in seoul are far from each other and this one isn't surrounded by already existing skyscrapers, which makes it quite cool that 50fl buildings are supposed to rise with it.
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Originally Posted by aquaticko And I also am curious to see how that atrium design turns out. Can you imagine looking straight up and seeing a 40-floor hole in the middle of the building ? i am already amazed by 6-story malls looking up and down. but 40 story atrium will be killer __________________ There are no rules of architecture for a castle in the clouds.
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patrykus
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maybe slightly off topic but here we go: atrium at burj al arab looking down (180m - up to 60 floors probably)
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I'm curious if you know any other huge atrium's like these. Obviously these are the largest but there are probably other significantly large out there. __________________
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KillerZavatar
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wow i never knew about them, this is just amazing other big atrium: The Grand Doubletree __________________ There are no rules of architecture for a castle in the clouds.
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Originally Posted by patrykus maybe slightly off topic but here we go: atrium at burj al arab looking down (180m - up to 60 floors probably)
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I'm curious if you know any other huge atrium's like these. Obviously these are the largest but there are probably other significantly large out there. Both of these atriums look beautiful but I'd rather have a massive concrete core in the middle of a building than such an atrium __________________ The Outbreak New Browser Online Stretegy Game beta round has started http://www.the-outbreak.com/ Be a mayor of a town in difficult times of an unknown virus pandemic killing millions of people across the United States Build your town, expand it, trade, negotiate and wage war in a unique and original online real time strategy game If you're interested in this game, PM me and I will guide you through your first moves of building a town
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patrykus
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Well guys at Som's seems to disagree on that one. But who are they? Just an architect studio with almost century of experience . Btw dmc tower design was proposed by som the very same who designed Jin Mao so its definitively not some crazy concept idea with this super large atrium. They have experience in this stuff __________________
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inno4321
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1. 5 years ago seoul goverment sold out own land for "to built Seoul land mark tower in sangamdong" 2. Daewoo Inc announce blueprint for 133 floors 630m. 3. World financial crisis hit the project.
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4. Daewoo Inc suggested modified plan(reduce height 77floor + two 50floors) Rejected by Seoul At the moment Daewoo Inc suggected new plan "100floors + two 50floors OR 103floors + one ?floors" __________________
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In comparison with Burj Al Arab, these ain't so tall, but the buildings are significant. Lloyd's Building 1978 - 1986 London Richard Rogers Partnership
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Looking up inside Lloyd's of London by bobaliciouslondon Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank Headquarters 1979-1986 Hong Kong Foster and Partners
Foster and Partners The atrium is divided in the middle by the glass panels due to the fire regulations.
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Century Tower #3 by guen-k More images Deutsche Bank Place 1997-2005 Sydney Foster and Partners
Richard Glover for Architecture Media Dentsu Building 1998-2002 Tokyo Jean Nouvel
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Shinjuku Sumitomo Building, Tokyo by stephenk1977 And some other examples... Public housing in Hong Kong.
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Vertigo by Mingshi.jenny
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patrykus
Especially the last one's from Tokyo and Hong Kong rules
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Scrapernab2
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Atlanta: http://youtu.be/bqmENsnYSIQ http://youtu.be/ug8OBqUSBPU That is only 1/2 the atrium! It's a mirror image on the other side.
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http://www.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm...30717470880529 Daily Seoul Light Tower news Seoul light In the maze - Actually "daewoo construction" request modified plan which is reduced tower's height to korea national land & transportation deparment's Mediation committee. -Request reduced height from 133fl to 100fl+two 50fl. Increase residence rate from 20% to 50% Mediation between the two sides is fail. -finally rejected by "Seoul Goverment" Seoul refuse increased residence rate and reduce tower's height. Is there any chance for 640m? __________________
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krkseg1ops
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100 floors will hardly be 640m, even with huge spire. I suspect 550ish height.
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KillerZavatar
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these are quite good news, i hope they stay with the 640m design __________________ There are no rules of architecture for a castle in the clouds.
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inno4321
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Originally Posted by KillerZavatar these are quite good news, i hope they stay with the 640m design possible
http://news.nate.com/view/20120314n11856 Daily News -Seoul stick to "133 Floors 640m" -Seoul reject another suggestion which daewoo's 103floor 30% residence/10% officetel -"That site is for "Landmark constrution" so floor reduce is "impossible"(said seoul concerns) __________________
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KillerZavatar
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it is amazing that they want to stay with the original tall design, but what i am afraid of is that it results in a stalemate between the major and the government and the project never gets a go, but right now it is not looking too bad. __________________ There are no rules of architecture for a castle in the clouds.
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korea2002
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Main Developers like reduction of development.. such like Incheon Tower development..... because they will buy site conveniently....
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korea2002
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maybe this thread must change title. from 133 to 103 floor. and Incheon Tower's floor will be reduced From Recent News(2012.3.13)
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KillerZavatar
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Originally Posted by korea2002 maybe this thread must change title. from 133 to 103 floor. and Incheon Tower's floor will be reduced From Recent News(2012.3.13) i wouldn't change the title as long there is still fighting over the developers. i mean inno just posted that the 103fl plan was rejected. As long we have chaotic things with parties saying this and that and going back to previous statements i think we should just let the title until we hear what final solution they came up with __________________ There are no rules of architecture for a castle in the clouds.
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architec101
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Originally Posted by KillerZavatar i wouldn't change the title as long there is still fighting over the developers. i mean inno just posted that the 103fl plan was rejected. As long we have chaotic things with parties saying this and that and going back to previous statements i think we should just let the title until we hear what final solution they came up with The thread title should have been 200 + floor tall landmark tower to begin with. That way, we know at lease by now we may have a 133 land mark, even after accepting their greedy chicken shit floor reduction proposal. Seoul gov must stick with no floor reduction policy for this project. Thank you.
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inno4321
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At last Seoul lite overcome crisis. break ground deadline until 31/May/2012 Today talk between seoulite Inc with seoul goverment. Seoullite 103 floors Seoul goverment 133 floors
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