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Alan Parsons Open Secret Dualism Sheep in Goats Clothing. Refer to <http://www.theopensecret.com/index.

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Say, I am so glad we are making so much headway; that we now agree on the theology; that what little we have left to deliberate or debate over are worldly or administrative issues how to be a sheep when your sheep spirit is lost in entanglement of the web of deceit of Satan of our goat personam of the son of man, the son of Adam. First let me commend you on a well articulated response, so unlike your earlier huff and puff and rebuke of Alan Parsons viewpoint; for it was like comparing apples with oranges. We have a Zen saying that to cultivate humility and kindness and respect for others, we have to see a silver lining in every dark cloud. We do this because our starting point or problem is that there is duality or dualism in this human world. If we can see that there is a sheep and goat in us; so there must be a sheep and goat in everybody else and everything else. So we see that a mistake can be good because we can learn from it. A bad man can also spiritually be a learned friend [although worldly moral bad] because he teaches us not to follow his evil ways. We learn from other peoples evil deeds that we will end up being punished and being sent to jail or spiritually end up with bad karma. This is another sore point I have with you always quoting Zen in terms of idle mindless meditation. Zen is about contemplation; which demonstrates that you have shut off your enquiring mind when I tried to explain Zen to you. What do you think Jesus was doing 40 days in the wilderness or from the age of 12 to the age of 30? He was not doing carpentry and selling furniture! Your latest response showed an enquiring, analytical and contemplative mind. You were not working in your usual occupation. So, in your own way you were doing your Zen contemplation. Jesuit prayer contemplation is synonymous to Zen contemplation. Christians who spent hours studying Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, The Wisdom of Solomon and Sirach are doing Zen contemplation. I knew straight away that we are halfway to the answer to our problem about worldly beingness and life when you reached the conclusion in your response that our being is both sheep and goat in one. That in Zen terms is like Buddha crashing through the wall or realising that Buddha is in us! or hearing The sound of 1 hand clapping [2 hand clapping is like sheep and goat in one body; 1 hand shopping is just being the sheep alone. Enlightenment is 1 hand clapping!]. For from your conclusion we can then follow through and deduce that the sheep is egoless and infallible and eternal but the goat is egoistic and fallible and mortal. However I can see that even though you are at a higher level of spiritual understanding now, you are still troubled by the idea of goat in your mind and in your personam and in your being.

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Let me illustrate by telling you that being a sheep at a transcendental level, i.e. when in your psyche you can get over the goat in you, is different from being a sheep still caught in sheeps clothing. A sheep at the transcendental level does not think or perceive or contend or wonder whether there is a God or not. When you know and realise that you are a lost sheep you are not thinking like a goat with an ego wondering whether it is God or someone else is God who created it. A sheep knows its Master. It does not have to wonder who its Master is! In that sense to a sheep there is no God. To even think that there is God or otherwise is blasphemy! When as the spirit son you submit to God with all your mind body and soul, you are subsumed in the spirit with the Spirit Father; you do not have to swear your allegiance or affirm your faith or prove your loyalty. That only happens in the world of goats! In Holy Trinity there is no God. That is why the Jews and Moslems do not understand. God is God or you need a God or you seek God only when you are a goat or a sheep in goats clothing still entangled with the trappings of this world. The transcendental sheep is into a God expressed as The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit representing and Eternal Unity. In this Eternity of the Holy Trinity, God is not the monotheistic God of religion or of faith. In that sense there is no God as sons of man, sons of Adam otherwise known as goats would perceive. In this Eternal Unity of all in one and one in all, worldly concepts and goat reasoning do not apply. There is no dualism! This non-dualism of Eternal Unity is hard to grasp or conceive. The best way we Jesuits can put it is that it is like God in everything and everything in God. It is like having to put our mind in abstract mode and seeing beyond I and God as a dualism, or beginning and ending, beyond birth and death, beyond space and matter and beyond whole and separation. So, the Pentecost Secret is not about the unity of the Spirit of God and the spirit of man, as you have claimed in your response. Please stop this false thought! Or, rephrase it to say the spirit son of God lost in the son of man. In the spirit it is about the Holy Trinity. In the spirit sons we are all one with the Spirit Father, joint and severally, in the Holy Trinity. As mortal goats we might be worldly different but in the eternal spirit we are all one and the same. Man has nothing to do with the Holy Trinity! Man has no spirit! A spirit is eternal and never dies. As Jesus said Flesh is flesh [i.e. man is man] and spirit is spirit. Also correct yourself and say that you are a sheep in spirit rather than sheep in faith. The spirit son of God shows filial piety and love for the Spirit Father and not [religious] faith in the Father. The Spirit Father has fatherly faith however in the spirit son realising sooner or later that it is lost and that then it would hear the Good Shepherds call to come home. Religious faith is dangerous and only end up in strife, wars and killings. Similarly, there is nothing religious about the Parable of the Talents, or indeed any of the Parables of Jesus. Once you see them as religious you miss the spiritual insight. Spiritual wisdom has nothing to do with religious wisdom. It is not wise to be religious. It is in fact dangerous and causes strife, wars and killings, as I said earlier. The parable of the Talents is best interpreted as a Spirit Father instructing his spirit son to be productive and useful. Would you not as a father instruct your son to be:Page 2 of 4

Dutiful Work hard Study hard Good and Honest To earn an honest living, to make money, to get rich so as to provide food, shelter, necessities, education for the family i.e. provide for their worldly welfare and enjoyment Striving to get rich and otherwise better themselves in every way so that they will be an asset to themselves, and to others and the nation Humble kind and generous Honourable so as not to bring shame to the family.

So, please do not say that you want to be a better goat! It shows that you are taking the Parable of the Talents as a religious issue. Life has nothing to do with religion. For, as you can see, The Parable of the Talents is about the Spirit Father instructing his spirit son (i.e. the sheep and not a goat). A bad goat, a good goat, a better goat, it does not matter, do not be a goat! I notice that in your response and your writings to date that you have avoided any mention of the Parable of the Sower that you reap what you sow [Matthew 13:3-23]? This is the 2nd most important Parable after the Parable of the Lost Prodigal Son. Understanding and appreciating the Parable that you reap what you sow enables you to understand Jacobs Ladder [Genesis 28:12 and John 1:51] and the unclean spirit and its seven more wicked companions [Matthew 12:43-45]. The spiritual practice in living your life is not to be a better goat but to slowly shed off your goats attire or clothing, piece by piece, layer by layer. Change the word sow to sew. Do not sew any more pieces or layers of sheeps clothing. The old ones that you have sewn in past lives or existences up and down Jacobs Ladder will gradually come off through effluxion of time when the karmic consequences expire or are expiated. Before long you will be a sheep reborn in this life or the next, and that is how you live life. The other material aspect to note is that because of the immutable judgment principle in the Parable of the Sower that you reap what you sow; life is suffering for most of us. That is why we end up with different capacities and capabilities, different endowments, fortunes or stations or status in life. Some of us just do not have the capacity or capability to aspire or work hard for we might have to suffer as slobs and morons and nincompoops. This is why with some sons no matter what the father instructs, all is in vain, i.e. when you have a black sheep. The Parable of the Talents is just a fathers instruction to a son for the sons own good. But it comes down to destiny or fate as to what son we get; as well as the sons destiny and fate! Now, you can then understand that the Book of Job is about Jobs suffering from his karmic afflictions, for what sort of father would wish such punishment to test a son. That sort of punishing God portrayed is not God as a Spirit Father. It shows a goats interpretation or goats wisdom.

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This brings me to conclude that, though we talk in metaphors about goats and sheep, this is just a provisional or expedient means. There isnt really any goat or sheep! Just like my explanation that there is not really a God, for monotheistic God is not God as we envisage as the Holy Trinity. So from sheep/goat to spirit son of God/son of man to spiritual mind/ worldly mind to spiritual knowledge/worldly knowledge to spiritual wisdom/ worldly wisdom we finally end up with spiritual consciousness/ worldly consciousness and Spirit Father Consciousness/false self-ego of Adam [Original Sin]. It is only in this sense that we eventually realise that our spirit consciousness or spirit wisdom must have always existed in eternity right from the beginning of time, before creation of man. Before tasting the Tree of [Worldly] Knowledge Adam was a spirit; and it was in his spirit that he was made in the image of God, the Spirit Father. Adam after the Fall, Adam the man, who made himself an idol before God the Father Spirit was not in the image of God the Spirit Father; as the spirit Adam son of God is and still is. Worldly self-egoistic Adam after the Fall is in fact the goat, representing Satan [Lucifer] and his horns. The son of Adam in us is the goat. The spirit son of God in us is the sheep! Everything in this world of man, the world of the goat, is all part of the web of deceit of Satan called Jacobs Ladder. So all the mountains, the rivers, the valleys and the trees, the universe etc were not in existence, at the time when our spirit consciousness or spirit wisdom was already in existence, before the beginning of time. Before Abraham we [as sheep] were! So, a better goat can never a sheep make. However, getting rid of the karma that continues to clothe us in goats clothing will! Love. Chuan 24/5/13

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