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Does not take into account thread classes- use published tables for standard threads!
Warning- Initial thread data is used throughout worksheet page- enter accurate numbers!
Nominal Size
Pitch
Height of sharp V
0.3125 in
24 tpi
0.041667 in
0.036084 in
60
1.058333
0.9165
7.9375
6.7918
7.2501
0.1323
0.8020
0.5728
0.2683 in
based on
0.0241
0.029
0.26
0.2091
-0.0764
in
in
in
in
in
8 deg
59.5159 deg
Max. mtl.
0.3364 in
d threads!
ate numbers!
Converter:
deg
mm
mm
mm
mm
mm
mm
mm
mm
diameter
diameter
4 mm
0.6 mm
0.157480
42.33333
in
tpi
Cutting Speeds
Lathe spindle speed
Work diameter
Surface speed
600 RPM
1 in
157.08 SFPM
Material
Steel, tough
Steel, mild
Steel, alloy
Steel, carbon
Steel, free cutting
Steel, leaded
Steel, stainless
Cast iron
Bronzes
Brass
Aluminum
HSS
50-60
100-125
65-120
70-130
115-225
300
75-130
60-80
80-150
600+
250-350
carbide
cast alloy
Included angle
Pitch
Basic OD
Clearance on crest
30
1
5.5
0.075
deg
mm
mm
mm
0.0394 in
0.2165 in
0.0030 in
Thread depth
Minor diameter
Pitch diameter
Width of flat at crest
Width of flat at root
Angled feed amount
0.5750
4.3500
5.0000
0.3660
0.3258
0.5953
mm
mm
mm
mm
mm
mm
0.0226
0.1713
0.1969
0.0144
0.0128
0.0234
in
in
in
in
in
in
8 tpi
8 tpi
Required Thread
36 tpi
Trial Factor
0.705556 mm metric
Transfer 1
Transfer 2
Transfer Ratio A
18 teeth
54 teeth
0.333333
For no transfer gears, "figure I", enter same value for each.
18/54 combination is normal for "figure II".
Transfer 3
Transfer 4
Transfer Ratio B
1 teeth
1 teeth
1
This is for "figure III" where the transfers are doubled and
reversed- use 18/54 here and 24/48 above. For no transfer
gears, enter the same value for each, say 1 and 1.
Stud Gear
Leadscrew Gear
24 teeth
36 teeth
Available gears
Threading Dial
16
18
24 (2)
32 (2)
36
40
44
46
48 (2)
52
54
56
60
64
68 (diy)
72
24
36
36
0.000
0.027778
0.705556
16
14.5
28
1.8750
0.0982
1.7500
0.8750
0.1348
deg
teeth
in
in
in
in
in
Logan and most older gears are 14.5 degree pressure angle.
4
0.01109
0.8648 in
use 0.01109 for 14.5, 0.0298 for 20, 0.04303 for 22.5 pressure angles
For no transfer gears, "figure I", enter same value for each.
This is for "figure III" where the transfers are doubled and
reversed- use 18/54 here and 24/48 above. For no transfer
gears, enter the same value for each, say 1 and 1.
%
inches
mm
use 0.01109 for 14.5, 0.0298 for 20, 0.04303 for 22.5 pressure angles
Lead Screw
8 TPI
3.175 mm pitch
Fitting 127 and 100 tooth metric transposing gears to a small lathe like my Logan 211 is not practical due to their large size.
The 47 and 37 tooth approximation is a far better solution and the error is negligible in almost every situation. The table below
uses an additional compound ratio for most pitches, as opposed to the factory supplied table that incorporates an additional 80
and 100 tooth gear. The unusual 0.35 mm pitch requires a 28 tooth gear and has not been checked for clearance. Gear trains
are dangerous and the combinations shown below will generally allow the standard gear cover to be closed.
There are many possible solutions to get the needed ratios. You can use my One Million Ratios program to look for alternate
combinations that use gears already in your possession.
Where the compound set shows 1:1, no gears are necessary unless a single idler is needed to achieve engagement. The idler
can have any number of teeth to properly position the other gears. The screw gear will be installed inside for all compound
combinations. If the compound is not necessary, or a simple idler gear is used, the screw gear will be installed in the outside
position, after the spacer. It is not guaranteed that all combinations shown here will install without interference and that they will
engage. Combinations I've personally checked are marked "good".
mm Pitch
Stud
0.20
0.25
0.30
0.35
0.40
0.45
0.50
0.60
0.65
0.70
0.75
0.80
0.90
1.00
1.20
1.25
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.75
2.00
2.25
2.50
2.75
3.00
3.50
4.00
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
60
60
40
50
40
40
64
40
60
40
1
40
60
1
40
1
40
40
1
40
1
1
1
1
60
60
60
18
24
16
28
24
18
32
32
52
24
1
32
48
1
24
1
52
56
1
32
1
1
1
1
48
56
48
Screw
60
64
60
64
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
40
60
60
36
60
60
60
64
60
40
48
40
32
36
24
Calc.
Checked
0.20
0.25
0.30
0.35
0.40
0.45
0.50
0.60
0.65
0.70
0.75
0.80
0.90
1.00
1.20
1.25
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.75
2.00
2.25
2.50
2.75
3.00
3.50
4.00
good
good
good
good
These are the Logan factory recommendations using many single ratios but requiring 80 and 100 tooth screw gears
The factory tables and diagrams are basically correct, but don't differentiate between setups with compounding and a simple
idler gear. Hopefully this table leaves nothing to guess. When an idler gear is used, any tooth count is suitable. Choose the
diameter based only on obtaining engagement with the other gears.
mm Pitch
0.20
0.25
0.30
0.35
0.40
0.45
0.50
0.60
0.65
0.70
0.75
0.80
0.90
1.00
1.20
1.25
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.75
2.00
2.25
2.50
2.75
3.00
3.50
4.00
4.50
5.00
5.50
6.00
Stud
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
47
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
37
72
72
72
72
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
18
18
18
18
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
Screw
100
100
100
100
100
100
100
100
100
100
80
100
100
100
100
80
100
100
80
80
40
40
32
40
40
20
20
20
20
20
20
Calc.
0.20
0.25
0.30
0.35
0.40
0.45
0.50
0.60
0.65
0.70
0.75
0.75
0.90
1.00
1.20
1.25
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.75
2.00
2.25
2.50
2.75
3.00
3.50
4.00
4.50
5.00
5.50
6.00
Notes
16
18
24
32
36
40
44
46
48
52
54
56
60
64
72
28
50
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
standard
special
special
0.20
0.25
0.30
0.35
0.40
0.45
0.50
0.60
0.65
0.70
0.75
0.80
0.90
1.00
1.20
1.25
1.30
1.40
1.50
1.75
2.00
2.25
2.50
2.75
3.00
3.50
4.00
4.50
5.00
5.50
6.00
Stud
Gearbox
48
48
72
42
48
54
48
72
39
42
72
48
54
48
72
60
39
42
72
42
48
54
60
66
72
42
48
54
60
66
72
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
60
QC TPI
160
128
160
80
80
80
64
80
40
40
64
40
40
32
40
32
20
20
32
16
16
16
16
16
16
8
8
8
8
8
8
Leadscrew
Transpose1
Transpose2
8
100
127
0.8
0.8
1.2
0.7
0.8
0.9
0.8
1.2
0.65
0.7
1.2
0.8
0.9
0.8
1.2
1
0.65
0.7
1.2
0.7
0.8
0.9
1
1.1
1.2
0.7
0.8
0.9
1
1.1
1.2
QC ratio
0.1
0.125
0.1
0.2
0.2
0.2
0.25
0.2
0.4
0.4
0.25
0.4
0.4
0.5
0.4
0.5
0.8
0.8
0.5
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
2
2
Product
0.08
0.1
0.12
0.14
0.16
0.18
0.2
0.24
0.26
0.28
0.3
0.32
0.36
0.4
0.48
0.5
0.52
0.56
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1
1.1
1.2
1.4
1.6
1.8
2
2.2
2.4
TPI
3.175 mm pitch
2.5 mm virtual pitch
0.200
0.250
0.300
0.350
0.400
0.450
0.500
0.600
0.650
0.700
0.750
0.800
0.900
1.000
1.200
1.250
1.300
1.400
1.500
1.750
2.000
2.250
2.500
2.750
3.000
3.500
4.000
4.500
5.000
5.500
6.000
Gear Selector for Fine Pitch Metric Threads on the Logan Changegear Lathe
1) Enter the desired pitch. We assume that 37/47 or 100/127 gear packs are already installed.
2) Select a gear pair from the table that produces the correct ratio. Install as the stud gear and leadscrew gear.
3) If a simple ratio is impossible, select two gear pairs, one for each of the new 1st and 2nd ratios. Some fractional multiplier may be needed.
4) Install one pair as the stud and outer of the pack nearest the leadscrew, the other pair as the inner of the pack, and the leadscrew gear.
Warning- Especially with the finer threads, many combinations can't be physically installed and engage properly. Experimentation required!
16
18
24
32
36
40
44
46
48
52
54
56
60
64
72
68
50
28
100
0.35 mm
0.14
test numerators
test denom.
test ratios
24
60
0.4
28
40
0.7
0.28
Standard Gears
16
18
1.0000 1.1250
0.8889 1.0000
0.6667 0.7500
0.5000 0.5625
0.4444 0.5000
0.4000 0.4500
0.3636 0.4091
0.3478 0.3913
0.3333 0.3750
0.3077 0.3462
0.2963 0.3333
0.2857 0.3214
0.2667 0.3000
0.2500 0.2813
0.2222 0.2500
0.2353 0.2647
0.3200 0.3600
0.5714 0.6429
0.1600 0.1800
24
1.5000
1.3333
1.0000
0.7500
0.6667
0.6000
0.5455
0.5217
0.5000
0.4615
0.4444
0.4286
0.4000
0.3750
0.3333
0.3529
0.4800
0.8571
0.2400
32
2.0000
1.7778
1.3333
1.0000
0.8889
0.8000
0.7273
0.6957
0.6667
0.6154
0.5926
0.5714
0.5333
0.5000
0.4444
0.4706
0.6400
1.1429
0.3200
36
2.2500
2.0000
1.5000
1.1250
1.0000
0.9000
0.8182
0.7826
0.7500
0.6923
0.6667
0.6429
0.6000
0.5625
0.5000
0.5294
0.7200
1.2857
0.3600
ratio multipliers
new 1st ratio
new 2nd ratio
Logical
2
0.280
0.500
3
0.420
0.333
4
0.560
0.250
5
0.700
0.200
6
0.840
0.167
7
0.980
0.143
8
1.120
0.125
9
1.260
0.111
Special Alt.
2.5
1
0.350 0.140
0.400
1
Use of special compound gear selection program recommended for difficult pitches.
40
2.5000
2.2222
1.6667
1.2500
1.1111
1.0000
0.9091
0.8696
0.8333
0.7692
0.7407
0.7143
0.6667
0.6250
0.5556
0.5882
0.8000
1.4286
0.4000
44
2.7500
2.4444
1.8333
1.3750
1.2222
1.1000
1.0000
0.9565
0.9167
0.8462
0.8148
0.7857
0.7333
0.6875
0.6111
0.6471
0.8800
1.5714
0.4400
46
2.8750
2.5556
1.9167
1.4375
1.2778
1.1500
1.0455
1.0000
0.9583
0.8846
0.8519
0.8214
0.7667
0.7188
0.6389
0.6765
0.9200
1.6429
0.4600
48
3.0000
2.6667
2.0000
1.5000
1.3333
1.2000
1.0909
1.0435
1.0000
0.9231
0.8889
0.8571
0.8000
0.7500
0.6667
0.7059
0.9600
1.7143
0.4800
52
3.2500
2.8889
2.1667
1.6250
1.4444
1.3000
1.1818
1.1304
1.0833
1.0000
0.9630
0.9286
0.8667
0.8125
0.7222
0.7647
1.0400
1.8571
0.5200
54
3.3750
3.0000
2.2500
1.6875
1.5000
1.3500
1.2273
1.1739
1.1250
1.0385
1.0000
0.9643
0.9000
0.8438
0.7500
0.7941
1.0800
1.9286
0.5400
56
3.5000
3.1111
2.3333
1.7500
1.5556
1.4000
1.2727
1.2174
1.1667
1.0769
1.0370
1.0000
0.9333
0.8750
0.7778
0.8235
1.1200
2.0000
0.5600
60
3.7500
3.3333
2.5000
1.8750
1.6667
1.5000
1.3636
1.3043
1.2500
1.1538
1.1111
1.0714
1.0000
0.9375
0.8333
0.8824
1.2000
2.1429
0.6000
64
4.0000
3.5556
2.6667
2.0000
1.7778
1.6000
1.4545
1.3913
1.3333
1.2308
1.1852
1.1429
1.0667
1.0000
0.8889
0.9412
1.2800
2.2857
0.6400
72
4.5000
4.0000
3.0000
2.2500
2.0000
1.8000
1.6364
1.5652
1.5000
1.3846
1.3333
1.2857
1.2000
1.1250
1.0000
1.0588
1.4400
2.5714
0.7200
Special Gears
68
50
4.2500 3.1250
3.7778 2.7778
2.8333 2.0833
2.1250 1.5625
1.8889 1.3889
1.7000 1.2500
1.5455 1.1364
1.4783 1.0870
1.4167 1.0417
1.3077 0.9615
1.2593 0.9259
1.2143 0.8929
1.1333 0.8333
1.0625 0.7813
0.9444 0.6944
1.0000 0.7353
1.3600 1.0000
2.4286 1.7857
0.6800 0.5000
28
1.7500
1.5556
1.1667
0.8750
0.7778
0.7000
0.6364
0.6087
0.5833
0.5385
0.5185
0.5000
0.4667
0.4375
0.3889
0.4118
0.5600
1.0000
0.2800
100
6.2500
5.5556
4.1667
3.1250
2.7778
2.5000
2.2727
2.1739
2.0833
1.9231
1.8519
1.7857
1.6667
1.5625
1.3889
1.4706
2.0000
3.5714
1.0000
More explanation:
The Logan leadscrew is 8 TPI, or 3.175 mm pitch. When you install a 100/127 pair the ratio is less than one so you are turning the leadscrew slower and
increasing the threads per mm that are cut, i.e., decreasing the pitch. The pitch is divided by 1.27, giving an effective leadscrew pitch of 2.5 mm per thread.
With the 100/127 gears in place you can simply think of the lathe as having a 2.5 mm pitch leadscrew. Thus the 2.5 factor in cell F11 of this spreadsheet.
If you're using the 37/47 gears, the correct number would be 2.499468, but this would just confuse things because none of the results would come out even.
The error between the 100/127 and 37/47 gear pairs is about 0.02%, insignificant for most purposes. It might matter for long engagements, but there are
other sources of pitch error that would also have to be considered before attempting such ill-considered designs.
16
18
24
32
36
40
44
46
48
52
54
56
60
64
72
68
50
28
100
8.47 TPI
0.945
test numerators
test denom.
test ratios
1
1
1
68
72
0.944
0.944
Standard Gears
16
18
1.0000 1.1250
0.8889 1.0000
0.6667 0.7500
0.5000 0.5625
0.4444 0.5000
0.4000 0.4500
0.3636 0.4091
0.3478 0.3913
0.3333 0.3750
0.3077 0.3462
0.2963 0.3333
0.2857 0.3214
0.2667 0.3000
0.2500 0.2813
0.2222 0.2500
0.2353 0.2647
0.3200 0.3600
0.5714 0.6429
0.1600 0.1800
24
1.5000
1.3333
1.0000
0.7500
0.6667
0.6000
0.5455
0.5217
0.5000
0.4615
0.4444
0.4286
0.4000
0.3750
0.3333
0.3529
0.4800
0.8571
0.2400
32
2.0000
1.7778
1.3333
1.0000
0.8889
0.8000
0.7273
0.6957
0.6667
0.6154
0.5926
0.5714
0.5333
0.5000
0.4444
0.4706
0.6400
1.1429
0.3200
36
2.2500
2.0000
1.5000
1.1250
1.0000
0.9000
0.8182
0.7826
0.7500
0.6923
0.6667
0.6429
0.6000
0.5625
0.5000
0.5294
0.7200
1.2857
0.3600
40
2.5000
2.2222
1.6667
1.2500
1.1111
1.0000
0.9091
0.8696
0.8333
0.7692
0.7407
0.7143
0.6667
0.6250
0.5556
0.5882
0.8000
1.4286
0.4000
44
2.7500
2.4444
1.8333
1.3750
1.2222
1.1000
1.0000
0.9565
0.9167
0.8462
0.8148
0.7857
0.7333
0.6875
0.6111
0.6471
0.8800
1.5714
0.4400
ratio multipliers
new 1st ratio
new 2nd ratio
Integer
2
1.889
0.5
3
2.834
0.333
4
3.778
0.25
5
4.723
0.2
6
5.667
0.167
7
6.612
0.143
46
2.8750
2.5556
1.9167
1.4375
1.2778
1.1500
1.0455
1.0000
0.9583
0.8846
0.8519
0.8214
0.7667
0.7188
0.6389
0.6765
0.9200
1.6429
0.4600
52
3.2500
2.8889
2.1667
1.6250
1.4444
1.3000
1.1818
1.1304
1.0833
1.0000
0.9630
0.9286
0.8667
0.8125
0.7222
0.7647
1.0400
1.8571
0.5200
54
3.3750
3.0000
2.2500
1.6875
1.5000
1.3500
1.2273
1.1739
1.1250
1.0385
1.0000
0.9643
0.9000
0.8438
0.7500
0.7941
1.0800
1.9286
0.5400
56
3.5000
3.1111
2.3333
1.7500
1.5556
1.4000
1.2727
1.2174
1.1667
1.0769
1.0370
1.0000
0.9333
0.8750
0.7778
0.8235
1.1200
2.0000
0.5600
60
3.7500
3.3333
2.5000
1.8750
1.6667
1.5000
1.3636
1.3043
1.2500
1.1538
1.1111
1.0714
1.0000
0.9375
0.8333
0.8824
1.2000
2.1429
0.6000
64
4.0000
3.5556
2.6667
2.0000
1.7778
1.6000
1.4545
1.3913
1.3333
1.2308
1.1852
1.1429
1.0667
1.0000
0.8889
0.9412
1.2800
2.2857
0.6400
72
4.5000
4.0000
3.0000
2.2500
2.0000
1.8000
1.6364
1.5652
1.5000
1.3846
1.3333
1.2857
1.2000
1.1250
1.0000
1.0588
1.4400
2.5714
0.7200
48
3.0000
2.6667
2.0000
1.5000
1.3333
1.2000
1.0909
1.0435
1.0000
0.9231
0.8889
0.8571
0.8000
0.7500
0.6667
0.7059
0.9600
1.7143
0.4800
8
7.556
0.125
Fractional
9
2.5
8.501 2.3613
0.111
0.4
Special Gears
68
50
4.2500 3.1250
3.7778 2.7778
2.8333 2.0833
2.1250 1.5625
1.8889 1.3889
1.7000 1.2500
1.5455 1.1364
1.4783 1.0870
1.4167 1.0417
1.3077 0.9615
1.2593 0.9259
1.2143 0.8929
1.1333 0.8333
1.0625 0.7813
0.9444 0.6944
1.0000 0.7353
1.3600 1.0000
2.4286 1.7857
0.6800 0.5000
28
1.7500
1.5556
1.1667
0.8750
0.7778
0.7000
0.6364
0.6087
0.5833
0.5385
0.5185
0.5000
0.4667
0.4375
0.3889
0.4118
0.5600
1.0000
0.2800
100
6.2500
5.5556
4.1667
3.1250
2.7778
2.5000
2.2727
2.1739
2.0833
1.9231
1.8519
1.7857
1.6667
1.5625
1.3889
1.4706
2.0000
3.5714
1.0000
40 :1
Dividing plates
holes
deg in
Desired division
deg out
15
24
0.6
16
22.5
0.5625
17 21.17647 0.529412
18
20
0.5
19 18.94737 0.473684
20
18
0.45
division
30
increment
600
640
680
720
760
800
20
21.33333
22.66667
24
25.33333
26.66667
21
23
27
29
31
33
17.14286
15.65217
13.33333
12.41379
11.6129
10.90909
0.428571
0.391304
0.333333
0.310345
0.290323
0.272727
840
920
1080
1160
1240
1320
28
30.66667
36
38.66667
41.33333
44
37
39
41
43
47
49
9.72973
9.230769
8.780488
8.372093
7.659574
7.346939
0.243243
0.230769
0.219512
0.209302
0.191489
0.183673
1480
1560
1640
1720
1880
1960
49.33333
52
54.66667
57.33333
62.66667
65.33333
54 6.666667 0.166667
2160
72
User fabricated
parts
User fabricated
Cannot do:
51
53
57
59
61
63
67
69
71
73
77
79
81
83
87
89
91
93
96
97
99
Knurling
Knurling should reproduce the knurl pattern around the part at the same spacing as the knurl. The knurl engages
the part very much like gears engage. There will be a series of optimum part diameters for a given diametrical
pitch knurl to give best quality. Though there is some flexibility in the diameter of the part, unsuitable part
diameters will lead to double tracking of the knurl and a poor pattern. If the knurl spacing on the part doesn't
match the knurl then double tracking has occured. Use this spreadsheet to choose optimum part diameters for
specific knurls. Most instructions state that some experimentation will be required.
50
0.75 in
66.6667
0.0471 in
1.1969
0.0150 in
0.625 in
0.010 in
0.630
0.615
0.600
0.585
in
in
in
in
Remember that the part diameter will grow with knurling, so you may want to choose one of the smaller blank
diameters calculated above.
You can also ink the (clean) knurl on a stamp pad and roll it down a piece of paper or just make an impression.
Count lines and measure with verniers. Use the calculations below.
Number of lines/cycles
Distance over pattern of lines/cycles
Circular pitch
Diametrical pitch
75
3.535 in
0.0471 in
66.6533
0.0150 in
0.625 in
0.0099 in
0.630
0.615
0.600
0.585
in
in
in
in
1.1972
mm
mm