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Plaintif and Defendant were married on May 11, 1987 in Bombay, India, and ever
4. There are two children of this maniage, both of whom are now adults.
since that date have been, and now are, Husband and Wife.
Defendant is not pregnant at this time.
6. Plaintif and Defendant have become, and continue to be, incompatible in
marriage, and no reconciliation is possible.
7. The current address of Plaintiff is 1644 Fieldcrest Drive, Sparks, N 89434.
8. The current address of Defendant is 260 Booth Street, Apt. Q, Reno, NV 89509.
9. The Court adopts, as Findings of Fact, each and every Conclusion of Law below,
which by this reference are expressly incorporated herein.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
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the subject matter herein.
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grounds of incompatibility.
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This COUli has jurisdiction of Plaintif and Defendant, and of
GROUNDS. Plaintiff is entitled to a Decree of Divorce from Defendant on the
CHILD SUPPORT/ADULT CHILDREN'S EDUCATION. Mr Joshi will not be
held responsible for the continuing education of the adult children of this marriage.
COMMUNITY PROPERTY/DEBT.
Women's Wealth: The "women's wealth" at issue herein is the sole and separate A)
propert of the Defendant. Plaintiff is to contact any and all relatives who may
have this propeliy and immediately ask them to retur said property to the
Defendant as soon as possible.
B) Mr. Joshi's Vehicle: The 2005 Chevrolet Blazer shall be considered as Plaintifs
sole and separate propeliy and Plaintiff shall be responsible for the debt remaining
thereon. Since the car is wOlih about $10,910.00 and there is $15,009.75 due and
owing on the vehicle, M. Joshi's assumption of this asset is to be considered as
an undertaking of community debt of approximately $4, I00.00.
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C) Ms. Joshi's Vehicle: Ms. Joshi's car shall be considered as her sole and separate
property and she shall be responsible for any debt remaining thereon. Since no
evidence was presented to the COUlt as to the value of the auto, either positive or
negative, there is no value for this community asset.
D) Son's Vehicle: This vehicle is not considered as an asset and will not be divided
among the community.
E) Vehicle: This vehicle is not considered as an asset and will not be
divided among the community.
F) London Bank Account: There is no factual basis to support that this account exists
and therefore it is not being considered a community asset.
G) Bank Accounts: There is no factual basis to SUppOlt that community
bank accounts exist and therefore the same is not being considered a community
asset.
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Joshi.
Television: Ms. Joshi is awarded the television which was purchased at Best Buy.
Said television is currently in Ms. Joshi's possession and shall be deemed her sole
and separate propert.
J) General Credit Card Debt: There is general debt of approximately $15,650.00
which has been expended for community purposes. Mr. Joshi has agreed to be
responsible for this debt and the same shall be considered as his sole and separate
responsibility.
Best Credit Card Debt: There is an approximately balance of $1,314.00
outstanding for the purchase of the television and computer. Mr. Joshi has agreed
to be responsible for this debt and the same shall be considered as his sole and
separate responsibility.
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L) Medical Debt: There is a debt due to St. Mmy's Hospital for $6,735.00 and a debt
due to REMSA for $500.00. Mr. Joshi has agreed to be responsible for these debts
and the same shall be considered as his sole and separate responsibility.
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Debt: There is a debt due to Ashik Nanaby and a $5,000.00 debt due to
Rod and Meena Fowler. M. Joshi has agreed to be responsible for these debts and
the same shall be considered as his sole and separate responsibility.
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General Debt: There was no evidence to establish community debt.
Mr. Joshi has agreed to take the remaining community debt in his name that is
outstanding and the debt shall be his sole and separate responsibility. I should be
noted that M. Joshi has likely incurred an unequal distribution of the community
debt of the parties and the Court finds his testimony to be a compelling reason for
making an unequal distribution of the community debt.
SPOUSAL SUPPORT: The COU1t has found that M. Joshi is 51 and Ms. Joshi is
46 and the pmties ear roughly equivalent amounts and that, afer consideration of net income,
deduction of taxes, including the amount paid on paying of community debt, as set fOlth above,
and in light of the fact the parties ha ve been married for twenty-one (21) years and Ms. Joshi has
always been employed during that time, inclusive of the fact that she obtained a college degree
prior to marriage, both parties being healthy and able to work, the Court does not believe that Ms.
112 Nev. Joshi is entitled to an award of alimony, pursuant to NRS 125.15(1)(A),
1355, 929 P.2d 196 (1996), and Shydler v. Shydler, 194 Nev. 192, 196,954 P.2d 37,39 (1988).
6. ATTORNEY'S FEES: The Court has the discretion to award attorey's fees in a
divorce action, pursuant to NRS 125.150(3), and Love v. Love, 114 Nev. 572, 959 P.2d 523
(1998). There is fther authority for fees pursuant to NRS 18.01 0(2)(B), and NRS 7.085. Based
on the above and foregoing, former counsel for the Defendant is ordered to pay attorney's fees in
the amount of $934.00 within thirty (30) days of this Order and Decree.
JDGMENT AND DECREE OF DIVORCE
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, ADJDGED, AND DECREED
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1 1. Plaintif, ASHWIN JOSHI be, and he is, finally and absolutely divorced fom
2 Defendant, BHARTI JOSHI, and that the bonds of matrimony heretofore existing between
3 Plaintif, ASHWIN JOSHI, and Defendant, BHARTI JOSHI, be, and they hereby are, dissolved,
4 and the paliies hereto are restored to the status of single and unmalTied persons.
2. The Defendant's name shall be restored to that ofBHARTI R. DAVE.
6 3. The matter, as set forth in the preceding Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, and
7 Decree of Divorce, is hereby ratifed, adopted, and approved, and the paliies are ordered to comply
8 with the terms of such.
9 IT IS SO ORDERED.
DATED this day of 2009. .
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WDCR 9 Proposed Final Decree, RE: discovery requests
From: Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)
Sent: Sun 5/24/09 7:19 PM
To: springgatelaw@sbcglobal.net
Hi J on,
Have you submitted a Final Decree or Findings of Fact yet? Will you be providing me a copy.
Apparently, I am not able to access efile for this case, so I assume that means you could not serve me
such a document via efile. Do you intend to assert that I am not entitled to a copy of the proposed
order, pursuant to WDCR 9? If I am, I have 5 days to object to it, etc...I know we previously discussed
language for bankruptcy concerns in our settlement discussion, but I feel it is important for the final
order to specify what is for what so that any 523-a-15 or 523-a-5 issues do not become problematic;
granted she is WLS's client...However, to the extent that the Final Decree spells out the sanctions, I
believe I am entitled to 5 days to review any proposed Final Decree prior to your submitting it. Please
let me know what you intend to do. Hopefully you received my Reply to your Opposition. Can you
respond to my earlier question, see below, regarding whether you ever sent any discovery requests to
Ms. J oshi?
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin
From: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: springgatelaw@sbcglobal.net
Subject: discovery requests
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:43:17 -0700
Hi J ohn,
Do you have any record of sending any discovery requests to Bharti J oshi? If so, could you indicate
what they were and when and provide a copy?
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
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RE: DV08-01168
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Cc: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com; Franden, Craig
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Hello Teresa:
I am forwarding this to you for response from the Filing Office - as
Michelle is out of the office today and tomorrow.
Note to Zach: You may wish to contact Teresa Prince directly regarding
this issue at 328-3103.
Thank you,
Cindy
Cindy Fladager
Business Systems Analyst II
Court Technology
Second Judicial District Court
75 Court Street
Reno NV 89501
775-328-3087
cindy.fladager@washoecourts.us
From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]
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Dear Michelle, Cindy, and Filing Office,
Thank you for your reply. I should point out that I do not believe I said I was still the attorney of record
for Ms. Joshi when I called about this. I am not her attorney anymore. However, I am still affected by this
case, and as such, it seems like it would be fair for me to have access to these files on efile.
One thing that I need to inquire about it that I filed a Reply to Mr. Springgate's Opposition to my Motion
for Reconsideration on May 20th. I got a call on Friday from Jenna at the filing office indicating she
needed to speak to me about this. I have not been able to talk with her about this yet. I see on Court
Connect that my Reply, filed on May 20th, does not appear as an entry. I see Judge Gardner filed an
Order denying the Motion for Reconsideration on May 21st. I would like my Reply to be part of the
record, even if Judge Gardner had already ruled. District Court Rules provide that I had 5 judicial days to
file a Reply to Springgate's Opposition, and mine was filed within that time frame. Even if Judge Gardner
does not consider my Reply, it can become part of my Appeal/Mandamus on this issue, and that is my
reasoning for wishing to see that it is filed and reflected in the record. If I am continued to be denied
efile access to this file, will I be, for instance, mailed Judge Gardner's Order. Will I have the 3 days for
mailing rule applied rather than service counting, in relation to me, upon Mr. Springgate or someone else
filing something in this case (that affects me) on eFile?
I appreciate your reply.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
tel 338 8118
Subject: RE: DV08-01168
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:41:18 -0700
From: Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us
To: Cindy.Fladager@washoecourts.us
CC: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
Mr. Coughlin was substituted out of the case by Washoe Legal Services on May 14, 2009.
Michelle Purdy
Deputy Clerk III
2nd Judicial District Court, Filing Office
75 Court Street, Room 131
Reno, NV 89501
(775)328-3107
Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us
_____________________________________________
From: Fladager, Cindy
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:18 PM
To: Purdy, Michelle
Cc: 'zachcoughlin@hotmail.com'
Subject: DV08-01168
Hello Michelle:
Forwarded to you for a Filing Office response.
Zach Coughlin, bar 9473, stated he is still attorney on case DV08-01168 and should be able to view
images, however, he has been ended as attorney of record and cannot access documents in eFlex.
ASHWIN JOSHI VS. BHARTI JOSHI.
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Cindy
Cindy Fladager
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Court Technology
Second Judicial District Court
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Reno NV 89501
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Re: WDCR 9 Proposed Final Decree, RE: discovery requests
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1. The proposed order was filed May 21. I have attached a copy via
pdf. I kept it very sparse on the sanctions.
2. The bankruptcy concerns are not your issue, she is not your client.
3. I did my discovery in the 16.1.
/s/ John
Zach Coughlin wrote:
> Hi Jon,
> Have you submitted a Final Decree or Findings of Fact yet? Will you
> be providing me a copy. Apparently, I am not able to access efile for
> this case, so I assume that means you could not serve me such a
> document via efile. Do you intend to assert that I am not entitled
> to a copy of the proposed order, pursuant to WDCR 9? If I am, I have
> 5 days to object to it, etc...I know we previously discussed language
> for bankruptcy concerns in our settlement discussion, but I feel it is
> important for the final order to specify what is for what so that any
> 523-a-15 or 523-a-5 issues do not become problematic; granted she is
> WLS's client...However, to the extent that the Final Decree spells out
> the sanctions, I believe I am entitled to 5 days to review any
> proposed Final Decree prior to your submitting it. Please let me know
> what you intend to do. Hopefully you received my Reply to your
> Opposition. Can you respond to my earlier question, see below,
> regarding whether you ever sent any discovery requests to Ms. Joshi?
> Sincerely,
> Zach Coughlin
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
> To: springgatelaw@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: discovery requests
> Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:43:17 -0700
>
> Hi John,
> Do you have any record of sending any discovery requests to Bharti
> Joshi? If so, could you indicate what they were and when and provide
> a copy?
> Sincerely,
> Zach Coughlin, Esq.
>
>
>
>
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discovery requests
From: Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thu 5/28/09 10:46 AM
To: Marc Ashley (mashley@washoelegalservices.org);
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Dear Washoe Legal Services,
Please see my concerns in the emails below. The proposed Decree submitted by Mr. Springgate presents
real problems for Ms. Joshi. Specifically the debt distribution is in no way referred to as being
characterized as in lieu of alimony or given any similar treatment. There is a wealth of authority, some of
which I have provided and some of which is contained in my emails to Mr. Springgate during the pre-trial
phase of the Joshi litigation that spells out why this is disadvantageous to Ms. Joshi. Bankruptcy law
specifically 532a(15) could potentially see Mr. Joshi, upon the requisite showing, be discharged of the
debt distributed in the decree and not forced to pay alimony.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 17:13:54 -0700
> From: springgatelaw@sbcglobal.net
> To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: WDCR 9 Proposed Final Decree, RE: discovery requests
>
> 1. The proposed order was filed May 21. I have attached a copy via
> pdf. I kept it very sparse on the sanctions.
>
> 2. The bankruptcy concerns are not your issue, she is not your client.
>
> 3. I did my discovery in the 16.1.
>
> /s/ John
>
> Zach Coughlin wrote:
> > Hi Jon,
> > Have you submitted a Final Decree or Findings of Fact yet? Will you
> > be providing me a copy. Apparently, I am not able to access efile for
> > this case, so I assume that means you could not serve me such a
> > document via efile. Do you intend to assert that I am not entitled
> > to a copy of the proposed order, pursuant to WDCR 9? If I am, I have
> > 5 days to object to it, etc...I know we previously discussed language
> > for bankruptcy concerns in our settlement discussion, but I feel it is
> > important for the final order to specify what is for what so that any
> > 523-a-15 or 523-a-5 issues do not become problematic; granted she is
> > WLS's client...However, to the extent that the Final Decree spells out
> > the sanctions, I believe I am entitled to 5 days to review any
> > proposed Final Decree prior to your submitting it. Please let me know
> > what you intend to do. Hopefully you received my Reply to your
> > Opposition. Can you respond to my earlier question, see below,
> > regarding whether you ever sent any discovery requests to Ms. Joshi?
> > Sincerely,
> > Zach Coughlin
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > From: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
> > To: springgatelaw@sbcglobal.net
> > Subject: discovery requests
> > Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:43:17 -0700
> >
> > Hi John,
> > Do you have any record of sending any discovery requests to Bharti
> > Joshi? If so, could you indicate what they were and when and provide
> > a copy?
> > Sincerely,
> > Zach Coughlin, Esq.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: DV08-01168
From: Purdy, Michelle (Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us) You moved this message to its current
location.
Sent: Thu 5/28/09 10:59 AM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
Cc: Prince, Teresa (Teresa.Prince@washoecourts.us)
Mr. Coughlin:
If you wish to have access, you would need to file a Notice of Appearance as a Real Party In Interest in
the matter and tender a $88.00 first appearance fee. As was stated earlier, Washoe Legal Service
substituted you out as the attorney so therefore you were ended as a party.
Michelle Purdy
Deputy Clerk III
2nd Judicial District Court, Filing Office
75 Court Street, Room 131
Reno, NV 89501
(775)328-3107
Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us
From: Zach Coughlin [mailto:zachcoughlin@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Purdy, Michelle
Subject: RE: DV08-01168
Hello Ms. Purdy,
I am still affected by this case considering the attorney fee's sanction that was levied against me
personally. Additionally, I have filed an Appeal/Mandamus Petition in that regard. I feel it is arguably
fair and or necessary that I continue to have access to all materials in this file via eFlex and ask that
you consider granting me such access.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
Tel: 775 338 8118
945 W. 12th St.
Reno, NV 89503
Subject: RE: DV08-01168
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:41:18 -0700
From: Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us
To: Cindy.Fladager@washoecourts.us
CC: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
Mr. Coughlin was substituted out of the case by Washoe Legal Services on May 14, 2009.
Michelle Purdy
Deputy Clerk III
2nd Judicial District Court, Filing Office
75 Court Street, Room 131
Reno, NV 89501
(775)328-3107
Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us
_____________________________________________
From: Fladager, Cindy
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:18 PM
To: Purdy, Michelle
Cc: 'zachcoughlin@hotmail.com'
Subject: DV08-01168
Hello Michelle:
Forwarded to you for a Filing Office response.
Zach Coughlin, bar 9473, stated he is still attorney on case DV08-01168 and should be able to view
images, however, he has been ended as attorney of record and cannot access documents in eFlex.
ASHWIN JOSHI VS. BHARTI JOSHI.
I copying him on this email and suggested that he phone you at 328-3107 directly for resolution.
Thank you,
Cindy
Cindy Fladager
Business Systems Analyst II
Court Technology
Second Judicial District Court
75 Court Street
Reno NV 89501
775-328-3087
cindy.fladager@washoecourts.us
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RE: DV08-01168
From: Zach Coughlin (zachcoughlin@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thu 5/28/09 10:51 AM
To: michelle.purdy@washoecourts.us
Hello Ms. Purdy,
I am still affected by this case considering the attorney fee's sanction that was levied against me
personally. Additionally, I have filed an Appeal/Mandamus Petition in that regard. I feel it is arguably
fair and or necessary that I continue to have access to all materials in this file via eFlex and ask that you
consider granting me such access.
Sincerely,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
Tel: 775 338 8118
945 W. 12th St.
Reno, NV 89503
Subject: RE: DV08-01168
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:41:18 -0700
From: Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us
To: Cindy.Fladager@washoecourts.us
CC: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
Mr. Coughlin was substituted out of the case by Washoe Legal Services on May 14, 2009.
Michelle Purdy
Deputy Clerk III
2nd Judicial District Court, Filing Office
75 Court Street, Room 131
Reno, NV 89501
(775)328-3107
Michelle.Purdy@washoecourts.us
_____________________________________________
From: Fladager, Cindy
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:18 PM
To: Purdy, Michelle
Cc: 'zachcoughlin@hotmail.com'
Subject: DV08-01168
Hello Michelle:
Forwarded to you for a Filing Office response.
Zach Coughlin, bar 9473, stated he is still attorney on case DV08-01168 and should be able to view
images, however, he has been ended as attorney of record and cannot access documents in eFlex.
ASHWIN JOSHI VS. BHARTI JOSHI.
I copying him on this email and suggested that he phone you at 328-3107 directly for resolution.
Thank you,
Cindy
Cindy Fladager
Business Systems Analyst II
Court Technology
Second Judicial District Court
75 Court Street
Reno NV 89501
775-328-3087
cindy.fladager@washoecourts.us
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CODE: 1745
JOHN P. SPRINGGATE,ESQ.
NevadaBar#1350
203 SouthArlingtonAvenue
Reno, NV 89501
Telephone: 775.323.8881
Attorneyfor Plaintiff
INTHEFAMILYDIVISION
IN THESECONDJUDICIALDISTRICTCOURTOFTHESTATEOFNEVADA
INAND FORTHECOUNTYOFWASHOE
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ASHWINJOSHI,
Plaintiff, CASENO.: DV08-01168
vs. DEPT.NO.: 14
BHARTIJOSHI,
Defendant.
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FINDINGSOFFACT,
CONCLUSIONSOFLAW,
AND DECREEOFDIVORCE
The above-entitled mattercame on for trial before this Court on March 11, 2009 and
March 12,2009. ASHWINJOSHI,Plaintiff,waspresentandrepresentedbyhiscounsel,JOHN
P. SPRINGGATE, ESQ. BHARTI JOSHI, Defendant, was present and represented by her
counsel, ZACHCOUGHLIN, ESQ. The Courtissuedits OrderAfterTrial whichwas filed on
April 13,2009.
FINDINGSOFFACT
1. Plaintiff is a residentof the Stateof Nevada, and for a periodof more than six (6)
weeksbeforecommencementofthisactionhasresidedandbeenphysicallypresentanddomiciled
inthe StateofNevada.
2. Defendantisaresidentofthe State ofNevada,and foraperiodof more thansix
(6) weeks before commencement ofthis action has resided and been physically present and
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JOHN P. SPRINGGATE, ESQ.
Transaction # 846216
Nevada Bar #1350
203 South Arlington Avenue
Reno,N 89501
Telephone: 775.323.8881
Attorey for Plaintiff
IN THE F AMIL Y DIVISION
IN THE SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF THE STATE OF NEVADA
IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF WASHOE
*****
ASHWIN JOSHI,
Plaintiff, CASE NO.: DV08-01168
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12 BHARTIJOSHI,
13 Defendant.
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FINDINGS OF
CONCLUSIONS OF
16 AND DECREE OF DIVORCE
17 The above-entitled matter came on for trial before this Court on March 11, 2009 and
18 March 12,2009. ASHWIN JOSHI, Plaintiff, was present and represented by his counsel, JOHN
P. SPRINGGATE, ESQ. BHARTI JOSHI, Defendant, was present and represented by her
counsel, ZACH COUGHLIN, ESQ. The Court issued its Order Afer Trial which was fled on
21 April 13, 2009.
22 FINDINGS OF FACT
23 1. Plaintiff is a resident of the State of Nevada, and for a period of more than six (6)
24 weeks before commencement of this action has resided and been physically present and domiciled
in the State of Nevada.
26 2. Defendant is a resident of the State of Nevada, and for a period of more than six
27 (6) weeks before commencement of this action has resided and been physically present and
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3. Plaintiffand Defendant were married on May 11, 1987 in Bombay, India, and ever
sincethatdate have been, andnoware, Husbandand Wife.
4. There aretwo childrenofthismarriage,bothofwhomare now adults.
5. Defendantisnotpregnantatthis time.
6. Plaintiff and Defendant have become, and continue to be, incompatible in
marriage,and noreconciliationispossible.
7. The currentaddressofPlaintiffis 1644FieldcrestDrive, Sparks,NV 89434.
8. The currentaddressof Defendantis260BoothStreet, Apt. Q, Reno, NV 89509.
9. The Courtadopts,asFindingsof Fact, each and everyConclusionof Lawbelow,
whichbythis referenceareexpresslyincorporatedherein.
CONCLUSIONSOFLAW
1. JURISDICTION. This CourthasjurisdictionofPlaintiffand Defendant,and of
the subjectmatterherein.
2. GROUNDS. Plaintiffis entitledto aDecreeofDivorcefromDefendanton the
grounds ofincompatibility.
3. CHILDSUPPORT/ADULTCHILDREN'SEDUCATION. MrJoshi willnotbe
held responsibleforthe continuingeducationofthe adult childrenofthis marriage.
4. COMMUNITYPROPERTY/DEBT.
A) Women'sWealth:The"women'swealth"atissuehereinisthe sole andseparate
propertyofthe Defendant. Plaintiffisto contactany and all relativeswho may
have this property and immediately ask them to return said property to the
Defendantassoon aspossible.
B) Mr.Joshi'sVehicle: The 2005 ChevroletBlazershall beconsideredasPlaintiff's
soleandseparatepropertyandPlaintiffshallberesponsibleforthedebtremaining
thereon. Sincethecarisworthabout$10,910.00andthere is$15,009.75dueand
owingon the vehicle,Mr. Joshi'sassumptionofthis asset istobe consideredas
anundertakingofcommunitydebt ofapproximately$4,100.00.
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12 1. JURISDICTION. This Court has jurisdiction of Plaintiff ad Defendant, and of
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14 2. Plaintiff is entitled to a Decree of Divorce from Defendant on the
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16 3. CHILD SUPPORT/ADULT CHILDREN'S EDUCATION. Mr Joshi will not be
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COMMUNITY PROPERTY/DEBT.
property of the Defendant.
Defendant as soon as possible.
3. Plaintiff and Defendant were maried on May 11, 1987 in Bombay, India, and ever
since that date have been, ad now are, Husband and Wife.
4. There are two children of this marriage, both of whom are now adults.
5. Defendant is not pregnant at this time.
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Plaintiff and Defendant have become, and continue to be, incompatible in
marriage, ad no reconciliation is possible.
The current address of Plaintiff is 1644 Fieldcrest Drive, Sparks, N 89434.
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The current address of Defendant is 260 Booth Street, Apt. Q, Reno, N 89509.
The Court adopts, as Findings of Fact, each and every Conclusion of Law below,
A) Women's Wealth: The "women's wealth" at issue herein is the sole and separate
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sole and separate property and Plaintiff shall be responsible for the debt remaining
thereon. Since the car is worth about $10,910.00 and there is $15,009.75 due and
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C) Ms. Joshi's Vehicle: Ms. Joshi's car shall be considered as her sole and separate
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negative, there is no value for this community asset.
D) Son's Vehicle: This vehicle is not considered as an asset and will not be divided
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F) London Bank Account: There is no factual basis to support that this account exists
and therefore it is not being considered a community asset.
11 G) Community Bank Accounts: There is no factual basis to support that community
12 bank accounts exist and therefore the same is not being considered a community
13 asset.
14 H) Computer: The computer which was purchased at Best Buy is awarded to Mr
Joshi.
16 I) Television: Ms. Joshi is awarded the television which was purchased at Best Buy.
17 Said television is currently in Ms. Joshi's possession and shall be deemed her sole
18 and separate property.
19 J) General Credit Card Debt: There is general debt of approximately $15,650.00
which has been expended for community purposes. Mr. Joshi has agreed to be
21 responsible for this debt and the same shall be considered as his sole and separate
22 responsibility.
23 K) Best Buy Credit Card Debt: There is an approximately balance of $1,314.00
24 outstanding for the purchase ofthe television and computer. Mr. Joshi has agreed
to be responsible for this debt and the same shall be considered as his sole and
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4 negative, there is no value for this community asset.
D) Son's Vehicle: This vehicle is not considered as an asset and will not be divided
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Vehicle: This vehicle is not considered as an asset and will not be
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9 F) London Bank Account: There is no factual basis to support that this account exists
and therefore it is not being considered a community asset.
11 G) Bank Accounts: There is no factual basis to support that community
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14 H) The computer which was purchased at Best Buy is awarded to Mr
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16 I) Television: Ms. Joshi is awarded the television which was purchased at Best Buy.
17 Said television is currently in Ms. Joshi's possession and shall be deemed her sole
18 and separate property.
19 J) General Credit Card Debt: There is general debt of approximately $15,650.00
which has been expended for community purposes. Mr. Joshi has agreed to be
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Best Credit Card Debt: There is an approximately balance of $1,314.00
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to be responsible for this debt and the same shall be considered as his sole and
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L) Medical Debt: There isadebtduetoSt.Mary'sHospital for$6,735.00andadebtto
REMSA for$500.00. Mr.Joshihasagreedtoberesponsible forthesedebtsandthe
sameshallbeconsidered ashissoleandseparateresponsibility.
M) Family Debt: ThereisadebtduetoAshikNanaby anda$5,000.00 debtduetoRod
andMeena Fowler. Mr.Joshihasagreedtoberesponsible forthesedebtsandthe
sameshallbeconsidered ashissoleandseparateresponsibility.
N) General CommunityDebt: Therewasnoevidencetoestablish community debt. Mr.
Joshiagreedtotaketheremainingcommunity debt inhisnamethatisoutstanding
andthedebtshallbehissoleandseparateresponsibility. ItshouldbenotedthatMr.
Joshihas likely incurred an unequal distributionof the community debtof the parties
andtheCourtfindshistestimonytobeacompelling reasonformakinganunequal
distributionof thecommunitydebt.
5. Spousal Support: TheCourthasfoundthat Mr.Joshi is51andMs.Joshiis46;the
partiesearnroughly equivalent amounts;thepartieshavebeenmarried 21yearsbutMs.Joshihas
alwaysbeenemployed duringthattime;Ms.Joshihasacollegedegree; bothpartiesareableto
work; and after considerationof the net income, deduction of taxes, and the amount paid in
communitydebtbyMr.Joshi, anawardofalimonyintheamount ofonedollar($1.00)shallbe
awardedtoMs.JoshipursuanttoNRS 125.150,Wolffv. Wolff 112Nev. 1355,929P.2d 196,and
Shydler v. Shydler, 194Nev. 192,196,954P.2d37,39(1988).
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L) Medical Debt: There is a debt due to St. Mary's Hospital for $6,735.00 and a debt to
RMSA for $500.00. Mr. Joshi has agreed to be responsible for these debts and the
same shall be considered as his sole and separate responsibility.
M) Debt:
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distribution of the community debt.
There is a debt due to Ashik Nanaby and a $5,000.00 debt due to Rod
and Meena Fowler. Mr. Joshi has agreed to be responsible for these debts and the
same shall be considered as his sole and separate responsibility.
N) There was no evidence to establish community debt. Mr.
Joshi agreed to take the remaining community debt in his name that is outstanding
and the debt shall be his sole and separate responsibility. It should be noted that Mr.
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paries ear roughly equivalent amounts; the paies have been married 21 years but Ms. Joshi has
always been employed during that time; Ms. Joshi has a college degree; both paies are able to
work; and afer consideration of the net income, deduction of taxes, and the amount paid in
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JUDGEMENTANDDECREEOF DIVORCE
NOW,THEREFORE,IT ISHEREBYORDERED,ADJUDGED,ANDDECREED 1.
Plaintiff,ASHWINJOSHIbe, and he is,finally and absolutelydivorcedfrom Defendant,
BHARTIJOSHI,and that the bonds ofmatrimonyheretoforeexistingbetweenPlaintiffASHWIN
JOSHI, and Defendant,BHARTIJOSHI,be,and theyherebyare, dissolved,and thepartieshereto
arerestoredtothe statusofsingleandunmarriedpersons.
2. There Defendant'snameshall berestoredtothat ofBHARTIR.DAVE.
3. The matter,assetforthin theprecedingFindingsof Fact, ConclusionsofLaw, and
DecreeofDivorce,isherebyratified, adopted,and approved,and thepartiesare
Orderedto complywith thetermsofsuch.
GOODCAUSEAPPEARING,IT IS SOORDERED.
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2 NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, ADJUDGED, AND DECREED 1.
3 Plaintif, ASHWIN JOSHI be, and he is, fnally and absolutely divorced from Defendant,
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BHARTIJOSHI, and that the bonds of matrimony heretofore existing between Plaintiff ASHWIN
JOSHI,and Defendant,BHARTIJOSHI,be, and they hereby are, dissolved, and the parties hereto
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Decree of Divorce, is hereby ratifed, adopted, and approved, and the parties are
Ordered to comply with the terms of such.
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AFFIRMATION PURSUANT TO NRS 239B.030
The undersigned does hereby affirm that the preceding document
does not contain the social security number of any person.
Dated this 26th day of October, 2009.
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
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1et those -ista.es 'i' not ,esult in ,e6ecte' "ilings, 5ut ,athe,, the o;;osing ;a,ties 8e,e a5le to secu,e
"iling 'ates "o, thei, "ilings, -an1 o" 8hich 8e,e o" the ti-e is o" the essence (a,iet1, an' then a5le to
late, a,gue a8a1 Bo, atte-;t toC these Esc,i(ene,=s e,,o,sF.
EReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: 1.C E#hi5its nee' to 5e sent o(e, as continuations. 2.C Since the e#hi5its nee's
to 5e attache' into 2 continuation "iles ;lease attach a secon' Ne#hi5it oneN co(e, ;age on the secon'
continuation. +han. 1ou, @atthe8 7!28I!115.F +his E,eason "o, ,e6ectionF -a1 cite an EIAle#
;olic1, 5ut 9 'o not 5elie(e is ;,o(i'es a legal 5asis "o, ,e6ecting -1 "iling. Au,the,, 9 ha(e seen -an1,
-an1 )9AS> "ilings 51 3e;ut1 3ist,ict >tto,ne1s that attach au'its o, sche'ule o, a,,ea,s that lac. not
onl1 an 9n'e# to E#hi5its 5ut also an1 o" the co(e, ;age "o, such e#hi5its, -uch less continuation
;ages.
EReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: Zach, ;lease go to Reno 0ustice Cou,t ;a1 to the O21$ "o, the "iling "ee, see
Ka,en Stancil. +he1 in tu,n 8ill sen' the -one1 an' the a;;eal to 3ist,ict Cou,t "o, "iling. >n1
questions call >nnie 7 !28I!112.F
ESu--ons Aile' ReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: *ages 8ithin 'ocu-ents -ust 5e o,ginial. *lease ,esu5-it
Su--ons 8ith o,iginal Ga""i'a(it o" se,(iceG attache'. >n1 questions call >nnie 7 !28I!112.F 4oul'
1ou ;lease ;,o(i'e a citation "o, the ,ule that allo8s "o, ,e6ecting -1 "iling on this 5asisN
EReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: @,. Coughlin, /n A,i'a1 12?1$?11, the cou,t -a'e an e#ce;tion "o, the "iling
o" 1ou, e#hi5it in CV11I%1955. +he cou,t 'i' not ,ecei(e the C3 51 noon as in'icate' in 1ou, CV11I
%1955 "iling. 9t 8ill 5e necessa,1 "o, 1ou to su5-it the a;;,o;,iate ;a;e, "iling in the "iling o""ice that
contains 1ou, C3...F 9 8ish to 5e ;,o(i'e' so-e in'ication in 8,iting as to ho8 one can "ile
elect,onicall1 a 'ocu-ent that attaches as an e#hi5it a C3?3V3.
EReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: +his is 5eing ,e6ecte' "o, the "ollo8ing: ...:ou cannot EIA9&E an 9A*. 9t nee's
to 5e ;a;e, "ile'... I @ia !28I!148F
EReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: +he 'ocu-ent 'oes not co-;l1 8ith 4C3R 1%... ;age 2 o" E#hi5it 2 is not
legi5le, ;age 245 o" E#hi5it 2 is scanne' u;si'e 'o8n an' a nu-5e, o" the 'ocu-ents 8ithin E#hi5it 2
a;;ea, to ha(e 5een scanne' at an angle. *lease co,,ect 1ou, "iling an' ,esu5-it "o, a;;,o(al. 9" 1ou
ha(e questions, ;lease call &o,i at !28I!114.F 9 ha(e t8o cases 8he,ein the legi5ilit1 o" the
'ocu-ents attache' as e#hi5its has 5een litigate' e#tensi(el1, an' none o" the o;;osing counsel=s
e#hi5its a;;ea, to ha(e 5een ,e6ecte' on the 5asis set "o,th a5o(e, "u,the,, it is not clea, ho8 one coul'
no8 8hethe, a ;age has 5een Escanne' at an angelF o, 8hethe, the ;age ",o- the e#hi5it as ;,esente'
is the onl1 ,e;,esentation o" that ;age that e#ists, 8hethe, it a;;ea,s that 8a1 'ue to a scanning e,,o,, a
a ;,inting e,,o,, the scanning o" the onl1 co;1 o" a ;age that 8as scanne' in 8ith that e,,o,, etc.
EReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: ... *age is 8$ o" the 'ocu-ent is 5lan.. 9s the 'ocu-ent su5-itte' "o, "iling
co-;lete o, a,e 1ou -issing a ;ageN 9" not ;lease ,e-o(e the 5lan. ;age 8$. >n1 questions, ;lease call
&o,i at !28I!114.F +his is not a ;,o;e, 5asis "o, ,e6ecting a "iling, no, is an1 ,ule cite' to in su;;o,t o"
this ,e6ection.
EReasonBsC "o, ,e6ection: ...+he *,oo" o" Se,(ice 'oes not co-;l1 8ith 4C3R 1%B1C &ines o" ;ages
-ust 5e nu-5e,e' in the le"t -a,gin o, on legal ;lea'ing ;a;e,. *age 1$ o" the 'ocu-ent contains an
9n'e# o" E#hi5itsL ho8e(e,, no e#hi5it 8as su5-itte' 8ith this "iling. >n1 questions, ;lease call &o,i at
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!28I!114F +he ,ationale cite' he,e -ight ;,o(i'e goo' suggestions, 5ut the1 si-;l1 a,e not a 5asis
"o, ,e6ecting -1 "ilings an' ;,e(enting -1 su5-issions "o, secu,ing a "iling 'ate, ;a,ticula,l1 8he,e
ti-e is o" the essence. Au,the, a *,oo" o" Se,(ice o, Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice is not a ,equisite to a ;a;e,
5eing "ile' BNRC* 5B'CB4C: E*,oo" o" se,(ice -a1 5e -a'e 51 ce,ti"icate o" an atto,ne1 o, o" the
atto,ne1Hs e-;lo1ee, o, 51 8,itten a'-ission, o, 51 a""i'a(it, o, othe, ;,oo" satis"acto,1 to the cou,t.
Aailu,e to -a.e ;,oo" o" se,(ice shall not a""ect the (ali'it1 o" se,(ice.FC. Au,the, 43CR 1%B1C 'oes
not e(en a;;l1 to a *,oo" o" Se,(ice o, Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice: E43CR Rule 1%. Ao,- o" ;lea'ings...
&ines o" ;ages -ust 5e nu-5e,e' in the le"t -a,gin o, on legal ;lea'ing ;a;e,.F > Ce,ti"icate o"
Se,(ice -a1 co-e a"te, a ;lea'ing. Aailu,e to attach a Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice is not a 5asis "o, ,e6ecting
a ;lea'ing "o, "iling. Si-ila,l1, is it i-;e,-issi5le to ,e6ect a "iling 5ase' u;on the lac. o" line
nu-5e,s on a Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice.F
Au,the,, the use o" the te,- E*lea'ingF can 5e a 5it con"using. NRC* R)&E . E*&E>39N<S
>&&/4E3L A/R@ /A @/+9/NS BaC *lea'ings. +he,e shall 5e a co-;laint an' an ans8e,L a ,e;l1
to a counte,clai- 'eno-inate' as suchL an ans8e, to a c,ossIclai-, i" the ans8e, contains a c,ossI
clai-L a thi,'I;a,t1 co-;laint, i" a ;e,son 8ho 8as not an o,iginal ;a,t1 is su--one' un'e, the
;,o(isions o" Rule 14L an' a thi,'I;a,t1 ans8e,, i" a thi,'I;a,t1 co-;laint is se,(e'. No other pleading
shall be allo1ed, e#ce;t that the cou,t -a1 o,'e, a ,e;l1 to an ans8e, o, a thi,'I;a,t1 ans8e,.F So,
-otions, a ce,ti"icate o" se,(ice, an o;;osition, etc a,e not inclu'e' in 8hat is consi'e,e' a E;lea'ingF.
43CR Rule 1% a;;ea,s as: ERule 1% Ao,- o" ;lea'ings 1. >ll ;lea'ings an' ;a;e,s ;,esente' "o,
"iling...F So, 43CR ,elates to the "o,- o" E;lea'ingsF. 4hile it is t,ue that the te#t o" that ,ule o"ten
,e"e,s to E;a;e,s ;,esente' "o, "ilingF, etc., it 'oes not Ban' is not cu,,entl1 5eing a;;lie' in this
-anne,C a;;l1 to e(e,1thing su5-itte' "o, "iling to the cou,t. Ao, instance, one 'oes not nee' to ha(e
the ;a;e,s inclu'e' in an e#hi5it ;,esente' on ;lea'ing ;a;e, o, 8ith line nu-5e,s. >s such, gi(en
that a Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice is not a ;lea'ing, an' nothing in an1 othe, a;;lica5le ,ule ,equi,es line
nu-5e,s on ;a;e,s that a,e not ;lea'ings. 43CR is (e,1 s;eci"ic as to 8hat is a;;lies to, ta.ing g,eat
;ains to ,e;eat o(e, an' o(e,, 8he,e it inten's to a;;l1, the ;,hase Eall ;lea'ings an' ;a;e,s...F. 4he,e
the ;h,ase Eall ;lea'ings an' ;a;e,sF 'oes not a;;ea,, the 'ictates o" 43CR 1% onl1 a;;l1 to that
8hich the na-e o" the ,ule in(o.es, ie, E;lea'ingsF. <i(en that the 'e"inition o" a E;lea'ingF 'oes not
inclu'e a Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice o, an 9n'e# to E#hi5its, the EIAle# ,e6ections 5ase' u;on the "ailu,e o"
such 'ocu-ents to ha(e line nu-5e,s B8hich is onl1 ,equi,e' in 43CR 1% "o, E;lea'ingsFI43CR
1%B1C states that E+he lines o" each ;age -ust 5e 'ou5le s;ace', e#ce;t that 'esc,i;tions o" ,eal
;,o;e,t1 -a1 5e single s;ace'. *ages -ust 5e nu-5e,e' consecuti(el1 at the 5otto-. &ines o" ;ages
-ust 5e nu-5e,e' in the le"t -a,gin o, on legal ;lea'ing ;a;e,...F 8ithout ;,e"acing those 'ictates,
8ith Eall ;lea'ings an' ;a;e,sF o, an1 si-ila, language. Au,the,, 43CR 1%B2CB"C -a1 s;eci"1 an
o,'e, "o, things, 5ut it 'oes not ,equi,e, sa1, an 9n'e# to E#hi5its. 9n'ee', -an1 E;lea'ingsF an' e(en
so-e E;a;e,s ;,esente' "o, "ilingF 'o not ha(e an 9n'e# to E#hi5its. &i.e8ise, the,e is no ,equi,e-ent
that a Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice 5e "ile' 8ith a E;lea'ing o, ;a;e,F ;,esente' "o, "iling. Aailu,e to inclu'e
a Ce,ti"icate o" Se,(ice -a1 ha(e consequences to one=s litigation, ho8e(e,, nothing in an1 a;;lica5le
,ule allo8s "o, ,e6ecting one=s "ilings in that ,ega,', an' ce,tainl1 not an1thing in 43CR 1%. &i.e8ise,
no ,ule allo8s "o, ,e6ecting one=s "iling si-;l1 5ecause an attache' 3ecla,ation 'oes not 5a,e the
o,iginal signatu,e o" the 3ecla,ant
NRC* 5 o""e,s "u,the, insight as to 8hat is a ;lea'ing "o, 43CR 1% ;u,;oses. ENRC* R)&E
5. SERV9CE >N3 A9&9N< /A *&E>39N<S >N3 /+2ER *>*ERS BaC Se,(ice: 4hen Requi,e'.
E#ce;t as othe,8ise ;,o(i'e' in these ,ules, e(e,1 o,'e, ,equi,e' 51 its te,-s to 5e se,(e', e(e,1
;lea'ing su5sequent to the o,iginal co-;laint unless the cou,t othe,8ise o,'e,s 5ecause o" nu-e,ous
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'e"en'ants, e(e,1 ;a;e, ,elating to 'isco(e,1 ,equi,e' to 5e se,(e' u;on a ;a,t1 unless the cou,t
othe,8ise o,'e,s, e(e,1 8,itten -otion othe, than one 8hich -a1 5e hea,' e# ;a,te, an' e(e,1 8,itten
notice, a;;ea,ance, 'e-an', o""e, o" 6u'g-ent, 'esignation o" ,eco,' on a;;eal, an' si-ila, ;a;e, shall
5e se,(e' u;on each o" the ;a,ties.
@s. @atheus has ,ecentl1 ,e6ecte' se(e,al e#t,e-el1 ti-e sensiti(e ;lea'ings 9 ha(e su5-itte'
in asse,ting that the 9n'e# to E#hi5its -ust ha(e line nu-5e,s on the ;age on 8hich such an' 9n'e#
a;;ea,s. 9 'o not 5elie(e 43CR 1%, o, an1 othe, a;;lica5le ,ules ,equi,es this B43CR 1%B1C: GRule
1%. Ao,- o" ;lea'ings... *ages -ust 5e nu-5e,e' consecuti(el1 at the 5otto-. &ines o" ;ages -ust 5e
nu-5e,e' in the le"t -a,gin o, on legal ;lea'ing ;a;e,...G 2o8e(e,, 43CR 1%B$C clea,l1 esta5lishe'
that an 9n'e# to E#hi5its ;age is not consi'e,e' ;a,t o" the G;lea'ingG itsel". +he,e"o,e, ;lease ,et,act
the ,e6ection o" all "ilings ,e6ecte' 5ase' u;on that -is,ea'ing o" 43CR 1% an' ale,t the ,es;ecti(e
3e;a,t-ents as to the 'ela1 atten'ant to those "ilings an' co,,ect the 'oc.ets to ,e"lect the co,,ect
"iling 'ates, as so-e o" those cases ha(e seen 'ea'lines ,un 8ithout ,es;onse B8hich -a.es the
o;;osing si'es a,gu-ents an' @otion 'ee-e' a'-itte' un'e, the *ol.C 'ue to 8hat 9 5elie(e is an
i-;e,-issi5le ,e6ection o" the atte-;t to access 6ustice, not onl1 in light o" NRC* 5BeC, 5ut 8ith
,es;ect to 1ou, -is,ea'ing o" 43CR 1%.
9 8oul' li.e -1 EIAle# elect,onic "iling su5sc,i;tion cha,ges 8ai(e' o, ,e"un'e' in light o" the
Cou,t=s "ailu,e to co-;l1 8ith 43CR 12B1%C an' 'ue to the othe, issues ;,esente' he,ein. *lease let
-e .no8 in 8,iting the 'ecision on that ,equest.
Au,the,, NRC* 5BeC hol's that: GBeC.. The clerk shall not refuse to accept for filing any paper
presented for that purpose solely because it is not presented in proper form as reuired by these
rules or any local rules or practices.G
4ith ,ega,' to the 43C "iling o""ice? eAle# sta"" ,e"using to "ile ;a;e,s su5-itte' "o, "iling,
;lease consi'e,:
Sulli(an (. Eighth 0u'icial 3ist. Cou,t 9n an' Ao, Count1 o" Cla,., 9%4 *.2' 1%!9, 111 Ne(.
1!$ BNe(., 1995C: E+his ;,o;e, ;e,son ;etition "o, a 8,it o" -an'a-us see.s an o,'e, ",o- this cou,t
'i,ecting the Eighth 0u'icial 3ist,ict Cou,t to "ile ;etitione,=s a;;lication to ;,ocee' in "o,-a ;au;e,is
an' his ci(il co-;laint. 1 /n 0ul1 25, 1995, 8e o,'e,e' the state to "ile an ans8e, to this ;etition. +he
state=s ans8e, 8as "ile' on >ugust 11, 1995. 2 3ocu-entation su5-itte' 51 ;etitione, to this cou,t
esta5lishes that ;etitione, su5-itte' to the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t "o, "iling an a;;lication to ;,ocee'
in "o,-a ;au;e,is an' a ci(il co-;laint on @a1 15, 1995. >lthough the a;;lication "o, lea(e to ;,ocee'
in "o,-a ;au;e,is 8as in ;,o;e, "o,- an' 8as s8o,n to un'e, ;enalt1 o" ;e,6u,1, the cle,. o" the
'ist,ict cou,t 'i' not "ile that a;;lication. ! +he "ailu,e to "ile the a;;lication 8as in (iolation o" the
clea, statuto,1 -an'ate that such an a;;lication 5e "ile'. NRS 12.%15B1C ;,o(i'es that GRaSn1 ;e,son ...
-a1 "ile an a""i'a(it Rsee.ing lea(e to ;,ocee' 8ithout ;a1-ent o" "eesS.G Au,the,, 8e ha(e ,e;eate'l1
inst,ucte' the cle,. o" the Eighth 0u'icial 3ist,ict Cou,t that such 'ocu-ents -ust 5e "ile'. See
Jo8-an (. 3ist,ict Cou,t, 1%2 Ne(. 44, 28 *.2' 4!! B198$C Bcle,. has a -iniste,ial 'ut1 to acce;t
an' "ile 'ocu-ents i" those 'ocu-ents a,e in ;,o;e, "o,-L cle,. -ust not e#e,cise an1 6u'icial
'isc,etionCL Ja,nes (. 3ist,ict Cou,t, 1%! Ne(. $9, 48 *.2' 48! B198C B;,isone,=s ,ight o" access to
cou,t cannot 5e 'enie' on 5asis o" in'igenc1CL 2ue5ne, (. State, 1% Ne(. !28, 81% *.2' 12%9 B1991C
Bcle,. -ust c,eate an accu,ate ,eco,' o" all ;lea'ings su5-itte' "o, "iling, 8hethe, o, not the
'ocu-ents a,e actuall1 "ile'CL 4hit-an (. 4hit-an, 1%8 Ne(. 949, 84% *.2' 12!2 B1992C Bcle,. has no
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autho,it1 to ,etu,n 'ocu-ents su5-itte' "o, "ilingL instea', cle,. -ust sta-; 'ocu-ents that cannot 5e
i--e'iatel1 "ile' G,ecei(e',G an' -ust -aintain such 'ocu-ents in the ,eco,' o" the caseCL 3onoho (.
3ist,ict Cou,t, 1%8 Ne(. 1%2, 842 *.2' !1 B1992C Bthe cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t has a 'ut1 to "ile
'ocu-ents an' to .ee; an accu,ate ,eco,' o" the ;,ocee'ings 5e"o,e the cou,tCL <,e1 (. <,e1, 111 Ne(.
!88, 892 *.2' 595 B1995C Bcle,. o" 'ist,ict cou,t a'-onishe' "o, "ailu,e to .ee; accu,ate ,eco,' o"
'ocu-ents su5-itte' "o, "ilingC.
*etitione, alleges that the 'ist,ict cou,t has ,e"use' to "ile his a;;lication an' has ,etu,ne' it
8ith 'i,ections to ;,o(i'e -o,e in"o,-ation ,ega,'ing e-;lo1-ent. 9n'ee', ;etitione, has attache' to
his ;etition "o, a 8,it in this cou,t his o,iginal a;;lication as it 8as ,etu,ne' to hi-. >ttache' to the to;
o" the 'ocu-ent is a G;ostIitG note 8ith the han'8,itten notation: Ga;;lication 'enie' inco-;lete in"oI
e-;lo1-ent cu,,entl1.G 4 +he state in"o,-s us that the note 8as 8,itten 51 Gthe chie" 6u'ge.G 9n
a''ition, ;etitione, alleges, an' the allegation is a;;a,entl1 t,ue, that along 8ith his G'enie'G
a;;lication "o, lea(e to ;,ocee' in "o,-a ;au;e,is, his ci(il co-;laint 8as ,etu,ne' to hi- un"ile'.
Ainall1, ;etitione, alleges, an' has attache' 'ocu-entation to su;;o,t the allegation, that 6u'ges= la8
cle,.s o"ten ,etu,n to ;,isone,s un"ile' -otions along 8ith lette,s ;u,;o,ting to ,ule on the legal
su""icienc1 o" those -otions. +he state a,gues in its ans8e, to this ;etition that G;etitione,=s a;;lication
... 8as 'enie' on the 5asis that the a'',ess o" the *etitione, 8hich 8as late, gi(en to the Cou,t 51
*etitione, ... 'i' not a;;ea, to 5e a 6ail an' that such in"o,-ation 8as cont,a,1 to the in"o,-ation
sho8n in the a;;lication 8hich state' that the *etitione, 8as in ;,ison. +he =out o" 6ail= a'',ess
suggeste' an a5ilit1 o" the *etitione, to 5e e-;lo1e'.G +his (ague ,e"e,ence to an Gout o" 6ailG a'',ess
is not e#;laine' in the 'ocu-ents 5e"o,e this cou,t. Ne(e,theless, the state=s asse,tion that ;etitione,=s
a;;lication 8as 'enie' is inco,,ect. +he han'8,itten notation on ;etitione,=s un"ile' a;;lication clea,l1
'oes not constitute a ;,o;e, 6u'icial 'is;osition o" that a;;lication. Au,the,, the action o" the cle,. o"
the 'ist,ict cou,t in ,etu,ning ;etitione,=s a;;lication an' ci(il co-;laint to hi- un"ile' is in 'i,ect
(iolation o" this cou,t=s inst,uctions to the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t in 4hit-an (. 4hit-an, 1%8 Ne(.
949, 84% *.2' 12!2 B1992C. +his cou,t has se(e,al ti-es con"i,-e' the a5solute o5ligation o" the
'ist,ict cou,ts to "ile 'ocu-ents su5-itte' to the- an' to ;,ese,(e the ,ight o" citiDens to access to the
cou,ts, 8hethe, in'igent o, not. Ja,nes (. 3ist,ict Cou,t, 1%! Ne(. $9, 48 *.2' 48! B198CL 2ue5ne,
(. State, 1% Ne(. !28, 81% *.2' 12%9 B1991C.
9n'ee', in 3onoho (. 3ist,ict Cou,t, 1%8 Ne(. 1%2, 842 *.2' !1 B1992C, a case 'i,ectl1
analogous to this case, 8e hel' that the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t (iolate' the ,ights o" an in'igent ;a,t1
8hen she neglecte' to "ile a -otion "o, lea(e to ;,ocee' in "o,-a ;au;e,is an' a -otion "o, ,elie" ",o-
a 'e"ault 6u'g-ent. S;eci"icall1, 8e state': GR+She cle,. Ro" the 'ist,ict cou,tS ha' an a5solute 'ut1 to
"ile the -otion "o, lea(e to ;,ocee' in "o,-a ;au;e,is an' to clea,l1 sta-; the 'ate o" ,ecei;t o" the
othe, 'ocu-ents on the 'ocu-ents. Au,the,, the cle,. ha' a 'ut1 to .ee; an accu,ate ,eco,' o" the case
;en'ing 5e"o,e the 'ist,ict cou,t.G 9'. at 1%29, 842 *.2' at !! Bcitation o-itte'L e-;hasis a''e'C.
+hus, ;etitione,=s a;;lication "o, lea(e to ;,ocee' in "o,-a ;au;e,is -ust 5e "ile'. 9", on su5sequent
,e(ie8 o" the a;;lication, the 'ist,ict cou,t 'ete,-ines that ;etitione, has not sho8n he is in'igent, the
'ist,ict cou,t -a1 o,'e, ;etitione, to ;,o(i'e "u,the, in"o,-ation o, -a1 'en1 the a;;lication in an
a;;,o;,iatel1 "ile' 8,itten o,'e,. 9", on the othe, han', the 'ist,ict cou,t g,ants the a;;lication, the
'ist,ict cou,t -ust then ;,ocee' to ,equi,e the "iling o" ;etitione,=s othe, 'ocu-ents an' to consi'e,
the- in 'ue cou,se. 3onoho, 1%8 Ne(. at 1%!%, 842 *.2' at !!. /" cou,se, "o, statute o" li-itations
;u,;oses, the co-;laint 8oul' ha(e to 5e consi'e,e' "ile' on the 'ate o" actual ,ecei;t 51 the cle,. o"
the 'ist,ict cou,t. +o continue the anal1sis, 8ith ,es;ect to ;etitione,=s ci(il co-;laint 8hich he is
atte-;ting to "ile concu,,entl1, the 'ist,ict cou,t cle,. ha' an a5solute o5ligation to sta-; the
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'ocu-ent G,ecei(e'G an' to ,eco,' the 'ate on 8hich the 'ocu-ent 8as in "act ,ecei(e' at the
cou,thouse. See 2ue5ne, (. State, 1% Ne(. !28, 81% *.2' 12%9 B1991C. +his the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict
cou,t 'i'. 2o8e(e,, the cle,. then ha' a 'ut1 to -aintain a co;1 o" the ,ecei(e' 'ocu-ent in the ,eco,'
o" the case, 8hethe, o, not the 'ocu-ent is e(e, "ile'. 4hit-an (. 4hit-an, 1%8 Ne(. 949, 84% *.2'
12!2 B1992C.
+his, the cle,. neglecte' to 'o. 4hile 2ue5ne, 'ealt 8ith the ti-eliness o" a notice o" a;;eal,
the ,ationale co-;elling this cou,t=s ,uling in 2ue5ne,, that all 'ocu-ents -ust 5e -a,.e' ,ecei(e' an'
'ate', a;;lies 8ith equal "o,ce to a ;a,t1=s su5-ission o" a co-;laint. G+he legal ,ights o" the ;a,ties to
litigation, 8hethe, acting in ;,o;e, ;e,son o, th,ough counsel, o"ten tu,n on the 'ate o" ,ecei;t 51 the
cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t o" 'ocu-ents an' ;lea'ings.G 2ue5ne,, 1% Ne(. at !!%, 81% *.2' at 1211. >s
8ith a notice o" a;;eal, the unti-el1 "iling o" a co-;laint -a1 ;,e(ent the cou,t ",o- hea,ing the
-atte, on its -e,its. 9t is the ,es;onsi5ilit1 o" the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t to .ee; an accu,ate ,eco,'
o" all 'ocu-ents su5-itte' to he,, 8hethe, o, not the1 a,e "ile'. >s in 2ue5ne,, a-5iguities ,ega,'ing
8hen 'ocu-ents 8e,e ,ecei(e' o, "ile' -ust ulti-atel1 5e ,esol(e' in "a(o, o" the ;a,t1 su5-itting
the-. 9'. at !!2, 81% *.2' at 1212. +he issue ;,esentl1 5e"o,e this cou,t is not 8hethe, ;etitione,=s
-otion "o, lea(e to ;,ocee' in "o,-a ;au;e,is is su""icient to esta5lish ;etitione,=s in'igence. Au,the,,
8e a,e not no8 conce,ne' 8ith the -e,its o" ;etitione,=s ci(il co-;laint. 4e a,e (itall1 conce,ne',
ho8e(e,, 8ith the ;,ese,(ation o" the constitutional ,ight o" access to the cou,ts an' 8ith the ;,otection
o" the constitutional ,ight to 'ue ;,ocess o" la8. > 8,it o" -an'a-us is a(aila5le to co-;el the
;e,"o,-ance o" an act 8hich the la8 ,equi,es as a 'ut1 ,esulting ",o- an o""ice, t,ust o, station. NRS
!4.1$%. +he cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t has an a5solute 'ut1 to "ile ;etitione,=s a;;lication an' to
;,o;e,l1 ,ecei(e an' .ee; a ,eco,' o" ;etitione,=s co-;laint. >cco,'ingl1, 8e g,ant this ;etition "o, a
8,it o" -an'a-us. $ +he cle,. o" this cou,t shall se,(e a co;1 o" ;etitione,=s a;;lication an' co-;laint
on the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t "o,th8ith. +he cle,. o" this cou,t shall also issue a 8,it o" -an'a-us
co-;elling the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t to "ile ;etitione,=s a;;lication, an' to ,ecei(e ;etitione,=s
co-;laint. +hese 'ocu-ents 8ill 5e consi'e,e' to ha(e 5een "ile' an' ,ecei(e' on @a1 15, 1995.
IIIIIIIIIIIIIII 1 *etitione, also see.s a 8,it o" ;,ohi5ition en6oining the 'ist,ict cou,t, the cle,. o" the
'ist,ict cou,t an' he, e-;lo1ees ",o- 'en1ing ;,isone,s access to the cou,ts in the "utu,e. 4e 'en1
;etitione,=s ,equest "o, a 8,it o" ;,ohi5ition. 2 Cause a;;ea,ing, 8e g,ant ;etitione,=s ;,o;e, ;e,son
,equest "o, lea(e to "ile a ,e;l1 to the state=s ans8e,. +he cle,. o" this cou,t shall "ile the ,e;l1, entitle'
G;etitione,=s ,e;l1 to ;etition "o, 8,its o" -an'a-us an' ;,ohi5ition,G 8hich 8as ,ecei(e' 51 this cou,t
on >ugust 21, 1995. ! >lthough the 'ocu-ent 8as entitle' Ga;;licationG ,athe, than Ga""i'a(it,G it 8as
s8o,n to un'e, ;enalties o" ;e,6u,1, ;,o(i'e' in"o,-ation conce,ning ;etitione,=s "inancial con'ition
an' clea,l1 sought a 6u'icial ,uling ,ega,'ing the question o" 8hethe, ;etitione, 8oul' 5e allo8e' to
;,ocee' 8ith a ci(il action 8ithout the ;a1-ent o" "ees. +hus, an1 'e(iation as to "o,- 8as not
signi"icant enough to 6usti"1 the cle,.=s "ailu,e to "ile the 'ocu-ent. +he cle,. o" the cou,t has no
'isc,etion to -a.e an1 6u'icial ,uling ,ega,'ing the legal su""icienc1 o" a 'ocu-ent. 4hen a 'ocu-ent
in ;,o;e, "o,- is su5-itte' to the cle,., the cle,. has a -iniste,ial 'ut1 to "ile that 'ocu-ent. 4 4e
note that ;etitione, is ;,esentl1 an in-ate at the Ne(a'a State *,ison, an' that his a""i'a(it "ile' in this
cou,t in su;;o,t o" this ;etition states that he is cu,,entl1 une-;lo1e' an' has no ;,ison 6o5. 2e also
a(e,s that his onl1 asset is O$.5 in his ;,ison account. 5 /ne such lette, ",o- a la8 cle,. to an in-ate
states: G>ttache' ;lease "in' 1ou, @otions to *,ocee' in Ao,-a *au;e,is 8hich 1ou ,ecentl1
su5-itte'. NRS 12.%15 ,equi,es an in'igent litigant to set "o,th =8ith ;a,ticula,it1 "acts conce,ning his
inco-e, ;,o;e,t1, an' othe, ,esou,ces ...= :ou, a;;lication to ;,ocee' sets "o,th this in"o,-ation (e,1
gene,all1.G G*lease ,esu5-it the @otion 8ith a -o,e ;a,ticula, state-ent ,ega,'ing 1ou, "inances an'
an1 ;,o;e,t1 1ou o8n....G >lthough this lette, 'oes not 'i,ectl1 'en1 the -otion, it clea,l1 has the
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e""ect o" 'en1ing the -otion 8ithout "iling. /" cou,se, li.e the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t, a 6u'ge=s la8
cle,. lac.s 6u'icial autho,it1. $ +he state ,e;,esents that Gthe 3ist,ict Cou,t 8ill "ile the *etitione,=s
co-;laint u;on su5-ittal 51 the ;etitione,.G +his state-ent 8as 5ase' on the state=s (ie8 that 8e
'ete,-ine' in ou, /,'e, to Sho8 Cause that ;etitione, shoul' 5e allo8e' to ;,ocee' in "o,-a ;au;e,is.
4e, ho8e(e,, e#;,ess no o;inion ,ega,'ing the -e,its o" ;etitione,=s a;;lication o, co-;laint. 4e
-e,el1 'ete,-ine that the a;;lication shoul' ha(e 5een "ile' an' 6u'iciall1 ,esol(e', an' the co-;laint
shoul' ha(e 5een ;,o;e,l1 ,ecei(e'. 4e note that ;etitione, has sent the o,iginal 'ocu-ents to this
cou,t, an' thus -a1 not 5e in a ;osition to ,esu5-it the-. >lso, "o, statute o" li-itations ;u,;oses, the
'ocu-ents -ust 5e consi'e,e' "ile' as o" the 'ate o" o,iginal ,ecei;t. +hus, 8e ha(e 'ete,-ine' that
this ;etition -ust 5e g,ante'.F >nothe, (e,1 i-;o,tant an' inst,ucti(e case is 4hit-an (. 4hit-an,
1%8 Ne(. 949, 84% *.2' 12!2 BNe(., 1992C: E/n ,ehea,ing, a;;ellant has su5-itte' 'ocu-ents that
conclusi(el1 'e-onst,ate that a;;ellant su5-itte' a ti-el1 notice o" a;;eal to the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict
cou,t.
>lthough the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t sta-;e' the notice o" a;;eal G,ecei(e'G on 3ece-5e,
!%, 1991, the cle,. 'i' not "ile the notice o" a;;eal. 9nstea', the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t ,etu,ne'
a;;ellant=s notice o" a;;eal to a;;ellant 5ecause it 8as not acco-;anie' 51 a "iling "ee an', although
the notice 8as acco-;anie' 51 a -otion "o, lea(e to ;,ocee' on a;;eal in "o,-a ;au;e,is, a;;ellant=s
a""i'a(it in su;;o,t o" that -otion 8as a;;a,entl1 not signe'. Consequentl1, the,e is no ,eco,' o" the
su5-ission o" a;;ellant=s ti-el1 notice o" a;;eal. 4e note that the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t "ile'
a;;ellant=s -otion "o, lea(e to ;,ocee' on a;;eal in "o,-a ;au;e,is on the 'ate o" ,ecei;t, 3ece-5e,
!%, 1991, an' that the 'ist,ict cou,t e(entuall1 g,ante' that -otion. 4e ha(e ;,e(iousl1 state' that Git is
e#t,e-el1 i-;o,tant that the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t .ee; an accu,ate ,eco,' o" the 'ate o" ,ecei;t o"
e(e,1 'ocu-ent su5-itte' to the cle,., ,ega,'less o" 8hethe, the 'ocu-ent is in the a;;,o;,iate "o,-.
9n'ee', it is a g,oss 'e,eliction o" 'ut1 "o, the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t to neglect this -iniste,ial 'ut1.G
2ue5ne, (. State, 1% Ne(. !28, !!%, 81% *.2' 12%9, 1211 B1991C B"ootnote o-itte'C. 9n this case, the
cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t has "aile' to .ee; an1 ,eco,' o" the 'ate o" ,ecei;t o" a;;ellant=s notice o"
a;;ealL instea', the cle,. sta-;e' the 'ocu-ent G,ecei(e'G an' ,etu,ne' it to a;;ellant. +he cle,. o"
the 'ist,ict cou,t ha' no autho,it1 to ta.e such action.
>lthough the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t ha' no 'ut1 to "ile a;;ellant=s notice o" a;;eal 5e"o,e
a;;ellant ;ai' the ,equisite "iling "ee o, 8as ,elie(e' o" the 'ut1 to ;a1 the "iling "ee 51 o,'e, o" the
'ist,ict cou,t, see NRS 19.%1!B2C, the cle,. ha' a 'ut1 to ,ecei(e the 'ocu-ent an' to .ee; an accu,ate
,eco,' o" the case ;en'ing 5e"o,e the 'ist,ict cou,t. *a,ticula,l1 in this case it 8as essential that the
notice o" a;;eal 5e ,etaine' in the ,eco,', 5ecause 8e ha(e hel' that a notice o" a;;eal is e""ecti(e on
the 'ate o" ,ecei;t 51 the 'ist,ict cou,t cle,.. See 2ue5ne, (. State, R1%8 Ne(. 952S 1% Ne(. !28, 81%
*.2' 12%9 B1991C. Rathe, than ,etu,ning the notice o" a;;eal to a;;ellant, the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t
shoul' ha(e ,etaine' the notice o" a;;eal in the ,eco,', an' shoul' ha(e in"o,-e' a;;ellant 51 lette, o"
an1 ;e,cei(e' 'e"iciencies in the 'ocu-ent. 4 >;;ellant coul' then ha(e ta.en 8hate(e, action 8as
a;;,o;,iate to ;u,sue his a;;eal. 9n light o" the "o,egoing, 8e conclu'e that a;;ellant ti-el1 su5-itte'
to the cle,. o" the 'ist,ict cou,t a notice o" a;;eal ",o- an a;;eala5le o,'e, o" the 'ist,ict cou,t, an'
that a;;ellant=s ti-el1 notice o" a;;eal is not containe' in the ,eco,' 'ue to the ina;;,o;,iate action o"
the 'ist,ict cou,t cle,.. >cco,'ingl1, 8e g,ant a;;ellant=s ;etition "o, ,ehea,ing, an' 8e ;,ocee' to
a'',ess the -e,its o" this a;;eal.F 9'. >t 12!2I12!4. See, also, Ja,nes (. Eighth 0u'icial 3ist. Cou,t o"
State o" Ne(., 9n an' Ao, Cla,. Count1, 48 *.2' 48!, 1%! Ne(. $9 BNe(., 198C.F
1!
&astl1, the /,'e, g,anting the 9n Ao,-a *au;e,is >;;lication 9 "ile' in CV11I%189$ 8as
g,ante'. 2o8e(e,, that case has 5een 'is-isse' 'ue to ;,o5le-s associate' 8ith getting the 4ashoe
Count1 She,i""=s /""ice to ca,,1 out se,(ice o" ;,ocess in acco,'ance 8ith the te,-s o" that /,'e,. Can
1ou ;lease state the Secon'=s ;osition, in 8,iting, 8ith ,es;ect to the ,es;onsi5ilit1 o" ;,o se litigants
8ho ha(e 5een g,ante' an /,'e, assigning the- in "o,-a ;au;e,is status 8ith ,es;ect to -a.ing co;ies
o" thei, Co-;laint, Su--ons, etc. an' 'eli(e,1 such to the 4ashoe Count1 She,i""=s /""ice an' o,
;,o(i'ing inst,uctions "o, se,(ice. *lease ;,o(i'e an e#;lanation o" those ;ositions a"te, co-;a,ing
those ;olicies o, ;ositions 8ith the "ollo8ing hol'ing: G+he 'e"ect in se,(ice Bthat the ;hotoco;1 o"
the co-;laint ;,o(i'e' 8as too "aintC 8as not att,i5uta5le to the ;lainti"", 5ut to cou,t ;e,sonnel, 8ho
a,e ,es;onsi5le "o, -a.ing co;ies o" the initial ;lea'ings "o, 9A* litigantsG. @cKENZ9E (. >@+R>K
@ /A E, A.Su;;. 1119.
Since,el1,
Zach Coughlin, Esq.
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1309046
FV11-03779 01-27-2012:12:56:53 AM Obj to Master's Recommendation Rejected
1309045
DV10-00545 01-27-2012:12:32:38 AM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1309044
CV11-01955 01-26-2012:11:46:37 PM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1307491
FV11-03779 01-26-2012:06:03:39 AM Obj to Master's Recommendation Rejected
1307490
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1307489
CV11-01955 01-26-2012:12:50:41 AM **Continuation Rejected
1307484
DV10-00545 01-25-2012:11:53:54 PM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1305862
FV11-03779 01-25-2012:05:21:58 AM Obj to Master's Recommendation Rejected
1305861
CV11-01955 01-25-2012:12:01:40 AM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1305860
CV11-01955 01-24-2012:11:50:19 PM Mtn to Retax Costs Filed
1305859
CV11-01896 01-24-2012:08:50:29 PM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1305858
CV11-01896 01-24-2012:08:35:22 PM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Rejected
1305855
CV11-01955 01-24-2012:08:19:41 PM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1305854
CV11-01955 01-24-2012:08:11:35 PM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1304286
CV09-00710 01-23-2012:06:30:42 PM Request for Submission Filed
1304285
CV09-00710 01-23-2012:06:22:36 PM Request for Submission Rejected
1304283
CV11-01955 01-23-2012:06:04:23 PM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Rejected
1304282
CV11-01955 01-23-2012:06:01:04 PM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1304281
CV11-01896 01-23-2012:05:59:48 PM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Rejected
1304280
CV11-01896 01-23-2012:05:56:40 PM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1302624
CV11-01955 01-22-2012:03:52:57 AM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1302623
CV11-01896 01-22-2012:03:11:02 AM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
1302622
CV11-01896 01-22-2012:02:59:11 AM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Rejected
1302617
FV12-00188 01-21-2012:02:37:55 PM Proof of Service Filed
1301031
CV11-01955 01-20-2012:07:26:28 AM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Filed
CV11-03628 01-13-2012:11:49:06 PM Supplemental ... Filed
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1296427
1296426
CV11-03628 01-13-2012:11:41:47 PM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1295293
CV08-01709 01-13-2012:07:18:30 AM Supplemental ... Filed
1293591
CV08-01709 01-11-2012:04:00:01 PM Reply to/in Opposition Filed
1292459
CV11-03051 01-11-2012:05:59:53 AM Request for Submission Filed
1292458
CV11-03051 01-11-2012:05:44:52 AM Mtn Clarification of Ord Filed
1292457
FV11-03779 01-11-2012:04:20:45 AM Points&Authorities Support Filed
1292456
FV05-04296 01-11-2012:01:47:03 AM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Filed
1291151
CV11-03051 01-10-2012:05:16:50 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
1291150
CV11-03628 01-10-2012:01:44:55 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
1291149
CV11-03126 01-10-2012:01:33:41 AM Mtn Proceed Forma Pauperis Filed
1291148
CR11-2064 01-10-2012:01:10:58 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
1289509
CV11-01896 01-06-2012:11:42:11 PM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1288127
CV11-03628 01-05-2012:10:49:42 PM Notice of Appearance Filed
1288126
CV11-03628 01-05-2012:10:42:08 PM Reply Filed
1284291
CV08-01709 12-31-2011:04:27:28 PM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Filed
1283238
CV11-03628 12-30-2011:08:40:15 AM **Continuation Filed
1283207
CV11-03628 12-30-2011:08:30:08 AM Mtn for TRO Filed
1276753
CV11-01896 12-22-2011:04:37:01 AM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1276020
FV11-03779 12-21-2011:01:55:21 PM **Continuation Filed
1275168
CV11-01896 12-21-2011:01:33:01 AM Mtn for Extension of Time Rejected
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1272290
CV11-01896 12-16-2011:10:24:24 PM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1272233
CV11-01955 12-16-2011:04:46:46 PM Mtn to Set Aside Decree Filed
1271082
CV11-01955 12-16-2011:12:33:32 AM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1270200
CV11-01896 12-15-2011:01:19:24 PM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1270149
CV11-01955 12-15-2011:01:03:05 PM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1269410
CV11-01896 12-15-2011:03:58:20 AM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1269409
CV11-01955 12-15-2011:03:55:07 AM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1269407
CV11-01955 12-15-2011:12:12:26 AM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1264734
CV11-01955 12-10-2011:04:29:30 AM Summons Filed Filed
1264733
CV11-01896 12-10-2011:04:28:10 AM Summons Filed Filed
1263487
CV11-01955 12-09-2011:06:25:37 AM Summons Filed Rejected
1263128
CV10-01341 12-08-2011:02:58:42 PM Notice Withdrawal of Attorney Filed
1263114
CV09-00710 12-08-2011:02:57:23 PM Mtn to Relieve Counsel Filed
1263108
ARB09-00710 12-08-2011:02:51:25 PM Errata Filed
1258270
cv1103051 12-05-2011:12:35:58 PM Appeal From Justice's Court Rejected
1252804
CV11-01955 11-30-2011:05:56:27 AM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1252803
CV11-01896 11-30-2011:05:55:02 AM Opposition to Mtn Rejected
1252802
CV11-01896 11-29-2011:11:45:02 PM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1252801
CV11-01955 11-29-2011:11:43:31 PM Opposition to Mtn Filed
1251182
CV11-01955 11-29-2011:12:50:10 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
CV11-01896 11-29-2011:12:48:39 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
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1251181
1251180
CV11-03051 11-29-2011:12:28:00 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
1251179
CV11-03126 11-29-2011:12:11:39 AM Request for Submission Rejected
1251178
CV11-03126 11-29-2011:12:00:26 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
1251177
CV11-03126 11-28-2011:11:50:01 PM Amended Answer Rejected
1250583
CV10-03675 11-28-2011:02:04:51 PM Errata Filed
1249687
FV05-04296 11-25-2011:12:21:16 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
1249686
CV10-01341 11-25-2011:12:05:21 AM Notice of Appearance Filed
1249685
CV09-00710 11-24-2011:11:50:08 PM Notice of Appearance Filed
1249684
CV10-03675 11-24-2011:11:45:07 PM Notice of Appearance Filed
1249683
ARB09-00710 11-24-2011:11:38:19 PM Not/Stay Pend BK Not All Deft Rejected
1249682
CV11-00820 11-24-2011:11:22:34 PM Notice of Appearance Filed
1246786
FV05-04296 11-22-2011:01:12:04 AM Mtn Ord Shortening Time Rejected
1246785
CV11-03051 11-21-2011:11:45:01 PM Mtn for Reconsideration Rejected
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To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-06-28 00:17:27.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: Filing ID 1102535 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) -
WT - Mtn Proceed Forma Pauperis, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State
of Nevada.
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn Proceed Forma Pauperis
Document Type: Complaint - Civil
Reason(s) for rejection:
This is being rejected for the following: 1) An IFP for this case has already been filed as of
6/27/11, you cannot re-submit a new one. 2) You cannot E-FILE an IFP. It needs to be
paper filed. 3) When e-filing documents, they must come in separately. and 4) Your
exhibits in your complaint need to be scanned separately (with there cover sheet) and sent
over as continuations to your PDF document. - Mia 328-3148
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-07-21 15:32:37.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: DV08-01168 - Marriage Dissolution Case: Divorce - Without
Children - DO - Master's Recommendation/Ord, was rejected by Second Judicial District
Court - State of Nevada.
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Case Number: DV08-01168
Case Type: Marriage Dissolution Case: Divorce - Without Children - DO
Document Type: Master's Recommendation/Ord
Reason(s) for rejection:
Orders needs to be hand/paper delivered to court for Judge to sign - Andrew @
328-3115
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-11-21 23:45:01.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-03051 - Appeal from Lower Court: Justice Court Civil
Appeal - CA - Mtn for Reconsideration, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court -
State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-03051
Case Type: Appeal from Lower Court: Justice Court Civil Appeal - CA
Document Type: Mtn for Reconsideration
Reason(s) for rejection:
Missing case number and dept number on pleading and you have a page 30 that is blank,
are you missing a page if not please remove for filing. Andrew @ 328-3115
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-11-22 01:12:04.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: FV05-04296 - Support/Custody/Visitation - CU - Mtn Ord
Shortening Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: FV05-04296
Case Type: Support/Custody/Visitation - CU
Document Type: Mtn Ord Shortening Time
Reason(s) for rejection: Missing motion/opposition form - Andrew @ 328-3115
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-11-24 23:38:19.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: ARB09-00710 - Arbitration - AZ - Not/Stay Pend BK Not All
Deft, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: ARB09-00710
Case Type: Arbitration - AZ
Document Type: Not/Stay Pend BK Not All Deft
Reason(s) for rejection:
In your body you have Peter Eastman - he is not part of this case please update for filing.
Andrew @ 328-3115
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-11-28 23:50:01.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-03126 - Other Civil Filing: Other Civil Matters - GC -
Amended Answer, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-03126
Case Type: Other Civil Filing: Other Civil Matters - GC
Document Type: Amended Answer
Reason(s) for rejection:
Zach sorry but the black box that you put on the upper right hand side of the pleading is
covering the new file stamp. Please move the box for filing. Also through the efling system
we don't have the ablitiy to stamp or mark as received. Thanks Andrew @ 328-3115
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-11-29 00:11:39.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-03126 - Other Civil Filing: Other Civil Matters - GC -
Request for Submission, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-03126
Case Type: Other Civil Filing: Other Civil Matters - GC
Document Type: Request for Submission
Reason(s) for rejection:
Zach when the motion is fixed please resubmit the request for submit - Andrew @
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-11-30 05:55:02.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Reason(s) for rejection:
Your exhibit one needs to be its own pdf file, then attached as a continuation to your
supplement. So after you enter in your supplement in eflex you browse and attach your
supplemental PDF and then press add then go back up top to your document category
drop down and pick "others" then in the document type will be "continuation" then you
browse and attach your exhibit one with cover page then press add and then submit your
filing. also you can look on our website and download the user guide for the eflex. Andrew
@ 328-3115
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-11-30 05:56:27.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
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Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Reason(s) for rejection:
Please make exhibit one its own PDF file and attach as a continuation to your
supplemental - Andrew @ 328-3115
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To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-12-05 12:35:58.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: cv1103051 - Appeal from Lower Court: Justice Court Civil Appeal
- CA - Appeal From Justice's Court, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State
of Nevada.
Case Type: Appeal from Lower Court: Justice Court Civil Appeal - CA
Document Type: Appeal From Justice's Court
Reason(s) for rejection:
Zach, please go to Reno Justice Court pay to the $216 for the filing fee, see Karen Stancil.
They in turn will send the money and the appeal to District Court for filing. Any questions
call Annie @ 328-3112.
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Date: 2011-12-09 06:25:37.0
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6 of 22 1/29/2012 12:39 AM
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Summons Filed, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Summons Filed
Reason(s) for rejection:
Pages within documents must be orginial. Please resubmit Summons with original
"affidavit of service" attached. Any questions call Annie @ 328-3112
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To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-12-15 00:12:26.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Document Type: Non-Opposition
Document Type: Non-Opposition
Reason(s) for rejection:
1.) Exhibits need to be sent over as continuations. 2.) Since the exhibits needs to be
attached into 2 continuation files please attach a second ?exhibit one? cover page on the
second continuation. Thank you, Matthew @328-3115
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Date: 2011-12-15 03:55:07.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Document Type: Non-Opposition
Reason(s) for rejection:
Each exhibit (with there cover page) needs to come over as a continuation. thanks - Mia
328-3148
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Thu 12/15/11 9:29 AM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-12-15 03:58:20.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Reason(s) for rejection:
Each exhibit (with there cover page) needs to come over as a continuation. thanks - Mia
328-3148
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
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To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-12-16 22:24:24.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Mr. Coughlin, On Friday 12/16/11, the court made an exception for the filing of your
exhibit in CV11-01955. The court did not receive the CD by noon as indicated in your
CV11-01955 filing. It will be necessary for you to submit the appropriate paper filing in
the filing office that contains your CD. In addition, this filing is being rejected as it does
not comply with WDCR 10(9) - A docoument cannot contain multiple documents in one
filing unless pleaded in the alternative nor does your filing comply with WCDR 10(6) -
Exhibits must contain divider pagers - exhibit 4 does not have a cover sheet. If you have
any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114.
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To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2011-12-21 01:33:01.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Mr. Coughlin, your filing is being rejected as it does not comply with WCDR 10(9) - A
document cannot contain multiple documents in one filing unless the document is being
pled in the alternative. If you have any questions please call Lori at 328-3114
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Mon 1/23/12 2:39 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-22 02:59:11.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn to Set Aside Decree, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn to Set Aside Decree
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
The document is being rejected due to the use of green font, as the font is not legible
upon reproduction of the filed document. Please resubmit document with a legible black
font. In addition, the Exhibit List Index displays on black background with green font.
Please resubmit the Exhibit List Index on white pleading paper with black font. Any
questions please call Lori at 328-3114.
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Mon 1/23/12 2:39 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-22 03:11:02.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Reason(s) for rejection:
The document is being rejected due to the use of green font, as the font is not legible
upon reproduction of the filed document. Please resubmit document with a legible black
font. In addition, the Proof of Service displays on black background with green font.
Please resubmit the Proof of Service on white pleading paper with black font. Any
questions please call Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Mon 1/23/12 2:39 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-22 03:52:57.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
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Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
The document is being rejected due to the use of an illegible black font . The font is not
legible upon reproduction of the filed document. Please resubmit document with a legible
black font. In addition, the Proof of Service displays on black background. Please resubmit
the Proof of Service on white pleading paper with black font. Any questions please call
Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Mon 1/23/12 2:59 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-22 03:52:57.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
The document is being rejected due to the use of an illegible black font . The font is not
legible upon reproduction of the filed document. Please resubmit document with a legible
black font. In addition, the Proof of Service displays on black background. Please resubmit
the Proof of Service on white pleading paper with black font. Any questions please call
Lori at 328-3114.
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Tue 1/24/12 1:27 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-23 17:56:40.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Reason(s) for rejection:
Page 13 of the document is a declaration. The declaration needs to contain the original
signature of the declarant. The Proof of Service does not comply with WCDR 10(1) Lines of
pages must be numbered in the left margin or on legal pleading paper. Any questions,
please call Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Tue 1/24/12 1:27 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-23 17:59:48.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn to Set Aside Decree, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
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Document Type: Mtn to Set Aside Decree
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Page 91 of the document is a declaration. The declaration needs to contain the original
signature of the declarant. The Proof of Service does not comply with WCDR 10(1) Lines of
pages must be numbered in the left margin or on legal pleading paper.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Tue 1/24/12 1:31 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-23 18:01:04.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Reason(s) for rejection:
Page 14 of the document is a declaration. The declaration needs to contain the original
signature of the declarant. The Proof of Service does not comply with WCDR 10(1) Lines of
pages must be numbered in the left margin or on legal pleading paper. Page 16 of the
document contains an Index of Exhibits; however, no exhibit was submitted with this filing.
Any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114
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To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-23 18:04:23.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn to Set Aside Decree, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn to Set Aside Decree
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Page 83 of the document is a declaration. The declaration needs to contain the original
signature of the declarant. Page is 86 of the document is blank. Is the document submitted
for filing complete or are you missing a page? If not please remove the blank page 86.
Any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Tue 1/24/12 1:35 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-23 18:22:36.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV09-00710 - Other Torts: Fraud/Misrepresentation - FM -
Request for Submission, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV09-00710
Case Type: Other Torts: Fraud/Misrepresentation - FM
Document Type: Request for Submission
Reason(s) for rejection:
The document does not comply with WCDR 10(1) Lines of pages must be numbered in the
left margin or on legal pleading paper. Any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114.
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Wed 1/25/12 11:47 AM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-25 05:21:58.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: FV11-03779 - UIFSA Case (formerly URESA) - UF - Obj to
Master's Recommendation, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: FV11-03779
Case Type: UIFSA Case (formerly URESA) - UF
Document Type: Obj to Master's Recommendation
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
The document does not comply with WCDR 10. Social security numbers and any financial
account numbers must be redacted from any documents filed with the court. If a social
security or account number is needed for identification purposes, all but the last four
digits of that number must be redacted from the pleadings and documents. Exhibit 2 of
document contains social security numbers and financial account numbers. Please redact
before resubmitting. All exhibits must be separated by a divider page and clearly marked
with an exhibit number at the top and bottom of the page. In addition, page 2 of Exhibit 2
is not legible, page 245 of Exhibit 2 is scanned upside down and a number of the
documents within Exhibit 2 appear to have been scanned at an angle. Please correct your
filing and resubmit for approval. If you have questions, please call Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Wed 1/25/12 11:59 AM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-24 20:35:22.0
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Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01896 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn to Set Aside Decree, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01896
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn to Set Aside Decree
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Document does not comply with WCDR 10. Lines of pages must be numbered in the left
margin or on legal pleading paper. If you have any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Wed 1/25/12 12:07 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-24 20:19:41.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Document does not comply with WCDR 10. Lines of pages must be numbered in the left
margin or on legal pleading paper. Exhibits must be separated by a divider page and
clearly marked with the exhibit number at the top and bottom of the page. If you have
any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114
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From: eflex@washoecourts.us
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To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-24 20:11:35.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Document does not comply with WCDR 10. Lines of pages must be numbered in the left
margin or on legal pleading paper. Exhibits must be separated by a divider page and
clearly marked with the exhibit number at the top and bottom of the page. If you have
any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Thu 1/26/12 9:11 AM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-26 06:03:39.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: FV11-03779 - UIFSA Case (formerly URESA) - UF - Obj to
Master's Recommendation, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: FV11-03779
Case Type: UIFSA Case (formerly URESA) - UF
Document Type: Obj to Master's Recommendation
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Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Document does not comply with WCDR 10. Social Security numbers and any financial
account numbers must be redacted from any documents filed with the court. If a social
security or account number is needed for identification purposes, all but the last four
digits of that number must be redacted from the pleadings and documents. Please refer to
page 17 of Exhibit 2. If you have any questions, please contact Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Thu 1/26/12 9:27 AM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-25 23:53:54.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: DV10-00545 - Marriage Dissolution Case: Divorce - With
Children - DC - Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State
of Nevada.
Case Number: DV10-00545
Case Type: Marriage Dissolution Case: Divorce - With Children - DC
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Reason(s) for rejection:
Document does not contain a Notice/Opposition form. If you have any questions, please
call Lori at 328-3114.
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To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-26 00:50:41.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Signature on documents must appear on the same document as the text. Lines of pages
must be numbered in the left margin or on legal pleading paper. Page 17 is not numbered
in the left margin. If you have any questions, please call Lori at 328-3114
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Fri 1/27/12 4:23 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-27 00:56:53.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: FV11-03779 - UIFSA Case (formerly URESA) - UF - Obj to
Master's Recommendation, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: FV11-03779
Case Type: UIFSA Case (formerly URESA) - UF
Document Type: Obj to Master's Recommendation
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
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Reason(s) for rejection:
The case number on the pleading does not match the case caption. Please resubmit your
documents with the correct case number. If you have any questions, please call Lori at
328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Fri 1/27/12 4:39 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Date: 2012-01-26 23:46:37.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: CV11-01955 - Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT -
Mtn for Extension of Time, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State of
Nevada.
Case Number: CV11-01955
Case Type: Employment Torts (Wrongful termination) - WT
Document Type: Mtn for Extension of Time
Document Type: **Continuation
Document Type: **Continuation
Reason(s) for rejection:
Signature on document must appear on the same document as the text. If you have any
questions, please call Lori at 328-3114.
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
Sent: Fri 1/27/12 4:47 PM
To: zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
To: Zach Barker Coughlin, Esq. zachcoughlin@hotmail.com
From: eflex@washoecourts.us
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Date: 2012-01-27 00:32:38.0
Subject: Your electronic filing, Re: DV10-00545 - Marriage Dissolution Case: Divorce - With
Children - DC - Opposition to Mtn, was rejected by Second Judicial District Court - State
of Nevada.
Case Number: DV10-00545
Case Type: Marriage Dissolution Case: Divorce - With Children - DC
Document Type: Opposition to Mtn
Reason(s) for rejection:
Document does not conform with WCDR 10 . The affirmation may be the last sentence
before the signature line on the document, stating that the document does not contain
the social security number of any person. If you have any questions, please contact Lori at
328-3114.
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I M.HAZLE11-S1EVENS: !wasnot, YourHonor.
2 1HECO\K1: M.CoughIn, ddyouscrvcacopyotthaton
3 thcCty?
4 M.CO\GHL!N: \h,YourHonor-
1HECOLK1: Youcanhavcascat. Youdon`tnccdtostand.
6 1hat`saIrght,thanks.
7 MK.CO\GHL!N: !placcdoncn- !wcnttothcCtyAttomcy`s
& Occthcrcandthcrc`slkcamctaIdropbox. !tmghthavconIybccntor
9 ncsthough.
1HECO\K1: Okay, wcII,Ictmcdoths. !`mgongto- !
1I rcvcwcdthsndctaIandspcntsomctmcIastwcckgongovcrt.
12 Lctmcaddrcssthc- bccauscwc`rcmakngarccord,!wantto
Inshupthstcmotunnishcdbusncss.
I4 1hcMotontoContnuc,Mr. CoughIn, sthatamotonyou`rc
stlIdcsrousotpursungthsmomng?
16 M.COLGHL!N: Ycs, sr.
I 7 1HECO1: AIrght.
I & MK.CO\GHL!N: !wouIdn`tmnd.
I 9 1HECO\K1. AIrght,!undcrstandthat. LctmcmakcaIttlc
btotthcrccordhcrc,ntcrmsotthcbackgroundotthscasc, swhy!` m
21 makngarccord.
22 OnNovcmbcr I 3
',Z011,Mr.CoughInwasarrcstcdbythc
23 KcnoPoIccOcparmcntandchargcdwthonccountoftrcspassng.
24 OnNovcmbcr14'
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pIcdnotguIty. 1raIwasthcnscttor Occcmbcr13
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Z thcCqAttomcy,aHIImotonswhat!`IIcaIIt,bascdonanabscnt
J wtncss. bcIcvcuwasM.Hll,notrcIatcdtothcHIImoton.
4 M.HAZLE11-S1EVENS: 1hat`sthcorgnaImoton,ycs.
5 1HECO\K1: 1hatwasnotopposcdbyOcfcndant`scounsclat
6 thctmc. AndonNovcmbcrZ'", !cntcrcdanordcrcontnungthctraIthc
7 Irsttmc.
5 1hctraIwasthcnrcsctfor !anuary `", ZZ. On!anuaq`,
9 ZZ, aMotontoContnucwasIcdbyM.Pucntcs,yourattomcyatthc
l O tmc. 1hcCtyAttomcyddnotobjcct.
11 On!anuary1`", !-wcII,prortothat,bctorcthcruIngonthat
1Z moton,on!anuary `", M.Pucntcs lcdaMotontoWthdrawasyour
1J attomcy.
1+ OnlcbruaryZ, ZZ, schcduIcda(naudbIc)hcarngon
thcMotontoWthdraw. 1hcmotonwasgrantcd, andM.Loomswas
l 6 appontcd.
l 7 Onlcbruary `", ZZ, youIlcd,M.Coughln,aMotonto
15 Vacatc,aMotontor Kcconsdcratontor KccusaI.
I 9 On!cbruaryZZ`, ZZ, anOppostontothcMotonwasIcd
ZU bythcCtyAttomcy.
Z 1raI,thcn at thatpont,wasuItmatcIyrcscttor AprI !'",
ZZ ZZ. OnMarchJ`", Z Z, Mr. CoughIn,youIcdamotonactually
ZJ captoncdnthcOstrctCourt,buttmadctscIt- tddmakctsclt
Z+ appropratctoourIIc.
25 OnMarchZ`,youlcdanothcrMoton-thcCtyIcda
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On!anuaryZ`", Z Z, cntcrcdanordcr,numbcronc,
dcnyngyourmotonthatwasIlcdonlcbruary `", ZZ. OnMarchZ `,
ZZ, !cntcrcdasccondordcrdcnyngyourMotontoOsmssthatwas
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AndthcnonAprI `", ZZ, !suspcndcdthcprocccdngs
bascdonacompctcncyssucthathadbccnrascdnthcOstrctCourt. And
thcnatthattmc,atyourrcgucst,M.Loomswasrclcvcdasyourattomcy.
OnAprIZO`", Z Z, nOstrctCourt,!udgcEIIot|toundyou
compctcnttostandtraI.
OnMay !V`", Z Z, !udgcEIIot|sgncdanOrdcrndngyou
compctcntandrcmandcdwhatcvcrcascwaspcndngnthc!ustccCourt
backtothc!ustccCourt,andthcn!rcscttral for !unc `", ZZ, today`s
datc.
OnMay1'", Z Z, !udgc Stcrrazzaassgncdthatcascnthc
!ustccCourttothcMcntaIHcalthCourt. OnMayZ+`", !udgcBrccn,thc
OstrctCourt!udgc,andthc!udgcrcsponsblctor thcadmnstraton- hm
and!udgcBIakc,oncofthctwo!udgcs,scntthccascbacktothcKcno
!ustccCourt.
1hcnon!uncJ', youIIcdthcmotonwc`rctalkngabout
now,ncIudngthcMotontoContnuc.
Sothscaschasbccnnowcontnucdtwcc. 1hcprocccdngs
havcbccnsuspcndcdoncc,aIInthcnormaIcourscandscopcotbusncss.
MotonsIcdbythcCty,motonsIcdbythcOctcndant.
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3 thctraItoday- today,on!unc ", atV: a.m. sctsomcIimtatonson
4 motons IIcdbythcpartcs. 1hoscmotonswcrcrcspcctcdand IcdtmcIy.
5 1crcsascrvccssuc|ha|wcdon`|nccd|oaddrcss|oday
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7 M4 HAZLE11-S1EVENS. !`mhappytorcspondtowhatcvcr
& moton, but!wasnotscrvcdwtht.
9 1HECO\K1. !orthcrccord, Mr.HazIct|-Stcvcns,whatsthc
I O Cty`spostononthcMotontoContnuc?
11 M4 HAZLE11-S1EVENS: !udgc,thcCtyopposcsthcMoton
l 2 toContnuc. 1hscascsgcttngprcttyoIdnow. Wc`rcgcttng- /! s
thcottcnscdatc,and!thnkt`spropcrtoactuaIIyprocccdtotraItoday.
Wc`vcrcsctthsthngmany,manytmcs. You`rcrght,nthc
15 normaIcourscotthngs,thcrcwcrcappropratcrcasonstorcsctthsthng.
I6 1hcCqhastswtncsscsprcscnt,rcadytor traIthsmomng.
l 7 !thnkwcshouIdmovcon,andcIosc|hscascupwhatcvcrway tgocs.
l & 1HECO\K1: Okay,andM.CoughIn,brcI!y,wouIdyouIkc
I 9 torcspondtothcCty`soppostontoyourMotiontoContnuc? And!do
2O mcanbncJ
2 l M4 CO\GHL!N. Ycs,YourHonor.
22 1HECOK1: !`vcrcadaIIyourbrcts. !`vcrcadcvcqthng,
and!`vcrcvcwcdthclcatgrcatIcngth, soljustnccdtoknowwhatyou`d
IkctosayaboutthcMotontoContnuc.
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N4 CO\GHLN. !don`tknowtIcan(naudbIc)mcSxth
Amcndmcntrghttoaspccdy. Ycah,twouIdbcncctohavcaIttIcmorc
tmctoprcparc,buttJcandothat.
1HECO\K1. Okay, wcII,wc`vcbccngvcnaIotottmcto
prcparc. 1hcsccascsnccdtobchcardnatmclytashon. Agan,thctmc
dcIayhasbccnnthcnormaIbusncssotthscasc. 1hcMotontoContnuc
sdcncd. WcarcgongtohavcthctraItoday.
1hatIcavcsuswththcsccondssucrascd,yourMotonto
Osmss,Mr.Coughln.
EsscntaIIy,asrcadthcMoton,thcaIIcgatonprmarIys
thatthcCompIanttaIcdtocstablshprobabIccausc,thatthcrcwasa
wamnggvcnandthatbascdonthatrghtthatyoutccIthccascshouIdbc
dsmsscd.
!sthatsubstancccorrcct?
N CO\GHL!N: YourHonor,yousadthcrcwasnowamng
gvcn?
1HECO\K1. No,!`mrcadngyourIanguagctromyourlcgal
argumcntthatsays,A)thatpagctwoot yourMotontoOsmss,thatthc
ComplanttaIstocstabIshprobabIccauscbccauscittaiIstoallcgcthat
thcrcwassuccntwamngnottorcmanonthcpropcrtyahcrbcngtold
nottodoso,and/orthatCoughlnddnothavcarghttobcthcrc. 1hat`sthc
basstor thcMotontoOsmss?
M.CO\GHL!N. Ycs.
1HECOK1. N.HazIct|-Stcvcns?
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M.HAZLL11-S1LYLNS: 1udgc,didnotrcccivcacopyo!
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that. NoncthcIcss,!wllarguctoday.1hcCtyopposcsthcMotonto
3 Osmss,asyoumghtmagnc,andtor thsrcason, onMarch21 `, 2012,ths
4 CourtcntcrcdanOrdcrnrcgardtoaprorMotontoOsmssthcCrmnal
5 CompIantprcvousIy.
6 1hsssuchasaIrcadybccnhcardanddccdcdonbyYour
7 Honor. YouactuallyhtthcssuchcadononthcMarch12'
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9 YouwllrccaIlthatthcCqwasn`tscrvcdpropcrIywththat
l O onccthcr,andthcrcwasanssuc. !opposc- !movctostrkcthcMotonto
I I Osmssnthatcasc.
12 You sadnotwthstandngthcscrvcc ssuc,youwouldrcach
l 3 thc ssucontsmcrts,dcnymcMotiontoOismissonthcIackotthc
I 4 suHccncyotthcCrmnaIComplant.
I 5 Wc`vcaIrcadyhcardthsssuc. !t`salrcadybccndccdcdon,
16 and!don`tthnkt`srghttohavctwobtcsatthcsamcapplc,!udgc.
17 1HECOU1. AIrght,M.CoughIn,yourrcsponsctothat? !
ib mcan,!`vcgvcnyouacouplcotbrcaksbccauscnotwthstandngallcgatons
I 9 thatthcCtyAttomcywasn`tpropcrIyscrvcd,!stlladdrcsscdthcmcrtsot
2O thcMoton,gvngyouabrcaknthatrcgard, and!`mdongthc samcthng
21 todaygvcnthcaIIcgatonthc Cqwasn`tscrvcdwththsMoton. Whats
22 yourrcsponsctoMr.HazIctt-Stcvcns` argumcntthatthccascshouldnotbc
23 dsmsscd? Agan,wccanmakcthsbrctbccausc!`vcrcvcwcdndctaIalI
24 thcplcadngsyou`vclcdnthsCour|,boththsmomngandlast!rday,so
goahcad.
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M. CO\GHL!N. Ycs,sr,YourHonor. Mr.HazIct|-Stcvcnss
rccountngot yourOrdcrnrcsponsctomycarIcrMotontoOsmssdttcrs
somcwhathommyrccoIIccton,aIthougadmttcdIy, !wshcd!`drcvcwcd
thatOrdcraIttIcmorccIcarIy.
Buttsccmstomcthatyoupcrhapsddnotgcttothcmcrts,
orthattwasnot- sotaImostsccmsasthoughyousadN.Loomswas
myattomcyandt`s nappropratc tor mctounIatcraIIydccdc. !`mgong
toappontmyscItasco-counscI,andthcnprcscntaMotontoOsmss.
So,!don`tknowtthatsIawotthccasc,orsomcthngnthat
rcgard.
!dorccaIIrcadngyourOrdcr,andrcspccttuIIy,!` IIsayths,
!ustaIt|Icbt- !hadputsomctmcntothatMotontoOsmss,and
yourOrdcrsccmcdtoInd t somcwhattrvoIous.
1HECO\K1: Sowhcncvcr!cntcranOrdcr, aIIthcIawycrs
know. Whcncvcr!cntcrsomcthng,haItthcpartcsnvoIvcdarcn
dsagrccmcnt, orarcunhappyordscontcntcdwthmyOrdcr.
So,movngthatasdc- movngthatasdc,!`vccntcrcdthc
Ordcrs. 1hcbassotthcMoton- otmyordcrdcnyngthcMotonwasthat
uIackcdIcgaI mcrt. 1hat`sadccsonmadcbythcCour|whchs
obvousIy- !IvcwththctactthathaItthcpartcsarc ndsagrccmcntcvcry
tmc makcaruIng. 1hat` smccrosstobcaryouhavcasa!udgc. !`vc
gottcnuscdtothat.
1hcMotontoOsmssn ths casc s gongtobcdcncd
bccauscthss an aIIcgatonthatuItmatcIygocstothc uItmatcssucottact
nthscasc,andwIIrscandtaIIonthcproototthcCty,orthcIackotthc
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prooIonmcLity. WhcIhcrornotmcrcwassumcicnIwminginthiscasc,
whichisanclcmcntofthctrcspasscasc,wc'lldcalwithattrial.
So,thcMotiontoDismissagainisdcnicd. ThcMoIionto
Supprcss,whatisit,M.Coughlin,thatyou'rcdcsiringIosupprcss? Ircad
mat,andIcouldn`trcallygurcthatout. Ididn'tsccanycvidcnccthaIwas
scizcdillcgally. Inrcvicwingallyourmotions,wouldyoulikctoaddrcssthc
MotiontoSupprcssbricy?
M.COUGHLIN. Ycs,sir,YourHonor. Ibclicvc,dcpcndingupon
howonclooksatit,thismighthavcbccnaFour|hAmcndmcntviolaIion,or
scizurcofpcrsonmaybc,inthatcithcranythinginthcpoliccrcpor|,or
anything-IknowN.Hillwouldn'tncccssarilybcastatcactorinvoking
onco!IhcscconstiIuIionalconccms,buttothccxIcnIhc`ssomcwhatacting
inconccrtwiththcpolicc,orhc'sIhconcsigningthcCriminalComplaint.
I IatcnmtsIillhasalcgalrigttobcsomcwhcrc,Ihclandlord
docsnothavcalcgalrightIowalkin,andkickdownadoor,andinviIcthcir
somcpoliccoccrs.
THECOURT. Okay,whatisitthatwc'rcscckingtosupprcss?
IsitiIcmsoIcvidcnccthatyou'rcarguingthatwasillcgallyobtaincd,orwas
itstatcmcntsbyyouthatwcrcobtaincdinviolationofyourFihh
Amcndmcntprivilcgc,yourMirmdaissucs? BccauscI'mnotsccingany
cvidcnccinthiscascthatwc'rclookingtosupprcss.
M.COUGHLIN. ThccntircpoliccrcporI. Anyknowlcdgc
oImybcingIhcrc. AnytcsIimonythaIMr. HilIoranyothcrpcrcipicnt
witncsscsmighIwishIoproIIcr.
23 THECOURT. Okay,thatmoIionisgoingtobc -
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THECOUT. Goahcad.
M. HAZLETT-STEVENS. -- myob|cctionbccauscl`dlikcto
makcanocrofprooffor thcob|cctionmcascofappcal.
I'lldrawYourHonor` sattcntiontothcOIuI8 0]^8Vudu V. Di//
Ncho/s. lt`saI 0casc. lt's I O6Ncv.65I , whcrcthcCourtsaid,"A
pcrsonwhoiscvictcdfromapropcrtynolongcrhasancxpcctationof
privacy." ThcrcisnoFourthAmcndmcntrightanymorcwhcnsomconcrc-
cntcrsapropcrtyacrcviction.
Itsays,"ThcStatccontcndsthatthcscarchrcspondcntno
longcrhadarcasonablccxpcctationofprivacyi nthcrcsidcnccaddrcss."
ThcStatcmaintainsthatrcspondcnt'ssubscqucntrc-cntrywasatrcspass.
It'svcry similartothiscasc,YourHonor,anddidnothingtorcstorcthc
rcasonablccxpcctationofprivacy. ThcCour|saidwcagrcc.
Thcrcisnocxpcctationof privacy. Ihardlycvcnthinkhchas
standingtobringthcissuc. Ccrtainly,thcrcisnoFour|hAmcndmcnt
violationhcrc,YourHonor.
THECOUT. I' mnotsccinganycvidcncc, andindccd,undcr
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Didyouhavcanydiscussionastowhcthcrornotthc
lcascallowcdIorthctcnanttobcpracticinglawatthatlocation?
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A Thcrcsidcntiallcascdidnotprohibitit. Wcdidcomc
2 toundcrstandthatyoudidn'thavcabusincssliccnsc,sowcdidn'tIcclthat
3 youwcrclawllyconductingabusincssinprcmiscs.
4 HavingrcvicwcdvirtuallycvcingthatyouhavcIlcdin
thatcasc,M.Coughlin, it'smyundcrstanding-
6 MP COUCHLIN. I' mgoingtoaskyounottogoonhcrc.
7 THEWITNESS. Thatyoudidnotraisc-
& M.COUCHLIN. 1ustanswcrmyqucstion,sir.
9 M HALETT-STEVENS. Iwouldlikchimtoanswcr- I
wouldlikchimto- 1udgc. Iwouldlikcthcattomcynottointcrruptthc
l I answcrtothcqucstion.
I2 THECOURT. N. Coughlin,youaskthcscqucstionsoIa
I 3 witncsswhcrcthcyarcopcncdcndcdqucstions. Thcyarcnot-
I4 M. COUCHLIN. !t'snotablankchcck.
THECOURT. Listcn,listcn. Whcnyoumcaskingopcncndcd
I 6 qucstions,andyouarcnotutilizinglcadingqucstionsoncross-cxamination,
l 7 thcwitncssiscntitlcdtoanswcrthoscqucstions,andyou'rcgoingtobc
l & stuckwiththcanswcr,andIthinkyouundcrstandthat.
l 9 So,Mr.Hill,goahcadandbricynishupwhatyouwcrc
saying.
2I THEWITNESS. Thankyou,sir.
22 Mr.Coughlin,youraiscd-youdidnotasscrtthatargumcntin
23 thc1usticcCourt.YouhavcappcalcdthccasctothcDistrictCourt,andmc
24 appcalhasbccndccidcdadvcrsclytoyou.
Thatcascisovcr,you'rcbound. It'sdonc.
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THECOURT. Okay, thankyou,M.Hill. M.Coughlin,ncxt
qucstion.
MR.COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir,YourHonor. Iapprcciatcthcpointof
cxpcrtisconaskinglcadingqucstionsoncross. ThatwassomcthingIwas
notintcndingtodo.
BYM.COUCHLIN.
Q M.Hill,you|usttcsticdthatinAugust,yourclicnt
andyouhadadiscussionastowhcthcrornotthclcascallowcdIora
commcrcalusc,isthatcorrcct?
A Mr.Coughlin,Irccallcxaminingthcdocumcntalmost
mmcdiatcly. WhcthcrIhadadiscussionornotwithmyclicntornot,I
don'trccall.
Q Ithoughtyoujusttcsticdthatyoudid,andyoutwo
|usttalkcdabouthowIdidn'thavcabusincssliccnsc. Wasthatnottruc?
A No,sir. No,sir. WhatIsaidwasthathc inIormcdmc
thatyouwcrcanattomcy. Atasubscqucnttimc,wccontactcdthcCityand
asccrtaincdthatyoudidnothavcabusincssliccnsc.
Q Okay,whcnyoucntcrcdthcpropcrtyinNovcmbcr-
M. HAZLETT-STEVENS. 1udgc,thatqucstioncxcccdsthc
scopcoI mydircctcxamination. Thcrcisnocvidcnccthathccntcrcdany
propcrtym Novcmbcr. Thatwas|ustnotpartofmydircctatthispoint.
THCOURT. Alright, Mr. Coughlin,M.Hill,insomc
substancc,hastcstiIcdthathcwascontactcdbyaclicnttocommcncc
cvictionprocccdingswhcrcyouwcrcarcsidcntbascdonanissucthat
primarilyconccmcdlackoIrcnt,andhcbcgantoIurthcruponthat
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assigncdIhcmallcrIoM.Bakcrinhiso0cc.
ThaI'slhccxIcnIoIhiscross-cxaminaIion,oIhisdirccI
cxaminaIion,raIhcr,andyourcross-cxaminaIionshouldbclimiIcdIoIhc
inIormaIionraiscdondirccI. So,I'mgoingIosusIainM.HazlcIt-SIcvcns'
objccIion.
TryIokccpyouinquirylimiIcdIo,quiIcIrankly,Ihcvcry
amounIoIlimiIcdinIormaIionprovidcdbyN. HillIhismoming.
M COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir,YourHonor. I'llIryIowrapIhisup
givcnmaIdicIaIcmaI!kccpiIIowhalwasbroughIupondirccl.
BYM COUCHLIN.
' M.Hill,yousaidyoucommcnccdancvicIion
procccding,oryouhadyourassociaIc,Mr.Bakcr,doso. WhaIlypcoI
cvicIionwaspursucd?
A IniIially,youwcrcscrvcdwiIha5-dayIailurcIopay
rcnIcvicIionnoIicc. AndIbclicvcyouwcrcalsosimulIancouslyscrvcd
wilha3O-daynoIiccIo quiI.
' WasIhaIsubscqucnIlywhaIwaspursucd?
A Idon'IundcrsIandyourqucslion.
' Wcll,youIcsIiIcdIhaIasm arycvicIionordcrwas
subscqucnIlyprocurcdbyyouro0cc.
A Ycs.
M HALETT-STEVENS. Idon'I- goahcad.
THECOURT. MyundcrsIandisIhcqucsIionisaskcdwhaI
procccdingsdidhccommcncc,andhccommcnccda5-dayIaiurcIopay,
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quit,isthatcorrcct?
THEWITNESS. Thatiscorrcct,sir.
BYM. COUCHLD.
Q Didyouro0icccvcntuallyconvcrtthattoanocausc
noticc?
A Ycs,thatdccisionwasmadc.
Q Why?
A Bccauscof yourantics. Wcdctcrmincdthatwcwcrc
goingtoprobablydobcttcrandcircumvcntalotoIyourIabricatcd
argumcntsbygoingdownthcnocausccvictionpathrathcrthanhaggling
withyouovcrallthclittlcpcttyissucsyouwcrcraisingandfabricating.
Q Whcnyousaypctqissucs,arcyourcfcrringtohaving
thcdcbilityissucs- noticcs,noticctocurc,and l 4-daynoticcs,and
(inaudiblc)statutcs?
A Whatyoucallhavingdcbilityissucs,sir,which1usticc
SIcrrazzaultimatclydctcrmincddidnotcxist,andyoudidnotprovc.
Q SoyouromccconvcrtcdittoanocauscsMary
cvictionnoticc?
A Morcprcciscly,sir,thcdccisionwasmadctoIorcgothc
rcntcvictionandsimplydoa3O-daynocausc.
Q Okay,andifsubscqucntlythctcnantwasconsidcrcda
commcrcialtcnant,wouldthatnotbctantamounttosortofawrongsidc
lcgalsurgcq?
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A Wcll,Idon'tquitcundcrstandyourmctaphor,sir.But
thc IactoIthcmattcrisitwasarcsidcncc. ThcIactthatyouwcrcillcgally
conductingabusincssthcrc,asidcissuc,numbcronc.
Numbcrtwo,youdidn'traiscitinthc1usticcCourt.
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Yousayitwasarcsidcncc. IsitzoncdIor|ust
rcsidcntialusc?
A Idon'thavcanyidca,sir.
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Wcll,whydidyousayitwasarcsidcncciIyoudon't
havcsomcthingtobascthatupon?
A That'swhatthclcascsaid,andthcrcwasnolawml
busincssbcingconductcd.
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Thclcascsaid- didthclcascsayacommcrcialuscwas
acccptablc?
A Idon'tknow,Mr.Coughlin.
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Wcll,howcanyoutcsti[towhatthclcascsaidiIyou
don'trccall?
A I'mgivingyoumybcstrccollcction,Mr.Coughlin.
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Okay,nowwhcthcrornotthclcasc-yousaidthc rst
thingyoudidwasyourcadthatlcasc.
A That'snotwhatI said.
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Wcll,didyousaysomcthingsubstantiallysimilartothat
carlicrwhcnyouwcrctcsti[ing?
A IsaidIalmostccrtainlylookcdatthcdocumcntalmost
immcdiatcly.
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2 youarcn'tsurcwhcthcrornotthclcascsaidsomcthingabouttbcing
3 commcrcialuscacccptablc?
4 Mw HALETT-STEVENS. 1udgc,hc'saskcdandanswcrcd
5 thatqucstionalrcady. Thcrc'snocvidcnccastothc6Ogrand(inaudiblc).
6 THECOURT. Ycah,that'sassumingafactnotincvidcncc.
7 I'mgoingtosustainthcob|cction.
& BYMw COUCHLIN.
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lO (inaudiblc)?
l I Mw HALETT-STEVENS. Ob|cction,rclcvancc.
I2 THECOURT. Sustaincd. It'sirrclcvant,M.Cough|in. I'vc
I 3 addrcsscdthatissuc.M.Hill'snancialarrangcmcntwithhisclicntis
l 4 irrclcvanttothistrcspassingcasc.
l 5 I ' mrcallynotlcgallyintcrcstcdinthcamountofmoncyhc
I6 billcdnorrcccivcd. Ithinkit'sirrclcvant.
I 1 M COUCHLIN. I'mnotoffcringtoprovcthctruthofthcmatIcr
I & asscrIcdinwhathcbillcd. I' moffcringit-
I9 THECOURT. I'mtcllingyouit'sirrclcvant. That'sa
2O hcarsay issucwhcthcrit'sbccno0crcdtoprovcthctruth, andquitc frankly,
2I I' mmakinga|udicialdctcrminationthathisrclationshipwithhisclicnt
22 rclatcdtonanccsisirrclcvanttothistrcspassingcasc.
So,I' mgoingtonotallowanyqucstionsrclatcdtothatlincof
24 inquiry. So,lct'smovcontoourncxtqucstion.
25 M COUCHIN. Ycs,sir.
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YM4 LUUUHIN.
2 Q WasIhcissucoIwhcthcrornotthclcascallowcdIora
3 commcrcialuscavcryimportantissucinthatsummarycvictionprocccding
4 omwhichIhiscriminalIrcspass(inaudiblc)?
A ArcyouaskingwasthatanimporIantconsidcrationin
6 mybcingablctoundcrIakcIhcassignmcnI? Thcanswcrisno.
7 Astowhatcxactlyyoudidorsaid- (inaudiblc- bothtalking).
& Q No,I' maskingyouiIitwasimporIantastowhcthcror
9 notitwaspcrmissiblctopursucasm arycvictionprocccdingiIit'sa
commcrcialtcnantwhcrcyouarconlyallcgingnon-paymcntoIrcnt.
I I THECOURT. IIyoucananswcrthat,M.Hill,goahcad.
l2 THEWITNESS. Ididn'Ihcarit, andI'mnoIsurcthatIcan
l 3 undcrstandit. ButiIyou'dlikcIotqagain,!'II-
I4 THECOURT. CoahcadandrcphrascIhcqucstion,Mr.
Coughlin. SpcakloudlyandclcarlyandM.HillwilldohisbcstIoanswcr
l 6 thaIqucstion.
I 7 BYM= COUCHLIN.
I & Q Wasitanimportantconsidcrationtoyouro0ccinthc
l 9 courscoIrcprcscnIingDr.Mcrlisswhcthcrornotthclcascagrccmcnt
allowcdIoruscoIthcprcmiscsIoracommcrcia|usc?
2I A No.
22 Q Youarctcsti[ingthatyouro0cc'srcprcscntationoI
23 Dr.McrlissdidnotincludcacarcmlconsidcrationoIwhcthcrornotIhc
24 lcasc allowcdIoracommcrcialuscoIIhcprcmiscs?
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l M4 HALETT-STEVENS. Askcdandanswcrcd,1udgc. Hc
2 saidno.
3 THEWITNESS. Thatwasn'tthcqucstion. Thcqucstionwas
4 whcthcr-
THECOURT. Igotthrccthingsgoingonhcrc,andwc'rc
6 makinganoralrccordsolct`strytokccpitciviltothccxtcntwc'rcablcto.
1 M.Hazlc|t-Stcvcnshasraiscdanob|cctiontothcqucstion.
& M.Coughlin,doyouwanttorcspondtothat?
9 MR.COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir. M.HazlcI|-Stcvcnssaiditwasaskcd
andanswcrcd,Ibclicvc?
l l M. HAZLETT-STEVENS. Ycs,thcrcwasanob|cctionaskcd
l 2 andanswcrcdahcrhcsaidnotothcprcviousqucstion,askcdslightly
l 3 diIIcrcntly.
THECOURT. What'syourrcsponsctoMr.Hazlctt-Stcvcns?
M4 COUCHIN. ItwasscckingclaricationbccauscIwas
l 6 surpriscdtohcarnotosuchanimpor|antissuc.
l 1 M4 HAZLETT-STEVENS. Surpriscdocsn'tovcrcomc.
l & THECOURT. Okay, asamaI|croIcIariIcation,sothcrccord
l 9 isclariIcd,askthcqucstionagain,andMr.Hill,lct'sscciIwccananswcr
thatqucstiontothcbcstoIyourability. Coahcad,M.Coughlin.
2l BYM+ COUCHLIN.
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23 animportantconsidcrationinrcprcscntingyourclicnttodctcrmincwhcthcr
24 ornotthclcascinqucstionwouldpcrmitcommcrcialusc?
A No, it'snotimportant. Wcwcrchircdtocvictyou, and
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Q Okay,soiIthclawhasancxprcssdictatcprohibiting
thcuscoIsM arycvictionprocccdingsagainstcommcrcialtcnantswhcrc
thcnon-paymcntoIrcntisnotallcgcdL scrvcdasancvictionnoticc,would
thatprcscntasituationwhcrcitwouldbcanimportantconsidcration?
A Mr.Coughlin,I'mhavingarcaltoughtimcIollowing
yourqucstion.
Q Okay.
THECOURT. Coahcadandrcphrascthcqucstion,M.
Coughlin.
THEWITNESS. You'vcmadcitinsmallpicccs.
THECOURT. Hangon,Mr.Hill. Rcphrascthcqucstion. Lct
mctcllyou,I'mgivingyouagcatdcaloIlccwayoncross-cxaminationin
Iaimcsstoyou,andwc`rcgcttingntoissucsmaIrcally,rcallycxcccdmc
scopcoIthcdircctcxamination.
AndI` mwillingtogivcyouagrcatdcaloIlccway,butat
somcpoint,thclccwaylimitationcomcstoancnd.
So,goahcadandaskoncmorcqucstionrclatcdtothis. Tryto
makcitspccic,mdIhcnM. HillwilldohisbcsItoanswcrmaIqucstion.
MR.COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir,YourHonor. 1ustquickly,I`malittlc
grccnonthis,buthcopcncdthcdoorquitcabit,too.
THECOURT. Coahcadandaskaqucstion,M.Coughlin.
BYM.COUCHLIN:
Q YoujusttcsticdthatyoudidnotIcclitwasan
imporIantconsidcrationwhcthcrornotthclcascallowcdIor commcrcial
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2 A Ycah,iIwasnoIIhaIimportanI.
3 Q Okay,woudiIbccomcimportanIiIyourcnIirccasc,or
4 IhcordcrwhchyouprcpmcdIoryourcicnIwasvoidbccauscIhcrcsno
5 jurisdicIionabasisIorcnIcringsuchanordcr?
6 A IIyourprcsumpIionswcrccorrccI,whichIhcy'rcnoI,
7 IhcniIwoudbccomcimporIanI. BuIsinccyou'rcwrong,iIwasnoI
8 importanI.
9 BcsidcsIhaI,youdidn`IraisciI.
I 0 Q WasIhcIacIthaIIhcpropcrqwasbcinguscdIor a
I I commcrciapuqoscscIIor|hinIhcIcnanI'saIIdaviI?
I 2 A Idon'Iknow.
I 3 Q Youdon'Iknow?
I4 A IdonoIrcca.
Q You|usIIcsIicdthaIiIwasn'Iraiscd,sohowcoud
I 6 youdothaIwiIhasIraighIIacc,andIhcnanswcryoudon`Irccanow?
\7 THECOURT. M.Coughin,hc'sanswcrcdIhcqucsIionIhaIhc
I 8 docsn`Ircca . YourcommcnIsbccomcargumcnIaIivcsocI`s-
I 9 Wc'rcgcttinginIoanarcawhcrcI ` mnoIgoingIoiIigaIcin
20 IhisCour|IhcmcriIsoIIhcandord/IcnanIrcaIionship,northc- uIimaIcy
2I IhcbasisIormccvicIion.
22 Mr.HihasIcsIicdIoaimiIcddcgrccwhaIhc'sdonc,andiI
youhavcanythngrccvanIIowhaIhcsad,goahcadandaskI. IInoI,I
24 thinkiIwoudbcagoodIimcIoIcrminaIcyourcross-cxaminaIionuncss
25 youhavcanyothcrrccvanIqucsIions.
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astorclcvancc.
M.COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir,andIapprcciatcyourfrustrationwith
2 thccxtcnttowhichcivicvictionlawsistakingupcriminalcourtrcsourccs,
3 andthat'sundcrscorcdinOIuI8 v. J0hn80n.
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TCOURT. No,lctmctcllyou,Mr.Coughlin. Youarcnot
5 goingtomisquotcwhatI'msaying. I'mnotustratcdbythatproccssatall.
6 I'mjustsayingthatitbccomcsirrclcvantinmyCourtwhcnyouhcarthis
criminalmattcr,thcdctailswhichhappcncdinthc1usticcCourt,ona
landlord/tcnantmattcr,andI` mnotfrustratcdoncbit.
9 M.COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir.
l 0 JECOURT. Tothccxtcntmat|crsarcrclcvantinthccriminal
casc,I' mgoingtohcarthcm,butasthcygcttobcmarginallyirrclcvant,wc
I 2 bcgintotakcuptimcthat'snotbcstscrvcdinthcCourt.
I 3 So,iIyouhavcanyothcrdircctrclcvantqucstions,goahcad,
I4 anddon'luIopulwordsinmymouthaboutwhatI' mthinking. Thank
I 6 M. COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir,YourHonor. Iapologizc.
I 7 BYM.COUCHLIN.
I 8 Q Mr.Hill,arcyouawarcoIacasccallcdOIuI8 v.
l 9 J0hn80n, mat' sZ Wcstlaw+J\+OOO whcrci nsomcoflhcproblcms
20 associatcdwithco-optingapoliccIorcc-
Z M. HALETT-STIVENS. 1udgc,I`mgoingtoob|cctalrcady
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23 THECOURT. LcthimInishthcqucstion. Coahcad,Mr.
24 Coughlin. Coahcadandnishyourqucslion. Mr.HatIc-Slvvcns,youcm
25 ob|cctatthcappropriatctimc.
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I M COUCHLIN. WhcrcinsomcofIhcproblcmsassociatcdwith
2 landlordco-opIingapoliccIorcctodocivillandlord/tcnanI-toaccr|ain-
3 ancIIcctoncivillandlord/tcnanIdisputcsisdiscusscdatlcngIh?
4 MR.HAZLETT-STEVENS. 1udgc, Iamgoingtoob|cct to
5 rclcvancc,andthcrc'snoIoundaIionIor IhcqucstioninthiscascaIallbascd
6 ondircctcxaminaIion.
7 THECOURT. Thatobjcctionissustaincd,M. Coughlin. I
8 don'tIhinkthaI' srclcvant.
9 MR.COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir,YourHonor. I` mtryingIowrapitup
I 0 hcrcwithaqucstionortwo,YourHonor.
I I IthinkIhaI'sallIhavc.
I 2 THECOURT. Thankyou,M.Coughlin. M.HazlcI|-Stcvcns,
I 3 anyrcdrccI?
I4 M4 HALETT-STEVENS. Nothing. Norcdircct,YourHonor.
I 5 THECOURT. M.Hill,mankyouvcrymuch. Youmayhavca
I 6 scat. Thankyou,sir. Alright.
MR.HALETT-STEVENS. ThcCitycallsCascyBakcr.
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rulcoIcxclusion?
THECOURT. I'mgoingto -
M HAZLETT-STEVENS. It'stoolatc,YourHonor.
THCOURT. No,I' mgongtogoahcad- isthataIact? Or
docsIhcCour|havc itsdiscrcIion?
M HAZLETT-STEVENS. IIis. IthastobcinvokcdaIIhc
bcginningoIthcIrial. Youcan'IhamsIringoncwiIncssandprc|udicconc
lQc -5I-
l siJc by ioVokiog i| miJwy hrough mc |r||. !| hs |o bc |ovokcJ | |hc
2 bcg|oo|og ol |r||, Your Hooor.
J 1 COUKT: M.Cough||o7
4 M COUGHL!N: Mr. H|c||-S|cvcos |s vcry cxgcr|coccJ
5 ||||g|or io |h|s rcgaJ, so ! Joo`| hvc oym|og |o rcbu| |h|. ! Joo`| koow
6 whc|hcr |h|`s Ihc csc or oo|.
7 TCOUKT: Oky, |hok you. Go hcJ. Th| rcgucs| wi||
8 bc Jco|cJ.
9 M.Bkcr, |c|`s gc| you swom |o.
I O (Wi|ocss Ju|y swom).
I I THL COUKT: Thok you, M.Bkcr. Hvc sc|. A|r|gh|,
I 2 M. H|cu-S|cvcos, go hcJ.
I3 MK. HALLLTT-STLVLNS: Thok you, Your Hooor.
I 4 CASEYAKEK
15 c||cJ s w|mcss, hv|og bcco Ju|y swom,
I 6 |cs||tcJ s lo||ows:
l 7 O!KLCT LXAM!NAT!ON
I 8 BY M4 HALLLTT-STLVLNS.
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' GooJ momiog. Cou|J you g|csc s||c your omc, oJ
20 sgc|| your |s| lor |hc rccorJ7
2I A Cscy Bkcr, B-A-K-L-K.
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' Arc you cmg|oycJ, sir7
2J A Ycs.
24 Wh|`s your grolcss|oo or occug|ioo7 '
25 A !`m o ssoci|c ||omcy |o KichrJ H|||`s oHcc.
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2 A SinccOctobcroIZJ.
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4 Hill?
A Istar|cdwithM.HilIwhcn Inishcdlawschoolin
6 1unc,ZJ. IwasthcrcIor thrccycars. IlcIor about1\ months,camc
7 back,andbccnthcrccvcrsincc.
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9 at|omcyatthcLawO0ccsoIRchardHill?
A WhcnM.Hillassigsmccascs,Ihandlcthosccascsto
! ! thcbcstoImyabili. hmdlcsomcoIthcintakcIorncwcascs,iIthccIicnt
I 2 contactsouro0ccorcontactsmcdircctly,andM.Hillisnotavailablc.
I 3 IassistM.HillwithsomcoIthccascshc'shandling.
' Okay,thankyou. AnddopartoIyourduticscntail
landlord/tcnantlaw?
l 6 A Ycs.
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I 8 withlandlord/tcnantissucs,doyouknow?
I 9 A Itvarics. Ccncrallyspcaking,whcnlandlord/tcnant
cascscomc intoouro0cc,thcyIndthcirwaytomc.
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22 A Dr.Mcrliss'scascoccupicdasubstantialamountoImy
23 timcIor thcpastscvcralmonths.
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cascassociatcdwithDr.McrIiss?
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IsthatinRcno?
Ycs.
WhcnabouIwcrcyouassigncdtohandlcIhaIcasc?
IbclicvcitwasthccndoIAugust,2OII .
Okay, andwhatwasyoursignmcnI? DidM.Hill
comcIoyouandassignIhaIcascIoyou?
I I A EvicIM.Coughlin.
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I 3 CoughlinomthaIrcsidcncc?
A Idid.
' HowdidyougoabouIdoingthat?
I6 A IIwasmyundcrstandingthatIhcrcwasrcntduc,pasI
I 7 duc,omM.Coughlin.
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I 9 A Ahcrrcvicwingthclcasc,IalsodctcrmincdIhatM.
CoughlinwamonIh-Io-monmIcnanIbccauschislcaschadcxpircd.
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22 A IbclicvcinFcbruaryoI2OI I . Undcrthosc
23 circumsIanccsandinthiscasc,gcncral pracIiccisIobcginbothprocccdings,
24 a5-daypayorgctoutprocccding,anda3O-daynocausc. ThaI'swhatIdid.
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2 A Corroct.
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4 paporsonthorcsidoncoat Z RivorRock?
5 A Thowayitworks-thoanswortothoquostionisyos.
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7 CourI? IsmatwhonyoudothatsimuItanoously?
8 A ThowayHworksisyouhavothonoticossorvodIrst.
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I 0 A Forinstanco,withtho4-daypayorvacatonotico,tho
I I tonantthonhasvodaystocomodownandcommoncothoprocoodingintho
I 2 1usticoCour|byIlinganA0davit.
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A That'ssor|oIwhatM.Coughlindid.
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I 6 Cour|,corroct?
I 7 A That'scorroct. M.Coughlincontostod- Iboliovoho
I 8 contostodbothmattors.
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20 A Wohadashorthoaringwith1udgoSIonazaontho5-
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23 rocall.
24 A ThatwasoarlyOctobor.
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3 A BocausoM.Coughlinwas, asMr.Hillstatod,howas
4 Iabricatingallthosoissuos. Wodidn'twanttodoalwiththat.
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6 A WodocidodthopathoIloastrosstanco,Iboliovoistho
7 tormwoactuallyusodinonooIourploadingpapors,wastosmplysotthat
8 asidoandcontinuowiththo3O-daynocauso.
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I 0 A Andthat'swhatwodid.
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I2 upboIoroajudgointho1usticoCourt,corroct?
I 3 A 1udgoSIorrazza. Ourhoaringonthat, ourIrsthoaring
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3 A 1udgoSIorrazzagotintothostatutosandthostatuto
4 roquirosthatiIaIonanIisgoingtoassortadoIonsobasodonhabitabiliq,
5 thonthoIonantisroquirodtodopositrontintoaCourImaintainodoscrow
6 accountinordorIor himtoprocoodwiththosodoIonsos.
7 ThaIwasIhoordorthatcamooutoIthathoaring.
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' Okay,soOctobor I 31udgoSIorrazzasays,"IIyou
9 wantIoaddrossthohabitabilityissuos,younoodtodoposit-younoodIo
I0 oscrowacortainamountoImonoyinordortoovonhavothoabiliIyIo
I I addrossthosoissuos."
I 2 IsIhaIbasicallywhathapponod?
I 3 A ThaIiscorrocI. And1udgoSIorrazzarIhorordorodiI
I 4 Mr.CoughlinworonoItodoposiIthatmonoy,thoovictionwouldbograntod.
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I 7 A No,hodidn't.
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I9 causooviction?
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22 A ThatoccurrodonOcIobor25!
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23 THECOUT. I'msorry?
24 THEWITNESS. Octobor25!
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25 1 COUT. Thankyou.
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Andcanyou|ustbrioygivothoCourIanovorviowoI
whaIactuallyhapponodatIhoOctobor25!" hoaring?
A Yos,IhopurposooIIhoOctobor25!
" hoaringwasto
allowM.CoughlntosubstantiatodoIonsoshohadrasodnthoOctobor
' RogardinghabiIability?
A Corroct.
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Goahoad.
A So,thorulngwasthatiIM.CoughlnputsIhomonoy
intothooscrowaccounI,Ihonwo'rogoingIobobackonOcIobor25!
andho
canattompttosubstantiatoIhodoIonsoaIthattimobyphysicalovidonco.
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Okay.
A WohadahoaringonOctobor25'" thaItookallday. At
thoondoI thohoaring,1udgoSIonazzatookashortbroak,thonhocamo
backintothoCouruoomwhorohoannouncodhisFindingsandFacts,
ConclusionoILaw,andgrantodIhooviction.
' Okay,wasMr.Coughlinprosontduringthatontiro
procooding?
A Yos,howas.
M8 COUGH!lN. Ob|oction,YourHonor,rolovancy.
Me HAZLETT-STEVENS. 1udgo,itgoostonoIico.
THECOURT. ltdoosgotonotico,M.Coughlin.
M. COUGHL!N. Noticoincriminallawsonsoorcivillawsonso?
Thissanovcton.
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I 1HL COUK1. WcII, !`m gong to tcII you rght now, t gocs to
2 notcc n thc crmnal Iaw scnsc as to whcthcr or not you had notcc ot thc
3 cvcton ordcr hcng cntcrcd.
4 That`s vcry rcIcvant, and !`m gong to aIIow that qucston Io
5 hc askcd and answcrcd.
6 - M. COUCHLIN. But notcc n a crmnal Iaw scnsc cnIals an
7 anaIyss ot whcthcr thc cvI notcc and scrvcc ruIcs wcrc sct torth suHccnt
& to ssuc a Icgtmatc wang.
9 THL COUK1. !n ths casc, thc ssuc - onc ot Ihc ssucs n ths
I O casc s whcthcr or noI you had notcc ot thc cvcIon that was ultmatcIy - t
I I sounds.Ikc was ordcrcd hy 1udgc Stcrrazza, and so I`s a drcct mportanI
I 2 ssuc n thc casc, and so !`m gong to aIIow thaI qucsIon to hc askcd and
I 3 answcrcd.
I4 BY MK. HALLTT-STLVLNS.
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Mr. Bakcr, was Mr. CoughIn prcscnt dunng thc porton
I 6 otIhc hcarng acr 1udgc Stcrrazza rcIumcd to thc Courtroom and granIcd
I 7 Ihc cvcton?
I & A Ycs, hc was. Hc was sttng at thc samc tahIc hc`s
I 9 sIIng at now on IhaI sdc ot thc Couruoom.
2O M. COUCHL!N: !`m sorry, Your Honor, t ! couId just quckly
2I nIcrjcct. You`rc not making a ruIng - t's jusI t! can cIarq, on thc ssuc
22 ot - t sccmcd to mc, sr, that you sad t`s rcIcvanI, huI t ddn`I sccm
ncccssarly you madc a Iaw ot thc casc or a ruIng to say, a wamng s not
24 hascd upon a cvI sIandard ot scrvcc ot an cvcton noIcc. That s stlI a
25 maI|cr that`s up tor argumcnt.
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1hat`s whcrc wc arc rghI now.
1 COK1. My ruIng was s Ihat M. HazIcII-SIcvcns askcd
2 a qucstion Ihat was rclcvant, and got a rcIcvant answcr, and !`m not making
3 any ruIngs on anything cxccpI thc tact that thc answcr was you wcrc prcscnt
4 in thc 1usIicc CourI whcn 1udgc Stcrrazza madc a ruling.
Me COGHL!N. Okay, thank you, Your Honor.
6 1H COU1.
7 BY MK. HAZLL11-S1LVLNS.
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Can you pIcasc dcscribc what M.CoughIn was
9 acIuaIIy dong n thc CourIroom whIc M.- cxcusc mc, 1udgc Stcrrazza
was ssuing hs ruIng?
l I A Hc was sttng at thc samc Iablc hc`s stIng aI now.
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I 3 A And siIIing back in his chair and Iistcning.
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A Hc was Istcnng. Hc was noI taking notcs. ! know Ihat
I 6 bccausc ! gIanccd ovcr. Hc wasn'I taking noIcs.
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l 9 Me HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. May Iapproach thc wtncss, Your
Honor?
2I 1HL COK1. You may.
22 BY Me HAZLL11-S1LVLNS.
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M.Bakcr, can you Iakc a Iook aI that documcnt? !I`s
24 bccn markcd as C|`s I .
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4 A This s thc Lvcton and ccson Ordcr signcd and
5 ssucd hy 1udgc S!crrazza on Octohcr 25'" aI 5: 1 p.m.
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' And is Ihcrc any ndcation in IhaI Ordcr that thc
7 cvction was grantcd?
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l 0 A And I`s in CAFS. Thc rsI Inc, thc trst two words o!
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And whcn docs it announcc that thc cvcIon is
I 1 cHcctivc?
I 4 A L!!ccIvc Octohcr JI , 2O! ! , aI 5. OO p.m.
l 5 THL COKT. You said, !`m sony, OcIohcr ?
I 6 THL W!TLSS. Octohcr J !, 2O! I, aI 5:OO p.m.
! 7 THL COKT: Thank you.
I & BY MK. HAZLLTT-STLVLNS:
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Now, did M.CoughIin cvcr, durng that Iong all day
20 procccding, movc !or a stay acr 1udgc S!crrazza announccd mat thc
2I cvicIon was grantcd?
22 A ! hcIcvc thc (naudhIc).
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2 dccson on whcthcr thc stay s cthcr gantcd or dcncd?
3 A Ycs, thc Iast lnc ot thc dccson says, "Tcnant`s vcrhaI
4 moton to stay, dcncd.
5 MR. HAZLLTT-STLVLNS. Thank you. Your Honor, thc Cty
6 movcs to admt what`s hccn markcd as Cty`s , and Imovc that nto
7 cvdcncc undcr 5O(h). !25. That`s a ccrt!cd puhIc documcnt, a scIt-
& authcntcatcd documcnt, !udgc.
9 THL COURT. M.Coughln, any ohjccton?
M4 COUCHL!N. Rclcvancy.
I I THL COURT. Okay, Ithnk t's vcry rcIcvant, and thc ohjccton
I 2 s ovcrrulcd, and Cty`s Lxhht No. ! wll hc admttcd nto cvdcncc.
M^ HAZLLTT -STLVLNS. Thank you, Your Honor.
BY MR. HAZLLTT-STLVLNS.
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Now, dd 1udgc Stcrra//a ordcr anythng cIsc n that
procccdng aHcr hc grantcd thc moton - or thc cvcton?
A Ycs.
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What dd hc ordcr?
l 9 A At that pont, whcn thc 1udgc announccd hs !ndngs
20 ot !act and ConcIusons ot Law, IoHcrcd, "1udgc wouId you Ikc mc to
2I prcparc thc Fndngs ot Iact and ConcIuson ot Law and Ordcr tor
22 Lvcton?
23 Iottcrcd that hccausc that s customary, and Ihclcvc thcrc s a
Z4 ruIc n strct Court, 1thnk t`s Rulc , that thc prcvaIng par prcparcs t.
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At that pont, 1udgc Stcrrazza sad, "!nc, you guys cach prcparc onc. Gct
thcm Io mc by noon on 1hursday, thc 2T'" and IwII sgn onc at Ihat tmc.
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Okay, and dd you go abouI prcparng your !ndngs ot
!acts, ConcIusons ot Law, and Ordcr ot Summary LvcIon?
A Ycs, Idd.
' So, 1udgc Stcrrazza, wc ddn`t rcaIIy gct nto ths,
actuaIIy cnIcrcd !ndngs ot !acts and ConcIusons ot Law on thc rccord as
hc was announcng hs dccson?
A Ycs, hc dd.
MK. HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. Your Honor, may ! havc ths
markcd Cty`s 2?
1HL COUK1. Ycs.
(!naudbIc dscusson).
1HL COK1. Why don`t wc do this. 1ust go ahcad and makc -
M HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. You know, Your Honor, !`m happy
to provdc copcs. ! actuaIIy havc cxtras.
1HL COK1. Fcrtcct, thank you, Mr. HazIctt-Stcvcns.
M HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. CcrtanIy.
1HL COK1. 1hcsc wcrc prcvousIy provdcd n dscovcry?
M.HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. 1hcy wcrc prcvousIy provdcd n
dscovcq.
1HL COUK1. WcII, wc`II gvc hm anothcr copy today so wc
havc a copy. Grcat, thank you vcry much, M.Hazlctt-SIcvcns.
1HL COK1. CcrIanIy, 1udgc.
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2 agan?
3 1HL COU1. Ycs.
4 BY M.HAZLL11-S1LVLNS.
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Mr. Bakcr, can you takc a Iook at whaI`s hccn markcd
6 as Cty`s 2?
7 A Okay.
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I l A 1hcsc arc thc !ndngs of !act, Conclusons of Law and
I2 Ordcr for SM ary LvicIon that ! prcparcd foIIowng thc Octohcr 27!
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A ! hcIcvc t was on Ihc 2!
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l 7 A Bccausc 1udgc Sfcrrazza wanIcd it on thc 27!
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A Ycs.
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d you scnd a copy to anyonc? !t couId cithcr hc of
2l cmaI, mail, or any othcr form of ths maIng?
22 A ! scnt an orgnaI down, or a copy, down to thc
23 Cour|housc Io 1udgc Sfcrrazza.
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A Okay.
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pagc tvc?
I 8 A 1hat, on approxmatcIy Inc Z , that`s whcrc t hcgns
I9 thc ordcr Ior summaq cvction.
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2I attcnton to pagc sx, s thcrc a datc that`s givcn Ior thc cvcton, thc tnal
22 cvcton?
23 A Ycs, what l qpcd was mat Mr. CoughIn - ths is on
24 Iinc 4, M.Coughlin was to hc -or thc ShcrI was Io rcmovc anyonc Iound
25 thcrc hy no Iatcr than Octohcr J , Z . 1udgc SIcrrazza madc somc
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2 addcd "aI . p.m. And 1udgc S!crrazza nIaIcd hs changcs thcrc.
3 M.HAZLL11-S1EVLNS. 1hc CIy movcs Io admt what`s
4 hccn markcd as Cty`s 2,agan undcr 52. I25,nto cvdcncc.
1 COKT. M.CoughIn, any ohjccIon?
6 M.COCHLlN. No, Your Honor.
7 1HE COK1. Okay, thank you sr. Cty`s No. 2 wII hc
& admUcd nIo cvdcncc. 1hank you.
9 BY M.HAZLL11-S1EVLNS.
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So, that documcnI actually gavc a daIc otthc cvcton
ii acr whch -s maI corrccI?
I 2 A That`s corrcct.
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l 4 Ihcrc, s maI corrccI?
A 1hat`s corrcct.
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So, Ihc !ndngs o! !acIs, Conclusons o! Law and
l 7 Ordcr o! LvcIon tound n your !avor, M. McrIss`s !avor, rathcr, and thc
l & daIc ot cvcIon was as ot Octohcr J ` aI J: p.m., corrcct?
I 9 A 1hat`s corrcct. 1hat`s whaI wc announccd n Court and
puI on maI !ndngs o! !acI.
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22 could hc rcmovcd, s IhaI corrcct?
23 A 1haI was mc command gvcn to 0c ShcrH.
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' "Shall hc rcmovcd.
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2 Iashion? ANoIiccoIEntryoIOrdcrorany|hinglikcthat? Orwthat
3 scrvcdbyIhcCourIonhim?
4 A ThcwayitworksisthcCourI-ahcrthcCourtcntcrs
5 thcOrdcr,IhcCour|IorwardsittothcShcriII
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7 A AndthcShcriIIgocsoutandcnIorccsIhcordcr.
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9 oINovcmbcr!J'", Z .
I 0 THECOURT. WhatwasthatdaIcagain?
I I M.HAZIETT-STEVENS. Novcmbcr J, Z , YourHonor.
I2 THECOURT: Okay,givcmcjusIasccond,counscl.
I 3 MR.HAZIETT-STEVENS. Ccrtainly,1udgc.
I 4 THECOURT: I' mmakingsomcnotcshcrcrcgardingsomc
I 5 daIcs.
I 6 M.HAZIETT-STEVENS. AndI' mgoingtowiIhdrawthat
I 7 qucsIion,YourHonor, soiIyoudon'twant to|oIIhaInotcdown,youdon't
I & havctoaIthispoinI.
I 9 THECOURT. Okay,I' mlookingatsomcthingclsc,okay. Co
20 ahcad. Thankyou,counscl.
2 I BY MR.HAZJETT-STVENS.
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' I`mgoingtodrawyourat|cntiontothcdatcoI
23 NovcmbcrI'', Z . DoyourccallwhatyouwcrcdoingIhaIday?
24 A Ycs,IwasacIuallyoIIoIworkIhaIday. IwasaIhomc.
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A BuI ! was hascaIIy on stand-hy hccausc ! kncw that thc
cvcIon was gong to happcn.
' Okay, and dd you acIuaIIy cvcnIuaIIy rcspond or havc
Io comc to thc arca ot !2! Kivcr Kock?
A Ycs.
' Why?
A 1hc way I works, agan, !`m sorry Io kccp dong ths.
' Flcasc, pIcasc, plcasc, you arc cducatng us all.
A You havc to wat tor thc ShcritI Io contact you.
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Okay.
A 1hc ShcrtIs cputcs arc scnI ouI wIh scvcraI ot thcsc
thngs on thc days IhaI thcy do thcm, howcvcr, Ihcy do thcm cvcry day. You
can Iry Io shoot tor a spcctc tmc, hut you arc aI thc mcrcy ot thc ShcrtIs
cpuIy`s schcduIc. Somc Iockouts takc Iongcr than othcrs. 1hcy Iq to gvc
you Icad tmc.
! had spokcn wIh thc ShcrtIs cpuIy aIrcady, ! hcIcvc, on
!rday Ihc 28".
' Okay.
A ! hcIcvc. !t was cIhcr that, or ! contactcd hm on hs
cclI phonc. But ! camc hack n (naudhlc) do Ihc lockouts.
1HL COK1. !`m sorry?
1HL W!1NLSS. ! camc hack n so wc couId do thc IockouI, Io
mcct thc ShcrtIs cputcs at thc propcrg acr thc Shcrft cals.
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' And wcrc Ihcrc ShcrtIs cputcs thcrc?
A ! got thcrc rst.
' Okay.
A Along wIh a mcmhcr ot our sIatt.
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Okay.
A And thcn Iwo Shcrs cpuIcs arrvcd.
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Okay.
A And mcn wc had to wat tor thc Iocksmth.
' Okay, whcn thc Shcrs cpuIcs arrvcd, dd thcy
havc any documcnIs n thcr hand?
A ! hcIcvc thcy had - ycs, thcy had thcr copcs ot thc
!ndngs ot !act, and Ordcr tor Summary Lvcton.
' Okay, and do you rccaII what thc dcputcs, or onc or
hoIh ot thosc dcputcs dd wth thc !ndngs ot !acts md Ordcr ot LvcIon?
A Ycs.
' PIcasc tcll.
A Oncc -Ihc short answcr s thcy takc you to thc door.
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A ! can tcII you thc proccss, t you wanI.
' PIcasc, IcII us whaI happcncd.
A Whcn thc locksmIh naIly arrvcd, thc Shcrtts hang
on thc door, announcc thcr prcscncc, "Opcn up, polcc, shcrH.
Thcrc was no rcsponsc. At that pont, cvcryhody stands hack.
Thcy gct thc Iocksmth to go ahcad and opcn thc door. Hc opcns thc door.
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1hcn Ihcy camc hack ouI and thcy tapc I Io thc door.
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Okay, and you sad Ihc locksmIh was Ihcrc, Ioo?
A CorrccI.
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WhaI dd Ihc locksmIh do?
A Thc locksmth, hs rsI task was Io opcn Ihc tronI door.
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A ARcr hc dd thaI, and acr Ihc ShcrtI clcars Ihc
propcrty, Ihcn hc changcs thc locks, rc-kcys Ihc locks.
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A On thc tronI door and thc hack door.
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Okay, and whaI dd thc - wcrc Ihcrc ncw kcys
assocaIcd wm rc-kcyng thc locks?
A Ycs.
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WhaI dd Ihc locksmIh do wth Ihc ncw kcys?
A Gavc Ihcm Io mc.
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Okay.
A !I was cIhcr mc, or Shcq Hll, who was also wIh mc
trom my occ. thnk hc gavc Io mc.
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!'m sorq?
A ! Ihink hc gavc Ihcm Io mc.
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Okay, and so thus, Ihc old kcys IhaI wcrc tormcrly
assocaIcd wiIh thaI lock would no longcr work, s IhaI conccI?
A ThaI`s my undcrsIandng.
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2 door?
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6 A 1hcrc wcrc no othcr outsidc cntq doors.
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& cxccutcd any othcr documcnts whilc hc was thcrc? An Adavit ot Scrvicc
9 or anything Ikc that, do you rccall?
l O A I don`t know.
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I2 tapcd on thc hont door, this -pagc !indings ot !act and ConcIusions ot
I 3 Law that`s aIrcady hccn admittcd into cvidcncc, thc City`s 2?
I 4 A 1hat`s corrcct.
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I6 door? Or just thc hont door? o you rccalI?
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l 9 Mo HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. No rlhcr qucstions tor this
2O witncss, Your Honor.
2l 1HL COK1. AIrght, thank you.
22 M.CoughIin, any qucstions on cross-cxamination?
23 M4 COCHL!N. Ycs, sir, Your Honor.
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Q Cood aRcmoon, M.Bakcr. You just tcsticd that thc
Ordcr says that thc tcnant shaII bc rcmovcd at somc pont, is that corrcct?
A ! don`t think that was my tcstimony. ! thnk my
tcstmony was that thc Ordcr commands thc Shcrtt to rcmovc whocvcr hc
nds thcrc.
Q And by Ordcr, you mcan ths onc that you prcparcd and
1udgc Stcrrazza sgncd?
THE COUKT. Lct`s rctcr to thc documcnts that wc havc n
cvdcncc. ! bcIcvc, Mr. CoughIn, you arc rctcrrng to Cty`s Exhbt 2. !t
that`s not corrcct, Ict mc know. !tt`s on thc rccord, it`s cIcar. That makcs
spccc rctcrcncc to documcnts that arc n cvdcncc.
MK. COUCHL!N. Ycs, sr, Your Honor.
THE COUKT. Co ahcad and ask that qucston.
BY M. COUCHL!N.
Q So, that wouId bc Exhbt 2,!ndings ot !act,
ConcIuson ot Law and Ordcr tor Summary Evcton.
d you carIcr tcstq to mc cttcct that n that documcnt thcrc
s csscntaIIy a command to thc Shcrtt that thcy shaII - thc tcnant shaII bc
rcmovcd?
A ! bclicvc that was approxmatcIy how ! paraphrascd
Exhbt 2whcn ! handm t back to Mr. HazIctt-Stcvcns, ycs.
Q Okay, and just tor pont ot rctcrcncc, do you -whcrc on
pagc sx, Inc 2,onc, it says, "!t s hcrcby ordcrcd, adjudgcd and dccrccd as
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1 foIIows, that thc Shcrff ConstahIc of Kcno Townshp or onc of thcr duIy
2 authorzcd agcnts hc and hcrchy s drcctcd to rcmovc cach pcrson and cvcry
3 pcrson found upon or wthn thc rcntaI unt Iocatcd at Kvcr Kock.
4 A No, ! do not scc that. l do not havc thc documcnt n
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7 THL COKT. Lct mc ask you ths. WouId t hclp, Mr. Bakcr,
8 fI gavc you -Ict mc do ths so wc`rc vcry cIcar.
9 M.COGHL!N. Your Honor, ! havc anothcr copy.
l O THL COKT. No, that` s nc. Go ahcad, and thc orgnal,
1 Cty`s Lxhht 2, lct`s gvc to Mr. Bakcr so hc has rcfcrcncc to that
l 2 documcnt. Thank you, sr.
l 3 Now, docs that hclp to answcr thc qucston, M.Bakcr?
4 THL W!TNLSS. What was thc qucston? Can ! (naudhlc) thc
rst paragaph?
l 6 THL COKT. Hc csscntaIIy rcad vcrhatm thc trst paragraph
l 7 to you, and askcd f that`s what thc documcnt sad. l s that corrcct, M.
8 CoughIn?
l 9 M. COGHL!N. Ycs, sr, Your Honor.
20 1 COKT. Okay, thank you.
2l THL W!TNLSS. ! don`t havc your qucston n mnd, hut to thc
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4 A ocs l say anythng n that paragaph aboul wantng to
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7 documcntaton nvoIvcd n ths procccdng tor thc cvcton ordcr?
& A You mcan a wang n addlon to whal 1udgc
9 Stcrrazza toId us at thc hcarng?
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11 rctcrrng lo thc notcc that you say was poslcd - l mcan, lhs documcnt -
l2 Exhbt Z lhal you say was postcd.
And l gathcr you bcIcvc that ctfcclualcd scrvcc of t. l`m
l 4 askng you, s thcrc anylhng wlhn ths thal spcaks to a wang lo Icavc
l 5 smIar to what s tound n KMC 8. l O.O4O, thc trcspass sccton ot thc Kcno
16 Mun Codc?
I7 A l don`t know lhc Kcno Mun Courl -lhc Mun Codc. I
l & thnk thc bcst ! can do to answcr your qucston s to say that n thc
l 9 ntroduclory paragraph on pagc onc, rcctcs that on pagc 2l , that you wcrc
2O prcscnl and procccdcd n propcr pcrson at lhc lwo hcarngs rctcrcnccd on
2l that pagc, Oclobcr J J' and - cxcusc mc, Octobcr J'" and Octobcr ZJ'".
22 l don`t scc bg !lashng lcttcrs that say wamng" on thcrc, t
2J that` s your qucston.
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3 A That`s not what ! said.
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5 A ! don`t practicc crimnal law. l don`t know what you
6 thnk s sumccnt to wa you, hcsdcs a 1udgc tcllng you from thc hcnch
7 that you'rc gong to hc cvctcd.
& Idon`t know what you thnk s sucicnt to wa you that
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l I crmnal trcspass, right?
l 2 A Lkc ! sad, ! don`t practicc crminal law.
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I4 rclativc to a crminal trcspass prosccuton, and your answcr rclatcd to a cvl
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l 6 A Okay, mayhc thc hcst answcr s that you`rc asking mc
I 7 !or a lcgal concluson in rcspcct to a crmnaI law qucston, and ! don`t havc
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20 to lcavc to thc tcnant such that a crmnal prosccuton was justcd?
2I M.HZLL11-STLVLNS. 1udgc, l`m gong to ohjcct. 1hat`s
22 a mattcr of a lcgal concluson n ths casc, and t`s thc ultmatc concluson o!
ths casc. l don`t think Ihs wtncss can answcr that qucston.
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2 to thc uItmatc IcgaI concIuson. l`II makc that dctcrmnaton, so that
3 objccton s sustancd.
4 M. COCHLlN. Ycs, sr, Your Honor.
5 BY M. COCHLlN.
6 Q You sad you ddn`t scrvc any Notcc of Lntry of Ordcr
7 of Lxhbt 2,thc !ndngs of !act, that you prcparcd and 1udgc Sfcrrazza
& sgncd?
9 A Wc probabIy dd aRcrwards. But l ddn`t for thc
IO Iockout, l don`t thnk. Maybc.
l I Q Okay, bcforc thc Iockout, dd you cvcr mal, or anyonc
I 2 wim your organzaton, maI or othcrwsc pcrform constructvc scrvcc undcr
l 3 NKCF 6, of ths Ordcr?
l 4 A Wcll, n thcsc procccdngs (naudblc) by 1ustcc Cour|
ruIcs, not thc rulcs of thc (naudblc). 1hat`s numbcr onc.
Numbcr two, l don`t kow whcn my oHcc rcccvcd a sgcd
copy. So, l don`t - l can`t tcll you as l st hcrc today whcthcr wc scnt a
l & Notcc of Lntq. AIthough, l can tcII you, that`s my practcc, cspccaIIy n
l 9 your casc, to mmcdatcIy scnd a Notcc of Lntry.
2O Q Okay, and you sad "thcsc procccdngs" ths summary
2I cvcton procccdng, whch 1udgc Sfcrrazza also charactcrzcd as a traI, that
22 wouId bc rcconvcncd on Octobcr ZJ", but you sad thosc procccdngs/traI
23 arc not govcmcd by thc KuIcs o! CvI Froccdurc, NKCF?
24 A !rst, Iddn`I say "mosc procccdngs/uaI. \dd not
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2 Froccdurc, and n tact, thcrc s a vcry smaII porton ot thosc ruIcs, ! thnk
3 thcy (naudbIc).
4 l don`t know. ! thnk KuIc 8(!) or so that havc to do wth
sM ary procccdngs, whch s what ths was. 1hat`s my answcr. 1hat`s thc
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& ndcatcs that thc Ncvada KuIcs ot CvI Froccdurc do appIy to summary
9 IandIord/tcnant procccdngs to thc cxtcnt that thc mattcrs not spokcn to by
thc statutcs tound n ! I 8(a) or thc rcIcvant por|ons ot 4U, arc sIcnt n thosc
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l 2 A You`rc askng mc to tcII you what that statutc says? !
l 3 havc no dca what that statutc says (naudbIc).
' Arc you awarc that NKS 4U.2U8U spcccaIIy docs
makc NKCF appIcabIc to thcsc procccdngs?
l 6 A !`m awarc that you just toId mc that, but ! don`t know
that to bc thc casc wthout rcadng thc statutc.
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A What ! sad was that thc ruIcs that wc wcrc opcratng
2I undcr n thc summary cvcton procccdng arc thc Ncvada 1ustcc Court
22 KuIcs ot CvI Froccdurc.
23 ! undcrstand thcrc s somc ntcrpIay n bctwccn thc ruIcs to thc
24 cxtcnt onc sct docs not covcr somcthng, you can Iook to thc othcr sct.
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No, ! don`t.
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M.HALE11-S1LVLNS. !`m gong to ohjcct.
1HE COU1. Lct mc tcII you somcthng. Wc arc gcttng way
out n an arca that, quitc !rankIy, !rom mc IcgaI pcrspcctvc, !` m not rcaIIy
ntcrcstcd or rclcvant whcrc ths is gong.
! think you wcrc makng somc ground, hcadway, askng somc
o!thc rclcvant qucstons ahout Ihc issuc n this casc, somc notcc, what was
contancd i n Ihc Ianguagc.
1hosc wcrc rpc qucstons !or cross-cxamination, and you
wcrc dong a good joh askng thosc qucstions.
But rcalIy, ! havc no ntcrcst lcgally, and ! thnk t`s "
rrcIcvanI, whch rulcs apply n thc 1ustcc Court.
! thnk you arc gcIIng !ar, !ar - you arc straying !ar hom thc
rclcvant ssucs whch you wcrc cxpIorng carlicr, and !`m gong to sustan
Z thc ohjcctons, and drcct you to ask somc qucstions thaI drcctIy rcIatc to thc
Z contcnt o! cthcr thc !ndngs o! !act, thc Ordcr o! Eviction, or what
ZZ happcncd whcn you wcrc prcscnt n Court.
But !`m just not gong to aIIow thc qucstons hccausc Ihcy`rc
Z4 not gong to atIcct my ruling aI all. ! nd thcm just irrclcvant.
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2 whcthcr or not scrvicc was appropriatcly donc, wc nccd to know what ruIcs
3 apply, don`t wc?
4 1HE COK1. M. CoughIn, wc don`t nccd to know what ruIcs
arc donc (sc). Scrvcc, you can ask. !`ll dccdc what scrvicc was donc from
asccr|ainng what facts arc dcvcIopcd hcrc n Cour|, and Istcn to thosc.
1 !`vc hcard somc thngs wcrc IcH on thc door hy thc ShcrH. !
8 havc a coupIc documcnts in cvdcncc, and ! know you wcrc prcscnt at a
hcaring. And thosc arc thc qucstions that ! Ihink, qutc frankIy, you should
hc zcroing n on n tcrms of any qucstions, and thcn thcrc` s only so many
qucstons uItmatcIy that can hc askcd that rcally arc rclcvant hcforc wc start
Z to wcar out thc wcIcomc on cross-cxamination in tcrms of rcdundant, rcpcat,
J and askcd and answcrcd qucstions.
So, lct`s stay focuscd on that ssuc, and go ahcad and ask
anothcr qucston.
M COCHL!N. Ycs, sir, Your Honor. !t just s - ! don`t know f
1 you can calI it an offcr of proof, hut.
8 1HE COK1. Co ahcad and makc an offcr of proof. !`Il aIIow
that.
M4 COCHL!N. ! don`t cvcn thnk ! know what that s, sr.
Z My point s not to takc up thc Cour|`s tmc. My point is -
22 1HE COK1. Mr. Coughln, Ict mc tcII you rght now. You
23 can takc aII thc Court tmc wc nccd as Iong as wc`rc focusing on thc rcIcvant
Z4 arcas that wc havc not cxpIorcd.
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ToIhccxtcntwcbcgintorchashandgoovcritcmsthaIwc`vc
2 hcardbcIorc,that`sawasIcoIcvcrybody`stimc. I don`Ithinkanybody
3 nccdsIoworryaboutmchavingmytimcwastcd. I`vcdcdicatcdIhccnIirc
4 daytohavcthistrialconductcdandhcard. IwilldoIhaIIothccxtcnIwc`rc
askingqucstionsthatarcncw,csh,andrclcvant.
6 So,goahcad.
7 M.COUCHLIN. And,YourHonor,myonlypoinIis,thisis
8 probablyoncoIthcmostimpor|anIissucsinthcwholcIrial,iIyouaskmc.
9 THECOURT. Wcll,thcnthaI's -
M.COUCHLIN. AndIhaI`swhyI`m-
I I TCOURT. AndthaI`swhyIthinkyoushouldprobablyzcro
I2 i nonthoscissucs,andyou`rcstar|ingtosIrayintoarcasIhaIIdon`Ibclicvc
I 3 arcrclcvanItoIhaIissuc,andI ` mgivingyoumyrulingomIhcbcnch.
I4 M.COUCHLIN. Ycs,sir,YourHonor. I`m|usIaskingIor somc
clarication. I Ilcanjust,Ior aminuIc,sctIor|hwhyIbclicvcIhisis
I 6 rclcvant.
I7 THECOURT. Coahcad,M.Coughlin.
! & M.COUCHLIN. ItsccmsIo- itsccmsthiscascisprcmiscdupon
I9 thcidcathatancvictionnoIicci stantamountIoawmingundcrA. I O.O4O,
thcIrcspasssIaIuIc, IailurcIolcavcthcprcmiscsahcrbcingwacdtodoso.
2I Trcspass,RcnoMuniCodc.
22 So,iIsccmsasIhoughthcCiIyissaying,Yourwamingto
lcavcIhcprcmiscswasthis." AndI' msaying,Thisisn'Ithisuntilit`s
24 scrvcdundcrthclaw,andthclawsaysthatyouhavctoscrvcitbypcrsonally
scrvingit,bccauscNRCFisincoqoraIcdundcr4O.28O."
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wII cstahIsh Iatcr was not donc, and l hcIcvc hs tcstmony was to thc
cttcct that no onc was thcrc.
So, t you don`t gct that, thc Iaw says, NRCF 6- +, J, and 6,t
says you havc to suhsttutc scrvcc. l thnk somc pcopIc call t constructvc
scrvcc, thrcc days tor maIng.
1HL COUR1. 1o thc cxtcnt ths wtncss s ahlc to answcr, why
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M4 HALL11-S1LVLNS. And, 1udgc, !`m gong to ntcrposc
1HL COUR1. Co ahcad.
M HAZ!L11 -S1LVLNS. -- my ohjccton tor Iack ot a hcttcr
word hcrc. !`m not tqng to provc that an cvcton - that an cvcton
Fndngs ot Facts and ConcIusons ot Law was propcrly scrvcd on
ctcndant. 1hat`s not my ohIgaton as a crmnaI prosccutor n ths casc.
My ohIgaton s to show notcc that hc was cvctcd, and thc
was hack on thc propcrty. ! don`t thnk thcy`rc rclcvant what knd ot scrvcc
actually happcncd, whcthcr t`s pursuant to Ncvada RuIcs ot Cvl
Froccdurc, thc LandIord/1cnant Law, or raIcs appIcahIc to thc 1ustcc
Courts.
So, tor thc rccord, that`s my ohjccton.
1HL COUR1. 1hank you. Why don`t you tocus your nquq
on somc ot thc arcas you rascd whch you should hc ahlc to havc answcrcd
n two or thrcc qucstons ot ths wtncss to thc cxtcnt hc`s ahIc to answcr
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2 ssucs at thc hack cnd?
3 M COUCHLlN . Ycs, sr, Your Honor.
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6 ctIcctcd suhstIutc or constructvc scrvcc ot ths that your oHcc dd pror to
7 thc Iockout?
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20 conclusons, M.CoughIn. You can ask hm what hc dd, or what hc has
2I pcrsonaI knowIcdgc of as what was donc. l` l l makc any IcgaI rulngs Iatcr
22 on on what scrvicc, it any, was appropratc rcIatng to thc Muncpal Codc.
23 l thnk thosc arc thc knd ot qucstons that can hc askcd, and
24 that this wIncss can L cannot answcr.
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Sorry t!`vc askcd ths hctorc. !t sccms as though
carIcr you sad you don`t hcIcvc a Notcc ot Entry was maIcd to thc tcnant
pror to thc Iockout occurrng, s that concct?
A don`t know. Idon`t know whcn wc got thc Ic-
stampcd copy, so Idon`t know whcn wc dd thc Notcc ot Lnu.
can tcu you that normaI proccdurc s that thc ShcrIt gocs and
cntorccs thc Ordcr hy tapng t to thc door, cIcarng thc propcr|, and thcn
thc Iocks arc changcd. 1hat`s what thc ShcrtI docs.
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Okay, thank you. And carIcr, you madc somc mcnton
otthc way t works. By that, dd you mcan thc Iaw sn`t partcuIarIy cIcar
wth rcgard to how scrvcc and notcc arc donc n thcsc rcgards, and t ocn
taus to just thc ShcrH knd ottcIIng pcopIc what thc Iogc s, or what thcy
hcIcvc t to hc? Whcn you sad thc way t works.
A 1hat`s not what was rctcrcncng, no.
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A Whch qucston was Ianswcrng?
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A Whch qucston was Ianswcrng and !`II tcu you what I
was rctcrcncng?
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IhcIcvc M.HazIcII-Stcvcns was askng you ahout on
Novcmhcr lg you wcnt to Kvcr Kock. d you mcct thcm? d thcy cah
you or somcthng Ikc that, and you sad, "WcII, mc way t works.
1HE COUK1. M.CoughIn, why don`t you ask a qucston, a
spcctc drcct qucston? Cvc thc wtncss thc opportunty to answcr that
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M COUCHLlN. Ycs, sir.
1HL COUR1. Wc`rc gcttng way out hcrc on this datrhc.
M COUCHL!N: Ycs, sr, Your Honor. l`II wthdraw that
qucston.
1HL COU1. Lct mc tcII you, t`s not hcIpng thc Court.
M4 COUCHLlI. Ycs, sr, Your Honor.
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What did you do tor thc I I months durng which you
IcH thc cmpIoy ot M.HII?
M HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. 1udgc, !`m going to ohjcct.
1HL COUR1. 1hat`s rrcIcvant. Sustancd. (!naudhIc).
1hat`s rrcIcvant.
M4 COUCHlN. lt was tcstitcd to on drcct.
1HL COUR1. Hc tcstcd hc wasn`t thcrc, hut n tcrms ot
whcrc hc wcnt, ths is not gong to assst thc Cour| onc hit whcrc hc wcnt.
M COUCHL!N. Okay, ycs, sr.
1HL COUR1. !t`s rrcIcvant to thcsc procccdngs.
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And M.Bakcr, you tcstcd that your assgnmcnt was
to cvict M.CoughIn, s that corrcct?
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M HALL11-S1LVLNS. 1udgc, !`m gong to objcct. !t gocs
to no rc|cvant ssuc n ths casc.
M COLGHL!N. 1hat`s corrcct. ! wthdraw, YourHonor. !
apo|ogzc. !`II contnuc to tocus n hcrc morc.
But thc thng s, Your Honor, wc havc aII thcsc thngs that
arcn`t rcIcvant, but thcy arc so prcjudcaI, thcy kccp gcttng brought up.
! want to ask hm about tabrcatng ssucs. M.Coughln was
tabrcatng ssucs. No, t`s not rca|Iy rcIcvant to thc cvcton, but thcy kccp
' brngng a|| ths stu!I up. 1hc hoardcr that ddn`t pay tor 4or 5 months, thc
tabrcatng ssucs.
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1HL COLK1: Mr. CoughIn, t you havc a gucston, go ahcad
and ask thc gucston, and wc`|| dctcmnc thc rc|cvancc ot cach gucston as
thcy`rc askcd, so go ahcad.
M COLGHL!N: Ycs, sr.
BY M4 COLGHL!N.
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What dd you mcan by tabrcatng ssucs whcn you
wcrc tcstqng carIcr?
A Od ! say that? Or was that M.HII you arc thnkng
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1HL COLK1: My rccoI|ccton s both you and Mr. H|I tcstcd
to that. So to thc cxtcnt that you tcstcd to that, that prcscnts an
oppor|unty tor a coupIc ot gucstons hom M.CoughIn t you can answcr
thosc n brcvq.
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)HL W!1NLSS. ! bcIcvc ! was rctcrrng to thc "habtablty
ssucs that you wcrc qng to sct up as your dctcnsc to thc cvcton.
1hcrc was ncvcr any proot, and 1udgc Stcnazza tound that
thcrc wcrc no ssucs, and that`s aII Iad out n thc Indngs ot Iact.
M.COUGH!!N: Okay, whcn you sIaIcd thcrc was no prooL s
that accountng tor thc cmaIs whcrcn mold ssucs wcrc sct torth?
1HL COUK1. M.CoughIn, wc`rc gcI|ng -
MR. HALL11-S1LVLNS. 1udgc, !`m gong to objcct.
1HL COUR1. Wc`rc gcttng nto arcas that arc rrclcvant n
tcrms ot what prccptatcd n spcccs, thc bass tor thc scckng and
obtanng ot an Ordcr ot Lvcton.
! thnk thc rcIcvant and rpc arca n ths casc s thc notcc ssuc.
M.COUGHL!N: AIrght.
1HL COLR1. And ! thnk you wcrc cxplorng that, but t
docsn`t nccd to bc cxpIorcd tor an hour. ! t you want to ask somc gucstons
rcIatcd to that, thc Cour| s ntcrcstcd n hcarng your gucstons, and
rcsponscs ot ths wmcss.
MR. COUGH!N: Ycs, sr, Your Honor.
1HL COUR1. ! mcan M.Bakcr.
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Was thc tcnant wacd to Icavc thc propcrty?
M.HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. 1udgc, !`m gong to objcct as to
vagucncss. Whcn was thc tcnant wacd? What datc arc wc taIkng about?
1HL COUR1. Wc`rc taIkng thc tcnant. Who arc wc taIkng
about? And was thc tcnant wacd by who to Icavc thc propcrty?
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Lct`s bc spccc n thc gucston. l bc|cvc you`rc rctcrrng to
yourscIt that -to ask that gucston by whom and whcn - somconc dcntcd
as thc tcnant may havc bccn askcd to Icavc thc propcrg and wacd to Icavc
thc propcrty.
MK. COUGHLlN. Ycs, sr, Your Honor.
BY MB COUGHLlN:
Q By whom and whcn was cthcr l, or anyonc cIsc, IcgaIIy
dccmcd to bc thc tcnant, wamcd to Icavc thc prcmscs?
1HL COUK1: And thcn to thc cxtcnt you can answcr that, Mr.
Bakcr, answcr t. lI you can`t, don`t.
1H WTSS. l can answcr t, sr.
1HL COUK1. Okay, thank you.
1HL WJSS. 1hc rst two notccs wcrc scrvcd on you on
August ZZ"", Z! ! . Onc oI thosc was a 5-day notcc that wamcd you that t
you dd not pay your rcnt wthn vc days you wouId bc cvctcd.
M COUGHLlN: Objccton, Your Honor, rclcvancy. Whcn onc
has a IcgaI rght to bc somcwhcrc -
1HL COUK1: You askcd thc gucston. Hc`s gvng thc answcr.
lt you arc gong answcr (sc) opcn cndcd gucstons on cross-cxamnaton,
you`rc stuck wth thc answcr.
You can answcr that gucston, M. Bakcr. Go ahcad.
1HL W1SS. Jank you, sr.
1hc sccond otthosc notccs was a J0-day no causc that gavc
you J0 days. And what that notcc dd was that t toId you that your tcnancy,
your month-to-month tcnancy, was bcng tcrmnatcd as oI that tmc.
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So, you had through somctmc n thc mddIc to thc cnd ot
Scptcmbcr to vacatc undcr that notcc.
1hc way t works s aRcr thc J days has run, thcn wc scrvc
you, and wc scrvcd you wth anothcr 5-day Notcc ot LnIawml Octancr.
1hat was your thrd wamng.
1hcn wc had our hcarngs on Octobcr J'" and Octobcr 25'.
At thc cnd otthat hcarng, at approxmatcIy 5.00 on Octobcr 25',1udgc
Stcrrazza toId you, and toId mc and cvcryonc cIsc n mc Court, that thc
cvcton had bccn grantcd, and that you had through Octobcr J at 5:00 p.m.
1hat was your tourth wang.
Ahcr that, wcII - that was your tourth wang.
BY M COLGHL!N.
Q So, whcn you`rc sayng 'ang, arc you sayng upon
thc orgnaI wamng n August that taIng to Icavc at that tmc wouId havc
justcd a crmnaI trcspass prosccuton at that tmc?
M+ HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. 1udgc, t caIIs tor a Icgal
concIuson. Objccton.
1HL COLK1. Sustancd. 1hs wtncss cannot answcr that
gucston. 1hat docs call tor a IcgaI concIuson.
1HL W!1NLSS. You wcrc aIso wacd on Octobcr 21''whcn !
cmaIcd you thc proposcd Ordcr.
BY M= COLGHL!N.
Q And whcn you say 'acd, wamcd to do what and by
whcn?
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A Your gucston was wcrc you cvcr wamcd that you wcrc
gong to bc cvctcd, so ! Ihnk that`s why.
Q No, t wasn`t. !t was, 'crc you cvcr wacd to Icavc
thc prcmscs? ! kccp rctcnng to a crmnaI trcspass statutc, and you kccp
rctcrrng to cv| cvcton statutcs.
1HL COLK1: Lstcn, ! don`t want to havc an cngagcmcnt
bcIwccn thc wmcss and thc Octcndant.
l want you to answcr gucstons. ! can !gurc ths stuHout up
hcrc. ! wasn`t -!`vc bccn dong ths tor vc ycars.
You`vc askcd somc mpor|ant gucstons, M.Cough|n. !
don`t know t you`rc gong to rcaIIy hcIp yourscII anymorc by askng any
morc gucstons !rom ms wtncss. Ithnk Mr. Bakcr has tcstcd to thc bcst
ot hs ab|ty about what hc knows, and ! thnk that`s aII hc can tcst| to.
M. COLGHL!N: AIrght, thank you, Your Honor.
1HL COLK1. You madc somc hcadway, and t`s probabIy a
good tmc to stop unIcss you havc somc oIhcr drcct, rc|cvant gucstons
rcIatcd to hs drcct cxamnaton.
M. COLGHL!N: No, sr, Your Honor. 1hank you.
1HL COL1: Okay, M.Haz|ct|-Stcvcns?
M. HAZLL11 -S1LVLNS. No rcdrcct, Your Honor.
1HL COLK1: 1hank you vcry much. ! apprccatc t. A|rght.
MK. HAZLLJ-S1LVLNS: Your Honor, thc CIy rcca||s M.
Kchard HII to thc stand.
1HL COLK1: AIrght, M.Hll. May ! rcmnd you you`rc
undcr oath? 1hank you.
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M. HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. 1hank you, 1udgc.
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datc ot Novcmhcr J'", Z . o you rccaII that day?
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What wcrc you doing Ihat day? Wcrc you workng?
A WcII, thc cIcnt s om CaItoma, and hc had contactcd
mc and said hc had wantcd to comc up and inspcct thc housc and scc whaI
kind ot damagc had hccn donc Io it.
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A And wc`d madc arrangcmcnIs tor him to comc up. !
had rcporIcd to him that somchody had hccn hrcakng into thc housc.
' Okay, how do you know that?
A WclI, M.Bakcr was oH, as hc aIrcady tcsti!cd, on
Icavc durng thc Imc IhaI thc cvcton actually camc down.
Hc camc hack Iong cnougto do Ihc cviction.
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A And hc and my wtc camc hack. 1hcy lc thc kcys at
thc oHcc, and ! dctcrmincd thaI undcr thc crcumsIanccs, thc prudcnt thng
to do was to go ovcr and vdcotapc thc propcrIy.
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Z that was workng tor us, and hc and ! wcnt ovcr to thc housc, vdcotapcd.
J Wcnt up to thc hont door, and thc notcc was stII tapcd to thc tront door.
4 UnIockcd thc hont door, wcnt n, and most ot thc wndows
wcrc unlockcd, and |hc back door was unlockcd. So, wc sccurcd cvcryIhng
and ! wcnt back to thc oHcc, and ! rcad my sta thc rot act. ! sad, "Od
1 you sccurc ths pIacc?` And ! was ntormcd that propcr proccdurc was
8 tolIowcd, that aII thc doors wcrc lockcd, aII thc wndows wcrc Iockcd, and
9 that causcd mc a lttlc bt ot conccm.
So, a day or so la|cr, Iwcn| back. And my rccollcc|on s ma|
I I at that pont n tmc, thc Lvcton Notcc was stII up. Wcnt n and somc oI
Z thc wndows that ! had lockcd pcrsonaIIy wcrc unIockcd. Somc ot thc thngs
J n thc housc had bccn movcd around, and thc back door was unlockcd agan.
I4 So, that causcd mc somc conccm as to pcrhaps somcbody was
gc||ing n. And rcla|cd |ha| |o |hc clcn|. And a| |ha| pon|, was cmalng
I Mr. CoughIn tcIIng hm that M.Bakcr was o!I on vacaton, and hc was
I 1 gong to havc to dcal wIh mc n tcms ot gcttng hs stuH out. Wc wantcd to
I 8 gct hs stutt out. And ncvcr got any rcsponsc trom hm.
I 9 1umng now to that Sunday, thc cIcnt madc arrangcmcnts to
mcc| mc a| my oHcc. Wc thcn wcn| ovcr |o thc propcrty. By |ha| |mc, |hc
Z notcc had bccn takcn down otthc tront door.
ZZ Wc wcnt n, and oncc agan, thc onc par|cular wndow on thc
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I A Or unIockcd, not opcn. And oncc agan, thc back door
2 was opcn, and ! notccd thcrc was a tood wrappcr on thc countcr that had not
J bccn thcrc thc Iast tmc ! was n.
4 And thc cIcnt was rathcr dstrcsscd at thc condton ot thc
5 propcrg. 1hc caqct had bccn rppcd up and put on thc Iawn. 1hc doors
6 wcrc takcn oH.
1 M COUGHL!N: Objccton, Your Honor, rcIcvancy.
8 1HL COUK1. !`m gong to sustan that objccton. ! thnk wc`rc
9 gct|ng out to an arca agan, ncIcvant.
I O M4 HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. 1hat`s !nc.
I I 1HL COUK1: ! apprccatc t, but !`m gong to sustan that, M.
I 2 CoughIn. Lct`s movc on, N. HII, to what wc thnk arc thc rcIcvant ssucs
rcgardng notcc and what happcncd whcn you got thcrc on thc
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1HL W!1NLSS. Okay.
1 COUK1. 1hank you.
I 6 BY M4 HAZLL11-S1LVLNS.
I 7 Q And what dd happcn whcn you got thcrc on thc
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acr you nspcctcd thc propcrty?
A At that pont n tmc, thc cIcnt sad, "WcII, ! want to
chcck thc bascmcnt. ! sad, Bascmcnt?
2 I And thc bascmcnt cntrancc was outsdc thc Iockcd back door
22 on thc porch. And wc wcnt around out thc back door to go down thc
starcasc, and thcrc wcrc tooI boxcs oI -Ikc smaII sutcascs, boxcs, stackcd
n thc starwcII that wc had to pck up and movc to gct out ot thc way so wc
couId gct down thc stars to go to scc what was n thc bascmcnt.
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Wc na||y got aII that stutt out ot thc way, havng to wa|k
through aII ot thc stuH that was on thc porch.
Anyway, thc cIcnt gcts down to thc bottom otthc stars. ! was
or 4tcct bchnd hm, and hc pushcd on thc door, and ! couId scc that thc
door was movng, but t was barrcadcd. And hc tumcd to mc and sad, "!t`s
barrcadcd hom thc nsdc. l sad, "Okay, that`s t. Lct`s go upstars.
Wc wcnt upstars. Wc caIIcd thc poIcc. 1hcy arrvcd about
l 0 mnutcs Iatcr. 1o|d thcm what thc probIcm was. 1hcy wcnt down. !t
was a Iady scrgcant. ! bc|cvc hcr namc was Lopcz, and an oHccr. ! don`t
rccaII hs rank. ! bcIcvc t was Cartcr.
1hcy wcnt down, and bangcd on thc door wth thcr
nghtstcks. Wc wcrc prctty surc who was nsdc. Odn`t know tor surc.
And ! sad, "Comc on out, Zach. Nothng. "Comc on out, Zach. Nothng.
And that wcnt on tor 2or mnutcs. And thcy spcclicaIIy
dcntcd thcmscIvcs as thc poIcc. 1hcy sad, "Wc|I, that`s t, wc`rc gong
to |cavc. And both Or. Mcr|ss and ! sad, "What do you mcan? 1hs guy
s n hcrc. Somcbody s n hcrc crmnaIIy trcspassng. Wc nccd to know
who t s and gct hm out ot hcrc. And thcy sad, "Wc||, wc'rc not gong to
brcak down thc door.
So, Or. McrIss wcnt down thc stars, and hc`s thc onc that
kckcd thc door opcn. Brokc thc door n thc proccss. Hc thcn camc up. Onc
ot thc poIcc oHccrs wcnt down wth hs gun drawn, lIashIght tumcd down,
and thc rst thng ! hcard was, "Show mc your handsl Show mc your handsl
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2 hmscII or not. Wc thcn procccdcd upstars, and M.CoughIn thcn camc
J upstars on hs own. Hc was wcarng a par ot pajamas, and a t-shrt, and I
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I 6 Okay, and you`vc sccn prcvous tmcs thc Notcc ot
I 7 1rcspass, or cxcusc mc, thc lndngs ot lact and ConcIusons ot Law tapcd
I 8 on thc door n prcvous tmcs at I 2I Kvcr Kock?
I 9 A And Iwll aIso tcII you that ahcr ! star|cd to scc that
2O somcbody was nsdc, ! Ic an addtonaI copy on thc cottcc tabIc or
2I whatcvcr t was n thc Ivng room.
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4 whonIhoywonIthroughthobrokonthroughdoor. I' dnovormoIorsoonN.
CoughlinupunIilthattimo.
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1 A HocamoupouIoIIhobasomontintoIholivingroom.
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Z4 M.HIEJT-STEVENS. YourHonor, IwouldlikoIho
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M HALL11-S1LVLNS. 1hank you.
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Q So, trom your tcstmony, M.CougIn was n Z
Kvcr Kock?
A Oh, ungucstonabIy. Hc was Ivng n thc bascmcnt.
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M COLGHL!N. Objccton, Your Honor. ! don`t bcIcvc that - t
msstatcs pror tcstmony.
1HL COLK1. !` m gong to sustan that objccton to thc cxtcnt
that hc sad hc`s Ivng, but thc tact hc was n thc propcrIy, and dcntcd by
M.HII as parI ot thc rccord.
M4 COUGHL!N. And turthcr, Your Honor, t`s not just to thc
cxtcnt to whch hc sad hc`s lvng. M.HII has not IcsIIcd that hc saw M.
CoughIn n thc bascmcnt.
1 1HL COLK1. M.Hll tcstcd that hc saw you comc up thc
8 stars nto thc ktchcn, nto thc Ivng room. 1hat`s what`s bccn tcstIcd to.
MK. COLGHL!N. Kght, hc ddn`t scc M.Coughln n thc
Z0 bascmcnt.
Z 1H COLK1. 1hat`s Inc. ! thnk Mr. Hll tcstcd to that, and
ZZ thc CourI knows that. 1hank you.
ZJ M.HazlctI-Stcvcns?
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Q Mr. HII, dd you actuaIIy cxamnc thc bascmcnt?
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J Q Ycs, okay, wha\ dd you I)nd n thc bascmcn\?
4 M4 COLGHLlN: Objccton, Your Honor, rcIcvancy?
1HL COLR1: Okay, l`m gong to sustan that objccton. l
don`t thnk thc Court rcally nccds to know what`s n thc bascmcnt at ths
1 pont. l thnk t provdcs vcq IttIc vaIuc to thc Court what`s n that
8 bascmcnt, unIcss you want to makc an oIIcr ot proot.
M HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. 1udgc, ! wouId lkc to makc an
oHcr ot proot on ths ssuc. lt`s actualIy mportant bccausc t cstablshcs - t
cstablshcs that hc was lvng n that bascmcnt, and that gocs to both notcc,
\ Z omcrwsc hc would bc occupyng thc cntrc propcr|y, not just thc bascmcnt
ot|hc propcrty, so t gocs to notcc as to whcthcr or not hc kcw hc was
4 cvctcd hom mat propcrty, or c|sc hc wouId bc occupying mc cn\rc housc,
not just thc bascmcnt.
So, ! thnk t`s rcIcvant what was n that bascmcnt and thc
condton. l`m taIkng about what knd ot lvng matcral was n that
8 bascmcnt. Not boxcs and that knd ot stutt as to hoardng or anythng lkc
that.
But l thnk t`s rcIcvant and t`s to thc ssuc ot notcc.
1HL COUR1. Okay, ! apprccatc that. M.Coughln`s
ZZ objccton s sustancd.
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Q So, you saw M.CoughIn n hs pajamas?
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M+ COLGHL!N. Objccton, Your Honor, rcIcvancc.
1 COLK1. !rrcIcvant to what?
MK. COLGHL!N. ! don`t know what sIppcrs or pajamas havc to
do wth -
1HL COLK1. 1hat objccton wlI go to thc wcght ot thc
cvdcncc, not thc admssbIty. !`m not surc what dttcrcncc t has. !t`s
bccn tcstcd to. !t`s n cvdcncc, and !`II gvc t whatcvcr wcght ! dccdc
to gvc t - gvc to t, whch won`t bc much, at Icast not what you wcrc
wcarng.
Go ahcad, Mr. HazIct|-Stcvcns.
MK. HAZLL11-S1LVLNS. ! havc no mrthcr gucstons, Your
Honor. 1hank you.
1HL COLK1. AIrght, M.Coughln, any cross-cxamnaton
rcIatcd to what Mr. HII has tcstcd to?
Mo COLGHL!N. Ycs, sr, Your Honor, and !`ll tq to kccp t brct
1HL COLK1. 1hat would hcIp thc Court.
MK. COLGHL!N: Ldt t down.
1HL COLK1. Kccp t brct, and wc kccp t spccIc. ! thnk
that`s n your bcst ntcrcst.
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The Justice Project's Recommendations to Ensure Prosecutorial Accountability
States should require that prosecutors' offices adopt and enforce clearly defined ofcial policies and
procedures.
States should require open-file discovery in criminal cases.
States should require that prosecutors document all agreements with witnesses and jailhouse
informants concering conferment of benefts of any kind.
States should require trial and appellate judges to report all cases of prosccutorial misconduct,
including cases where the misconduct is ruled to be harmless error.
States should establish a prosecutor review board with the power to investi
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misconduct and impose sanctions.
States should require that prosecutors participate in training and continuing education programs.
Click HERE to read The Justice Project's policy review (pdt. Click HER to visit The Justice Project
website.
Justice in the Balance (Link)
A USA TODAY investigation documented 201 criminal cases across the nation in which federal
judges found that prosecutors broke the rules. The abuses put innocent people injail, set guilty people
free.
Both Sides of the Law A Special Report from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Both Sides of the Law
How the system allows Milwaukee Police offcers to keep their jobs despite run-ins with the law
Prosecutor Oversight
A Thumbnail Sketch ofUSDOJ"s "Public Integrity" Unit
On October 27, 2008, Alaska Senator Ted Stevens, a pillar of the Senate for 40 years, was convicted
of a seven-felony string of corruption charges -found guilty of accepting a bonanza of home
renovations and fancy trimmings from an oil executive and then lying about it. The conviction came
just in time to cost him re-election. Afer all, who has more credibility, a convicted felon or an elite
team of prosecutors brought together to ensure that elected offcials maintain the highest level of
integrity? As it turns out, it's the felon who is more credible. The hot-shot "Public Integrity"
prosecutors hid evidence of Sen. Stevens' innocence in order to get a conviction. They acted no .more
honorably than cheating prosecutors all over the country, the kind that distraught citizens turn to the
"Public Integrity" Unit to rein in.
Sentor Stevens was exonerated more than a year before he died in a plane crash on August 9, 2010.
Six weeks later, Nicholas Marsh, one of the "Public Integrity" prosecutors, committed suicide. The
ofcial investigation of the USDOJ prosecutors continued at a snail's pace, and appears to be
wrapping up with evidence of criminal misconduct that will go unpunished. Below are some
highlights of the investigation, food for thought that leads inexorably to the question, If they can do
this to a ranking U.S. Senator, what do they do to regular citizens?
December 23, 2008. A special agent with the FBI is accusing goverent prosecutors in the Ted
Stevens case of intentionally withholding exculpatory evidence from Stevens' lawyers and scheming
to conceal a witness from the defense team. Did the government cheat to convict the Senator?
February 14, 2009. An angry fcderal judgc held Justiec Department lawyers in contempt yestcrday for
failing to deliver documents to former senator Ted Stevens's legal team, as he had ordered. "That was
a court order," U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan bellowed. "That wasn't a request. I didn't ask
for them out of the kindness of your hearts .... Isn't the Department of Justice taking court orders
seriously these days?" Judges rarely hold prosecutors in contempt. They're following in Mike
Nifong's footsteps.
November 21, 2011. The lawyer investigating allegations of misconduct in the investigation and
prosecution of the latc Alaska Senator Ted Stevcns is not recommending that any of the government's
lawers face criminal charges. Still, the special prosecutor's report, fled in the chambers of \.L.
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District Judge Emet Sullivan, revealed "systemic concealment" of favorable information that would
have corroborated the former Republican senator's defense that he did not knowingly fle false Senate
fmancial disclosure forms. They're getting off a lot lighter than their victim did.
Texas. The former prosecutors who tried Michael Morton for murder in 1987 -District Judge Ken
Anderson and Round Rock lawyer Mike Davis -didn't mind hiding exculpatory evidence or
keeping a serial killer on the street to kill again. Getting a conviction was their only goal. Now that
Morton has been cleared, afer a quarter century in prison, Anderson and Davis don't want to answer
questions under oath about what they did to him. Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
California. Seventeen years afer he was set up by police and prosecutors and convicted of a murder
he didn't commit, Obie Anthony is free. Attorneys from the Northern Califoria Innocence Project
brought a state habeas petition, which was granted on the basis of the cumulative harm done by
egregious prosecutorial misconduct. And while Mr. Anthony sat in prison, the real killer got away
with murder.
North Carolina. Pity Durham County. First there was the fasco of publicity hound Mike Nifong,
eventually disbarred for his handling of the infamous "Duke LaCrosse Rape Case." A investigative
series by the Charlotte News & Observer examines evidence that his successor, Tracey Cline, may be
following in Nifong's footsteps, literally.
Twisted Truth
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Missouri. Kenny Hulshof once excelled at asking tough questions in Missouri courtrooms. But did
Hulshof push the rules to win? i\nd in doing so, did he convict innocent people?
Maryland. In 1988, the centerpiece of the prosecution's murder case against William Ray -in fact,
the only physical evidence the state had -was a baseball cap wor by the man who killed Baltimore
restaurant owner George Prassos. But when Ray's defense team sought the cap for DNA testing,
prosecutors say it has been lost. How convenient; how unbelievable.
North Carolina. The North Carolina Innocence Inquiry Commission has decided unanimously that a
three-judge panel should review the cases of Kenneth Kagonyera and Robert Wilcoxsin. Both pled
guilty to 2nd degree murder in the death of Walter Bowman of Fairview, NC, even though both
maintained their innocence before and afer their pleas. DNA results have excluded both men. Worse,
convenience store surveillance tape that would have supported their alibis was taped over with
footage from a soap opera while in the sheriffs department custody. The ghost of Rosemary Woods
must be haunting the Buncombe County Sheriffs Department.
UPDATE: September 22, 2011 - Kenneth Kagonyera and Robert Wilcoxson walked fee when a
panel of judges ruled they didn't kill a man during a home invasion despite their guilty pleas a decade
earlier. They pled to avoid the death penalty.
Illinois. In Zion, IL, on Mother's Day in 2005, 8-year-old Laura Hobbs and her friend, 9-year-old
Krystal Tobias, disappeared while bike riding. Afer searching all night, Laura's father, Jery Hobbs,
found them, stabbed to death. There followed a marathon, 48-hour police interrogation, after which it
was announced that Jerry had confessed. It was a classic, coerced, false confession, but te media
went with it. Nancy Grace called him "a monster." When the physical evidence -DNA -proved
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him innocent, the state took another 2 1/2 years to set him free and look for serial killer Jorge Torrez.
How many lives did the coerced false confession cost?
California. Caramad Conley of San Francisco spent 18 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit
because then*homicide investigator Earl Sanders, who would later become police chief, had stood by
in court while the star prosecution witness, a paid sitch, lied under oath. Business as usual.
Califoria. Only a tiny percentage of prosecutors who engaged in misconduct were disciplined by the
State Bar of California during a 12"year period, dccording to a report released October 4,2010.
Among 707 cases between 1997 and 2009 in which courts explicitly determined that prosecutors had
committed misconduct, only six prosecutors -0.8% "were disciplined by the State Bar of
California. Only 10 of the 4,741 disciplinary actions by the state bar during the same period involved
prosecutors. "Preventable Error: A Report on Prosecutorial Misconduct 1997-2009," issued by the
Innocence Project's Northern California chapter, was written by Kathleen Ridolfi and Maurice
Possley, a visiting research fellow at the project. Possley won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting at the
Chicago Tribune. Ridolf is a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law. Click HERE to
download the fll report (pdf formBt).
North Caolina. SBI agent Duane Deaver will likely face a judge to explain why he shouldn't be sent
to jal for making shifing explaUations about criminal blood tests in the case of Greg Taylorg found
innocent by the NC Innocence Inquiry Commission. The most likely question a judge will consider in
Taylor's case is simple: Did Deaver lie to the commission in September 2009 about blood tests
performed on Taylor's SUV in 1991. The answer should be obvious.
Missouri. A northwest Missouri judge has ordered all evidence thrown out in a decade-old murder
case in which a former Kansas City attorney is accused of beating his law partner to death in their
downtown offce. This is some of the most egregious prosecutorial misconduct documented by a court
in a long time. When the defense says "show me," the prosecution says no."
Texas. Police in Richardson, Texas put a lot of effort into coercing a rape confession from deaf
teenager Stephen Brodie back in 1990. Maybe that's why they continue to insist they had the right
guy, even though the physical evidenCe tied the crime -and 15 other rapes in the area -to Robert
Waterfeld. Brodie spent 10 years in prison for the crime. He has now brought a petition to establish
his innocence, based on Watcrfeld's fngerprint on the window of the victim's bedroom. Te cops
remain in denial.
UPDATE: Stephen Brodie was exonerated and freed on September 29, 2010.
Wisconsin. In response to the title of an article posted (below) just a few weeks ago, about the rarity
of discipline for Wisconsin prosecutors, VC C0 only add: Youre dar tootin'!" Both the Offce of
Lawyer Regulation and the Wisconsin Department of Justice detenined in 2009 that it was neither
unethical nor illegal for Calumet County DA Ken Kratz to send sexually charged text messages to the
victim of a vicious domestic abuse case he was prosecuting. His conduct doesn't look so good in
daylight. The rats who covered for him have deserted his sinking ship, but remember: The people now
prosecuting Kratz are the same ones who covered for him.
UPDATE: Kratz resigned from his post as Calumet Count DA on October 1, 2010.
New York. Prosecutors' failure to disclose that hypnosis was used to help a witness recover memories
of alleged sex abuse as a child does not invalidate a defendant's guilty plea, a federal appeals court
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has ruled. The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals refused to grant the habeas petition sought by Jesse
Friedman, who was seeking to undo his 1988 guilty plea in a molestation case that rocked Nassau
County, N.Y., and became the subject of the documentary "Capturing the Friedmans." While the
Court denied the appeal, the judges urged the Nassau DA to reopen the case. In the interest of justice.
Wisconsin. The Offce of Lawyer Regulation has recommended that only three prosecutors be
reprimanded since 2007 -two public reprimands and one 90-day suspension. DAs rarely disciplined
in Wisconsin.
New York. In vacating a murdcr conviction and barring prosecutors from retrying the case, a fcderal
judge in New York has lashed out at the Brooklyn district attorey's Offce for failing to take
responsibility for its prosecutors' alleged misconduct. At a contentious, 90-minute habeas corpus
hearing on June 8, 2010, Eastern District Judge Dora L. Irizarry noted that petitioner Jabbar Collins, a
renowned jailhouse attorey, had uncovered numerous documents while serving his 34-yeas-to-life
sentence suggesting that prosecutors had withheld evidence, coerced witnesses and lied to the court
and the jury. The DA's wagons are circled.
New York. The trial judge should have caught this, but instead put his seal of approval on a coerced
Alford plea by Rasheem Richardson and sent him to prison for a knife atack someone else
committed. Rochester prosecutors said four witnesses identifed Mr. Richardson, when only one did
so, and she retracted the next day because she had been drunk when she fngered him. When faced
with a choice between a conviction and truth, prosecutors in Rochester choose a conviction.
Florida. Now that Anthony Caravella's conviction for the 1983 rape and murder of Ada Cox
Jankowski has been tossed by DNA, offcials there are forced to face the fact that now-retired
Sheriffs Deputy Tony Fantigrassi 's real talent was extracting false confessions from innocent
people. And then there's thc crime lab. A legaey of corruption.
New Jersey. An assistant Camden County prosecutor accused of withholding evidence resigned
yesterday afer prosecutors agreed they never turned over all the information required when a Camden
man charged with murder tried to prove his innocence. Harry Collins, who has been with the offce
for more than 15 years, resigned after the prosecution of Perman Pitman came under scrutiny. Pitman
was freed last month shortly afer ofcials discovered a handwitten note by Collins that said a
witness had been paid to lie. "Please destroy this note."
Maryland. In Baltimore, Donnie Chestnut's trial was delayed 15 times. Small wonder. The state had
no basis for the drug charges filed against him, and no justification for shooting him four times. He
was acquitted -and fled suit the same day.
North Carolina. State Bureau of Investigation (SBl) agent Michael Deaver stands with a foot in each
camp -junk science and egregious police misconduct. He can take a great deal of credit for Greg
Taylor's conviction for a crime he didn't commit, because Deaver selectively reported -and testifed
to -finding blood in Taylor's truck, when he knew that more sophisticated tests showed the
substance wasn't blood at all. SBI Director Robin Pendergraf stads behind Deaver, but there is a
growing call across the state: Re-examine Old Cases.
Colorado. So just what have cops and prosecutors in the Rocky Mountain State learned from the case
of Tim Masters-a vulnerable kid targeted to clear a disturbing murder, railroaded through court and
convicted on speculation and innuendo because there was no evidence against him? Douglas County
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Sheriff David Weaver and DA Carol Chambers give a resounding answer: Nothing, absolutely
nothing.
Massachusetts. Frankly, we never thought we would see it happen. Between 1991 and 1993, Boston
U.S. Attorey Jeffrey Auerhahn concealed evidence that might have cleared Vincent Ferrara and
Pasquale Barone of murder charges. No big deal. Business as usual. In 2005, the USDOJ Ofce of
Professional Responsibility found Auerhahn acted with "reckless disregard of discovery obligations,"
but all he "sufered" was a private reprimand. But Auerhahn's conduct has been referred to a state
agency, and he'll face a 3-judge disciplinary panel. The Tide is Turning. Click HERE for the back
story.
Illinois. A case that was about wheter a convicted man is innocent has morphed into an increasingly
personal brawl between two heavyweights unwilling to back down-with academics, prosecutors,
freedom of the press advocates, and students hanging on the judge's decision. The Professor and the
Prosecutor.
Iowa. The U.S. Supreme Court announced late on January 4, 2010 that it had dismissed an important
pending case over prosecutorial immunity afer being alerted that the dispute had been settled. The
action stops in its tracks a case that could have produced a landmark decision that many believed
would have reined in the longstanding tradition that prosecutors cannot be held liable for their actions
as prosecutors. Close call for crooked prosecutors.
More U.S. Federal Court. This time it's the federal cour in Columbus, GA, where U.S. District Judge
Clay D. Land issued a 19-page order harshly criticizing the U.S. Attoreys Ofices for the Middle and
Souther Districts for offering sweetheart deals to big-time drug dealers in order to fabricate a case
against defense attorey J. Mark Shelnutt -who was acquitted of all charges brought by the feds.
Same song, east coast verse.
U.S. Federal Court. A federal judge on December 15,2009 dismissed the entire criminal stock
options backdating case against two former Broadcom Corp. executives, concluding that the
goverent's handling of the case "distorted the truth-finding process" and made a "mockery" of the
defendants' due process rights. Before dcourtroom packed with observers and other parties in the
case, U.S. District Court Judge Cormac Carey of Santa Ana, Calif., entered a judgment of acquittal
for former Chief Financial Ofcer William Ruehle, who has been in trial since Oct. 23. Carney's
decision was met at first with stunned silence. These prosecutors aren't used to losing or getting
caught.
Califoria. Ed Jagels, renowned as one of Califoria's toughest district attoreys, built his career on
the Ker County child molestation cases of the 1980s, putting more than two dozen men and women
behind bars to serve decades-long sentences for abusing children. Appellate judges now say most of
those crimes never happened. Since the late 1980s, all but one of26 convictions Jagels secured have
been reversed. Kern County has paid $9.56 million to settle state and federal suits brought by fonner
defendants and their children. But he's retiring, leaving on his own terms, not held accountable for his
actions. Why not? Because Ker County voters kept re-electing him.
Florida. William Dillon spent 27 years in prison for a murder he didn't commit based on faudulent
"evidence" from dog handler John Preston (discredited in 1984) and perjured "snitch" testimony from
another jail inmate. Now that the snitch testifed at a legislative hearing about how Brevard County
detectives got him to lie under oath, the Brevard County Sheriffs Offce reopened the homicide
investigation. Isn't it a bit late?
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Florida. Actually, all over the US, but the latest example of a wolverine prosecutor who gets
convictions regardless of guilt is in Broward County, Florida -Robert Carey. Of course, he's a
judge now, and that s typical, too. A belt full of scalps qualifes prosecutors to move up to the bench
and apply the same, twisted legal rationales to the cases tried by and before them. Congratulations,
Judge Carey. Strike Four.
Wolverine prosecutors travel in packs. Robert Carncy's successor, Carolyn McCann, launched a full
court (no pun intCnded) effort to assault the credibility of Edward Blake and his lab, Forensic Science
Associates. Why? Blake not only found DNA in the Anthony Caravella case, but his tests cleared
Caravella of rape and murder charges. In 2001, the Broward Count Sheriffs crime lab "couldn't
fnd" any DNA evidence. They tavel in the same pack. Seek the truth? No. Protect the conviction.
Mississippi. Former Hinds County Circuit Court Judge Bobby DeLaughter, 55, has resigned his job
and pled guilty to misleading authorities. His plea means he'll be spending a little over a yea"1 8
months-in a federal prison, and he will lose his law license. He'll not have to answer for what he did
to Cedric Willis. DeLaughter sent an innocent man to prison for the rest of his natural life. even
though evidence was available to the contrary. DeLaughter is no victim.
California: As Michael Gressett waited for a jury verdict in a molestation trial, the Conta Costa
County sex crimes prosecutor had what he called a "nooner," bringing a felJow prosecutor to his
Martinez home for intercourse. What happened next, on May 8, 2008, is the subject of an explosive
rape case brought by the state attorney general. It involves a gun and an ice pick, but rests on a simple
question that Gressett ofen asks juries to decide: Was the sex consensual or forced? Do as I say, not
as I do.
Illinois: A Cook County judge ordered a new trial for convicted murderer Victor Saforld on May 22,
2009 afer fnding three Chicago police detectives once supervised by disgraced former Cmdr. Jon
Burge likely beat him into confessing. " ... I have a more complete history of the behavior of these
detectives," Circuit Judge Clayton J. Cranesaid. "That evidence is staggering. That evidence is
damning."
Wisconsin: Records show that over the past four years, Michael Froehlich, the son of Outagdie
County (Appleton) Circuit Judge Harold Froehlich, has been arrested more than a dozen times for
allegedly making threatening phone calls, drunken-driving related offenses, resisting arrest, battery,
false imprisonment and threatening a sheriff's deputy. During that time, Froehlich has been criminally
prosecuted just once -in 2008 -after he was caught driving drunk for the third time with a 0.361
percent blood-alcohol level, more than four times the legal limit. Is there a quid pro quo here between
the judge and the DA? (See Morphing DNA, Disappearing Evidence.) There's just something fshy
about it.
Virginia. A top state lawyer defending Virginia death sentences has been accused of misconduct by
the Virginia State Bar, an agency of the Virginia Supreme Court. The Virginia State Ba alleges tat
Katherine Baldwin Burnett, senior assistant Virginia attorey general and director of the ofce's
capital litigation unit, made false statements during a bar hearing in April 2006 and interfered with
another lawyer's access to evidence. Scaring jurors into silence afer the trial is over.
Illinois: When Johnny Savory was 14, Peoria, IL police and prosecutors used his coerced, false
confession to convict him of murdering two of his friends. When he was re-tried, the state trotted out
two prison snitches who claimed Johnny confessed the murders to them, and again got a conviction.
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The snitches have recanted, Johnny has been paroled, but he continues to seek his own exoneration
and the real killer's identity. Hoping DNA will do it.
New York: Nineteen years ago, police in Huguenot, NY forced 1 7-year-old Kevin Keller to sign a
confession to the murder of Elaine Ackerman. Kevin spent 1 8 months in jail before the local court
suppressed the confession and threw out the state's shaky case. Then, in early 2009, a DNA cold hit
was made, identifing James Babcock as Ms. Ackerman's rapistlkiller. Will Keller fnally clear his
name?
Wisconsin: About 14 years ago, Dane County Assistant District Attorey John Norsetter allegedly got
a call that attoreys for Ralph Armstrong say would've blown the murder case against their client
apart -if only they'd known about it. A proposed rule pending before the Wisconsin Supreme Court
would require prosecutors who receive such explosive information to reveal it to the defense -and
possibly to investigate it. The current Supreme Court rules for prosecutors require only that
exculpatory evidence be turned over to the defense before trial. No more tuning a blind eye.
ARMSTRONG UPDATES: 411109 -John Norsetter, the assistant district attorey who prosecuted
Ralph Armstrong for the murder ofUW-Madison student Charise Kamps in 1 980, testifed
Wednesday that he didn't recall until recently that he'd gotten a telephone call in the mid-1 990s from
a Texas woman who claimed Armstong was innocent. "The only thing that I clearly remember is
(saying) we convicted the right man," the now-retired prosecutor said. Armstrong Hearing, Day 1 .
4/2/09 The 29-year-old murder case against Rlph Armstong appeared in jeopardy Thursday afer
ajudge found that a Dane County prosecutor failed to notif the defense of a reported confession by
Armstrong's brother in 1 995. Reserve Circuit Court Judge Robert Kinney also found that Assistant
District Attorey John Norsetter violated a court order in 2006, resulting in destruction of key DNA
evidence. Armstong Hearing, Day 2.
8/ 1/09 Ralph Armstrong' s long wait for freedom, four years afer his conviction for te 1980 rape
and murder of a UW-Madison student was overtured, came closer to an end Friday afer a judge
dismissed the charges against him. Reserve Judge Robert Kinney, of Rhinelander, said a Dane County
prosecutor in 1995 should have told Armstrong's attorneys about a reported confession to the murder
of Charise Kamps by Armstrong's broLhr. He also said a prosecutor-ordered test in 2006 caused te
destruction of a semen stain on a piece of evidence that could have eliminated Armstrong as a suspect
in Kamps' murder. Is it really almost over?
Wisconsin: It was one of the most terrifing crimes ever to hit Kaukauna, WI, a community of
1 3,000. On June 25, 2000, Shanna Van Dyn Hoven, a 19-year-old UW-Madison student, was stabbed
to death as she jogged by a quarry near her home about 6 p.m. Prosecutors said Kenneth Hudson
stabbed Van Dyn Hoven, a stranger, in a ft of misplaced rage, and that they caught him red-haded,
covered in her blood. Newly uncovered evidence, however, appears to support Hudson' s contentions
-and raises more questions about the conduct of the police and the prosecutor, Vince Biskupic.
Morhing DNA, Disappearing Evidence
Related Links
Key Points of Motion Evidence Graphics Sheet
Comprehensive Motion (pdf DA's Tactics Questioned
Click HERE for full coverage of Wisconsin's Vince Biskupic money-for-leniency scandal.
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Click HERE for more on Vince Biskupic's approach to cooking up a case.
Califoria. As part of a criminal justice review unprecedented in county history, the Santa Clara
County public defender's has launched a massive project to revisit 1,500 or more sexual assault
convictions dating back two decades to determine whether innocent people may have been put behind
bars. Members of Valley Medical Center's Sexual Assault Response Team have been videotaping
examinations of patients since 1991, but prosecutors failed to inform defense atoreys in cases
involving those patients that such critical evidence existed. Under pressure to answer for the failure,
District Attorney Dolores Carr has since revealed there are 3,300 such tapes i existence, and this
week she vowed to inform defense attorneys of each case involving medical-exam videotape where
a defendat was convicted. Better late than never.
Pennsylvania. For years, the juvenile cout system in Wilkes-Barre, PA operated like a conveyor belt:
Youngsters were brought before judges without a lawyer, given hearings that lasted only a minute or
two, and then sent off to juvenile prison for months for minor offenses. The explanation, prosecutors
say, was corruption on the bench. In one of the most shocking cases of courtroom grf on record, two
Pennsylvania judges have pled guilty to taking millions of dollars in kickbacks to send teenagers to
two privately run youth detention centers. $2.6 Million in Payoffs.
But that's just the beginning. The two former judges, now admitted felons, are cooperating with
federal law enforcement ofcials as they continue their probe into corruption at the courthouse
Conahan used to run. The U.S. Attorney's Offce is, in fact, investigating possible case fxing in
Luzerne Count's uninsured and underinsured motorist cases and ha been for some time. So you
think it's just bad kids and adult criminals who were abused? Everybody suffers.
North Carolina. It used to be that all you needed for Bconviction was d vague allegation of sexual
abuse by a very young child and a signed confession by a day care worker. But jurors in Fraklin, NC
are picky. In Michael Bradley's case, they demanded actual evidence. All that the state could give
them was the word of a detective who thinks he can tell in minutes if someone is guilty ad will use
harsh techniques against a timid person to coerce a conviction to a crime that may not have happened
at all. Their verdict: Not Guilty.
Califoria. Herbie Gonzalez of Los Angeles, CA spent 196 days in jail, famed by two sherifs
investigators, Katherine Gallagher and Randy Seymour, who didn't hesitate to perjure themselves to
make murder, robbery and residential burglary charges stick. When Judge Cary Nishimoto dismissed
the charges because Herbie's "confession" was clearly coerced, Detectives Gallagher and Seymour
implied he got off on a "technicality." And when the real killer, Milton Gallardo, was identifed by
DNA, Gallagher and Seymour continued to claim that Herbie was "somehow" involved in the crime.
Once you frame a suspect, never admit you are wrong.
Illinois. DNA evidence has been widely embraced over the last two decades as a powerfl forensic
tool to prove a defendant's guilt or innocence. But in Lake Count, authorites have sometimes
pressed for convictions even when the DNA doesn't match a suspect. When DNA evidence excluded
a man convicted in the rape and battery of a 68-year-old woman, Mermel suggested the victim had
consensual sex with someone else. When DNA evidence excluded Juan Rivera in the rape and murder
of 8 l1-year-old girl, Mermel and another prosecutor suggested that the girl may have been sexually
active. The DNA, he said, was a "red herring." And, just recently, when lawyers for the man charged
in the killing of his 8-year-old daughter and her 9-year-old friend said i court that DNA evidence
from semen excluded hm the perpetrator, the Lake prosecutor had another explanation. Never let
scientifc facts stand in the way of a conviction.
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UPDATE: December 10, 2011 - The Illinois Court of Appeals has not only reversed Jua Rivera's
conviction, it has barred prosecutors from trying him again. Smelling the coming storm, Asst. State's
Atorey Michael Mermel announced he will retire on January 1,2012. A stinging rebuke to
prosecutors, justice after a quarter century for Juan Rvera.
Illinois. At last, former Chicago Police Lt. Jon Burge has been arrested. Burge or police ofcers who
were under his command systematically tortured suspects to get confessions. The torture included
suffocation, burns, electric shocks to the genitalsq heads slamed with phone books ad "games" of
Russian roulette. But it's too late to ch3ge BUge with torturing people. He's charged with lying
about the torture.
Cook County Judge Dennis Derbach is the last remaining defendant in the multi-million dollar
lawsuits that four alleged torture victims brought against the city and count. The lawsuits claim
murder confessions were coerced by former Chicago Police Cmdr. Jon Burge and his offcers. He is
being sued by Leroy Orange, a Death Row inmate who was pardoned and feed from prison by Gov.
George Ryan in 2003. Orange accuses Dernbach, who was an assistant Cook County state's attorey
at the time, of coaching Orange's confession. Orange also claims he told Dernbach he was tortured.
Last ma standing.
It doesn't get much more ironic. On the sae day Jon BUge was arrested, former Cook County Judge
Thomas Maloney died. He was the first-and remains the only-Cook County judge to be convicted
of rigging murder cases for cash when he was found guilty in April 1993 of taking thousands of
dollars to fx tree separaTe murder trials and a fourth felony case. Not so tough on crime.
Califoria. Contending that a top local prosecutor repeatedly sought to subver jUsticeq the state bar is
recommending that Ben Field be suspended from practicing law for thee years -a punishent that
would represent an unheard of public discipline against a Santa Clara County deputy district attorey.
Defense lawer Jamie Harmon is facing trial in late October, 2008 on a 20-count state bar complaint,
accusing her of neglecting the cases of some criminal defendants and misrepresenting what would
happen to other clients if they pleaded guilty without going to trial. And the 6th District Cour of
Appeals has overturned several convictions in recent months afer fnding errors by Santa Clara
County judges in their conduct of cases -including four cases in the past six months that were
presided over by Judge Paul Beral. Held accountable in Norther Califoria.
UPDATE: A CalifoOia State Bar Court appellate panel has upheld a four-year suspension for forer
Santa Clara County prosecutor Benjamin Field despite m amicus curiae brief from the Califora
District Attoreys Association warning of a chilling effect on prosecutions. Not Dissuaded.
Maryland. In at leas! nine homicide, sex assault and burglary CaseSg Baltimore police detectives
instructed crime lab technicians not to follow up on convicted criminals' DNA found on evidence at
crime scenes because they determined it was not relevant to their investigations. How tunnelvision
works.
North Carolina. An all-white jury in Concord, NC convicted Ronie Long of the rape of a prominent
white widow -the wife of a Cannon Mills executive -in 1976, a crime Ronnie has always denied
committing. His conviction was based on the victim's eyewitness identifcation of Ronnie. Now staff
and attoreys with the NC Center on Actual Innocence have uncovered laborator evidence that clears
Ronnie -evidence the state had all along and hid from Ronnie's defense for 32 years. The state
cheated to keep a rdpiSt fee.
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Maryland. Baltimore crime analysts have been contaminating evidence with their own DNA -a
revelation that led to the dismissal of the city Police Deparment's crime lab director and prompted
questions from defense attoreys and forensic experts about the professionalism of the state's biggest
and busiest crime lab. Baltimore police are talking out of both sides of their mouths, saying, 'Oh, it's
not a problem at all,' and on the other hand they have fred the crime lab director. How did this lab get
accreditation?
Califoria. In Bakersfeld, the crime lab is part of the DA's ofce. There is no "frewall" between the
prosecution side and the science side of the offce. This creates a confict that recently moved
prosecutor Nick Lackie to tell a jury, "So what?" This confict issue has come to a head in a recent
case in which a lawyer, Daniel Willsey, stands charged with causing the death of Joe Hudnall, a local
deputy by driving under the infuence of methamphetamine and causing Hudnall to crash. Defense
attorneys have learned that testing of the defendant's blood was conducted by a lab analyst who is a
close friend of the dead deputy's family. Cops in lab coats.
But wait -there's more. When Daniel Willsey's defense attoreys went back to court to argue
motions related to mishandling evidence by the DA offce's crime lab, everyonc got a big surprise.
The crime lab had "inadvertently" destroyed the sample of Willsey's blood that the lab claimed tested
positive for methamphetamines. Gosh, it's not like the DA wanted to make sure Willsey's defense
attorneys can't have a private lab test the sample. Ooops -Butterfngers.
Maryland. Raymond Jonassen, of Glen Burnie, Maryland, spent four months in jail based on
information that turned out to be false. In charging documents related to a burglary from earlier in
2008, county police Detective Tate, wrote in an application for arrest warant that Raymond H.
Jonassen's fngerprints matched a set discovered at the crime scene. In fact, there was no match, and
the county crime lab never indicated a match. It took another two weeks to dismiss te charge against
Raymond. Neither the county police nor the chief prosecutor see a problem in what happened.
Business as usual.
Prince Edward Island, Canada. In 1989, prosecutors wedged Anthony Hanemaayer between a rock
and a hard place, convincing that despite his imlocence, he needed to plead guilty to a rape he did not
commit in order to avoid spending the rest of his life in prison. He took the deal, spent 2 years in
prison, and has endured the stigma of a rapist since then. And when notorious rapistlkiller Paul
Berardo confessed to police and prosecutors in 2006 that he, not Anthony, had committed the crime,
they didn't bother to tell Anthony. Defense counsel in another case stumbled on it.
I llinois: I n 1995, Alan Beaman of Normal, IL was convicted of murdering his former girlfiend,
Jennifer Lockmiller, in 1993. The prosecutor, James Souk, didn't tell the jur about evidence that
showed Alan was 140 miles away when Jennifer died, or that forensic evidence linked another man,
not Alan, to the murder scene. Thirteen years later, the Illinois Supreme Court has reversed Alan's
conviction, calling the evidence against him "tenuous." James Souk was rewarded for his misconduct
in the usual way -he's ajudge now. The current county prosecutor, Bill Yoder, says he is "saddened
for the family of Jennifer Lockmiller." Apparently Mr. Yoder thinks it is okay to let a killer go fee,
so long as somebody does the time. Career advancement at its typical
Ohio: In 1998, when he was 12 years old, Anthony Harris of New Philadelphia, OH was subjected to
a brutal interrogation, then charged and convicted of the murder of Devan Duniver, who lived near
Anthony. Two years later, an Ohio appeals court threw out the conviction, rulig that the interrogation
was so coercive that Harris "had no choice but ... to confess." Prosecutor Amanda Spies got mad and
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got even; when Anthony tried to enlist in the Marines, she told military ofcials he was a murderer.
But vindictive conduct is not protected conduct. The 6th US Circuit Court has ruled that Anthony can
sue the prosecutor.
Nevada: Roundly denouncing a Las Vegas federal prosecutor for withholding 650 pages of evidence
potentially helpful to two lawyers charged in a stock faud case, the 9t U. S. Circuit Court of Appeals
upheld dismissal of all 64 charges and refused to allow a retial. The Justice Department's Ofce of
Professional Responsibility, not surprisingly, cleared Assistant U. S. Attorney J . Greg D3 of any
misconduct, and did so without contacting defense attorneys. Conduct in fagrant disregard of the
United States Constitution
Texas: The Dallas County di strict attorey who has built a national reputation on freeing the
wongfully convicted says prosecutors who intentionally withhold evidence should themselves face
harsh sanctions -possibly even jail time. "Something should be done," said Craig Watkins, whose
jurisdiction leads the nation in the number of DNA exonerations. "If the harm is a great ha, yes, it
should be criminalized." Punish Unethical Prosecutors
Mississippi: The exonerations of Kennedy Brewer and Levon Brooks exposed the corrupt underbelly
of rural and sparsely populated Noxubee County. But the corruption isn't limited to small towns with
little outside oversight. Take a look at Jackson, where judges take money from prosecutors to
guarantee "justice" and consider exonerations bad publicity. The Mississippi system.
Ohio: A judge dismissed aggravated murder charges against Arian S. O' Connor afer SUit Count
prosecutors asserted that Youngstown police "compromised" ballistic evidence in the 2002 slaying for
which O' Connor was charged. When they say "compromised," they mean "planted" evidence. That' s
fraud.
Pennsylvaia: It took a Fayette County, PA jury just 25 minutes to fgure out Bret Shallenberger was
innocent ofhiting a former employee to burn down Shallenberger's proftable business. It's the local
prosecutor, who promised the actual arsoni st immunity in exchange for faming Shallenberger, who
should be on trial. Wrong Defendant
North Carolina: A day afer Glen Edward Chapman was freed fom death row, the State Bureau of
Investigation agreed to review allegations of perjury ad obstruction of justice against Dennis
Roney. The former Hickory police detective led the 1 992 double-murder investigation that resulted
in Chapman' s convictions. Ex-Cop Who Led Discredited Case Probed
California: A federal appeals court removed a controversial judge, U. S. District Judge Manuel 1. Real
of Los Angeles, from another case, accusing him this time of "excessive and biased interventions"
that denied two defendants a fair tial. Biased Judge
Califoria: The Orange County case against James Ochoa for robbing three restaurant workers was
tainted at every level: police misconduct in manipulating the victims' identifcation of James and
misrepresenting the responses of a police tracking dog; efforts by the DA' s ofce to bully crime lab
scientists into lying about the DNA exclusion of James as the robber; and the inexcusable conduct of
Judge Robert Fitzgerald in extorting a gUilty plea from James by threatening him with life in prison.
In a rare series of real-time reports about the prosecution of James Ochoa, R. Scott Moxley told
readers of the Orange County Weekly exactly which public servants were perverting justice and how
they were doing it. As you read these, keep in mind that for the police, prosecutors and judge,
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business goes on as usual. Moreover, the DA is starting up his own crime lab, so he won' t have to put
up with scientists who refuse to lie about their findings.
The Case of te Dog Who Couldn't Sniff Straight
There Once was a Judge from Nantucket
Oops. Quiet Admission They got the Wrong Guy
If Evidence Doesn't Fit, Alter It
Also see how the California Attorney General played games with James Ochoa' s compensation:
Making a Chew Toy of Justice
Alabama and the U. S. : Don Siegelman, former Democratic Governor of Alabama, has a lot in
common with Georgia Thompson. Both were prosecuted for acts that were not crimes, by politically
motivated U. S. Attoreys, at the behest of vengeful politicos highly placed in the Bush administration.
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals tossed Thompson' s conviction at the conclusion of oral
argument, ordering her immediate release from prison. It has taken longer, but the foundation of lies
and corruption underlying Siegelman' s conviction is stating to crumble. Sadly, Bush and his cronies
have tured the U. S. Department of Justice into a cadre of political operatives. Justice in Amerika.
South Dakota: Stat with a 20-year-old cold case, two missing teenagers, and call their disappearance
murder. Pick a suspect, a rapist serving a long prison term. Use a state psychologist to "help" the
suspect' s sister come up with "recovered memories" of seeing the missing teens at her family' s fa.
Recruit a seasoned snitch to get a confession on tape. Voila! You've got a conviction -almost. Then
someone noticed it wasn' t the suspect' s voice on the taped confession . . .
Texas: Afer he was snared in a net of swirling controversies including an e-mail scandal and the high
-profle indictment of a sitting Supreme Court justice followed by an immediate move to dismiss that
case, Harris County (Houston), Texas, District Attorey Chuck Rosenthal resigned from ofce. It was
a stunning reversal of fortunes.
In a press release, Rosenthal said prescription drugs had impaired his judgment. But it was what
happened inside a southeast Houston home six years earlier that led to events in a federal courtroom
and to Rosenthal ' s resignation. Erik and Sean Iba a -the power of common men.
Mississippi: The Innocence Project has asked the state to fll the long-vacant position of State Medical
Examiner, and to stop using state pathologist Dr. Steven Hayne. Dr. Hayne' s work lies at the heart of
the wrongfl convictions of Kennedy Brewer and Levon Brooks. His credentials and the results of his
work have been solidly discredited for several years, but he is under no oversight because the State
Medical Examiner position has been vacant for more than a decade. How many more wrongful
convictions before te state acts responsibly?
But Dr. Steven Hayne is only half of the despicable duo. Forensic odontologist Dr. Michael West
found "bite marks" no one else could see on the bodies of the little victims in both cases, and in both
cases, testified that Kennedy Brewer and Levon Brooks were each guilty. "If you fabricate evidence
in a capital murder case, where you know that if the person' s convicted they are going to be executed
-as far as I' m concerned that' s the crime of attempted murder," says Peter Neufeld. "He' s a
criminal. "
Massachusetts: Stephan Cowans spent nearly seven of his 37 yeas of life behind bars, locked up for a
crime he did not commit. Exonerated in January 2004, Cowans sued and ultimately received a $3.2
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million setlement fom the cit of Boston in 2006. This past October (2007), he was shot dead in his
Randolph hore. Cowans never leaed how, or why, he came to be blamed for the non-fatal shooting
of Boston police offcer Gregory Gallaghcr in 1 997. Now, the Boston Phoenix has uncovered
substantial new information about the Cowas case. These revelations are troubling, as they suggest
that key members of the Boston Police Department (BPD) knew that Cowans was innocent, even as
they forged the case to prosecute him. Incompetent-r Corrupt?
New York: New York state investigators are probing how police and prosecutors handled the 1 988
bludgeoning and stabbing deaths of Seymour and Arlene Tankleff, whose son, Mart Takleff, served
1 7 years in prison for their murders before being released in December, 2007. What Took So Long?
New York: A teen shooting suspect' s quick decision to record his interrogation with a hidden MP3
device has played out as a perjury case against a veteran detective. Testifing at the trial of Erik
Crespo in April, Detective Christopher Perino, 42, emphatically stated that he hadn' t questioned the
then- 1 7-year-old about a Christmas Day 2005 shooting in The Bronx before the kid' s mother and aunt
showed up at the 44th Precinct station. But Crespo had secretly pressed record on his MP3 player - a
small device used to download music fom the Internet - hidden in his pocket and captured the
bullying interrogation. "Testilying" vs. Tape.
Link:
Texas Math
What do you get when you take one ambitious prosecutor, four cold cases, a couple of cooperative
snitches and four defendants with compelling innocence claims? You get three death sentences and
one life without parole.
Hawaii : A hard-won victory for the common man: Pinkerton v. KD (Link)
Arizona: In a breathtaking ahuse ofthe United States Constitution, Sherif Joe Apaio, Maricopa
County Attorey Andrew Thomas, and special prosecutor Dennis Wilenchik, ued the grand jur V
subpoena "all documents related to articles and other content published by Phoenix New Times
newspaper in print and on the Phoenix New Times website, regarding Sheriff Joe Arpaio from
January 1 , 2004 to the present." More alarming still, Arpaio, Thomas, and Wilenchik subpoenaed
detailed information on anyone who has looked at the New Times Web site since 2004. Taking a
Sledgehammer to the Constitution
Witin hours of the Phoenix New Times blowing the whistle on Sheriff Araio, County Attorey
Thomas and special prosecutor Wilenchik, the two top executives of the newspaper were arrested. By
the next day, public outcry was such that the charges were dropped and Wilenchik was fred. Which
leads to ou question: Why are Sheriff Araio and County Attorey Thomas still in ofce?
North Carolina: A Durham, NC judge on October 8, 2007 dismissed murder and robbery charges frst
filed in 1 993 against a mentally retarded defendant, ordering his release from a state hospital afer 1 4
years in custody without a trial. Floyd Brown, a 43-year-old Anson County man with 8 I Q of 50, was
charged in the robhery and beating death of 80-year-old Katherine Lynch in 1 993. He was found at
the time to be incompetent to stand trial, and has remained in state custody at Dorothea Dix Hospital
ever since as prosecutors refused to drop the case against him. (Hey, wasn't Mike Nifong the Durham
County DA?) The System Failed Him at Every Level.
Canada: The Supreme Court of Canada, in a 6-3 decision, has broken new legal ground by ruling
suspects can sue police investigators for negligence in cases of shoddy detective work. In a judgment
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that said police ofcers are not immune from civil l iabilit, the court set its eyes squaely on
combating wrongfl convictions and institutional racism, requiring police to face the same legal
consequences as other professionals who fail in their public duties. Ruling Applies Across Canada.
Illinois: Not since club-swinging cops in baby-blue helmets chased demonstrators through clouds of
pepper gas at the 1 968 Democratic National Convention have Chicago police been so awash in
trouble. Federal prosecutors have charged special operations ofcer Jerome Finnigan with planning
the murder of another member of the unit to keep him from talking to the government. U.S. Attorey
Patrick 1. Fitzgerald has announced the federal government was stepping into the torture case, saying
it would seek evidence of "petiury, false statements and obstruction of justice by members ofthe
Chicago police department." It' s political, it's cultural, it' s systemic.
Wisconsin: Award-winning jouralist Dee Hall of Madison, WI' s Wisconsin State Joural has fled a
stunning series on the prosecutorial misconduct of Dane County Asst. DA Paul Humphrey, as well as
the response -or lack of response -of Wisconsin's Ofce of Lawyer Regulation U Humphrey' s
conduct i n particular and prosecutorial misconduct i n general.
A Prosecutor Accused
Homicide . . . or Tragic Accident?
Ignoring Police, Humphrey Leaves Teen in Jail
Charging Bankrupt Man was Wrong
Not told she had to appear, woman charged afer she' s tardy
Questionable Handling of Horse Cases
A Vendetta against Defense Witnesses
Some of Humphrey' s Questionable Cases
30% Longer to Handle Felonies
Justice Demands Higher Standards
Wisconsin State Joural Editorial
Related
Devastating Consequences
25 Prosecutors Disciplined since 1 98 1
A 1 999 Classic - and Nothing has Changed
A Shocking Expose of Prosecutorial Misconduct
Michigan: Now that evidence points to serial rapist/killer Mathew Macon as the man who brutally
raped and murdered Lansing (Michigan) Community College Prof Carolyn Kronenberg, experts are
taking a careful look at what police and prosecutors called Claude McCollum' s "confession" to that
murder. "It's shocking to me that this was enough to charge, and ultimately convict somebody," said
Prof. Steve Drizin, one of the false confession experts who reviewed tanscripts of the two-hour
interview. Read it for yourself. Keep in mind that McCollum was excluded by DNA, ad the state still
called him a killer. McCollum Police Interview Questioned.
UPDATE: 9/22/07 -Ingham County DA Stuart Dunnings, III has joined Claude McCollum's lawyer
in asking the Michigan Court of Appeals to grant Claude a new tial. According to the joint motion,
Lansing Community College Police turned over a videotape which apparently showed that Claude
was somewhere else on campus at the time of Carolyn Kronenburg' s murder. Dunnings said if he
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knew in 2005 what he knows now, he would still prosecute Claude. Why wasn't the videotape tued
over before trial?
UPDATE: 9124/07 - The Michigan Court of Appeals has granted Claude McCollum a new tial.
UPDATE: 1 0/1 6/07 - Claude McCollum released on bail. State says he poses no danger to public.
Translation: He's innocent.
UPDATE: 1 0/24/07 - Charges against McCollum dismissed
Pennsylvania: Sometimes justice happens in spite of the justice system. Sometimes it only happens
when the people in the justice system get their noses rubbed in their messes. On 9/1 1/07, Lancaster
Count District Attorney Donald R. Totaro did the right thing by freeing Charles T. "Ted" Dubbs
from a 1 2- to 40-year prison term in two sexual attacks he probably did not commit. Dubbs was
sentenced in May 2002. Wilbur Cyrus Brown, a serial rapist who confessed to 1 3 other rapes,
including one on the same jogging trail where Dubbs supposedly committed his crimes, confessed to
those attacks in November. But Totaro had to spin things to poray his ofce as a well-oiled machine
that immediately tured to fx an honest error when it came to their attention. That's not what
happened.
Wisconsin: In a three-year span, Milwaukee Police Department Sgt. Jason Mucha was accused at least
1 0 times of beating suspects, planting drugs or both - claims so similar that judges took notice.
Mucha' s record shows how an individual can be the subject of numerous misconduct allegations and
continue to advance his career inside a department that lacks a reliable way to track problematic
behavior. His story also shows how a single offcer was instrumental in changing the way Wisconsin
courts consider claims of police misconduct. Forcefl Impact
Mississippi: Kennedy Brewer of Macon, Mississippi, a mildly retarded, Black defendant, was
convicted of raping and killing a 3-year-old girl and sentenced to death in 1 992. In 2002, he was
cleared by DNA, but he wasn't released. He has spent the past 5 years in the local jail, awaiting
retrial. Because you can bet, the local authorities plan to get another conviction and another death
sentence. The Sheriff says he can't look for a DNA match because Mississippi doesn't have a DNA
database -which is news to the state' s crime lab director. The prosecutor will bring back his star
witness, dentist Dr. Michael West, whose bite mark testimony has been disproven by DNA in other
cases, and who resigned from professional forensic dentistry groups to avoid expulsion. Prosecutors
are so sure they're right about Kennedy' s guilt that they' re Willing to Bet His Life on It.
UPDATE: 2/9/08 - Kennedy Brewer and Levon Brooks, both convicted of killing 3-year-old girls in
Noxubee County, Mississippi, and both cleared by DNA, are slated to be released. What did it take to
reach this point? Mississippi Attorey General Jim Hood had to take the prosecutions of these
murders away from the Noxubee County DA, something almost unheard of in the state' s history. The
Attorey General has charged Albert Johnson with the murders of both children.
California: A coalition of national nonproft groups has asked the Justice Department to investigate
and suspend FBI employee Danny Miller, who was found by a jury to have falsifed evidence against
Herman Atkins, a man who served 1 2 years in prison before being exonerated by DNA evidence.
Miller is in a position to continue doing harm to the innocent.
Wisconsin: Wisconsin Dept. of Justice special agent Greg Eggum put away a lot of people during the
time he worked as an arson investigator for the state. It was the means he sometimes used that caused
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the problems -forensic fraud, hiding and tampering with evidence, committing perjur -and state
agencies that should have investigated his conduct refused to do so. In 2006, Milwaukee investigative
consultant Ira Robins asked the state supreme court to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate
Eggu' s conduct. The state high court instead converted Robins' petition to an appeal in John
Maloney' S criminal case and dismissed it. Robins is back with a federal lawsuit detailing Eggum' s
misconduct and asking for a federal investigation. Click HERE to read the Complaint (pdf forat).
Ohio. Lee Lucas has had an extraordinary career as a DEA agent in Miami, in Bolivia, and now in his
hometown of Clevelad. He's gotten a lot of convictions, but with "issues" like evidence tampering,
beating informants, suborning perury and lying under oath himself. Lucas dodged all the
invetigative bullet, until May of2007. That' s when one of his informants, Jerrell Bray, told federal
public defenders: "I could fll a room with the innocent people I' ve helped Lucas put away."
Jerrell Bray said he wanted to come clean. But would anyone believe him?
Joshawa Webb won't answer the door. Joe Ward won' t leave his room. Lowestco Ballard' s wife had a
miscarriage. And Geneva France is a ghost. Collateral damage when police become criminals.
Wisconsin. A judge on July 25, 2007 threw out 3 Oshkosh man ' s 1 995 conviction for threatening to
kill disgraced former Winnebago County District Attorney Joseph Paulus after authorities agreed that
a prosecutor withheld important evidence and solicited false testimony from a key witness. The
prosecution of the case by former Outagamie County District Attorey Vince Biskupic "is an example
of really egregious conduct " by a prosecutor, said an attorey for the man, Mark Price. Vindication.
United States. The power, if not the arrogance, of prosecutors grated on Angela Davis thoughout her
1 2 years at the D. C. Public Defender Service, three as its director. Now a law professor at American
University, she has made a mission of exposing that power-n radio and TV and in a new book,
Arbitrary Justice-with hopes of reining it in. Her beef is not so much with prosecutors breang the
rules, althoug plenty do. Davis' greater worry is al I the behavior considered within bounds but
outside any reasonable notion of fair play. Abuse at the early stages.
Massachusetts. In what appears to be the largest sum of money ever awarded to people who were
wrongfully convi cted, a judge today ordered the federal goverment to pay $1 01 . 8 million to make
amends for framing four men for a murder they did not commit. Two of the men died in prison afer
being falsely convicted in the 1 965 gangland murder. Another, Peter Limone, spent 33 yeBs in jail
before he was exonerated in 2001 . The fourth, Joseph Salvati, spent 29 years in prison. Justice -
Better Late than Never.
Colorado. Somewhere between the spot Peggy Hettrick was abducted and the Fort Collins feld where
her partially clad body was dumped, her killer would have shed pieces of himself, mothlike. As he
pulled her through the grass that dark morng on Feb. 1 1 , 1 987, his skin cells could have sloughed
off onto her black coat. A strand of his hair could have hooked onto her shoes. A sneeze could have
dampened her blouse. This is the law of forensic science: When two people come into contact, they
leave cells on each other. But in the Hettrick murder case, authorities strayed fom this law by losing
some of these biological relies and destroying evidence linked to a prominent doctor they never
investigated for the crime. In doing so, they may have covered the killer' s genetic tracks. This
happened in Fort Collins, where a detective clung to his belief that a I 5-year-old boy committed the
crime, despite no physical evidence. In a county where prosecutors opposed saving DNA, let alone
testing it. In a state where the law doesn' t create a duty to preserve forensic evidence. The result: A
innocent man goes to prison for life, and te real killer moves on. Tim Masters is the iHocent man.
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UPDATE: January 3, 2008: Innocence Bid Gets Boost. Fort Collins, CO authorities violated evidence
-discovery rules when they withheld expert opinions that conficted with their theory that a 1 5-year
old Tim Masters murdered Peggy Hettrick in 1 987, according to special prosecutors.
UPDATE: January 22, 2008: Tim Masters released and his conviction vacated. DNA excludes
Masters and points to another suspect.
UPDATE: September 9, 2008 : Prosecutors in Tim Masters case get public censure for their
misconduct. Both Terry Gilmore and Jolene Blair are judges now, and tis isn't Gilmore' s frst
censure for prosecutor misconduct. Nonetheless, they are expected to be easily re-elected in 201 0 -
assuming anyone runs against either of them -because the public has such a short span of attention,
and the voters don't really care.
UPDATE: July 30, 201 0: Murder conviction was built on cop' s lies. Lt. Jim Broderick, one of the
lead investigators in the case against Masters, appeared before specially appointed Judge James
Hartmann in a hearing that l asted about 1 2 minutes. Broderick listened to the perjury charges against
him but waived his right to hear 8 formal reading of the indictment. He did not enter a plea. He is
scheduled to be back in court for a status conference September 28, 201 0.
Massachusetts Chief US District Judge Mark L. Wolf, in a rare rebuke to the US Justice Department,
has asked the Massachusetts Board of Bar Overseers to launch disciplinary proceedings against a
veteran federal prosecutor, Jeffrey Auerhahn, who withheld key evidence in a New England Mafa
case from the early 1 990s. His Victim Wants Auerhahn Disbarred. Click HERE for the back story.
Manitoba, Canada There has been intense scrutiny of cases handled by George Dangerfeld, who until
his retirement was considered the most formidable prosecutor toiling for Manitoba Justice. Since his
retirement, however, he has been dogged by allegations that some of his most faous cases were
miscarriages of justice. He was at the helm of two confrmed wrongfl convictions: James Driskell
and Thomas Sophonow. In both cases, judicial inquiries determined that Dangerfeld committed
errors, and failed in his duty to disclose relevant evidence to the defence. The Hon. Roger Salhany,
forer justice of the Ontario Court, has been retained to review the cases of former top Manitoba
prosecutor George Dangerfeld. Prosecutorial Misconduct Knows No Borders
Michigan Afer a house bured down on Bay-Arenac County Line Road near Bay City, MI,
Pinconning-Fraser Fire offcials called Michigan State Police fre investigator Jefrey Wallace to the
scene. They suspected arson, they told him. And when Wallace showed up w ith his ason dog named
Cops and produced evidence that accelerants feled the blaze, they had all the evidence needed to
brig charges - against Wallace. That's bccause local frefghters intentionally ignited the abandoned
structure -without using any accelerant - in a "sting" on Wallace executed in conjunction with
Michigan State Police and other agencies. Faking Your Way to Glory.
Wisconsin: The trend of prosecuting non-criminal conduct has spread from New York, where former
U. S. Attorey Rudy Giuliani initiated it, to the heartland. In Wisconsin, Georgia Thompson was a
civil service employee when she was convicted of fraud, afer being accused of steering a state travel
contract to a frm whose top ofcials were major campaign contributors to Gov. Doyle. Never mind
that shc knew nothing about the campaign contributions and was just trying to save the state money.
In a stunning and extremely rare move, a 3-judge panel of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals acquitted
Thompson at the conclusion of oral arguments on April S, 2007, and ordered her immediate release
from prison.
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Not a politically motivated prosecution? Not a thinly vcilcd attempt by U. S. Attorey Steve Biskupic
to wound a sitting (Democrat) governor in the heat of an election? If not, then why was Thompson
repeatedly offered deals, even afer she was convicted, if she would "talk about higher-ups." Of
course it was. And an innocent woman was Caught in a Political Squeeze Play.
UPDATE: 9/1 2/07 - Te federal case against Georgia Thompson is long dead, and she is back to
work i her state job. But questions about the feds' failed prosecution of Thompson just won't go
away. And with good reason. Questions on Thompson case won' t quit.
from Liestoppers Blog
"A amazing performance of joualism on the fly."
Nifonging Seminar
Click the "ad" for details.
Wisconsin: Prosecutors retrying a 1 980 murder charge against Ralph Armstrong in Madison, WI
cannot use the results of a DNA test on a key piece of evidence because the results were obtained in
violation of a court order, a judge has ruled. Dane County Circuit Judge Daniel Moeser said the state
acted in "bad faith" when it went ahead with the testing without notifing the defense and, in the
process, used up the material - in violation of the judge's order. Bad Faith.
UPDA TE - 4/25/08: Now we know why the state violated a court order to test -and use up -key
evidence. The state, and specifcally, Assistant DA John Norsetter, has known for 1 3 years that Ralph
Arstrong's brother confessed to the crime of which Ralph was convicted. Norseter, who retired
from the offce last year, allegedly not only failed to investigate or notif Armstrong' s defense
attorneys of this confession, he subsequently ordered a test that destroyed evidence that could have
established Steve Armstrong' s guilt. Worse Than Bad Faith
North Carolina: Durham County DA Mike Nifong has made himself the national poster boy for
prosecutorial misconduct by his handling of rape allegations against Duke University lacrosse players.
Nifong made infammatory comments about the accused to the media, withheld exculpatory evidence,
and continucd to pursuc convictions long afer it was obvious thc dcfendants are innocent. Why did he
do it? He was running for election, and as Nifong himself said, ' I'm getting a million dollars of free
advertisements. '
Texas: In deciding Ex Parte James S. Masonheimer, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals found that
Taylor Count prosecutors (including now Judge Robert Harper) intentionally withheld exculpatory
evidence with the specifc intent to avoid a acquittal on three sepaate occasions. The CCA granted
Mr. Masonheimer double jeopardy relief stating this prosecutorial misconduct met the Oregon v.
Kennedy standard. Third Trial Barred.
New York: Bruce Mason was convicted of arson and other charges in a federal bnch trial in
Binghamton, New York before the Hon. Thomas J. McAvoy. Although government and insurance
fre investigators found no evidence of arson at the fre scene (i. e. , no accelerant, no incendiary
device), the record shows these experts devised a physically impossible arson scenario, and ignored,
destroyed, suppressed, or lied about evidence which disproved it. When this wasn't enough to win the
conviction, authorities fabricated a witness. Lin: Brce Mason
Texas: The Dallas County, TX district attorey' s office has acknowledged that prosecutors illegally
withheld evidence tat might have saved a man from a 1 983 rape conviction and 1 0 years in prison.
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Newly discovered evidence amassed by attoreys for James Curtis Giles "strongly suggests" that he
wa misidentifed as one of three men involved in the gang rape, prosecutors said. They said his
conviction should be overtured, but stopped short of declaring Mr. Giles innocent. Instead, they
asked state District Judge Robert Francis for additional time to investigate Mr. Giles' claim that a man
with a nearly identical name was the true rapist. What' s in a Name?
Similar: Kerry Sanders was whisked from Los Angeles, CA to prison in Stormville, NY when he was
mistaken for fgitive Robert Sanders. For 2 years, no one would listen when he insisted, "My Name is
Not Robert."
New York: Following a "trend" begun by former US Attorey (now a presidential hopeful) Rudy
Giuliani, criminalizing non-criminal conduct, US Attorney for the Souther District of New York
Michael J. Garcia went afer David Finnerty and 1 4 other NY Stock Exchange foor specialists for
"interpositioning. " Interpositioning means that instead of matching pending buy and sell orders, the
specialists repeatedly tade for their company' s proprietary account, making a proft from the slight
differences in pricing. The government said Finnerty cheated customers out of$4. 5 million. Judge
Denny Chin overtured a jury' s guilty verdict, however, concluding that no one was defrauded of any
money and that interpositioning is not a crime. A Page from The Tyranny of Good Intentions
Minnesota: Minnesota prosecutors, the people accustomed to dishing out punishment, have found
themselves on the receiving end of two recent state Supreme Court decisions that targeted improper
closing arguments and other out-of-bounds trial behavior. Prosecutors are bristling over the decisions,
but many defense lawyers and legal experts think it' s about time that courts stop waring prosecutors
about misconduct and start doing something to stop it. Crackdown on Prosecutor Misconduct
Nebraska: Matt Livers of Murdoch, Nebraska, the latest false confessor to a murder, was set fee afer
evidence that two other persons committed the crime surfaced. The State' s own expert agreed with the
fndings of the defense expcrt that Livers was mentally retarded, vulnerable to the tactics used by the
police, and the confession was almost certainly false. Still to be explained are fndings in the car
police said Matt drove the night of the murders. Interestingly, no DNA is found in the car on first
inspection. It is only on second inspection, using a wet swab, that the DNA is found, in the only area
searched. Meet Matt Livers.
Vermont: In Burlington, VT, District Court Judge Michael Kupersmith has had it with police who
violate suspects' rights willingly and repeatedly by ignoring the precept of reciting a Miranda
warning. "It' s unfortunate that in this country there are people who believe that the rules do not apply
to the executive branch, and they do; and the courts are here to enforce that," says Judge Kupersmith.
"At least," he continued, his voiee rising, "these courts are. " Sidestepping Miranda.
California: A Huntington Beach police offcer's exoneration for planting a loaded gun in a suspect' s
car has led to the revelation that police routinely plant evidence in unsuspecting civilians' vehicles for
training exercises. Police admit planting evidence.
Il linois: In Chicago in 1 997, June Siler mistakenly identifed Robert Wilson as the man who slashed
her wish a razor blade, afer viewing a suggestive photo line up and being told he had confessed. This
is a chilling reminder of how easy it is for police and prosecutors to manipulate a witness' testimony.
Now, June says, "I have to make this right. "
Michigan: It took egregious misconduct by both police and prosecutors to hold together a case against
tcacher James Perry long enough for a jury to convict him of molesting 2 kindergarteners in suburban
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Detroit' s Oakland County. Well, it was either deliberate misconduct or these folks really believe that
"Har Potter" and "The Lion King" are "nonerotic pornography. " If you need your hair curled, read
the following news reports:
Lawyer seeks new trial or dismissal of charges
Conviction in sex case doesn' t pass the smell test
Judge reviews assault case
Judge frees teacher in sex abuse case
Perr' s jury, UO, was railroaded
But Wait!
Oakland County Prosecutor David Gorcyca is no stranger to prosecutorial misconduct
North Carolina: The Robeson County District Attorey has had to dismiss 1 80 dug cases because a
state and federal investigation has led to corruption charges against former drug enforcement deputies.
Three of those deputies -Roger Taylor, C.T. Strickland and Steven Lovin -have been charged in a
1 0-count federal indictment. The indictment alleges that they burned two homes and a business,
assaulted people, paid informants with drugs, and stole and laundered public money. Power Corrupts
South Carolina: An investigation by The Post and Courier (Charleston) uncovered endemic failures in
the state' s system for tracking police ofcers that allow problem eops to keep teir badges despite
histories of misconduct and even criminal behavior. Systemic Failure
New Jersey: Superior Court Judge Wilbur Mathesius thinks two N.J. Supreme Court justices are too
prejudiced against him to be objective when they review the 6-month suspension Mathesius caught
for, among other things, berating a jury for acquitting a defendant of illegal handgun possession;
talking ex parte to jurors in the midst of deliberations in a murder case; making derogatory comments,
some in public, about appellate judges; and gratuitous remarks that show bias about cases or
defendants. Can' t They Take a Joke?
Texas: The Bexar County district attorey's investigation into the possibly wrongfl execution of
Ruben Cantu had barely stated early in 2006, but already DA investigators were scoffng at the three
witnesses who contend Texas sent innocent man named Ruben Cantu to his death. The DA denies
bias.
Ohio: According to appeals court decisions, at least three men could be on death row because
Cleveland' s former star prosecutor Carmen Marino hid evidence. Three others had murder
convictions set aside, one because of what an appeals court called Marino' s "highly improper and
highly prejudicial" conduct. The others, because he hid key evidence or lied about secret deals with
jailed witnesses. Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Judge Daniel Gaul said Marino should be
criminally prosecuted for the abuses. How Many Other Marinos are out there?
Missouri: Sandra Kemper, a suspect in an alleged arson that took the life of her son, denied nine times
that she had anything to do with the fre. Then the St. Louis County police detective resorted to one of
the oldest tricks in the book -he told Kemper that she had failed a lie detector test. Later that day,
Kemper admitted that she set the fire to get out from under the burden of being the sole provider to
hcr family and to collect insurance proceeds. But the confession did not fit the facts of the crime, te
motive evidence was weak, and Sandra had passed the lie detector test with fying colors. The trial
judge declared a mistrial on issues related to the polygraph, and Missouri' s high cour has now ruled
that Sandra cannot be retried. Police Lies Backfired.
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Florida: Florida correctional offcials -already facing a surge of unwelcome scrutiny in the wake of
the forced resignation of former commissioner James Crosby, nine frings of high raning offcials by
Crosby' s successor, and te release of a videotapc showing the fatal beating of a fourteen yea old boy
-have been put on notce by former inmate Thomas Craig: I know where the bodies are buried.
Payback Time.
Wisconsin: Two years afer Winnebago County DA Joe Paulus pled gUilt to taking bribes to fx
cases, his iron-fsted approach is still practiced by local politicos. The Legacy of Joe Paulus Lives On.
Get the straight skinny on corruption in the Wisconsin legal system.
Full of Bologna
Ill inois: In 1 994, Chicago cops used a "reverse lineup" (in which a suspect is asked to identif his
victims), along with threats and physical abuse, to coerce 1 7-year-old Lafonso Rollins into confessing
to the rape of an elderly woman. He was convicted and sentenced to 75 years prison, but he was feed
in 2004 when DNA proved his innocence. He sued. Discover in his civil suit disclosed that the
police crime lab had excluded him based on blood type before Rollins was ever tried. Oops. The great
teamwork cost the city $9 mil lion. Cops & Crime Lab, Working Together
Fl orida: With the help of testimony from convicted murderer Clarence Zacke, Brevard County
prosecutors sent Wilton Dedge to prison for 22 years for a crime he did not commit. In December,
2005, Zacke was sentenced to life in prison for raping his adopted daughter 30 years earlier. Now,
Dedge's attoreys are calling for an investigation of the state attorney' s ofce afer learing during
Zacke' s rape trial that the child-rape allegations were the subject of a grand jur investigation before
Dedge' s trial in 1984. Hidden Dirt, Hidden Deals
New York: A former FBI agent helped set up the 1 992 shotgun murder of a Brooklyn mobster, a
federal civil suit fled by the gangster' s widow charges. The agent, Lindley DeVecchio, pulled a
surveillance team shortly before the rubout of Nicholas Grancio as a favor to Mafa capo Gregory
Scarpa Sr. -DeVecchio's secret informant, the suit contends. It' s Nothing Personal; It' s Just Business
New York. A Long Island, N. Y. , judge has been IeSed and charged by federal prosecutors with
participating in a money laundering and fencing scheme with a suspected organized crime associate.
According to a 71 -page complaint unsealed Tuesday by the Easter Distict of New York u.s.
Attorey' s Ofce, Nassau County District Court Judge David Gross helped d undercover Federal
Dureau of Investigation agent posing as a stolen diamond traffcker unload merchandise well as
launder about $1 30,000 in illicit fnds. A Cut in the Action
Tennessee: Two more former Campbell County sherif' s ofcers have been sentenced to prison for
the beating ad torture of a suspected drug dealer. The ofcers claimed they went to Lester Siler's
home to serve a probation violation warrant, but in fact they tortured him, demanding drugs and
money. And Siler' s wife tape recorded it. Taped Interrogation
I l l inois: In October, 2004, Kevin Fox of Wilmington, Illinos was arrested following a 1 4-hour
i l l lerrogation in which investigators said he confessed to molesting and murdering his 3-year-old
daughter Riley in Jue of the sae year. The prosecutor, just days away fom a hotly contested re
election bid that he ended up losing, vowed to seek the death penalty. A sheriffs offcer called the
Fi H Lab at Quantico, Virginia in November and told them to stop working on DNA evidence sent
t) : cre for analysis. Kevin' s attorney convinced the new prosecutor to send the evidence to a private lab
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f( l [ testing, and the DNA test results "absolutely" exclude Kevin. Charges that could have led to his
execution have been dropped. Riley's killer remains free. Political Overkill
UPDATE: 5/28/1 0 - Riley Fox's killer, identifed by DNA as Scott Wayne Eby, has been chaged
with abducting the 3-year-old from her own bed, raping and murdering her. Afer putting the Fox
family through hell with the bogus charges against Kevin, then losing a $1 5. 5 Million lawsuit for
malicious prosecution, Will Count Sheriff Paul Kaupas has apologized to the Foxes. Well, sort of
He had a spokesman do it on his behalf. So Little, So Late.
Virginia: Cisco A. Olavarria was almost 1 ,000 miles away when 1 4-year-old LaBrian Harris was shot
d `ad in South Richmond in the fal l of 2004. Eleven days after the Oct. 1 6 shooting, Richmond police
publicly named Olavaria, then 1 9, as a suspected accomplice in the killing and distributed his
d; iver's license photo to the news media. Early the next month, a special grand juy began meeting
o','er an intensive investigation by Virginia State Police into the killing of Olavarria's older brother,
S: mtanna, by two Richmond police offcers the preceding spring. It' s Time to Set the Record Straight
{ ' PDATE: Patrolman, ex-partner indicted in Santanna Olavarria's murder.
Califoria: Ker County DA Ed Jagels put two dozen innocent people behind bas on charges tat
t1 cy molested their own kids -while ignoring evidence that his fiends were throwing orgies with
teenage boys. So why is one of America's most reckless prosecutors still in power? Mean Justice's
r i [ty Secrets
I ' inois: A lawsuit was predictable in the case of two teenagers who were wrongly charged in the
february slaying of a Machesney Park, Illinois man. The lawsuit was brought by mothers of the two
y Uths who were wrongly charged, and it names Winnebago County Sheriff Dick Meyers, his
department, detectives and deputies. It's time for Safeguards to Protect Accused Kids.
\ isconsin. Suspicions about a 1 998 4th offense drunken-driving case dismissed by former prosecutor
12 rad Priebe have prompted Winnebago County DA Bill Lennon to refer the matter to the state
rpartment of Justice for review of the case. Lennon said he did so in response to "red flags" that
a;lpeared as prosecutors prepared a new drunken driving case against the same man, whose 1 998 case
V IS dismissed as a result of a motion by Priebe, then a Winnebago County assistant distict attorney.
l iebe appointed judge in Outagamie County Circuit Court and running for election in his own right,
s , i d he was ordered to dismiss the chage by then-DA Joe Paulus, now in prison for taing bribes to
fi x cases, and "had no choice". The Paulus Legacy Shines On
c ick HERE for full coverage of Wisconsin's Joe Paulus brber scadal, from initial allegations to
O ' ntencing.
C' lio: Derrick Jamison has been released fom Ohio's Death Row. His 1 985 murder conviction was
(' crtured by two federal courts, which ruled he was denied a fair trial by prosecutors who witheld
c idence that might have cleared him. 1 1 9t Innocent Person Released from Death Row
1 SA: The popularity of"CSI : Crime Scene Investigation" and its increasingly numeroUs progeny has
spawned what some folks are calling the "CSI Effect." That is, most people who might end up on a
j i ' !'Y know, or think they know, a great deal about forensic science and the kind of evidence needed to
s lve crimes. All this has been widely noted. What hasn't been noted is how years of cop shows have
a! rcady formed our background ideas about the criminal justice system. What this suggests is that we
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oll ght to be a good deal more suspicious of prosecutorial infallibility than television shows suggest.
Cop Show Effect
Wisconsin: A Milwaukee police officer has been charged with a criminal civil rights violation for
trving to shake down a parolee for money and gtilS, according to a criminal complaint fled in federal
C| ll in Milwaukee. The oficer, Ala W. Awadallah, 26, also threatened to plant drugs on the man and
tt have him sent back to prison, according to an FBI agent' s affdavit fled in support of the
complaint. If convicted, Awadallah faces a maximum penalty of two years in prison and $200,000 in
fnes. The Price of Staying Out on Parole
O'le day before Milwaukee cop Ala Awadallah was busted this week by the FBI on charges of
sll aking down a parolee, he was in the most unlikely of places: Sitting in the witness stand testifing
f l federal prosecutors in a drug/illegal immigration case. Can you say "appeal"?
I ! ' inois: An Illinois State Police l ieutenant says he was stopped fom investigating the possible
i l : volvement of a Downstate businessman in a double homicide because the man had made signifcant
pol itical donations. The l ieutenant does not allege wrongdoing by the politician, former Gov. George
Ryan, whose campaign fund received the businessman' s donations. But he alleges that state police
brass were guided by fear of political reprisals, even in m investigation with the highest possible
sl ' lkes-a death penalty murder case. Demote the Messenger
r ' ake HO mistake. Nearly 1 9 years afer the fact, this case is now a bigger mess tha it' s ever been.
S' ate police ofcials are the subject of ver serious allegations of misconduct, and the attorey
g neral' s ofice is representing the state police against the man leveling those allegations. Who will
s : p in to clean it up?
\" iseonsin: Dale Chu's conviction is proof that, in Wisconsin, you ca convict someone of arson even
W' len the cause of a fire cannot be deterined. All it takes is a win-at-all-costs prosecutor like Vince
B : .;kupic, perjured testimony from state "arson experts", te lies of a paid-off snitch and a dUied
d. l wn jury. Fixing It Up
T1C current DA in Winnebago County is conducting a secret John Doe investigation into the conduct
O Vince Biskupic and his friend and mentor, Joe Paulus, when they controlled the prosecutor' s
C i ces i n Winnebago and Outagaie Counties, He calls their actions i n the cases they made against
r , ilrk Price "an abuse of the justice system of the worst kind."
C ick HERE for full coverage of Wisconsin' s Joe Paulus bribery scandal, from initial allegations to
sc ' : tencing.
Ci ek HERE for fll coverage of Wisconsin's Vince Biskupic money-for-Ieniency scandal.
r " I ssachusetts: Eighteen years ago, three Boston-area men were convicted of fat al ly shooting a
J I ll1field couple in the basement of their Main Street home as their two young chi ldren slept upstairs,
B ' razen crime that sent shock waves through the quiet, prosperous suburb. Richard Costa, Dennis
D
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lye, and Michael DeNictolis are each serving two consecutive life sentences without the possibility
O parole for the 1 985 slaying of Robert Paglia and his wife, Patricia, in a robbery at the couple' s
h' lise. But now a retired FBI agent says i n an affdavit that a former colleague gave false and
D: sleading forensic testimony -deemed crucial to the prosecution's case -at the trial. B S Bullet
r ' atching
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Fl orida: The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is joining the investigation of Broward
Sheriff s Offce detectives suspected of falsifying crime reports. Prosecutors recently fled criminal
ch: lrges against two deputies who are charged with falsifing documents and maki ng up confessions
to clear cases in Weston and Southwest Ranches. Dozens more deputies have been informed that they
are under invcstigation or havc been asked to give statements to prosecutors. Exceptional Clearance
Fl orida (but could be anywhere in the US): .ames Faller claimed innocence in a complicated loan
fr: l lld from the time he reported it to Florida regulators more than 1 0 years ago, when he tried to
explain it to an FBI Agent, when he was indicted, tried, convicted and sentenced to prison. Along the
way he infuriated federal prosecutors by making hundreds of allegations of misconduct at virtually
CVj stage of his prosecution in the $3. 6 million fraud because, he claims, tey got the wrong guy.
1.::y' l l Get You if You Tick Them Off
UPDATE: Faller's federal lawsuit has made it through the initial (and inevitable) barrage of motions
to dismiss and motions for summary judgment. Federal Judge Allows Suit to Stand
l ] ' i !1ois: Cook County, Illinois prosecutors have dropped murder charges against Dan Young, Jr. and
Ib'old Hill, who have spent more than 1 2 years behind bars, afer DNA test results undermined their
(c(.rced) confessions and testimony from a dentist who implicated the two through a bite mark and a
hi 4 ,ey. A Chicago Tradition
I l linois and Missouri : A federal jury has awarded nearly $6.6 million in damages to former Chicago
police Offcer Steven Manning, fnding two veteran FBI agents framed him for a Cook County
murder that put him on Death Row. The jury also held that one of the FBI agents also framed
Manning in a Missouri kidnapping case. Manning spent 1 4 years in prison before both convictions
V'C ovcIuGcd and the prosecutions were dropped. Framed by FBI
}I- ; zona: Last year, former Pima County DA Kenneth Peasley was disbarred for intentionally
pr; <cnting false evidence in death-penalty cases-something that had never before happened to an
i1 ' lcrican prosecutor. In a 1 992 triple-murder case, Peasley introduced testimony that he knew to be
faLe; three men were convicted and sentenced to die. Peasley was convinced that the three were
gui l ty, but he also believed that the evidence needed a push. According to the Death Penalty
1 11 ('ormation Center, since the mid-nineteen-seventies a hundred and seventeen death-row inmates
h, \'C been released. Defense lawyers, ofen relying on DNA testing, have shown rcpeatedly how
sl' Jdy crime-lab work, lying informants, and mistaken eyewitness identifcations, among other
fadors, led to unjust convictions. But DNA tests don't reveal how innocent people Come to be
pr. secuted in the frst place. The career of Kenneth Peasley -and the case of Martin Soto-Fong
( , . KilleI Instincts [pdf format]
J s vada: Police and prosecutors in the Las Vegas Valley routinely try to keep essential information
frum defense laVyers, violating the constitutional rights of those accused of crimej, defense attoreys
an' ! the county public defender say. Putting Away the Innocent
Wi sconsin: Everything was hunky-dory at the Department of Corrections when thc TV show "Lie
De ector" proposed flming a polygraph exam of prisoner Mark Price. But when Penny Brummer and
At:drey Edmonds were added to the slate, Deputy Corrections Secretary Rick Rael l l i sch pulled the
ph g, claiming the show is "entertainment", not news. Why the 1 80 degree switch? Perhaps it' s
bet.:ause Raemisch was Dane County Sheriff and at the helm of the Brummer and Edmonds
inyestigations. Confict of Interest
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21 t o Di smi ss Appeal 197
14- New Ver i f i ed Response 262
22 15- Redact ed and Ver i f i ed Response wi t h
t wo DVD di scs 264 268
23 16- Emer gency Ex Par t e Mot i on 267 268
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5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s i s t he dat e set f or t he
6 di sci pl i nar y hear i ng en r e Zachar y B. Coughl i n. The t i me
7 i s now 8: 56. The hear i ng was or i gi nal l y not i ced f or 9: 00
8 o' cl ock.
9 Last week on November 7t h t he panel met by
10 t el ephone conf er ence, and gi ven some i ssues t o be deal t
11 wi t h we i ssued an or der r equi r i ng t he hear i ng t o st ar t at
12 8: 45. I t i s now 8: 56. Mr . Coughl i n i s not pr esent . We
13 have i nf or mat i on t hat he di d phone t he St at e Bar of f i ce
14 and sai d t hat he woul d be l at e.
15 The r eason we' r e pr oceedi ng i n t he absence of
16 Mr . Coughl i n i s t hat one of t he wi t nesses, J udge Beesl ey,
17 i s i n Las Vegas and can onl y t est i f y bet ween 9: 00 and
18 9: 30, and so we' r e commenci ng t he hear i ng i n t he absence
19 of Mr . Coughl i n, despi t e hi s absence, because t he hear i ng
20 was not i ced t o commence at 8: 45.
21 Wi t h t hat , does any panel member have any
22 ot her comment s bef or e we pr oceed wi t h t he t est i mony of
23 J udge Beesl ey?
24 Mr . Ki ng?
25 MR. KI NG: Coul d I ask t he chai r man f or t he
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1 r ecor d t o i nt r oduce t he panel member s i n at t endance, and
2 t hen I wi l l - -
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Panel member s f or t hi s
4 hear i ng ar e Mr . St eve Kent , Mr . Cl ar k Vel l i s, Mr . Mi chael
5 J ohnson, and Kar en Pear l . And I ' mt he chai r man, J ohn
6 Echever r i a.
7 MR. KI NG: My name i s Pat r i ck Ki ng on behal f
8 of t he St at e Bar of Nevada.
9 Wi t h t he chai r man' s per mi ssi on, I woul d l i ke
10 t o t ake a wi t ness. The honor abl e f eder al J udge Br uce
11 Beesl ey, has i nf or mat i on t hat I t hi nk t he panel wi l l f i nd
12 r el evant t o Mr . Coughl i n' s hear i ng, and I woul d ask
13 per mi ssi on t o cal l hi mat t hi s t i me.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Has Mr . Coughl i n been
15 not i f i ed t hat J udge Beesl ey i s an expect ed wi t ness?
16 MR. KI NG: Yes, he has.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you.
18 MR. KI NG: I n candor , Mr . Coughl i n has sent
19 vi a e- mai l many, many pages, and I ' mnot exagger at i ng when
20 I say hundr eds of pages of e- mai l s. And i n many of t hose
21 e- mai l s he' s pr ot est ed my cal l i ng any wi t nesses,
22 pr oceedi ng wi t h t he hear i ng, and speci f i cal l y pr ot est ed
23 agai nst havi ng any j udges not physi cal l y pr esent t est i f y
24 by phone.
25 I had not i ced t hat t hese peopl e woul d be
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1 t est i f yi ng vi a phone, whi ch i s why he' s awar e of t hat .
2 And I woul d ask t hat t he chai r al l ow any j udge t o t est i f y
3 by phone.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Unl ess any panel member has
5 an obj ect i on, t hat ' s so or der ed.
6 MR. KI NG: Thank you. I wi l l now t r y t o r each
7 J udge Beesl ey.
8 ( Pl aci ng cal l t o J udge Beesl ey. )
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let t he r ecor d r ef l ect t hat
10 i t ' s now 9: 02, and Mr . Coughl i n has j oi ned t he hear i ng.
11 Mr . Coughl i n, we' r e wai t i ng t o connect wi t h
12 J udge Beesl ey who i s t he f i r st schedul ed wi t ness t o appear
13 bet ween 9: 00 and 9: 30.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I obj ect t o hi mappear i ng. He
15 wasn' t not i ced unt i l f ar t oo cl ose i n t i me - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I di dn' t hear . Can you speak
17 l ouder ?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . I don' t bel i eve he
19 was appr opr i at el y not i ced of t he hear i ng, t hi s hear i ng.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng?
21 MR. KI NG: As t he r ecor d r ef l ect s,
22 Mr . Coughl i n was ser ved a copy of t he compl ai nt t o t he
23 addr ess t hat he i s mandat ed t o pr ovi de t o t he St at e Bar .
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve t hat ' s cor r ect .
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease don' t i nt er r upt ,
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1 Mr . Coughl i n.
2 Go ahead.
3 MR. KI NG: Subsequent l y, Mr . Coughl i n f i l ed,
4 i mmedi at el y af t er we mai l ed t he compl ai nt vi a cer t i f i ed
5 and r egul ar mai l , Mr . Coughl i n f i l ed a mot i on t o di smi ss
6 t he compl ai nt .
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hi nk hi s ar gument her e i s
8 t hat he wasn' t not i f i ed t hat J udge Beesl ey woul d be a
9 pot ent i al wi t ness.
10 MR. KI NG: We sent a suppl ement al not i ce t o
11 Mr . Coughl i n t hat we i nt ended t o cal l J udge Beesl ey.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y. I f I can j ust
13 i nt er j ect qui ckl y.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: - - bef or e t he pr oceedi ng - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease don' t i nt er r upt .
19 MR. COUGHLI N: May I r ecor d t he pr oceedi ngs?
20 MR. KI NG: I ' mhandi ng, wi t h t he chai r man' s
21 per mi ssi on, a copy of t he suppl ement al not i ce.
22 I n addi t i on, as I i ndi cat ed, t he pur pose of
23 cal l i ng Mr . Beesl ey i s t o assi st t he panel t o under st and
24 Mr . Coughl i n' s conduct i n hi s cour t , and al so as a
25 pot ent i al r ebut t al wi t ness. Unf or t unat el y, J udge Beesl ey
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1 i s i n Las Vegas and i s onl y avai l abl e bet ween 9: 00 and
2 9: 30.
3 So what I woul d ask t he panel t o do i s t o
4 al l ow, as an of f er of pr oof , al l ow J udge Beesl ey t o
5 t est i f y. And t hen i f t he panel subsequent l y det er mi nes
6 f or some r eason t hat i t ' s not appr opr i at e, r ebut t al
7 t est i mony - -
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y. I need t o ent er ,
9 t hi s i s a speci al - -
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: - - I need t o submi t t hat f or
12 t he r ecor d.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease don' t i nt er r upt .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I need t o submi t t hat f or t he
15 r ecor d.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' l l get your oppor t uni t y.
17 MR. KI NG: J udge Beesl ey, my name i s Pat r i ck
18 Ki ng. I r epr esent t he St at e Bar of Nevada i n a
19 di sci pl i nar y hear i ng i nvol vi ng Zach Coughl i n. Di d you
20 under st and t hat t hat was t he mat t er i n whi ch you wer e
21 goi ng t o t est i f y t o t hi s mor ni ng?
22 J UDGE BEESLEY: Yes.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: J ust a second, Mr . Ki ng. Let
24 me st at e on t he r ecor d t hat because of t he t i me
25 const r ai nt s, I ' mgoi ng t o r ul e t hat we can t ake t he
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1 t est i mony of J udge Beesl ey, subj ect t o Mr . Coughl i n' s
2 l at er obj ect i on. He does have an obj ect i on. Gi ven t he
3 t i me const r ai nt s, he has not had an oppor t uni t y t o put on
4 t he r ecor d hi s obj ect i on. I ' d l i ke t o t ake t he t est i mony
5 of J udge Beesl ey, and t hen l i st en t o Mr . Coughl i n' s
6 obj ect i on.
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I di d f i l e a - -
8 MR. KI NG: Thank you, Mr . Chai r man.
9 J udge Beesl ey, t he panel consi st s of J ohn
10 Echever r i a - - I ' mnot pr onounci ng t he name - - but t her e' s
11 f i ve panel member s.
12 J UDGE BEESLEY: J ohn Echever r i a. You have not
13 spent enough t i me i n Nevada.
14 MR. KI NG: That i s cor r ect . Thank you f or
15 t hat .
16 Acr oss f r omme i s si t t i ng Mr . Coughl i n,
17 Zachar y Coughl i n. And i n t he r oomal so i s a cour t
18 r epor t er . Ther e' s no one el se i n t he r oomot her t han some
19 cour t secur i t y.
20 So what I ' mgoi ng t o ask you, J udge Beesl ey,
21 i f you coul d expl ai n t o t he panel your knowl edge of
22 Mr . Coughl i n r el at i ve t o t he Nevada Rul es of Pr of essi onal
23 Conduct r el at ed t o - -
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Rel evancy.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Ki ng. We
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1 pr obabl y shoul d admi ni st er t he oat h t o J udge Beesl ey.
2 MR. KI NG: J udge Beesl ey, t he cour t r epor t er
3 wi l l admi ni st er you t he oat h.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mgoi ng t o obj ect on
5 r el evancy gr ounds.
6 BRUCE BEESLEY
7 Havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, t est i f i ed as f ol l ows:
8 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
9 BY MR. KI NG:
10 Q Judge Beesley, can you explain to the panel
11 your knowledge in this relevant time frame 2011-2012
12 regarding Mr. Coughlin and his conduct in your court?
13 A Mr . Coughl i n appear ed i n my cour t a coupl e of
14 t i mes, at l east t wo or t hr ee t i mes. The f i r st t i me I
15 r ecal l hi mcomi ng t o my cour t he came i n, he was wear i ng,
16 I t hi nk, a T- shi r t and a t i e, and no j acket . And he
17 i ndi cat ed t hat he had been evi ct ed f r omhi s r esi dence or
18 hi s of f i ce, i ndi cat i ng i t was not because of not payi ng
19 t he r ent , and t hat t hat was why he wasn' t what I woul d
20 consi der appr opr i at el y dr essed.
21 I apol ogi ze. I don' t have my l et t er i n f r ont
22 of me. But my r ecol l ect i on i s t hat he had f i l ed a
23 pl eadi ng on behal f of hi s cl i ent i n r egar d t o some aspect
24 of a bankr upt cy case, and t hat t he pl eadi ng was l engt hy,
25 di dn' t make any sense, and j ust sor t of r ambl ed t hr ough a
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1 gr eat deal of i r r el evant st uf f .
2 I had hi ma coupl e ot her t i mes i n my cour t and
3 had t he same exper i ence, t hat - - he was dr essed
4 appr opr i at el y t he ot her t i mes I had hi mt her e, and he was
5 ver y pol i t e and appear ed t o be a ver y i nt el l i gent man.
6 But hi s pl eadi ngs di dn' t make any sense. Hi s
7 ar gument s di dn' t make any sense. And I became concer ned
8 t hat he was suf f er i ng f r omal cohol or dr ug abuse or had
9 some sor t of ment al i ssues whi ch wer e pr event i ng hi mf r om
10 bei ng abl e t o r epr esent hi s cl i ent .
11 I t al ked t o - - I made some i nqui r i es of t he
12 cour t and St at e Bar i f t her e was anyt hi ng - - t he f eder al
13 cour t f i r st , i f t her e was anyt hi ng t hat I had aut hor i t y t o
14 do t o t r y and get Mr . Coughl i n some hel p and l ear ned t hat
15 I coul d not .
16 I t hen t al ked t o, I t hi nk I t al ked t o Coe
17 Swobe, who i s Lawyer s Concer ned f or Lawyer s - -
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Rel evancy. Thi s
19 wasn' t not i ced ei t her or - - no - - or ment i oned i n t he
20 DOSEAL, whi ch you di dn' t ser ve appr opr i at el y, and you' r e
21 vi ol at i ng SCR 102 - - 1052( c) .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
23 THE WI TNESS: I t al ked t o Mr . Swobe who
24 i ndi cat ed t hat t he St at e Bar di d have some ser vi ces
25 avai l abl e, and t hat he had been i n cont act wi t h
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1 Mr . Coughl i n. That ' s r eal l y al l he t ol d me.
2 And i t became appar ent t o me t hat over a
3 per i od of a coupl e mont hs at l east and I al so l ear ned of
4 some ot her odd behavi or i n some of t he cour t s wi t h j udges
5 t hat I knew.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Hear say.
7 THE WI TNESS: But based on - -
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Can I get a r ul i ng
9 on my obj ect i on bef or e you cont i nue t est i f yi ng?
10 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o ask t he chai r man t o
11 di r ect Mr . Coughl i n not t o shout or make speaki ng
12 obj ect i ons.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o do t hat . You
14 can do i t - - I appr eci at e bei ng abl e t o be hear d, but we
15 can do i t at a l ower l evel , Mr . Coughl i n.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: You di dn' t seemt o hear me.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: MadamRepor t er , woul d you
18 pl ease r ead back t he answer t o whi ch Mr . Coughl i n was
19 obj ect i ng.
20 ( Recor d r ead by t he r epor t er . )
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The obj ect i on i s hear say.
22 Mr . Ki ng?
23 MR. KI NG: The j udge was j ust about t o t est i f y
24 as t o t he act i on he t ook based on t he i nf or mat i on he
25 r ecei ved, and t hat i s t he pur pose of t he i nf or mat i on i s t o
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1 show why he t ook t he act i on he di d.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
3 MR. KI NG: Thank you, J udge.
4 THE WI TNESS: I ' mnot qui t e sur e wher e I was
5 i n my t est i mony, but based on t he di scussi ons I had, and
6 t he i nf or mat i on I got f r omot her peopl e, i t became
7 appar ent t o me t hat t her e wasn' t a pr ogr amt hat was goi ng
8 t o - -
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Foundat i on.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng?
11 MR. KI NG: The t est i mony i s cl ear . He' s
12 expl ai ni ng t he act i ons he t ook r el at i ve t o Mr . Coughl i n' s
13 conduct , whi ch i s t he pur pose.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: He was speci f yi ng - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: - - no f oundat i on f or what he
18 was asser t i ng.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' ve over r ul ed
20 your obj ect i on.
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease pr oceed, J udge.
23 BY MR. KI NG:
24 Q I apologize, your Honor, for the interruption.
25 But you were just about to testify as to what action you
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1 took with respect to the information you learned.
2 A What I di d was I wr ot e a l et t er t o t he St at e
3 Bar expl ai ni ng what had occur r ed wi t h Mr . Coughl i n,
4 i ndi cat i ng, I bel i eve, t hat I t hought t hat i n hi s cur r ent
5 st at e he was not abl e t o r epr esent hi s cl i ent s adequat el y,
6 and t hat t he St at e Bar shoul d l ook i nt o i t . I t hi nk t hat
7 was t he ext ent of what I di d i n summar y.
8 BY MR. KI NG:
9 Q Based on your actual personal knowledge of
10 Mr. Coughlin, would you believe that he has violated
11 Nevada Rules of Professional Conduct?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Cal l s f or an exper t
13 opi ni on.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. Over r ul ed.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I sai d obj ect i on, Pat .
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n. Set t l e down.
17 You do not need t o yel l i n t hi s pr oceedi ng.
18 BY MR. KI NG:
19 Q Would you be of the opinion --
20 MR. COUGHLI N: I sai d obj ect i on, Pat .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Can we get a r ul i ng f r omt he
23 j udge? Can we have some due pr ocess her e, Pat ?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, do not r ai se
25 your voi ce agai n i n t hi s pr oceedi ng.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I f t hi s i s a pr oceedi ng, i t
2 needs t o be handl ed l i ke a pr oceedi ng accor di ng t o t he
3 r ul es of evi dence.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s t r ue. And t hat ' s what
5 we' r e doi ng.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: No, i t ' s not .
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And I ' mgoi ng t o over r ul e
8 your obj ect i on.
9 Pl ease pr oceed.
10 BY MR. KI NG:
11 Q Have you formed an opinion, your Honor, as to
12 whether or not Mr. Coughlin is competent to practice law?
13 A Yes.
14 Q And what is that opinion?
15 A I don' t bel i eve he i s, unf or t unat el y.
16 MR. KI NG: Thank you ver y much. I have no
17 f ur t her quest i ons. I r eal l y appr eci at e your t i me.
18 The panel i n t hese set t i ngs may ask you
19 quest i ons or t hey may have quest i ons f or you, as wel l as,
20 I suspect , Mr . Coughl i n.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, do you have any
22 cr oss- exami nat i on?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
24
25
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1 CROSS- EXAMI NATI ON
2 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
3 Q Good morning, Judge Beesley, your Honor.
4 A Mor ni ng.
5 Q I'm sorry to hear you feel that way about me,
6 sir, but I would like to ask you a few questions.
7 A Cer t ai nl y.
8 Q I would bet that your statements are made out
9 of concern.
10 A They ar e.
11 Q So I appreciate that, sir. And I don't mean
12 for my reactions this morning to indicate anything other
13 than a complete and utter lack -- a complete and utter
14 respect for you, sir.
15 A I don' t t ake i t any ot her way.
16 Q Thank you, sir. But it's out of a profound
17 respect for the law and due process that I'm acting the
18 way I am.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a quest i on,
20 Mr . Coughl i n?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, I do.
22 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
23 Q Did you have Karen Sabo as a member of your
24 firm at one point?
25 A Yes, I di d.
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1 Q Can you describe any connection between myself
2 and Karen Sabo that you might be aware of?
3 A I ' mnot awar e of any.
4 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r el evance, Mr . Coughl i n?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I coul dn' t hear t he j udge, si r .
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' maski ng you t he r el evance
8 of t hat quest i on.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: But t o t he ext ent t hat t he
10 j udge' s speaker i s r i ght next t o Mr . Ki ng, I bel i eve i t ' s
11 af f or di ng hi man i mper mi ssi bl e advant age. I coul dn' t hear
12 what t he j udge j ust sai d.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Doesn' t mat t er . You asked a
14 quest i on about was J udge Beesl ey awar e of any r el at i onshi p
15 bet ween you and t hi s l ady.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes. J ust f or - -
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wai t a mi nut e. Mr . Ki ng
18 obj ect ed on r el evance. Your pr of f er of r el evancy?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , si r , i f I can j ust
20 pr eser ve f or t he r ecor d. You sai d t hat i f Mr . Ki ng i s
21 obt ai ni ng an i mper mi ssi bl e advant age i t doesn' t mat t er t o
22 you.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I di dn' t say t hat .
24 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s what I hear d.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease addr ess t he i ssue at
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1 hand. What i s t he r el evancy of your r el at i onshi p wi t h
2 t hi s f or mer l awyer and Mr . Beesl ey' s l aw f i r m? You' r e
3 pausi ng on t hat - -
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Because t hi s i s a r espect ed
5 f eder al j udge, si r . But I amsui ng Ms. Sabo' s
6 or gani zat i on r i ght now.
7 MR. KI NG: I woul d obj ect on t he gr ound t hat
8 i t goes beyond t he scope of di r ect .
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r el evancy of t hat ?
10 MR. COUGHLI N: Hi s obj ect i on i s r el evant . My
11 r esponse, wi t h al l due r espect t o t he Honor abl e J udge
12 Beesl ey, i t goes somewhat t o wi t ness bi as.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t he i ssue i s
14 ver y nar r ow. The quest i on i s what i s t he r el evancy of
15 your r el at i onshi p wi t h t hi s Ms. Sabo? How i s t hat
16 r el evant t o t he i ssues i n t hi s pr oceedi ng?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I bel i eve i t bear s on J udge
18 Beesl ey' s t est i mony. I don' t know qui t e t he ext ent t o
19 whi ch - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Obj ect i on sust ai ned.
21 MR. KI NG: For t he r ecor d, t he j udge di d
22 answer . And f or Mr . Coughl i n' s benef i t , he sai d he was
23 not awar e of any such r el at i onshi p.
24 Di d I mi schar act er i ze your t est i mony, your
25 Honor ?
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1 THE WI TNESS: That ' s what I sai d.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Next quest i on, pl ease.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I cl ar i f y? He wasn' t awar e
4 of any such r el at i onshi p meani ng?
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, pl ease addr ess
6 anot her i ssue.
7 MR. COUGHLI N: A basi s f or conf l i ct . Yes,
8 si r .
9 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
10 Q Judge Beesley, did you testify on behalf of
11 Stephen R. Harris recently?
12 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r el evance, Mr . Coughl i n?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I di dn' t hear J udge Beesl ey
15 agai n.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That doesn' t mat t er .
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I t doesn' t mat t er t hat Pat can
18 hear hi m, but I can' t hear hi m?
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I can' t hear t he j udge
20 ei t her , because you i nt er r upt ed hi m.
21 MR. COUGHLI N: J ust now?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes. Ther e' s an obj ect i on as
23 t o r el evancy as t o whet her or not what r el evancy - -
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I obj ect ed. I di dn' t i nt er r upt
25 hi m.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I asked you t o expl ai n t he
2 r el evancy.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . I ' mt r yi ng t o
4 r emember t he quest i on.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The quest i on was di d he
6 t est i f y on behal f of Mr . Har r i s. The r el evance of t hat
7 i ssue i n t hi s pr oceedi ng?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , I t hi nk i t pr ovi des a
9 basi s f or me compar i ng J udge Beesl ey' s r esponse t o me
10 bei ng evi ct ed t o hi s r esponse t o Mr . Har r i s' s i ssues.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed - - I ' msor r y,
12 sust ai ned. Next quest i on, pl ease.
13 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
14 Q Judge Beesley, what in particular did you
15 notice about my work product -- when did you first contact
16 Mr. King about me?
17 A When di d I f i r st cont act who?
18 Q Mr. King. Bar counsel for the State Bar.
19 A I don' t know t hat I ever cont act ed Mr . Ki ng.
20 I sent a l et t er t o t he St at e Bar . I t hi nk i t was pr obabl y
21 addr essed t o Mr . Cl ar k, but I ' mnot posi t i ve.
22 Q So I'm sorry for that, your Honor. I do
23 recall you saying you sent a letter now.
24 Did you ever speak with Bar counsel Patrick
25 King with regard to me?
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1 A The onl y t i me I r ecal l speaki ng t o hi mwas a
2 f ew weeks ago or a f ew days - - pr obabl y a f ew weeks ago
3 when he asked me i f I woul d be abl e t o t est i f y at t hi s
4 hear i ng.
5 Q Are you aware of any extent to which Mr. King
6 has violated SCR 121's confidentiality dictates by
7 contacting my clients prior to any SCR 11 petition?
8 A Hol d on one second. Go ahead. I ' msor r y. Am
9 I awar e t hat Mr . Ki ng vi ol at ed a par t i cul ar st at ut e? I n
10 what manner ?
11 Q Whether or not he violated one?
12 A No, I ' mnot , one way or t he ot her .
13 Q Do you have knowledge of there being a motive
14 for Mr. King to all of a sudden seek to bring you into
15 this forum in that he has been subject to an accusation
16 setting forth a basis for this proceeding that relies
17 primarily upon some contention that you or -- I believe
18 you yourself, your Honor, because you're the only
19 bankruptcy judge I appeared before -- but Mr. King telling
20 his boss and, apparently, at least one of my clients prior
21 to my being suspended or even the petition being filed,
22 that your court had issued an order preventing me from
23 practicing there?
24 A I have no i dea what Mr . Ki ng may or may not
25 have sai d t o anybody. But I do not r ecal l i ssui ng an
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1 or der t hat sai d you coul dn' t pr act i ce t her e.
2 Q So can I take that to mean you haven't issued
3 any such order?
4 A I don' t t hi nk so. I si gn pr obabl y 150 or der s
5 ever y day. So I don' t r emember al l of t hem. I t hi nk
6 cer t ai nl y I woul d have r emember ed a case not al l owi ng you
7 t o pr act i ce t her e. But i f I di d, i t woul d have been
8 because I was concer ned t hat you wer en' t abl e t o r epr esent
9 your cl i ent s adequat el y, and t hey wer e bei ng hur t . But I
10 don' t know t hat I di d t hat .
11 Q What review did you undertake of my work
12 product and filings in your court to come to your
13 opinions?
14 A I l ooked t hr ough t wo or t hr ee pl eadi ngs t hat
15 you had f i l ed i n, I t hi nk you had one or per haps t wo
16 cases, and r ead t hem. And I obser ved you ar gui ng i n
17 cour t .
18 Q When specifically?
19 A I don' t r ecal l .
20 Q Was your testimony earlier today that the
21 first time you recall being aware of me was when I
22 appeared at the March 15th hearing in Cado Company v.
23 Keller at 2:30 P.M. shortly after being evicted at
24 gunpoint by the Washoe County Sheriffs --
25 A I act ual l y t hi nk you had appear ed i n f r ont of
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1 me one t i me bef or e t hat . But t hat was my f i r st st r ong
2 r ecol l ect i on of you appear i ng i n f r ont of me.
3 Q And it was that brief interaction whereupon
4 you formed your opinion that I wasn't fit to practice?
5 A No. I t hought i t was odd, but I do under st and
6 t hat peopl e have adver si t y i n t hei r l i ves somet i mes, whi ch
7 happens - -
8 Q You took it to be adversity rather than
9 misconduct by the sheriff?
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you i nt er r upt ed
11 t he wi t ness.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead, J udge.
14 THE WI TNESS: And I bel i eve t hat you had f i l ed
15 some pl eadi ng i n t hat case. And I went t o t he pl eadi ngs,
16 and t hey f r ankl y di dn' t make any sense. And I t hi nk you
17 subsequent l y f i l ed pl eadi ngs i n ot her cases whi ch al so
18 di dn' t make any sense, and I became concer ned.
19 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
20 Q At what point did you --
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Coughl i n.
22 Qui t i nt er r upt i ng t he wi t ness.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hought he was done, si r .
24 I ' msor r y.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead, J udge.
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1 THE WI TNESS: I became concer ned, and I
2 under t ook f ur t her i nqui r y wi t h Mr . Swobe f ol l owi ng t hat .
3 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
4 Q Your Honor, I would like to narrow it down.
5 When did you first contact the State Bar about me?
6 A I don' t r ecal l . I act ual l y cont act ed Coe
7 Swobe who wor ks f or t he St at e Bar , but i s i ndependent of
8 t hemi n most ways.
9 Q When did you first contact Mr. Swobe?
10 A I t hi nk i t was per haps a mont h or si x weeks
11 af t er my f i r st r ecol l ect i on of you appear i ng, my f i r st
12 r ecol l ect i on of you appear i ng i n f r ont of me af t er you had
13 been evi ct ed.
14 Q You would be referring to the T-shirt and tie
15 incident?
16 A Yes.
17 Q With a suit jacket on though?
18 A Yeah. And your apol ogy was sat i sf act or y,
19 al t hough I t hought your appear ance was odd.
20 Q Do you recall a hearing prior to that in that
21 same Cado Company v. Keller wherein Cado sought to amend
22 their adversary proceeding charges, and there was maybe a
23 five- to ten-minute hearing on that incident to which I
24 submitted about a 15-page motion addressing the salient
25 points of law in that setting?
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1 A I cannot pl ace i t i n t he cont ext of t hat case.
2 But I do r emember you submi t t i ng a mot i on descr i bi ng some
3 poi nt s of l aw on somet hi ng, and I di dn' t t hi nk t hat t hat
4 was compet ent wor k, f r ankl y.
5 Q You're referring to which motion?
6 A I don' t know. I don' t have any mot i on i n
7 f r ont of me.
8 Q So you have a fairly strong opinion on it, yet
9 you don't recall any specifics. Would that be an accurate
10 assessment of your testimony?
11 A What I r ecal l i s t hat your appear ance i n cour t
12 was odd, and your pl eadi ngs wer e not t r ul y compr ehensi bl e,
13 and t hat and f ur t her i nqui r es made me concer ned t hat you
14 wer e havi ng some di f f i cul t i es t hat pr event ed you f r om
15 ser vi ng your cl i ent appr opr i at el y.
16 Q Did you find any of my work competent?
17 A I don' t bel i eve I di d.
18 Q Not a single filing?
19 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
21 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
22 Q Sir, are you aware I was ranked 10th in my law
23 school class, and a National Merit finalist?
24 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Beyond t he scope of
25 di r ect .
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: He t est i f i ed as t o my
2 compet ency and my cr edi bi l i t y as a l awyer and a
3 pr of essi onal .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Your quest i on had t o do wi t h
5 what t i me f r ame?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I t has t o do wi t h my
7 capabi l i t i es.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I n l aw school ?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I n l i f e.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: But you asked about a
11 speci f i c event . Di d t hat occur i n l aw school ?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: What event ?
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The mer i t schol ar t hi ng.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: No. That ' s a st andar di zed
15 t est . The t op hal f of one per cent of al l hi gh school
16 j uni or s ar e sel ect ed as nat i onal mer i t f i nal i st s.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' r e i nqui r i ng about a hi gh
18 school t est ?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mi nqui r i ng about t he j udge' s
20 r epr esent at i on t hat he hasn' t f ound one f i l i ng of mi ne
21 compet ent . And t he r eason I ' mgoi ng i nt o t hat i s I
22 bel i eve i t goes t o t hi s j udge' s cr edi bi l i t y, f r ankl y.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned. Next quest i on,
24 pl ease.
25 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
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1 Q Your Honor, I'd like to narrow down some of
2 these assessments you've made vis-a-vis when they
3 occurred.
4 A Unl ess you can show me t he document , I don' t
5 t hi nk I can hel p you wi t h t hat .
6 Q But you've testified pretty definitively here
7 today. So wouldn't that indicate some negligence on your
8 behalf in that regard?
9 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
11 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
12 Q Your Honor, do you have any specific points of
13 law or issues with which you can elucidate why you
14 question my competency to practice in your court?
15 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Asked and answer ed.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
17 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
18 Q Do you recall any of my work product in Cado
19 and Company?
20 A Not speci f i cal l y, no. I r emember a f ai r l y
21 l engt hy br i ef t hat you f i l ed whi ch, I t hi nk, was t hat
22 case, t hat I t hought was r ambl i ng, addr essi ng poi nt s of
23 l aw whi ch wer en' t r el evant . I t hi nk had some di scussi ons
24 of hi st or i cal mat t er s and some di scussi ons of per haps
25 const i t ut i onal l aw, but i t wasn' t r eal l y r el evant t o t he
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1 mat t er t hat was i n f r ont of me.
2 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, i f you coul d be
3 mi ndf ul of t he f act t hat t he j udge has a hear i ng he needs
4 t o at t end, and advi se Mr . Coughl i n t hat he needs t o be
5 j udi ci ous i n hi s quest i ons.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We have i ssued an or der ,
7 Mr . Coughl i n, t hat l i mi t s t he exami nat i on of wi t nesses on
8 each si de t o 15 mi nut es. You have sl i ght l y exceeded 15
9 mi nut es. I f you have a f ew mor e quest i ons t o r api dl y wr ap
10 t hi s up.
11 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
12 Q Your Honor, on Cado Company, wouldn't it
13 indicate a fairly high level of skill, particularly for
14 one who hadn't been practicing in a bankruptcy setting for
15 very long at all for, one, to deduce that in that case
16 Cado had issues with respect to the fact that they had not
17 renewed a dormant foreign judgment in that under the Texas
18 statute at issue, given the fact that the judgment was
19 over ten years old, and within the two years under the
20 statute within which they had to take some act to revive a
21 dormant judgment, they failed to do so. Wouldn't the fact
22 that I pointed that out in a brief, and specifically cited
23 to relevant legal research with respect to what particular
24 acts would qualify as reviving a dormant judgment in that
25 respect, wouldn't that indicate some level of competency?
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1 A I di d not ever say t hat I di d not t hi nk you
2 ar e hi ghl y i nt el l i gent . I t hi nk you ar e. But
3 i nt el l i gence and l egal compet ence ar e not t he same t hi ng.
4 I t hi nk you have a si gni f i cant l ack of abi l i t y t o f ocus on
5 t he i ssues at hand, but you' r e ver y smar t .
6 Q If I pointed out, which I believe I did in
7 that case, that Cado, by having a vice president file an
8 affidavit seeking to register a foreign judgment, that
9 their doing so violated NRCP 11, in that a corporation
10 such as Cado is not entitled to appear pro se, to wit
11 through a vice president who is not an attorney, wouldn't
12 that evince some level of capability as an attorney
13 sufficient to avoid having a federal judge respond to
14 Mr. King's imploring him to badmouth me at a hearing?
15 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
17 MR. KI NG: Thank you.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I appr eci abl e your t i me, your
19 Honor .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng f ur t her , Mr . Ki ng?
21 MR. KI NG: No. Any quest i ons of t he panel ?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any quest i ons of t he panel ?
23 Thank you, J udge Beesl ey.
24 MR. KI NG: Appr eci at e your t i me t hi s mor ni ng.
25 Thank you ver y much.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We t ook t hat t est i mony under
2 consi der at i on of your obj ect i on. Let ' s hear your
3 obj ect i on, Mr . Coughl i n.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . Wel l , I bel i eve
5 J udge Beesl ey was i dent i f i ed i n a suppl ement t o
6 Mr . Ki ng' s, I ' l l cal l i t a DowSoE, and I hope t he panel
7 wi l l know what I mean, desi gnat i on of wi t ness' s summar y of
8 evi dence. I ' ve shor t ened i t i n my f i l i ngs.
9 Whi ch, i nci dent l y, SCR 1052( c) i s one of t he
10 f ew pr ocedur al r ul es i n t he supr eme cour t r ul es desi gned
11 t o af f or d at t or neys or suspended at t or neys, such as
12 mysel f , some due pr ocess. That r ul e r equi r es t hat t he
13 DowSoE be ser ved i n t he same manner i n whi ch t he compl ai nt
14 i s ser ved upon t he r espondent by t he panel wi t h at l east
15 30 days not i ce, or at l east 30 days pr i or t o t he hear i ng.
16 Thi s panel wasn' t even empanel ed unt i l , I
17 bel i eve t he or der was Oct ober 30t h. Mr . Ki ng pur por t s t o
18 have sent t he DowSoE hi msel f r at her t han i n some
19 separ at i on i n accor d wi t h t he r ul e, but he sent i t
20 hi msel f . On Oct ober 12t h he f i l ed mat er i al suggest i ng
21 t hat he sent a cer t i f i ed mai l Oct ober 12t h, and i n t hat
22 way i t ' s compl et el y vi ol at i ve of t he r ul es. Compl et el y.
23 And St eve Har r i s, who t he j udge t est i f i ed t o,
24 who was - - he admi t t ed t o mi sappr opr i at i ng 800K.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Har r i s i s not t he subj ect
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1 mat t er of t hi s hear i ng. You ar e.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: He got Davi d Gr undy. And he
3 got hi s DowSoE sent by t he panel . And he got hi s f ul l 30
4 days. And I sent t hat f or war d - -
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot concer ned wi t h
6 Mr . Har r i s. Di d you get not i ce t hat J udge Beesl ey woul d
7 be t est i f yi ng?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Maybe - - I woul d l i ke t o check
9 my r ecor ds, but l i ke a coupl e days bef or e t hi s hear i ng. A
10 coupl e days.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Was t hat a suppl ement al
12 desi gnat i on?
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I s t hat per mi t t ed?
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t i s per mi t t ed,
16 per haps i f somet hi ng comes up out of t he bl ue t hat ' s
17 r eal l y bear i ng, but Mr . Ki ng' s known about t hi s f or qui t e
18 some t i me.
19 And, i n f act , I ' ve f i l ed a compl ai nt wi t h, I
20 bel i eve I i ncl uded t hi s i n my compl ai nt wi t h St at e Bar
21 pr esi dent Lar don - - I hope I ' msayi ng t hat cor r ect l y - -
22 under SCR, I want t o say 104( 3) i n t hat I bel i eve upon
23 i nf or mat i on and bel i ef t hat Mr . Ki ng cont act ed one of my
24 cl i ent s or maybe one of my cl i ent s cont act ed hi mi n ear l y
25 May - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mf ocusi ng on your
2 obj ect i on t o t he t est i mony of J udge Beesl ey. Do you cl ai m
3 any pr ej udi ce because of t hat ?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s t hat pr ej udi ce?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Lack of not i ce.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: How does t he l ack of not i ce
8 l ead t o pr ej udi ce? You seemt o be ver y f ami l i ar wi t h
9 cases t hat appear ed - - i n whi ch you appear ed i n f r ont of
10 J udge Beesl ey.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: I wasn' t . I wasn' t as shar p on
12 t hat Cado st uf f , because I di dn' t t hi nk I needed t o be
13 t hi s mor ni ng, and I coul d have been a l ot shar per on t hat .
14 I r eal l y coul d have.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o over r ul e t he
16 obj ect i on. I t hi nk t he not i ce was sent . Mr . Coughl i n was
17 awar e t hat J udge Beesl ey woul d be t est i f yi ng, and unl ess
18 t he panel has any obj ect i on t o J udge Beesl ey, woul d accept
19 t hat t est i mony.
20 Next wi t ness, Mr . Ki ng.
21 MR. KI NG: I f I coul d, I wi l l ask t hat t hi s
22 packet be mar ked f or i dent i f i cat i on pur poses as Exhi bi t 1.
23 ( Exhi bi t 1 mar ked. )
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Coul d you descr i be f or t he
25 r ecor d, Mr . Ki ng, what t hat packet i s?
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1 MR. KI NG: Thi s i s t he f or mal hear i ng packet .
2 I t was pr ovi ded t o each member of t he panel . I t i s
3 i dent i f i ed as t he Zachar y B. Coughl i n f or mal hear i ng. I t
4 has t he gr i evance number s and t he dat e of November 14t h,
5 2012, begi nni ng at 8: 45. I t has an i ndex on t he f r ont
6 showi ng t he cont ent s, and wi t hi n t he packet i t i ncl udes
7 some of t he appl i cabl e Nevada Rul es of Pr of essi onal
8 Conduct t hat t he panel may f i nd r el evant t o t hi s case. I n
9 addi t i on, a copy of t he compl ai nt and t he not i ce of t he
10 hear i ng, as wel l as a mot i on f i l ed by Mr . Coughl i n, as
11 wel l as t he f i r st desi gnat i on of hear i ng panel member s.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Fr audul ent r et ur n of ser vi ce.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Coughl i n.
14 MR. KI NG: So I woul d ask t hat t hi s be
15 admi t t ed as Exhi bi t No. 1.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, any obj ect i on?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d obj ect based on t he
18 f act t hat Mr . Ki ng' s vi ol at i ng NRCP 11. And he knows t he
19 r et ur ns of ser vi ce ar e f r audul ent .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That he knows what ?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: He knows t he r et ur ns - - t hat
22 he' s submi t t i ng t hat i s f r audul ent .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: How so?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Because one, t he not i ce of t he
25 hear i ng, he' s at t ached a cer t i f i ed mai l i ng t hat says i t
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1 was mai l ed out on t he 12t h. Wel l , i f you do a t r acki ng
2 conf i r mon t he USPS Websi t e, i t says t he f i r st t i me i t was
3 scanned i nt o t hei r ser vi ce was t he 16t h. Fur t her , i t says
4 I di dn' t get i t unt i l t he 27t h. Fur t her , i t says I
5 coul dn' t have got t en i t - - t he soonest I coul d have got t en
6 i t was t he 22nd, t hr ough no f aul t of my own.
7 Now, t hat mi ght have been due t o, one, i t
8 di dn' t get i nt o t he syst emunt i l t he 16t h, and I can
9 t est i f y t o t hat i n some r espect . But even beyond t hat , i t
10 di dn' t get i nt o my mai l box or become avai l abl e t o me,
11 accor di ng t o t he USPS t r acki ng conf i r mWebsi t e, because i t
12 get s t hat speci f i c, unt i l t he 22nd.
13 Now, we' r e speaki ng about t he not i ce of t he
14 hear i ng, whi ch i s al so, accor di ng t o SCR 1052( c) , supposed
15 t o i ncl ude t he DowSoE. And t hat i s agai n supposed t o be
16 sent by t he panel . And t hat ser vi ce by t he panel , whi ch
17 i s supposed t o be i n accor dance wi t h SCR 109, i s supposed
18 t o be such t hat t he hear i ng, I woul d be ser ved not i ce of
19 t he hear i ng i n t he DowSoE no l ess t han 30 days pr i or t o
20 t he hear i ng.
21 I nst ead, Mr . Ki ng, whi ch he' s wont t o do ever y
22 chance he get s, ever y chance Mr . Ki ng get s, he want s t o
23 pl ay t he di r ect or . And he' s t aki ng on t he panel ' s r ol e,
24 he' s cont r ol l i ng t he cl er k of cour t her e, he' s, I bel i eve,
25 cont r ol l i ng my cl i ent s and of f er i ng t hemat t or neys - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mi nt er est ed i n an
2 obj ect i on t o Exhi bi t 1 bei ng admi t t ed, and your obj ect i on
3 i s i mpr oper ser vi ce?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: That i t ' s f r aud. Mr . Ki ng' s
5 commi t t i ng f r aud by pr esent i ng t hat t o t he cour t .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Because of i mpr oper ser vi ce?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: Because of - - t he St at e Bar has
8 r epr esent ed t o me, one, t hat t he 823 pur por t ed cer t i f i ed
9 mai l i ng woul d not be pr esent ed as a r et ur n of ser vi ce.
10 And t hat ' s what he' s doi ng her e, he' s pr esent i ng t hat as a
11 r et ur n of ser vi ce t o get ar ound t he f act t hat when I
12 appear ed her e on Sept ember 25t h Mr . Ki ng pul l ed my j acket
13 f or a hear i ng, f or t he hear i ng I ' msupposed t o get - -
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s f ocus on - -
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I am. But t hi s i s ver y
16 i mpor t ant .
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No, you' r e not , si r . I ' m
18 i nt er est ed i n what your obj ect i on i s t o t he admi ssi on of
19 Exhi bi t 1. You say i t ' s f r aud. That ' s a br oad
20 concl usi on. I s i t f r aud because of i mpr oper ser vi ce?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s f r aud because he' s seeki ng
22 t o avoi d what happened on t he 25t h. He' s goi ng agai nst
23 what t he St at e Bar t ol d me.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I have no i dea what happened
25 on t he 25t h. I ' mi nt er est ed i n your expl anat i on of f r aud.
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1 I ' ve asked you t hr ee t i mes. I ' ve been unabl e t o obt ai n a
2 meani ngf ul answer . I ' mgoi ng t o over r ul e your obj ect i on.
3 Mr . Ki ng.
4 ( Exhi bi t 1 admi t t ed i nt o evi dence. )
5 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o hand t hi s back t o t he
6 cour t r epor t er , si nce i t ' s t he one t hat ' s been mar ked.
7 I wi l l cal l my next wi t ness, at t or ney Ri char d
8 Hi l l .
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wi l l he be appear i ng l i ve,
10 Mr . Ki ng?
11 MR. KI NG: Yes.
12 RI CHARD HI LL
13 havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, t est i f i ed as f ol l ows:
14 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
15 BY MR. KI NG:
16 Q Mr. Hill, you know me. I'm Patrick King,
17 assistant Bar counsel representing the State Bar of Nevada
18 in a formal disciplinary hearing against Mr. Zach
19 Coughlin. Did you understand that's why you're here this
20 morning?
21 A Yes, si r .
22 Q Could you state your name and spell it for the
23 record.
24 A Ri char d Hi l l . H- I - L- L.
25 Q And could you explain to the panel how long
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1 you've been practicing law, and if you are in good
2 standing with the State Bar of Nevada?
3 A I have been pr act i ci ng f or 33 year s and ami n
4 good st andi ng.
5 Q Where is your office located?
6 A 652 For est St r eet i n Reno.
7 Q Did there come a time when you were involved
8 with a Zachary Coughlin?
9 A Yes, si r .
10 Q And would you recognize Zachary Coughlin?
11 A Yes, si r .
12 Q And is he in this room?
13 A Yes. He' s seat ed t o my r i ght .
14 Q And how did you first come into contact with
15 Mr. Coughlin?
16 A Wel l , I was hi r ed by a Dr . Mat t hew Mer l i ss.
17 My of f i ce was t o r emove a t enant f r oma home at 121 Ri ver
18 Rock i n Reno. Dr . Mer l i ss had been goi ng back and f or t h
19 wi t h Mr . Coughl i n f or sever al mont hs. Mr . Coughl i n had
20 not pai d any r ent f or , at t hat poi nt I bel i eve i t was - -
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Lack of f oundat i on.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You di dn' t obj ect t o t he
23 quest i on. Over r ul ed.
24 THE WI TNESS: We got i nt o l ooki ng at what had
25 gone on. And Mr . Coughl i n had f abr i cat ed r easons why he
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1 shoul dn' t be payi ng r ent , habi t abi l i t y cl ai ms. We st ar t ed
2 of f - -
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Rel evancy.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
5 THE WI TNESS: We st ar t ed of f wi t h, I bel i eve
6 i t was a r ent .
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I s he j ust t est i f yi ng i n t he
8 nar r at i ve? I s he goi ng t o si t her e al l day so I can' t
9 obj ect t o anyt hi ng because he i sn' t aski ng any quest i ons?
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He asked a quest i on.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t even r emember t he
12 quest i on, i t was so l ong ago f r omt he monol og Mr . Hi l l i s
13 gi vi ng.
14 MR. KI NG: I ' l l br eak i t down i f t he chai r
15 woul d appr eci at e i t .
16 BY MR. KI NG:
17 Q Mr. Hill, was Dr. Merliss -- was Mr. Coughlin,
18 rather, was he the tenant that you were referring to?
19 A Yes, si r .
20 Q And did you end up representing Dr. Merliss in
21 an eviction action?
22 A My of f i ce di d. I assi gned t he case t o my
23 associ at e at t he t i me, Casey Baker .
24 Q Did you end up taking over that matter?
25 A I have now, yes.
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1 Q And as a result of your dealings with
2 Mr. Coughlin, did you form an opinion as to his competency
3 to be a lawyer?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Cal l s f or a l egal
5 concl usi on. Exper t t est i mony. I don' t bel i eve Mr . Hi l l
6 i s qual i f i ed.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
8 THE WI TNESS: Yes, I di d.
9 BY MR. KI NG:
10 Q And let's start with your conclusion, and then
11 work backwards. Is Mr. Coughlin competent to be a lawyer?
12 A No, he i s not .
13 Q Could you describe to the panel in a
14 chronological manner some of the events that you have
15 personal knowledge of that exhibited this behavior that
16 formed your opinion?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Rel evancy.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
19 THE WI TNESS: I ' ve r ead vi r t ual l y ever yt hi ng
20 t hat Mr . Coughl i n has f i l ed, not onl y i n t he Depar t ment 7
21 evi ct i on case, and bef or e t hat t he Reno J ust i ce Cour t ' s
22 evi ct i on case. He' s now got - - had t wo appeal s t o t he
23 Nevada Supr eme Cour t i n t hat case, and I ' ve r ead vi r t ual l y
24 ever yt hi ng t hat he' s done.
25 I ' ve al so f ol l owed t he f i l i ngs t hat he' s had
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1 i n hi s deal i ngs wi t h Washoe Legal Ser vi ces. And I ' ve
2 f ol l owed t he f i l i ngs t hat he had i n t he supr eme cour t
3 di sci pl i ne mat t er s.
4 And you see t he same t hi ng r unni ng t hr ough al l
5 of hi s paper s. Hi s f i l i ngs ar e basi cal l y st r eamof
6 consci ousness. To say t hey ar e di sr espect f ul t o t he Bar ,
7 t o t he cour t , t o t he ot her l i t i gant s, t o t hi r d par t i es i s
8 an under st at ement . He uses a cut and past e so what
9 happens i s as t he mat t er goes on, t hey t end t o become
10 l onger , because he j ust keeps f i l i ng t he same st uf f .
11 I n t he appeal - - we had r ecover ed a $42, 000
12 at t or ney' s f ee awar d agai nst Mr . Coughl i n f or handl i ng
13 j ust hi s appeal of t he evi ct i on. He woul d f i l e t hese
14 document s t hat woul d have a capt i on on i t t hat woul d
15 i ndi cat e t hat i t was a mot i on under Rul e 59, f or exampl e.
16 And you woul d get i nt o i t , and t her e woul d be no ment i on
17 i n t he body of Rul e 59, t her e woul d be no anal ysi s of Rul e
18 59, but we woul d have t o r un down al l of t he l i t t l e i ssues
19 t hat he woul d r ai se on t he of f chance t hat i f you don' t
20 r espond t o one, t he di st r i ct cour t j udge i s goi ng t o f i nd
21 somet hi ng t hat he t hi nks i s i mpor t ant , and t he cl i ent ends
22 up havi ng an adver se r esul t .
23 $42, 000 on a no- cause 30- day evi ct i on, and
24 t hat ' s j ust f or t he appeal of i t , i s absol ut el y
25 ast r onomi cal . But t hat shoul d t el l you - - I have pr ovi ded
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1 Mr . Ki ng wi t h a copy of J udge Fl anagan' s or der s i n whi ch
2 he set s f or t h t he r easons f or such an ext r aor di nar y awar d,
3 bei ng Mr . Coughl i n' s behavi or , and t he qual i t y of t he wor k
4 t hat he was f i l i ng.
5 We have subsequent l y asked and r ecei ved an
6 or der f r omJ udge Fl anagan desi gnat i ng Mr . Coughl i n as a
7 vexat i ous l i t i gat or under J or dan ver sus DMV, and r ul i ng
8 t hat we do not have t o r espond t o anyt hi ng he f i l es i n
9 t hat cour t r oom, absent a cour t or der di r ect i ng us t o do
10 so.
11 At t hi s poi nt he has an appeal pendi ng. Two
12 appeal s. He appeal ed t he at t or ney' s f ees awar ds, and t hat
13 was j ust di smi ssed l ast week because he di dn' t do anyt hi ng
14 wi t h i t .
15 MR. KI NG: Mr . Hi l l , l et me ask anot her
16 quest i on.
17 BY MR. KI NG:
18 Q Did you end up getting an eviction order
19 removing Mr. Coughlin from Dr. Merliss's home?
20 A We di d.
21 Q Subsequent to the eviction order, was
22 Mr. Coughlin removed from the home?
23 A I ' msor r y. Ther e was an or der i ssued i n cour t
24 t hat gave Mr . Coughl i n a week t o vacat e. I bel i eve i t was
25 November 1 t hat my wi f e, my associ at e - - and my associ at e,
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1 went t o t he home wi t h t he sher i f f and conduct ed a l ockout .
2 The f r ont door l ocks wer e changed. The back door l ocks
3 wer e changed.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. Obj ect i on what ?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Hear say.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Hear say? Over r ul ed.
8 THE WI TNESS: And t he whol e t hi ng was
9 vi deot aped. The next day I went t o t he home t o vi deot ape
10 t he pl ace t o pr eser ve what was t her e t o pr event any
11 ar gument s l at er , because by t hat poi nt i n t i me we knew
12 what we wer e deal i ng wi t h.
13 I get t her e, and t he f r ont door i s l ocked, but
14 al most al l t he wi ndows ar e cl osed but unl ocked, and t he
15 back door i s unl ocked. And I , of cour se, go t hr ough, l ock
16 ever yt hi ng, make sur e t he pl ace i s secur e, vi deot aped i t .
17 And I went back and r ead my wi f e and my associ at e t he r i ot
18 act , and t hey bot h sai d no, t he door s wer e l ocked. Okay.
19 I go back t he next day, same t hi ng. Back
20 door ' s unl ocked, wi ndows ar e unl ocked. Thi s cont i nues f or
21 t he next t wo weeks.
22 Mr . Coughl i n i s sendi ng out e- mai l s t o us but
23 wi l l not , appar ent l y, r ead t he e- mai l s we' r e sendi ng t o
24 hi msayi ng we have t o get your st uf f out of her e. No
25 r esponse.
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1 Two weeks af t er t he evi ct i on on a Sunday
2 Dr . Mer l i ss comes t o t own and says, I want t o see t he
3 house. I meet hi mabout 10: 30, 11: 00 o' cl ock on a Sunday
4 mor ni ng at t he house. We go i n. Back door i s open.
5 Ther e' s f ood wr apper s on t he count er t hat ' ve been t her e
6 t hat wer en' t t her e t he l ast t i me I was i n. Wi ndows ar e
7 open agai n, and i t ' s a ver y exacer bat i ng si t uat i on.
8 And he says, I want t o check t he basement . I
9 di dn' t know t her e was a basement i n t he house. Ther e' s
10 t hi ngs pi l ed i n t he st ai r wel l t o get down i nt o t he
11 basement , t ool ki t s, and heavy st uf f .
12 We get i t out of t he way. We get down t her e.
13 And I can see when he pushes on t he door , and he t ur ns t o
14 me, and he says, " I t ' s bar r i caded, " f r omt he i nsi de. I t
15 wasn' t l ocked, i t was bar r i caded.
16 We know what ' s goi ng on. So we cal l t he
17 pol i ce. The pol i ce come over . They t r y t o get Zach out
18 of t he basement , whoever was i n t her e at t hat poi nt . The
19 pol i ce bang on t he door , " Come on out , Zach. Pol i ce. You
20 have t o go. " No r esponse. They t ur ned t o us and say,
21 we' r e goi ng t o l eave. Wai t a mi nut e. I ' mt he owner . You
22 have t he aut hor i t y t o br eak t he door down. " We don' t do
23 t hat . "
24 So Dr . Mer l i ss goes down t o t he bot t omof t he
25 st ai r s. Dr . Mer l i ss ki cks t he door open, and t he pol i ce
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1 of f i cer st i cks hi s head ar ound t he cor ner and pul l s hi s
2 gun out , and her e' s Mr . Coughl i n down t her e. Mr . Coughl i n
3 vol unt ar i l y came upst ai r s wi t h hi s dog and was pl aced
4 under ar r est .
5 Af t er he l ef t , we went downst ai r s.
6 Mr . Coughl i n had a dwel l i ng set up. He had wat er . He had
7 f ood. He had a hot pl at e, a mi cr owave, had hi s comput er
8 set up down t her e. He had t he dog. Ther e was dog f ood,
9 dog poop. He had a bed and hi s comput er syst emset up
10 down t her e.
11 He was ar r est ed and was subsequent l y convi ct ed
12 of cr i mi nal t r espass.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Rel evancy. I f he' s
14 t est i f yi ng about t r espass, t hat ' s one t hi ng. But he' s
15 t est i f yi ng about a l ot of st uf f beyond t r espass.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
17 THE WI TNESS: I f I may. One mor e t hi ng about
18 t he basement .
19 When we ul t i mat el y got down i nt o t he basement
20 t o r emove hi s possessi ons, I count ed 14 aut omobi l e seat s
21 down i n t he basement , i ncl udi ng one t hat was i dent i f i ed t o
22 me as bei ng t he f r ont bench seat out of a Bl azer . The
23 backyar d - -
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Rel evancy. I ' ve been hear i ng
25 you t al k about a Bl azer f or mont hs - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: - - wher e your - -
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned, Mr . Coughl i n.
4 ( Exhi bi t 2 mar ked. )
5 BY MR. KI NG:
6 Q Mr. Hill, do you recognize that document?
7 A Thi s i s t he at t or ney' s f ees or der f r omJ udge
8 Fl anagan.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I obj ect , your Honor .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wai t a mi nut e, Mr . Coughl i n.
11 Wai t .
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ther e' s a quest i on, Mr . Ki ng?
14 MR. KI NG: Yes. I asked Mr . Hi l l i f t hi s was
15 t he or der t hat he was t est i f yi ng about r egar di ng t he j udge
16 or der i ng of sanct i ons of $40, 000 i n at t or ney' s f ees.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have an obj ect i on t o
18 t hat quest i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , si r , I t hought he was
20 put t i ng i t i nt o evi dence. So I pr obabl y was t oo ear l y t o
21 obj ect .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s why you i nt er r upt ed
23 t oo ear l y?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah. I ' msor r y.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Hi l l .
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1 THE WI TNESS: Yes, si r . Thi s i s t he awar d
2 r egar di ng at t or ney' s f ees i n accor dance wi t h NRS 69, I
3 bel i eve i t ' s 050. Ther e i s al so an or der gr ant i ng us
4 appr oxi mat el y $2500 i n cost s.
5 BY MR. KI NG:
6 Q In this particular order at Page 2, is this
7 the order signed by Judge Flanagan?
8 A Yes, si r .
9 Q What date did Judge Flanagan sign this order?
10 A Thi s i s dat ed J une 25t h, 2012, and i t bear s a
11 f i l e st amp of t he same dat e.
12 Q Could you read the paragraph regarding
13 "Merliss goes even further and states." Could you read
14 that paragraph on Page 2.
15 A Begi nni ng at l i ne 4?
16 Q Line 9 on Page 2.
17 A Okay. " Mer l i ss goes even f ur t her and st at es:
18 As pr oven above and bel ow, t he f r i vol i t y and vexat i ousness
19 of Coughl i n' s mai nt enance and ext ensi on of t hi s mat t er has
20 been so beyond r eason, and so out r ageous, and t he nexus of
21 hi s behavi or t o t he f ees i ncur r ed by Mer l i ss so di r ect and
22 i ndi sput abl e, t hat not hi ng l ess t han a f ul l awar d of t hose
23 f ees shoul d even be consi der ed by t he cour t . To not
24 i mpose t he f ul l measur e of t he har mCoughl i n has caused
25 woul d r ewar d and encour age hi s vexat i ousness i n t hi s and
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1 ot her cases. Ther e needs t o be a day of r eckoni ng f or
2 Coughl i n' s ant i cs. "
3 Q In this order did Judge Flanagan accept that
4 by granting the full amount of fees requested? If you
5 read the last sentence of Page 3.
6 A Yes. " Accor di ngl y, Mer l i ss' s mot i on f or
7 at t or ney' s f ees i s gr ant ed i n t he sumof $42, 065. 50.
8 Q Do you have personal knowledge of whether or
9 not, as the attorney for Dr. Merliss, whether or not that
10 award has been paid by Mr. Coughlin?
11 A I t has not .
12 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, we have pr ovi ded you
13 wi t h cer t i f i ed copi es of each of t hese or der s. I woul d
14 move t hat Exhi bi t No. 1 be admi t t ed pur suant t o t he NRS
15 st at ut e 52 - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 1 has been admi t t ed.
17 MR. KI NG: I ' msor r y. I meant Exhi bi t 2.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any obj ect i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Your Honor , i s i t t r ul y a
20 cer t i f i ed copy has been - -
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s what he' s r epr esent ed.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: I s t hat t r ue?
23 MR. KI NG: I have cer t i f i ed copi es of al l t he
24 or der s t hat ar e goi ng t o be admi t t ed.
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve t hi s was
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1 pr ovi ded ear l i er .
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have an obj ect i on,
3 Mr . Coughl i n?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve i t was not i ced.
5 I t wasn' t i ncl uded i n t he summar y of evi dence.
6 MR. KI NG: I f you t ake a l ook at t he bot t om
7 r i ght - hand si de.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Have you seen t hi s or der ?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s admi t t ed.
11 ( Exhi bi t 2 admi t t ed i nt o evi dence. )
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I j ust di dn' t know i t was f or
13 t hi s hear i ng.
14 MR. KI NG: Your Honor , i f you l ook at t he
15 bot t omr i ght - hand si de of any document s I pr esent , you' l l
16 see a Bat es st amped number . The ent i r e f i l e was act ual l y
17 copi ed at t he St at e Bar ' s expense, and Bat es st amped and
18 pr ovi ded t o Mr . Coughl i n t o avoi d any suggest i on t hat he
19 di dn' t r ecei ve copi es of t hese document s or know t hat I
20 i nt ended t o i nt r oduce t hem.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I had ear l i er gr ant ed t hat
22 por t i on of Mr . Coughl i n' s mot i on t o have access t o t he
23 St at e Bar f i l e. And ar e you r epr esent i ng, Mr . Ki ng, t hat
24 t he St at e Bar f i l es wer e copi ed, Bat es st amped and
25 del i ver ed t o Mr . Coughl i n?
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1 MR. KI NG: Yes.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I n t he l ower r i ght - hand
3 cor ner t hi s document bear s t he Bat es st amps 2975 t o 2978.
4 And was t hi s or der i ncl uded i n t he gr oup of document s
5 del i ver ed t o Mr . Coughl i n?
6 MR. KI NG: Yes, i t was.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s admi t t ed.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Your Honor , may I r espond t o
9 t hat ?
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sur e.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: The r ul e says I ' mt o have no
12 l ess t han 30 days f r omser vi ce of t he not i ce of t he
13 hear i ng t o i nspect , up t o wi t hi n t hr ee days of t he
14 hear i ng, t hese mat er i al s. Mr . Ki ng r ef used t o l et me see
15 t hese mat er i al s f or mont hs, goi ng al l t he way back t o
16 Mar ch.
17 Al l of a sudden he' s r i gged t hi s syst emso
18 t hat I don' t get 30 days' not i ce of t he hear i ng. The
19 panel i s comi ng i nt o t hi s hear i ng. Scant amount of days
20 t o pr epar e and i ncul cat e t hemsel ves wi t h an i dea of what
21 t hi s case i s about . And f ur t her , I get a bi g box of
22 about , I want t o say about one of t he $30 boxes, and I get
23 i t on t he 8t h f or a hear i ng t hat ' s on t he 6t h. And t hat
24 somehow - -
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The hear i ng i s on t he 14t h,
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1 Mr . Coughl i n.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y. Si x days f r omt he
3 8t h. That somehow compl i es wi t h t he r ul e? And what I got
4 was sent out on November 1st . So I di dn' t get anyt hi ng,
5 any access t o i nspect t he f i l e, i nspect t he docket f r om
6 November 1st t o November 8t h. Fur t her , I onl y got t he si x
7 days, not t he 30.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, as I vi ew i t ,
9 you got mor e t han access, you got copi es. Exhi bi t 2 i s
10 admi t t ed.
11 MR. KI NG: J ust f or t he r ecor d, I woul d al so
12 l i ke t o r espond t o t he suggest i on t hat we di dn' t pr ovi de
13 Mr . Coughl i n wi t h t hese document s. Wel l i n advance of t he
14 t i me we had t hese Bat es st amped he had come t o t he St at e
15 Bar of f i ce many t i mes. I even made copi es of t he di sks of
16 t he cour t pr oceedi ngs f or hi mat hi s r equest . We f i l ed
17 document s wi t h t he supr eme cour t i n t er ms of mot i ons. He
18 was ser ved wi t h copi es of al l of t hose, and t hose exhi bi t s
19 wer e al l at t ached.
20 Fur t her mor e, t he or der s t hat he' s suggest i ng
21 shoul dn' t be admi t t ed. These or der s ar e or der s
22 speci f i cal l y f r omcour t s i nvol vi ng cases t hat he was
23 i nvol ved i n.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I got t hose, Pat . I ' mt al ki ng
25 about t he st uf f - - who i s t he - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e t al ki ng about Exhi bi t 2
2 t hat ' s admi t t ed.
3 MR. KI NG: Thank you.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pr oceed, Mr . Ki ng.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: Who' s t he gr i evant ? Di d I get
6 a l ook at t hat ?
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you' r e out of
8 or der .
9 BY MR. KI NG:
10 Q Mr. Hill, I appreciate your time today.
11 Thanks for your patience.
12 Was Mr. Coughlin, in his dealings with you as
13 an attorney, was he truthful or did he show candor in his
14 dealings with you as a lawyer?
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y, your Honor . I f I
16 can i nt er j ect . I t ' s been wel l over 15 mi nut es.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s t r ue. Do you want t o
18 wr ap i t up, Mr . Ki ng?
19 MR. KI NG: Yes.
20 BY MR. KI NG:
21 Q With that said, did he show candor to you?
22 A I n our deal i ngs wi t h Mr . Coughl i n, you coul d
23 not t r ust hi mat al l . No agr eement ever made wi t h
24 Mr . Coughl i n was honor ed by hi m.
25 For exampl e, when J udge Sf er r azza or der ed t hat
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1 Mr . Coughl i n coul d have t wo days - - he was or i gi nal l y
2 gi ven a week t o move hi s st uf f out bef or e t he evi ct i on
3 or der was ser ved. Ther eaf t er t her e was a hear i ng. The
4 j udge gave Mr . Coughl i n t wo days t o go i n and r emove hi s
5 possessi ons.
6 Mr . Coughl i n - - we went over t her e, opened t he
7 door s about 8: 00 o' cl ock. He wasn' t t her e. About 11: 00
8 o' cl ock we get an e- mai l f r omMr . Coughl i n sayi ng I have
9 appeal ed J udge Sf er r azza' s r ul i ng. That means hi s r ul i ng
10 i s st ayed. That means I can go back i nt o t he house. I ' m
11 st ayi ng i n t he house, and t her e' s not hi ng you can do about
12 i t .
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on, hear say.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
15 THE WI TNESS: Somet i me l at er t hat day we got
16 an or der f r omJ udge Sf er r azza sayi ng t hat t he r equest f or
17 a st ay had been deni ed. Mr . Coughl i n had bur ned basi cal l y
18 a whol e day doi ng not hi ng t r yi ng t o get hi s st uf f out .
19 That was t ypi cal .
20 He r epeat edl y has si gned cer t i f i cat es of
21 mai l i ng t hat he mai l ed t hus and so t o us. We have never ,
22 ever got t en anyt hi ng by mai l f r omMr . Coughl i n. I n t he
23 j ust i ce' s cour t he woul d ser ve t hi ngs t hat he di dn' t f i l e.
24 He woul d f i l e t hi ngs t hat he di dn' t ser ve. We woul d have
25 t o cal l t he cl er k on an ever y ot her day basi s t o st ay on
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1 t op of what was goi ng on.
2 Fi nal l y, when we got i n t he di st r i ct cour t , we
3 wer e abl e t o use t he e- f l ex syst em, and we wer e abl e t o
4 keep t r ack of what was goi ng on.
5 BY MR. KI NG:
6 Q Let me restate the question. The question is:
7 As an attorney, having a responsibility to be truthful and
8 to have candor with opposing counsel, was Mr. Coughlin
9 truthful, and did he use candor with you?
10 A No.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng, wr ap i t up, pl ease.
12 You' r e l i mi t ed t o 15 mi nut es.
13 BY MR. KI NG:
14 Q Specifically relating to Mr. Coughlin's candor
15 to the court, did he show candor to the courts?
16 A No.
17 Q In his demeanor --
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Lack of f oundat i on.
19 MR. KI NG: My l ast quest i on.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Pr et t y dammi ng st at ement t o
21 have no f oundat i on.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease don' t i nt er r upt . We
23 haven' t hear d t he quest i on yet t o whi ch you' ve obj ect ed.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: The l ast one, whet her I showed
25 candor t o t he cour t , and he sai d no.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You obj ect t o t hat one? I t ' s
2 over r ul ed. Go ahead.
3 BY MR. KI NG:
4 Q With regard to a person perhaps -- to the
5 extent that Mr. Coughlin may have exhibited these bad
6 behaviors, was he otherwise kind in his dealings with you
7 and Dr. Merliss? Could you explain, just briefly, to the
8 panel his actual demeanor with regard to his dealings with
9 you and your client?
10 A Hi s e- mai l s, hi s f i l i ngs wer e abusi ve, t o say
11 t he l east . Cal l i ng my - - he cal l ed my associ at e a l i chen.
12 I ' l l admi t we al l had t o r et r eat t o t he di ct i onar y on t hat
13 one. Name cal l i ng. He' s accused me of br i bi ng t he Reno
14 Pol i ce Depar t ment t o have hi mar r est ed. My st af f i s
15 absol ut el y t er r or i zed by t hi s man.
16 MR. KI NG: Thank you. I have no f ur t her
17 quest i ons.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mgoi ng t o
19 af f or d you ext r a t i me al so f or cr oss- exami nat i on. Par t of
20 i t , t he l engt h of t he di r ect , was due t o l engt hy
21 obj ect i ons, and I have t o t ake t hat i nt o consi der at i on.
22 So pl ease pr oceed, and I wi l l gi ve you addi t i onal t i me.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Thanks, si r .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I f you t hi nk you need i t .
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
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1 CROSS- EXAMI NATI ON
2 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
3 Q Mr. Hill, did the Reno police identify
4 themselves as law enforcement prior to your client kicking
5 the door down on November 13th?
6 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
8 THE WI TNESS: I bel i eve t hey di d, si r .
9 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
10 Q Is that what you testified on June 18th in
11 your sworn testimony in the criminal trespass trial?
12 A I bel i eve i t i s.
13 Q Did you testify to that today?
14 A I bel i eve I j ust di d.
15 Q Just now, but not earlier when you were
16 providing an answer to Mr. King, and you went through what
17 happened?
18 A Mr . Coughl i n, l et me make i t easy f or you. I
19 don' t r ecal l what I t est i f i ed t o on di r ect f r omMr . Ki ng.
20 I t i s my cl ear r ecol l ect i on t hat bef or e Dr . Mer l i ss ki cked
21 t he door down i n t he basement , t he pol i ce had i dent i f i ed
22 t hemsel ves l oudl y and cl ear l y.
23 Q Can you describe that in as much detail as
24 possible?
25 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r el evance, Mr . Coughl i n,
2 as t o your compet ency or candor , whi ch ar e t he t wo i ssues
3 r ai sed?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I t goes t o whet her or not t her e
5 was a cr i mi nal t r espass, whi ch I bel i eve - -
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You wer e convi ct ed of
7 cr i mi nal t r espass, t r ue?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I was.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: But a convi ct i on under
11 Cl ai bor ne i s not somet hi ng you' r e ent i t l ed t o j ust say,
12 al l r i ght , convi ct i on, and be done wi t h i t .
13 Fur t her , I ' mnot of f er i ng i t t o pr ove whet her
14 or not t her e was convi ct i on. I ' mof f er i ng i t t o i mpeach
15 Mr . Hi l l ' s cr edi bi l i t y, whi ch i s sever el y i mpeached by
16 t hi s i n t hat he l i ed, and hi s cl i ent l i ed t o get an ar r est
17 made.
18 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, i f I can r espond?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s been pr oven i n my
20 f i l i ngs.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Coughl i n.
22 Mr . Ki ng?
23 MR. KI NG: Thi s i s t ot al l y beyond t he scope of
24 t he di r ect exami nat i on. I f he want s t o cal l hi mback or
25 make i t hi s case, but i f t he convi ct i ons of t he cr i mi nal
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1 t r espass and of t he t hef t at Wal mar t , whi ch wi l l be comi ng
2 i n, t he appeal s ar e exhaust ed. Those ar e f i nal deci si ons
3 as t he supr eme cour t has - -
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Why di d we have t est i mony on
5 i t ?
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you ar e goi ng
7 t o cease i nt er r upt i ng.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
9 MR. KI NG: To t he ext ent t hat Mr . Coughl i n
10 want s t o r ef ut e t he answer s t hat Mr . Hi l l gave r egar di ng
11 hi s demeanor or conduct , what ever . To t he ext ent he want s
12 t o at t empt t o suggest t hat t he ar r est wasn' t val i d or t hat
13 he wasn' t convi ct ed, I woul d say i t shoul d be excl uded.
14 Ot her wi se, we' l l be r et r yi ng t hose cases her e t oday, and
15 t hat ' s not t he pur pose of t hi s hear i ng.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Si r , I ' mnot t r yi ng t o r et r y
17 i t . I ' mt r yi ng t o i mpeach Mr . Hi l l ' s cr edi bi l i t y.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: To t hat ext ent I ' l l al l ow
19 t hat quest i on.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Thank you, si r .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: But you bet t er have some
22 evi dence t hat - - i f you ar e goi ng t o ask quest i ons, t hey
23 bet t er be based on f act .
24 MR. COUGHLI N: They ar e. They' r e based on
25 vi deo.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a - - pr opose a
2 wi t ness t hat wi l l t est i f y t hat t he pol i ce di d not i dent i f y
3 t hemsel ves?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I have a vi deo of t he
5 ser geant - -
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a wi t ness?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: - - admi t t i ng t o t hat .
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a wi t ness?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: So you' r e t el l i ng me i t has t o
10 come i n t he f or mof a wi t ness as evi dence?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I f you ar e i nt endi ng t o
12 i mpeach hi mon some f act s, t hen I woul d r equi r e t hat you
13 make an of f er of pr oof as t o what wi t ness wi l l i mpeach
14 Mr . Hi l l .
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o show Mr . Hi l l a
16 vi deo of Mar sha Lopez, t he ser geant wi t h hi mt hat day,
17 admi t t i ng t hat Mr . Hi l l ' s account i s wr ong.
18 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o obj ect t o any vi deo or
19 di spl ay of vi deos. And t he r eason I wi l l obj ect i s,
20 number one, t hey ar e i r r el evant . Number t wo, t hey' r e al l
21 edi t s. And number t hr ee, he' s t r yi ng t o show t hat
22 somet hi ng di dn' t occur by showi ng an excer pt of a vi deo.
23 I t woul d be t ot al l y i r r el evant and i mmat er i al .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' l l addr ess t he
25 admi ssi bi l i t y of t he vi deo when t hat appear s.
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1 Ri ght now Mr . Coughl i n has asked Mr . Hi l l
2 whet her t he pol i ce i dent i f i ed hi msel f . Mr . Hi l l sai d t hat
3 t hey have. I t hi nk you' ve l ai d t he gr oundwor k. I f you
4 have i mpeachment t est i mony t hat ' s admi ssi bl e, when you
5 of f er i t - -
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' l l ask a mor e cl ar i f yi ng
7 quest i on.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease pr oceed t o anot her
9 subj ect .
10 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
11 Q So when they identified themselves, how long
12 between identifying themselves and kicking the door down?
13 A Thr ee mi nut es. Two or t hr ee mi nut es.
14 Q Which one of them identified themself?
15 A I bel i eve t her e was a l ady ser geant , and t her e
16 was a mal e of f i cer . And I bel i eve he' s t he one who banged
17 on t he door wi t h hi s ni ght st i ck and i dent i f i ed hi msel f as
18 bei ng wi t h t he pol i ce. And I bel i eve hi s wor ds wer e, come
19 on out , Zach.
20 Q Was that it, come out Zach? Does that
21 identify it as being the police?
22 A He i dent i f i ed hi msel f as bei ng wi t h t he Reno
23 Pol i ce Depar t ment .
24 Q In what words?
25 A I bel i eve t hose wer e t he wor ds he used, si r .
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1 Q What words?
2 A Thi s i s t he pol i ce, pl ease come out Zach.
3 Q Because previously all you said was, come on
4 out Zach.
5 A I bel i eve you' r e mi st aken, si r .
6 Q So you're saying that officer Chris Carter,
7 Junior, three minutes before the door was kicked in by
8 your client, banged on the door with his nightstick, and
9 said, this is the police. Come on out, Zach?
10 A Mr . Coughl i n, t hr ee mi nut es i s pr obabl y a l ong
11 est i mat e. The pr ocess was we had cl ear ed t he st ai r wel l - -
12 Q Did he say, this is the police?
13 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve.
14 THE WI TNESS: I bel i eve he di d, si r .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. Let me - - I ' m
16 goi ng t o go ahead and over r ul e. Go ahead.
17 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
18 Q Did he say, this is the police?
19 A I bel i eve he di d, si r .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' ve asked t hat t hr ee t i mes
21 now.
22 THE WI TNESS: At l east .
23 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
24 Q Did Sergeant Lopez, the female sergeant?
25 A She may have, but I don' t r ecal l .
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1 Q Did you have a video camera with you?
2 A We had Dr . Mer l i ss' s phone.
3 Q Did you take 14 videos that you propounded to
4 the Reno city attorney that day?
5 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
6 THE WI TNESS: We gave t hemwhat we had. The
7 number I don' t r ecal l .
8 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
9 Q Was there some reason -- you seem to have
10 video of every moment of that day, except for this
11 announcing themselves as law enforcement. Is that what
12 you're testifying to right now?
13 A Mr . Coughl i n - -
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t he i ssue her e
15 i s whet her or not you' r e compet ent t o be an at t or ney and
16 shoul d cont i nue i n t he pr act i ce of l aw. You' r e f ocusi ng
17 on a r at her mi nor det ai l , and I woul d l i ke you t o f ocus on
18 t he br oader i ssues.
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s not j ust compet ency, i t ' s
20 candor .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' ve i ndi cat ed you want t o
22 i mpeach hi m. The i ssue i s Mr . Hi l l has t est i f i ed t hat t he
23 pol i ce i dent i f i ed t hemsel ves. You say somet hi ng
24 di f f er ent . I ' ve asked you f or an of f er of pr oof . You' ve
25 l ai d t he f oundat i on. Let ' s pr oceed.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I t al so goes t o - -
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease pr oceed, Mr . Coughl i n.
3 You woul d do your sel f some good i f you wi l l f ocus on t he
4 i ssues, i f you wi l l .
5 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
6 Q Who served the eviction notice -- no. How did
7 the eviction notice get from the justice court to the
8 sheriff's?
9 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Beyond t he scope of
10 di r ect , and i r r el evant .
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mgoi ng t o
12 sust ai n. Let ' s addr ess t he i ssues - -
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I make an of f er of pr oof ?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - t hi s panel has been asked
15 t o l ook at . The i ssue as t o whet her or not you wer e
16 pr oper l y i n t hat r esi dence bui l di ng, t he i ssue as t o
17 whet her you wer e t r espassi ng has al l been l i t i gat ed.
18 That ' s not t he f unct i on of t hi s panel .
19 Thi s panel i s t o det er mi ne, by supr eme cour t
20 or der , what , i f any, puni shment you shoul d be subj ect t o.
21 I ' d l i ke you t o f ocus on t hat i ssue. Pl ease pr oceed.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Whet her t he puni shment under
23 Cl ai bor ne i s bi ndi ng aut hor i t y upon you ent ai l s mor e t han
24 a cur sor y, r ecei vi ng a cer t i f i ed convi ct i on i n t he mai l
25 f r oma cl er k of cour t , and not under t aki ng any di l i gent
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1 i nqui r y i n t hat r egar d.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' r e f ocusi ng on some ver y
3 mi nor det ai l s as t o who sai d what at t he t i me - - do you
4 admi t you wer e behi nd t he bar r i caded door ?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o make an of f er
6 of pr oof , your Honor .
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease do so. I ' l l gi ve you
8 t wo mi nut es.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Have you r ead anyt hi ng I f i l ed
10 i n t hi s case?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' ve r ead qui t e a bi t of i t .
12 I ' mnot sur e i t hel ps you.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: I f t hat or der was st al e, i t ' s
14 Mr . Hi l l - -
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he of f er of pr oof ?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s t hat i f I can demonst r at e
17 t hat t hat or der was st al e, i t woul d be Mr . Hi l l who was
18 t r espassi ng, not me. And t hat ent ai l s f i ndi ng out - - and
19 t he sher i f f has been ver y unhel pf ul i n t hi s r egar d. And
20 Mr . Hi l l and hi s associ at e t est i f i ed, per haps t o t hei r
21 det r i ment , t hat t he t r espass t r i al as t o when t hat l ockout
22 or der was - -
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he of f er of pr oof ?
24 You' r e t est i f yi ng. Tel l me what t he pr oof i s.
25 MR. COUGHLI N: The i mpor t ant t hi ng i s t he l aw
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1 i n Nevada says wi t hi n 24 hour s of t he sher i f f r ecei vi ng
2 t hat evi ct i on or der t hey' ve got t o do t he l ockout .
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s al l been l i t i gat ed,
4 hasn' t i t ? Di dn' t you r ai se t hese i ssues bel ow?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I n whi ch cont ext ?
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I n t he t r espass convi ct i on.
7 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay. Let ' s f ocus on t he
9 i ssues her e, whi ch, as I under st and i t , ar e t o f ocus on
10 what , i f any, puni shment you shoul d be subj ect t o wi t h
11 r espect t o - -
12 MR. COUGHLI N: What ' s al l t hi s l i vi ng i n t he
13 basement st uf f have t o do wi t h t hat ? J esus. Thi s i s
14 Ri char d Hi l l i n a nut shel l . Pr ej udi ci al nonsense.
15 Hear say. Char act er assassi nat i on. And t hen you t r y t o
16 r ebut i t , and t hi s i s not t he i ssue, i t ' s not r el evant .
17 Not hi ng he says i s r el evant .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I di dn' t say t hat . I t i s
19 r el evant . Your convi ct i on i s r el evant . You' r e t r yi ng t o
20 r el i t i gat e - -
21 MR. COUGHLI N: He' s t al ki ng about sl i pper s - -
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I shoul dn' t
23 keepi ng t al ki ng whi l e you' r e t r yi ng t o i nt er r upt .
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y, your Honor .
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead. I nt er r upt .
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have anot her quest i on
3 t o Mr . Hi l l ?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y, your Honor .
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have anot her quest i on
6 t o Mr . Hi l l ?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: You had some di r ect i on t o me,
8 and I wi sh I woul d have l i st ened t o i t .
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have anot her quest i on
10 f or Mr . Hi l l ?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, I do. I don' t know i f you
12 ar e goi ng t o f i nd i t r el evant , your Honor , and I don' t
13 want t o upset you. You' r e t el l i ng me t o f ocus on r el evant
14 i ssues her e wi t h r espect t o what he' s t est i f i ed t o on
15 di r ect , I i magi ne. He' s made some gener al - - no, he
16 doesn' t have candor . I guess I can - - i t seems l i ke ever y
17 t i me I t r y t o r ebut t hat , wel l , t her e' s a convi ct i on.
18 That ' s been pr oven. I ' mnot of f er i ng i t t o undo t he
19 convi ct i on. I have mot i on f or a new t r i al and al l t hat .
20 I ' mof f er i ng i t t o go t o t he ext ent he' s sayi ng t her e i s
21 not candor .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have anot her quest i on
23 f or Mr . Hi l l ?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
25 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
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1 Q Who got the order to the sheriff, and when and
2 how?
3 A I have no i dea. I can t el l you t hat i t i s my
4 under st andi ng - -
5 MR. KI NG: Coul d you speak up, pl ease.
6 THE WI TNESS: I t i s my gener al under st andi ng
7 f r omhavi ng done a f ew evi ct i ons t hat t hat i s handl ed by
8 t he cour t st af f .
9 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
10 Q Did Mr. Baker testify that he had met with the
11 sheriff on the 28th?
12 A I don' t know t he dat e. I pr esume you' r e
13 r ef er r i ng t o t he evi ct i on, t he dat e on whi ch t he
14 evi ct i on - - t he evi ct i on or der was unusual i n t hat i t gave
15 you unt i l 5: 00 o' cl ock on a par t i cul ar day t o vacat e.
16 The sher i f f - - we t r i ed t o get hi mt o show up
17 at 5: 01, and t hey wer en' t goi ng t o do t hat . And i t was
18 t he next day when Mr . Baker and my wi f e met wi t h t he
19 sher i f f ' s per sonnel at t he pr oper t y, changed t he l ocks,
20 and post ed t he l ockout or der i n st andar d oper at i ng
21 pr ocedur e f or ever y evi ct i on I ' ve ever done i n Washoe
22 Count y, Nevada.
23 Q Did I ever accuse you of taking bribes or the
24 police of taking bribes from you?
25 A You have made t hat st at ement on numer ous
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1 occasi ons i n paper s t hat you have f i l ed wi t h var i ous
2 cour t s. As I si t her e r i ght now, I don' t know t hat you - -
3 Q Would it be more accurate --
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you asked a
5 quest i on. Let t he wi t ness f i ni sh t he answer .
6 THE WI TNESS: You' ve made t he st at ement
7 numer ous t i mes i n f i l i ngs i n di st r i ct cour t and i n t he
8 supr eme cour t . I do not , as I si t her e t oday, r ecal l a
9 speci f i c i nci dent when you ver bal l y made t hat st at ement t o
10 me, al t hough i t i s ent i r el y possi bl e.
11 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
12 Q Is it more accurate to say that in my filings
13 I quoted Officer Carter?
14 A Ther e have been - -
15 Q As to what he said exactly?
16 A Ther e have been i nst ances when you have
17 couched t hat accusat i on i n t er ms of pur por t i ng t o quot e, I
18 t hi nk i t was Car t er . However , t her e have been i nst ances
19 wher e you have di r ect l y, wi t hout couchi ng i t as quot i ng
20 Car t er , made t hat accusat i on agai nst me, si r .
21 Q Where? Specifically when?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you aski ng hi mt o t el l
23 you when you made some al l egat i ons?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: When I di d anyt hi ng ot her t han
25 at t r i but e a quot e t o an of f i cer .
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o over r ul e t hat .
2 Do you have an of f er of pr oof ? Di d you make t hat
3 asser t i on t hat Mr . Hi l l br i bed t he pol i ce of f i cer ? Have
4 you made t hat asser t i on?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve I ' ve ever done
6 anyt hi ng - -
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Have you made t hat asser t i on,
8 si r ?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve I have.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You j ust asked hi m. And your
11 quest i on, you i mpl i ed - -
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Because he' s sayi ng t hat . And
13 I t hi nk t her e i s a di f f er ence bet ween r epeat i ng a quot e
14 f r oman of f i cer and maki ng an accusat i on.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You may f i nd t he di st i nct i on.
16 I don' t know t hat ot her s woul d. Do you have an of f er of
17 pr oof on t hat ?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y, your Honor , I don' t
19 know t hat I know what you mean by t hat .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have evi dence t o
21 est abl i sh an asser t i on t hat Mr . Hi l l br i bed a pol i ce
22 of f i cer ?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' ve never done anyt hi ng mor e
24 t han say t hat of f i cer sai d t hat , because I f eel l i ke I
25 need mor e of a basi s.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have pr oof ?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot maki ng t hat asser t i on.
3 I ' mnot al l egi ng t hat . I ' mj ust sayi ng t hat of f i cer sai d
4 t hat . That ' s al l I ' mdoi ng.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I keep t r yi ng t o t al k whi l e
6 you' r e i nt er r upt i ng, and I apol ogi ze.
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any evi dence t hat
9 what you ci t e as t hi s of f i cer ' s st at ement i s t r ue?
10 MR. COUGHLI N: To cl ar i f y. You' r e not aski ng
11 me i f he t r ul y sai d t hat , but i f what he sai d was t r ue?
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Cor r ect .
13 MR. COUGHLI N: No. Ot her t han t he f act t hat
14 t her e' s - -
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have anot her quest i on?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: - - r emar kabl e r appor t wi t h t he
17 pol i ce, no.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So you have made an
19 al l egat i on.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: No. Al l I ' ve done i s r epeat
21 what t hat of f i cer sai d, whi ch was, I bel i eve, t o be
22 somewhat of a st at ement agai nst i nt er est .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' ve r epeat ed t hat wi t hout
24 any i ndependent pr oof t hat what t he of f i cer sai d was t r ue.
25 Yes?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know t hat t hat ' s t r ue.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he evi dence - - excuse
3 me.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' ve been ar r est ed f i ve t i mes.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. What i s t he
6 evi dence t hat you have t hat t hi s al l egat i on you quot e f r om
7 t hi s of f i cer i s t r ue?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: One, t hat he sai d i t . Okay. I
9 bel i eve I ' ment i t l ed t o t ake t hat as somewhat of pr oof .
10 Two i s t hat I keep get t i ng ar r est ed ever y t i me Ri char d
11 Hi l l get s upset . I get ar r est ed f or j aywal ki ng shor t l y
12 af t er I not i ced t hat hi s cont r act or who bi l l ed me a
13 t housand dol l ar s f or boar di ng up t he por ch used my own
14 pl ywood t o do i t .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, when a l awyer
16 put s an al l egat i on i n a pl eadi ng - -
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I di dn' t make any al l egat i on.
18 He' s t he one who sai d he f ound a cr ack pi pe and a bag of
19 weed and al l t hese ot her al l egat i ons. I mer el y
20 r epeat ed - - I ' msor r y, your Honor . I ' mt al ki ng over you.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any f ur t her
22 quest i ons f or Mr . Hi l l ?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . I gat her you' d l i ke
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1 me t o wr ap t hi s up.
2 Your Honor , may I ask some di r ect i on i n t er ms
3 of what subj ect s you woul d l i ke me t o f ocus on wi t h
4 Mr . Hi l l ?
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I can' t di r ect your case,
6 si r . I ' ve i ndi cat ed t o you what I bel i eve t he f ocus of
7 t hi s hear i ng shoul d be.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: That my f i t ness - - i f I can ask
9 f or cl ar i f i cat i on.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I bel i eve t he i ssue t hat t hi s
11 panel has t o det er mi ne i s what t he degr ee, i f any, of
12 puni shment shoul d be f or t he conduct t hat you have al l eged
13 t o have been i nvol ved wi t h, i n t er ms of candor t o t he
14 cour t , candor t o counsel , candor t o wi t nesses, compet ency
15 t o pr act i ce l aw.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I ncl udi ng - -
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I bel i eve t hose ar e t he
18 i ssues t hat t hi s panel shoul d f ocus on. But I do not
19 i nt end t o i n any way l i mi t what you t hi nk shoul d be
20 i mpor t ant .
21 So i f you have f ur t her quest i ons of Mr . Hi l l ,
22 pl ease ask t hem. I t ' s my i nt ent i on t o compl et e t hi s
23 hear i ng. The panel met l ast week. I t i s t he panel ' s
24 i nt ent i on t o compl et e t hi s hear i ng t oday.
25 So do you have any f ur t her quest i ons of
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1 Mr . Hi l l ?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
3 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
4 Q Mr. Hill, is it somewhat incongruus for you to
5 assert to this panel that I completely lack competency,
6 and yet you ran up, counting the trial court $20,000 you
7 asked for, and the $42,000 you were ultimately awarded in
8 that appellate court?
9 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve and
10 i r r el evant .
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t goes t o hi s
13 cr edi bi l i t y.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y?
15 MR. COUGHLI N: Your Honor , I t hi nk i t goes t o
16 hi s cr edi bi l i t y t o t he ext ent t hat he' s sayi ng, wel l ,
17 Mr . Coughl i n i s so basel ess and vexat i ous, yet I was abl e
18 t o bi l l 60 gr and f or i t .
19 To me i t ' s l i ke, wel l , at some poi nt i f
20 somebody' s ar gument s ar e so wor t hl ess and so unsuppor t ed,
21 shoul dn' t you be abl e t o br i ng i t home f or l ess t han 60
22 gr and f or a summar y evi ct i on?
23 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, i f I coul d r espond by
24 poi nt i ng out t he f act t hat t he or der f r omJ udge Fl anagan,
25 whi ch has been admi t t ed, suggest s t hat t hat was - - t hat
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1 t hose f ees wer e gener at ed because of Mr . Coughl i n' s
2 vexat i ous conduct . And t hat t he f ees wer e r easonabl e and
3 wer e awar ded agai nst Mr . Coughl i n, not one cent of whi ch
4 has been pai d.
5 So I t hi nk any suggest i on t o t he cont r ar y i s
6 i r r el evant , because J udge Fl anagan' s or der i s t o be
7 accept ed by t he panel .
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Your Honor , i f I can qui ckl y
9 count er t hat . I don' t know t hat ' s act ual l y pl ed i n your
10 compl ai nt , Mr . Ki ng, or i ncl uded amongst one of t he t hr ee
11 gr i evances. The ext ent t o whi ch - - amI her e t oday
12 because t hi s l i ke J udge Gar dner ' s sanct i ons comi ng up t wo
13 year s l at er ? AmI her e t oday on J udge Fl anagan' s
14 sanct i on? I s he a gr i evant and accor ded a case number
15 t oo?
16 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, I was r espondi ng t o
17 hi s quest i on.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I bel i eve you' r e her e t oday
19 t o measur e al l of your conduct as a pr act i ci ng l awyer . So
20 I ' d l i ke t o move on. I f you have f ur t her quest i ons of
21 Mr . Hi l l , pl ease ask t hem. I ' ve now af f or ded you i n
22 excess of 20 mi nut es. I ' l l gi ve you anot her f i ve.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: So we' r e not her e t oday based
24 on what ' s been not i ced?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e not her e t oday t o
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1 r el i t i gat e or der s t hat have been f i l ed t hat you have
2 appeal ed, and t hat you have l ost .
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot aski ng - - I ' maski ng
4 what i s i t l i mi t ed t o? Because i t sounds l i ke f r omwhat
5 you j ust sai d i t ' s not l i mi t ed.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t i nt end t o i mpose any
7 l i mi t s on you i n t er ms of what you at t empt t o pr of f er as
8 evi dence. I wi l l r ul e on what you pr of f er as evi dence.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msayi ng what he' s l i mi t ed
10 t o, your Honor .
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The i ssue her e, si r , as I
12 under st and t he supr eme cour t ' s or der wi t h r espect t o your
13 convi ct i on of t hef t , and t he i ssues her e wi t h r espect t o
14 t he ot her gr i evances t hat have been f i l ed agai nst you ar e
15 t o t he ext ent as t o what , i f any, shoul d be t he puni shment
16 t hat you shoul d sust ai n as a r esul t of your conduct .
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Yet t hi s i s ent er ed i nt o
18 evi dence.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s i s what ?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Thi s or der has been ent er ed
21 i nt o evi dence.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 2 has.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: But i t ' s not pl ed i n any
24 compl ai nt . J udge Fl anagan' s not a gr i evant . I wasn' t
25 not i ced t hat t hat was t he pur pose of t hi s hear i ng t o some
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1 ext ent t oday.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You wer e not i ced t hat t he
3 i ssue of your convi ct i on of t r espass was an i ssue, t hat
4 your handl i ng of t hat case was an i ssue, and i t ' s r el evant
5 as t o t hat .
6 Now, i f you have some mor e quest i ons of
7 Mr . Hi l l , pl ease ask t hem, and l et ' s move on.
8 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
9 Q Mr. Hill, what did you think when I was
10 arrested for jaywalking? How did that make you feel?
11 A Mr . Coughl i n, I was not pr esent when you wer e
12 ar r est ed. I f you' l l r ecal l , t he pol i ce suggest ed t hat I
13 go get a TPO f r omt he j ust i ce cour t . I di d do t hat . And
14 I f i l l ed out t he paper wor k at t he j ust i ce' s cour t and came
15 back t o t he Ri ver Rock home. And by t hat poi nt i n t i me
16 you had been t aken i nt o cust ody. I was not - -
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Nonr esponsi ve.
18 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
19 Q I asked you about your feelings, Rich. Your
20 feelings, not a narrative.
21 A I f el t sor r y f or you, Mr . Coughl i n. You ar e
22 your own wor st enemy.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Next quest i on.
24 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
25 Q Did you or anyone that day issue me a warning
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1 to leave the property on November 13th when I was arrested
2 for custodial arrest for criminal trespassing?
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I coul dn' t hear t hat . Coul d
4 you r epeat i t ?
5 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
6 Q Did you, Mr. Hill, or anyone else there that
7 day, either the sergeant or the officer or your client,
8 the landlord, did anyone that day issue me a warning,
9 trespass warning, to leave the premises?
10 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance. He was
11 convi ct ed.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r el evance, si r ?
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , i t goes t o t he l egi t i macy
14 of t he convi ct i on. Pl us, i t goes t o - -
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' ve al r eady l i t i gat ed
16 t hat . Sust ai ned. Next quest i on.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot of f er i ng pr oof , j ust
18 t he l egi t i macy of t he convi ct i on.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s what you j ust sai d,
20 and I sust ai ned t he obj ect i on.
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I t was a mul t i f acet ed basi s f or
22 t hat .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he r est of i t ?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: That i t goes t o i mpeach
25 Mr . Hi l l ' s cr edi bi l i t y.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: How so?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I f he' s st andi ng behi nd t hi s
3 asser t i on t hat I demonst r at ed a l ack of candor or f ai r ness
4 t o opposi ng counsel , even wher e he knows t hat no one
5 i ssued a war ni ng t o l eave, t hen I bel i eve i t woul d i mpeach
6 hi s cr edi bi l i t y, and i t woul d bear on t he ext ent t o whi ch
7 I have been unf ai r l y accused of a mul t i t ude of si ns whi ch
8 have been ei t her pl ed or not pl ed i n Mr . Ki ng' s compl ai nt
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng f ur t her ?
10 MR. COUGHLI N: No, si r .
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned. Next quest i on.
12 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
13 Q Mr. Hill, what rules of procedure apply in a
14 summary eviction?
15 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , he got t o t est i f y as t o
18 how he' s wor ked so much on t hi s case, and he had t o bi l l
19 so much. And I woul d j ust l i ke t o know i f he knows what
20 r ul es of pr ocedur e go t o.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned. Next quest i on.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: So i t was r el evant when he was
23 t al ki ng about al l t hat , but when I want t o ask hi mabout
24 t hat , i t ' s not r el evant .
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' r e aski ng a speci f i c
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1 quest i on about what r ul e of pr ocedur e. That ' s i r r el evant
2 i n t hi s hear i ng. Pr oceed.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: But - -
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pr oceed, Mr . Coughl i n.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t hi nk you' r e goi ng t o
6 l et me wi t h hi m.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I have no i dea. I ' mwai t i ng.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t hi nk you' r e goi ng t o
9 l et me pr oceed wi t h a boar d member .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o al l ow you t o
11 pr oceed.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t hi nk you ar e goi ng t o
13 l et me ask hi many good quest i ons.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any f ur t her
15 quest i ons, si r ?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I do, but none t hat you' r e
17 goi ng t o l et me ask hi m.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We don' t know t hat , do we?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: You' ve pr et t y much made t hat
20 cl ear .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any f ur t her
22 quest i ons, si r ?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I do, but you' r e not goi ng t o
24 l et me ask hi m.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease ask t hem. I ' l l gi ve
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1 you anot her f i ve mi nut es f or a t ot al of a hal f - hour . I n
2 f i ve mi nut es Mr . Ki ng - -
3 MR. COUGHLI N: - - t el l i ng me no f or f i ve mor e
4 mi nut es.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. I have t hi s
6 t er r i bl e habi t of cont i nui ng t o t al k whi l e you' r e t r yi ng
7 t o i nt er r upt .
8 I ' l l gi ve you anot her f i ve mi nut es, at whi ch
9 poi nt Mr . Hi l l wi l l have been her e an hour . So do you
10 have any f ur t her quest i ons?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: I do.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ask t hem.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t f eel t hat you wi l l f i nd
14 any of t hemr el evant .
15 MR. KI NG: I woul d ask t he chai r man t o
16 acknowl edge t hat he' s not aski ng any f ur t her quest i ons,
17 and ask t he panel i f t hey have any f ur t her quest i ons, and
18 excuse t he wi t ness, because I have sever al mor e wi t nesses,
19 i ncl udi ng a j udge, st andi ng by.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Does t he panel have any
21 quest i ons?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mgoi ng t o
23 of f er you one mor e oppor t uni t y t o ask a r el evant quest i on,
24 i f you bel i eve you have one.
25 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
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1 Q Is there anything I've done that's competent,
2 Rich?
3 A That ' s a t ough quest i on t o answer ,
4 Mr . Coughl i n. Consi der i ng t hat your goal was t o cause
5 Dr . Mer l i ss as much har mas possi bl e, i n t hat r egar d you
6 wer e successf ul . Di d you per f or mas a r easonabl e at t or ney
7 shoul d, I j ust don' t t hi nk so.
8 Q Do you think it's possible that I just felt
9 that I had a basis for defending against a summary
10 eviction as a commercial tenant where you pled no cause,
11 and the law has an express dictate against summarily
12 evicting commercial tenants unless you pled nonpayment of
13 rent? Do you think maybe I just thought that was a
14 legitimate position I took?
15 A No, si r . You made t hat up af t er t he f act .
16 Q Have you noticed that in the tenth affidavit I
17 pled that it was my law office?
18 A You di d not have a busi ness l i cense, si r . You
19 wer e not l awf ul l y oper at i ng a busi ness t her e.
20 Q Well, regardless of whether or not that's
21 true, that's different than what you just said. You said
22 this is a criminal trespass trial. You said, "You made
23 that up after the fact." But then I pointed out to you
24 that, no, Rich it's pled right there. It's pled right
25 there. So is that truthful?
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1 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve.
2 THE WI TNESS: I s t her e a quest i on i n t her e?
3 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
4 Q Yeah. You throw out, "You made it up after
5 the fact." And then I say, no, Rich, it's October 19th,
6 it's pled there, it's pled in the tenth affidavit, it's
7 dealt with extensively at trial. A lot of questions and
8 testimony at the trial which was later remixed into a --
9 so is that demonstrating candor on your part to assert
10 that I made it up after the fact when there's all this
11 documentation that says, no, Rich, it's right there, it's
12 commercial tenancy?
13 A Mr . Coughl i n, as you know, I di d not at t end
14 t hat t r i al , nor have I r ead t he t r anscr i pt . I wi l l not e
15 t hough t hat J udge Sf er r azza r ul ed t hat you di d not pr ove
16 anyt hi ng t hat you at t empt ed t o t r y t o pr ove.
17 Q So you just said --
18 A That speaks ver y l oudl y t o your compet ence and
19 what you put i n t he r ecor d i n t hat cour t . And i t was
20 af f i r med on appeal .
21 Q Can you tell me, when you say you didn't plead
22 that, you didn't bring it up. But then a minute later you
23 say, I didn't go to the trial, and I didn't read this and
24 that. How can you say you didn't bring that up, you made
25 it up after the fact, and reconcile that with the
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1 statement that you didn't go to the trial?
2 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned. I ' l l al l ow you
4 one mor e quest i on.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s al l .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s now, accor di ng t o t he
7 cl ock on t he wal l her e, i t ' s now 10: 45.
8 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
9 Q What do you mean when you say, "You made that
10 up after the fact"?
11 A Mr . Baker , i n paper s t hat he f i l ed, poi nt ed
12 out t o t he cour t t hat you had not r ai sed t hat i ssue i n t he
13 j ust i ce' s cour t , and you di d not chal l enge t hat st at ement
14 by Mr . Baker i n t he paper s t hat he f i l ed wi t h t he cour t i n
15 your r espondi ng paper s.
16 Q What statement by Mr. Baker?
17 A That you had not t i mel y r ai sed t he commer ci al
18 t enant busi ness i n t he j ust i ce' s cour t .
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay. Mr . Hi l l , you' ve been
20 her e an hour . I bel i eve we have l i mi t ed t he t est i mony of
21 wi t nesses t o hal f an hour . I t hi nk we have af f or ded
22 Mr . Coughl i n t he oppor t uni t y t o ask as many quest i ons he
23 bel i eves ar e r el evant as possi bl e.
24 I f t he panel has not hi ng f ur t her , I ' l l excuse
25 Mr . Hi l l .
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1 THE WI TNESS: AmI r el eased f r omt he subpoena?
2 MR. KI NG: Yes. Thank you, Mr . Hi l l , f or your
3 t i me t oday.
4 MS. PEARL: Mr . Chai r man?
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse us f or a second.
6 MS. PEARL: Can we have a t i ny br eak?
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: As soon as we r el ease
8 Mr . Hi l l , we' l l t ake a br eak.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: And I can' t cal l hi mon di r ect ?
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: I can' t cal l hi m- - do I have
12 di r ect ? Do I have a case i n chi ef ?
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sur e.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: So he' s not r el eased f r omt he
15 subpoena.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you not want hi mr el eased?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: No, I woul d l i ke t o have hi m
18 subj ect t o subpoena duces t ecum.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you i nt end t o cal l hi mon
20 di r ect i n your case i n chi ef ?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I mi ght .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Hi l l , woul d you mi nd
23 bei ng on t el ephone st andby?
24 And, Mr . Coughl i n, i f you i nt end t o cal l hi m,
25 I want a hal f - hour not i ce.
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1 THE WI TNESS: That wi l l be t oday?
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes. Ar e you avai l abl e t hi s
3 af t er noon?
4 THE WI TNESS: I wi l l cancel what ever I have t o
5 make mysel f avai l abl e f or t he panel .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you.
7 THE WI TNESS: Do you want me t o come back out
8 her e or do you want me t o be avai l abl e t el ephoni cal l y?
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I j ust want you t o be
10 avai l abl e by a phone cal l , because I ' mnot sur e
11 Mr . Coughl i n has commi t t ed t hat he, i n f act , wi l l cal l you
12 t hi s af t er noon. But he' s asked us not t o r el ease you f r om
13 t he subpoena.
14 I ' maski ng Mr . Coughl i n t o gi ve us at l east a
15 hal f - hour not i ce i f you i nt end t o cal l Mr . Hi l l i n your
16 case.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . Chai r man, si r , may I
18 ask, wi t h r espect t o t he subpoena duces t ecum, can I ask
19 Mr . Hi l l t o pr esent document at i on as t o when hi s of f i ce
20 met wi t h t he sher i f f ?
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you subpoena Mr . Hi l l ?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s di f f i cul t t o answer
23 gi ven - -
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t shoul dn' t be. I t ' s ei t her
25 a yes or no.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I have t o know what r ul es
2 appl y.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d have t o know what r ul es
5 appl y i n t hi s set t i ng.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The i ssue i s, di d you
7 subpoena Mr . Hi l l t o t est i f y her e t oday i n your case?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Accor di ng t o t he l aw of what ?
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The St at e of Nevada.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: NRCP?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I s appl i cabl e her e?
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Real l y?
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you subpoena Mr . Hi l l ?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Because i t doesn' t seeml i ke i t
17 i s appl i cabl e her e.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t hat ' s a ver y
19 si mpl e quest i on. Di d you cause a subpoena t o be i ssued
20 f or Mr . Hi l l ' s at t endance i n your case i n chi ef ?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Bar counsel t ol d me I don' t
22 have t o pay subpoena f ees.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, wi l l you answer
24 my quest i on?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mt r yi ng t o, si r .
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I t ' s ei t her a yes or a
2 no.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Depends whet her or not wi t ness
4 f ees ar e r equi r ed.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No, i t doesn' t . That ' s
6 anot her i ssue. The i ssue i s: Di d you cause a subpoena t o
7 be i ssued t o Mr . Hi l l and ser ve hi mwi t h a subpoena; di d
8 you do t hat ?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I have t o be car ef ul about what
10 I say, si r . And I don' t say t hi s out of di sr espect .
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hi nk you shoul d be
12 car ef ul , because i t r equi r es a t r ut hf ul answer . The
13 answer i s ei t her yes, I di d subpoena hi m, or no, I di dn' t .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e not goi ng t o f or ce me
15 i nt o sayi ng what ' s di smi ssed when t hey have made
16 r epr esent at i ons t hat I ' mal l owed t o i ssue subpoenas, or
17 t hat I don' t have t o pay wi t ness f ees, and you want t o j am
18 me i nt o sayi ng yes, yes, I di d t hi s under t he r ul es of
19 t hi s, and not t aki ng i nt o accor d what t hey have been
20 sayi ng t o me.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, di d you cause a
22 subpoena t o be i ssued - -
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d have t o know what t hey
24 ar e t el l i ng me i s - -
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o t ake t hat as a
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1 no.
2 Mr . Hi l l , you' r e excused.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know t hat I woul d say
4 t hat .
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I j ust di d.
6 MR. KI NG: Mr . Hi l l , woul d you do me a f avor ?
7 Woul d you conf i dent i al l y shar e your t el ephone number wi t h
8 Laur a Pet er s, t he cl er k, i n case t he chai r does deci de t o
9 cal l you?
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' l l be i n r ecess unt i l
11 11: 00 o' cl ock. And now, because i t ' s a l ot easi er , and we
12 can al l l ook at i t , I t hi nk now we' l l go wi t h t he cl ock on
13 t he St at e Bar wal l her e.
14 ( Recess t aken. )
15 ( Exhi bi t 3 mar ked. )
16 PAUL ELCANO
17 havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, t est i f i ed as f ol l ows:
18 MR. KI NG: Thank you Mr . Chai r man. My next
19 wi t ness i s Mr . Paul El cano, and Mr . El cano' s al r eady been
20 swor n.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Bef or e we do t hat , l et ' s go
22 on t he r ecor d, because I was i nf or med at t he r ecess t hat
23 t he conver sat i on we had r egar di ng r ecor di ng t hi s
24 pr oceedi ng di d not appear on t he r ecor d.
25 Mr . Coughl i n asked i f i t was appr opr i at e f or
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1 hi mt o r ecor d t hi s pr oceedi ng. I i ndi cat ed t o hi mi t was
2 not , t hat we had an of f i ci al cour t r epor t er , and t hat wi l l
3 be t he of f i ci al r ecor d of t hi s pr oceedi ng
4 Mr . Coughl i n, do you have a t ape r ecor der on?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: No, si r .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let t he r ecor d r ef l ect t hat
7 t he panel , Mr . Coughl i n, Mr . Ki ng, and t he wi t ness,
8 Mr . El cano, who, dur i ng t he cour se of t he r ecess, was
9 pr evi ousl y swor n.
10 Mr . Ki ng.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: May I j ust ask? I s t her e a
12 pl ug I mi ght be abl e t o use?
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I s t her e somewher e a pl ug I
15 woul d be per mi t t ed t o use?
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I have no i dea. I s t her e a
17 pl ug f or Mr . Coughl i n' s comput er ?
18 ( Di scussi on of f t he r ecor d. )
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The t i me, accor di ng t o t he
20 cl ock on t he St at e Bar wal l i s now 11: 05. Mr . Ki ng,
21 pur suant t o t he panel ' s pr evi ous or der , you have 15
22 mi nut es t o pr esent Mr . El cano.
23 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
24 BY MR. KI NG:
25 Q Mr. Elcano, could you state your name and
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1 spell it for the record, please.
2 A Paul El cano. E- L- C- A- N- O.
3 Q And how are you employed?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y. I f I can j ust
5 qui ckl y i nt er j ect . I don' t mean t o t ake up t i me. The
6 second of t hr ee wi t nesses i s one who was onl y not i ced
7 about f our , f i ve days ago, so I wi l l obj ect t o t hat . I ' m
8 st andi ng on cer emony wi t h SCR 1052( c) .
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed. Pr oceed.
10 BY MR. KI NG:
11 Q Could you tell the panel how you are employed?
12 A I ' mcur r ent l y t he execut i ve di r ect or of Washoe
13 Legal Ser vi ces, a 501( c) 3, t hat pr ovi des l egal ser vi ces t o
14 i ndi gent s.
15 Q Thank you for that service. Did you have
16 contact with Mr. Coughlin as an employee of Washoe Legal
17 Services?
18 A Yes. We empl oyed Mr . Coughl i n f r omAugust - -
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I f I can j ust - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me.
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I s t her e any conf l i ct t hat I
22 shoul d be awar e of ?
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any what ?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Conf l i ct .
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Among t he panel member s?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Not t hat I know of .
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Wi t h Mr . El cano? A
4 l ong- st andi ng per sonal r el at i onshi p?
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you l ooki ng t o me? I ' ve
6 known Mr . El cano si nce we wer e young chi l dr en. I pr obabl y
7 haven' t seen you i n t wo or t hr ee year s. And t hen br i ef l y
8 soci al l y, I don' t even r emember wher e. So i f t hat ' s a
9 conf l i ct you' r e r ef er r i ng t o, Mr . Coughl i n - -
10 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d you go t o St anf or d
11 t oget her ?
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. Not t hat I know.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: You bot h went t o St anf or d?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I went t o St anf or d. I don' t
15 know wher e Mr . El cano went .
16 MR. COUGHLI N: St anf or d?
17 THE WI TNESS: Yes, si r .
18 MR. KI NG: I t ' s par t of Mr . Coughl i n - -
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you r ai si ng an obj ect i on
20 t hat I shoul d r ecuse mysel f ? I f so ar t i cul at e your poi nt .
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Si r , i t ' s my under st andi ng t hat
22 I mi ght have some dut y t o ask i f t her e' s a conf l i ct or
23 some basi s.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mt aki ng i t as an
25 i mpl i cat i on t hat you ar e asser t i ng t hat I have a conf l i ct .
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1 Make your case.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know t hat I ' mdoi ng
3 t hat , si r .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Make your case.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t have enough i nf or mat i on
6 t o do t hat . That ' s why I ' maski ng. I bel i eve t he
7 j udi ci al canons at l east suggest t hat maybe upon some
8 pr ompt i ng or wi t hout pr ompt i ng of t en ki nd of l i ke wi t h t he
9 Gar dner s when I had t o pr ompt , you' r e J udge Gar dner ' s
10 br ot her ?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I coul dn' t under st and t hat .
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , t he cr i mi nal t r espass
13 case, i t was - -
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mf ocusi ng - -
15 MR. COUGHLI N: - - J udge Gar dner ' s br ot her who
16 was t he j udge on t hat .
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you' r e r ai si ng
18 an i ssue t hat I per haps shoul d r ecuse mysel f .
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know t hat , si r . I
20 don' t know enough about t he si t uat i on. I di dn' t know you
21 wer e f r i ends as smal l chi l dr en. I di dn' t know you guys
22 went back t hat f ar .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you asser t i ng t hat t he
24 gr ounds t hat someone knew someone at a young age i s
25 gr ounds enough t o r equi r e r ecusal ?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you asser t i ng t hat ?
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I doubt t hat ' s enough.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay. Ar e you asser t i ng t hat
5 t he f act t hat t wo peopl e went t o col l ege at t he same pl ace
6 and di dn' t even know t hey wer e t her e t oget her i s gr ounds
7 f or a mandat or y r ecusal ?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I j ust asked f or i nf or mat i on.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you maki ng t hat
10 asser t i on?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: I j ust asked f or i nf or mat i on.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I gave you t he i nf or mat i on.
13 I don' t know when Mr . El cano went t her e. I at t ended
14 St anf or d f r om1966 t o 1967.
15 Mr . El cano, when wer e you t her e, i f you wer e?
16 THE WI TNESS: ' 66 t o ' 69.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: So t he same year ?
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: ' 66.
20 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, I hope t hi s i sn' t
21 count i ng agai nst my t i me.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: You wer e unawar e of t hi s? You
23 wer e chi l dhood f r i ends, and you' r e unawar e of t hi s?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes. That ' s t r ue. That ' s
25 how l i mi t ed our r el at i onshi p i s.
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1 Now, ar e you asser t i ng, si r , t hat t he f act
2 t hat Mr . El cano and I at t ended t he same school at t he same
3 t i me and di dn' t know t hat t o t hi s day, ar e you asser t i ng
4 t hat i s gr ounds f or mandat or y r ecusal ? Yes or no?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: So you di dn' t know t hat t o t hi s
6 day?
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I di d not know t hat , si r .
8 Ar e you asser t i ng t hat as gr ounds; yes or no?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t hi nk I have enough
10 i nf or mat i on.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pr oceed.
12 MR. VI LLAS: J ust f or t he r ecor d, Mr . Ki ng
13 shoul d have 15 mi nut es f r omI guess 10 mi nut es af t er .
14 That shoul dn' t eat i nt o hi s t i me f or t he exami nat i on.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I agr ee. I t ' s now 11: 10.
16 BY MR. KI NG:
17 Q I believe I asked you if the Washoe Legal
18 Services had employed Mr. Coughlin?
19 A Accor di ng t o our r ecor ds, he was empl oyed
20 about August 29t h, 2007, t o May 11, 2009.
21 Q And in your capacity working for Washoe County
22 Legal Services, did you come to work with Mr. Coughlin?
23 A Yes.
24 Q In your work with Mr. Coughlin, did you form
25 an opinion as to his competency to practice law in Nevada
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1 as a lawyer?
2 A Yes.
3 Q I'll first ask what that opinion is, then work
4 backward as to why you feel that way. What is your
5 opinion currently of Mr. Coughlin's ability to practice
6 law?
7 A Cur r ent l y I don' t bel i eve he' s compet ent t o
8 pr act i ce l aw based on t he i nf or mat i on I have.
9 Q Just by way of background, did you at one
10 point?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Rel evancy.
12 BY MR. KI NG:
13 Q At some point in time --
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Cal l s f or an exper t - -
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He hasn' t f i ni shed t he
16 quest i on yet , Mr . Coughl i n.
17 BY MR. KI NG:
18 Q At some point in time did you consider
19 Mr. Coughlin as a friend or did you like Mr. Coughlin?
20 A Yes. Act ual l y, i n a way I ' ve al ways l i ked
21 Mr . Coughl i n. I don' t have a di sl i ke f or hi m.
22 Q Backing up to what activities did you
23 personally see or witness that formed the basis of your
24 opinion that he is not competent to practice?
25 A The f i r st one was t he or der ent er ed i n t he
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1 J oshi case by J udge Gar dner wher ei n he was sanct i oned f or
2 var i ous t hi ngs whi ch ar e l i st ed i n t he or der . As a r esul t
3 of t hat , I r evi ewed t he t ape of t he hear i ng.
4 Q So you actually listened to the hearing
5 itself?
6 A Yes. I went t hr ough t he hear i ng t r anscr i pt .
7 MR. KENT: Can I ask a quest i on on t hat ?
8 MR. KI NG: Handi ng you what has been mar ked as
9 Exhi bi t 3 f or i dent i f i cat i on pur poses.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Ki ng?
11 MR. KENT: I j ust want t o ask a cl ar i f yi ng
12 quest i on. I f t hat was dur i ng t he t i me t hat he was
13 empl oyed?
14 THE WI TNESS: Yes, he was st i l l empl oyed f or
15 us at t hat t i me.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What wer e t hose dat es of
17 empl oyment agai n?
18 THE WI TNESS: August 29t h, 2007, t o May 11t h,
19 2009.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I j ust ask, amI i n danger
21 of communi cat i on wi t h r epr esent ed par t i es?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you what , si r ?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: AmI i n danger of maki ng
24 communi cat i ons wi t h a r epr esent ed par t y t o t he ext ent
25 Mr . El cano i s, I ' massumi ng, I bel i eve hi mand hi s
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1 or gani zat i on r i ght now, and hi s l awyer J oseph Gear i ng' s
2 not her e?
3 MR. KI NG: No.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I want t o be sur e.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t know what ki nd of an
6 obj ect i on t hat i s, but l et ' s t ake t he i ssues one at a
7 t i me.
8 Mr . Ki ng you' r e pr of f er i ng.
9 MR. KI NG: I was aski ng t he wi t ness i f he
10 r ecogni zed t hi s par t i cul ar document .
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Have you mar ked i t ?
12 MR. KI NG: Yes. I t ' s been mar ked as Exhi bi t
13 3. I t has not been pr of f er ed yet .
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay.
15 THE WI TNESS: Yes.
16 BY MR. KI NG:
17 Q Which judge signed that order?
18 A J udge Li nda Gar dner , who i s a f ami l y cour t
19 j udge i n Washoe Count y, Nevada.
20 Q What is the date that she signed the order?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: You say i t ' s been mar ked, Pat ,
22 you haven' t ent er ed i t yet ?
23 MR. KI NG: That ' s cor r ect .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He hasn' t of f er ed i t yet .
25 MR. COUGHLI N: J ust a - -
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1 BY MR. KI NG:
2 Q The date next to her signature?
3 A Apr i l 10t h, 2009.
4 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o move t hat t hi s or der ,
5 a cer t i f i ed copy of whi ch has been pr oduced, be admi t t ed
6 as Exhi bi t No. 3.
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' l l obj ect , si r . I t j ust
8 l ooks subst ant i al l y di f f er ent t han what I have seen of
9 t hi s or der . Fur t her , t he r ecei ved on i t i s not cer t i f i ed,
10 and t hat goes t o a mat er i al i ssue her e t o t he ext ent t hat
11 t hi s i s pur por t edl y a ghost gr i evance. We don' t know how
12 t hi s mat er i al i zed at t he St at e Bar . We don' t know i f i t
13 i nvol ves some br ot her and si st er j udi ci al - - wel l , we
14 act ual l y ki nd of do know t hat J udge Li nda Gar dner passed
15 i t t o her br ot her , t he admi ni st r at or of muni cour t who
16 pr esi ded over t he t r espass convi ct i on. And he admi t s
17 passi ng t o J udge Nash Hol mes - -
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he obj ect i on?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: - - t he day bef or e Mar ch 15t h on
20 t hi s f i l ed her gr i evance wi t h t he St at e Bar .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s t he obj ect i on?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: I want t o know exact l y wher e
23 and how Mr . Ki ng got t hi s or der . Why t he 5 on t hi s Mar ch
24 15t h l ooks so odd and di f f er ent t han t he pr evi ous ver si ons
25 wher e - - i t l ooks l i ke somebody dr ew t he 5 i n a l i t t l e
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1 dar ker , Pat .
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So your obj ect i on i s what ,
3 si r ?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: He' s t al ki ng about i t bei ng
5 cer t i f i ed, and al l t hi s and t hat . I woul d l i ke some mor e
6 i nf or mat i on about t hat . How i s i t cer t i f i ed?
7 MR. KI NG: I asked t he wi t ness - - I was goi ng
8 t o ask t he wi t ness - - t he wi t ness i dent i f i ed t hi s as a
9 document he r ecogni zed t hat was si gned by t he j udge. The
10 wi t ness t est i f i ed t hat he hear d t he hear i ng.
11 BY MR. KI NG:
12 Q Why did this matter to you --
13 MR. COUGHLI N: No, he sai d i t ' s cer t i f i ed.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wai t . Pl ease. The exhi bi t
15 has been of f er ed. Your obj ect i on i s? I ' mst i l l not
16 cl ear .
17 MR. COUGHLI N: He' s sayi ng - - when you of f er ,
18 i t ' s my under st andi ng when you of f er , and I ' mnot t hat
19 gr eat at t hi s.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he obj ect i on?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s not cer t i f i ed, as f ar as I
22 know. I f you ar e goi ng t o be of f er i ng a j udi ci al
23 document , i t needs t o be a cer t i f i ed copy.
24 MR. KI NG: I t does not .
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d he get i t f r om- -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s one way of havi ng i t
2 admi t t ed i s t o be cer t i f i ed. Ther e' s ot her ways t o l ay a
3 f oundat i on. Do you have an obj ect i on?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , he sai d i t was cer t i f i ed.
5 So my obj ect i on i s, l et ' s see t he pr oof . Di d you get i t
6 f r omJ oey or Gi na Hast i ngs or di d you get i t f r omt he
7 cl er k of cour t of t he muni cour t ?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n. I ' mnot goi ng
9 t o ent er t ai n quest i ons bet ween and among t he l awyer s. I f
10 you have a quest i on, di r ect i t t o t he panel or t he
11 wi t ness. The obj ect i on i s t hi s l acks f oundat i on?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: No. That t hi s cer t i f i cat i on
13 hadn' t been pr oved or even spoken t o besi des - -
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I s i t your posi t i on - -
15 MR. COUGHLI N: - - cer t i f i ed.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - posi t i on t hat onl y l egal
17 document s can be admi t t ed t hat ar e cer t i f i ed?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , I di dn' t make a posi t i on
19 on t hat . My posi t i on i s he sai d i t was cer t i f i ed. So I ' m
20 cont est i ng t hat .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I s t hi s cer t i f i ed?
22 MR. KI NG: Let me get t he cl er k t o br i ng t he
23 cer t i f i cat i on copi es, unl ess she gave t hemt o you al r eady,
24 whi ch I under st ood she di d. Di d she br i ng you copi es?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s par t i cul ar one i s not
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1 cer t i f i ed. Do you have one t hat ' s cer t i f i ed?
2 MR. KI NG: I have al r eady i nt r oduced - - t he
3 copi es do not show t hat i t ' s cer t i f i ed.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Your Honor , i f I can qui ckl y
5 i nt er j ect f or t he r ecor d, I mean t hat not di sr espect f ul .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e we on t he r ecor d? Ar e
7 you get t i ng t hi s, Ms. Repor t er ?
8 THE COURT REPORTER: Yes.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead.
10 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, I ' l l l ay - - I
11 under st ood, and si nce t hi s has been f i l ed wi t h t he cour t s
12 t hat we have cer t i f i ed copi es. Si nce t he copy I gave you
13 i s not cer t i f i ed, I ' mgoi ng t o l ay a f oundat i on a
14 di f f er ent way and wi t hdr aw t he r epr esent at i on t hat t he
15 copy I gave i s a cer t i f i ed copy.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah. And t hat ' s j ust anot her
17 basi s f or al l - - t he 13t h t i me on t he cl ock. I ' mgoi ng t o
18 say f or mal l y yes, I t hi nk a r ecusal i s appr opr i at e. And I
19 t hi nk, Pat , you need t o consi der whet her t hat ' s f r aud, t o
20 be sayi ng i t ' s cer t i f i ed, backt r acki ng once you get caught
21 on i t . But I ' mj ust goi ng t o put t hat out f or t he r ecor d.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s deal wi t h t hi s. Ar e
23 you now maki ng a mot i on t hat I shoul d r ecuse mysel f ?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Do you t hi nk you shoul d?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. Ar e you maki ng t hat
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1 mot i on?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah, I t hi nk so. Pr obabl y.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wel l , t hen ar t i cul at e your
4 posi t i on. I ' d l i ke t o hear i t .
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t ' s been set f or t h
6 enough.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Set f or t h what ?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: You' ve admi t t ed t o bei ng
9 chi l dhood f r i ends. Ther e' s a r at her odd suggest i on t hat
10 you di dn' t know you bot h went t o St anf or d i n 1966 despi t e
11 bei ng chi l dhood f r i ends, and bei ng i n nor t her n Nevada
12 pr act i ci ng l aw or member s of t he l egal communi t y. And I
13 woul d l i ke t o know any ot her r el evant nexus bet ween t he
14 t wo of you.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So your basi s f or movi ng t hat
16 I shoul d r ecuse mysel f i s t hat I knew Mr . El cano as a
17 chi l dhood f r i end, and we wer e at t he same school t oget her ?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: And t he f act t hat Mr . Ki ng has
19 wor n ever y di f f er ent hat he' s want ed t o wear her e. The
20 f act he j ust sai d somet hi ng was cer t i f i ed, t hen he
21 backt r acks and - - you asked me f or my basi s.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' maski ng you
23 t o f ocus on your mot i on f or r ecusal . I s i t your posi t i on
24 t hat l egal l y any j udi ci al of f i cer must r ecuse t hemsel ves
25 i f he happens t o have - -
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot goi ng t o get nar r owed
2 down i nt o i f you wer e chi l dhood f r i ends. I ' mt el l i ng you
3 my basi s, and t hat i s t hat t her e i s t oo much f unny
4 busi ness goi ng on her e.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' d l i ke t o set f or t h
7 speci f i cal l y.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' ve asked you t o t hr ee
9 t i mes, and you won' t do i t .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: You want t o nar r ow i t down j ust
11 i f you wer e chi l dhood f r i ends, and I want t o go wi t h t he
12 t ot al i t y of t he ci r cumst ances.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar t i cul at e your case, si r .
14 I ' ve asked you t o.
15 THE WI TNESS: SCR 105' s been t hr own out t he
16 wi ndow. You' ve r ul ed on mot i ons bef or e I ' ve even had a
17 chance t o oppose t hemor f i l e a r epl y t o an opposi t i on.
18 You cl ai mt hat NRCP i s appl i cabl e her e. Yet under NRCP
19 when I f i l e a mot i on t o bi f ur cat e, and he f i l ed an
20 opposi t i on, and I get t hr ee days f or mai l i ng under 6- C,
21 and he pur por t s t o f i l e i t on t he 24t h, and you r ul e on i t
22 when? On t he 30t h? Don' t I get f i ve days, pl us t hr ee f or
23 mai l i ng t o f i l e my opposi t i on t o pr eser ve f or appeal ?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So shoul d we di sr egar d t he
25 mot i ons you f i l ed wi t hout gi vi ng t he St at e Bar t he
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1 oppor t uni t y t o r espond t i mel y? I had t wo mot i ons shoved
2 under my door l ast ni ght . Shoul d t hose be di sr egar ded
3 under your l egal r easoni ng? Because you di d not of f er t he
4 St at e Bar t he oppor t uni t y t o r espond.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , t hat - -
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes or no, Mr . Coughl i n?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s not a yes or no.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes, i t i s.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: That woul d ent ai l f i gur i ng out
10 whet her or not 30 days pr i or t o t he hear i ng - -
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s f ocus on t he i ssues
12 back. You' ve made a mot i on now t o r equi r e me t o r ecuse
13 mysel f .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You made i t on t he basi s
16 t hat , one, Mr . El cano and I knew each ot her as chi l dhood
17 f r i ends. And t wo, t hat we at t ended t he same school
18 t oget her , appar ent l y. And you say i t ' s suspi ci ous t hat I
19 di d not know t hat . Anyt hi ng el se?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Ever y - -
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng el se?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Ever y aspect of SCR 1052( c) has
23 been vi ol at ed by your or der s. And t he way t hi s t hi ng has
24 been r un, you have t hr own out ever y l ast pr ocedur al due
25 pr ocess subst ant i ve pr ot ect i on accor ded me f or my pr oper t y
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1 r i ght under t he 14t h Amendment . You have i nsul t ed me by
2 t he way you have r un t hi s panel .
3 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man - -
4 MR. COUGHLI N: And I f i nd out you' r e chi l dhood
5 f r i ends wi t h a guy I ' msui ng.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mchi l dhood f r i ends wi t h
7 j ust i ce - -
8 MR. COUGHLI N: And you went t o St anf or d
9 t oget her i n ' 66, and you di dn' t know t hat . And l et me
10 guess. Ar e you on t he Basque boar d t oo f or UNR? And Paul
11 t el l s us he' s Basque ever y f i ve mi nut es you t al k t o hi m.
12 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man. My exper i ence wi t h
13 Mr . Coughl i n i s i f t hi s i s al l owed t o cont i nue, he wi l l be
14 t hr i l l ed, and i t wi l l go on f or ei ght hour s. My wi t ness
15 has a l i mi t ed t i me.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: And your of f i ce i s a st one' s
17 t hr ow f r omt he St at e Bar .
18 MR. KI NG: I need t o move f or war d, because t he
19 wi t ness has l i mi t ed t i me, wi t h your per mi ssi on.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: I l i ke you per sonal l y. I t hi nk
21 you' r e a char mi ng guy. I do, your Honor . J ust l i ke
22 Mr . El cano. But t he cl ock chi med 13 t i mes. And i f I
23 don' t put i nt o t he r ecor d what i s i t goi ng t o say on
24 appeal ? They ar e t r yi ng t o mer ge me her e. Let ' s be
25 honest . So i f i t ' s a mer gi ng t hat ' s goi ng on her e, I ' m
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1 goi ng t o pr eser ve ever yt hi ng f or t he r ecor d.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o over r ul e your
3 mot i on f or r ecusal . The supr eme cour t has al r eady r ul ed
4 t hat t he f act t hat a j udge knows a wi t ness or a l awyer i s
5 not , i n and of i t sel f , gr ounds f or r ecusal . That ' s been
6 deci ded and l i t i gat ed i n t hi s st at e. So t he mot i on f or
7 r ecusal i s over r ul ed.
8 Mr . Ki ng, pr oceed t o l ay t he f oundat i on f or
9 Exhi bi t 3.
10 BY MR. KI NG:
11 Q Exhibit 3. Thank you. You just testified
12 that this is the order that emanated from the hearing you
13 heard?
14 A Yes.
15 Q And why were you concerned about this
16 particular order?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y. I don' t want t o
18 t ake up mor e t i me. I f I can i ncor por at e by r ef er ence al l
19 my pr ocedur al whi ni ng and moani ng f or why I t hi nk t he
20 r ecusal i s appr opr i at e.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I s t hi s a mot i on you f i l ed
22 wi t hi n t he l ast 30 days?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s har d, because Mr . Ki ng
24 l i es t o me so much about how t hi ngs - -
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch mot i on - -
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: - - whet her t hey' r e f i l ed or
2 not , whet her t hey wi l l accept , who cont r ol s who, who t he
3 cl er k of cour t has i ndependence f r om. I don' t know what ' s
4 bei ng done by anybody, what I need t o do f or a subpoena,
5 whet her I have t o pay wi t ness f ees, or whet her t he
6 cer t i f i ed mai l i ng of August 23r d i s goi ng t o be used - -
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Coughl i n.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Ther e i s no r et ur n of ser vi ce
9 her e.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n. I ' mgoi ng t o
11 i nt er r upt you. You' r e of f base. We' r e f ocusi ng on
12 Exhi bi t 3.
13 Pr oceed, Mr . Ki ng.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I i ncor por at e by
15 r ef er ence - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t know what you ar e
17 t r yi ng t o i ncor por at e - -
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Al l my f i l i ngs. The ar gument s.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I ' mnot goi ng t o al l ow
20 you t o i ncor por at e al l your f i l i ngs.
21 Mr . Ki ng, pl ease pr oceed.
22 MR. KI NG: Thank you, Mr . Chai r man. I
23 appr eci at e your pat i ence.
24 BY MR. KI NG:
25 Q If you recall the question, it was, why did
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1 you find that -- or did you find that order important?
2 A Under t hi s or der Mr . Coughl i n was sanct i oned
3 f or at t or ney' s f ees i n, I f or get t he amount , $900- some as
4 I r ecal l . $934.
5 MS. PEARL: Can you speak up, pl ease? I can
6 bar el y hear you.
7 THE WI TNESS: $934 he was sanct i oned i n
8 at t or ney' s f ees. And as a r esul t of t he sanct i on, I
9 r evi ewed t he t r anscr i pt .
10 BY MR. KI NG:
11 Q This hearing, you testified that this hearing
12 and the resulting order were one of the factors that you
13 used to determine that Mr. Coughlin is not competent to
14 practice; is that correct?
15 A Yes. That ' s t he f i r st , t he f i r st r eal l y maj or
16 one.
17 Q The court specifically --
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. That wasn' t pl ed i n
19 r el evancy. And Mr . El cano has not been qual i f i ed as an
20 exper t t o pr ovi de t he opi ni on as t o someone' s compet ency
21 t o pr act i ce l aw.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
23 BY MR. KI NG:
24 Q Could you -- for the record could you read
25 from Page 13 of the Order, which is the one that contains
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1 her signature, the paragraph that begins at Line No. 5 and
2 goes to Line 13?
3 A Yes. " The most t r oubl i ng aspect of t hi s case
4 was Mr . Coughl i n' s r ude, sar cast i c, and di sr espect f ul
5 pr esent at i on at t r i al . Mr . Coughl i n' s i nabi l i t y t o
6 under st and t he bal ance sheet , hi s f ai l ur e t o conduct
7 di scover y, and hi s l ack of knowl edge wi t h r egar d t o t he
8 r ul es of evi dence and t r i al pr ocedur e. Al l of t hi s was
9 compounded wi t h a cont i nuousl y ant agoni st i c pr esent at i on
10 of t he case t hat r esul t ed i n a shi f t f r oma f ai r l y si mpl e
11 di vor ce case t o a cont ent i ous di vor ce t r i al l ast i ng an
12 excessi ve amount of t i me. "
13 Q In the next sentence the court also finds that
14 the "arguments in support thereof to be unfounded in fact,
15 unwarranted by existing law, unreasonable, and vexatious
16 throughout this entire proceeding."
17 Is that a correct statement of that order?
18 A For t he most par t , yes.
19 Q Is there anything that needs to be clarified?
20 A No, I don' t t hi nk so. I ' mj ust sayi ng t hat my
21 r evi ew of t he t r anscr i pt conf i r med t hat .
22 Q When you listened to the -- were you a
23 supervisor -- at this time were you a supervisor of
24 Mr. Coughlin?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q Did you determine -- did you have an opinion
2 at that time, having listened to the hearing itself, did
3 you determine that the position of the judge was correct?
4 A Yes.
5 Q What was another factor that formed your
6 opinion that Mr. Coughlin is not currently competent to
7 practice law?
8 A Sever al t hi ngs have happened si nce. Ther e
9 have been t wo i ssues t hat I ' mper sonal l y awar e of deal i ng
10 wi t h di shonest y.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on.
12 THE WI TNESS: The qual i t y - -
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Foundat i on. Hear say.
14 Rel evancy.
15 THE WI TNESS: The qual i t y of t he wor k - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
17 THE WI TNESS: - - t hat has comes acr oss my desk
18 has been di sj oi nt ed, f i l l ed wi t h i r r el evant mat er i al , and
19 has not met r easonabl e compet ency st andar ds. He' s had a
20 t or t i ous r esi dent i al pat t er n, and I don' t bel i eve he' s
21 made any t ype of r egul ar of f i ce, so i t woul d be di f f i cul t
22 f or cl i ent s t o cont act hi mbased on what I have seen and
23 know. And I don' t bel i eve he has a ment al st at us t hat ' s
24 capabl e of exhi bi t i ng j udgment t o counsel peopl e i n what
25 t hey shoul d and shoul dn' t do wi t h t hei r l egal si t uat i ons.
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1 BY MR. KI NG:
2 Q In your capacity as a supervisor and somebody
3 who said they like Mr. Coughlin, did you attempt to advise
4 Mr. Coughlin to seek mental health or assistance with his
5 circumstances?
6 A No, I don' t bel i eve I ' ve ever advi sed
7 Mr . Coughl i n t o do t hat . Because of t he J oshi mat t er he
8 was t er mi nat ed, and I di dn' t have any f ur t her cont act wi t h
9 hi m.
10 Q Did you have contact with his family?
11 A I ' ve had, subsequent t o hi s t er mi nat i on, I
12 bel i eve somewher e i n t he nei ghbor hood of t wo or t hr ee
13 t el ephone cal l s wi t h hi s f at her , maybe f our , t r yi ng t o
14 f i nd a way t o get hi msome hel p.
15 Q To your knowledge, has Mr. Coughlin ever
16 heeded the recommendation that he get help?
17 A I have no knowl edge one way or anot her .
18 Q There are some times when a person has an
19 issue or mental infirmity or whatever is going on if they
20 are nice. How would you describe, in terms of
21 Mr. Coughlin, his demeanor in his current state?
22 A As we si t her e t oday?
23 Q If you know what his --
24 A I haven' t seen Zach si nce - - I haven' t seen
25 hi mf or a l ong t i me. Today i s t he f i r st t i me I ' ve seen
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1 hi m.
2 Q Back when you were supervising him, and he
3 wasn't acting appropriately, how would you describe his
4 demeanor?
5 A Wel l , we had hi mf or t hi s gi ven per i od of
6 t i me. And i ni t i al l y I wor ked on vi r t ual l y - - when we
7 hi r ed hi m, I knew t hat Zach had had some i ssues i n t he
8 past . I di d not know he had any ment al i ssues. Or even
9 i f he di d, I don' t know t hat t o t hi s day. And so I
10 ment or ed hi mand wat ched hi mver y cl osel y f or a per i od of
11 t i me, and hi s wor k seemed t o i mpr ove.
12 We had some compl ai nt s f r omt he t wo women' s
13 shel t er s, CAAWand Tahoe Women' s Ser vi ces, over t he cour se
14 of , I coul dn' t be exact , I woul d have t o check, but maybe
15 t he f i r st year . I ' mver y pr ot ect i ve of my empl oyees. I
16 met wi t h t he peopl e f r omt hose t wo shel t er s. I t hought
17 t hey wer e bi ased i n par t . And I r evi ewed some of
18 Mr . Coughl i n' s cl i ent s, and I di dn' t r eal l y t hi nk t her e
19 was a cr i t i cal i ssue.
20 And af t er about a year , 18 mont hs, he st ar t ed
21 t o det er i or at e, i n my opi ni on, st ar t ed t o have
22 di f f i cul t i es, ser i ous di f f i cul t i es, r el at i ng wi t h ot her
23 empl oyees. And t hen about t hi s t i me t he or der came down
24 f r omJ udge Gar dner . And af t er I r evi ewed t he t r anscr i pt ,
25 I di dn' t bel i eve we coul d mai nt ai n hi mas an empl oyee.
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1 And one of t he t hi ngs t hat was r el evant t her e
2 i s t hat t hi s hear i ng t ook pl ace i n t wo sect i ons; I want t o
3 say t hey wer e a week or t en days apar t . And t he conduct
4 and t he cr i t i ci sms of t he conduct by t he j udge i n t he
5 f i r st hear i ng, Mr . Coughl i n came back and behaved exact l y
6 t he same way i n t he second hear i ng, he had not heeded
7 anyt hi ng t he j udge had t ol d hi m.
8 And Mr . Coughl i n i s not st upi d. So I t ook
9 t hat i n l ar ge par t t o be a compet ency i ssue.
10 MR. KI NG: I ver y much appr eci at e your
11 t est i mony and candor . I ' l l pass t he wi t ness.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you, Mr . Ki ng.
13 Mr . Coughl i n, i t ' s now 11: 31. You have 15 mi nut es.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . Thank you.
15 MR. KI NG: I apol ogi ze. I meant t o have t hi s
16 admi t t ed. Di d I l ay a pr oper f oundat i on? I woul d move
17 f or Exhi bi t 3 t o be admi t t ed.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any obj ect i on now, si r ?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I di dn' t hear t he f oundat i on.
20 I ' msor r y.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The f oundat i on was Mr . El cano
22 at t ended t he hear i ng, r evi ewed t hi s or der , and det er mi ned
23 i t t o be - -
24 Thi s i s a t r ue and cor r ect copy of t he or der
25 t hat you l ooked at f ol l owi ng t he hear i ng?
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1 THE WI TNESS: Yes. The one t hat was
2 t r ansmi t t ed t o us by t he j udge.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Tr ansmi t t ed j ust by t he j udge?
4 THE WI TNESS: We have a copy of i t i n our
5 f i l e.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Tr ansmi t t ed t o you?
7 THE WI TNESS: Washoe Legal Ser vi ces. I
8 checked i t wi t h my or der . I t appear s t o be t he same
9 or der .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: But you' r e not sayi ng how i t
11 was t r ansmi t t ed t o t he St at e Bar ?
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mi nt er est ed i n how i t was
13 t r ansmi t t ed. I ' mi nt er est ed i n i f t hi s i s a t r ue and
14 cor r ect copy of t he or der i ssued by J udge Gar dner i n t he
15 J oshi case - -
16 MR. COUGHLI N: You ment i oned he at t ended
17 t r i al . He di dn' t at t end t he t r i al .
18 MR. KI NG: He sai d he - -
19 MR. COUGHLI N: You sai d he at t ended t he t r i al .
20 But he di dn' t at t end t he t r i al .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . El cano t est i f i ed he
22 at t ended t he hear i ng.
23 THE WI TNESS: No, I r evi ewed t he t ape of t he
24 hear i ng. I wasn' t at t he hear i ng. But i n t he f ami l y
25 cour t t hey ar e on t ape.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mf ocused on whet her or not
2 t hi s i s a t r ue and cor r ect copy of t he or der i ssued by
3 J udge Gar dner . And have you det er mi ned t hi s t o be t he
4 t r ue and cor r ect copy?
5 THE WI TNESS: Yes. I t ' s t he or der I r el i ed
6 on.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t wi l l be admi t t ed.
8 ( Exhi bi t 3 admi t t ed. )
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead, Mr . Coughl i n.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: One t hi ng, your Honor , wi t h
11 r espect t o t he r ecei ved st amp on i t . That ' s somet hi ng
12 t hat was on t he or der .
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: See t he r ecei ved?
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ri ght .
16 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s St at e Bar .
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ri ght .
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Put t hat t her e.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ri ght .
20 MR. COUGHLI N: So i t ' s not r eal l y a copy of
21 t he or der . I t has somet hi ng t hat was not on t he or der .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay. Over r ul ed. I s t hat
23 your obj ect i on?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I t has a f unny 5 on i t . I t ' s
25 one day af t er J udge Gar dner submi t t ed her s. I t seems ki nd
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1 of f unny, l i ke ghost r eadi ng i s goi ng on, because we don' t
2 know who submi t t ed t hi s.
3 Who submi t t ed i t , Pat ?
4 MR. VELLI S: Mr . El cano, do you have anot her
5 copy of t he or der t hat you r ecei ved f r omt he cour t af t er
6 t he hear i ng t hat you compar ed t hi s one t o? I t hi nk you
7 sai d you di d?
8 THE WI TNESS: I compar ed i t t o i t . Mi ne has
9 t wo bl ank spot s i n i t t hough, t wo shor t ar eas, but
10 ot her wi se t hey seemt o be ver bat i mand end on t he same
11 pages.
12 MR. VELLI S: I s t her e a st amp f r omt he St at e
13 Bar on t he one t hat you got f r omt he cour t ?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: You di dn' t get t hi s f r omJ oey
15 or Gi na Hast i ngs - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mnot goi ng
17 t o per mi t quest i ons among t he at t or neys. That ' s i mpr oper .
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So i f you have a quest i on,
20 you need t o addr ess i t t o t he panel .
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s i mpr oper t o say i t ' s
22 cer t i f i ed when i t ' s not .
23 THE WI TNESS: The copy I r evi ewed i s f i l ed
24 el ect r oni cal l y by Howar d Conyer s, t he cl er k of t he cour t .
25 MR. VELLI S: And t her e' s no st amp f r omt he
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1 St at e Bar on t he one t hat you r evi ewed?
2 THE WI TNESS: No.
3 MR. VELLI S: That ' s t he one you r ecei ved f r om
4 t he cour t ?
5 THE WI TNESS: Yes.
6 MR. VELLI S: And t hat one i s t he same as t he
7 one t hat ' s been admi t t ed, Exhi bi t 3?
8 THE WI TNESS: Save and except t wo bl ank spot s
9 t hat ar e t he f aul t of t he copi er .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, i t ' s admi t t ed.
11 Pr oceed.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes. Thank you.
13 CROSS- EXAMI NATI ON
14 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
15 Q Mr. Elcano, did you tell me when I was working
16 at Washoe -- I'll say Washoe for short -- and I'll say I
17 like Mr. Elcano a great deal. I respect him a lot. I do.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot i nt er est ed i n your
19 si de i ssues. I f you have a quest i on of Mr . El cano, pl ease
20 ask hi m.
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay.
22 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
23 Q When you were telling me, giving me some
24 mentoring, that when you walk into that courtroom, that
25 courtroom is yours. It's not the judge's, it's not
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1 opposing counsel's, it's yours. Does that sound like
2 something you said to me?
3 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Was t her e an obj ect i on? I
5 di dn' t hear i t .
6 MR. KI NG: Yes. Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' l l over r ul e i t . Go ahead.
8 THE WI TNESS: Yes. Out of cont ext . But
9 t hat ' s a st at ement I woul d make, yes.
10 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
11 Q How is that reconciled with your criticism of
12 my work in the Joshi case?
13 A I don' t under st and t he quest i on. But your
14 wor k i n t he J oshi case was t hat i t was i ncompet ent . I t
15 had not hi ng t o do wi t h whet her or not you t ook over t he
16 cour t r oom. Ther e wer e no - - i t was a di vor ce case. Ther e
17 was no st at ement or i t emi zat i on of t he communi t y pr oper t y.
18 Ther e was no st at ement or i t emi zat i on of t he communi t y
19 debt s. You wer e compl et el y at a l oss as t o i ssues of
20 r el evance. You made obj ect i ons l i ke you di d t oday t hat
21 went over and over and over agai n wi t hout l egal basi s, and
22 i ncor por at ed st r ange r ul es.
23 The j udge ki ndl y t r i ed t o gi ve you di r ect i on,
24 whi ch you t ot al l y eschewed. You di d t hi s f or t hr ee or
25 f our hour s t he f i r st t i me, came back a week or t en days
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1 l at er and di d i t agai n. I t had not hi ng t o do wi t h whet her
2 or not you t ook cont r ol of t he cour t r oom.
3 Q Have you reviewed the mandamus position I
4 filed in response to that sanction?
5 A I don' t know. I don' t r ecal l .
6 Q You fire an attorney based on, in your words,
7 solely in light of her order, yet you don't recall whether
8 or not you reviewed a petition for writ of mandamus that
9 attorney filed?
10 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve, and
11 mi schar act er i zes t he t est i mony.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: That at t or ney t hat i s sui ng
13 your or gani zat i on r i ght now.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' ve compounded t he
15 quest i on. The quest i on i s: Do you r ecal l r evi ewi ng t he
16 wr i t of mandamus? Hi s answer i s no, he doesn' t r ecal l
17 havi ng r evi ewed i t . Go on t o your next quest i on.
18 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
19 Q To clarify, your answer is you don't recall?
20 A I don' t r ecal l r evi ewi ng t he mandamus. I
21 r ecal l r evi ewi ng your mot i on f or r econsi der at i on of
22 60- some pages or 58 pages, but not mandamus.
23 Q So even -- did that reconsideration motion
24 evince any more competency or skill in that family law
25 setting than you felt was shown at the trial?
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1 A No.
2 Q Are you aware of whether or not the majority
3 viewpoint of the law was argued by me vis--vis the setoff
4 or impermissibility thereof of a domestic duty with a
5 third party debt, such as was presented by
6 Mr. Springgate's illusory settlement offer of waiving
7 alimony in exchange for his client agreeing to be
8 responsible for a multitude of third-party debts on which
9 he was the sole signature?
10 A I don' t under st and t he quest i on.
11 Q And yet you --
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wai t a mi nut e. He i ndi cat ed
13 he di dn' t under st and t he quest i on. Qui t e f r ankl y, I
14 di dn' t ei t her . I f el t i t was compound. Do you want t o
15 ask si mpl e quest i ons?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
17 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
18 Q What's your understanding with respect to the
19 position taken by me in that trial vis-a-vis the majority
20 viewpoint of law on setting off or offsetting domestic
21 duties like alimony or child support with third-party
22 debts in a property settlement or debt settlement context?
23 A I ' mst i l l not sur e I under st and t he quest i on.
24 But t her e wer e no chi l dr en, as I r ecal l , so chi l d cust ody
25 had no i ssue i n i t . And i n t er ms of t he of f set , I don' t
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1 know what l aw you pr of f er ed.
2 Q Well, a duty like alimony. A domestic duty.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: To me t hat ' s an i ncompl et e
4 quest i on. What ' s t he compl et e quest i on?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I guess I ' mt r yi ng t o ascer t ai n
6 Mr . El cano' s awar eness of t he posi t i on.
7 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
8 Q What's your understanding of the
9 permissibility of setting off a debt with a duty, a
10 domestic duty?
11 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. I r r el evant .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d you say r el evancy? May I
14 r espond t o i t , your Honor ? J ust t o t he ext ent Mr . El cano
15 i s her e t oday pur por t i ng t o cr i t i que my wor k i n t hat
16 r egar d, I t hi nk i t i s r el evant t o ascer t ai n whet her or not
17 he has any sor t of concept i on of per mi ssi bi l i t y of set t i ng
18 of f a domest i c dut y, l i ke al i mony, wi t h some debt . My
19 poi nt .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you f i ni shed?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah. And I di dn' t end i t ver y
22 wel l , but I di dn' t want t o gi ve away what I f eel t he
23 answer i s or t he maj or i t y vi ewpoi nt of Amer i can l aw.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The obj ect i on i s sust ai ned.
25 Mr . Coughl i n, i t ' s now 11: 41. You have f i ve
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1 mor e mi nut es.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. Real l y? The r el evancy
3 obj ect i on i s sust ai ned. He get s t o t est i f y as t o how
4 cl uel ess I am. And t hi s when I ask t o see i f he has any
5 sor t of knowl edge i n t hi s ar ea, i t ' s not r el evant ?
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He' s t est i f i ed on a number of
7 i ssues as t o your compet ency, your demeanor i n t he
8 cour t r oom, your conduct t owar d wi t nesses, t owar d j udges,
9 your abi l i t y t o f ol l ow t he j udge' s di r ect i ons.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: They ar e al l r el evant when he
11 was t al ki ng about t hem.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Those i ssues ar e, si r .
13 Whet her or not he knows t he i nt r i caci es of some f i ne poi nt
14 of l aw t o me i s i r r el evant . Now, i f you have some
15 quest i ons t o addr ess t o Mr . El cano, pl ease do so, and
16 l et ' s not ar gue.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay.
18 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
19 Q Mr. Elcano, for you to have any sort of
20 legitimate informed bases for the opinion you proffered
21 here today with respect to my competency incident to my
22 work in that Joshi case, wouldn't you need to know whether
23 or not a domestic duty is accorded greater significance
24 and protection in the law than is a third-party debt --
25 A No.
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1 Q -- therein? It's not permissible to do
2 essentially what Judge Gardner tried to force on my
3 client, which is accept a settlement, whereby a setoff is
4 made whereby my client waived her alimony in exchange for
5 Mr. Springgate's client saying he set it off by the debts,
6 by taking them on, even though they could never get at her
7 anyway because he was the sole signatory.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I s t her e a quest i on t her e,
9 Mr . Coughl i n?
10 THE WI TNESS: I don' t under st and.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Or i s t hat a st at ement ?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I t i s a st at ement . I t hi nk - -
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Then ask a - -
14 MR. COUGHLI N: He' s t al ki ng about t hi ngs he
15 doesn' t know about .
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Then ask a quest i on.
17 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
18 Q Was it appropriate for Judge Gardner to tell
19 my client, Ms. Joshi, not to listen to her attorney in a
20 close-range informal settlement conference?
21 A I don' t r ecal l t hat i ssue. I have no opi ni on
22 on i t .
23 Q You don't recall that issue?
24 A No.
25 Q Do you know whether or not Judge Gardner in
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1 sitting informally with myself and Ms. Joshi in the
2 settlement conference impromptu five minutes before the
3 trial told me to shut up?
4 A No, I have no knowl edge of t hat .
5 Q Do you know whether she told my client not to
6 listen to her attorney?
7 A I have no knowl edge of t hat set t l ement
8 conf er ence.
9 Q Do you know whether or not all these materials
10 were cited in filings?
11 A I don' t under st and t hat quest i on. I don' t
12 know what mat er i al s you' r e t al ki ng about .
13 Q Were those issues brought up in filings that
14 you have purported to this panel to have read and
15 reviewed?
16 A No, I r ead t he or der .
17 Q But you didn't just read the order; right?
18 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Ar gument at i ve.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That i s ar gument at i ve. You
20 can ask i t i n a way t hat i s not ar gument at i ve.
21 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
22 Q Didn't you testify earlier that you read the
23 motion for reconsideration?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e not i nt er est ed i n what
25 he pr evi ousl y t est i f i ed t o. That ' s on t he r ecor d. Ask a
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1 di r ect quest i on.
2 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
3 Q Did you read anything besides the order?
4 A Back at t he t i me of your t er mi nat i on I di d go
5 t hr ough t he f i l e. I don' t r emember cur r ent l y what I r ead.
6 I r ead your mot i on f or r econsi der at i on when i t was f i l ed.
7 Q Did you hire Lindy Wisher before her Bar
8 results came in?
9 A We hi r ed Li ndy Wi sher l ong bef or e she went t o
10 l aw school .
11 Q Right. But as an attorney, before her Bar
12 results came back, did you extend an offer of employment
13 to her?
14 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Rel evance.
15 THE WI TNESS: Yes, si r .
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I t goes t o wi t ness bi as.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Goes t o what ?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Goes t o bi as. Mr . El cano
19 hi r ed - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s now 11: 46. I ' mgoi ng t o
21 af f or d you t wo mor e mi nut es.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
23 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
24 Q Did you say that Matt Pinkolini couldn't deal
25 with working with Karen Sternly?
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1 A I don' t t hi nk I sai d t hat i n t hose wor ds.
2 Q Did you say anything remotely like that?
3 A I don' t r ecal l . I can t est i f y t hat Mat t
4 Pi nkol i ni l ef t our empl oy, and he di d not enj oy wor ki ng
5 wi t h Kar en St er nl y. Exact l y why he l ef t , I can' t t el l
6 you.
7 Q Would that be a similar basis for Larry
8 Belasco leaving the domestic violence unit?
9 A That I ' mnot sur e of . But Lar r y Bel asco
10 want ed a t r ansf er t o wor k i n t he chi l d advocacy uni t .
11 When an openi ng came up, I moved hi m.
12 Q Did he ever communicate to you a displeasure
13 in working with Miss Sternly?
14 A He may have.
15 Q Did he?
16 A I don' t r ecal l exact l y, but he may have. I
17 know I ' ve had di f f i cul t i es i n wor ki ng wi t h her , so i t
18 woul dn' t sur pr i se me i f Lar r y Bel asco had some.
19 Q Did you have a communication with me incident
20 to some of these complaints or a complaint, I don't know
21 if it was the Tahoe one or CAAW one or if it was Rhonda or
22 something, in about January-February 2009, wherein you
23 said, you know what? I asked Master Edmondson about you,
24 and I asked Judge Gardner -- might have been it was Judge
25 Gardner by that point -- and they both gave you thumbs up,
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1 or something similar to that?
2 A No. I don' t t hi nk you' r e char act er i zi ng what
3 I sai d cor r ect l y.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Your t i me has expi r ed,
5 Mr . Coughl i n. Do you want t o ask one mor e quest i on?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes. I woul d l i ke hi mt o
7 cl ar i f y as t o wher e I ' mami ss t her e. What i t i s t hat he
8 mi ght have sai d.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead, i f you can,
10 Mr . El cano.
11 THE WI TNESS: Per i odi cal l y I ask j udges how
12 our empl oyees ar e doi ng, and especi al l y i f t her e' s a
13 compl ai nt . And somewher e ear l y on or t o t he mi ddl e of
14 Mr . Coughl i n' s empl oyment I asked one or t wo j udges i f he
15 was doi ng okay, and t hey sai d he was doi ng okay. So as a
16 r esul t , I di d not pur sue t he compl ai nt of t he t wo shel t er
17 or gani zat i ons. So I st ood by my empl oyee at t hat t i me
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng f ur t her , Mr . Ki ng?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Was one of t hose j udges, J udge
20 Gar dner ?
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, your t i me has
22 expi r ed.
23 MR. KI NG: I don' t know i f t he panel has any
24 quest i ons, but I don' t .
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any quest i ons f r omt he panel
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1 member s?
2 May Mr . El cano be excused?
3 MR. KI NG: Thank you f or your t i me t oday.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Cal l your next wi t ness.
5 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o see i f I can get J udge
6 Hol mes on t he phone.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Why don' t we do t hat . I f she
8 i s avai l abl e, i f t he panel agr ees, l et ' s go ahead and t ake
9 her t est i mony, and t hen t ake a l unch br eak. Because t hat
10 may put her t hr ough her l unch br eak, whi ch may accommodat e
11 her schedul e as wel l .
12 MR. VELLI S: I agr ee.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I ent er my obj ect i on t o her
14 t est i f yi ng by phone?
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I di dn' t hear t hat . Was t hat
16 somet hi ng f or t he r ecor d?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Ent er i ng my obj ect i on t o her
18 appear i ng by t el ephone. I woul d l i ke her t o be swor n. I f
19 I may ask f or t hat .
20 ( Pl aci ng phone cal l t o J udge Hol mes. )
21 MR. KI NG: J udge Hol mes, as you know, my name
22 i s Pat Ki ng, assi st ant Bar counsel , r epr esent i ng t he St at e
23 Bar i n a di sci pl i nar y act i on agai nst Zach Coughl i n. Di d
24 you under st and t hat I was aski ng you t o t est i f y t oday on
25 t hat ?
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1 J UDGE HOLMES: Yes. And I ' mavai l abl e, and
2 I ' mher e, and I ' mr eady.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Can we have her swor n?
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: J ust a second, Mr . Coughl i n.
5 Di d you have somet hi ng, Mr . Ki ng?
6 MR. KI NG: I was goi ng t o l ay out t he r oom.
7 But maybe have her swor n f i r st .
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: J udge Hol mes, t hi s i s J ohn
9 Echever r i a. I ' mt he chai r of t he panel . And we' l l ask
10 t he cour t r epor t er t o swear you i n at t hi s t i me.
11 ( The oat h was admi ni st er ed t el ephoni cal l y
12 t o t he wi t ness. )
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: J udge Hol mes, t he panel has
14 pr evi ousl y i ssued an or der t hat we' r e goi ng t o l i mi t each
15 si de' s exami nat i on and cr oss- exami nat i on of t he wi t nesses
16 t o 15 mi nut es.
17 J UDGE HOLMES: Okay.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e usi ng t he cl ock her e at
19 t he St at e Bar of f i ce. The cl ock her e says i t ' s 11: 51. So
20 I ' l l gi ve Mr . Ki ng 15 mi nut es t o put you on di r ect .
21 J UDGE HOLMES: Al l r i ght . Let me j ust war n
22 you t hat my cel l phone, i f I di sconnect , i t ' s because my
23 cel l phone bat t er y i s dyi ng. I f i t st ar t s get t i ng l ow,
24 I ' l l go up t o my r oomand keep t al ki ng t o you.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Al so, do you have any
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1 obj ect i on - - t he panel f eel s t hat we woul d l i ke t o go
2 ahead and get your compl et e t est i mony even t hough we mi ght
3 encr oach i nt o t he noon hour . I s t hat agr eeabl e wi t h you?
4 J UDGE HOLMES: Yeah, t hat ' s f i ne.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s now 11: 52. Let ' s st ar t
6 t he t i me at t hat poi nt .
7 MR. KI NG: Wi t h your per mi ssi on, may I move
8 cl oser t o t he phone?
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sur e.
10 DOROTHY NASH HOLMES
11 havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, t est i f i ed as f ol l ows:
12 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
13 BY MR. KI NG:
14 Q Judge Holmes, could you explain to the panel
15 how you -- whether or not you formed an opinion as to
16 Mr. Coughlin's competency to practice law in Nevada?
17 A Yes, I di d. I was t he pr esi di ng j udge i n a
18 t r af f i c t r i al wher e he was t he def endant , and al so
19 r epr esent i ng hi msel f . And i t was a t r af f i c t i cket case,
20 and i t was qui t e an or deal . We basi cal l y went t hr ough a
21 coupl e, t hr ee hour s of t r i al , and I saw hi s per f or mance at
22 t hat t i me, and i t caused me t o dr aw some concl usi ons.
23 Q Did you end up holding Mr. Coughlin in
24 criminal contempt?
25 A I di d. As I sai d, t he t r i al was a bi t of an
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1 or deal . I hel d hi mi n cont empt because of numer ous ant i cs
2 and act i ons, and what I consi der ed t o be mi sconduct t hat
3 he was per f or mi ng dur i ng t he r epr esent at i on of hi msel f .
4 ( Exhi bi t 4 mar ked. )
5 BY MR. KI NG:
6 Q I'm holding in my hand an order that was
7 signed by you dated the 28th of February, 2012, in the
8 matter of 11 TR, which I assume stands for traffic, 26800
9 21. And it's an order finding the defendant in contempt
10 of court and imposing sanctions. Do you recall executing
11 such an order?
12 A Yes, I di d. I wr ot e i t mysel f , and I si gned
13 i t , and I f ound hi mi n cont empt , i n di r ect cont empt dur i ng
14 t he pr oceedi ng, and r i ght af t er t hat di d t he or der .
15 Q I'm reading from Page 3 of your order, which
16 is the final page that has your signature on it before the
17 service, certificate of service. But in that final
18 paragraph it says, "The court finds that the defendant's
19 actions were intentional and done in utter disregard and
20 contempt for the court, and in the presence of the court,
21 for purposes of disrupting and delaying the proceedings
22 and dishonoring the rule of law and this court, and
23 constitute the misdemeanor of criminal contempt, a
24 violation of NRS 22.010. Good cause appearing therefore,
25 the following sanctions are imposed."
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1 Did you write that order?
2 A Yes, I di d.
3 Q Is there anything that's occurred since you
4 issued the order to make you believe that your order is
5 not accurate?
6 A Wel l , no. I ' ve seen Mr . Coughl i n a f ew mor e
7 t i mes, and I bel i eve he' s got some ser i ous ment al i l l ness
8 i ssues t hat dr i ve hi s conduct . But I don' t bel i eve t hat
9 he i s capabl e of pr act i ci ng l aw because of ei t her case,
10 whet her i t ' s because he i nt ent i onal l y act s t hat way or
11 because he i s unabl e t o cont r ol hi s act i ons and act s t hat
12 way.
13 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o ask t hat Exhi bi t No. 4
14 be admi t t ed, whi ch i s t he or der t hat I j ust had t he j udge
15 conf i r mi s her or der .
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any obj ect i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: She i s not her e t o be abl e t o
18 see i t .
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: She i s not her e t o see i t , so
21 she can' t conf i r mi t .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you wr i t e - - J udge
23 Hol mes, t hi s i s J ohn Echever r i a. Di d you wr i t e any ot her
24 or der i n t he case of Ci t y of Reno ver sus Zachar y Bar ker
25 Coughl i n t hat was dat ed Febr uar y 28t h, 2012?
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1 THE WI TNESS: No. I wr ot e one or der hol di ng
2 hi mi n cont empt .
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That was l odged wi t h - - was
4 t hat l odged wi t h t he Reno Muni ci pal Cour t on t hat same
5 day?
6 THE WI TNESS: Yes, i t was. And t hen I
7 pr ovi ded a copy of t hat t o Mr . Ki ng at hi s r equest .
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I bel i eve t hi s Exhi bi t 4 has
9 been aut hent i cat ed, and I al l ow i t t o be admi t t ed.
10 ( Exhi bi t 4 admi t t ed. )
11 THE WI TNESS: And t he par t he r ead f r om, I ' m
12 f ami l i ar wi t h, and I r evi ewed i t agai n bef or e when he
13 asked me t o be avai l abl e f or t est i mony.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay. Thank you, J udge.
15 ( Exhi bi t 5 mar ked. )
16 MR. KI NG: I s number 4 admi t t ed?
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes.
18 BY MR. KI NG:
19 Q Your Honor, I've asked another order be marked
20 for identification purposes that was signed by you on the
21 12th day of March 2012. And it simply states an Order.
22 And in the order you are discussing at some length
23 Mr. Coughlin's conduct again in the traffic case 11 TR
24 26800 21.
25 A Yes, I di d.
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1 Q And on Page 4 of that order, after some
2 discussion, you write the following -- or I'm asking you
3 if you wrote the following. "Based upon the total
4 circumstances of this case, the in-court performance of
5 the defendant as observed by this court, the written
6 documents faxed to the court for filing by the defendant,
7 the statements and behavior of this defendant and his
8 overall conduct herein, this court finds by clear and
9 convincing evidence that Zachary Barker Coughlin, an
10 attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Nevada,
11 has committed numerous acts of attorney misconduct,
12 including, but not limited to, violating the following
13 rules of professional conduct."
14 Do you remember writing that paragraph?
15 A Yes, I di d. I wr ot e t hat . And agai n, I wr ot e
16 i t al l mysel f and pr ovi ded a copy t o you af t er I had - -
17 Q Do you have any kind of a background --
18 besides being an experienced judge, do you have any kind
19 of background working with people that have mental
20 illness?
21 A Yes, I do. Wel l , of cour se, I ' mt he
22 pr osecut or f or many year s, and came acr oss many peopl e
23 wi t h pr obl ems. But I was t he deput y di r ect or of
24 cor r ect i ons f or t he St at e of Nevada f or seven year s, and
25 dur i ng t hat t i me I educat ed mysel f a gr eat deal on
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1 r ehabi l i t at i on and cor r ect i onal pr ogr ammi ng, subst ance
2 abuse, ment al i l l ness, and t he such, because I had t o set
3 up pr ogr ams about t hose t hi ngs i n t he pr i son syst em. And
4 ul t i mat el y I al so di d a gr eat deal of t r ai ni ng on t hat , on
5 t hose t opi cs. And I super vi sed 25 psychol ogi st s,
6 subst ance abuse counsel or s, soci al wor ker s, and ot her s.
7 I al so cur r ent l y ama muni ci pal cour t j udge.
8 I j ust had my second year anni ver sar y yest er day. And I
9 r un t hr ee speci al t y cour t s, i ncl udi ng one whi ch i s - -
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I bel i eve t hat ' s been 15
11 mi nut es.
12 THE WI TNESS: - - ment al heal t h cour t f or
13 i ndi vi dual s wi t h addi ct i on and co- occur r i ng di sor der s, one
14 t hat i s a dr ug, a DUI cour t , whi ch many peopl e, al most
15 al l , ar e addi ct ed as opposed t o j ust abusi ng, and a ser i al
16 i nebr i at e cour t . So I have t hr ee docket s wi t hi n my
17 speci al t y cour t s.
18 And I ' ve had a l ot of t r ai ni ng over j ust t he
19 l ast t wo year s on t he subj ect , as wel l as i n addi t i on t o
20 havi ng t r ai ni ng at t he Nat i onal J udi ci al Col l ege on
21 phar macol ogy and t hat sor t of t hi ng. And, i n f act , t he
22 conf er ence I j ust st epped out of i s anot her one, a
23 speci al t y cour t conf er ence i n Las Vegas r i ght now wher e
24 t hey ar e goi ng over phar macol ogy and t he ef f ect s of dr ugs
25 and al cohol on di f f er ent par t s of t he br ai n and ment al
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1 i l l ness.
2 BY MR. KI NG:
3 Q Thank you, Judge. The last paragraph on Page
4 3 states as follows. "The conduct of Mr. Coughlin has
5 been inappropriate, bizarre, dishonest, irrational and
6 disruptive to say the least. He has not practiced law" --
7 MR. COUGHLI N: Ar e you r eadi ng t he or der f r om
8 t he 28t h, Pat ?
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Coughl i n.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot seei ng t hi s on t he
11 t hi ng he gave us.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' ve caut i oned
13 you about i nt er r upt i ng i n t he past .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' maski ng f or cl ar i f i cat i on.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You i nt er r upt ed counsel i n
16 t he mi ddl e of a quest i on.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: He di dn' t gi ve me t hat .
18 MR. KI NG: I ' mhandi ng i t t o you r i ght now.
19 MR. COUGHLI N: He di dn' t gi ve me t hat . I s
20 t hi s admi t t ed i nt o evi dence?
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Not yet .
22 BY MR. KI NG:
23 Q -- paragraph 3, and this is partly for the
24 purpose of laying a foundation, did you actually write it?
25 It says, "He has not practiced law in this case in a
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1 manner that demonstrates his competence, professionalism,
2 preparation, consideration for the court, the witnesses or
3 his opposing counsel. He has been very disrespectful to
4 the court."
5 Did you write that?
6 A Yes, I di d wr i t e t hat .
7 Q And then you made a list, you actually went so
8 far as on Page 4 as to be very specific in listing the
9 rules of professional conduct that you were saying he
10 violated?
11 A Yes, I di d.
12 Q You listed 8.4, engaged in dishonesty, fraud,
13 deceit or misrepresentation.
14 Because I'm limited in time, I'm not going to
15 read them all, but I'm going to ask that Exhibit Number 5
16 be admitted.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Obj ect i on, Counsel ?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah. Thi s l ooks t ot al l y
19 di f f er ent t han t he one t hat ' s i n t he f i l e. What ' s goi ng
20 on her e? Why i s t hi s one al l bl ur r y and i l l egi bl e, and
21 t hi s one l i ke pr i st i ne cl ean, Pat ?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s t he obj ect i on,
23 Mr . Coughl i n?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I f t hi s wasn' t pr opounded.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s wasn' t what ?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: Thi s ver si on wasn' t pr opounded
2 ear l i er .
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t was at t ached t o t he
4 compl ai nt .
5 MR. COUGHLI N: Thi s i s cl ear . The pr obl emi s
6 t he one he' s al ways at t ached t o t he compl ai nt i s not
7 cl ear .
8 THE WI TNESS: Mr . Echever r i a, t hat was al so
9 pr ovi ded t o Mr . Coughl i n. At t he t i me t hat or der was
10 ent er ed, I had hi mser ved up i n j ai l when he was bei ng
11 hel d f or cont empt - -
12 MR. COUGHLI N: No, you di dn' t .
13 THE WI TNESS: - - mai l ed t o hi s house as wel l .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: No, she di dn' t .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thanks, J udge. I ' mgoi ng t o
16 admi t Exhi bi t 5. I t was t he or der at t ached t o t he
17 compl ai nt . I t was pr ovi ded as Bat es number s 1804 t hr ough
18 1809 t o t he document s copi ed and pr oduced f or
19 Mr . Coughl i n. So Exhi bi t 5 i s admi t t ed.
20 ( Exhi bi t 5 admi t t ed i nt o evi dence. )
21 BY MR. KI NG:
22 Q Judge Holmes, was it your intention -- you
23 made these findings by clear and convincing evidence,
24 which is the standard of proof necessary for disciplinary
25 proceedings. Was it your intention that this order be
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1 accepted by the panel as proof of his -- as irrefutable
2 proof of his violation of these rules?
3 A Yes, i t was. And I ' mnot i nt endi ng t o
4 subst i t ut e mysel f f or t he panel . I under st and, and di d
5 under st and, t hat i t was t hei r j ob t o concl ude t hat . But I
6 di d want t o t el l t hemt hat i n my exper i ence, and based on
7 my j udi ci al posi t i on, I di d f i nd t hat est abl i shed by t hat
8 par t i cul ar l evel of pr oof . And I do bel i eve t hat i t has
9 t hat , i n my exper i ence wi t h hi m.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s been 15 mi nut es.
11 MR. KI NG: Thank you f or your t i me. I ' mgoi ng
12 t o pass t he wi t ness. I n t hi s case Mr . Coughl i n may
13 cr oss- exami ne you, and t he panel may have some quest i ons.
14 Thank you, your Honor .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you, J udge. I t ' s now
16 11: 04. Mr . Coughl i n, I wi l l gi ve you 18 mi nut es - -
17 MR. COUGHLI N: He had 30.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - t he same amount of t i me
19 t hat t he St at e Bar - -
20 MR. COUGHLI N: He had 30 mi nut es.
21 MR. VELLI S: No, he di dn' t .
22 MR. COUGHLI N: How many mi nut es di d he have?
23 18?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He used 13 mi nut es,
25 Mr . Coughl i n.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: He had 13 mi nut es?
2 MR. J OHNSON: J ohn, I t hi nk you mi sspoke. I
3 t hi nk i t ' s 12: 04.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What di d I say? I t ' s 12: 04.
5 I ' mgoi ng t o gi ve you t he ot her t wo mi nut es t hat t he St at e
6 di d not use. So, Mr . Coughl i n, you wi l l have unt i l 12: 19.
7 MR. COUGHLI N: Thank you, your Honor .
8 CROSS- EXAMI NATI ON
9 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
10 Q Judge Nash Holmes, what did your marshals tell
11 you about a bathroom break?
12 A I ' msor r y. What mar shal s when?
13 Q Well, the ones you reference on the audio from
14 the March 12th hearing?
15 A Wel l , agai n, whi ch - - my mar shal s. Coul d you
16 be mor e speci f i c, pl ease, i n your quest i on?
17 Q How much have they told you about the
18 hearing --
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you i nt er r upt ed
20 t he j udge. She asked you a quest i on. Do you want t o be
21 speci f i c as t o a par t i cul ar conver sat i on?
22 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
23 Q Yeah. There was one bathroom break in the
24 hearing. What were you told during the bathroom break by
25 either a marshal or the city attorney?
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wi t h r espect t o any
2 par t i cul ar i ssue, Mr . Coughl i n?
3 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
4 Q No. Just anything. Anything connected to me?
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s what I ' maski ng. I s
6 i t i nvol vi ng you, si r ?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Al l r i ght .
9 THE WI TNESS: Mr . Coughl i n asked f or a
10 bat hr oombr eak. I or i gi nal l y sai d I woul d not gi ve t he
11 br eak. And t hen I sai d t hat I woul d, but he had t o l eave
12 al l hi s mat er i al s i n t he cour t r oom. And I sai d t hat
13 because I suspect ed t hat he was t ape- r ecor di ng t he cour t
14 pr oceedi ngs wi t hout my per mi ssi on, and wi t hout aski ng
15 per mi ssi on f i r st . Because he' s appar ent l y been known t o
16 do t hat .
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on, hear say. Lack of
18 f oundat i on.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
20 THE WI TNESS: So I r equi r ed one of my mar shal s
21 t o accompany hi mt o t he r est r oom.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: She j ust get s t o say a bunch of
23 hear say?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, she i s
25 r espondi ng t o your quest i on.
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1 Go ahead, J udge.
2 THE WI TNESS: When t he mar shal s came back f r om
3 t he r est r oom, t hey t ol d me t hat Mr . Coughl i n had, i n f act ,
4 been r ecor di ng t he pr oceedi ngs because he had di sassembl ed
5 a devi ce and l ef t par t s of i t i n t he bat hr oom. Or l ef t - -
6 di sassembl ed par t s of i t , and t hen t hey di scover ed par t s
7 of i t .
8 I n any case, when he was t aken i nt o cust ody
9 and hel d i n cont empt of cour t at t he j ai l , he had
10 physi cal l y t wo r ecor di ng devi ces on hi m, a cel l phone - -
11 ei t her t wo cel l phones or a cel l phone and some ot her
12 r ecor di ng devi ce. I assumed t hat was pi eces of whi ch he
13 was messi ng wi t h i n t he bat hr oom.
14 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
15 Q Which marshal told you that?
16 A I ' msor r y? I can' t hear t hat .
17 Q Which marshal --
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you don' t need
19 t o yel l .
20 THE WI TNESS: I t was Mar shal Har l ey t hat t ol d
21 me t hat , J oel Har l ey, H- a- r - l - e- y. He sai d when t hey went
22 i n and checked t he bat hr oomaf t er Mr . Coughl i n l ef t , and
23 he had f ound evi dence t hat he had di sassembl ed some obj ect
24 or somet hi ng i n t her e.
25 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
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1 Q What evidence, and what object?
2 A I j ust descr i bed i t as some sor t of a
3 r ecor di ng devi ce. Whet her i t was a cel l phone and he t ook
4 t he SI M car d out or what ever i t was, I wasn' t sur e. But I
5 had asked you, Mr . Coughl i n, poi nt bl ank i n cour t i f you
6 wer e r ecor di ng, and you t ol d me no. And t hen you asked
7 i mmedi at el y t o go t o t he bat hr oom, and I sai d no. And
8 t hen you begged and squi r med and sai d you had t o r el i eve
9 your sel f , and I had t o l et you go t o t he bat hr oom. And
10 t hen when you di d t hat , you went i nt o t he bat hr oom- -
11 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
12 Q Really?
13 A Took apar t and di sassembl ed a r ecor di ng
14 devi ce.
15 Q Really? Would audio show that, Judge?
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n. I ' ve asked you
17 r epeat edl y t o pl ease not i nt er r upt peopl e.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hought she was done.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t was cl ear she wasn' t when
20 you wer e i nt er r upt i ng her .
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Al l r i ght .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You wi l l cease t hat conduct .
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' ve asked a quest i on of
25 t he j udge. She answer ed i t . Do you have a quest i on?
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1 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
2 Q Judge, was there one bathroom break during the
3 trial?
4 A I ' msor r y. The cr owd has r ecessed her e, and
5 l et me move acr oss t he hal l way, because I can' t hear
6 anyt hi ng r i ght now, t her e' s a bi g cr owd.
7 Q Don't worry. Just my law license, Judge. No
8 biggie.
9 Was there one bathroom break?
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I f or one do
11 not appr eci at e your si de comment s. I t hi nk you shoul d
12 f ocus ser i ousl y on t he i ssues t o be addr essed her e. The
13 j udge si mpl y asked f or accommodat i on so she coul d hear .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I onl y have so much t i me, your
15 Honor .
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I know. Qui t wast i ng i t .
17 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
18 Q Was there one bathroom break during the trial?
19 A Ther e was one bat hr oombr eak.
20 Q Have you reviewed the audio of that trial?
21 A I ' msor r y, I can' t hear you agai n. Say i t
22 agai n.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you r evi ew t he audi o of
24 t he t r i al ?
25 THE WI TNESS: I have not r evi ewed t hem
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1 r ecent l y, no. I di d at t he t i me. I di d when I ent er ed my
2 cont empt or der and sent my package t o t he di sci pl i ne
3 boar d.
4 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
5 Q Why does the audio of the trial indicate that
6 you did not ask any questions about recording until after
7 the one bathroom break?
8 A I ' mnot sur e t hat ' s t he case. I don' t know.
9 Q That is the case.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n - -
11 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
12 Q Yet you testified today that Mr. Coughlin
13 asked to use the bathroom right after I asked him about
14 recording. How do you explain that?
15 A I don' t know t he sequence of event s. I don' t
16 r ecal l - -
17 Q You just said you --
18 A I l i st ened t o t he audi o at t he t i me when
19 t hi ngs happened. And when you came back f r omt he
20 bat hr oom, ei t her way I det er mi ned f r om- - I concl uded t hat
21 you wer e most l i kel y r ecor di ng wi t hout my per mi ssi on.
22 Q Earlier your testimony was that you asked
23 Mr. Coughlin if he was recording, and he got real squirmy
24 and asked to use the bathroom. Is that correct?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q Now are you remixing that testimony?
2 A No.
3 Q You just said, I don't know the sequence of
4 events.
5 A Wel l , I don' t r ecal l t he sequence of event s.
6 I know t hat I asked you i f you wer e r ecor di ng. You deni ed
7 you wer e. I asked you a coupl e t i mes i f you wer e
8 r ecor di ng, i f you had got t en per mi ssi on t o r ecor d, what
9 you wer e doi ng. And at some poi nt i t was det er mi ned t hat
10 you most l i kel y wer e.
11 Q You know there is an audio of these things
12 you're testifying to, right, that we can like compare to
13 what you're saying; right, Judge?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, pl ease exhi bi t
15 a ci vi l i zed t one.
16 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
17 Q You're aware there's an audio?
18 A Yes, t her e' s an audi o. I have not - -
19 Q That we can compare --
20 A - - I ' mgi vi ng you my best r ecol l ect i on at t hi s
21 t i me.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you' r e t r yi ng
23 my pat i ence wi t h your cont i nui ng i nt er r upt i ons. That ' s
24 not evi nci ng t he conduct of a compet ent l awyer . You
25 shoul d wai t unt i l t he wi t ness f i ni shes bef or e i nt er r upt i ng
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1 her .
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead. Ask your next
4 quest i on.
5 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
6 Q So the marshals said Mr. Coughlin left some
7 disassembled part of a recording device in the bathroom,
8 and they retrieved it from there; is that correct?
9 A I don' t r ecal l t he exact wor ds. The
10 i mpr essi on I got f r omwhat t he mar shal sai d i s t hat you
11 had gone i nt o t he bat hr oom, di sassembl ed some sor t of
12 r ecor di ng devi ce, and t hey went i n t he bat hr oomaf t er you
13 and checked t hat and det er mi ned t hat . That ' s my
14 r ecol l ect i on of t he event s.
15 Q Is that murky recollection of yours maybe the
16 reason why the law requires, in a contempt not occurring
17 in the immediate presence of a judge, that somebody
18 actually put their name on an affidavit and sign it?
19 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, as Bar counsel , a
20 member f or Bar Counsel of f i ce, I f i nd - -
21 THE WI TNESS: Mr . Coughl i n, you wer e not f ound
22 i n cont empt on t hat r eason al one. You wer e f ound i n
23 cont empt f or engagi ng i n behavi or of t he same ki nd i t
24 appear s t hat you' r e doi ng now, and much mor e t han t hat .
25 And you wer e f ound i n cont empt f or your ent i r e conduct
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1 t hr oughout t he cour se of t he pr oceedi ngs, i ncl udi ng
2 r epeat edl y aski ng quest i ons I or der ed you not t o ask,
3 del vi ng i nt o ar eas I had r ul ed wer e i nadmi ssi bl e, bei ng
4 di sr espect f ul , maki ng f aces, pr et endi ng l i ke you wer e a
5 mi me, si t t i ng down, sl umpi ng down, st andi ng up, wal ki ng
6 ar ound, and doi ng a number of ot her t hi ngs t hat wer e
7 compl et el y i mpr oper i n t he manner of conduct i ng a t r i al .
8 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
9 Q Is it proper procedure for you to --
10 A - - among one of t he many r eason why I f ound
11 you i n cont empt of cour t , si r .
12 Q Is it proper for you to call something summary
13 criminal contempt when you cite to a civil contempt
14 statute?
15 A I don' t know what i s pr oper i n your book,
16 Mr . Coughl i n. I know t hat t he behavi or t hat I saw, I know
17 t hat I hel d you i n cont empt , I hel d a pr eci se - - you
18 commi t t ed di r ect cont empt i n f r ont of me i n my cour t - -
19 Q Criminal contempt or civil contempt?
20 A - - I hel d you i n cont empt on t he spot , and
21 t hen I went and wr ot e t he or der .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you cont i nue t o
23 i nt er r upt . I ' mget t i ng ver y t i r ed of i t . That ' s i mpr oper
24 behavi or . As you sai d, your l aw l i cense i s at st ake her e.
25 You shoul d exhi bi t behavi or t hat woul d j ust i f y you keepi ng
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1 i t . Have I made mysel f cl ear ?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you.
4 Go ahead, J udge. Had you f i ni shed?
5 THE WI TNESS: I f i ni shed wi t h t hat answer ,
6 yes.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead, Mr . Coughl i n.
8 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
9 Q Judge, did your order characterize it as
10 misdemeanor criminal contempt?
11 A I do not have my or der i n f r ont of me, so you
12 can consul t my or der . I bel i eve i t was mi sdemeanor
13 cont empt . I bel i eve i t was cr i mi nal , di r ect cr i mi nal
14 cont empt .
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' l l not e on Page 3 at l i ne 14
16 i t says, Mi sdemeanor of cr i mi nal cont empt , a vi ol at i on of
17 NRS 22. 010.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch or der ar e you r ef er r i ng
19 t o, Mr . Coughl i n?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Febr uar y 28t h or der . Page 3,
21 l i ne 14.
22 MR. KI NG: I t hi nk i t ' s Exhi bi t No. 4.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay.
24 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
25 Q Judge, is NRS 22.010 a civil contempt statute?
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1 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on.
2 THE WI TNESS: Mr . Coughl i n, you can consul t
3 t he st at ut es. I don' t have my books r i ght i n f r ont of me.
4 NRS i dent i f i es i n Chapt er 22 cont empt . And t he Reno
5 Muni ci pal Code has sect i ons r el at i ng t hat or i ncor por at i ng
6 t hose sect i ons i nt o t he Reno Muni ci pal Code.
7 Ei t her way, what you di d i n f r ont of me was
8 di r ect cont empt , and I hel d you i n di r ect cont empt , and
9 you went t o j ai l f or f i ve days because of i t .
10 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
11 Q Is it permissible for a judge to call a civil
12 contempt statute a criminal contempt statute, vis-a-vis --
13 this is 22.010, a civil contempt statute. And the law in
14 Nevada does have NRS 199 -- I believe it's 240 -- which is
15 the criminal contempt statute. Is it permissible for you
16 to cite to a -- easier to meet civil contempt statute, and
17 then recharacterize it as criminal contempt?
18 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on.
19 THE WI TNESS: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mnot goi ng t o
20 ar gue t he l aw wi t h you. You have t he st at ut es t her e. You
21 can consul t t hemyour sel f .
22 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
23 Q On Page 3 at line 4, sub .9 --
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch exhi bi t , si r ?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Exhi bi t 4, your Honor .
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2 Q You wrote, defendant lying to the court in
3 response to direct questions posed by the court.
4 What were the lies in your vague order that
5 lacks any specificity to support a summary contempt
6 finding, what were those lies that you failed to elucidate
7 in your order?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t hat quest i on
9 i s ar gument at i ve. Do you want t o r ephr ase i t ?
10 MR. COUGHLI N: Sur e.
11 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
12 Q What were you referring to when you wrote,
13 "Defendant lying to the court in response to direct
14 questions"?
15 A Wel l , i t woul d be expl ai ned i n t he or der
16 t her e. I don' t r emember ever yt hi ng at t hi s t i me because I
17 don' t have i t i n f r ont of me. But I do bel i eve t hat you
18 l i ed about or mi sr epr esent ed t hat you wer e not r ecor di ng,
19 because I bel i eve you pr obabl y wer e. I don' t know. I
20 bel i eve you pr obabl y wer e.
21 At t he same t i me t her e wer e t hi ngs t hat you
22 and t he pr osecut or wer e ar gui ng about wi t h r egar d t o
23 di scover y. And she di sagr eed wi t h you and sai d you wer e
24 l yi ng t o her about t hat . And t her e wer e ot her i t ems t hat
25 you went back and f or t h about t hat appear ed t o me t hat you
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1 wer e not t ot al l y honest about .
2 Q So when --
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. Mr . Coughl i n, l et
4 t he r ecor d r ef l ect t hat i t ' s 12: 18. I ' l l af f or d you t wo
5 mor e mi nut es.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Thank you, si r .
7 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
8 Q When you say, alternately you were probably
9 lying. And then you put in your order, "I find by clear
10 and convincing evidence that he lied," is that ambiguous
11 there? How do you reconcile that?
12 A How do I r econci l e what ?
13 Q The fact that your order says you find by
14 clear and convincing evidence?
15 A Because t hat ' s what I wr ot e. I di d f i nd by
16 cl ear and convi nci ng evi dence. I f ound by absol ut el y
17 convi nci ng evi dence t hat you wer e behavi ng i mpr oper l y i n
18 cour t , as you ar e now, appar ent l y.
19 Q You're saying you found by clear and
20 convincing evidence that a licensed attorney lied to the
21 court. And then you characterize that as probably, well,
22 I kind of think he was. I think he was, because I know
23 some unattributed hearsay that I'm going to base it on.
24 I'm going to get the order I think is wrong about the
25 bathroom break. I'm not going to have a marshal sign an
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1 affidavit. Then I'm going to remix a criminal contempt
2 statute with a summary contempt statute and pick and
3 choose and make it as retaliatory as I possibly can.
4 Isn't that a fair characterization of your approach as a
5 judge?
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: J udge, you don' t need t o
7 answer t hat quest i on. That was way out of l i ne, and
8 ext r emel y ar gument at i ve.
9 THE WI TNESS: Thank you.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you want t o ask a
11 l egi t i mat e quest i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
12 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
13 Q What basis do you have to assert in your order
14 that defendant lying to the court in response to direct
15 questions posed by the court with regard to his recording
16 the proceedings?
17 A The opi ni on i s sel f - expl anat or y. I do not
18 have i t i n f r ont of me, Mr . Coughl i n. You have access t o
19 t he t apes and t he opi ni on. And I st and by what I wr ot e,
20 and I st and by t he pr oceedi ngs t hat day.
21 Q But it's kind of hard to pick inconsistencies
22 in your testimony today and those materials when you
23 refuse to testify now, isn't it?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar gument at i ve, Mr . Coughl i n.
25 You ar e not assi st i ng your sel f her e.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' maski ng her . I t ' s a
2 quest i on.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I s t hat not t r ue t hat she i s
5 subver t i ng t he l egal pr ocess by r ef usi ng t o t est i f y
6 i nst ead of sayi ng, wel l , r ead t he or der and r ead - - l i st en
7 t o t he r ecor di ng, and t her ef or e she i s not subj ect i ng
8 her sel f t o put t i ng f or t h any f ur t her i nconsi st enci es.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t he t i me f or
10 ar gument i s l at er , not now.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. So I ' mobj ect i ng. I t ' s
12 nonr esponsi ve.
13 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
14 Q What was your basis --
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That obj ect i on i s over r ul ed.
16 Now i t ' s 12: 20. I f you have anyt hi ng f ur t her of
17 si gni f i cance t hat ' s r el evant t o t he i ssues i n t hi s case,
18 pl ease ask t hat quest i on, I ' l l al l ow you one mor e.
19 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
20 Q What was communicated to you during the
21 bathroom break, and by whom?
22 MR. KI NG: Asked and answer ed.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hi nk you' ve asked t hat .
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t hi nk she answer ed i t .
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: She di d. Do you have anot her
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1 quest i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Sur e.
3 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
4 Q Did you or anyone with the Reno Municipal
5 Court transmit or otherwise deliver Judge Linda Gardner's
6 order for sanctions to the State Bar of Nevada?
7 A I ' msor r y. I di dn' t hear al l t hat . Di d I
8 what ? You' l l have t o r epeat t he quest i on.
9 Q Did you or anybody with your court, the Reno
10 Municipal Court, transmit or otherwise deliver Judge Linda
11 Gardner's April 2009 order sanctioning me to the State Bar
12 of Nevada?
13 A I ' msor r y. Del i ver t o whom?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The St at e Bar , J udge.
15 THE WI TNESS: Oh. Af t er - - l et me expl ai n
16 qui ckl y. My t r i al was my f i r st exper i ence i n exposur e t o
17 Mr . Coughl i n. Af t er ever yt hi ng happened, and I hel d hi m
18 i n cont empt , t hen J udge Gar dner t ol d me t hat hi s si st er ,
19 J udge Gar dner , has a l i f e exper i ence wi t h Mr . Coughl i n,
20 and he pr ovi ded me a copy of her opi ni on f r oma coupl e
21 year s ear l i er . And t hat may have been i n t he package I
22 f or war ded t o t he cour t . I f or war ded ever yt hi ng I coul d
23 possi bl y i ncl ude t hat woul d show Mr . Coughl i n' s abi l i t y t o
24 pr act i ce l aw. I ncl udi ng Mr . Coughl i n' s 200- page mot i on
25 t hat he f axed t o t he cour t .
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you, J udge. I t ' s now
2 12: 22, and we' l l excuse you. And we appr eci at e you t aki ng
3 t he t i me - -
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I ask one mor e quest i on
5 about t he pendi ng - -
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n - -
7 MR. COUGHLI N: - - compet ency eval uat i on or - -
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: - - wi t h t he t r i al ? I t ' s a good
10 quest i on.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s an i nt er r upt i ve
12 quest i on, and i t ' s i mpr oper conduct .
13 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e not goi ng t o l et her
14 answer t hat , huh? You ar e not goi ng t o make her answer
15 t hat ?
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I cont i nue t o
17 t al k whi l e you' r e t r yi ng t o i nt er r upt .
18 J udge, t hank you f or your t est i mony.
19 MR. COUGHLI N: She hel d a t r i al wi t h a pendi ng
20 compet ency eval uat i on i n vi ol at i on of l aw.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Qui t i nt er r upt i ng,
22 Mr . Coughl i n.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I j ust got i t on t he r ecor d.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you, J udge. We
25 appr eci at e you t aki ng your t i me i nt o t he l unch hour .
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1 THE WI TNESS: Thank you. I ' l l hang up now.
2 MR. KI NG: Thank you, J udge.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s now 12: 23. Mr . Ki ng, do
4 you have addi t i onal wi t nesses?
5 MR. KI NG: I have - - my under st andi ng i s I ' l l
6 have t wo addi t i onal wi t nesses. I ' mnot cer t ai n t hat I
7 wi l l be abl e t o r each t hem, but J udge Howar d and J udge
8 El l i ot t .
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' d l i ke t o cal l J udge Nash
10 Hol mes i n my case i n chi ef and ask her why she per si st s i n
11 hol di ng t r i al i f she was awar e of a pendi ng compet ency
12 or der .
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You had t he oppor t uni t y t o
14 ask her t hose quest i ons.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: No, I di dn' t . You j ust r ef used
16 i t t o me.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No, I gave you - -
18 MR. COUGHLI N: You di d anot her basi s f or an
19 i mpar t i al i t y f i ndi ng.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I have t hi s
21 t er r i bl e habi t of cont i nual l y t al ki ng whi l e you' r e t r yi ng
22 t o - -
23 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e not l et t i ng me ask any
24 quest i on t hat woul d t end t o i mpl i cat e i mpr opr i et y on t he
25 par t of a j udge.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You can char act er i ze t he
2 r ul i ngs as you wi sh. I have made t he r ul i ngs.
3 And you i nt end t o cal l - - you have t wo mor e
4 wi t nesses?
5 MR. KI NG: I ' mnot sur e whet her or not I wi l l
6 be abl e t o r each t hem. I f I can, i t mi ght be good, but
7 I ' l l t ake a ver y shor t t i me wi t h t hem. I t may be t hat t he
8 r ecor ds, whi ch I do have cer t i f i ed copi es of , speak f or
9 t hemsel ves, and I ' l l i nt r oduce t hemas t he document s
10 bef or e I cl ose my case.
11 I di d want t o cal l Mr . Coughl i n, but depends
12 on i f I can r each t hese peopl e. I want t o make t he r ecor d
13 compl et e f or Mr . Coughl i n' s sake.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he panel ' s
15 pr ef er ence? Do you want 45 mi nut es? An hour f or a l unch
16 br eak?
17 MR. KI NG: We do have l unch f or you her e,
18 i ncl udi ng you, Mr . Coughl i n, and our good secur i t y, and
19 t he cour t r epor t er .
20 MR. VELLI S: As shor t as possi bl e.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s come back at 1: 00
22 o' cl ock, st r ai ght up on t he St at e Bar cl ock.
23 ( Recess t aken at 12: 25 P. M. , t o
24 r et ur n at 1: 00 p. m. )
25 - oOo-
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5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Back on t he r ecor d. I t ' s now
6 1: 03. We' r e r esumi ng t he hear i ng en r e Mr . Coughl i n.
7 Mr . Ki ng?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve I was ser ved a
9 subpoena.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' r e her e, si r . Do you
11 want do be swor n i n, pl ease.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Doesn' t Spi vack say t hat I have
13 a choi ce i n t hat mat t er ?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. Woul d you go ahead and
15 swear t he wi t ness.
16 Ar e you r ef usi ng t o t est i f y?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' maski ng you.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Aski ng me what ?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: You j ust t ol d me no, Spi vack
20 doesn' t - -
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Tel l me what Spi vack says.
22 I ' mnot f ami l i ar wi t h i t .
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t makes t he Fi f t h
24 Amendment appl i cabl e t o Bar mat t er s.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I f t hat ' s so, do you exer ci se
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1 t hat Fi f t h Amendment pr i vi l ege?
2 MR. KI NG: Whi l e he' s t hi nki ng, I ' mgoi ng t o
3 ask t hat t hi s be mar ked as Exhi bi t 6.
4 ( Exhi bi t 6 mar ked. )
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n i s debat i ng, I
6 t hi nk, whet her or not t o cl ai mt he Fi f t h Amendment .
7 MR. COUGHLI N: What I want t o f i gur e out i s,
8 you ar e i nt ent i n get t i ng t hi s done t oday.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The panel i s, si r .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I was t ol d you' r e t he onl y one
11 wi t h any aut hor i t y t o make any deci si ons, but - - Mr . Ki ng,
12 he sai d you wer e.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t know what you wer e
14 t ol d. But t he panel - -
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I was t ol d l ot s of st uf f by
16 Mr . Ki ng.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s addr ess t he i ssue t hat
18 you r ai sed. Do you i nt end t o asser t your Fi f t h Amendment
19 pr i vi l ege?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: What we wer e sayi ng about
21 you' r e t he onl y one wi t h aut hor i t y t o make any deci si ons.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' ve asked a pr et t y di r ect
23 quest i on, I t hi nk. Mr . Ki ng has i ndi cat ed an i nt ent t o
24 cal l you as a wi t ness.
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. Now I r emember what . My
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1 quest i on was, i t ' s over , hal f t he day i s over . Do I get
2 l i ke t en mi nut es at t he end t o put on my case i n chi ef ?
3 MR. KI NG: No, I ' l l be done qui t e qui ckl y,
4 Mr . Coughl i n.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' l l have pr obabl y most of
6 t he af t er noon. Let ' s addr ess t he i ssue so we can move on
7 and gi ve you as much t i me as you need.
8 Mr . Ki ng has i ndi cat ed an i nt ent t o cal l you
9 as a wi t ness. You' ve r ai sed a case cal l ed Spi vack whi ch
10 you t el l me al l ows you t o exer ci se your Fi f t h Amendment
11 pr i vi l ege, and I ' maski ng you i f you i nt end t o do so.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mal so wonder i ng, doesn' t he
13 have t o subpoena me t o cal l me as a wi t ness?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Not i n my vi ew. As l ong as
15 you' r e her e, you' r e a par t y.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: We' r e back on t he r ecor d?
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes. We have been on t he
18 r ecor d.
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Do any of t he r ul es t hat
20 pr ovi de pr ocedur al pr ot ect i ons, ar e any of t hose i n ef f ect
21 her e?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s pr oceedi ng, as I r ead
23 t he supr eme cour t r ul es, i s gover ned by t he Nevada Rul es
24 of Ci vi l Pr ocedur e t o t he ext ent t hat t hey ar e not
25 i nconsi st ent wi t h t he speci f i c r ul es i n t he supr eme cour t
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1 r ul es. Let ' s f ocus on t he i ssue.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: - - need t o make a mot i on t o
3 have t he wi t nesses appear t el ephoni cal l y i f t hey ar en' t
4 subpoenaed?
5 MR. KI NG: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mcal l i ng you as a
6 wi t ness. And I i nt end t o cal l you as a wi t ness. And you
7 need t o i ndi cat e whet her or not - -
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Change t he subj ect . Doesn' t he
9 need t o - -
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mf ocusi ng on
11 a ver y speci f i c i ssue her e. Mr . Ki ng has i ndi cat ed - -
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Appear i ng t el ephoni cal l y.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I kept t al ki ng
14 whi l e you' r e i nt er r upt i ng.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I was t al ki ng whi l e you
16 i nt er r upt ed me. I ' msor r y. I keep t al ki ng whi l e you' r e
17 t al ki ng.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s t r ue. And you do t hat
19 r epeat edl y.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: I di dn' t under st and t hat .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e f ocused on a ver y
22 speci f i c quest i on her e. Mr . Ki ng has desi r ed t o cal l you.
23 You have r ai sed an i ssue i n a case you say i s Spi vack.
24 I ' mt aki ng you at your wor d t hat t hat i nvol ves your r i ght
25 t o asser t t he Fi f t h Amendment pr i vi l ege i n t hi s ki nd of
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1 pr oceedi ng. I ' mgoi ng t o l et you have t hat .
2 So my quest i on i s: Ar e you asser t i ng your
3 Fi f t h Amendment r i ght ?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: The t hi ng i s, anyt hi ng t hat
5 woul d t end t o r ebut t he i nf er ence of gui l t , you al ways
6 r ul e i t ' s not r el evant . So I ' mwonder i ng what ' s t he poi nt
7 of cal l i ng me t hen?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We won' t know t hat unt i l t he
9 quest i ons ar e posed. Can you f ocus f or me, si r , on t he
10 pr eci se i ssue t hat we' r e f aci ng r i ght now?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: Whi ch i s Pat Ki ng want s t o cal l
12 me?
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Cor r ect . You have r ai sed t he
14 case cal l ed Spi vack - -
15 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - whi ch you cl ai mal l ows - -
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Go ahead. Fi r e away, Pat .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Woul d you swear t he wi t ness
19 i n, pl ease.
20 ( The oat h was par t i al l y admi ni st er ed t o t he
21 wi t ness. )
22 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o be swor n i n t he
23 ot her r oom, and cal l i n.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You woul d l i ke t o do what ?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o cal l i n and do
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1 my swear i ng i n on t he phone l i ke J udge Hol mes di d.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' r e her e, si r . Ar e you
3 goi ng t o be admi ni st er ed t he oat h or not ?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
5 ZACHARY COUGHLI N
6 havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, t est i f i ed as f ol l ows:
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng.
8 MR. KI NG: Thank you ver y much.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The t i me i s now 12: 08 - - I ' m
10 sor r y. The t i me i s 1: 08, we' l l go t o 1: 23.
11 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
12 BY MR. KI NG:
13 Q Mr. Coughlin, I'm handing you what's been
14 identified as Exhibit No. 6. Would you please tell me if
15 you received that letter from me?
16 A I s t hi s t he l et t er i n i t s ent i r et y?
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The quest i on i s: Di d you
18 r ecei ve t hat f r omMr . Ki ng?
19 THE WI TNESS: Thi s l et t er , he sai d?
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t know what i t i s. Al l
21 I know i s i t ' s Exhi bi t 6, and t he quest i on i s, di d you
22 r ecei ve Exhi bi t 6 f r omMr . Ki ng?
23 THE WI TNESS: No, t hat wasn' t t he quest i on.
24 He sai d di d you r ecei ve t hi s l et t er . And I need t o
25 know - -
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1 BY MR. KI NG:
2 Q The next question may be about attachments.
3 But the question is: Did you get this letter?
4 A I need t o know what i s ent ai l ed i n t he t er m" a
5 l et t er . "
6 Q This document that I handed you. Did you
7 receive this document either alone or as part of a
8 package? Did you receive this document Bates stamped
9 02983?
10 A Wi t hout t he Bat es st amp?
11 Q I believe it did not have the Bates stamp when
12 it was sent to you.
13 A Yes. I t hi nk so. I ' mnot sur e. I t hi nk I
14 r ecei ved somet hi ng l onger . Maybe t hat ' s t he at t achment s
15 you' r e r ef er r i ng t o.
16 Q So is that a yes?
17 A Act ual l y, I mi ght have ul t i mat el y r ecei ved
18 t hi s. But I r ecal l t her e bei ng an i ssue. I was a vi ct i m
19 of domest i c vi ol ence dur i ng t hi s t i me, and my mai l was
20 bei ng - - t her e was some i ssues wi t h i t . So I t hi nk
21 ul t i mat el y I di d r ecei ve t hi s, Mr . Ki ng. But maybe t hi s
22 i sn' t goi ng t o your quest i on. You di dn' t ask me when. So
23 yeah, I t hi nk I r ecei ved t hi s one.
24 MR. KI NG: I woul d ask t hat Exhi bi t No. 6 be
25 admi t t ed as evi dence.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s i dent i f i ed as, appear s
2 t o be a l et t er sent by t he St at e Bar of Nevada dat ed
3 Febr uar y 14t h, 2012, t o Mr . Coughl i n at an addr ess of 1422
4 East Ni nt h St r eet , Reno, Nevada 89512, and al so appear s t o
5 bear a Bat es st amp 02983.
6 ( Exhi bi t 6 admi t t ed. )
7 ( Exhi bi t 7 mar ked. )
8 BY MR. KI NG:
9 Q Mr. Coughlin, I'm handing you what purports to
10 be a letter on your letterhead marked as Exhibit 7. Could
11 you tell me if you recognize that letter.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y. Can I know t he
13 cour t r epor t er ' s name?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We have a quest i on pendi ng,
15 and I t hi nk i t ' s, di d you r ecei ve Exhi bi t 7?
16 MR. KI NG: Cor r ect .
17 MR. COUGHLI N: May I j ust cl ar i f y? I s t hi s
18 PamLongoni , t he cour t r epor t er t oday.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y? I di dn' t hear
20 t hat .
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I s t he cour t r epor t er t oday
22 named PamLongoni ?
23 MR. KI NG: No.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No.
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y. I apol ogi ze.
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1 For get I asked.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: A quest i on i s pendi ng,
3 Mr . Coughl i n.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y, your Honor
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you r ecei ve Exhi bi t 7?
6 THE WI TNESS: Di d I mai l t hi s? I s t hi s my
7 l et t er ?
8 BY MR. KI NG:
9 Q Yes. Do you recognize Exhibit 7?
10 A On f i r st bl ush i t l ooks l i ke a l et t er t hat I
11 ei t her f axed or mai l ed t o you, yes.
12 Q Was this letter -- it appears to be dated
13 March 9th, 2012. Is that your letter in response to the
14 letter I've just had admitted that's dated February 14th?
15 A I bel i eve so.
16 MR. KI NG: I woul d ask t hat Exhi bi t No. 7 be
17 admi t t ed.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any obj ect i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: On r el evance.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Rel evance.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Can you el abor at e?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Wer e you aski ng me t o
24 el abor at e, si r ?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes, si r .
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y, si r , I t hought you
2 wer e aski ng, you wer e pr ompt i ng Mr . Ki ng.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' maski ng you t o el abor at e
4 on your r el evance obj ect i on.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I n t er ms of why I f eel i t mi ght
6 not be r el evant ?
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That woul d be a good
8 concl usi on.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I t al ways st r i kes me as t hough
10 t he par t y seeki ng t o have i t admi t t ed bear s t he bur den of
11 expl ai ni ng why i t ' s r el evant .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot under st andi ng your - -
13 I ' maski ng you t o el abor at e on why you bel i eve t hi s t o be
14 i r r el evant t o t hese pr oceedi ngs.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk t hat ' s i nt er est i ng,
16 because i sn' t i t usual l y t he ot her way ar ound, he needs t o
17 pr ovi de an of f er of pr oof how i t ' s r el evant ?
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He pr of f er ed t he exhi bi t .
19 You obj ect ed on r el evance. I ' maski ng you t o el abor at e,
20 because I ' mnot sur e I under st and why you bel i eve i t ' s not
21 r el evant .
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And I ' mof f er i ng you t he
24 oppor t uni t y t o expl ai n t hat .
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know t hat i t bear s on
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1 any mat er i al f act s at i ssue.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng f ur t her ?
3 MR. COUGHLI N: No, si r .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng?
5 MR. KI NG: I woul d suggest t hat f or t he
6 cl ar i t y of t he r ecor d, t he Febr uar y 14t h l et t er i s t he one
7 conveyi ng t he gr i evance by Mr . Hi l l and t he r esponse. And
8 I asked hi mt o r espond wi t hi n t en days of hi s r ecei pt of
9 t hi s l et t er .
10 And t he f i r st r esponse t hat we r ecei ved i s a
11 l et t er dat ed Mar ch 9t h, 2012. And t hat ' s f ur t her
12 suppor t ed by t he f act t hat Mr . Coughl i n st at es at t he
13 begi nni ng of t he l et t er t hat , " I onl y j ust now r ecei ved
14 t he l et t er dat ed Febr uar y 14t h, " t he exhi bi t pr evi ous.
15 And t hen i n t hi s he' s aski ng f or addi t i onal t i me t o
16 r espond.
17 But my quest i on i s - - so I ' maski ng t hat t hat
18 l et t er be admi t t ed. I bel i eve i t ' s r el evant t o show hi s
19 r esponse t o t he St at e Bar ' s gr i evance and our
20 i nvest i gat i on.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: As t o t he degr ee of
22 cooper at i on wi t h t he St at e Bar i n t er ms of t he
23 i nvest i gat i on?
24 MR. KI NG: I ' ve al l eged i n t he compl ai nt t hat
25 he f ai l ed t o cooper at e wi t h t he St at e Bar ' s i nvest i gat i on.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 7 wi l l be admi t t ed.
2 ( Exhi bi t 7 admi t t ed i nt o evi dence. )
3 BY MR. KI NG:
4 Q Mr. Coughlin, in this letter you're explaining
5 that you only just received the letter of February 14th.
6 And then you go on to explain some hardships, none of
7 which had to do with the arrest or anything or your
8 eviction, it appears.
9 A No. That evi ct i on, t hat ' s what you guys don' t
10 under st and, t he way you' r e sanct i oni ng. These evi ct i ons
11 have a ver y human cost . What you ar e doi ng i s awf ul t o
12 peopl e, Pat . You' r e r ui ni ng l i ves.
13 Q My question is: Did you send a subsequent
14 letter or explanation to the State Bar? In other words,
15 you're asking for additional time. Did you ever send --
16 A What you do i s evi l , Pat .
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n.
18 THE WI TNESS: What you do i s evi l .
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I have
20 caut i oned you about i nt er r upt i ng on numer ous occasi ons.
21 But appar ent l y a pat t er n of behavi or has been t he subj ect
22 of at l east t hr ee cour t or der s t hat we have seen so f ar .
23 And I woul d ask you t o, i n your best i nt er est s, t o at t empt
24 t o r esi st your sel f , al l ow t he quest i on t o be compl et ed,
25 and t hen make what ever obj ect i on you wi sh.
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1 The quest i on di r ect l y t o you, and i f i t ' s not
2 di r ect enough, l et me ask i t .
3 Di d you ever speci f i cal l y r espond t o t he
4 l et t er of Febr uar y 14t h, 2012, Exhi bi t 6?
5 THE WI TNESS: I r esponded t o i t .
6 Speci f i cal l y. I ' mnot sur e exact l y what t hat means. I
7 bel i eve I cooper at ed wi t h Bar counsel . I don' t have a
8 t housand pages of st uf f . Vi deos. Audi o.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The quest i on i s: On
10 Febr uar y 14t h you wer e sent subst ant i al , appar ent l y,
11 cor r espondence f r omRi char d Hi l l al l egi ng pr of essi onal
12 mi sconduct . You wer e asked t o make a speci f i c r esponse
13 wi t hi n t en days. I t appear s t hat you di d not do so,
14 unl ess you have some evi dence t o t he cont r ar y - -
15 THE WI TNESS: I di dn' t get t hi s l et t er .
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I cont i nue t o
17 t al k whi l e you' r e t r yi ng t o i nt er r upt .
18 My quest i on i s: Di d you ever r espond
19 speci f i cal l y, pr i or t o t he i nst i t ut i on of t he compl ai nt ,
20 t o Mr . Hi l l ' s comment s and r epor t i ng t o t he St at e Bar ?
21 Di d you ever addr ess t hose i ssues r ai sed by Mr . Hi l l pr i or
22 t o t he f i l i ng of t he compl ai nt ?
23 THE WI TNESS: Maybe i t woul d hel p i f I had t he
24 Mr . Hi l l at t achment . I bel i eve I di d.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: When di d you do t hat ?
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1 THE WI TNESS: Ther e' s a mul t i t ude of i nst ances
2 wher e I wr ot e or r esponded or communi cat ed wi t h Mr . Ki ng.
3 ( Exhi bi t 8 mar ked. )
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: When was t he f i r st t i me?
5 THE WI TNESS: Wel l , pr obabl y t hi s t i me i n
6 aski ng f or mor e t i me, because I di dn' t get t hi s l et t er
7 ver y soon af t er i t was sent . I r ent ed a r oomof f
8 Cr ai gsl i st . And t her e was some i l l wi l l t hat bui l t up,
9 t he peopl e I r ent ed i t f r om. And I di dn' t get t hi s
10 l et t er - - basi cal l y I t hi nk I got i t t hi s day, and I t hr ew
11 t hi s t oget her .
12 I was obvi ousl y ver y upset t o see t hat t he
13 St at e Bar had want ed t o hear f r omme, and gi ven me t en
14 days. I t hi nk, obvi ousl y, i t had al r eady passed by t hi s
15 poi nt . So r i ght when I got t hat l et t er - - and I t hi nk i f
16 I had been not i ced on t hi s, I woul d have gi ven you t he
17 envel ope t hat shows t hat t her e was some - - l i ke t he post
18 of f i ce woul dn' t l et me - - I f or get exact l y what happened.
19 But I t hi nk I gave Pat t hi s st uf f - -
20 MR. KI NG: Wi t h t he chai r ' s per mi ssi on, I ' l l
21 move on.
22 THE WI TNESS: - - l egi t i mat e r easons why I
23 di dn' t get t hi s t hat evi nce a l ack of cul pabi l i t y on my
24 par t . But t hat ' s consi st ent wi t h what Pat does. He put s
25 on st uf f he knows i s basel ess.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Ki ng.
2 Mr . Coughl i n, I don' t bel i eve you answer ed t he
3 quest i on. I t was a di r ect quest i on. When di d you f i r st
4 r espond subst ant i vel y t o Mr . Hi l l ' s compl ai nt s? I have
5 not hear d an answer . The r esponse - -
6 THE WI TNESS: Yeah.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. Your r esponse i s
8 ar gument at i ve.
9 Mr . Ki ng, go ahead wi t h your next quest i on.
10 MR. KI NG: Thank you.
11 THE WI TNESS: I can answer i t .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t her e' s not a
13 quest i on pendi ng.
14 THE WI TNESS: But i t sounded l i ke you sai d I
15 di dn' t answer t he l ast quest i on.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That was my obser vat i on.
17 THE WI TNESS: Then I ' d l i ke t o answer i t
18 f ul l y.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng, ask your next
20 quest i on.
21 THE WI TNESS: No, I mean t he l ast quest i on.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng, ask your next
23 quest i on.
24 THE WI TNESS: I ' l l j ust not e f or t he r ecor d
25 t hat I f eel t hat I was pr event ed f r omr espondi ng t o t he
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1 l ast quest i on.
2 BY MR. KI NG:
3 Q I'm handing you a document that's identified
4 as Exhibit 8.
5 A - - sent Mr . Ki ng a mul t i t ude of e- mai l
6 r esponses.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, agai n you ar e
8 i nt er r upt i ng. I don' t know how many t i mes I have t o
9 caut i on you.
10 BY MR. KI NG:
11 Q Mr. Coughlin, do you recognize this letter?
12 A May I j ust ask cl ar i f i cat i on? Can I r espond
13 t o t hi s?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, i t i s now 1: 23.
15 We have got t en about ei ght or t en subst ant i ve quest i ons.
16 You hesi t at e f or a gr eat deal of t i me. You hesi t at e t o
17 answer t he quest i on di r ect l y. You ask f or cl ar i f i cat i on.
18 I ' mgoi ng t o ext end t he t i me t hat Mr . Ki ng has t o exami ne
19 you, and I ' mgoi ng t o do i t i ndef i ni t el y unt i l I f eel t hat
20 you' r e at t empt i ng t o be r esponsi ve t o t he quest i ons.
21 Now, I ' mgoi ng t o per mi t you t o ask t he
22 quest i on you want ed t o ask. What i s t he quest i on?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , i t j ust sounds l i ke he' s
24 set t i ng me up t o say I di dn' t r espond t o t hi s. And I
25 woul d l i ke t he oppor t uni t y t o i l l ust r at e why I t hi nk I di d
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1 r espond and at t empt t o cooper at e wi t h Bar counsel . And,
2 i n f act , I t ook a gr eat deal of t i me and ef f or t t o do so.
3 So i t seemed l i ke we wer e gr ant i ng summar y j udgment s t o
4 t he ext ent t hat , oh, he di dn' t r epl y t o t hi s l et t er , whi ch
5 not hi ng coul d be f ur t her f r omt he case.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I asked you t o expl ai n t o us
7 when you di d r espond. The best you coul d t el l me was you
8 t hought you di d so on numer ous occasi ons.
9 I n any event , t her e i s a quest i on pendi ng. Go
10 ahead and r epeat i t .
11 MR. KI NG: Thank you.
12 BY MR. KI NG:
13 Q Do you recognize that letter that's been
14 identified as Exhibit 8 that purports to be written to
15 Mr. David Clark, Office of Bar Counsel, from Judge Dorothy
16 Nash Holmes?
17 A I t i s t he one t hat has a r ecei ved Mar ch 14t h
18 dat e on i t ?
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s t he one t hat ' s mar ked
20 Exhi bi t 8.
21 BY MR. KI NG:
22 Q The one I just handed you. Did you see that
23 letter?
24 A I don' t see i t mar ked Exhi bi t 8. I t ' s not
25 mar ked.
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1 Q It's marked up here, Mr. Coughlin.
2 A That ' s why I was aski ng f or cl ar i f i cat i on.
3 Mar ch 14t h.
4 Q The question is: Do you recognize that
5 letter?
6 A Yes, si r .
7 Q And --
8 A Thi s i s t he l et t er wher e she al l eges a
9 compet ency i ssue, and t hen goes on t o say, but I ' mst i l l
10 t r yi ng t o hol d a t r i al , I ' mt r yi ng t o get t hi s t r i al set
11 r i ght away, i n vi ol at i on of NRS 178. 405 whi ch st at es you
12 st ay pr oceedi ngs when you f eel a def endant has a
13 compet ency i ssue. You don' t pl unge r i ght ahead. That
14 l et t er , yeah, I r ecogni ze i t .
15 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o ask t hat Exhi bi t No. 8
16 be admi t t ed. Thi s i s t he l et t er t hat J udge Hol mes sent t o
17 t he Of f i ce of Bar Counsel t hat she t est i f i ed about dur i ng
18 her t est i mony.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any obj ect i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t hi nk so. Wel l ,
21 r el evancy. And I don' t bel i eve t hi s i s pl ed i n t he
22 compl ai nt .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed.
24 ( Exhi bi t 8 admi t t ed. )
25 BY MR. KI NG:
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1 Q Mr. Coughlin, you received that because Bar
2 counsel forwarded it to you; is that correct?
3 A I don' t r emember how I r ecei ved t hi s. I
4 i magi ne i t woul d - - I don' t t hi nk a st r anger sent i t t o
5 me. I don' t know.
6 Q Did you respond to the allegations to Bar
7 counsel, the allegations made in the letter by Judge
8 Holmes, and the accompanying documents; did you respond to
9 that investigation?
10 A Act ual l y, I ' mt r yi ng t o r emember - - di d I get
11 t hi s l et t er at t ached t o l i ke an SCR 117 pet i t i on? Can you
12 hel p me out ? Di d I get i t soon af t er - - I t hi nk you wer e
13 ki nd of coy about t hi s, act ual l y, Pat . Ri ght ? You ki nd
14 of - - you wer e ki nd of coy about havi ng i t . You di dn' t
15 j ust get t hi s l et t er , and t hen I don' t t hi nk you mai l ed i t
16 t o me on Mar ch 14t h.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t he quest i on i s
18 di d you r epl y t o i t ?
19 THE WI TNESS: I don' t know - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. The quest i on i s:
21 Was i t f or war ded t o you?
22 THE WI TNESS: That ' s what I was expoundi ng
23 upon. I ' mt r yi ng t o r emember when di d I f i r st get t hi s
24 l et t er . Because t hi s i s l i ke a gut punch i f you' ve
25 devot ed your l i f e t o becomi ng an at t or ney.
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1 And, i n f act , I di dn' t get her Mar ch 28t h
2 l et t er - - I mean her Mar ch 28t h or der t hat was ent er ed. I
3 di dn' t even get t hat unt i l I saw i t at t ached t o an SCR 117
4 di sabi l i t y pet i t i on i n case number 60975. I guess I ki nd
5 of f i gur ed she j ust wasn' t goi ng t o make an or der , you
6 know. And she mai l ed t hi s one, t he one f or Febr uar y 28t h,
7 she mai l ed i t t o t he ol d Ri ver Rock addr ess wher e I was
8 evi ct ed f r om, despi t e t he f act i t appear ed, at l east a
9 coupl e ot her depar t ment s i n her cour t had a mor e r ecent
10 addr ess f or me.
11 And t hen I have - - i f I had been not i ced on
12 t hi s - - I have a l ot of t hese l et t er s. I met i cul ousl y
13 kept t he envel opes. I kept t he change of addr esses. I
14 t hi nk I mi ght have sent Pat t hese wi t h t he yel l ow - - I had
15 a l ot of t he yel l ow st i cker s on my l et t er s, you know,
16 wher e t hey wer e l i ke - - and t he cour t , t he cour t had t hese
17 t oo. The muni cour t .
18 And I had a bi g or deal wi t h t he post of f i ce
19 i nci dent t o t hey di dn' t want t o gi ve me a key t o t he
20 mai l box. Thi s evi ct i on, t he evi l wor k t hat you
21 sanct i oned, Pat , t hat I ment i oned ear l i er , i t has a
22 f al l out necessar i l y. I n my opi ni on - -
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, excuse me. Do
24 you r emember t he quest i on?
25 THE WI TNESS: Yes.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What was t he quest i on?
2 THE WI TNESS: Di d I r ecei ve t hi s.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And t he answer ?
4 THE WI TNESS: I ' mwor ki ng my way t hr ough i t
5 ment al l y as t o how I got t hi s.
6 MR. KI NG: I f I ' mnot mi st aken, we' r e past
7 t hat . You sai d you di d r ecei ve i t . He doesn' t r ecal l
8 how. And my f ol l ow- up quest i on was: Di d you r espond t o
9 t he al l egat i ons by J udge Hol mes t hat ar e cont ai ned i n t hat
10 l et t er , and by t he accompanyi ng document s?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, i f you coul d
12 f ocus on answer i ng t hat quest i on, t hat woul d be hel pf ul t o
13 t he panel .
14 THE WI TNESS: One, t hi s l et t er i s not t o me.
15 I woul d l i ke t o r ead i t . Agai n, t hat ' s wher e t he not i ce
16 par t of due pr ocess i s key, you know.
17 I f I was not i ced on t he i dea t hat I di dn' t
18 r espond t o t hi s - - and I ' l l ent er my obj ect i on. I woul d
19 l i ke t o see wher e i n t he compl ai nt i t says Mr . Coughl i n
20 f ai l ed t o r espond or cooper at e wi t h Bar counsel . I t
21 mi ght . I ' d j ust l i ke t o be sur e.
22 Wher e does i t say wher e - - was I not i ced t he
23 i mpor t of t oday was goi ng t o i ncl ude, t he r el evant i nqui r y
24 t oday t hat I have been put on not i ce f or , was goi ng t o
25 i ncl ude t he i dea t hat I di dn' t appr opr i at el y r espond t o
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1 t hi s?
2 So i f I go t o t he compl ai nt , I ' mj ust
3 wonder i ng wher e i n t he compl ai nt mi ght I be put on not i ce
4 t hat I woul d be expect ed t o know when I got t hi s t oday,
5 and r espond i nt el l i gent l y i n t hat r egar d.
6 ( Exhi bi t 9 mar ked. )
7 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, may I move on?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You may.
9 THE WI TNESS: May I answer as best as I can
10 r emember t hen?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I f you wi l l answer t he
12 quest i on, i t woul d be hel pf ul . But t hese r ambl i ng
13 di scour ses ar e not hel pf ul .
14 THE WI TNESS: They' r e not wi nni ng any poi nt s
15 on not i ce and due pr ocess?
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s i s a pr el i mi nar y
17 i nvest i gat i on. Bar r ul es r equi r e at t or neys t o cooper at e
18 wi t h t he pr el i mi nar y i nvest i gat i on. As I under st and,
19 Mr . Ki ng i s t r yi ng t o est abl i sh whet her or not you di d so.
20 That ' s an i ssue t hat I bel i eve i s r el evant t o t he
21 det er mi nat i on of t he degr ee of puni shment , i f any, t hat
22 shoul d f l ow t o you as a r esul t of your conduct .
23 So, Mr . Ki ng, move on, pl ease.
24 MR. KI NG: Thank you.
25 THE WI TNESS: Your Honor , can I j ust qui ckl y
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1 at t empt t o mor e t hor oughl y addr ess t hat i ssue?
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hi nk you' ve been af f or ded
3 adequat e oppor t uni t y t o do so. How you choose t o r espond
4 i s up t o you.
5 Mr . Ki ng, next quest i on, pl ease.
6 MR. KI NG: Thank you.
7 THE WI TNESS: That ' s t he whol e not i ce t hi ng.
8 You' r e aski ng me t o answer a quest i on based upon a
9 t wo- page l et t er wher e I haven' t been not i ced on t he i dea
10 t hat I wi l l be asked t o. And t hen i f I don' t - - i f I ' m
11 wor ki ng t hr ough i t , you' r e cut t i ng me of f , not l et t i ng me
12 put i t i n t he r ecor d.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng, you ci t ed i n one of
14 your pl eadi ngs a r equest t hat al l i ssues pendi ng bef or e
15 you be hear d at one hear i ng. Ther e was a l et t er you sent
16 t o t he st at e Bar t hat you quot e i n one of your pl eadi ngs.
17 THE WI TNESS: I r equest ed t hat ?
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes, si r .
19 THE WI TNESS: You haven' t r ead my pl eadi ngs.
20 My whol e poi nt was bi f ur cat i ng, how r i di cul ous i t i s t o
21 gl omal l t hese t oget her . I ' mso gl ad you j ust sai d t hat
22 on t he r ecor d.
23 BY MR. KI NG:
24 Q Could you please take a look at this document
25 that's been marked as Exhibit No. 9, and tell me if you
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1 recognize that?
2 A You act ual l y j ust sai d t hat . My whol e poi nt
3 was - -
4 Q Mr. Coughlin, there is a question pending --
5 A - - separ at e hear i ng. The sol e pur pose of t he
6 60838 suspensi on, on a candy bar . That was my whol e
7 poi nt .
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t hose i ssues
9 have been r esol ved. Mr . Ki ng has asked you a quest i on.
10 THE WI TNESS: By an or der you ent er ed t he day
11 af t er you wer e empanel ed.
12 BY MR. KI NG:
13 Q I don't have that much time, Mr. Coughlin.
14 Would you please answer the question I asked, which is if
15 you recognize --
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. I ' mgoi ng t o make
17 a comment f or t he r ecor d.
18 MR. KI NG: Yes. Thank you.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Repeat edl y t hi s mor ni ng, and
20 I haven' t put on t he r ecor d yet , Mr . Coughl i n i s maki ng
21 f aces, r ol l i ng hi s eyes, expr essi ng exacer bat i on, t he
22 conduct of whi ch does not appear di r ect l y on t he r ecor d,
23 and I want t he r ecor d t o r ef l ect . And i f t he panel
24 member s di sagr ee wi t h me, t hey ar e f r ee t o say so.
25 MR. VELLI S: I woul d j oi n i n what t he chai r man
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1 sai d.
2 BY MR. KI NG:
3 Q The question is: Do you recognize what's been
4 marked as Exhibit No. 9?
5 A I ' msor r y f or t hat . To t he ext ent t hat ' s
6 t r ue. I don' t know t hat i t ' s t hat not ewor t hy, but I do
7 want t o convey my r espect f or t hi s panel , and I ' l l t r y t o
8 mi t i gat e t hat mor e.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ther e' s a quest i on pendi ng, I
10 bel i eve.
11 BY MR. KI NG:
12 Q Do you recognize that document, Mr. Coughlin?
13 A Thi s i s t he af f i davi t ?
14 Q It has a title of Affidavit of Poverty in
15 Support of Motion to Proceed In Forma Pauperis.
16 A I don' t see a capt i on on i t , Mr . Ki ng, so
17 t hat ' s t hr owi ng me of f a l i t t l e. Was t her e no capt i on on
18 i t ? Maybe - - oh, t hi s i s Page 2. So maybe Page 1 i s
19 mi ssi ng.
20 Q It looks like there is a Page 1, and a
21 signature notarized.
22 And the next question I have is: Is that your
23 signature?
24 A On Page 3?
25 Q On Page 2. Page 3 is Certificate of Service.
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1 A Not on mi ne. Page 2 i s t he f i r st page. The
2 f i r st page i s Page 2.
3 Q Do you recognize that document?
4 A I woul d obj ect t o t hat based on i t bei ng an
5 i ncompl et e document .
6 MR. KI NG: I ' mgoi ng t o move t o have Exhi bi t
7 No. 9 admi t t ed.
8 THE WI TNESS: I t l ooks as t hough page - -
9 MR. KI NG: Af f i davi t submi t t ed t o t he cour t ,
10 f i l ed i nt o t he cour t by Mr . Coughl i n, not ar i zed.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any obj ect i on, Mr . Coughl i n.
12 THE WI TNESS: Yes, si r , your Honor . The f i r st
13 page has a 2 at t he bot t om. That ' s what I mean by i t ' s
14 Page 2. I t seems t o be mi ssi ng Page 1. And I woul d
15 obj ect t o t he f act i t doesn' t appear t o be a compl et e
16 document .
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Does t hat appear t o be your
18 handwr i t i ng?
19 THE WI TNESS: Yes, si r .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I s t hat your si gnat ur e
21 af f i xed t o what ' s i dent i f i ed as Page 3, Bat es st amp 1699?
22 THE WI TNESS: I t l ooks l i ke a par t i al
23 si gnat ur e.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 9 wi l l be admi t t ed.
25 MR. KI NG: Thank you.
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1 ( Exhi bi t 9 admi t t ed. )
2 BY MR. KI NG:
3 Q This is dated -- it says it was filed in
4 municipal court March 7th, 2012. Is this a document or a
5 part of a document that you had filed with the court
6 seeking in forma pauperis status?
7 A I r ecal l r espondi ng t o t hi s Mar ch 14t h l et t er .
8 I j ust don' t r ecal l when I got i t .
9 Q I'm talking about your affidavit. We're on
10 Exhibit No. 9, Mr. Coughlin. You're looking at the letter
11 that's no longer at issue at the moment. Could you look
12 at your affidavit --
13 A I t hought t he l et t er r ef er enced t hi s i n some
14 way.
15 Q No. This affidavit is something you filed in
16 the municipal court in Reno. I'm asking you if you caused
17 this to be filed into the court?
18 A I don' t bel i eve I caused anyt hi ng t hat ' s
19 st ar t ed on Page 2. So i f you' r e r ef er r i ng t o a por t i on of
20 a document .
21 Q Whatever this document is, part of a bigger
22 document, did you submit this to the municipal court
23 seeking in forma pauperis status?
24 A Di d I submi t a par t i al document ?
25 Q This document. As part of a document or on
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1 its own? This is the document I have in front of me that
2 you've acknowledged you signed, and I'm asking if you
3 filed it with the municipal court. If you don't know, you
4 don't know. But if you know, I'd like you to answer.
5 A I t l ooks l i ke an I FP, I r ecal l .
6 Q It says in your household, one dog, three
7 years old. Do you have a dog? Is that your writing?
8 A I bel i eve i t i s.
9 Q And then under self-employment you've checked
10 you're a jack-of-all-trades to the court. You were a
11 lawyer barred at the time. Did you believe you were being
12 truthful with the court?
13 A I al ways f i nd t hi s i nt er est i ng when peopl e - -
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n - -
15 THE WI TNESS: I ' manswer i ng hi s quest i on.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n. Why do you
17 bel i eve I ' mi nt er r upt i ng you now? You don' t get i t yet ?
18 You wer e i nt er r upt i ng Mr . Ki ng. I ' ve asked you t o pl ease
19 r ef r ai n f r omdoi ng so.
20 THE WI TNESS: I ' msor r y. Hi s quest i on was
21 compound, so I was t r yi ng t o answer t he f i r st par t of i t .
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I f you have an obj ect i on t o
23 hi s quest i on, make t he obj ect i on, but don' t i nt er r upt .
24 THE WI TNESS: Act ual l y, I t hi nk he was done
25 wi t h t he f i r st par t of hi s quest i on, and I was answer i ng
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1 i t .
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pr oceed wi t h your quest i on,
3 Mr . Ki ng.
4 BY MR. KI NG:
5 Q The question is: When you identified yourself
6 as a jack-of-all-trades as opposed to informing the court
7 that you were a licensed attorney in Nevada, do you
8 believe you were being truthful with the court?
9 A I ' ve al ways f ound i t i nt er est i ng when t hi s
10 subj ect i s br ought up - -
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t hat quest i on
12 cal l s f or a yes or no answer .
13 THE WI TNESS: I t hi nk I ' ve been t r ut hf ul at
14 al l t i mes. Maybe t oo t r ut hf ul .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So t he answer i s: Yes, t hat
16 was a t r ue st at ement ?
17 THE WI TNESS: Yeah. And I t hi nk i t ' s
18 i nt er est i ng t he i dea t hat j ust because I have a l aw
19 l i cense - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you' r e now
21 ar gui ng. You' ve answer ed t he quest i on. You wi l l have
22 t i me t o ar gue l at er .
23 Mr . Ki ng.
24 MR. KI NG: Has Exhi bi t No. 9 been admi t t ed,
25 t he af f i davi t ? I ' mmovi ng f or - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have an obj ect i on,
2 Mr . Coughl i n?
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s not a compl et e document ,
4 and i t ' s not cer t i f i ed.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r ul i ng of t he chai r wi l l
6 be t hat Exhi bi t 9 wi l l be admi t t ed. The f i r st t wo pages
7 appear t o be a compl et e document i n and of i t sel f ent i t l ed
8 an Af f i davi t and concl udi ng wi t h a si gnat ur e, and a
9 not ar i zed si gnat ur e, t oget her wi t h a pr oof of ser vi ce by
10 t he Reno Muni ci pal Cour t . Exhi bi t 9 wi l l be admi t t ed.
11 ( Exhi bi t 9 admi t t ed. )
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I have a quest i on on t hat .
13 What i s j ack- of - al l - t r ades, Mr . Coughl i n?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: To me i t meant somebody
15 st r uggl i ng t o make a l i vi ng i s what I was doi ng t o pay
16 some bi l l s.
17 ( Exhi bi t 10 mar ked. )
18 BY MR. KI NG:
19 Q Handing you, Mr. Coughlin, a copy. If you
20 look at the bottom right-hand side of the paper, you will
21 see this is a certified order.
22 I would ask that it be admitted as Exhibit
23 No. 10.
24 A Oh, I know.
25 Q It is an order by Judge Kenneth Howard. If
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1 you'll look at the bottom of the first paragraph, you'll
2 see, "Appellant Coughlin requested that he be provided the
3 trial transcript at public expense on the basis that he
4 was indigent. On November 14th, 2011, Defendant Coughlin
5 filed a Motion to Proceed In Forma Pauperis wherein he
6 seeks a waiver of certain fees due to his asserted
7 indigence."
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 10 has been of f er ed.
9 Any obj ect i on, Mr . Coughl i n?
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve t hi s i s not i ced
11 i n t he compl ai nt .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I coul dn' t hear t hat . You
13 had your hands cover i ng your mout h, and you mumbl ed.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t bel i eve i t was not i ced
15 i n t he compl ai nt . So my obj ect i on, I guess, woul d be
16 r el evancy, l ack of not i ce, SCR. I t wasn' t i n t he DowSoE.
17 I don' t bel i eve t he desi gnat i on of wi t nesses summar y i s
18 evi dence.
19 So i t ' s ki nds of a, hey, got cha her e t oday.
20 Oh, you' r e not pr epar ed t o r ebut t hi s because we di dn' t
21 not i ce i t ?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any ot her obj ect i on?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: No, si r .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Over r ul ed. Exhi bi t 10 wi l l
25 be admi t t ed.
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1 ( Exhi bi t 10 admi t t ed. )
2 MR. KI NG: You wi l l see i t ' s Bat es st amped
3 document 01831. Or act ual l y 080 sequent i al l y as showi ng
4 t hat i t was pr oduced t o Mr . Coughl i n.
5 BY MR. KI NG:
6 Q If you will look at the second to the last
7 paragraph on Page 2. It reads, "Mr. Coughlin is a
8 licensed attorney at law who implied during trial that his
9 incarceration for contempt would adversely affect his
10 clients. Yet, Mr. Coughlin, in his 'affidavit of poverty'
11 does not indicate any" --
12 A Ar e you wear i ng car go pant s at a bar hear i ng?
13 Q -- "from his practice of law."
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. Di d you j ust
15 i nt er r upt agai n? Si r ?
16 THE WI TNESS: I t hought he was done.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No, you di dn' t . You coul dn' t
18 have. Pl ease, si r - -
19 THE WI TNESS: I was t aken aback by t he f act
20 t hat he' s wear i ng car go pant s t o a Bar hear i ng. Sor r y.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, pl ease, f or
22 your own sake, pl ease do not i nt er r upt agai n.
23 Mr . Ki ng.
24 MR. KI NG: Thank you, Mr . Chai r man.
25 BY MR. KI NG:
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1 Q It says, "Yet, Mr. Coughlin, in his 'affidavit
2 of poverty' does not indicate any income from his practice
3 of law. Of note, Mr. Coughlin posted cash bail during the
4 litigation of the instant matter.
5 "This Court has not been provided sufficient
6 information to determine Mr. Coughlin's indigency status
7 and will not grant him carte blanche authority to continue
8 the fishing expedition he conducted during the trial of
9 this matter. Appellant's motion to further pursue this
10 matter at public expense is denied."
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng, i t ' s now 1: 45. Do
12 you have much f ur t her ?
13 MR. KI NG: I have no mor e wi t nesses t o cal l ,
14 and I onl y have a coupl e of document s t o admi t .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay.
16 THE WI TNESS: Excuse me, si r . Was t her e a
17 quest i on or was he j ust r eadi ng - - he was j ust r eadi ng i t
18 i nt o t he r ecor d?
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He r ead par t of what was i n
20 Exhi bi t 10, whi ch has been admi t t ed. He r ead por t i ons of
21 t hat exhi bi t i nt o t he r ecor d. Yes, t hat ' s what he di d.
22 THE WI TNESS: Okay.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any f ur t her
24 quest i ons of Mr . Coughl i n?
25 MR. KI NG: Yes.
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1 ( Exhi bi t 11 mar ked. )
2 BY MR. KI NG:
3 Q Mr. Coughlin, I'm handing you Exhibit No. 11.
4 Do you recognize that document?
5 A I t l ooks l i ke J udge Howar d' s cont empt or der .
6 Q We heard from Judge Holmes, and she held you
7 in contempt. Do you remember that discussion where you
8 were quizzing her about whether it was criminal or civil
9 contempt?
10 A Yes, si r .
11 Q In this particular order Judge Howard held you
12 in contempt of court; is that correct?
13 A I bel i eve so.
14 Q Did Judge Howard -- as a result of this
15 contempt order, were you incarcerated?
16 A Yes, si r .
17 Q Do you recall for how many days you were
18 incarcerated on this particular order?
19 A I bel i eve i t was t hr ee.
20 Q Do you recall the reason that Judge Howard
21 sentenced you to jail and held you in contempt?
22 A Ar e you r ef er r i ng t o what he ver bal l y r ender ed
23 at t he t i me or what has been r educed t o wr i t i ng her e or
24 what I t hi nk he di d i t f or ?
25 Q Express to the panel, if you know, what reason
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1 you were given for being held in contempt by Judge Howard.
2 A That ' s what I was aski ng. When you say what
3 r eason I was gi ven. Ther e' s a number of t hi ngs f r omwhi ch
4 I mi ght dr aw t hat r eason, whet her i t ' s t hi s r educed t o
5 wr i t i ng or der or what he mi ght have r ender ed at t he t i me
6 shor t l y bef or e handcuf f s wer e pl aced on me. But you di d
7 say what r eason he gave - -
8 Q Your understanding of the reason that you were
9 held in contempt by Judge Howard?
10 A I r ecal l hi m- - wel l , I t hi nk i t was one t hi ng
11 bef or e I got t hi s. And t hen i t changed somewhat when I
12 got t hi s, you know. But i t was - - and I f or get what he
13 r ender ed f r omt he bench at t hat t i me. But i t was
14 basi cal l y cont empt uous conduct . He mi ght have sai d at t he
15 t i me cont i nui ng l i nes of i nqui r y af t er bei ng t ol d not t o.
16 Ther e was a def i ni t e sense t hat any sor t of
17 quest i oni ng t hat mi ght somehow subj ect t he pol i ce t o
18 r espond i n a way t hat mi ght br i ng t o l i ght any cul pabi l i t y
19 or t hei r par t was somet hi ng t hat upset hi mgr eat l y.
20 Q Thank you, Mr. Coughlin.
21 Looking at the first page of that document
22 where it says --
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Ki ng. Do you
24 have a copy f or t he panel ?
25 MR. KI NG: Yes. As a mat t er of f act , si nce
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1 t hi s i s a cer t i f i ed copy, I ' l l move t o admi t t hi s as
2 Exhi bi t No. 11.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 11 has been moved
4 i nt o evi dence. Mr . Coughl i n, any obj ect i on?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , I woul d obj ect based on
6 t he f act t hat t he ent i r e r es i n whi ch t hi s pr osecut i on
7 st ems i s vi ol at i ve of Nevada l aw, and t he t r i bal pol i ce
8 of f i cer s ar e not al l owed t o conduct a mi sdemeanor ar r est ,
9 and t hi s was a mi sdemeanor ar r est .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mi nt er est ed i n any
11 obj ect i on t o Exhi bi t 11 bei ng admi t t ed.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, i n t hat i t ' s a voi d or der .
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you appeal i t ?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I di d.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Was i t af f i r med?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I t was.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 11 wi l l be admi t t ed.
18 ( Exhi bi t 11 admi t t ed i nt o evi dence. )
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know i f my appeal was
20 di smi ssed or not .
21 MR. KI NG: Wi t h t he cour t ' s per mi ssi on, t he
22 r eason gi ven by t he j udge, he has check boxes, but he
23 act ual l y has some t yped i n bol d sect i ons. Readi ng i t i nt o
24 t he r ecor d, " Di sor der l y, cont empt uous or i nsol ent behavi or
25 t owar d t he j udge whi l e he i s hol di ng cour t , or engaged i n
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1 hi s j udi ci al dut i es at chamber s, To wi t : Ref usi ng t o obey
2 di r ect i ves of t he J udge, cont i nui ng l i nes of i nqui r y af t er
3 bei ng advi sed by t he Cour t t o r ef r ai n f r omdoi ng so,
4 demeani ng t he Cour t wi t h st at ement s such as ' WOW' i n
5 r esponse t o cour t r ul i ngs, l aughi ng dur i ng t est i mony and
6 f ur t her quest i oni ng t he cour t and i t s aut hor i t y. "
7 I may have t o get addi t i onal copi es of t hi s
8 or der , your Honor . Thi s i s a cer t i f i ed or der as wel l .
9 Thi s or der i s si gned by Kennet h Howar d.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hi nk t hat ' s t he same as
11 Exhi bi t 10; i s i t not ?
12 BY MR. KI NG:
13 Q Mr. Coughlin, after a trial on the -- I think
14 you just alluded to a charge that had something to do with
15 the Indian tribal police or something, I'm not sure. But
16 were you charged with theft out of a Walmart store?
17 A I bel i eve so.
18 Q Was there a trial on that, a court trial?
19 A Yes, si r .
20 Q At the end of that court trial did the judge
21 render a verdict finding you guilty?
22 A Yes, si r .
23 Q Was that appealed, was the decision of the
24 court appealed by you?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q Was the conviction upheld on appeal?
2 A Wel l , when he r ender ed hi s or der - -
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t he quest i on
4 cal l s f or a yes or no answer . Was t he convi ct i on - -
5 BY MR. KI NG:
6 Q I'll give you an opportunity to explain. But
7 if you would just start with that answer. Was it upheld
8 on appeal?
9 A I don' t know qui t e how t o answer t hat , i f a
10 yes or no. I woul d have t o r ead t he or der mor e
11 t hor oughl y.
12 Q Not to be condescending, but you're fighting
13 for your law license. Do you know whether or not you
14 filled an appeal and whether or not it was upheld on
15 appeal?
16 A I f somet hi ng i s di smi ssed, i s t hat t he same as
17 bei ng not uphel d? I know i t ci t ed t o a ci vi l st at ue on
18 t he pr epar at i on of t r anscr i pt s, whi ch doesn' t appl y t o a
19 cr i mi nal def endant . Even t hough on t he bench 14 year s,
20 some peopl e woul d say t hat ' s ki nd of - - I don' t know how
21 appr opr i at e t hat i s.
22 And he t ol d me t hat when t hey br ought me back
23 f r omt he cel l . He sai d, you have t o pay f or t he
24 t r anscr i pt up f r ont at your own expense. When act ual l y
25 Nevada l aw does not say t hat . I t says t he cour t has t o
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1 or der t he t r anscr i pt pr epar ed wi t hi n t en days, r egar dl ess
2 of whet her you pay or not . Regar dl ess. So who i s
3 st eal i ng?
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Maybe t he quest i on can be
5 phr ased di f f er ent l y. You di d t ake an appeal f r omt he
6 convi ct i on?
7 THE WI TNESS: Yes, si r .
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What was t he r esul t of t he
9 appeal ?
10 THE WI TNESS: J udge El l i ot t sai d I di dn' t ci t e
11 t o t he t r anscr i pt .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What was t he r esul t - -
13 THE WI TNESS: So I want t o say he deni ed t he
14 appeal , because I di dn' t ci t e t o t he t r anscr i pt t hat t he
15 muni cour t vi ol at ed Nevada l aw i n not pr epar i ng - - when
16 t hey hol d out PamLongoni , house t r anscr i pt i oni st , and
17 t hey t el l you she i s t he onl y one you can use, and you
18 have t o pay her a subst ant i al down payment up f r ont , and
19 we' r e not goi ng t o pr epar e t he t r anscr i pt unt i l you do
20 t hat .
21 And I t hi nk t hey al so say t hey ar e not goi ng
22 t o t r ansmi t i t i n f ul l unt i l you pay i n f ul l . But t hey
23 don' t st ar t i t unt i l you put down l i ke 250 or somet hi ng.
24 I t depends on how l ong i t i s. Whi ch i s al l vi ol at i ve of
25 Nevada l aw - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t woul d hel p, Mr . Coughl i n,
2 i f you coul d f ocus on t he quest i ons.
3 THE WI TNESS: Yes, si r .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What was t he r esul t of t he
5 appeal ?
6 THE WI TNESS: Techni cal l y, I don' t know how.
7 I f i l ed a br i ef . I t di d not t ur n out good f or me. I
8 don' t know whet her t hey sai d i t was deni ed or uphel d. But
9 basi cal l y t he or der was shor t , and i t sai d, you di dn' t
10 ci t e t o t he t r anscr i pt .
11 So I t hi nk he essent i al l y sai d I ' mnot goi ng
12 t o consi der your 40- page 50- page br i ef , what ever t hat I
13 t yped out - - wel l , maybe t hat was a subsequent supr eme
14 cour t t hi ng - -
15 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, I was hopi ng t o
16 expedi t e by get t i ng t he t est i mony f r omMr . Coughl i n. I
17 have t he or der s. I wi l l j ust mar k t hemand admi t t hem.
18 ( Exhi bi t 12 mar ked. )
19 THE WI TNESS: Basi cal l y J udge El l i ot t sai d you
20 have t o ci t e t o t he r ecor d - -
21 ( Exhi bi t 13 mar ked. )
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng i s handi ng somet hi ng
23 t o t he r epor t er . Pl ease don' t t al k whi l e he' s doi ng t hat .
24 MR. KI NG: So you shoul d each have t wo
25 document s i n f r ont of you. One i s ent i t l ed Or der Gr ant i ng
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1 Respondent ' s Mot i on t o Di smi ss Appeal . The ot her or der i s
2 t he Or der Af f i r mi ng Rul i ng of t he Reno Muni ci pal Cour t .
3 MR. VELLI S: What number s ar e t hose?
4 MR. KI NG: 12 and 13.
5 BY MR. KI NG:
6 Q Mr. Coughlin, just a couple of follow-up
7 questions. There's a couple of other matters pending that
8 are not yet resolved in the courts. One has to do with
9 the -- what I'm going to ask you simply is if you know the
10 status of the case, if you yourself know the status of
11 your cases. One has to do with the theft of a cell phone.
12 Do you know the status of that case?
13 A Yes. Tr i al i s cont i nui ng on t he 19t h.
14 Q And then another arrest and charge of making
15 9-1-1 calls in violation of the law. Do you know the
16 status of that case?
17 A Yeah. The D. A. i s seeki ng a l et t er , CR1116,
18 ser i ous of f ense, by pl eadi ng i t down t o a si mpl e
19 mi sdemeanor of somet hi ng l i ke r esi st i ng, whi ch wi l l
20 necessi t at e upon a convi ct i on of a ser i ous of f ense
21 pet i t i on, ver sus i ncongr uousl y t he gr eat er gr oss
22 mi sdemeanor I don' t bel i eve woul d be a ser i ous of f ense
23 under our supr eme cour t r ul es.
24 Q So they're thinking of increasing it to
25 include a resting charge?
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1 A No, t hey' r e - -
2 Q Dropping it down?
3 A They' r e dr oppi ng i t down. But i t ' s wor se f or
4 me t o what t hey ar e dr oppi ng i t down t o, because, l i ke I
5 coul d beat my wi f e, and I woul dn' t be suspended
6 t empor ar i l y. But i f you' r e convi ct ed, no mat t er how
7 l acki ng due pr ocess t he t r i al was of a candy bar , you get
8 suspended.
9 And i t ' s pr et t y much t he same i f you
10 mi sappr opr i at e 800K and use i t on hooker s, ver sus l i ke
11 eat i ng a candy bar maybe you di dn' t even st eal . I t mi ght
12 be somet hi ng, your meds, some i ssues wi t h t hat .
13 Q Then the last question I'm going to ask you,
14 just to give you an opportunity to expound --
15 A I ' msor r y, Mr . Ki ng. Coul d I f i ni sh up on
16 t hat ?
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you want t o i nt er r upt on
18 t hat , despi t e bei ng caut i oned?
19 THE WI TNESS: I don' t , si r . You know what ,
20 when you say t o a di abet i c your bl ood sugar i s l ow agai n.
21 When you keep j ust pi cki ng at t hem- -
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ar e you cl ai mi ng t o be a
23 di abet i c?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: No. I ' mmaki ng an anal ogy.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Dr aw t he anal ogy f or me t hen,
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1 pl ease. What do you cl ai mt o be t hat you cl ai mI am
2 pi cki ng on you about ?
3 THE WI TNESS: I don' t want t o get i nt o i t .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Woul d you wi t hdr aw your
5 comment ?
6 THE WI TNESS: Wel l , I mean, l et ' s deduce t hi s.
7 What coul d I be r ef er r i ng t o? What mi ght you be l acki ng
8 i nsensi t i vi t y wi t h r egar d t o?
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You made t he comment , si r .
10 I ' maski ng you t o dr aw t he anal ogy. Do you cl ai msome
11 f or m- -
12 THE WI TNESS: You keep pi cki ng at me f or
13 i nt er r upt i ng you, not f ol l owi ng t he r ul es.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Because t hat ' s par t of what
15 i s expect ed of a compet ent at t or ney i s t o not i nt er r upt ,
16 t o show r espect f or t he ot her counsel , t o show r espect f or
17 t he cour t , t o show r espect f or t he r epor t er who can' t
18 i nt er pr et - -
19 THE WI TNESS: Wel l , you - - okay.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. Two - -
21 THE WI TNESS: You' r e doi ng i t agai n. I f I
22 kept sayi ng, hey, bl ood sugar . Bl ood sugar . Get your
23 bl ood sugar r i ght , di abet i c.
24 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man - -
25 THE WI TNESS: You woul d be ki nd of
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1 i nsensi t i ve, woul dn' t you? We al l have our st r engt hs and
2 weakness.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you cl ai mt o have some
4 l evel of i ncompet ency or i mpai r ment t hat you asser t I am
5 pi cki ng on?
6 THE WI TNESS: Wel l , l et ' s say hypot het i cal l y
7 someone had l i ke an at t ent i on def i ci t di sor der or
8 somet hi ng.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me. I don' t want t o
10 t al k hypot het i cal l y.
11 THE WI TNESS: Of cour se not , because we' r e not
12 t al ki ng about your per sonal st uf f . You want t o get r eal
13 speci f i c when i t ' s not your per sonal st uf f .
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you made an
15 anal ogy, si r , and I ' maski ng you t o dr aw t he connect i on.
16 Do you cl ai mt o have some i nf i r mi t y si mi l ar t o di abet es
17 wi t h whi ch I ' mpi cki ng on you?
18 THE WI TNESS: I guess, yeah.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s t hat ?
20 THE WI TNESS: I don' t want - - f eel comf or t abl e
21 get t i ng i nt o i t , you know. But l et ' s say I had at t ent i on
22 def i ci t di sor der .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot i nt er est ed i n
24 hypot het i cal s. Do you cl ai mt o have an at t ent i on def i ci t
25 di sor der ?
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1 THE WI TNESS: I don' t r eal l y want t o get i nt o
2 i t .
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You r ai sed i t , si r . I t ' s
4 par t of mi t i gat i on. I f you' r e cl ai mi ng some i mpai r ment ,
5 t hi s panel i s ent i t l ed t o hear t hat . I f you ar e not
6 cl ai mi ng an i mpai r ment , t hen we shoul d know t hat .
7 THE WI TNESS: I t hi nk al l I ' mdoi ng i s
8 suggest i ng t o you t hat maybe somebody i s not der ogat i ng
9 your aut hor i t y or cont i nui ng on l i nes of i nqui r y af t er
10 bei ng t ol d not t o or f i l i ng t hi ngs t hat ar e t oo l ong t o
11 make you mad or because t hey l ack compet ency, you know.
12 Some peopl e ar e j ust di f f er ent , you know.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mof f er i ng you an
14 oppor t uni t y t o expl ai n t o t hi s panel some mi t i gat i ng
15 f act or t hat mi ght i nvol ve an i mpai r ment . You dr ew an
16 anal ogy. I ' mgi vi ng you an open wi dow i f you want t o
17 cl ai msome f or mof i mpai r ment . I f you don' t , t hen t el l us
18 so and wi t hdr aw your comment . I f you do, t hen t el l us.
19 THE WI TNESS: Wel l , i t ' s j ust - - t her e seems
20 t o be cer t ai n t ypes of , f or ms of i mpai r ment t hat ar e mor e
21 i n vogue t han ot her s, and t hat ar e - - get mor e sympat hy
22 t han ot her s.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' maski ng you i f you ar e
24 cl ai mi ng - -
25 THE WI TNESS: My ex, f or i nst ance, she' s a
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1 di abet i c.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Your ex i s not t he subj ect
3 her e, Mr . Coughl i n. You ar e.
4 THE WI TNESS: She i s t he one t hat t ook t wo
5 mont hs' r ent - -
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o t ake your
7 f ai l ur e t o answer my di r ect quest i on t hat you' r e not
8 cl ai mi ng some f or mof i mpai r ment . Can we concl ude t hat ?
9 THE WI TNESS: No, I guess I am.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t hat i mpai r ment ?
11 THE WI TNESS: Ther e i s a shame aspect t o i t .
12 But I am, I guess, di agnosed wi t h at t ent i on def i ci t
13 di sor der .
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Have you sought t r eat ment f or
15 t hat ?
16 THE WI TNESS: Yeah.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Have you been pr escr i bed
18 medi cat i on f or t hat ?
19 THE WI TNESS: Uh- huh.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you t ake i t ?
21 THE WI TNESS: I do. The j ai l won' t l et me
22 t ake i t when I ' mi n j ai l . But when I ' mout si de, I do t ake
23 i t .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Have you t aken i t t oday?
25 THE WI TNESS: Yeah. But - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ar e you t aki ng?
2 THE WI TNESS: Do I have t o answer t hat ?
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No.
4 THE WI TNESS: Ther e' s j ust a l ot of st i gma t o
5 i t . So much so t hat when you go t o j ai l t hey won' t l et
6 you t ake i t . Then you have t o - -
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you f eel you need
8 addi t i onal hel p i n deal i ng wi t h your pr obl em?
9 THE WI TNESS: Not r eal l y.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay.
11 Anyt hi ng f ur t her , Mr . Ki ng?
12 MR. KI NG: Yes. Wi t h t he panel ' s i ndul gence,
13 my l ast quest i on.
14 BY MR. KI NG:
15 Q Mr. Coughlin, I want to give you an
16 opportunity to explain your concern that two of the judges
17 that were involved in prosecuting you, if you want to, you
18 can explain their relationship.
19 Somehow you were trying to suggest that there
20 was a brother and sister, some sort of familial
21 relationship between the judges that caused you to be
22 treated unfairly. I just want to give you an opportunity
23 to expound on that.
24 A I ' ma l i t t l e uncomf or t abl e wi t h t hat , because
25 t he si st er j udge' s bai l i f f i s her e.
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1 Q If you wouldn't mind, can you tell me which
2 judges you're referring to?
3 A That woul d be t he j udge whose or der i s
4 appar ent l y ghost gr i evance, NG12- 0435. That woul d be
5 J udge Li nda Gar dner , t he f ami l y cour t j udge. The Apr i l
6 ' 09 sanct i on or der , t hat woul d be t he si st er j udge. And
7 you' r e pr ompt i ng me t o ki nd of expound upon wher e I
8 t hi nk - -
9 Q You put in pleadings to me, or not pleadings
10 but in e-mails rather --
11 A Thi s i s a good subj ect . I appr eci at e i t .
12 Q I'm letting you expound on it a little bit.
13 A Thi s i s i nt er est i ng, because i t al l t i es i t
14 t oget her . Of cour se, I was f i r ed. I bel i eve I have
15 pr esent ed l et t er s f r omMr . El cano sayi ng, you' r e f i r ed,
16 sol e r eason J udge Li nda Gar dner ' s or der , or you can say my
17 conduct t hat l ed t o t hat or der , what ever .
18 And so t hen f ast - f or war d t o bef or e t he
19 evi ct i on st ar t s, I st ar t get t i ng some cl i ent s at my home
20 l aw of f i ce whi ch i s commer ci al t enancy, or at l east
21 somewhat of a commer ci al t enancy. I have a mat t r ess
22 busi ness t hat ' s pr et t y much dor mant , but t hat ' s t he t hi ng.
23 But anyway, I ' mt r yi ng t o get t o i t qui ckl y.
24 I not e f ocus i s somet hi ng j udges woul d l i ke t o see mor e
25 out of me.
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1 But my poi nt i s t hat she i ssued - - t he next
2 t i me I appear ed bef or e her , she r ecused her sel f . I got a
3 cl i ent , and i t was j ust bef or e t he Ri char d Hi l l evi ct i on
4 t hi ng st ar t ed. So i t ' s j ust t hi s wei r d i r ony, because t o
5 me t hat ' s per se evi dence t hat I was oper at i ng a l aw
6 pr act i ce out of my home. And t hen i t t i es i n wi t h t he
7 f act t hat , okay, wel l , J udge Gar dner , she ci t ed, and I
8 have t he or der i f I ' l l be abl e t o put i t on l at er , but she
9 i ndi cat ed whi ch j udi ci al canon her r ecusal was done i n
10 l i ght of . And she ci t ed, I t hi nk i t ' s 2112. 1181, maybe.
11 I t hi nk as I r ead i t , t hat ' s t he one t hat says basi cal l y
12 t he j udge f l at out admi t s t hey have a pr obl emwi t h you or
13 bi as.
14 So anyway. I guess my poi nt woul d be, wel l ,
15 okay, i f t he si st er j udge st r ai ght out has a bi as agai nst
16 me, and I had f i l ed a mandamus act i on agai nst her , whi ch I
17 under st and she pr obabl y di dn' t appr eci at e. I know j udges.
18 A guy I ' msomewhat acquai nt ed wi t h, Denni s
19 Wi ddi s, he f i l ed a mandamus act i on agai nst J udge Ber r y at
20 one poi nt . He says t hey have a r eal l y good wor ki ng
21 r el at i onshi p now, bygones be bygones. And I hope at some
22 poi nt t hat ' s t he case, you know, her e.
23 But I t hi nk i t ' s possi bl e her br ot her
24 shoul dn' t have sat on t he cr i mi nal t r espass case. I n
25 f act , I f eel qui t e st r ongl y i n t hat r egar d. And I want t o
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1 be f ai r t o J udge Wi l l i amGar dner RMC. And I ' ve been
2 st ayi ng up r eal l at e f or a whi l e now r evi ewi ng al l t hese
3 t apes and t r anscr i pt s and I don' t want t o say he di dn' t
4 t el l me i t was hi s si st er , but I t hi nk i t ' s possi bl e t hat
5 i t was - - I had t o br i ng i t up, you know.
6 I t hi nk I had t o br i ng up t he f act t hat he
7 wor ked f or t he Reno ci t y at t or ney f r om- - I di dn' t say
8 exact l y what year s he wor ked f or t hem. But I br ought up
9 t he f act t hat he di d. And t hen subsequent l y I hear d he
10 wor ked f or t hemf r om' 87 t o ' 97, t hen he t ook a shor t
11 br eak, went t o Ar i zona t o be a pr osecut or , t hen he wor ked
12 f r om' 97 t o 2000 i n pr i vat e pr act i ce f or seven year s, t hen
13 he was Reno ci t y at t or ney, ci vi l di vi si on, f r om' 07 t o
14 ' 10.
15 When t he j udge i s somebody who wor ked t he vast
16 maj or i t y of t hei r car eer f or t he i nst i t ut e t hat ' s
17 pr osecut i ng you, i t ' s a l i t t l e di f f i cul t t o bel i eve t hat
18 t hat woul dn' t have some bear i ng on t hei r deci si on- maki ng.
19 That bei ng sai d. I know peopl e who know J udge
20 Wi l l i amGar dner per sonal l y, and t hey speak ver y hi ghl y of
21 hi m. He was a publ i c def ender at some poi nt . And he,
22 appar ent l y f i r st or second year out of l aw school or
23 somet hi ng, he t ook a mur der t r i al t o acqui t t al on a sol o
24 basi s.
25 But I don' t t hi nk he shoul d have sat on t hi s
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1 case. I f eel qui t e st r ongl y i n t hat r egar d. And I ' ve
2 gone t hr ough t hat t r i al wi t h a f i ne- t oot h comb. And t o me
3 i t ' s i l l ust r at i ve of t he f act t hat we al l can t hi nk we can
4 be unbi ased about t hi ngs, but maybe t hi s i s a si t uat i on
5 wher e br i ght l i ne r ul es have t hei r ut i l i t y, you know.
6 And I t hi nk t her e i s a br i ght l i ne r ul e. But
7 I t hi nk you mi ght have t o l i ve i n t he same house as t he
8 j udge. J ust bei ng a ver y cl ose f ami l y r el at i on l i ke a
9 f i r st - degr ee; br ot her , si st er , I don' t know i f t hat ' s a
10 br i ght l i ne r ecusal . I t hi nk i f t hey l i ve i n t he same
11 house, i t woul d be.
12 But t o t he ext ent t hat dur i ng t he t i me t hat
13 t hi s t r i al went on t he mandamus act i on, me agai nst hi s
14 si st er , me agai nst t he Second J udi ci al , t hat wasn' t
15 pendi ng. I t hi nk t hat was r esol ved or pr et t y much
16 di sposed of . Whet her t her e was a gr i evance pendi ng goes
17 t o t he pr ocedur es of t he St at e Bar , I woul d i magi ne.
18 Because t her e wasn' t a compl ai nt , because t hat
19 wasn' t f i l ed unt i l August 23r d. But I suspect t hat - -
20 wel l , act ual l y, t he gr i evance t hat i nvol ves hi s si st er ' s
21 sanct i on or der was Mar ch 15t h r ecei ved. Ther e was a t r i al
22 set t i ng i n a case on Mar ch 8t h. That set t i ng occur r ed
23 dur i ng t he pendency of a compet ency eval uat i on. And - -
24 Q Is that a competency evaluation that you went
25 through?
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1 A Yes. And I ' ve had t hr ee of t hemt hi s year .
2 Q Was that to determine whether or not you were
3 fit -- you were capable of committing a crime, in essence?
4 A Of st andi ng t r i al f or a cr i me?
5 Q Yes.
6 A Yes.
7 Q And then in each of those cases they
8 determined you were competent to stand trial thus far; is
9 that fair?
10 A Yes. But I br i ng t hat up because t her e' s been
11 a gr eat deal of act i vi t y whi ch I bel i eve i s vi ol at i ve of a
12 st at ut e i n Nevada r equi r i ng pr oceedi ngs t o be st ayed once
13 a j udge ent er s an or der f or a compet ency eval uat i on.
14 I n t hat i nst ance J udge Wi l l i amGar dner , he set
15 a t r i al . He set a t r i al dat e despi t e - - and see, I want ed
16 t o ask J udge Hol mes t hi s. Because, and I ' ve gone i nt o
17 t hi s i n my br i ef s, but t her e i s a r eal r el evant per i od of
18 t i me ar ea t hat t hat deal s wi t h Febr uar y 27t h. A l ot
19 happened on Febr uar y 27t h.
20 MR. KI NG: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mgoi ng t o say t hat
21 my quest i oni ng of you i s concl uded. I ' msur e t he chai r
22 wi l l gi ve you a chance t o answer , but I don' t want i t t o
23 be i n t he f or mof an answer t o my quest i on.
24 So I t hank you. I have no f ur t her quest i ons
25 of Mr . Coughl i n. I ' mnot done wi t h my case, because I
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1 want t o make a st at ement . But i f t he panel has any
2 quest i ons.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do any of t he panel member s
4 have any quest i ons at t hi s t i me?
5 MR. KI NG: At t hi s poi nt i n t i me I ' mgoi ng
6 t o - -
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you. Mr . Coughl i n.
8 MR. KI NG: - - ask t he panel t o do somet hi ng,
9 t hen I ' mgoi ng t o r est our case. Then I ' mgoi ng t o save
10 ar gument f or t he end of t he ent i r e case, of cour se, and a
11 r ecommendat i on.
12 But I woul d l i ke t he panel t o r ecogni ze i t s
13 r esponsi bi l i t y t o conf or mt he pl eadi ng t o t he pr oof t hat ' s
14 pr esent ed bef or e t hem. I t hi nk t hi s panel has a ver y, I
15 r eal i ze i t ' s a ver y i mpor t ant r esponsi bi l i t y f or t he sake
16 of t he panel , t he Bar , t he at t or neys t hat pr act i ce l aw i n
17 Nevada and Mr . Coughl i n hi msel f .
18 But at t hese di sci pl i nar y hear i ngs
19 Mr . Coughl i n has demonst r at ed t he t ype of conduct t hat
20 he' s been accused of - -
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hi nk you' r e st ar t i ng t o
22 ar gue t he case, and t hat ' s - -
23 MR. KI NG: I want t o br i ng t o t he at t ent i on of
24 t he panel t hat I ' mwant i ng t hemas par t of my case t o
25 amend t he or der t o show t hat Mr . Coughl i n was
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1 di sr espect f ul t o J udge Hol mes, and t hat hi s conduct was
2 not l awyer l y, and t hat he showed a l ack of candor t o t he
3 cour t and t hi s panel .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I act ual l y t hi nk t hat ' s
5 ar gument , Mr . Ki ng.
6 MR. KI NG: I t hought I mi ght have t o do t hat
7 i n my case.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any ot her
9 evi dence?
10 MR. KI NG: Wi t h t hat sai d, I have no ot her
11 evi dence.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e seeki ng t o amend your
13 compl ai nt her e t oday about my conduct t oday? I s t hi s l i ke
14 a summar y di sci pl i nar y pr oceedi ng now?
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t he St at e Bar
16 has r est ed. You may cal l your next wi t ness.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I j ust conf i r mwhat - -
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you want t o t ake a shor t
19 br eak?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: No, I ' mgood. Can I j ust
21 conf i r mwhat happened? He sought t o amend hi s compl ai nt
22 i n l i ght of conduct commi t t ed al l egedl y i n t he pr esence of
23 t he panel ? I s t hat i t ?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I di dn' t ent er t ai n t hat . I
25 t ol d hi mI t hought t hat was ar gument . I bel i eve t hat he
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1 doesn' t need t o amend t he compl ai nt , t hat t hi s panel can
2 assess t he per f or mance of a l awyer subj ect t o pot ent i al
3 di sci pl i ne.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Summar y di sci pl i nar y
5 pr oceedi ng?
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I t ' s par t - - I bel i eve
7 a panel can per sonal l y obser ve t he conduct of at t or neys
8 who ar e pr esent bef or e t he panel and assess whet her t he
9 conduct at t he hear i ng i s consi st ent or i nconsi st ent wi t h
10 what appear s t o be a pat t er n of conduct . That ' s an
11 assessment t hat t he panel can make as par t of i t s
12 det er mi nat i on.
13 I n my vi ew, I don' t t hi nk any amendment has t o
14 be made. The i ssue her e i s whet her you ar e compet ent t o
15 pr act i ce l aw i n t he st at e of Nevada, whet her you have
16 vi ol at ed r ul es of pr of essi onal conduct . We have a di r ect
17 mandat e f r omt he supr eme cour t i n your case t hat we' r e t o
18 consi der what , i f any, puni shment shoul d be af f or ded as a
19 r esul t of your convi ct i on f or t hef t .
20 So t hat ' s why I cut hi mof f . I bel i eve he was
21 ent er i ng i nt o ar gument . I t hi nk he' s ent i t l ed t o ar gue
22 t hat your conduct her e exhi bi t s a cont i nuat i on of a
23 pat t er n.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: But I don' t get l i ke a - -
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, l et ' s t ake a
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1 r ecess unt i l 2: 30. I t ' s now 20 mi nut es af t er 2: 00. And
2 we' l l of f er you an oppor t uni t y - -
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t he - -
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I di dn' t mean t o
5 t al k whi l e you i nt er r upt ed. Go ahead and i nt er r upt .
6 MR. COUGHLI N: My bl ood sugar i s l ow.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: For t hat we' l l t ake a br eak
8 unt i l 2: 30 accor di ng t o t he St at e Bar cl ock.
9 ( Recess t aken. )
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let t he r ecor d r ef l ect t he
11 panel i s pr esent , r econveni ng at 2: 31.
12 Mr . Coughl i n, ar e you pr epar ed t o pr oceed wi t h
13 your por t i on of t he case?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead. Do you have a
16 wi t ness?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mgoi ng t o go ahead and put
18 on my case. J udge Nash Hol mes l i ed t oday.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s an ar gument . Do you
20 have evi dence t o pr esent ?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mt est i f yi ng.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' r e t est i f yi ng?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Lat er on I ' l l t est i f y.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' l l do t he ar gument at t he
25 concl usi on of t he evi dence.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mgoi ng t o put on some
2 evi dence r i ght now. Thi s i s t he audi o f r omt he t r i al ,
3 J udge Nash Hol mes' deal .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a copy f or us?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, I do.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a t r anscr i pt ?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: The audi o t r anscr i pt ?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t know what you ar e
9 of f er i ng, so I woul d l i ke t o see a t r anscr i pt .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: The of f i ci al audi o f r omt he
11 muni cour t .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s i t exact l y t hat
13 you' r e pr of f er i ng her e?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s a cour t of r ecor d. They
15 r ecor d t he pr oceedi ngs. And i t ' s t he audi o f r omt hat
16 pr oceedi ng. Pat Ki ng has i t . I got i t f r omPat Ki ng.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch pr oceedi ng i s t hi s?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: The t r af f i c case t hat she
19 t est i f i ed t o t oday wher e she sai d, I asked you i f you wer e
20 r ecor di ng, and t hen you got al l sneaky, and t hen you
21 want ed t o go t o t he bat hr oom. And I want t o show t hi s and
22 show whet her or not t he goi ng t o t he bat hr oomoccur r ed
23 bef or e t he sua spont e i nt er r ogat i on about t he r ecor di ng,
24 and we' l l see how t r ut hf ul J udge Nash Hol mes wi l l be.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a t r anscr i pt of
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1 t hat pr oceedi ng?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: The pr obl emi s I appeal ed i t .
3 And under t he l aw she i s supposed t o or der t he t r anscr i pt
4 whet her I pay a down payment or not , but t hey keep
5 br eaki ng t he l aw i n t he muni cour t . They j ust f l at out
6 br eak t he l aw. Some peopl e mi ght say i t hel ps t hei r
7 bot t oml i ne not t o pr epar e t he t r anscr i pt , even t hough t he
8 l aw says t hey have t o.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: My quest i on i s, do you have a
10 t r anscr i pt ?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: May I see i t , pl ease?
13 MR. COUGHLI N: No. I t ' s an audi o t r anscr i pt .
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have a t r anscr i bed
15 t r anscr i pt ?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: You mean l i ke a t yped out ?
17 Some of t hi s st uf f I t yped out . I f you had r ead t he st uf f
18 I submi t t ed t o you, you woul d see I t yped some of i t out
19 mysel f .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So i t ' s not a cer t i f i ed
21 t r anscr i pt ?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: The onl y cer t i f i ed one I have,
23 I bel i eve, i s t hat Ri char d Hi l l t r espass case.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Wel l , what i s i t exact l y t hat
25 you' r e of f er i ng now?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: The audi o f r omt he t r i al .
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t want i t j ust pl ayed
3 i nt o evi dence.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: You l et hi mj ust r ead st uf f
5 i nt o evi dence f r oman or der .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No, i t was af t er i t was
7 admi t t ed i nt o evi dence.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Al l r i ght . I woul d l i ke t o
9 admi t i nt o evi dence t he DVDs t hat I gave you, t hat I
10 at t ached.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I have t hr ee or f our DVDs.
12 Can you be speci f i c?
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah. The one at t ached as
14 exhi bi t , I bel i eve i t ' s Exhi bi t 4 t o t he ex par t e mot i on.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t have an Exhi bi t 4.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: But I al so was t ol d t hat you
17 consent ed - - i s i t not t he case t hat you consent ed t o
18 el ect r oni c ser vi ce t o some ext ent ?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I di d not consent t o t hat .
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Then how di d you r ul e on a
21 mot i on i f - -
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The mot i on was wr i t t en,
23 pr esent ed t o me, and I r ul ed.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: How di d you get t he mot i on?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The St at e Bar pr ovi ded i t t o
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1 me.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Oh. So di d t he St at e Bar
3 pr ovi de al l t he DVDs I gave t hem?
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s t hei r f unct i on,
5 Mr . Coughl i n.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d t hey pr ovi de t he DVDs I
7 gave t hem?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: They di dn' t ? I t hought t hat
10 was t hei r f unct i on.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I f you have evi dence t o
12 pr esent , i dent i f y i t . Let ' s be speci f i c.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes. The DVDs.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s not speci f i c, si r .
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s t he f i l e on t he DVDs t hat
16 i s 11 TR 26800R - - I onl y have a l i mi t ed t i me. Can I pl ay
17 t hi s?
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I don' t know anyt hi ng about
19 i t .
20 MR. COUGHLI N: I t has my name on t he f i l e, and
21 i t ' s on t he DVDs at t ached.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That does not l ay a
23 f oundat i on.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s t he of f i ci al cour t audi o
25 f r omt he muni cour t case t hat J udge Nash Hol mes t est i f i ed
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1 t o.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Lay t he f oundat i on. You
3 obj ect t o document s t hat have a cer t i f i cat i on by t he
4 count y cl er k or t he ci t y cl er k.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: Mr . Ki ng gave me t hi s. He gave
6 i t t o me as par t of t he l ef t over s f r omhi s scr eeni ng
7 panel , whi ch he st i l l won' t t el l me who was on t he
8 scr eeni ng panel . I t ' s t he cour t of r ecor d audi o r ecor di ng
9 by t he muni cour t of t hat .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have t hat on a
11 separ at e DVD or di sk or what ever ?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I gave i t t o Mr . Ki ng.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: As a separ at e document ?
14 MR. KI NG: Act ual l y, i t ' s not . I t ' s not ,
15 Mr . Chai r man. I encour aged Mr . Coughl i n t o go t o t he
16 muni ci pal cour t and pur chase or acqui r e, however i t ' s done
17 appr opr i at el y, of f i ci al r ecor ds - -
18 MR. COUGHLI N: And I di d. Act ual l y, my mom
19 di d.
20 MR. KI NG: Mr . Coughl i n sai d, I can' t get
21 t hem. They won' t gi ve t hemt o me.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah, t hey woul dn' t .
23 MR. KI NG: I sai d t hat ' s not my
24 r esponsi bi l i t y. You get t hem. And I cont act ed t he cour t
25 mysel f j ust t o f i nd out , and t hey sai d al l he needed t o do
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1 i s come i n, f i l l out a shor t f or m, and he can acqui r e
2 t hem.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Whi ch was a t ot al l i e.
4 MR. KI NG: So t hat ' s what t hey t ol d us. So I
5 expl ai ned t o Mr . Coughl i n t hat I don' t have t he of f i ci al
6 ver si on. I have copi es whi ch ar e, i n essence, copi es of
7 copi es. The r eason I obj ect t o any use of audi o
8 r ecor ds - -
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I was wr ong, Mr . Ki ng. I ' m
10 sor r y. My momact ual l y bought an of f i ci al ver si on, j ust
11 t o cut t o t he chase.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n. Can you t el l
13 me how many t i mes I need t o r emi nd you not t o i nt er r upt ?
14 At what poi nt do you get i t ?
15 MR. COUGHLI N: Si r , I j ust t hought i t woul d be
16 hel pf ul t o t he cour t , gi ven t he l i mi t ed t i me we have her e
17 t oday t o make sur e t he cour t i s awar e I mi ght have
18 mi sspoke ear l i er when I sai d - - I di d get a copy f r om
19 Mr . Ki ng - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Can you answer my quest i on,
21 si r , and qui t i nt er r upt i ng?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng.
24 MR. KI NG: Thank you. The r eason I obj ect so
25 st r ongl y t o t hese r ecor di ngs i s a t r anscr i pt you can l ook
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1 at , you can f i l l i n t he bl anks, i f you want t o r ead on
2 ei t her si de of somet hi ng t o put i t i n pr oper cont ext , you
3 can. And t hat ' s why a cour t r equi r es a wr i t t en
4 t r anscr i pt .
5 I was puni shed t o si t t hr ough t he r ecor di ngs
6 of al l t hese pr oceedi ngs as par t of my j ob as Bar counsel
7 doi ng an i nvest i gat i on. They go on f or hour s. And i n t he
8 case of t hi s par t i cul ar mat t er mor e t han one day.
9 So t o suggest t hat anyt hi ng i s goi ng t o be
10 pr oved by havi ng Mr . Coughl i n pul l out excer pt s and have
11 you l i st en t o i t wher e t her e i s no abi l i t y t o put i t i n
12 pr oper cont ext , no abi l i t y t o see t he ent i r e r ecor d, I
13 t hi nk i s hi ghl y pr ej udi ci al , and no doubt woul d conf use
14 t he mat t er as opposed t o assi st i ng t he mat t er .
15 Dor ot hy Nash Hol mes' or der as she sai d i t
16 speaks f or i t sel f . Those wer e her f i ndi ngs. That ' s when
17 she t est i f i ed t hat t hi s i s what I bel i eve t ook pl ace wi t h
18 r egar d t o t he audi o t r anscr i pt . But t hat wasn' t t he sol e
19 r eason f or her cont empt or der , and he was convi ct ed.
20 So hi mwant i ng t o bur den us by havi ng you
21 l i st en t o an excer pt of a vi deo r ecor di ng I t hi nk i s
22 hi ghl y i nappr opr i at e. Pl us, Mr . Coughl i n has demonst r at ed
23 an abi l i t y t o post mat t er s t o YouTube, t o do edi t i ng, and
24 we have no way t o know whet her or not , i n f act , t hese have
25 been edi t ed. I have l i st ened t o a coupl e of excer pt s f r om
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1 hi mr egar di ng an ar r est , and i t i s my opi ni on t hat t hey
2 wer e ext r emel y al t er ed.
3 So f or t hose r easons, ei t her an of f i ci al
4 t r anscr i pt be pr oduced of whi ch he' s had pl ent y of t i me t o
5 acqui r e one, or t hey not be admi t t ed f or t hat pur pose.
6 Thank you.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o r equi r e you t o
8 l ay a f oundat i on f or what ever i t i s you pr of f er .
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . I pr ovi ded t o t hi s
10 cour t and t he Bar t r ue and accur at e copi es of t he of f i ci al
11 audi o t r anscr i pt s. And i n some i nst ances t he pl eadi ngs
12 have gone i n t yped out t hi ngs. I n one i nst ance f or at
13 l east pr obabl y 80 per cent of t he summar y evi ct i on I t ook
14 advant age of a f r ee t r i al .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mf ocusi ng on what you' r e
16 pr of f er i ng now.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s i s a t r anscr i pt of t he
19 t r i al f or your t r af f i c ci t at i on?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The one t hat J udge Hol mes
22 i ssued an or der f i ndi ng you i n cont empt ?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you appeal i t ?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I t r i ed t o. She woul dn' t l et
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1 me.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And i t ' s a f i nal or der ?
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I di d t he r esear ch on t hat , but
4 she i s sayi ng - - I don' t know what she i s sayi ng. But she
5 i s not l et t i ng me appeal i t .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We know what she sai d i n her
7 or der . So I ' mnot goi ng t o ent er t ai n an i nqui r y i nt o t he
8 conduct of t he t r i al on your t r af f i c ci t at i on i t sel f .
9 That i ssue has been l i t i gat ed.
10 And i f you ar e of f er i ng por t i ons of t hat
11 t r anscr i pt wi t hout a f oundat i on, wi t hout a wi t ness her e t o
12 t el l us t hat what you ar e about t o pl ay i s an of f i ci al
13 par t of t he t r anscr i pt , wi t hout an of f i ci al wr i t t en
14 t r anscr i pt t hat i s easi l y obt ai ned, I ' mgoi ng t o sust ai n
15 t he obj ect i on.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d he have a wi t ness t o say
17 t he or der was such and such?
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes. I t ' s cal l ed a
19 cer t i f i cat i on.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: He got or der s t hat wer en' t
21 cer t i f i ed i nt o t he r ecor d t oday. Mr . El cano - -
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He l ai d a separ at e f oundat i on
23 f or t hem. I ' mgi vi ng you an oppor t uni t y t o l ay a
24 f oundat i on f or what you ar e about t o pl ay.
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot goi ng t o t ake i t on
2 your wor d.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Why not ?
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Because t he l aw r equi r es a
5 f oundat i on t o be l ai d. I ndependent .
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I ndependent of what I can l ay
7 f or i t ?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ri ght . I want somet hi ng f r om
9 t he cour t t hat says t hi s i s an of f i ci al t r anscr i pt .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: My obj ect i on, I bel i eve I am
11 abl e t o l ay a f oundat i on. I ' l l t est i f y under oat h t hi s i s
12 an of f i ci al copy of t he audi o t r anscr i pt i n t hat case.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: But you don' t know t hat .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, I do know t hat . My mom
15 had t o go pay f or i t because t hey woul d not gi ve i t t o me
16 f or mont hs. They woul dn' t l et me buy one. Pat Ki ng
17 pl ayed hi s l i t t l e game and woul dn' t gi ve i t t o me. He
18 woul dn' t gi ve me any of t he scr eeni ng panel t hi ngs,
19 because he' s so di shonest . I t ' s di sgust i ng.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, f r ommy vi ew
21 one of t he r ul es of pr of essi onal conduct i s t o t r eat
22 opponent s wi t h r espect .
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I agr ee.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot sur e t hat comment you
25 j ust made i s r espect f ul . So l et ' s pr oceed. I f you' r e
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1 about t o pl ay some audi o, I ' mnot goi ng t o per mi t i t
2 wi t hout an adequat e f oundat i on bei ng l ai d. So move on.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I - - wi t hout an adequat e
4 f oundat i on bei ng l ai d. And I can' t say i t ' s t he audi o my
5 momhad t o pay f or , 35 bucks, t o get f r omt he cour t ?
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. Your mot her i s not her e.
7 I f you want t o cal l her , we' l l l i st en t o what she has t o
8 say.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t have a phone. I can
10 cal l her ?
11 MR. VELLI S: Can he use t hi s one?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Shoul d I get up and di al ?
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Shoul d I appr oach t he phone and
15 di al ?
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: However you t hi nk you need t o
17 l ay a f oundat i on.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Mr . Ki ng, he can' t l ay t he
19 f oundat i on? He was pr ovi ded t hese by t he muni cour t .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thi s i s your case, si r .
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I cal l Pat Ki ng and say,
22 Pat , wer e you pr ovi ded t hese copi es of t he audi o?
23 Ever yt hi ng i s a copy, okay, i t ' s not - -
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s t he of f er of pr oof ?
25 What ar e you i nt endi ng t o pr ove?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: To show she i s so r eckl ess. To
2 show a l ot of t hi ngs. But one, t hi s i dea t hat a
3 convi ct i on i s compl et el y di sposi t i ve, he ci t ed no
4 aut hor i t y f or t hat .
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, t he supr eme
6 cour t i ssued an or der i n your case t hat says wi t h r espect
7 t o, i n essence, a convi ct i on, t hat t he sol e i ssue t o be
8 det er mi ned her e i s t he nat ur e and ext ent of t he
9 puni shment .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: But t hat ' s t he candy bar t hi ng.
11 You guys made a hear i ng about 30 ot her t hi ngs.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I kept t al ki ng
13 whi l e - -
14 MR. COUGHLI N: You wer e done t al ki ng, and I
15 r esponded. You keep t r yi ng t o bai t me, and you keep
16 t r yi ng t o make a r ecor d of t hat , and i t ' s di shonest t he
17 ext ent t o whi ch you do t hat . You st op t al ki ng, and I
18 r espond. I di dn' t t al k over you t hat t i me. And I r esent
19 t he f act t hat you keep appear i ng t o want t o do t hat .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The supr eme cour t , as I r ead
21 i t s or der , t el l s t hi s panel t hat t he onl y i ssue t o be
22 det er mi ned wi t h r espect t o a convi ct i on i s t he nat ur e and
23 ext ent of t he puni shment , i f any.
24 So i f you have t est i mony on t hat i ssue wi t h
25 r espect t o any convi ct i on, or or der hol di ng you i n
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1 cont empt , pl ease pr esent i t .
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Not under Cl ai bor ne. Cl ai bor ne
3 says a convi ct i on i s not t he end of t he i nqui r y. That i n
4 f act , t he panel and t he Bar have a dut y t o l ook beyond t he
5 convi ct i on.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We have a speci f i c or der i n
7 your case wi t h r espect t o what t he i ssues t o be det er mi ned
8 i n t hi s pr oceedi ng ar e wi t h r espect t o a convi ct i on. So
9 do you wi sh t o of f er evi dence as t o t he nat ur e and ext ent
10 of puni shment , i f any, t hat shoul d be r ender ed by t hi s
11 panel ?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes. And I - -
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease pr oceed.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. So I ' l l pl ay t hat audi o
15 wi t h your per mi ssi on.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msust ai ni ng t he obj ect i on
17 because i t l acks f oundat i on.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Then I ' l l cal l my mom. May I
19 appr oach t o cal l my mom?
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sur e.
21 ( Tel ephone cal l bei ng pl aced. )
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Mom, i t ' s Zach.
23 MRS. BARKER: Yeah.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Li st en, you' r e on t he r ecor d
25 r i ght now, okay? The panel can hear you. Ar e you t her e?
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1 MRS. BARKER: I ' mhavi ng t r oubl e hear i ng you.
2 But anyway - - I ' mi n a st or e. Go ahead.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e bei ng l i st ened t o r i ght
4 now and r ecor ded. Okay?
5 MRS. BARKER: I under st and t hat .
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I need t o ask you - -
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s put her under oat h.
8 Woul d you swear t he wi t ness i n, pl ease.
9 ( The oat h was admi ni st er ed t el ephoni cal l y
10 t o t he wi t ness. )
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Woul d you t el l us your f ul l
12 name and addr ess, pl ease.
13 MRS. BARKER: Mar y El eanor Bar ker . 94 - -
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Spel l your l ast name.
15 MRS. BARKER: B- a- r - k- e- r .
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And your addr ess, pl ease.
17 THE WI TNESS: 945 West 12t h St r eet .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: West what st r eet ?
19 MRS. BARKER: 12t h.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sout h?
21 MRS. BARKER: 12t h. Reno, Nevada 89503.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Thank you, Ms. Bar ker .
23 Mr . Coughl i n, you may pr oceed.
24 MRS. BARKER: No, i t ' s Bar ker .
25 MARY BARKER
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1 havi ng been f i r st dul y swor n, t est i f i ed as f ol l ows:
2 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
3 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
4 Q Mom, did you have to buy an audio of the trial
5 with that Judge Nash Holmes?
6 A Di d I have t o buy an audi o?
7 Q Yeah. Did you buy a copy of the proceeding?
8 A Yes.
9 Q Did you give it to me?
10 A Oh, God. I t hi nk so. I di d sever al t hi ngs.
11 I pai d $100 f or somet hi ng - - no, t hat was somet hi ng el se.
12 Q Right. You paid a hundred dollars for bail,
13 and she wouldn't let me out, but she kept the money
14 anyway?
15 A Yes. And t he man t hat I gave t he money t o
16 t ol d me t hat you woul d be r el eased wi t hi n sever al hour s,
17 and you wer en' t .
18 Q They did the old switcheroo, right?
19 A I ' msor r y?
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I woul d
21 appr eci at e i t i f you woul d r ef r ai n f r omi nt er r upt i ng even
22 your own mot her .
23 THE WI TNESS: Especi al l y hi s own mot her .
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I s t hat good enough?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No.
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1 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
2 Q Mom, was it an official copy?
3 A I don' t know.
4 Q Did you go to the court and say I want a copy
5 of the proceeding, and you paid the money they asked you
6 to pay?
7 A I don' t know t hat i t was of f i ci al or not . But
8 I r equest ed a copy, yes. I woul d assume i t woul d be
9 of f i ci al . I was r equest i ng i t i n t he cour t house.
10 Q And you filled out whatever form it was they
11 made you fill out, and paid whatever money it was they
12 wanted right?
13 A Yes.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o move t o admi t
15 t hat i nt o evi dence.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any f ur t her
17 quest i ons?
18 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
19 Q Mom, you paid $100 bail, and the muni court
20 kept the money but didn't let me out?
21 A Yes.
22 Q What did that Tom guy, the counter clerk, say
23 about that?
24 A When I went back on Monday, he sai d, no, he
25 shoul d have been r el eased. And I sai d, wel l , he wasn' t ,
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1 and I woul d l i ke t o get my money back. And he made a
2 phone cal l . And he sai d, I ' msor r y, but t hat ' s not
3 possi bl e.
4 Q Did he say that she had done something wrong?
5 A No. No, he di dn' t say anyt hi ng t o me l i ke
6 t hat . He j ust sai d i t was not what he expect ed. When I
7 went down t her e and pai d t he hundr ed dol l ar s, he sai d you
8 woul d be out wi t hi n t hr ee hour s. And t hat di dn' t happen.
9 And I bel i eve t hat was on a Thur sday. The cour t s wer e
10 cl osed Fr i day, so I went back on Monday t o f i nd out why
11 you wer en' t r el eased, and t o see i f I coul d get my hundr ed
12 dol l ar s back.
13 Q Did my dad say the State Bar of Nevada's Coe
14 Swobe kept hounding him, calling him up, trying to lean on
15 me so Washoe Legal Services and Paul Elcano could get
16 out --
17 A I ' msor r y, I coul d not hear t hat .
18 Q Did my dad ever tell you that the State Bar of
19 Nevada's Coe Swobe called him up trying to get him to make
20 me settle easier with Washoe Legal Services whose director
21 is friends with the chairman here, close childhood
22 friends, they both went to Stanford together, 1966?
23 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on, hear say.
24 THE WI TNESS: Your f at her t ol d me - -
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sust ai ned.
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1 THE WI TNESS: - - yes, t hey want ed you t o
2 set t l e.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Ms. Bar ker . Ther e
4 was an obj ect i on made t o t he quest i on. I ' msust ai ni ng t he
5 obj ect i on. I t ' s al so ar gument at i ve.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Mom. I don' t want t o t ake up
7 any mor e of your t i me, sweet hear t . You have bet t er t hi ngs
8 t o do. I ' mgoi ng t o l et you go. Okay?
9 THE WI TNESS: Al l r i ght . Sor r y t hi s wasn' t
10 cl ear , but now I ' mi n t he par ki ng l ot .
11 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e t he cl ear est t hi ng I ' ve
12 hear d t oday, Mom.
13 THE WI TNESS: Good l uck.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Any quest i ons, Mr . Ki ng?
15 Wel l , she hung up.
16 MR. KI NG: I have no quest i ons of t he mot her ,
17 but I woul d t hi nk i t was pat ent l y cl ear when t he di r ect
18 quest i on was, di d you gi ve me t he of f i ci al copi es, she
19 sai d I don' t know. And t hat ' s how i t was l ef t . And
20 Mr . Coughl i n does not have t he of f i ci al copi es whi ch woul d
21 be i dent i f i ed on t he di sk by t he cour t as an of f i ci al
22 copy.
23 Si nce he does not have t hemor t hey ar e - -
24 what ever he has downl oaded on t he r ecor d may not be t he
25 of f i ci al one, I woul d st i l l obj ect .
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1 Pl us, as I sai d bef or e, si nce he' s at t empt i ng
2 t o pr ove negat i ves t hat t hi s wasn' t sai d, t hi s wasn' t
3 done. Wi t hout t he abi l i t y t o r ead t he t r anscr i pt or see
4 on ei t her si de t he cont ext of l i st eni ng t o a l i t t l e bl ur b
5 t ot al l y out of cont ext i s goi ng t o pr ovi de no r el evant
6 i nf or mat i on t o you, because t her e' s no way you can say
7 wi t h a cer t ai nt y t hat ' s t he end of t he st or y. Because
8 el sewher e i n t he t r anscr i pt i t coul d be made cr yst al
9 cl ear .
10 I woul d suggest t hat Mr . Coughl i n' s ef f or t s t o
11 have you l i st en t o excer pt s, asi de f r ombei ng ver y
12 t i me- consumi ng, i s i r r el evant .
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng f ur t her t o of f er i n
14 t er ms of l ayi ng a f oundat i on?
15 MR. COUGHLI N: Penal t y of per j ur y, I ' mgoi ng
16 t o pl ay an of f i ci al copy of i t .
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' ve gi ven you t he oppor t uni t y
19 t o go r evi ew t he st uf f t o your hear t ' s cont ent i f I ' m
20 l yi ng.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ayi ng i t doesn' t l ay a
22 f oundat i on. We need a f oundat i on l ai d.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Foundat i on i s - -
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have anyt hi ng f ur t her
25 t o of f er ?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: - - I , Zach Coughl i n, under
2 penal t y of per j ur y, t hi s i s t he of f i ci al t r anscr i pt , audi o
3 t r anscr i pt .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What do you base t hat on?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: That t he cour t gave i t t o us.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No, t he cour t di dn' t .
7 MR. COUGHLI N: Thi s i s j ust amazi ng. Okay.
8 Let ' s move on.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We need t o compl y - -
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o pl ay a vi deo I
11 can pr ovi de a f oundat i on of , because I f i l med i t .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e deal i ng wi t h what ever
13 i t was you wer e goi ng t o pr of f er wi t h r espect t o t he
14 t r af f i c ci t at i on.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: We have eat en up 40 per cent of
16 my t i me wi t h t hi s. You woul dn' t l et me pl ay a copy of an
17 audi o t ape t hat I pai d money f or f r omt he cour t .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: But you haven' t l ai d a
19 f oundat i on f or i t , Mr . Coughl i n. That ' s what you don' t
20 under st and. Your mot her sai d she went and bought
21 somet hi ng. She doesn' t know i f i t ' s an of f i ci al
22 t r anscr i pt . You di dn' t est abl i sh whet her she gave i t t o
23 you or not - -
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I got an of f i ci al one f r omPat
25 Ki ng.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mor e i mpor t ant , si r , you
2 haven' t est abl i shed what you' r e about t o pl ay i s what she
3 bought .
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I f we j ust move on f r omher s.
5 I got an of f i ci al copy f r omPat Ki ng af t er we pai d f or i t
6 wi t h our money - -
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s not a f oundat i on,
8 si r .
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msayi ng I got i t f r omt he
10 St at e Bar of Nevada. Di r ect l y f r omPat Ki ng.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s not a f oundat i on.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I n t hat Mr . Ki ng t ol d me i t ' s
13 an of f i ci al copy f r omt he Reno Muni Cour t .
14 MR. KI NG: Absol ut el y not t r ue,
15 Mr . Coughl i n - -
16 MR. COUGHLI N: You ar e t est i f yi ng now, Pat .
17 I ' d l i ke hi mswor n i f he' s goi ng t o t est i f y.
18 MR. KI NG: I ' d be happy t o be swor n. And
19 t hat ' s a l i e.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, l ayi ng a
21 f oundat i on i s a r at her r udi ment ar y pr ocedur e.
22 MR. KI NG: Sor r y.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I do not bel i eve you have
24 l ai d a pr oper f oundat i on - -
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' l l move on.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - pr oper t o pl ay. So I ' m
2 sust ai ni ng t he obj ect i on t o pl ayi ng what ever i t was you' r e
3 goi ng t o pl ay, and pr oceed.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. I ' d l i ke t o pl ay an
5 of f i ci al copy of t he t r anscr i pt f r omt hat Reno Muni Cour t
6 t r af f i c ci t at i on case.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' ve al r eady pr of f er ed
8 t hat . I ' ve sust ai ned t he obj ect i on.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' d l i ke t o pl ay a copy of a
10 vi deo I t ook of Ser geant Lopez admi t t i ng cer t ai n t hi ngs
11 wi t h r espect t o t he cr i mi nal t r espass.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng?
13 MR. KI NG: I woul d obj ect t o t he ext ent t hat
14 Mr . Coughl i n i s t r yi ng t o suggest i n any way t hat he
15 wasn' t gui l t y of t he cr i mi nal t r espass, because he was
16 convi ct ed and exhaust ed hi s appeal r i ght s. And t o r et r y
17 t hat I t hi nk shoul dn' t occur her e.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r el evance of t hi s - -
19 MR. KI NG: To t he ef f ect he want s t o pr oduce
20 i t f or some ot her r eason, I t hi nk he woul d need t o expl ai n
21 speci f i cal l y what t hat r eason i s. I f i t goes t o whet her
22 or not he' s gui l t y of a cr i mi nal t r espass, I woul d say
23 i t ' s not r el evant .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And your r el evance,
25 Mr . Coughl i n?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o gi ve you t he
2 30- mi nut e not i ce t hat I woul d l i ke t o cr oss- exami ne J udge
3 Nash Hol mes and Ri char d Hi l l or cal l t hemi n my case i n
4 chi ef , r at her . I ' l l do t hat now. I not e t hat I have a
5 t i me of 2: 55.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ri ght now we' r e deal i ng wi t h
7 t he r el evancy of a vi deot ape t hat you cl ai mt o have t aken.
8 And how i s t hat r el evant ?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Because i t goes t o r ebut
10 ever yt hi ng t hat you deemr el evant t o whi ch Ri char d Hi l l
11 t est i f i ed.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Ever yt hi ng?
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s cont ai ned i n t hi s
15 pr of f er ed vi deo?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Ther e' s a coupl e of t hem.
17 Ther e' s vi deo of t he ar r est , t he t r espass ar r est . The
18 di scussi on bet ween mysel f and Ri char d Hi l l , and hi s
19 cl i ent , and t he pol i ce of f i cer s. Then - - and t hat was - -
20 and t hen t her e i s a vi deo of a coupl e mont hs l at er of me
21 i nt er vi ewi ng Ser geant Lopez about whet her or not t hey
22 i dent i f i ed t hemsel ves as pol i ce of f i cer s bef or e t he door
23 was ki cked i n, or whet her t hey i ssued a l awf ul war ni ng t o
24 l eave.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Those ar e r el evant t o what
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1 i ssue t hat t hi s panel i s t o det er mi ne?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: You l i st ened t o Ri char d Hi l l go
3 on and on about what he t hi nks about me and my candor and
4 compet ency. And t hese vi deos show he' s a f r i cki ng l i ar .
5 Then i t bear s on t he l egi t i macy of hi s t est i mony.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I asked you t o speci f i cal l y
7 addr ess what por t i on of hi s t est i mony t hi s addr essed. You
8 sai d ever yt hi ng?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He al so t est i f i ed t o us how
11 l ong he' s been pr act i ci ng l aw. Does t hi s vi deo i mpeach
12 t hat ?
13 MR. COUGHLI N: I t i mpeaches t he ext ent t o
14 whi ch put t i ng a number of year s behi nd how l ong somebody
15 has been pr act i ci ng l aw somehow i s det er mi nat i ve of
16 anyt hi ng or bear i ng some sor t of i ndi cat i on of t he
17 l egi t i macy or compet ency or f i del i t y t o t he pr i nci pl e t hat
18 t hi s Bar i s supposed t o uphol d, but whi ch some peopl e
19 mi ght say i t doesn' t seemas t o a l ot of t he t i me.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng el se?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I t al so goes t o mi t i gat i on, I
22 t hi nk.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: How so?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t pl aces me i n a l ot
25 mor e sympat het i c l i ght t o t he ext ent t hat i t shows pol i ce
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1 mi sconduct .
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng?
3 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, t her e has been a
4 mul t i t ude of vi deos t aken by Mr . Coughl i n. Some you mi ght
5 r ecal l when he was i n hi s bedr oomi n hi s paj amas, and he
6 was t al ki ng about t hi ngs l i ke Mr . Hi l l t aki ng br i bes. He
7 post ed i nf or mat i on about cour t per sonnel , t hei r sal ar i es,
8 et cet er a. Those, al l of t hose YouTube, have been t aken
9 of f of YouTube by Mr . Coughl i n so t hey cannot be accessed.
10 I have vi ewed a vi deot ape of Mr . Coughl i n and
11 t he 9- 1- 1 cal l s wher e ever y ot her wor d out of hi s mout h i s
12 st ar t i ng wi t h F- you t o t he pol i ce of f i cer s.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: Obj ect i on. Lack of f oundat i on.
14 MR. KI NG: However , i t ' s not admi t t ed i n t hi s
15 case - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me.
17 Mr . Coughl i n, I ' ve t r i ed t o be ver y pat i ent i n
18 t er ms of your i nt er r upt i ons. You cont i nue t o do so. Can
19 you f i nd i t wi t hi n your sel f t o r ef r ai n f r omdoi ng t hat ?
20 You wi l l have ever y oppor t uni t y t o r espond. But I do not
21 appr eci at e your cont i nui ng i nt er r upt i ons of vi r t ual l y
22 ever y per son t hat speaks, i ncl udi ng your mot her . So
23 pl ease r ef r ai n f r omdoi ng i t .
24 Pr oceed, Mr . Ki ng.
25 MR. KI NG: I n r evi ew of some of t he excer pt ed
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1 vi deos t hat Mr . Coughl i n submi t t ed t o me, t hey ar e cut ,
2 and I don' t know t he wor d, because I can' t do i t , I ' mnot
3 an edi t or , but t hey' r e not compl et e, t hey don' t show t he
4 st or y. And I suspect t hat what ever he' s goi ng t o show you
5 woul d put hi mi n a mor e sympat het i c l i ght , because I
6 suspect he' s t aken out al l of t he der ogat or y t hi ngs he
7 sai d t o t he pol i ce of f i cer s.
8 Mor e i mpor t ant , t hose wer e not par t of my case
9 agai nst Mr . Coughl i n. I di d not al l ege i n t he compl ai nt
10 t hat he abused t he pol i ce of f i cer s, or r esi st ed ar r est , or
11 used pr of ani t y wi t h t he pol i ce of f i cer s. I sai d he was
12 convi ct ed of t hef t , convi ct ed of cr i mi nal t r espass, and
13 has demonst r at ed her e a pat t er n of cont empt f or t he cour t ,
14 and a l ack of abi l i t y t o pr act i ce l aw.
15 What Mr . Coughl i n i s at t empt i ng t o do i s t o
16 st eer you back t o whet her or not he was gui l t y of t he
17 cr i mes of whi ch he was convi ct ed, and t o show you t hat
18 per haps somebody wi t hi n t he ar r est pr ocess ei t her di d or
19 di dn' t f ol l ow al l of t hei r pr ocedur es, whi ch ar e
20 i r r el evant t o t hi s pr oceedi ng.
21 And so I woul d j ust say t hat because t he vi deo
22 excer pt s t hat he i nt ends t o pl ay ar e suspect , and t her e' s
23 nobody t o t est i f y t hat t hey' r e t he compl et e or accur at e
24 vi deos ot her t han Mr . Coughl i n hi msel f . I t hi nk t hey' r e
25 i r r el evant , and i n t hi s case woul d be hi ghl y pr ej udi ci al ,
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1 pl us a wast e of t i me.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng f ur t her ?
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Your Honor , i f I coul d j ust
4 ent er f or t he r ecor d. Mr . J ohnson' s been on hi s smar t
5 phone t hr oughout t hi s pr oceedi ng. I mean you no
6 di sr espect , si r . Maybe he doesn' t f eel much of a
7 connect i on t o what ' s goi ng on her e t oday. And I woul d
8 i ndi cat e t hat t o t he ext ent t hat t hi s i s pr esent ed as a
9 panel , and somehow some sor t of consensus t her eby
10 suggest ed, I woul d j ust ent er f or t he r ecor d, Mr . J ohnson
11 does not seemt o f i nd much of a consensus bei ng f ound her e
12 t oday. So much so t hat he' s been on hi s smar t phone
13 t hr oughout t hi s pr oceedi ng. And I ' mj ust goi ng not at e
14 t hat f or t he r ecor d.
15 MR. KI NG: I f I can r espond br i ef l y.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So f ar you' ve at t acked me.
17 Now you' ve at t acked Mr . J ohnson. Do you wi sh t o at t ack
18 any ot her panel member ?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I do not f i nd t hat I ' ve
20 at t acked anybody, si r . I f i nd t hat I ' ve demonst r at ed my
21 f i del i t y t o f undament al not i ons of due pr ocess and f ai r
22 pl ay.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s r et ur n t o t he vi deo
24 t hat you cl ai mt o have t aken t hat you now i nt end t o
25 pr of f er . I s i t a vi deo of your ar r est t hat ul t i mat el y l ed
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1 t o your convi ct i on f or cr i mi nal t r espass?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Not t he one of t he admi ssi on by
3 Ser geant Lopez.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s i t t hat you i nt end t o
5 pl ay of Ser geant Lopez?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: A vi deo wher e I ' maski ng her
7 some st uf f about pol i ce mi sconduct .
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pol i ce mi sconduct . That ' s
9 not an i ssue her e.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I nci dent t o t he Ri char d Hi l l
11 deal .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' l l r ul e i t as i r r el evant .
13 Pr oceed.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. Can I pl ay a vi deo
15 wher e, i nci dent t o t he Wal mar t convi ct i on, i t shows t hat I
16 di d gi ve my dr i ver ' s l i cense t o t he of f i cer , t he t r i bal
17 of f i cer , and t hat gi ven t hat hi s t est i mony at t r i al was
18 t hat t he onl y r eason he was al l owed t o ef f ect uat e an
19 ar r est was my l ack of gi vi ng hi mmy dr i ver ' s l i cense.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That i s not an i ssue f or t hi s
21 panel t o det er mi ne. The supr eme cour t speci f i cal l y
22 di r ect ed t hat t he onl y i ssues wi t h r espect t o t hat
23 convi ct i on was t he nat ur e and ext ent of puni shment . We' r e
24 not goi ng t o r el i t i gat e your convi ct i on f or t hef t .
25 MR. COUGHLI N: So t he - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Next , Mr . Coughl i n.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I ent er my obj ect i on?
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I ent er my obj ect i on or
5 basi s f or my obj ect i on?
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Basi s f or your obj ect i on t o
7 your own?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Want i ng t o put t hat i n an of f er
9 of pr oof , I guess. Somet hi ng l i ke t hat . Have you r ead
10 t he Cl ai bor ne case?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Does t hat have any
13 appl i cabi l i t y her e?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgover ned by t he case t hat
15 t he supr eme cour t deci ded wi t h r espect t o Zachar y Bar ker
16 Coughl i n i n whi ch t hey t el l us t hat t he onl y i ssue t hat
17 t hi s panel i s t o det er mi ne i s what t he nat ur e and ext ent
18 of t he puni shment i s f l owi ng f r omyour convi ct i on f or
19 t hef t . We' r e not t o addr ess t he under l yi ng i ssues
20 i nvol vi ng t hat convi ct i on.
21 MR. COUGHLI N: How ar e you addr essi ng so many
22 i ssues compl et el y di vor ced f r omt hat Wal mar t t hef t case?
23 How di d you do t hat t oday?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mdeal i ng
25 wi t h one i ssue at a t i me. You have pr of f er ed a vi deot ape
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1 t hat t he supr eme cour t t el l s us i s not r el evant . Pr oceed
2 wi t h your next wi t ness.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' d l i ke t o of f er i nt o evi dence
4 my ex par t e emer gency mot i on and t he DVD at t achment t o i t .
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch one? You at t empt ed t o
6 f ax sever al t o me, one of whi ch was l abel ed emer gency ex
7 par t e mot i on t hat appar ent l y was 32 pages of whi ch I onl y
8 r ecei ved t hr ee.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: You onl y r ecei ved t hr ee?
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Cor r ect .
11 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d t he St at e Bar get i t ?
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You at t empt ed t o f ax i t t o my
13 of f i ce on f our di f f er ent occasi ons.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: And al l f our t i mes di d you guys
15 r ej ect i t somehow or ot her wi se keep i t f r omgoi ng t hr ough?
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I t was sent t o my of f i ce
17 af t er busi ness hour s. Ther e was no one manni ng t he f ax
18 machi ne, so no one coul d have i nt er r upt ed t he
19 t r ansmi ssi on.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: And i t j ust di dn' t go t hr ough?
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: None of your f axes went
22 t hr ough. The f i r st one was one of 362 pages t hat you
23 at t empt ed t o f ax on November 8t h at 4: 50 i n t he af t er noon.
24 We r ecei ved t wo of t hem. Appar ent l y t he second page of
25 t hat one was ent i t l ed, Wel l Woul d You.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: Al l r i ght . Wel l , I gave t he
2 St at e Bar copi es of i t , and you sai d t hey f or war ded i t on
3 t o you.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Si r , what speci f i cal l y i s t he
5 ex par t e mot i on t hat you now wi sh t o of f er as evi dence?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I wi sh t o of f er t he one I gave
7 t he St at e Bar f i l ed November 13t h.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Fi l ed yest er day?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , I mean, I obj ect t o t he
10 way t he St at e Bar i s r epr esent i ng cer t ai n t hi ngs t o me
11 wi t h r espect t o how I can submi t t hi ngs, t hen t hey back
12 out of i t . J ust l i ke t hey back out of whet her t hey ar e
13 goi ng t o use t he 823 cer t i f i ed mai l i ng t o pr ove ser vi ce.
14 They have l i ed ext ensi vel y t o me t hr oughout t hi s
15 pr oceedi ng.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let me ask you a quest i on,
17 si r . On August 23r d t he St at e Bar sent by cer t i f i ed mai l
18 and f i r st cl ass mai l a copy of t he compl ai nt . You wer e
19 of f er ed 20 days t o r espond. The r ul es r equi r e a r esponse
20 or an answer ver i f i ed wi t hi n 20 days. That appar ent l y
21 di dn' t ar r i ve.
22 I t hen ent er ed an or der gr ant i ng you unt i l
23 Fr i day, Febr uar y 9t h - - I ' msor r y, November 9t h at 5: 00
24 P. M. t o f i l e a ver i f i ed answer or r esponse.
25 Do you cl ai mt o have f i l ed such a ver i f i ed
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1 answer or r esponse?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot sur e. I bel i eve t hat
3 cal l s f or a l egal concl usi on. I don' t know t hat I know
4 exact l y what t echni cal l y a ver i f i ed answer r esponse means.
5 I t hi nk a mot i on t o di smi ss mi ght qual i f y as t hat .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you under st and what a
7 ver i f i ed r esponse i s?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s somet hi ng I woul d l i ke t o
9 do mor e r esear ch on. I woul d i magi ne i t i nvol ves a
10 decl ar at i on or maybe an af f i davi t . But t hen t hat get s
11 i nt o t he ext ent t o whi ch pr o se f or sel f - r epr esent i ng
12 par t i es - - and J udge Nash Hol mes pur por t ed t o do t hi s,
13 wher e she t r i ed t o make t hose r epr esent i ng t hemsel ves be
14 subj ect t o swor n t est i mony t o one ext ent or anot her ,
15 al t hough she was ver y - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e not t al ki ng about Nash
17 Hol mes her e. I ' maski ng you i f you cl ai mt o have f i l ed a
18 ver i f i ed r esponse or answer t o t he compl ai nt .
19 MR. COUGHLI N: To answer t hat I woul d have t o
20 know how one i s abl e t o f i l e somet hi ng. And t hat ' s
21 i nvol ved r epr esent at i on by Cl er k Pet er s and Mr . Ki ng and
22 t he Bar t hat , I bel i eve, have been gone back on.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Si r , I ' d l i ke you t o f ocus on
24 whet her or not you bel i eve you f i l ed a ver i f i ed answer or
25 r esponse t o t he compl ai nt .
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: At al l ? At any t i me?
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes. Pr i or t o November 9t h,
3 whi ch i s - -
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I f I can j ust - -
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - t wo mont hs and a coupl e
6 weeks af t er t he compl ai nt . I n t hat i nt er i mdi d you f i l e
7 anyt hi ng t hat you woul d cal l a ver i f i ed answer or
8 r esponse?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: And you' r e sua spont e aski ng me
10 t hi s?
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' maski ng i t .
12 MR. COUGHLI N: And t hat ' s t aki ng up my t i me t o
13 put on my case, as I had hoped t o put i t on.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' maski ng you at t he st ar t
15 of your case, appar ent l y, because you j ust pr of f er ed
16 somet hi ng you f i l ed on November 13t h. I ' mi nt er est ed i n
17 l ear ni ng whet her you bel i eve - -
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk I - -
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - you have compl i ed wi t h t he
20 supr eme cour t r ul e t hat r equi r es t he r espondent i n a
21 compl i ant by t he St at e Bar t o f i l e a ver i f i ed answer or
22 r esponse t o t he compl ai nt . Have you done so?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I bel i eve I have.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What pl eadi ng i s t hat ?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I bel i eve var i ous di f f er ent
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1 pl eadi ngs coul d be char act er i zed as such.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch ones?
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o l ook i nt o t hat
4 mor e.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you st i l l have conf usi on
6 as t o what ver i f i ed means?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t ' s somet hi ng t hat can
8 mean di f f er ent t hi ngs i n di f f er ent set t i ngs. So I ' mnot
9 sur e who we' r e t al ki ng about , who i t means what t o.
10 Then I t hi nk t hat goes a l ar ge ext ent t o how
11 t he pr ocedur al r ul es appl y her e. Because i f you f i l e a
12 mot i on t o di smi ss, and i t wi nds up j ammi ng you up f or
13 t i me. And Mr . Ki ng i s abl e t o mani pul at e t hi s pr ocess
14 such t hat he' s t he one who pi cks t he hear i ng dat e. He i s
15 t he one who set s up t he not i ce of hear i ng way bef or e t he
16 panel i s even empanel ed. Then I get j ammed up or t he
17 chai r man who i s r ul i ng on t hi ngs bef or e I even have an
18 oppor t uni t y t o f i l e a r epl y t o hi s opposi t i on.
19 And t hen one, I ' l l t est i f y under penal t y of
20 per j ur y I di dn' t get t he not i ce of i nt ent t o t ake def aul t .
21 I ' l l t est i f y t hat I went t o t he Uni t ed St at es Post Of f i ce
22 and at t empt ed t o pi ck up on at l east - - on mul t i pl e
23 occasi ons. On one occasi on a Ti mat t he Vassar st at i on i n
24 downt own Reno appar ent l y coul dn' t f i nd t he envel ope. The
25 next t i me I went back, he di d f i nd t he envel ope t hat had a
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1 post mar k dat e of 10- 9- 12, Oct ober 9t h, 2012, and i t had
2 post age of about 1. 25. I t was a cer t i f i ed mai l i ng upon
3 i nf or mat i on and bel i ef i t was t he not i ce of i nt ent t o t ake
4 def aul t .
5 I ' l l not e t hat i n t he f i l e t hat was gi ven t o
6 me by Mr . Ki ng t hi s cer t i f i cat e of mai l i ng on t hat
7 document i ndi cat es i t was sent by onl y one met hod,
8 cer t i f i ed mai l . Wher e I bel i eve ever y ot her document ' s
9 been sent , i f you l ook at t he cer t i f i cat es of mai l i ng
10 at t ached at t he end of t he document s has been sent i n
11 t wo - - by t wo met hods, f i r st cl ass mai l and cer t i f i ed
12 mai l .
13 So i t ' s a l i t t l e st r ange t hat not i ce of i nt ent
14 t o t ake def aul t - - maybe t hi s i s some ki nd of ol d school
15 Bar counsel t r i ck. I don' t know. But i t was onl y sent by
16 one met hod, cer t i f i ed mai l . So I go t o pi ck i t up once,
17 t he guy doesn' t f i nd i t . I go t he next week, and t hi s i s
18 t he guy Ti m- -
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: How di d you know t o pi ck i t
20 up?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Because I got t he l i t t l e sl i p.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Okay.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: And t hen t he next t i me he di d
24 f i nd i t . And r i ght bef or e he gave i t t o me he not i ced
25 t hat i t onl y has - - i t ' s a l ar ge mani l a envel ope, he
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1 not i ced i t onl y has $1. 25 post age on i t . That means i t ' s
2 i nsuf f i ci ent post age, and he won' t gi ve i t t o me unl ess I
3 pay t he di f f er ence, whi ch i s l i ke some f i ve dol l ar s t hat I
4 don' t have. So i t get s sent back.
5 I check t he USPS and conf i r mf or t hat number ,
6 and Mr . Ki ng and t he St at e Bar r ecei ved i t on November
7 9t h. Mr . Ki ng' s been ver y, ver y evasi ve about t hi s, and I
8 bel i eve ver y di shonest .
9 I saw Ti mnot at e t he i nsuf f i ci ency of post age.
10 Yest er day Mr . Ki ng t ol d me he di dn' t see anyt hi ng about
11 i nsuf f i ci ency of post age on t he envel ope. And t he whol e
12 poi nt i s I never got not i ce of i nt ent t o t ake def aul t .
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You r epl i ed t o i t .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: What ' s t hat ?
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You r epl i ed t o i t .
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I r epl i ed t o your or der s.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No, you r epl i ed bef or e I
18 ent er ed t he or der . You r epl i ed and pr ovi ded your own
19 wi t ness l i st t hat par r ot ed t he wi t ness l i st - -
20 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t ' s pr obabl y - - sor r y.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - t hat par r ot ed t he wi t ness
22 l i st t hat t he St at e Bar pr of f er ed, you f i l ed your own.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk I was r epl yi ng t o t he
24 wi t ness l i st , t he DowSoE.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And t hat came wi t h t he not i ce
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1 of i nt ent t o t ake def aul t .
2 MR. COUGHLI N: No. The DowSoE - - al ong wi t h
3 t he DowSoE t hey sent a not i ce of hear i ng. Yeah, not i ce of
4 hear i ng. And t hi s i s pur suant t o SCR 1052( c) . I t says
5 t he panel af t er bei ng empanel ed shal l pr ovi de at l east 30
6 days f r omwhen i t , t he panel , not Bar counsel , ser ves t he
7 DowSoE and t he not i ce of hear i ng by t he same met hod i n
8 whi ch t he compl ai nt i s ser ved. Whi ch under SCR 109 can be
9 by cer t i f i ed mai l .
10 Al t hough I don' t bel i eve i t can be when, and
11 I ' l l t est i f y under penal t y of per j ur y on t he phone, i f not
12 al so i n wr i t i ng, Cl er k Pet er s t ol d me I coul d r el y on t he
13 f act , I coul d bank on i t t hat t he St at e Bar of Nevada
14 woul d not asser t t hat 8- 23- 12 cer t i f i ed mai l i ng woul d be
15 pr of f er ed as af f ect i ng ser vi ce of t he compl ai nt on me i n
16 any way at any t i me.
17 At t hat t i me on t he phone, I ' mswear i ng t hi s
18 under penal t y of per j ur y, she sai d we ar e goi ng t o send i t
19 out t o you agai n, t he cer t i f i ed mai l i ng.
20 I act ual l y under t ook a l ot of r esear ch i n t hi s
21 r egar d, because t her e i s case l aw t hat says when t he
22 Bar - - not i n t hi s j ur i sdi ct i on. But when t he Bar sends
23 you a cer t i f i ed mai l i ng, I t hi nk t hey can say wi t hi n t hr ee
24 days you ar e ser ved, whet her you ever pi cked i t up or not ,
25 you know. So I was wor r i ed about t hat , you know.
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1 But I cal l ed and t al ked t o Cl er k Pet er s. And
2 I bel i eve when a cour t , par t i cul ar l y a cl er k of cour t ,
3 makes an expr ess expl i ci t r epr esent at i on t o you t hat you
4 can r el y on somet hi ng, t hat you' r e ent i t l ed t o, you know.
5 And I t hi nk i t ' s - - i t doesn' t set a good pr ecedent f or
6 t he St at e Bar t o essent i al l y be pul l i ng t he r ug out f r om
7 under peopl e l i ke me.
8 At t hat t i me on, I bel i eve i t was Sept ember
9 11t h, she sai d, oh, I got back t hat cer t i f i ed mai l i ng of
10 t he compl ai nt . That was, I guess, sent 8- 23, t he dat e
11 t hat i t ' s st amped, t he compl ai nt . She got i t back. She
12 sai d i t was r et ur ned as undel i ver ed or somet hi ng. And I
13 sai d you t hi nk Pat i s goi ng t o t r y t o t ake a def aul t ?
14 Thi s or t hat ? And she sai d def i ni t i vel y, no, we' l l not do
15 t hat . You ar e not ser ved - - she sai d, I bel i eve, and I
16 woul d l i ke t o check my not es, but she sai d you' r e not
17 ser ved unt i l we get t hat si gnat ur e on t he t hi ng. And i f
18 we don' t get t he si gnat ur e on t he t hi ng af t er t he second
19 t i me we' r e goi ng t o mai l i t t o you, t hen we' l l send out
20 f or ser vi ce a not i ce of i nt ent t o t ake def aul t . And onl y
21 upon t hat not bei ng pi cked up woul d, I guess, a def aul t be
22 t aken.
23 So I f el t compl et el y ent i t l ed t o r el y upon
24 t hat . However , Mr . Ki ng, and t hi s i s f ound i n Laur a
25 Pet er s' af f i davi t I f ound i n t he f i l e t hat I have onl y si x
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1 days t o r evi ew.
2 Mr . Ki ng has coyl y pr event ed me f r omaccessi ng
3 t hi s f i l e si nce Mar ch. Yes, he gave me some audi o, and I
4 appr eci at e t hat . I don' t appr eci at e t he ext ent t o whi ch
5 he' s pr event i ng me f r omget t i ng i t i nt o t he r ecor d her e
6 t oday. Par t i cul ar l y wher e i t ' s somet hi ng r eal l y
7 di sgust i ng goi ng on. Wher e t he j udge i s sayi ng somet hi ng
8 t hat ' s j ust not t r ue. I t ' s j ust not t r ue.
9 Penal t y of per j ur y, i t i s compl et el y f al se f or
10 her t o say t hat she asked me i f I was r ecor di ng or had a
11 r ecor di ng devi ce at any t i me pr i or t o t he one bat hr oom
12 br eak. That ' s j ust not t r ue.
13 Ther e was a bat hr oombr eak. And i mmedi at el y
14 af t er I got back f r omt hat bat hr oombr eak she st ar t s
15 i nt er r ogat i ng me sua spont e about r ecor di ng.
16 I shoul d say - - I woul d l i ke t o pl ay i t f or
17 you t o know exact l y what was sai d, exact l y what my
18 r esponse was - -
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, we have al r eady
20 addr essed t hat i ssue. So now we' r e on - - I have been
21 t r yi ng t o det er mi ne f r omyou whet her you bel i eve you have
22 f i l ed a ver i f i ed answer or r esponse t o t he compl ai nt at
23 any t i me. And you i ndi cat ed you' l l have t o r esear ch t hat
24 i ssue, and I ' l l af f or d you t hat oppor t uni t y. Because,
25 qui t e f r ankl y, I have not seen anyt hi ng t hat you f i l ed
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1 t hat has been ver i f i ed.
2 So l et ' s go on wi t h your next wi t ness. I ' m
3 af f or di ng you t he oppor t uni t y of put t i ng on a case - -
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o t est i f y i n a
5 nar r at i ve.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y. I keep t al ki ng - -
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' msor r y, si r . I r eal l y am.
8 I ' msor r y. I don' t mean t o do i t . That i s a hal l mar k of
9 ADD, si r . I t i s.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So we have not conduct ed t hi s
11 hear i ng as a def aul t hear i ng, i n def er ence t o you.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I appr eci at e t hat .
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So now I ' maski ng you t o
14 pr of f er your next evi dence.
15 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' d l i ke t o j ust t est i f y i n t he
16 nar r at i ve, i f I may, si r .
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You want t o t est i f y?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Fi r st can I admi t i nt o evi dence
19 t hese mat er i al s?
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch mat er i al s?
21 MR. COUGHLI N: The t hi ng I t r i ed t o f i l e, t he
22 ex par t e emer gency mot i on wi t h t he DVDs at t ached.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi ch ex par t e mot i on?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: The one t hat bear s - - wel l , t wo
25 of t hem. One t hat bear s a f i l e st amp of Oct ober 31st , t he
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1 pr ehear i ng mot i on t o di smi ss, summar y j udgment , memor andum
2 of l aw, whi ch I bel i eve coul d be - -
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I s t hat t he one wi t h t he
4 handwr i t t en capt i on?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What appear s t o be an appeal
7 f r omt he St at e of Nevada ver sus - - I ' msor r y?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I f i l ed t hi s. I pr epar ed t hi s
9 t o be basi cal l y a mot i on f or a new t r i al i n t he t r espass
10 case. But I ' ve been oper at i ng on l i t t l e sl eep pr epar i ng
11 f or a pet t y l ar ceny t r i al , pr epar i ng f or t hi s. And I
12 st ar t ed t o get scar ed t hat I wasn' t get t i ng somet hi ng i n
13 t he r ecor d on t hi s.
14 And so I j ust sai d, you know what , you' r e
15 cr ossi ng t hat out , and you' r e f i l i ng t hi s i n t he St at e Bar
16 so you get somet hi ng.
17 So I t hi nk t hi s coul d be char act er i zed as a
18 ver i f i ed r esponse. And I do appr eci at e t he ext ent - - I
19 bel i eve you made a l aw of t he case now t hat you' r e not
20 t al ki ng a def aul t on me her e.
21 And I bel i eve - - I ' d l i ke t o l ook at my
22 r ecor ds mor e, but I bel i eve I was t ol d I coul d f ax f i l e at
23 l east , i f not al so e- mai l f i l e by Cl er k Pet er s.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What you f i l ed wi t h t he St at e
25 Bar i s one t hi ng. You asked me ear l i er i f I had consent ed
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1 t o bei ng ser ved by e- mai l , and I have not . You asked, and
2 I have - - nor have I consent ed t o bei ng ser ved by f ax. I
3 bel i eve al l document s t hat you need t o f i l e shoul d be
4 f i l ed wi t h t he St at e Bar , and t hen t hey can pr ovi de t hem
5 t o us.
6 But you' ve at t empt ed t o f i l e, and you' ve
7 i ndi cat ed you' ve had l i t t l e t i me t o wor k on t hi s, but you
8 have at t empt ed t o f ax t o my of f i ce i n excess of 700 pages
9 of document s. That ' s qui t e a l ot of document s t hat , at
10 l east f r ommy exper i ence, r equi r es a l ot of t i me t o
11 pr epar e. So I t ake i t a l i t t l e bi t di si ngenuousl y t hat
12 you' r e compl ai ni ng about a l ack of t i me.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: No, t hat ' s not what I meant ,
14 si r . I ' msor r y. I di dn' t mean t o i nt er r upt you. I spent
15 al l my t i me on t hi s. I di dn' t mean i t l i ke t hat .
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Unf or t unat el y, you haven' t
17 deemed i t necessar y t o f i l e a ver i f i ed answer or r esponse
18 t hat I can i dent i f y as a ver i f i ed answer or r esponse. You
19 have f i l ed document s ent i t l ed, Wow, Woul d You Look At
20 That . You f i l ed - -
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I ask what Mr . Ki ng i s
22 doi ng r i ght now?
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - i n r esponse t o t hi s - -
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I s t hi s appr opr i at e, Mr . Ki ng,
25 dur i ng my case f or you t o be wal ki ng ar ound handi ng out
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1 pamphl et s?
2 MR. KI NG: To t he ext ent , Mr . Coughl i n - - i f
3 you don' t mi nd, Mr . Chai r man - - t o t he ext ent you' r e
4 maki ng r epr esent at i ons of what t he St at e Bar sai d - -
5 MR. COUGHLI N: You' ve been br eaki ng me down
6 al l day f or not f ol l owi ng pr ocess, and he j ust get s up and
7 i s doi ng t hat , and you don' t say anyt hi ng.
8 MR. KI NG: The e- mai l you say Mr . Ki ng - -
9 MR. COUGHLI N: - - sl ammi ng me al l day.
10 MR. KI NG: I f I can make t he r ecor d,
11 Mr . Chai r man. A l et t er t hat was f axed t o me - -
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I obj ect .
13 MR. KI NG: - - Mr . Coughl i n, whi ch says,
14 Mr . Ki ng, t hi s i s t he f i r st I ' ve hear d of you want i ng a
15 physi cal addr ess f or me, i n cont r avent i on of Rul e 79 whi ch
16 r equi r es t hat he pr ovi de an addr ess.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s addr ess t hat af t er
18 Mr . Coughl i n makes hi s poi nt , whi ch I ' mt r yi ng t o get hi m
19 t o do succi nct l y, but whi ch I ' mf ai l i ng at .
20 I ' mi nt er est ed now, do you have any f ur t her
21 evi dence t o of f er i n your case?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s i t ?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o submi t t hese
25 mat er i al s I pr epar ed i nt o evi dence. I f i t ' s a case of you
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1 f eel I haven' t ver i f i ed t hem, and I t hi nk some of t hat
2 mi ght be due t o t he di f f i cul t y i nher ent t o
3 sel f - r epr esent at i on wher e - - i t ' s l i ke Mr . Ki ng i sn' t
4 f i l i ng t hi ngs under penal t y of per j ur y. And I gat her t hat
5 t he cl i ent needs t o si gn a ver i f i cat i on - -
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r ul e i s ver y speci f i c
7 t hat says t he at t or ney agai nst whoma gr i evance i s made
8 and a compl ai nt i s f i l ed, t he at t or ney, t hat at t or ney,
9 must f i l e a ver i f i ed r esponse.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I f I hi r e Davi d Gr undy t o
11 r epr esent me, t hen I st i l l have t o si gn somet hi ng t hat
12 at t aches t o Davi d Gr undy t he answer he f i l es f or me sayi ng
13 I ver i f y yes t hat t he f act ual asser t i ons i n her e ar e t r ue?
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes.
15 MR. KI NG: Obj ect i on. Hypot het i cal .
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. I ' l l do t hat r i ght now.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I ' maski ng i f you f i l ed
18 t hat . And you' ve i ndi cat ed, one, you' r e not sur e what
19 ver i f i ed means. And t wo, t hat you need t o r esear ch i t .
20 So what i s your next pi ece of evi dence you
21 i nt end t o of f er , si r ?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: I i nt end t o t ake t hese
23 mat er i al s t hat I have al r eady f i l ed and say I decl ar e
24 under penal t y of per j ur y, NRS 53. 045, t hat t he asser t i ons
25 her ei n ar e t r ue and cor r ect t o t he best of my knowl edge,
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1 except f or t hose mat er i al s based on i nf or mat i on and
2 bel i ef .
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And a ver i f i cat i on cannot be
4 made on i nf or mat i on and bel i ef . So i s ever yt hi ng i n t her e
5 t r ue and cor r ect ?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: I f I had hi r ed Davi d Gr undy, I
7 don' t t hi nk t hat woul d be t he st andar d. Because Davi d
8 Gr undy coul d st and i n my st ead and si gn i t under NRCP 11.
9 MR. KI NG: No, he coul dn' t .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s t he next pi ece you
11 have t o of f er , Mr . Coughl i n?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: You know what t hough? Thi s
13 st uf f i s t r ue, you know. Some of i t ' s opi ni on, you know.
14 But do you t hi nk you f i l e t hi s much st uf f i f you ar e
15 l yi ng? You know. Do I st r i ke you as somebody who woul d
16 l i e a l ot or do I st r i ke you as somebody t hat doesn' t have
17 much of a f i l t er and maybe t el l s t he t r ut h t oo much?
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ' s your next pi ece of
19 evi dence?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e not l et t i ng me admi t
21 t hi s ei t her ?
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You st i l l haven' t i dent i f i ed,
23 because I have seen at l east t hr ee document s ent i t l ed an
24 ex par t e mot i on, and you haven' t i dent i f i ed whi ch one i t
25 i s yet .
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: Ex par t e mot i on. Okay.
2 MR. KI NG: I woul d obj ect on t wo gr ounds.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s i dent i f y what i t i s
4 he' s of f er i ng. I st i l l don' t know.
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o of f er t hi s one
6 t hat has a f i l e st amp of Oct ober 31st , 2012, pr ehear i ng
7 mot i on t o di smi ss summar y j udgment , memor andumof l aw.
8 I ' l l i nt er l i neat e ver i f i ed r esponse.
9 MR. KI NG: Don' t change i t now, Mr . Coughl i n.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' l l get a - -
11 MR. KI NG: I t ' s al r eady st amp f i l ed. I don' t
12 want you t o al t er a f i l e copy.
13 MR. COUGHLI N: - - a new f i l e st amp on i t .
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You have j ust added some
15 wr i t i ng t o t hat document t hat was l odged wi t h t he St at e
16 Bar on Oct ober 31?
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s t he one dat ed Sept ember
19 12t h?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: No. I r eal l y don' t see you
21 ni t pi cki ng Pat Ki ng l i ke t hi s. And Pat Ki ng vi ol at ed
22 ever y aspect of SCR 1052( c) . Ever y aspect . And I don' t
23 see you ni t pi cki ng hi ma bi t .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t wi l l ser ve you bet t er i f
25 you di d not exhi bi t such anger and cont empt f or t he panel .
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1 I ' mt r yi ng t o i dent i f y, si r , because I have
2 seen at l east t wo f i l i ngs t hat ar e t he handwr i t t en
3 i t er at i on of t he capt i on t hat t he or i gi nal capt i on i s i n a
4 St at e cour t pr oceedi ng wher ei n you' r e a def endant wher e
5 you have handwr i t t en i n ex par t e mot i on. I ' ve seen t wo of
6 t hose.
7 I ' mi nt er est ed i n havi ng you i dent i f y whi ch
8 one you ar e now of f er i ng, because t he t wo ar e sl i ght l y
9 di f f er ent .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mof f er i ng t he one I ' m
11 of f er i ng t oday.
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We don' t know whi ch one t hat
13 i s.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s t he one t hat I ' mof f er i ng
15 t oday.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So i dent i f y i t f or us,
17 pl ease.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You haven' t shown i t t o us.
20 MR. COUGHLI N: One second, pl ease, si r .
21 MR. KI NG: I r eal i ze Mr . Coughl i n has not
22 i dent i f i ed t he document t o t he sat i sf act i on of t he chai r
23 yet . But I woul d obj ect on t he gr ounds t hat t her e appear s
24 t o be a di sk at t ached t o t he back t hat shoul d def i ni t el y
25 not come i n, because t her e i s no f oundat i on f or i t
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1 what soever .
2 And ex par t e mot i ons ar e not necessar y i n
3 t hese pr oceedi ngs, because we' r e r i ght her e at t he St at e
4 Bar t r yi ng t o f i nd out what hi s r esponses ar e. And f or
5 hi mt o suggest he' s f i l i ng ex par t e document s t o t he chai r
6 of t he panel t o avoi d t he St at e Bar i s i nappr opr i at e.
7 And l ast l y, I t hi nk i t ' s a gr eat concer n t hat
8 Mr . Coughl i n i s addi ng. I nst ead of cr eat i ng a new
9 document or aski ng f or l eave t o f i l e a new document i s
10 appar ent l y i nt er l i neat i ng or addi ng t o t he document t hat ' s
11 al r eady been pr of f er ed and st amped. So I don' t know what
12 i t was or i gi nal l y. Now I know he' s added t o i t , but i t ' s
13 not t he same document anymor e.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: I t a new document I ' mf i l i ng
15 r i ght now. That ' s new. I t ' s di f f er ent and new. I t mi ght
16 be subst ant i al l y si mi l ar t o one pr evi ousl y f i l ed, but i t ' s
17 new.
18 MR. KI NG: For t hose r easons I woul d obj ect .
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, woul d you ask
20 t he cour t r epor t er t o pl ease mar k i t and make i t par t of
21 t he r ecor d.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . I apol ogi ze.
23 MR. KI NG: Can I ask t he di sk be r emoved?
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hasn' t been admi t t ed yet .
25 Doesn' t mat t er . He' s of f er i ng i t . I want i t t o be par t
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1 of t he r ecor d.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I want t he di sk t oo.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The next i ssue i s whet her i t
4 wi l l be admi t t ed.
5 ( Exhi bi t 14 mar ked. )
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, l et me
7 under st and t hi s. You' ve added some handwr i t i ng t o t hi s
8 f r omsomet hi ng you had pr evi ousl y f i l ed?
9 MR. COUGHLI N: I at t empt ed t o use somet hi ng.
10 I bel i eve t hat ' s a copy of what was pr evi ousl y f i l ed. And
11 I at t empt ed t o not at e t hat . I ' mnot at t empt i ng t o mi sl ead
12 anybody. I t hi nk I wr ot e somet hi ng about i t bei ng new. I
13 scr at ched out t he f i l e st amp, and t hen I changed t he t i t l e
14 of t he document , and I r edat ed i t and si gned i t and put a
15 ver i f i cat i on, what I bel i eve shoul d suf f i ce as a
16 ver i f i cat i on. And I woul d be happy t o f ur t her ver i f y i t
17 i f t hi s cour t woul d be so ki nd as t o gi ve me an educat i on
18 of what i t mi ght l i ke t o see i n t hat r egar d.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I have had an oppor t uni t y t o
20 r evi ew t hi s document i n an ear l i er f or m. I t seems t o
21 addr ess t he under l yi ng i ssues as t o whet her or not t he
22 convi ct i on on t he var i ous or der s by t he cour t - - I t hi nk
23 t hi s one addr esses J udge Hol mes' or der .
24 To me t hi s i s a document t hat was used t o - -
25 or i gi nal l y ent i t l ed Not i ce Of Er r at a And Revi sed
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1 Suppl ement al Mot i on For New Tr i al , Or Al t er nat i vel y
2 Suppl ement al Mot i on To Vacat e J udgment Or Convi ct i on Or I n
3 The Al t er nat i ve Mot i on For Ar r est Of J udgment t hat appear s
4 t o have been f i l ed i n t he under l yi ng case.
5 I t appear s t hat Mr . Coughl i n i s now at t empt i ng
6 t o r ef i l e t hat document whi ch addr esses i ssues of t he
7 under l yi ng case i n t hi s cur r ent St at e Bar pr oceedi ng, and
8 t her ef or e, unl ess panel member s di sagr ee, I woul d r ul e
9 t hi s document as i r r el evant t o t he pr oceedi ngs as i t
10 const i t ut es an at t empt t o obt ai n a new t r i al or vacat i on
11 of an ear l i er j udgment .
12 MR. COUGHLI N: No, i t - -
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s my r ul i ng, si r .
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Al l r i ght .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: But i t i s par t of t he r ecor d.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hought you j ust r ul ed you
17 wer en' t accept i ng i t .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s par t of t he r ecor d.
19 I t ' s j ust not admi t t ed i nt o evi dence. But you can ar gue
20 t o t he supr eme cour t t hat I commi t t ed er r or .
21 I t ' s now 3: 36 or so, and I want t o af f or d bot h
22 si des t he oppor t uni t y t o pr esent a f i nal ar gument .
23 MR. COUGHLI N: So - -
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any addi t i onal
25 evi dence?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: So t he amount of t i me t oday
2 went f r om9: 00 o' cl ock t o 2: 30 f or Mr . Ki ng, and you gave
3 me an hour ?
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I ' mgi vi ng you 15
5 mi nut es - - t he r ul i ng was i t was 30 mi nut es per wi t ness,
6 15 mi nut es per each si de. I ' mgi vi ng you t he oppor t uni t y
7 t o pr esent your next evi dence.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay. I woul d l i ke t o
9 pr esent - - gi ve me one second, pl ease. I woul d l i ke t o
10 move i nt o evi dence a decl ar at i on.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s have t he r epor t er mar k
12 i t .
13 ( Exhi bi t 15 mar ked. )
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I bel i eve - - di d you j ust
15 handwr i t e some i nf or mat i on on t hi s?
16 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s at t or ney- cl i ent
17 pr i vi l ege.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You di d i t i n t he pr esence of
19 t he panel . I saw you wr i t i ng on some document ,
20 Mr . Coughl i n. Was t hi s - -
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t hi nk t hat ' s been
22 pr oven.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - was t hi s t he document t hat
24 you wer e wr i t i ng on?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' ve been wr i t i ng on l ot of
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1 st uf f t oday.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: When di d you f i l e t hi s
3 document ?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mj ust gi vi ng t hat t o you
5 r i ght now. I don' t see a f i l e st amp.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You haven' t f i l ed i t yet ?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t see a f i l e st amp on i t .
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' maski ng, di d you f i l e t hi s
9 wi t h t he St at e Bar ? Thi s i s a pl eadi ng.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s a decl ar at i on.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s a pl eadi ng i n a case
12 ent i t l ed St at e Bar of Nevada, Pet i t i oner , ver sus Zach
13 Coughl i n, r ef er ence i n cases NG12- 0204, NG- 0435, and
14 NG- 0434. The capt i on of t he document I have seen. I
15 bel i eve i t was st uck under my door at my of f i ce l ast
16 ni ght .
17 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s a di f f er ent one.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: A di f f er ent one?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Di d you ser ve t hi s one on
21 anybody?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s a whol e new t hi ng.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. You' ve compl et el y
24 wr i t t en on t hi s. I ' mj ust t r yi ng t o under st and what you
25 ar e at t empt i ng t o of f er her e.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I f you change one bl ade of
2 gr ass, i t ' s a di f f er ent f i el d, a di f f er ent bal l game.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: So t hi s i s a document t hat
4 you want now ent i t l ed Decl ar at i on. And what i s t hat wor d?
5 Ver i f i ed r esponse? And t hi s i s what you ar e of f er i ng as
6 your ver i f i ed r esponse t o t he St at e Bar ' s compl ai nt ?
7 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s what I ' mof f er i ng i nt o
8 evi dence r i ght now.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng, any comment ?
10 MR. KI NG: I haven' t seen t hat . I ' msor r y.
11 Fi r st of al l , I wi l l obj ect t o i t , and I woul d st r ongl y - -
12 I bel i eve i t ' s ext r emel y i nappr opr i at e f or Mr . Coughl i n t o
13 have wr i t t en on t hi s document , and t hen t o have suggest ed
14 he doesn' t acknowl edge your quest i on, but he j ust wr ot e on
15 t hi s par t i cul ar document .
16 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know t hat t hat ' s what I
17 sai d. I ' ve wr i t t en on a l ot of t hi ngs t oday. Wel l , maybe
18 not t hat many t hi ngs.
19 MR. KI NG: The document pur por t s t o be si mi l ar
20 t o ot her i r r el evant pl eadi ngs t hat have been f i l ed i n t he
21 past , essent i al l y i ncoher ent .
22 Of gr eat concer n t o me i s t hat at t ached t o t he
23 document agai n pur por t t o be di sks t hat Mr . Coughl i n has
24 cr eat ed or handwr i t t en on. And i n addi t i on, f or hi mt o
25 have essent i al l y al t er ed a document i n an at t empt t o
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1 pr of f er i t as some sor t of mot i on or evi dence t oday I
2 t hi nk i s obj ect i onabl e and shoul d be r ef used.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Al t er ed?
4 MR. KI NG: I don' t know what i t says,
5 act ual l y.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Woul d you ask t he cour t
7 r epor t er t o mar k t hi s document as t he next .
8 ( Exhi bi t 16 mar ked. )
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Because of t he unusual
10 ci r cumst ances pr esent ed by t hi s, unl ess panel member s
11 di sagr ee, I ' mgoi ng t o admi t bot h Exhi bi t s 15 and 16,
12 because I t hi nk t he manner - - and Exhi bi t 16 I wi l l
13 i dent i f y, f i r st of al l , as a document t hat I r ecei ved a
14 phone cal l at about 7: 00 o' cl ock l ast ni ght , t hat was a
15 document shoved under my door at my of f i ce. I t bear s a
16 f i l e st amp wi t h t he St at e Bar of November 13t h, 2012.
17 MR. COUGHLI N: Ther e' s no f i l e st amp on t hat .
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y?
19 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' maski ng - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mshowi ng you Exhi bi t 16.
21 I t has a f i l e st amped copy t hat was shoved under my door .
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d I gi ve you t he wr ong one?
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Exhi bi t 16 wi l l speak f or
24 i t sel f .
25 I ' mgoi ng t o admi t Exhi bi t s 15 and 16, because
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1 I t hi nk t hey bear r el evancy on t he i ssue of compet ency,
2 candor wi t h t he t r i bunal .
3 15 and 16 ar e admi t t ed, Mr . Coughl i n. Next ?
4 ( Exhi bi t s 15 and 16 admi t t ed i nt o evi dence. )
5 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke - -
6 MR. VELLI S: Ar e t hose admi t t ed wi t h t he
7 t r anscr i pt or t ape on t he back? Because I t hi nk Mr . Ki ng
8 had obj ect ed t o t he t apes.
9 MR. KI NG: I don' t have t he capabi l i t y, nor do
10 I want t o make copi es of t he di sks so I wi l l have t o ask
11 how t hat get s accompl i shed. To t he ext ent i t ' s goi ng t o
12 be made par t of t he r ecor d t hat goes t o t he supr eme cour t ,
13 Laur a wi l l make copi es. Do you want her t o make copi es of
14 t hose document s now?
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' madmi t t i ng t hese f or t he
16 l i mi t ed pur pose, not f or t he t r ut h of what ' s i n her e - -
17 MR. KI NG: I t ot al l y under st and.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - or admi t t i ng t he di sk as
19 evi dence i t sel f . But I ' madmi t t i ng t he t wo document s,
20 because I bel i eve i t goes t o t he cr edi bi l i t y of t hi s
21 wi t ness i n t er ms of what he t ol d us he was al t er i ng t oday.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: Al t er i ng?
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' msor r y, Mr . Coughl i n?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Al t er i ng?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes, al t er i ng.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: What ar e you pur por t i ng t hat I
2 t ol d you?
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r ecor d wi l l speak f or
4 i t sel f - -
5 MR. COUGHLI N: - - get out of t he r oom.
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - t hi s panel wr i t es i t s
7 deci si on, I wi l l expl ai n my r easoni ng f or i t . But I ' m
8 t r yi ng t o do i t now.
9 You f i l ed wi t h t he St at e Bar yest er day a
10 pl eadi ng t hat i s, i n my opi ni on, vi r t ual l y i dent i cal t o
11 t he one you say t oday was not f i l ed, t hat you handwr ot e
12 on, and t hen changed i t f r omt he pl eadi ng t hat you
13 or i gi nal l y f i l ed i t as, t o a ver i f i ed - - at t empt ed t o
14 change i t t o a ver i f i ed r esponse.
15 I bel i eve t he f act t hat you di d t hat - - I ' m
16 not admi t t i ng t hemf or t he t r ut h of anyt hi ng i n t her e.
17 I ' madmi t t i ng i t because I t hi nk i t bear s on t he i ssue as
18 t o t he compet ency and t he abi l i t y t o r epr esent peopl e i n a
19 t r i bunal .
20 MR. COUGHLI N: Why can' t I admi t - -
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot ar gui ng wi t h you,
22 Mr . Coughl i n, I ' mexpl ai ni ng my deci si on. We' r e not goi ng
23 t o ar gue. Do you have any ot her evi dence t o pr esent ?
24 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o pr eser ve f or
25 t he r ecor d t hat I amseeki ng t o have i t admi t t ed f or t he
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1 t r ut h, pr esent ed i t f or t he t r ut h of t he mat t er . I
2 i magi ne most cour t s can ei t her bel i eve i t not bel i eve i t .
3 But t o say we' r e not goi ng t o admi t i t .
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' madmi t t i ng i t f or t he - -
5 MR. COUGHLI N: No. You sai d you ar e admi t t i ng
6 i t f or a mor e l i mi t ed pur pose.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Yes.
8 MR. COUGHLI N: And I ' msayi ng I woul d l i ke t o
9 admi t i t f or t he t r ut h of t he mat t er asser t ed.
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mgoi ng t o over r ul e t hat
11 obj ect i on.
12 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, Laur a Pet er s has
13 asked me t o ascer t ai n how many copi es of t hose t hr ee
14 document s t he panel r eal l y needs.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I bel i eve f r ommy per spect i ve
16 what ever i s i n t he of f i ci al t r anscr i pt .
17 MR. KI NG: Do I need t o make f i ve copi es of
18 t hose document s f or each panel member or can I j ust make a
19 coupl e?
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What ever panel member want s a
21 copy of t hem.
22 MR. KENT: I don' t .
23 MR. COUGHLI N: For t he r ecor d, you don' t want
24 a copy you sai d?
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Excuse me, Mr . Coughl i n.
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1 MR. KENT: The or i gi nal i s wi t h t he cour t
2 r epor t er .
3 MR. KI NG: The or i gi nal wi l l be wi t h t he cour t
4 r epor t er .
5 MR. KENT: I don' t need anot her copy f r om
6 t hat .
7 MR. COUGHLI N: Di d you ever get a copy?
8 MR. KENT: No.
9 MR. COUGHLI N: Of t he CDs?
10 MR. KENT: No.
11 MR. COUGHLI N: So you ar e admi t t i ng you' r e not
12 goi ng t o r evi ew i t ?
13 MR. KENT: No. I don' t need anot her copy.
14 The copy i s bei ng mar ked wi t h t he cour t r epor t er .
15 MR. COUGHLI N: How ar e you goi ng t o vi ew i t ?
16 MR. KENT: I wi l l go l ook at t hat .
17 MR. COUGHLI N: The CD. But Mr . Ki ng ear l i er
18 t oday sai d he has been gi vi ng t he panel - - I see you al l
19 have a copy of ever yt hi ng I f i l ed, yet he' s not gi vi ng you
20 a copy of t he CD or DVDs.
21 MR. KI NG: That i s not cor r ect , Mr . Coughl i n.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: That seems f r audul ent .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: St op i t . St op i t . I
24 admi t t ed t hose t wo document s f or a ver y l i mi t ed pur pose,
25 Mr . Coughl i n, because you deni ed havi ng changed or al t er ed
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1 t hem.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s not cor r ect .
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The r ecor d speaks f or i t sel f .
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ook no posi t i on.
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You asser t ed an
6 at t or ney- cl i ent pr i vi l ege despi t e t he f act t hat you di d i t
7 i n t he pr esence of peopl e - -
8 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mal l owed t o f i l e t hi ngs how
9 I - -
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, you' r e t r yi ng
11 my pat i ence. I t ' s 10 t o 4: 00. Do you have any ot her
12 evi dence t o pr esent ?
13 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s as t hough you' r e t el l i ng
14 me how I ' mal l owed t o pr act i ce l aw. I t ' s l i ke you' r e
15 t el l i ng me what I ' mal l owed t o pai nt . You can say you
16 don' t l i ke t he pi ct ur e, but don' t I get t o choose what
17 col or s t o pai nt i t ?
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. You have t o compor t wi t h
19 t he r ul es. Do you have any ot her evi dence?
20 MR. COUGHLI N: You' r e at t empt i ng t o t ur n i t
21 i nt o some f r aud on my par t . That ' s l i ke what J udge Nash
22 Hol mes di d.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any ot her
24 evi dence?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah. I woul d l i ke t o t est i f y
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1 i n a nar r at i ve.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Al l r i ght . You' r e st i l l
3 under oat h. Wi l l you do i t i n - -
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I haven' t been under oat h t hi s
5 whol e t i me, because I ' ve been r epr esent i ng mysel f . So
6 ever yt hi ng I sai d so f ar I don' t bel i eve has been swor n
7 t est i mony. J ust l i ke Pat Ki ng has been abl e t o say a l ot
8 of st uf f . I t ' s not qui t e swor n, i s i t , Pat ?
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You i nt end t o cal l your sel f
10 as a wi t ness. I wi l l ask you t o do i t i n a quest i on and
11 answer f or mat .
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Bef or e I do t hat , I woul d l i ke
13 t o cal l Laur a Pet er s as a wi t ness.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' d l i ke t o what ?
15 MR. COUGHLI N: Cal l Laur a Pet er s.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng?
17 MR. KI NG: I f he can l ay a f oundat i on f or why
18 he want s t o cal l her .
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , because a l ot of t he
20 r epr esent at i ons she' s made t o me t hr oughout t hi s t hat have
21 gone back on - - t he St at e Bar has gone back on, have a
22 mat er i al ef f ect , a pr ej udi ci al one, on my abi l i t y t o
23 def end mysel f i n t hi s pr oceedi ng. Vi s- a- vi s how t hi ngs
24 ar e f i l ed. Vi s- a- vi s what t he Bar counsel wi l l at t empt t o
25 pr ove ser vi ce wi t h or wi l l at t empt t o f i l e as a pr oper
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1 r et ur n of ser vi ce. Vi s- a- vi s what t he Bar got back i n t he
2 mai l as post age i nsuf f i ci ent .
3 And I woul d l i ke t o i ndi cat e at one poi nt
4 Mr . Ki ng t ol d me, Zach, you don' t accept r esponsi bi l i t y,
5 t hat ' s why t hi ngs don' t go your way. And I pr of f er t hat
6 Mr . Ki ng, i f you don' t put t he post age on t he not i ce of
7 i nt ent t o t ake def aul t , you need t o accept r esponsi bi l i t y
8 f or t hat , si r , and not - -
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, we' r e not her e
10 f or you t o l ect ur e anybody. That ' s not becomi ng of a
11 l awyer i n a pr oceedi ng t o be maki ng accusat i ons.
12 Now, l et ' s get down t o Ms. Pet er s. You i nt end
13 t o cal l her t o est abl i sh?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: What she t ol d me about wi t ness
15 f ees and subpoenas and i ssui ng subpoenas. I woul d al so
16 l i ke t o cal l Mr . Ki ng wi t h r espect t o what he t ol d me, and
17 what he t ol d me Mr . Cl ar k had aut hor i zed me t o do wi t h
18 r espect t o i ssui ng subpoenas.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mnot goi ng t o per mi t t hat .
20 I bel i eve t he St at e Bar and St at e Bar per sonnel ar e
21 i mmune.
22 MR. COUGHLI N: I bel i eve t hey' r e - - I don' t
23 mean t o i nt er r upt you, si r .
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: That ' s t he f i r st t i me. Go
25 ahead.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: I bel i eve i t ' s Rul e 106 mi ght
2 say t hey ar e i mmune f r omci vi l l awsui t s. And I t hi nk
3 t hat ' s l i mi t ed. I f Pat Ki ng st abs me r i ght now, I don' t
4 t hi nk he' s i mmune f r omi t . Ther e' s some l i mi t t o i t . But
5 I don' t t hi nk i t says t hey' r e i mmune f r omquest i oni ng or
6 subpoenas or anyt hi ng el se. I t says t hey ar e i mmune f r om
7 act i on.
8 Mr . Ki ng has t aken an i ncr edi bl y br oad vi ew of
9 t he act i on because Mr . Ki ng i s a good l awyer . I r espect
10 hi s acumen and abi l i t y. He' s a cr af t y l awyer t oo. But he
11 has def i ned act i ons i n t he most br oad sense i magi nabl e,
12 wher e I woul d say SCR 106 t o be mor e speaki ng t o l i ke a
13 ci vi l act i on, or I woul d be sui ng Pat - -
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s f ocus on t he pr of f er
15 wi t h r espect t o Ms. Pet er s.
16 MR. COUGHLI N: Yeah. I at t empt ed t o have t he
17 not e - - she made r epr esent at i ons t o me about how you go
18 about get t i ng subpoenas done. And I di dn' t have much t i me
19 t o get subpoenas ser ved under NRCP 45, i f t hat i s i ndeed
20 t he r ul e t hat ' s appl i cabl e, gi ven t he ext ent t o whi ch I
21 di dn' t ever get a not i ce of i nt ent t o t ake def aul t . Under
22 penal t y of per j ur y I ' l l say t hat . I di dn' t . I got i t . I
23 got i t when I was gi ven t he f ul l f i l e.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mt r yi ng t o f ocus.
25 Mr . Ki ng asked f or a pr of f er of what evi dence you i nt end
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1 t o sol i ci t f r omMi ss Pet er s.
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t want t o get caught up
3 bei ng accused of per j ur y. I got a not i ce of i nt ent t o
4 t ake def aul t , I j ust di dn' t get t he one t hey mai l ed on t he
5 9t h of Oct ober . I got i t when t hey gave me t he bi g box of
6 st uf f , I bel i eve I si gned f or i t on t he 8t h or 7t h, I
7 bel i eve t he 8t h of November .
8 Wi t h r espect t o Mi ss Pet er s - - and I al so,
9 j ust t o st ay under penal t y of per j ur y - - I got t he
10 cer t i f i ed mai l ver si on of t he not i ce of hear i ng on t he
11 27t h of Oct ober .
12 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s f ocus on t he evi dence
13 you i nt end t o sol i ci t f r omMi ss Pet er s.
14 MR. COUGHLI N: What she t ol d me about my
15 r i ght s wi t h r espect t o i ssui ng subpoenas or wi t ness f ees,
16 and whet her or not I had t o pay t hose or subpoena duces
17 t ecumf ees.
18 MR. KI NG: I woul d obj ect on a coupl e of
19 gr ounds. Number one, r epeat edl y, and i n my pr esence, bot h
20 I and Ms. Pet er s have r epeat edl y caut i oned Mr . Coughl i n
21 t hat we cannot gi ve hi ml egal advi ce. Laur a - - I ama
22 l awyer , so i f i t wer en' t f or t he f act t hat I ampr ecl uded
23 f r omgi vi ng r espondent s l egal advi ce, I coul d, but Laur a
24 cannot , and woul d never suggest t hat she coul d i nf or m
25 Mr . Coughl i n of hi s l egal r i ght s. So t o t he ext ent he
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1 want s t o qui z her on t hat subj ect .
2 Fur t her , t he r ecor ds ar e t he best evi dence i n
3 t hat r egar d, and concl usi vel y est abl i sh when he was ser ved
4 and how he was ser ved.
5 So I t hi nk, unl ess t he panel want s t o quest i on
6 Ms. Pet er s on an i ssue, I t hi nk havi ng her subj ect ed t o
7 Mr . Coughl i n suggest i ng t hat he coul d r el y on st at ement s
8 by Mi ss Pet er s, even i f she made t hem, whi ch she cer t ai nl y
9 di dn' t , woul d be i r r el evant .
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s t he sense of t he
11 panel ? Does i t wi sh t o hear f r omMs. Pet er s?
12 MR. KENT: I do not . J ust seems t o me l i ke
13 t hat ' s l i ke cal l i ng opposi ng counsel or t hei r si st er .
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Vel l i s?
15 MR. VELLI S: No.
16 MR. J OHNSON: No. These ar e pr ocedur al
17 i ssues, and not subst ant i ve concer ns evi dence i s r equi r ed
18 on.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mi ss Pear l ?
20 MS. PEARL: I agr ee wi t h Mr . J ohnson.
21 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s t he sense of t he panel
22 t hat Mi ss Pet er s wi l l not be cal l ed as a wi t ness.
23 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t ' s i nst r uct i ve, t he
24 comment ar y by Mr . Ki ng t o t he ext ent t hat he has
25 equat ed - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You can ar gue - -
2 MR. COUGHLI N: - - ar gued t he whol e t i me,
3 because I ' ve been sayi ng t her e' s no separ at i on bet ween
4 cl er k and cour t and t he pr osecut or . The pr osecut or i s
5 cont r ol l i ng t he cl er k of cour t . He' s t el l i ng her - - and
6 Mi ss Pet er s, I swear under penal t y of per j ur y, she t ol d me
7 t hi s. Pat Ki ng sai d I coul dn' t f i l e a mot i on t o submi t - -
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n. Mr . Coughl i n,
9 you can ar gue your case l at er . Do you have any ot her
10 evi dence?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot ar gui ng i t . I ' m
12 put t i ng on evi dence.
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, do you have any
14 ot her evi dence t o of f er ?
15 MR. COUGHLI N: Sur e. I ' l l t est i f y.
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Al l r i ght . Pl ease do so i n a
17 quest i on and answer f or mat .
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I pr ef er , i f i t ' s al l r i ght ,
19 your Honor , t o t est i f y i n a nar r at i ve.
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I wi l l not per mi t t hat . I f
21 you want t o cal l your sel f as a wi t ness, I want a quest i on
22 and answer f or mat so t hat t he St at e Bar has an oppor t uni t y
23 t o obj ect t o t he quest i on.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay.
25 ZACHARY COUGHLI N
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1 havi ng been pr evi ousl y dul y swor n, t est i f i ed
2 f ur t her as f ol l ows:
3 DI RECT EXAMI NATI ON
4 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
5 Q Mr. Coughlin, thank you for being here today,
6 sir. You look very well. I like how you're dressed.
7 MR. VELLI S: Does he need t o be swor n?
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: He' s al r eady been swor n.
9 I ' l l r emi nd you you ar e under oat h st i l l .
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' l l not e f or t he r ecor d t hat
11 i t has been my under st andi ng t hat whi l e I have been
12 r epr esent i ng mysel f , and not of f er i ng t est i mony, t hat I
13 have not been under oat h.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Your under st andi ng i s wr ong.
15 Not onl y as an of f i cer of t he cour t , al t hough al bei t under
16 suspensi on, you have an obl i gat i on t o expr ess ext r eme
17 candor wi t h t he cour t and not l i e t o i t . So t o t he ext ent
18 t hat t hat ' s your obl i gat i on, t hen I bel i eve ever yt hi ng
19 t hat you say shoul d be t r ut hf ul . And i f you ar e wal ki ng
20 away f r omt hat , we woul d l i ke t o know t hat .
21 I f t her e' s some t hi ngs you have sai d t oday
22 t hat you now bel i eve ar e not t r ut hf ul t hat you woul dn' t
23 have sai d had you bel i eved you wer e under oat h, I woul d
24 l i ke t o know t hat .
25 But whet her or not you' r e under oat h, as an
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1 of f i cer of t he cour t you owe an obl i gat i on not t o decei ve
2 t hi s panel , not t o decei ve co- counsel . You ar e r emi nded,
3 however , t hat now t hat you' r e of f er i ng expl i ci t t est i mony
4 under quest i on and answer f or mat , t hat you ar e under oat h,
5 i n addi t i on t o your obl i gat i on as an of f i cer of t he cour t ,
6 al bei t under suspensi on.
7 So, do you want t o pr oceed?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You t ol d us how ni ce you
10 t hi nk you l ook. Any ot her r el evant quest i ons?
11 MR. COUGHLI N: I t j ust seemt her e' s a l evel of
12 r edundancy. I f what you' r e sayi ng i s t r ue, t hen why ar e
13 you r emi ndi ng me now t hat I amswor n and al l t hi s?
14 I don' t bel i eve Pat Ki ng has been swor n t oday.
15 Ar e you sayi ng ever yt hi ng he sai d has been sai d under oat h
16 t oday?
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: No. I ' msayi ng what he sai d
18 I expect t o have been i n candor - -
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Ther e i s a di f f er ence, r i ght ?
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - wi t h def er ence t o t he
21 cour t , and wi t h def er ence t o t he t r ut h, and wi t hout an
22 i nt ent t o decei ve. But you ar e of f er i ng speci f i c evi dence
23 now.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Now.
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Now you' r e under oat h.
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: That ' s why I made t he
2 di st i nct i on bet ween ever yt hi ng I ' ve sai d up t o now, and
3 now.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Pl ease pr oceed. Quest i on?
5 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
6 Q Do you feel Pat King has lied and/or misled
7 you or displayed a lack of candor to opposing counsel
8 through this process, Mr. Coughlin?
9 A I t hi nk t her e cer t ai nl y i s st r ong pr obabi l i t y
10 of t hat . I ' mver y di sappoi nt ed i n Mr . Ki ng' s behavi or
11 t hr oughout t hese pr oceedi ngs. I t ' s f r ankl y been somet hi ng
12 t hat has been r at her of f - put t i ng, sur e. Sur pr i si ng, yeah.
13 And somet hi ng t hat deni gr at es t he di gni t y of t he Bar , I
14 t hi nk a l ot of peopl e woul d say.
15 I t hi nk Pat Ki ng has f unct i oned pr i mar i l y as
16 an at t ack dog f or t he r i ch and power f ul t hr oughout t hese
17 pr oceedi ngs. And hi s behavi or - - when I say pr oceedi ngs,
18 I mean i t i n a br oad sense f r ommi nut e one when I met Pat
19 Ki ng. Hi s behavi or has evi nced a l ack of r egar d f or r i ght
20 and wr ong, and mor e somet hi ng i n l i ne of oppor t uni st i c
21 soci al cl i mbi ng t hat car es not f or what ' s f or t he best of
22 t he gr eat er good, but r at her f or what i s i n l i ne wi t h Pat
23 Ki ng' s own sel f - i nt er est , t he pur sui t of ease and comf or t ,
24 and t hat whi ch enabl es hi mt o r emai n as Bar counsel wi t h
25 t he l east amount of const er nat i on or r i sk t o adver se
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1 consequences di r ect ed at hi mby t hose i n power and cont r ol
2 of our l egal pr of essi on.
3 To wi t , Mr . Ki ng has at t empt ed t o
4 i mper mi ssi bl y exer t cont r ol of who has been hel d out t o me
5 as t he cl er k of cour t , Laur a Pet er s. Mi ss Pet er s has al so
6 been hel d out t o me as an i nvest i gat or , t hough she has
7 gone t o such gr eat l engt hs r ecent l y t o avoi d bei ng gi ven
8 any i nf or mat i on whi ch mi ght pr esent her wi t h t he dut y t o
9 f ol l ow up and i nvest i gat e t hat she has added me,
10 appar ent l y, t o her bl ocked sender s l i st of e- mai l s.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sor r y. You' r e goi ng beyond
12 t he quest i on. Your quest i on was what do you t hi nk of
13 Mr . Ki ng. Do you have anot her quest i on?
14 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r .
15 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
16 Q What did Mr. King tell you when you broached
17 the topic of whether or not you ever received the
18 certified mail notice of intent to take default
19 purportedly mailed and postmarked on November 9th, 2012 --
20 or October -- October 9th, 2012? Specifically with
21 respect to you indicating to Mr. King that the post office
22 would not give you that mailing, that large manila
23 envelope, due to the insufficient postage marked on it,
24 which you have previously indicated was only in the
25 neighborhood of $1.25, and was lacking somewhere in the
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1 neighborhood of five dollars postage for that certified
2 mailing of notice of intent to bring default?
3 A Wel l , I ' mgl ad you br ought t hat up, Zach.
4 Mr . Ki ng was par t i cul ar l y evasi ve i n t hat r egar d, and i t
5 al most seemed as t hough he r eal i zed t hat he and/ or hi s
6 st af f had made a mi st ake, but di dn' t want t o own up t o i t
7 because t he t i me had been booked, and/ or t he cour t
8 r epor t er was a nonr ef undabl e expense, and/ or Mr . Ki ng
9 r eal i zed he woul d yi el d a benef i t by j ammi ng Zach Coughl i n
10 i nt o pr oceedi ng wi t h t hi s pr oceedi ng, absent al l t he
11 pr ocedur al saf eguar ds, t he f ew of t hemt hat exi st .
12 To wi t , Mr . Ki ng seemed t o t ake an axe t o t he
13 ent i r et y of SCR 1052( c) .
14 I f I may, I woul d l i ke t o r ead t hat r ul e i nt o
15 t he r ecor d. Cour t ' s i ndul gence f or a second, and I ' l l t r y
16 t o pul l i t up.
17 I n t he meant i me - -
18 MR. KI NG: Mr . Chai r man, t he r ul e i s pr et t y
19 ext ensi ve. Due t o t he t i me const r ai nt s, I t hi nk t he panel
20 can - -
21 MR. COUGHLI N: I t ' s onl y a par agr aph.
22 MR. KI NG: - - not i ce of what t he l aw i s.
23 I nst ead of havi ng Mr . Coughl i n r ead i t , what ever emphasi s
24 he' s goi ng t o appl y, I woul d suggest t he cour t admoni sh
25 Mr . Coughl i n t hat i t wi l l r ead t he l aw on i t s own.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I agr ee. And you' ve been
2 t est i f yi ng now appr oxi mat el y ni ne mi nut es. You have si x
3 mor e. I don' t f eel i t ' s necessar y f or you t o r ead i nt o
4 t he r ecor d t he St at e Bar r ul e. I t hi nk most of us have i t
5 i n f r ont of us.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Okay.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have anot her quest i on?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
9 BY MR. COUGHLI N:
10 Q Can you tell me more about some of the
11 procedural violations and due process violations that have
12 been attendant to this proceeding?
13 A Sur e. Answer , sur e, I woul d l ove t o.
14 Mr . Ki ng and/ or Mi ss Pet er s, who seemt o have si gned
15 cer t i f i cat es of mai l i ngs f or bot h t he St at e Bar , and f or
16 t he panel chai r , whi ch mi ght be what t he r ul e ent ai l s, but
17 t hey have mai l ed out and/ or pur por t ed t o ser ve upon me a
18 not i ce of hear i ng and desi gnat i on of wi t nesses summar y of
19 evi dence t hat t hey pur por t was pl aced i n t he mai l by
20 cer t i f i ed mai l on Oct ober 12t h.
21 However , upon r evi ewi ng t he USPS Websi t e t r ack
22 and conf i r msyst em, i t i ndi cat es t hat t he f i r st scanni ng
23 of t hat i t emi nt o t he UPS syst emwas on Oct ober 16t h.
24 I moved. On appr oxi mat el y Sept ember 27t h- i sh
25 I moved. SCR 79, I bel i eve, r equi r es t hat I updat e my
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1 addr ess wi t hi n 30 days f or t he St at e Bar . Not necessar i l y
2 a physi cal addr ess, as Mr . Ki ng seemed t o i ndi cat e
3 ear l i er , but I bel i eve a mai l i ng addr ess.
4 I bel i eve I di d t hat , i n t hat I bel i eve i t
5 was - - at l east wi t h t he CLE boar d I bel i eve I updat ed t he
6 addr ess somet i me ar ound Oct ober 10t h, maybe ear l i er . I
7 know, and I bel i eve i t ' s i n t he mat er i al s t hat I have
8 submi t t ed on f i l e i n t hi s mat t er , t hat I bel i eve i t was
9 Oct ober 23r d I sent an e- mai l t o t he St at e Bar , and i t
10 mi ght have been a f ax t o Mr . Ki ng, and I t ypi cal l y copy
11 Mr . Cl ar k on i t t hat sai d, you know what , I haven' t want ed
12 t o gi ve out my addr ess because I ' maf r ai d of l ocal l aw
13 enf or cement . I ' ve been i ncar cer at ed t en t i mes t hi s year .
14 Ther e seems t o be a cl ear - cut r et al i at or y ani mus agai nst
15 me, and I j ust haven' t f el t comf or t abl e. And I have been
16 adj udged a vi ct i mof domest i c vi ol ence, somet i me, I
17 bel i eve, i n Febr uar y 2012.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, your quest i on
19 was addr essed t o pr ocedur al vi ol at i ons, and now you' r e
20 wander i ng away and t al ki ng about i ncar cer at i ons. Woul d
21 you f ocus on t he quest i on? Have you f i ni shed your answer
22 t o your quest i on?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: No, si r . They go t o t he
24 addr ess. And t he r eason I br i ng t hat up, and I ' msor r y I
25 had t o go of f i nt o t hat i s t hat t hat DowSoE and not i ce of
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1 hear i ng t hat he pur por t s. He by way, I bel i eve, of Laur a
2 Pet er s, si gned t he cer t i f i cat e of mai l i ng sayi ng t he
3 cer t i f i ed mai l ver si on was put i n t he mai l on t he 12t h.
4 At f i r st scan on t he t r acki ng conf i r mon t he
5 16t h i t shows on - - USPS t r ack and conf i r mi s on- l i ne.
6 You can t ype i n t he number of t he cer t i f i ed mai l . I t
7 shows t he f i r st t i me i t was pl aced i n my mai l box was
8 Oct ober 22nd.
9 I bel i eve t he r eason i t t ook f i ve days was
10 because I f i l ed a change of addr ess f r ommy post of f i ce
11 box, whi ch was expi r i ng. I changed i t t o my new physi cal
12 addr ess on East Ni nt h St r eet . So I changed i t f r omt he
13 P. O. Box 3961. I know I submi t t ed i t i n my hand vi a hand
14 del i ver y t o t he Vassar st at i on on, I ' mpr et t y sur e on
15 Oct ober 5t h, because t hat was t he day my post of f i ce box
16 was supposed t o r un out ; I submi t t ed t hat change of
17 addr ess.
18 I t ' s my under st andi ng i t can t ake some t i me
19 f or t hose t o act ual l y pr ocess. You get t he yel l ow
20 st i cker s. And I bel i eve t hat mi ght be t he r eason t hat i t
21 t ook f r omscanni ng t hat DowSoE not i ce of hear i ng on
22 Oct ober 16t h al l t he way t o Oct ober 22nd bef or e i t was
23 avai l abl e i n my, ei t her i n my mai l box or my new physi cal
24 addr ess or I was st i l l get t i ng mai l i n my ol d P. O. box.
25 And i n f act t he key i s st i l l wor ki ng r i ght now.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let me j ust t r y t o hel p you.
2 You have about - - I ' l l af f or d you t wo mor e mi nut es i f you
3 woul d l i ke t o addr ess ot her i ssues. Speci f i cal l y I ' m
4 i nt er est ed i n havi ng you addr ess t he i ssues t he supr eme
5 cour t asked us t o l ook at , and t hat i s what t he nat ur e and
6 ext ent of t he puni shment shoul d be. Do you have any
7 quest i ons on t hat t opi c?
8 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , I t hi nk get t i ng t hi s
9 whol e hear i ng t hr own out i s i n my best i nt er est s. And t he
10 f act t hat al l t he pr ocedur al saf eguar ds of SCR 1052( c)
11 have been vi ol at ed i s my best avenue t o do t hat .
12 Fur t her , I bel i eve t he ext ent t o whi ch t hi s
13 cour t has - - I ' mt est i f yi ng r i ght now, so I ' mgoi ng t o get
14 t hi s i n.
15 Mr . Ki ng has evi nced a - -
16 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You have t ol d us your vi ew of
17 Mr . Ki ng. I ' maski ng you - -
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mgoi ng t o t he not i ce of
19 i nt ent t o t ake def aul t , whet her I got i t .
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, I ' maski ng you
21 speci f i cal l y. Do you wi sh t o pr esent any evi dence wi t h
22 r espect t o t he supr eme cour t ' s di r ect i ve t hat t hi s panel
23 i s t o det er mi ne t he nat ur e and ext ent of any puni shment
24 you shoul d suf f er as a member of t he St at e Bar ?
25 MR. VELLI S: Or any mi t i gat i on.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Or any mi t i gat i on?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Mi t i gat i on. I ' ve been
3 di agnosed and t r eat ed wi t h ADD. I hat e admi t t i ng t hi s on
4 t he r ecor d. Al so maj or depr essi ve di sor der . My
5 gi r l f r i end of 4 1/ 2 year s, my domest i c par t ner , i n
6 August - - no. She f i nal l y gr aduat ed i n J une - - no, May
7 15t h. Two days l at er she moved out . She hadn' t t ol d me
8 f or at l east , I bel i eve May and J une, she t ook t he r ent
9 por t i on t hat I nor mal l y gave her and she woul d f or war d on,
10 and i nst ead she kept i t and st ar t ed a new l i f e wi t h i t
11 when she moved out .
12 I wasn' t awar e of t hat unt i l somet i me i n
13 August . August 11t h t he l andl or d sent me an e- mai l . I
14 was ar r est ed on August 20t h f or t he i Phone t hi ng t hat
15 t her e' s a t r i al on t he 19t h. 17 days l at er I was ar r est ed
16 on t he Wal mar t t hi ng.
17 August 2nd I cancel ed an appoi nt ment wi t h
18 Dr . Yasar , my psychi at r i st , because I coul dn' t af f or d i t
19 or t he medi cat i ons. I r eached out t o my f ami l y. Ther e
20 was some i l l wi l l i nci dent of t he br eakup of my domest i c
21 r el at i onshi p. I di dn' t r ecei ve any hel p f r omanybody. I
22 went of f my medi cat i ons because I coul dn' t af f or d t hem. I
23 di d make sever al cal l s t o NAMS, but gi ven t he sensi t i vi t y
24 of bei ng on t hese medi cat i ons and a l awyer , a
25 pr of essi onal , and t he pr ej udi ce at t endant t her et o, and t he
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1 f act t hat even i f I went t o NAMS t hey woul dn' t cover t he
2 ADD medi cat i on, and t hey woul d cover t he ant i depr essant ,
3 whi ch i s al so somewhat of a dual - use medi cat i on.
4 But l ong st or y shor t , I was r unni ng out of
5 money, and I deci ded a l ot due t o money, some due t o
6 desi r e t o t ake a medi cat i on hol i day. J ust see, when you
7 t ake t hese t hi ngs l ong enough, somet i mes you want t o see
8 what i t ' s l i ke not t aki ng t hem.
9 I went of f t hose medi cat i ons, pr obabl y t oo
10 abr upt l y, at t he st ar t of August .
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What year ?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: ' 11. Wi t hi n l i ke 20 days al l
13 of a sudden t he i Phone ar r est t hat ' s pendi ng r i ght now,
14 and I mai nt ai n my i nnocence on t hat . I t sounds l i ke a
15 r i di cul ous l aw school ef f ect pat t er n. But essent i al l y i f
16 t hi s i s a hypot het i cal exami n l aw school , i t woul d be
17 some guy f i nds an i Phone on t he gr ound i n a skat e pl aza i n
18 downt own Reno at 11: 15 at ni ght on a Sat ur day, and hol ds
19 i t al of t of f er i ng i t up t o t he deni zens of t he skat e
20 pl aza. Then he says somet hi ng t o t he ef f ect of , come on,
21 somebody, cl ai mt hi s. I ' mgoi ng t o t hr ow i t i nt o t he
22 r i ver . And at t hat t i me peopl e wi l l al l ege t hat I cl ai med
23 t he phone.
24 And t hen t her e' s some suggest i ons - - t her e' s
25 some ambi gui t y, some mi ght say, as t o whose phone i t i s at
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1 t hat poi nt . Whet her i t woul d be i n t he r i ver , i s t hat
2 l ost , mi sl ai d pr oper t y i s l ar ceny. Does a pol i ce of f i cer
3 have a r i ght t o coer ce you i nt o consent i ng t o sear ch.
4 Ther e i s a vi deo - - I gave you a vi deo of t he
5 ar r est - -
6 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Coul d you f ocus f or us on - -
7 MR. COUGHLI N: The mi t i gat i on.
8 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - t he f act or s - - l et me ask
9 t hi s quest i on. Do you bel i eve t hat any of t he i ssues t hat
10 you have descr i bed i mpai r your abi l i t y t o pr act i ce l aw and
11 adequat el y r epr esent cl i ent s?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I bel i eve when I ' mnot under
13 such - - get t i ng ar r est ed, spendi ng si x days i n j ai l ,
14 get t i ng out , f i ndi ng an evi ct i on not i ce on my door . An
15 evi ct i on whi ch I woul d mai nt ai n i s agai nst t he l aw, a
16 summar y evi ct i on, wher e nonpayment of r ent i s not pl edged
17 agai nst a commer ci al t enant .
18 Ther e' s l aws agai nst t hat f or a r eason,
19 because i t can mur der your busi ness, and i t ' s a huge
20 f al l out per sonal l y.
21 So I get ar r est ed. Spend si x days i n j ai l . I
22 mai nt ai n i t ' s a wr ongf ul ar r est . I mi ght not have done
23 ever yt hi ng per f ect , but I do bel i eve i f you l ook at i t ,
24 l ook at t he cr i mi nal l aw, you mi ght agr ee wi t h me t he
25 ar r est was wr ongf ul .
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: My quest i on was not whet her
2 t hat ar r est i s val i d or i nval i d, but whet her or not t he
3 condi t i ons t hat you descr i bed you f eel you suf f er f r om
4 i mpai r your abi l i t y t o pr act i ce l aw and/ or r epr esent ,
5 adequat el y r epr esent cl i ent s?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: No. No. And I t hi nk i f you
7 had been wi t h me t hr ough al l t hi s you woul d be
8 i mpr essed - -
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have - -
10 MR. COUGHLI N: - - by my dedi cat i on t o my
11 cl i ent s and t he l evel of wor k pr oduct I chur n out ,
12 especi al l y consi der i ng t he r emuner at i on I ' ve r ecei ved f r om
13 t hose cl i ent s. I have basi cal l y wor ked f or mi ni mumwage
14 doi ng peopl e' s cust ody, peopl e' s f or ecl osur e def ense,
15 adver sar y pr oceedi ngs i n bankr upt cy. And t her e was a
16 noncompet e case I t hi nk - - I ' mnot happy wi t h how my l i f e
17 has gone. I ' mnot happy wi t h al l t hi s dr ama and pr obl ems
18 wi t h t he cour t s. But - -
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Whi l e we' r e on t hat . Do you
20 r ecogni ze any sympt omof val i di t y i n some of t he l anguage
21 used by J udges Gar dner , J udge Nash Hol mes, and t hei r
22 or der s i n whi ch t hey f i nd you i n cont empt ? Do you
23 r ecogni ze t hat t her e may be some val i di t y i n what t hey
24 say?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t i s i mpor t ant t o know
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1 when t o j ust accept what t he j udge says f or t he di gni t y of
2 t he cour t , and t o know t hat f i ne l i ne bet ween st andi ng up
3 f or what you t hi nk i s r i ght , and not cont i nui ng t o push
4 past t he poi nt wher e i t ' s - - my own best i nt er est s or
5 wher e i t damages t he st andi ng or appear ance of t he l egal
6 pr of essi on i n gener al .
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you f eel a sense of
8 r emor se f or t he way you conduct ed your sel f i n f r ont of
9 j udges, bot h J udges Gar dner and J udge Nash Hol mes?
10 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes.
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: How so?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: I wi sh t he r esul t had been
13 di f f er ent . I t hi nk my hear t was i n t he r i ght pl ace
14 t hough. You know, I was st andi ng up f or t he - -
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you f eel t hat any - -
16 MR. COUGHLI N: - - t he domest i c vi ol ence vi ct i m
17 i n t he J oshi case, because I f el t she deser ved a swi ng at
18 t he bat f or al i mony. She sai d t hat she was l ooki ng t o me
19 and i mpl or i ng me t o advocat e on her behal f t her e.
20 Wi t h r espect t o t he J udge Nash Hol mes case,
21 t her e' s a l ot of anci l l ar y mat t er s t hat t hi s panel t ol d me
22 t hey si mpl y don' t f i nd r el evant .
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you r egr et any of t he
24 conduct t hat you exhi bi t ed i n ei t her J udge Li nda
25 Gar dner ' s, J udge Gar dner or J udge Nash Hol mes' cour t r oom?
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1 MR. COUGHLI N: Sur e.
2 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What conduct do you r egr et
3 havi ng ent er ed?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: I do t hi nk i t woul d have been
5 pr ef er abl e f or me t o have been abl e t o bet t er ar t i cul at e
6 t o J udge Gar dner t he basi s f or t he posi t i on I t ook. I
7 t hi nk my posi t i on - - I gener al l y ci t ed t o an ALR ar t i cl e
8 t hat I had r evi ewed pr evi ous t o t hat t r i al f or whi ch t he
9 t i t l e was somet hi ng t o t he ef f ect of a domest i c dut y,
10 i mper mi ssi bl e t o set i t of f wi t h a debt , a dut y gr eat er
11 t han a debt accor ded gr eat er si gni f i cance under t he l aw.
12 But I di dn' t gi ve her t he pr esent at i on t hat a mor e
13 exper i enced at t or ney l i ke J ohn Spr i nggat e di d wher e he had
14 t en exhi bi t s.
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: One of t he j udges accused you
16 of r ef usi ng t o f ol l ow t he j udge' s di r ect i ves. Di d you
17 agr ee wi t h t hat concl usi on when t he or der came down?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t know. I t hi nk t hat
19 t her e' s - -
20 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You appeal ed each of t he
21 or der s?
22 MR. COUGHLI N: I t r i ed t o.
23 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do I t ake f r omt hat t hat you
24 di sagr eed wi t h t he concl usi on t he j udges - -
25 MR. COUGHLI N: Absol ut el y.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: - - made?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: Absol ut el y.
3 MR. ECHEVERRI A: And you st i l l di sagr ee?
4 MR. COUGHLI N: See, I f eel l i ke t hi s i s t he
5 Guant anamo f or coer ced conf essi ons i n t hi s pr oceedi ng. I f
6 I don' t say yes, i f I don' t do t he bi g mea cul pa, t hen I
7 don' t get t he check box on t he mi t i gat i on anal ysi s. And I
8 t hi nk t hat ' s wr ong. Because I st ood up f or what I t hought
9 was r i ght her e. I t ' s as t hough t he syst emi s set up t o
10 demand me t o not st and by t hat . To - -
11 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do any of t he panel member s
12 have any f ur t her quest i ons?
13 MR. VELLI S: Mr . Coughl i n, j ust one t hi ng.
14 Some of t hose or der s r ef er t o what ' s cal l ed r ude or
15 sar cast i c behavi or . What i s your sense of t hat , and
16 f eel i ngs of r emor se about a j udge f eel i ng t hat you' r e r ude
17 or sar cast i c i n t he cour t r oom?
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mdi sappoi nt ed i n t hat . And
19 I want t o amel i or at e t hat i n t he f ut ur e and l i mi t t hat
20 whi ch i s exper i enced by t hose j udges as r ude and
21 sar cast i c. El i mi nat e t hat , maybe not compl et el y, because
22 I t hi nk t hat ' s par t of t he adver sar i al pr ocess, you know.
23 But make i t so t hat my pr esent at i on i n cour t as a
24 pr of essi onal i s mor e i n l i ne wi t h what ' s accept abl e.
25 That bei ng sai d, you' r e goi ng t o have your
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1 counsel or s out t her e, you know, and not ever ybody i s easy
2 l i ke Sunday mor ni ng, you know, as an at t or ney. And t hat ' s
3 okay. That ' s how Kar en St er nl y di d. And I l i ke t hat
4 about Kar en St er nl y. I st ol e al l her moves. And t hey
5 j ust - - peopl e don' t accept t hemqui t e so r eadi l y comi ng
6 f r omme. And maybe t hat ' s a l ack of common sense f r ommy
7 poi nt of vi ew or f r ommy - - f r omwher e I ' mcomi ng f r om.
8 But , you know, I j ust - - I know t hi s i s not
9 goi ng t o get me any poi nt s. But f r ankl y, I t hi nk t her e' s
10 a l ot of t hi ngs t hat ar e ver y r egr et t abl e t hat ar e goi ng
11 on i n t he l egal pr of essi on t hese days. And I ' ve t aken a
12 l ot of posi t i ons t hat ar e ver y, ver y honor abl e, and I ' ve
13 done a l ot of good t hi ngs t hi s year , par t i cul ar l y wi t h
14 r espect t o l andl or d t enant l aw as i t ' s car r i ed out i n
15 Washoe Count y, Nevada. And al l I ' ve got t en i s puni shed
16 and r et al i at ed agai nst because of i t .
17 And Ri char d Hi l l i s abl e t o l ever age t he
18 pol i ce f or ce, and some mi ght say t he boar d and t he Bar ,
19 some mi ght even say t he cour t s, t o an ext ent t hat I
20 f i nd - - I won' t say I , but I ' l l say some mi ght f i nd
21 obj ect i onabl e.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng el se?
23 MS. PEARL: I do.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead.
25 MS. PEARL: May I make a comment f i r st ?
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Sur e.
2 MS. PEARL: You made mor e sense i n t he l ast 15
3 mi nut es t han you di d al l day. And I have an enor mous
4 amount of r espect f or you. You' r e ver y i nt el l i gent , and I
5 woul d have you r epr esent me t omor r ow i n t he behavi or you
6 had j ust i n t he l ast 30 mi nut es. I ' mver y pr oud of you t o
7 do t hat .
8 May I ask you a quest i on? And when you wer e
9 goi ng t hr ough al l of t hese t r i al s and t r i bul at i ons wi t h
10 t he j udges and t he cont empt char ges, wer e you on
11 medi cat i on at t he t i me?
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Wel l , t he medi cat i on was - - I
13 went of f bot h of t hemi n August . I got ar r est ed - - August
14 2nd I went of f bot h of t hem. I got ar r est ed August 20t h.
15 Then I got ar r est ed on t he i Phone t hi ng, I got ar r est ed
16 August 9t h on t he Wal mar t t hi ng. The day af t er t he
17 Wal mar t t hi ng I got back on one of t he medi cat i ons,
18 because I f el t I coul dn' t af f or d bot h. And so I was on
19 t hat medi cat i on whi l e I got t he cont empt char ge wi t h J udge
20 Howar d on November 30t h.
21 I t wasn' t unt i l basi cal l y get t i ng - - t he
22 Febr uar y 27t h cont empt char ge wi t h J udge Nash Hol mes, same
23 deal , onl y on one of t he medi cat i ons.
24 I t ' s somewhat not a cont r ol l ed st udy, because
25 I ' mget t i ng evi ct ed, and my l i f e i s chaos i n t he meant i me.
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1 So J udge Nash Hol mes, t hat ' s anot her cont empt . And t hen
2 i t wasn' t unt i l - - by t he way, I need t o say t hi s.
3 Ther e was - - I want t hi s t o be i n t he r ecor d.
4 Ther e was t hr ee di f f er ent compet ency or der s t hi s year .
5 Ther e' s a r ul e t hat says pr oceedi ngs must be st ayed f or
6 t he pendency of t hose. My pr oceedi ngs kept on r ol l i ng
7 t hr ough t he pendency of al l t hr ee of t hose.
8 So al l t hr ee of t hese convi ct i ons coul d be
9 t hr own out as voi d gi ven t hat t r i al set t i ngs wer e - -
10 MS. PEARL: Let me add a quest i on t o what your
11 st at ement was j ust now. You' r e sayi ng t hat you went
12 t hr ough t he compet ency hear i ngs, and you admi t t hat you
13 have ADD and some depr essi on i ssues. I sn' t i t your
14 r esponsi bi l i t y as an at t or ney t o go t o t he Bar and say,
15 l ook, I ' mgoi ng t hr ough some t ough t i mes r i ght now t hat i s
16 not - - you' r e not - - i t ' s not your f aul t t hat you have a
17 di sease, t hat you' r e needi ng t he medi cat i on - - t hat you
18 coul d get a suspensi on of your l i cense unt i l you can get
19 back i nt o a r egi men of pi l l s and back i n act i ng l i ke t hi s
20 cour t and t he supr eme cour t i s aski ng you t o act .
21 Can' t you do t hat ? I sn' t t her e a r ul e of
22 or der t hat says, l ook, I need a t empor ar y suspensi on wi t h
23 no bad mar ks on my r ecor d unt i l I can get my act back
24 t oget her , and t hen wor k on t hat ?
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I di dn' t want t hat . I di dn' t
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1 want t hat , because t hat ' s an out f or al l of t he
2 mi sconduct , al l t he pol i ce mi sconduct , al l t he
3 pr osecut or i al mi sconduct , and some mi ght say al l t he
4 j udi ci al mi sconduct t hat I ' ve come up agai nst t hi s year - -
5 MS. PEARL: Why di d you do t hat ?
6 MR. COUGHLI N: - - i t ' s al ways Zach' s pr obl em,
7 t he ment al case pr obl em. And i t ' s t oo much of an out f or
8 mi sconduct by al l t hese ot her s - -
9 MS. PEARL: I ' mdone.
10 MR. COUGHLI N: - - I ' ma domest i c vi ol ence
11 at t or ney. Ment al heal t h car e i s t he f i r st t ool t he t yr ant
12 l ever ages. Oh, we' r e goi ng t o - - and i t comes t o t hi s al l
13 t he t i me. We' r e goi ng t o get you some ment al heal t h.
14 You' r e not act i ng l i ke we want , buddy, we' r e goi ng t o get
15 you some ment al heal t h. That ' s what t yr ant s and abuser s
16 do.
17 MS. PEARL: That ' s not my quest i on.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I ' mnot sayi ng i t i s.
19 MS. PEARL: I ' mnot t r yi ng t o be
20 di sr espect f ul . Ther e i s not hi ng wr ong wi t h i t . What I ' m
21 aski ng you i s why put your sel f i n j eopar dy of l osi ng your
22 l i cense al t oget her r at her t han t r yi ng t o get i t t oget her ?
23 MR. KI NG: I t hi nk he' s asked and answer ed
24 t hat .
25 MR. COUGHLI N: I t hi nk i t - - Pat , nobody el se
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1 has spoken f r omt hi s panel t he whol e day f r omt he chai r ,
2 and you' r e goi ng t o obj ect .
3 MR. KI NG: Mr . Coughl i n - -
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead, answer t he
5 quest i on. We' r e r unni ng out of t i me.
6 MR. KI NG: - - expl ai n why he di dn' t avai l
7 hi msel f of Rul e 117. We have encour aged hi mup t he
8 yi ng- yang t o get t r eat ment , t aki ng advant age of t hat
9 r ul e - -
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I don' t t r ust Pat Ki ng at al l .
11 MR. KI NG: Woul d you mi nd i f I asked a
12 f ol l ow- up quest i on?
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me?
14 MR. KI NG: May I ask a f ol l ow- up quest i on?
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I n a mi nut e.
16 Have you f i ni shed your quest i ons?
17 MS. PEARL: Yes. And I t hank you f or t he
18 answer s.
19 MR. COUGHLI N: Thank you. I appr eci at e i t .
20 MR. KI NG: Mr . Coughl i n, di d I on many
21 occasi ons, i ncl udi ng wi t h Davi d Cl ar k, encour age you t o
22 r ead and t ake advant age of Rul e 117?
23 MR. COUGHLI N: Pat , I j ust don' t t r ust you at
24 al l .
25 MR. KI NG: The quest i on i s di d we encour age
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1 you t o?
2 MR. COUGHLI N: I f you di d, Pat , i t came as
3 not hi ng mor e t han, hey, make my j ob easy. Si gn on t hi s
4 deal . Oh, i t pauses ever yt hi ng, i t pauses ever yt hi ng. I t
5 wi l l al l come out i n t he wash when you come back. And,
6 Pat , I j ust don' t t r ust you, man. I don' t .
7 MR. KI NG: That ' s okay. But was what was
8 sai d, t hat i t woul d pause ever yt hi ng - -
9 MR. COUGHLI N: No, I di dn' t say t hat ei t her ,
10 Pat . You had your t i me t o pr ove t hat , and you di dn' t use
11 your case f or i t , and now you' r e not goi ng t o use my case
12 t o pr ove t hat .
13 MR. KI NG: Mr . Coughl i n, I get t o
14 cr oss- exami ne you. Di d I ask you t o get t r eat ment - -
15 MR. COUGHLI N: Can I j ust f i ni sh my t est i mony
16 qui ckl y bef or e - - t her e' s j ust a coupl e t hi ngs.
17 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We' r e r unni ng out of t i me. I
18 af f or ded you i n excess of 20 mi nut es. I caut i oned you
19 when you wer e get t i ng cl ose. I t r i ed t o r edi r ect your
20 i ssue as t o how you f el t about t he supr eme cour t ' s
21 di r ect i ve f or t hi s panel t o det er mi ne t he nat ur e and
22 ext ent of puni shment , i f any. We f ocused on t hat .
23 I t ' s now 4: 31, accor di ng t o t he St at e Bar
24 cl ock. I woul d l i ke t o gi ve ever ybody an oppor t uni t y t o
25 gi ve us a f i nal ar gument . I ' mgoi ng t o gi ve Mr . Ki ng
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1 anot her t wo mi nut es t o f i ni sh quest i oni ng you, and t hen
2 we' l l st ar t f i nal ar gument .
3 MR. KENT: Can we t ake a r eal qui ck br eak?
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Par don me? I t hi nk we can i f
5 we' r e wi l l i ng t o go beyond 5: 00 o' cl ock t o what ever br eak
6 i t i s. I ' mpr epar ed t o st ay her e unt i l 5: 30 or so, i s
7 t hat okay?
8 MR. VELLI S: Yeah.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do you have any mor e
10 quest i ons?
11 MR. VELLI S: Do you want t o f i ni sh your
12 cr oss- exami nat i on, or ar e you done?
13 MR. KI NG: I ' mpr obabl y done.
14 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Let ' s t ake a qui ck br eak.
15 Let ' s come back at 20 mi nut es t o 5: 00, and we' l l go unt i l
16 5: 15 wi t h f i nal ar gument .
17 ( Recess t aken. )
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Back on t he r ecor d. The t i me
19 i s now 4: 40. I ' d l i ke t o now pr ovi de bot h si des 15
20 mi nut es f or f i nal ar gument . I ' ve conf er r ed wi t h some of
21 t he panel member s. We woul d l i ke speci f i cal l y t he f i nal
22 ar gument s t o addr ess t hese i ssues.
23 One. Whet her Mr . Coughl i n i s cur r ent l y
24 compet ent t o adequat el y r epr esent l i t i gant s and cl i ent s.
25 Two. Whet her or not t her e shoul d be penal t i es
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1 and di sci pl i ne i mposed on Mr . Coughl i n, and i f so, what
2 t he nat ur e and ext ent of t hat shoul d be.
3 Mr . Ki ng.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: One second. Can I i nt er j ect ?
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Go ahead, Mr . Coughl i n.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Sor r y, your Honor . Ther e was
7 j ust one ot her t hi ng I was hopi ng t o of f er i nt o evi dence.
8 I t wi l l onl y t ake a second t o ask t o do i t .
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What i s t hat ?
10 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d l i ke t o - - but t he
11 f i l e. And t hen t he subpoena t hat I t r i ed t o get t he
12 sher i f f her e and - -
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I bel i eve t hat al l t he
14 pl eadi ngs t hat have been f i l ed woul d be par t of t he
15 panel ' s r ecor d t hat woul d go t o t he supr eme cour t .
16 MR. KI NG: Anyt hi ng t hat ' s been mar ked as an
17 exhi bi t and i dent i f i ed and accept ed i nt o evi dence by t he
18 panel wi l l be par t of t he r ecor d. And t he ent i r e
19 t r anscr i pt of t he pr oceedi ngs. No ot her document s at t hi s
20 t i me, anyt hi ng t hat hasn' t been pr of f er ed as evi dence wi l l
21 be not admi t t ed.
22 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Do t he pl eadi ngs go up or
23 j ust t hat whi ch i s of f er ed i nt o evi dence and accept ed?
24 MR. KI NG: To t he ext ent t hat t he compl ai nt
25 wi l l cer t ai nl y go up, ever yt hi ng t hat ' s i n t hi s packet
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1 wi l l go up. Anyt hi ng t hat you had mar ked and accept ed as
2 evi dence wi l l be sent up on t he r ecor d, al ong wi t h t he
3 ent i r e t r anscr i pt .
4 But t o have ot her document s j ust compi l ed, i t
5 won' t hel p t he r ecor d, i t wi l l make i t mor e conf usi ng.
6 The supr eme cour t has bet t er t hi ngs t o do.
7 MR. VELLI S: Pl eadi ngs f i l ed, t hey don' t go
8 aut omat i cal l y, t he whol e case f i l e doesn' t go, j ust
9 what ever i s ent er ed her e?
10 MR. KI NG: Cor r ect . My pl eadi ngs, f or
11 i nst ance, as you can see by t he Bat es st amp number s ar e
12 t housands of pages of nonsensi cal e- mai l s and di spar agi ng
13 e- mai l s. I di dn' t t hi nk t hat t hat woul d add t o t hi s day
14 or hel p t he supr eme cour t .
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t hi nk t he conf usi on, at
16 l east I have, i s whet her or not t he pl eadi ngs t hemsel ves,
17 what ever f i l e, what ever Mr . Coughl i n has f i l ed, a mot i on
18 f or what ever r eason, ar e t hose par t of t he r ecor d t hat go
19 up on appeal ? I n ci vi l l i t i gat i on, wi t h whi ch I ' monl y
20 f ami l i ar , t hat does become par t of t he r ecor d i f so
21 desi gnat ed.
22 MR. KI NG: I f t he or der s go up, pl eadi ngs t hat
23 ar e not admi t t ed do not go up.
24 MR. COUGHLI N: Your Honor , i f I can j ust
25 i nt er j ect - -
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1 MR. KI NG: I n ot her wor ds, ever yt hi ng
2 Mr . Coughl i n sent , of t ent i mes wi t h t hese mul t i pl e capt i ons
3 wher e he' s sendi ng t hemt o many peopl e, he mi ght capt i on
4 as a pl eadi ng, i t doesn' t make i t a pl eadi ng. I t has t o
5 be somet hi ng t hat was sent t o us, f i l ed i n, and t hat woul d
6 be a pl eadi ng. And i f t her e was such a t hi ng as f i l e
7 st amped wi t h t he supr eme cour t , i t wi l l go up.
8 MR. VELLI S: That i s my quest i on. I t doesn' t
9 have t o be necessar i l y be br ought up her e, but i f i t was
10 submi t t ed and f i l e st amped as bei ng submi t t ed, t hen i t ' s
11 par t of t he r ecor d t hat goes up, whet her i t was ment i oned
12 her e or not ?
13 MR. KI NG: Cor r ect . That woul d be my
14 under st andi ng. Onl y i f i t was pr oper l y f i l ed, t i mel y
15 f i l ed, st amped i n by t he cour t .
16 MR. VELLI S: I t hi nk Mr . Coughl i n has
17 somet hi ng el se t o say.
18 MR. COUGHLI N: I woul d ask t hat I woul d be
19 al l owed t o be a l i t t l e bi t mor e speci f i c. Mr . Ki ng got me
20 a bi g box of st uf f . I ' monl y seeki ng t o put i n - - and i t
21 was br oken up i nt o about f our di f f er ent t hi ngs, each one
22 ki nd of had a car dboar d t hi ng and a r ubber band hol di ng i t
23 t oget her .
24 The one I ' mseeki ng i s t he one he l abel ed as
25 t he For mal Hear i ng Fi l e, SBN Coughl i n. And i t ' s Bat es
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1 st amped number 02701 i s t he st ar t . And i t goes al l t he
2 way t hr ough 0394, at whi ch poi nt I st ar t ed t o j ust keep
3 t he mor e r ecent pl eadi ngs, and j ust pl eadi ngs t hat I got
4 t o cont i nue on wi t h t he f i l e f r omwhen i t was t aken t o t he
5 pr i nt er , I bel i eve.
6 Thi s i s not j ust t he pl eadi ngs. Ther e' s some
7 st uf f i n her e I never even saw bef or e, l i ke an af f i davi t
8 by Laur a Pet er s t hat speaks t o t hi ngs l i ke t he ser vi ce of
9 t he compl ai nt . I t ' s f i l ed. I ' mwonder i ng why di dn' t I
10 get a copy of i t i f i t has a f i l e st amp on i t ? That ' s
11 ki nd of st r ange.
12 So I do t hi nk - - I woul d ask t hat I be abl e t o
13 admi t t hi s i nt o evi dence.
14 MR. KI NG: I don' t know what t hat i s. And I
15 obj ect t o i t at t hi s st age, pr of f er i ng a bunch of paper s
16 t hat haven' t been di scussed, haven' t been admi t t ed, no
17 f oundat i on l ai d. J ust t o say t hey ar e goi ng t o go up t o
18 t he supr eme cour t , i t doesn' t make sense.
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t end t o agr ee. These ar e
20 al l - - t he pl eadi ngs t hemsel ves, as we now under st and i t ,
21 ar e goi ng t o go - - woul d be par t of t he r ecor d t he supr eme
22 cour t r evi ews. What you' r e of f er i ng appear s t o be a st ack
23 of document s t hr ee i nches t hi ck t hat I have no i dea what ' s
24 i n t her e.
25 MR. COUGHLI N: May I - -
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: We don' t have t i me. I woul d
2 r eal l y l i ke t o af f or d you an oppor t uni t y t o addr ess t he
3 i ssue t hat I asked. So I ' mgoi ng t o sust ai n t he
4 obj ect i on. I ' mnot goi ng t o per mi t t hose exhi bi t s t o be
5 ent er ed i nt o at t hi s st age. You had al l day i n whi ch t o
6 do t hat , and i dent i f y speci f i c pi eces and pr of f er speci f i c
7 pi eces. I nst ead you chose t o spend a gr eat deal of t i me
8 at t empt i ng t o get i n vi deot apes and t r anscr i pt s.
9 So I ' mgoi ng t o over r ul e t hat obj ect i on t o t he
10 ext ent t hese ar e f act ual document s. To t he ext ent t her e
11 ar e pl eadi ngs i n t her e t hat ar e par t of t he of f i ci al
12 r ecor d, t hey ar e goi ng t o go up.
13 I t ' s now a quar t er t o 5: 00. You' ve hear d t he
14 quest i ons t hat t he panel i s i nt er est ed i n havi ng addr essed
15 i n t he f i nal ar gument s.
16 Mr . Ki ng.
17 MR. KI NG: Thank you ver y much. I f I coul d
18 st ar t by j ust expr essi ng t o t hi s panel how i mpor t ant i t i s
19 t o pr ot ect t he publ i c and t he pr of essi on t hr ough our peer
20 r evi ew and di sci pl i nar y pr ocess. I t i s i ncumbent upon
21 t hi s panel t o r ecogni ze whet her or not Mr . Coughl i n i s or
22 i sn' t compet ent t o pr act i ce l aw. Not whet her we have
23 sympat hy f or hi s condi t i on, what ever t hat i s, or we f eel
24 sor r y t hat he has not obt ai ned hel p, i f t her e i s hel p.
25 Because I can t el l f r omquest i oni ng f r omt he
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1 panel or st at ement s f r omt he panel t hat you can be
2 ext r emel y sympat het i c of an i ndi vi dual ci r cumst ance wher e
3 you can envi si on i n your br ai n i f t hi ngs wer e di f f er ent
4 wi t h your i nt el l ect , bei ng as smar t as you ar e, you mi ght
5 have made a gr eat l awyer or added somet hi ng. And
6 i magi ni ng t hat i n your head and sayi ng, I want t o af f or d
7 Mr . Coughl i n t he oppor t uni t y t o get t o t hat poi nt I say i s
8 not t hi s panel ' s pur vi ew t oday.
9 Because Mr . Coughl i n cl ear l y has est abl i shed
10 t hat he has not accept ed r esponsi bi l i t y f or hi s condi t i on.
11 That he knew i t coul d have been of f er ed, t hat he coul d
12 have r ecei ved hel p, but chose not t o. And what was hi s
13 expl anat i on at t he ver y end, and I ' l l back i nt o t hi s. But
14 hi s expl anat i on at t he ver y end i s, wel l , t hen, I woul d
15 l ook bad. I woul d be cavi ng t o t he bad j udges and t he
16 i nj ust i ces.
17 He has not demonst r at ed t o t hi s panel t hat I
18 have a pr obl em, and I want t o cor r ect i t , and t her e i s
19 hel p f or me.
20 And goi ng t o t he compl ai nt . Thi s i s not
21 somet hi ng we want ed t o occur . I f you l ook at t he
22 compl ai nt t hat was ser ved, i t st ar t s of f by i nt r oduci ng
23 Mr . Coughl i n, and t hen t he gr i evance we r ecei ved. And i t
24 poi nt s out r i ght at t he begi nni ng on Par agr aph 2, t he
25 r espondent was advi sed of t he gr i evance vi a U. S. mai l and
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1 e- mai l , and by br i ef meet i ng wi t h Mr . Ki ng at t he St at e
2 Bar . Respondent di d not cooper at e wi t h t he i nvest i gat i on,
3 and r at her t han r espond t o t he gr i evances as r equest ed,
4 r espondent sent nonr esponsi ve and di spar agi ng e- mai l s.
5 That never changed.
6 And t hen go t o t he next par agr aph. Respondent
7 has not made a r equest t o be pl aced on di sabi l i t y st at us,
8 nor has he acknowl edged t hat he may have a ment al
9 i nf i r mi t y, i l l ness, or addi ct i on.
10 He has never sai d t o t he St at e Bar t hat I have
11 a ment al af f l i ct i on or i nabi l i t y. You hear d t he j udges
12 t est i f y. You hear d J udge Hol mes suggest t hat she had a
13 l i t t l e backgr ound i n t hi s ar ea, but cl ear l y she f el t t hat
14 he had ment al l y degener at ed and coul d not pr act i ce l aw.
15 And she f el t i t was so ser i ous t hat she made t hose
16 f i ndi ngs by cl ear and convi nci ng evi dence.
17 You hear d f r omour ver y f i r st j udge, J udge
18 Beesl ey. He t al ked about I cont act ed Coe Swobe, an
19 advocat e of Mr . Coughl i n when he f i r st became admi t t ed,
20 and sai d what , he can' t pr act i ce, and he' s not appr opr i at e
21 i n t he cour t r oom. And I f el t t hat i t woul d be a danger t o
22 t he cl i ent s.
23 So j ust cut t i ng r i ght t o t he chase. Thi s i s a
24 ci r cumst ance wher e i n t he compl ai nt we r ecogni zed i t . We
25 have a pol i cy at t he St at e Bar t hat i f an at t or ney has a
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1 cr i si s i n t hei r l i f e, whet her i t be - - heaven f or bi d, you
2 can have a deat h of a chi l d or a wi f e. You coul d have a
3 di sease. You coul d have a st r oke. You coul d have even
4 dr ug or al cohol pr obl ems or some sor t of an addi ct i on.
5 And t he St at e Bar want s at t or neys t o get hel p and t o
6 mai nt ai n t hei r l aw l i cense, and t hat ' s t hat we want ed f or
7 Mr . Coughl i n.
8 I nst ead, he di d not accept hi s condi t i on. And
9 he hasn' t t oday. And when you ar e aski ng t hose pr obi ng
10 quest i ons, l eadi ng as t hey wer e, di d you f eel bad when you
11 conduct ed your sel f t hi s way? Ther e wasn' t an i mmedi at e
12 yes, and I ' l l never do i t agai n, and I ' msor r y, and I ' m
13 f al l i ng on my swor d. Now t hat I ' ve t al ked t o my
14 psychi at r i st he' s goi ng t o t r y new medi cat i ons. None of
15 t hat has occur r ed.
16 I nst ead what you get i s t he t est i mony t hat you
17 hear d f r omMr . Coughl i n t oday, and t hat i s i t i s
18 ever ybody' s f aul t except hi s. You hear d hi msay, al t hough
19 he di dn' t pr oduce any evi dence t o suggest i t , but he
20 st ar t ed of f by sayi ng J udge Hol mes l i ed, t hat t hese j udges
21 have some sor t of al most a conspi r acy t heor y t o get hi m,
22 and t hat t he St at e Bar does.
23 So what i s t he ser i ousness of t hi s? Wel l , t he
24 St at e Bar f or war ded a 111 pet i t i on t o t he supr eme cour t .
25 Why? Because t he l aw mandat es t hat we do. And what does
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1 t he l aw say? That t hef t by an at t or ney, r egar dl ess of t he
2 amount , i s a ser i ous cr i me. And t hey suspended hi ml i ke
3 t hat pendi ng t he di sci pl i nar y hear i ng. Hey, you' r e done.
4 You don' t get t o pr act i ce l aw.
5 That ' s our Nevada Supr eme Cour t sayi ng, i f you
6 ar e goi ng t o behave t hi s way, you don' t get t o pr act i ce.
7 Now come bef or e a di sci pl i nar y panel . And had
8 Mr . Coughl i n come bef or e you, whi ch he di d not , and sai d,
9 I have a ment al pr obl emor some ot her i ssue, and I ' m
10 wor ki ng on get t i ng i t r esol ved, and I need t o t hr ow mysel f
11 at your mer cy, and gi ve me a chance t o go t hr ough t hi s
12 desi gned t r eat ment pr ogr amt hat I amwor ki ng on. And i n
13 f our year s or t hr ee year s I want t o have an oppor t uni t y t o
14 come back and pr ove mysel f , t hat woul d have been
15 t hr i l l i ng. And I woul d have been gl ad i f t hat was t he
16 case. I encour aged Mr . Coughl i n t o t ake t hat appr oach.
17 I expl ai ned t o hi m, I can' t gi ve you l egal
18 advi ce, but t hi s i s my opi ni on. And he sai d no way. He
19 suggest ed I pack my bag and go t o Ar i zona.
20 What was t he t hef t par t of ? Wel l ,
21 Mr . Coughl i n sai d what ? I went of f my meds, and t hen I
22 got mysel f ar r est ed, and t hen I had al l t hese ser i es of
23 cr i mes. What dat e di d he gi ve you f or when he went of f
24 hi s meds? 2011.
25 But f r omt he begi nni ng of hi s pr act i ce we have
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1 a j udge who wr i t es an or der t hat got hi mf i r ed f r omWashoe
2 Legal Ser vi ces. She sai d t hat hi s conduct was
3 di sr espect f ul . And you' ve got t he or der . That was a
4 f i ndi ng by a j udge back i n 2009.
5 And t hen i f you go t hr ough t he hi st or y of t he
6 pat t er ns, t hi s has been an ongoi ng consi st ent pat t er n f or
7 Mr . Coughl i n. He hasn' t br ought f or t h, whi ch he cer t ai nl y
8 has t he oppor t uni t y, a si ngl e cl i ent t o t est i f y her e t oday
9 t o say he hel ped me. He di d a good j ob. He di dn' t br i ng
10 a si ngl e at t or ney f r omt he ent i r e Bar t o come i n and say,
11 you know, Mr . Coughl i n i s okay.
12 So who di d we hear f r om? We have hear d f r om
13 peopl e t hat knew hi mand l i ked hi m, and consi der hi m
14 somebody t hey l i ke. And t hat was Paul El cano, a ver y
15 exper i enced at t or ney who no doubt woul d have been t hr i l l ed
16 i f Mr . Coughl i n was compet ent t o pr act i ce l aw and was
17 hel pi ng peopl e.
18 I don' t t hi nk Mr . El cano want ed t o t est i f y
19 her e t oday agai nst Mr . Coughl i n, but he f el t compel l ed t o
20 as a member of t he Bar t o say, he' s i ncompet ent t o
21 pr act i ce. He was i ncompet ent when he was bef or e t he
22 j udge, and I wi t nessed t hat . And t hen i f you r emember he
23 added, but I ' ve seen mor e r ecent t hi ngs. Do you r emember
24 t hat t est i mony? He sai d t hi s i s, i n ot her wor ds, t hi s i s
25 ongoi ng. Thi s wasn' t an epi sode.
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1 Mr . Hi l l t est i f i ed. Now Mr . Hi l l i s
2 r epr esent i ng an adver sar y cl i ent . But what di d Mr . Hi l l
3 t el l you? You can' t bel i eve anyt hi ng he says. And my
4 of f i ce, my ent i r e st af f , you hear d hi mt est i f y, my ent i r e
5 of f i ce was t er r or i zed.
6 And Mr . Coughl i n can si t her e whi l e we have
7 mar shal s i n t he r oomand at one t i me appar ent l y act
8 passi ve. But you saw hi s aggr essi ve, di sr espect f ul
9 conduct r i ght her e t o t hi s panel . He cannot cont r ol
10 hi msel f or does not cont r ol hi msel f or chooses not t o.
11 What ever t hat i s. You have t o l ook at hi s conduct and say
12 what i s hi s act ual conduct t oday?
13 So he st eal s, and he' s convi ct ed. And i t ' s a
14 ser i ous cr i me accor di ng t o t he supr eme cour t , because i t ' s
15 t hef t . Di d he gi ve any expl anat i on t oday f or why he di d
16 i t or under st and what ci r cumst ances he di d i t ? No. Hi s
17 ent i r e f ocus was on whet her or not t her e was - - I don' t
18 know. I hear d somet hi ng about a t r i bal pol i ce of f i cer and
19 I D, but never a suggest i on t hat I was f ool i sh, or I made a
20 mi st ake, shoul dn' t have done t hi s.
21 But he went t hr ough an ent i r e day t r i al wi t h a
22 j udge who di d what at t he end of t he t r i al ? I t ' s not l i ke
23 i t was enough t hat I ' mgoi ng t o f i nd you gui l t y of t hi s
24 ser i ous cr i me, whi ch t hat j udge cer t ai nl y i s exper i enced
25 enough t o know i f I f i nd you gui l t y, and you' r e a l awyer ,
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1 you' r e goi ng t o have a ser i ous pr obl em. He hel d hi mi n
2 cont empt of cour t and put hi mi n j ai l f or hi s conduct
3 bef or e hi mdur i ng an ent i r e pr oceedi ng wher e he was
4 obnoxi ous and di sr espect f ul and condescendi ng, many t i mes
5 of whi ch he st ar t ed t o exhi bi t bef or e t hi s ver y panel .
6 That ' s one j udge.
7 J udge Hol mes. What di d she do at t he end of
8 her t r i al ? She f ound hi mgui l t y. And t hen she hel d hi m
9 i n cr i mi nal cont empt . And t hen she i ssued anot her or der
10 af t er t r i al det ai l i ng out hi s conduct and t he vi ol at i on of
11 each of t he Nevada di sci pl i nar y r ul es. Why? Because she
12 i s t el l i ng t he panel t he man can' t pr act i ce l aw. He' s not
13 f i t t o pr act i ce.
14 And she sai d - - I asked her , what was your
15 i nt ent i on i n wr i t i ng t he or der ? Why di d you det ai l out
16 al l of t he r ul es of pr of essi onal conduct ? And why di d you
17 f i nd i t by cl ear and convi nci ng evi dence, whi ch you know
18 i sn' t a t ypi cal st andar d f or ci vi l pr act i ce. And she
19 sai d, because I want ed t hi s panel t o under st and t hat he
20 needed t o st op pr act i ci ng l aw.
21 So now you have had t hr ee exper i enced j udges
22 t est i f y. You had J udge Beesl ey who t ol d you as a f eder al
23 j udge I r evi ewed hi s pl eadi ngs. I t al ked t o ot her s. I
24 i nvest i gat ed. And he i s i ncompet ent t o t est i f y. That was
25 one f eder al j udge.
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1 Then you hear d f r omJ udge Hol mes who sai d he
2 cannot t est i f y. He' s not compet ent r at her , he i s not
3 compet ent t o pr act i ce l aw.
4 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You have a coupl e mor e
5 mi nut es.
6 MR. KI NG: Asi de f r omt he f act t hat he' s mean
7 and ar gument at i ve and condescendi ng and di sr espect f ul .
8 That was i n each of t he j udges' or der s.
9 You have admi t t ed - -
10 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Ki ng, you' ve onl y got a
11 coupl e mor e mi nut es, and I woul d l i ke t o hear t he St at e
12 Bar ' s t hought s on what , i f any, puni shment shoul d be
13 i ssued, and what t hat shoul d be.
14 MR. KI NG: Yes. Thank you. J udge Howar d.
15 Ever y one of t hese exper i enced j udges t hat had hi mbef or e
16 hi msai d he was pr act i ci ng i n an i ncompet ent manner and i t
17 woul d pose a t hr eat t o cl i ent s. Ever y si ngl e one of t hem
18 sai d t hi s.
19 So you cannot , i n my opi ni on, under any
20 ci r cumst ance, suggest i n any way t hat Mr . Coughl i n i s
21 compet ent . Because you' ve hear d no evi dence f r om
22 Mr . Coughl i n t hat woul d suppor t t hat . Not f r oma si ngl e
23 wi t ness.
24 So l et ' s st ar t wi t h t he pr oposi t i on t hat he i s
25 not goi ng t o be pr act i ci ng l aw. Thi s i s how I woul d
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1 suggest on behal f of t he St at e Bar t hat you vi ew t hi s.
2 When an at t or ney acknowl edges t hei r behavi or ,
3 t akes st eps, r emedi al measur es, st eps, t o addr ess t hei r
4 posi t i on and avai l s t hemsel ves of Rul e 117, whi ch st ops
5 t he di sci pl i nar y pr oceedi ngs dur i ng t he pendency of t hei r
6 r ecover y, and al l ows t heman oppor t uni t y t o come t hr ough a
7 char act er and f i t ness commi t t ee t o be r ei nst at ed, we
8 shoul d - - I t hi nk t hat ' s l audabl e, and we shoul d appl aud
9 t hat and assi st any at t or ney t hat want s t o go t hat pat h.
10 Mr . Coughl i n has t est i f i ed t hat he r ef used t o
11 go down t hat pat h, because he f el t somehow i t woul d not be
12 i n hi s i nt er est s or woul d go agai nst t he gr ai n - -
13 MR. ECHEVERRI A: What shoul d be t he
14 puni shment ? I ' ve al l owed you t o go over . Coul d you
15 addr ess t hat , pl ease?
16 MR. KI NG: Because of t hat , i t i s not
17 appr opr i at e, i n my opi ni on, under t hese ci r cumst ances wi t h
18 Mr . Coughl i n' s conduct i t woul d be t ot al l y i nappr opr i at e
19 t o suggest t hat we' r e mer el y goi ng t o gi ve hi ma
20 suspensi on pendi ng some sor t of nonexi st ent r ecover y
21 ef f or t s, some sor t of an ef f or t t hat he coul d r eest abl i sh
22 hi msel f , get on medi cat i ons, r et ake t he Bar examand t he
23 pr of essi onal r esponsi bi l i t y - -
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: You' r e t el l i ng us what i s not
25 appr opr i at e. I ' d r eal l y l i ke t o hear what i s appr opr i at e.
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1 MR. KI NG: Di sbar ment . And di sbar ment i s ver y
2 ser i ous, because i t ' s per manent . And so t he r eason I f el t
3 t o say what i sn' t appr opr i at e i s I want you t o under st and
4 t hat I acknowl edge t her e ar e goi ng t o be gr eat
5 oppor t uni t i es f or somebody t o t ake a l eave, get hel p, come
6 back.
7 Mr . Coughl i n i s not t hat char act er . When he
8 i s out t her e, he i s hur t i ng peopl e, he i s maki ng l i f e
9 di f f i cul t f or peopl e, he' s not even measur i ng up t o t he
10 l owest st andar d of a l awyer .
11 And so I t hi nk under t hese ci r cumst ances t he
12 answer shoul d be, Mr . Coughl i n, because of your conduct
13 over t hese past year s, and your r ef usal t o r ecogni ze i t or
14 seek hel p, and your cont i nued cont empt of our cour t s and
15 of t he pr ocess, you have f or f ei t ed your r i ght t o pr act i ce
16 l aw. And when t hat occur s, he wi l l not be a t hr eat t o t he
17 pr of essi on or t he publ i c.
18 And af t er t hat , t hen I per sonal l y woul d wi sh
19 not hi ng but t he best f or Mr . Coughl i n i n a l ess st r essf ul
20 car eer t hat doesn' t have t he et hi cal r esponsi bi l i t i es and
21 t he f i duci ar y dut i es t hat an at t or ney has. I t hi nk i n
22 t hi s case t he hi ghest r ecommendat i on woul d be t hat he be
23 per manent l y di sbar r ed. Thank you.
24 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' ve al l owed you t o go, or
25 you' ve gone an ext r a f our mi nut es. So, Mr . Coughl i n, I
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1 wi l l al l ow you t o go unt i l 5: 25 wi t h your f i nal ar gument .
2 And I ' mgoi ng t o r ul e, Mr . Ki ng, t hat havi ng
3 exer ci sed al l of your t i me i n your openi ng st at ement , t hat
4 you wai ved a r ebut t al .
5 Go ahead, Mr . Coughl i n.
6 MR. COUGHLI N: Thank you, your Honor .
7 Mr . Ki ng made a good poi nt wi t h t her e' s not
8 one cl i ent her e t oday. Ther e' s not one cl i ent her e t oday
9 compl ai ni ng about a si ngl e t hi ng I ' ve done. Wher e ar e al l
10 t he vi ct i ms of al l my t er r i bl eness and al l my l ack of
11 compet ency? Wher e ar e al l t hese vi ct i mi zed cl i ent s? We
12 di dn' t hear a si ngl e cl i ent cal l Mr . Ki ng up compl ai ni ng
13 about anyt hi ng I di d, anyt hi ng I char ged t hem, t hat I
14 di dn' t r et ur n some sor t of wor k pr oduct f or , any unear ned
15 f ees, any mi sappr opr i at i ons spent on hooker s. Li ke J udge
16 Beesl ey t est i f i ed r ecent l y f or somebody who was j ust
17 r ei nst at ed l ast week, who di dn' t get a t empor ar y
18 suspensi on - -
19 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, pl ease addr ess
20 your si t uat i on, not anot her l awyer ' s si t uat i on.
21 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . So wher e ar e t he
22 vi ct i ms? Oh. Oh, t hey ar e al l j udges. Most l y muni cour t
23 j udges who al l have a backgr ound as a pr osecut or . Oh,
24 shucks. Oh, shucks. Those poor , poor , pr osecut or s t ur ned
25 j udges, so vi ct i mi zed by t hi s br oke, evi ct ed,
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1 r et al i at or i l y ar r est ed at t or ney. Those poor t hi ngs. Good
2 Lor d does t he publ i c need t o be pr ot ect ed f r omt hat guy.
3 Wel l , he' s a menace. He' s j ust t he wor st . I t hi nk
4 di sbar ment i s appr opr i at e her e.
5 Pat , do you have any i dea how r i di cul ous you
6 sound? Ri col a. Ri di cul ous. That ' s how you sound, Pat .
7 Di sbar ment . Pat , r each deep i nsi de your sel f and get a
8 gr i p.
9 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, woul d you
10 pl ease addr ess your ar gument s t o t he panel , not t o
11 Mr . Ki ng.
12 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . We have hear d t oday
13 a mul t i t ude of r easons why t hese, quot e- unquot e,
14 convi ct i ons ar e j ust not appr opr i at e, a basi s f or t hi s
15 panel t o i ssue any f ur t her puni shment t han t hat whi ch has
16 al r eady been f el l ed and l i ved t hr ough.
17 I ' ma l i censed - - I ' ve been a l i censed pat ent
18 at t or ney wi t h t he Uni t ed St at es Pat ent and Tr ademar k
19 Of f i ce. Ther e' s a coupl e of t hose, maybe, i n t own.
20 Respect f ul l y, your Honor , I ' l l j ust not e t hat one of t he
21 bases f or r ecent l y r ei nst at i ng Mr . Har r i s was J udge
22 Beesl ey t est i f yi ng t hat he' s one of t he ver y f ew Chapt er
23 11 bankr upt cy at t or neys i n t own who has a cer t ai n l evel of
24 ski l l and acumen - -
25 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, Mr . Har r i s' s
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1 si t uat i on i s not bef or e us, and I woul d l i ke you t o
2 addr ess your si t uat i on.
3 MR. COUGHLI N: I am, si r . I ' monl y ment i oni ng
4 t hat , because i t seems t o be a f act or - -
5 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I t ' s not i n evi dence even.
6 Pl ease pr oceed.
7 MR. COUGHLI N: The l aw deci si ons, you can ci t e
8 t o ot her di sci pl i ne mat t er s, publ i shed or not wi t h r espect
9 t o. And i t seems as t hough i n t hat case t he ext ent t o
10 whi ch t hat r espondent of f er ed t he publ i c somet hi ng whi ch
11 i t woul d not have wer e he not t her e was r el evant .
12 The f act t hat I ' ma pat ent at t or ney, I
13 bel i eve - - I don' t know, but I t hi nk I st i l l mi ght be an
14 at t or ney, because t he Uni t ed St at es Pat ent and Tr ademar k
15 Of f i ce says so.
16 I n f act , a suspended at t or ney may st i l l
17 pr act i ce i n some bankr upt cy cour t s, even i f t hey onl y have
18 one St at e Bar l i cense, and i t ' s suspended, t her e' s a
19 weal t h of aut hor i t y t hat says t hey' r e st i l l an at t or ney
20 who i s l i censed t o pr act i ce bef or e t he f eder al cour t .
21 But r egar dl ess, I bel i eve on t hat basi s t o t he
22 ext ent t hat t hat r espondent , who I ' mf r i ends wi t h, I know
23 hi m, I see hi mon Thur sdays, a basi s f or hi s r ei nst at ement
24 was t he r ar i t y of what he of f er ed t o t he publ i c gi ven hi s
25 exper t i se and acumen i n a Chapt er 11 cont ext .
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Appar ent l y, I ' mnot maki ng
2 mysel f ver y cl ear . I woul d r eal l y l i ke you t o addr ess
3 your si t uat i on, and not Mr . Har r i s' s si t uat i on. Coul d you
4 do t hat f or us?
5 MR. COUGHLI N: My si t uat i on i s I ' ma pat ent
6 at t or ney. Beyond t hat , I ' man at t or ney who has done a l ot
7 of wor k no ot her at t or ney want ed t o do. Maybe Bol es. I
8 don' t know. Who Pat al so has pr osecut ed t hi s year ,
9 i nt er est i ngl y. Anybody who st ands up t o l aw enf or cement
10 seems t o get pr osecut ed by Pat .
11 You know, we have an i nt er est i ng t own her e.
12 I t ' s pr et t y i sol at ed. I t ' s on an i sl and. Local l aw
13 enf or cement doesn' t have l aw enf or cement i n t he next
14 count y or ot her wi se r eal l y st oppi ng t hemf r om- -
15 MR. ECHEVERRI A: I ' mr eal l y sor r y,
16 Mr . Coughl i n. But I woul d l i ke you t o assi st t he panel i n
17 f ol l owi ng our di r ect i ons. I ' ve asked you t o addr ess, one,
18 whet her or not you' r e compet ent t o cont i nue t o pr act i ce
19 l aw. Two, how shoul d we deal wi t h t he supr eme cour t ' s
20 mandat e t hat we ar e t o consi der t he nat ur e and i nt ent of
21 puni shment as a r esul t of t hat t hef t convi ct i on and ot her
22 mi sconduct , and i f you bel i eve puni shment i s war r ant ed,
23 what t he nat ur e of t hat puni shment shoul d be.
24 I f we can f ocus on t hose i ssues, i t woul d hel p
25 t hi s panel do i t s j ob a l ot bet t er t han t r yi ng t o
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1 under st and Mr . Har r i s' s si t uat i on or some ot her l awyer ' s
2 si t uat i on. Coul d you f ocus on t hat f or me, pl ease?
3 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . Let me def i ne f ocus,
4 because somebody wi t h ADD seems i ncr edi bl y cr eat i ve, t hey
5 t ypi cal l y, peopl e wi t h ADD, f ocus, but t hey of t en have a
6 hyper f ocus t hat t hey ar e abl e t o shi f t i nt o i n cer t ai n
7 set t i ngs wher e t hey' r e i nvol ved, and t hat ' s what you see
8 i n my wor k pr oduct . Peopl e mi ght not l i ke what i t says.
9 But gr ant ed, some of t hi s was wr i t t en t he ni ght I got out
10 of j ai l af t er bei ng a vi ct i mof a f oi l ed pl ot .
11 But t her e ar e some wor k pr oduct s her e t hat I
12 woul d def y you t o t el l me you wer en' t i mpr essed by. Ther e
13 i s a l evel of det ai l t hat you don' t see t hat of t en. And,
14 i n f act , t o get back t o your f ocus, your Honor , l et me
15 make a l i st her e. You i ndi cat ed t hr ee t hi ngs. The
16 puni shment - - your Honor , woul d you i ndul ge me? J ust l i st
17 t hemof f once mor e, and I pr omi se I wi l l f ocus.
18 MR. ECHEVERRI A: The panel i s i nt er est ed i n
19 l ear ni ng, one, whet her or not you' r e cur r ent l y compet ent
20 t o pr act i ce l aw and r epr esent cl i ent s i n t hi s
21 j ur i sdi ct i on. Two, what your t hought s ar e on t he supr eme
22 cour t ' s mandat e t o t hi s panel t hat we l i st en t o and
23 addr ess what t he nat ur e and ext ent of puni shment shoul d be
24 f or your convi ct i on of t hef t . And t hr ee, what t he nat ur e
25 and ext ent of t he puni shment shoul d be gi ven t he t ot al i t y
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1 of t he ci r cumst ances, and t he i ssue t hat you have had wi t h
2 r espect t o sever al j udges i n f r ont of whomyou' ve
3 appear ed.
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . So t o r ei t er at e.
5 The f i r st pr ong woul d be cur r ent compet ency, whet her or
6 not suf f i ci ent t o pr act i ce i n t hi s j ur i sdi ct i on.
7 The second pr ong woul d be t he nat ur e and
8 ext ent of t he puni shment , vi s- a- vi s t he t hef t , ser i ous
9 of f ense convi ct i on, f r omwhi ch t he t empor ar y suspensi on
10 st ems f r om60838.
11 The t hi r d woul d be t ot al i t y of t he
12 ci r cumst ances, nat ur e and ext ent of t he puni shment gi ven
13 t hese ot her mat t er s we have gone i nt o t oday.
14 To st ar t wi t h t he f i r st one wi t h r espect t o my
15 compet ency. My r evi ew of my r ecent wor k pr oduct i s t hat
16 i t ' s t oo over t he t op, i t ' s t oo mout hy, bel l i ger ent . And
17 i t doesn' t cont ai n t he appr opr i at e l evel of t he decor um
18 t hat one needs t o see t ypi cal l y of an at t or ney. Beyond
19 t hat , i t ' s exceedi ngl y good. And i t ' s ver y, ver y f ocused,
20 par t i cul ar and i nt r i cat e. And i n t hat r espect I t hi nk I ' m
21 exceedi ngl y compet ent . And I ' ve f ound my pat h i n l i f e t o
22 an ext ent . Because t her e' s not many j obs I can do, but
23 t hi s i s one of t hemI f eel I can do wel l .
24 You st ar t get t i ng me i nt o a pl ace wher e I can
25 do my l aundr y r egul ar l y, and I can have a l aunchi ng pad,
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1 and I t hi nk you' l l f i nd t hat t he wor k pr oduct and t he
2 decor umand t he compor t ment I exhi bi t wi l l be bet t er and
3 bet t er , mor e i n l i ne wi t h what peopl e saw out of me i n my
4 l i f e pr evi ous t o August of 2011.
5 I ' mnot t he most consi st ent per son i n t he
6 wor l d, but capabl e of some i mpr essi ve t hi ngs. And of t en
7 you' r e goi ng t o f i nd t hat . You' r e goi ng t o f i nd peopl e
8 t hat ar e not hi ng but consi st ent , t hey j ust never do
9 anyt hi ng gr eat . But t hat ' s - - we' r e al l di f f er ent i n l i f e
10 l i ke t hat .
11 So I bel i eve cur r ent l y my compet ency i s mor e
12 t han suf f i ci ent t o be a l i censed pr act i ci ng at t or ney i n
13 Nevada. I hope i t ' s been shown t o t hi s panel t he ext ent
14 t o whi ch I ' ve i dent i f i ed i ssues t hat ar e of i mpor t i n t hi s
15 set t i ng, t hat of a di sci pl i nar y hear i ng. And i n
16 ar t i cul at i ng my posi t i on wi t h r espect t o, wi t h al l due
17 r espect , t hi ngs about how t hi s pr oceedi ng has been car r i ed
18 out t hat I t ake i ssue wi t h.
19 That bei ng sai d, I gai n a gr eat er
20 under st andi ng of what i t i s t hi s panel i s char ged wi t h,
21 and why t hi s pr oceedi ng has pr oceeded t he way i t has. And
22 t o some ext ent i t ' s i mpr essi ve, because I t hi nk t hi s panel
23 and t he chai r and t he member s of i t have managed t o get t o
24 t he hear t of t he i nqui r y her e wi t h a f ai r amount of , hi gh
25 amount of ski l l , I woul d say.
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1 To move on t o t he second pr ong, t he nat ur e and
2 ext ent of t he puni shment wi t h r espect t o t he convi ct i on
3 f or pet t y l ar ceny of , quot e, a candy bar and some cough
4 dr ops i n Sept ember st emmi ng f r oman ar r est i n Sept ember of
5 2011 wher e t her e' s a convi ct i on, i t ' s a candy bar and some
6 cough dr ops. I suppose i t ' s not wor t h get t i ng i nt o t he
7 det ai l s about t hat t he st or e admi t s I bought $85 of st uf f ,
8 and t hey ar e al l egi ng I at e t he st uf f whi l e I was
9 shoppi ng, t her e' s some di sput e.
10 I under st and t he posi t i on t hat r egar dl ess of
11 Cl ai bor ne I t hi nk t he r ul es ar e set up t o say, l ook, t hi s
12 pr oceedi ng has a di f f er ent pur pose t han r el i t i gat i ng your
13 gui l t . I t ' s about a di f f er ent pur pose her e, and I t hi nk
14 I ' mgr aspi ng t hat mor e. Sl owl y. And I ' msor r y. I know
15 at t i mes I appr eci at e you' ve had t o be pr et t y pat i ent wi t h
16 me, because I do j ust want t o go back and r el i t i gat e t hat .
17 But I t hi nk, and I hope t hi s panel wi l l t ake
18 i t , wi l l r evi ew some of t he f i l i ngs I f i l ed t hi s year i n
19 t he Nevada Supr eme Cour t . I f i l ed one t hat was
20 par t i cul ar l y f ocused wi t h r espect t o t hat second pr ong i n
21 60838. I bel i eve i t was f i l ed August 13t h of 2011 wher ei n
22 I essent i al l y moved under SCR 1024( d) f or t he t empor ar y
23 suspensi on t o be di ssol ved. I al so bel i eve I moved on an
24 al t er nat e basi s under 111. 8, I t hi nk, wher e you can show
25 good cause why t he t empor ar y suspensi on shoul d be
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1 di ssol ved.
2 The t hi r d basi s, I t hi nk you have t o get t he
3 convi ct i on over t ur ned. That ' s 111. 10. I don' t t hi nk I
4 can do t hat because I haven' t achi eved t hat wi t h any of
5 t hese yet .
6 But I say t hat f i l i ng I f i l ed i n 60838, and I
7 al so f i l ed a separ at e f or essent i al l y t he same t hi ng i n
8 61426 whi ch i s based on t he 10124( d) , whi ch maybe i s
9 i nappl i cabl e her e. The r ul es ar e har d t o di scer n i n t hat
10 r egar d. But I set out t he l i on' s shar e of cases wher e an
11 at t or ney has been convi ct ed of shopl i f t i ng. You mi ght be
12 sur pr i sed t o f i nd out t her e' s qui t e a f ew. Ther e' s qui t e
13 a f ew cases wher e an at t or ney has been convi ct ed of
14 shopl i f t i ng.
15 And t hat f i l l i ng, I bel i eve, i s somewher e i n
16 t he nei ghbor hood of 85 t o a hundr ed pages. And i t
17 pr obabl y pul l s t oget her most i f not - - act ual l y, pr obabl y
18 50 per cent , at most , of t he cases wher e an at t or ney has
19 been convi ct ed of shopl i f t i ng, publ i shed opi ni on. You
20 have t he guy i n Ver mont , t he t hr ee ski shops, t housands of
21 dol l ar s i n ski boot s and st uf f i n a f ew days. You have
22 t he f emal e at t or ney t hat br oke up wi t h t he boyf r i end,
23 br oke i nt o hi s house, t ook a f ew t hi ngs. You have a l ot
24 of t hose. And a l ot of t hose wound up wi t h a publ i c
25 r epr i mand was t he puni shment . Ther e was no suspensi on.
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1 Ther e' s pr obabl y 30, 40 cases i n t hat mot i on
2 t o di ssol ve t hat I f i l ed on August 13t h, 2011, 60838, 30
3 t o 40 publ i shed deci si ons wher ei n t he puni shment di dn' t
4 consi st of a suspensi on. And I woul d submi t t hat my
5 par t i cul ar convi ct i on i s amongst t he l owest i n al l t hese
6 r epor t ed deci si ons i n dol l ar val ues of t hef t t hat exi st .
7 I t ' s l i t er al l y aki n t o t he case wher e - - t her e
8 i s a case wher e someone - - I don' t know i f t he at t or ney - -
9 but someone f r oma buf f et wal ked out wi t h an or ange. My
10 case i s a candy bar . So r eal l y, i t ki nd of makes me
11 quest i on some peopl e' s deci si on- maki ng abi l i t i es and wher e
12 t hey ar e comi ng f r omwhen t hey ar e t al ki ng about
13 di sbar ment .
14 That bei ng sai d, i t ' s not - - we' r e not j ust
15 her e about a candy bar now, ar e we? We' r e her e about a
16 t ot al i t y of t he ci r cumst ances, whi ch goes t o t he t hi r d
17 pr ong, your Honor . I n t hat r espect I woul d f i r st st ar t
18 of f by sayi ng we have a pr ocess f or t hose sor t s of t hi ngs.
19 And i t ' s not a sor t of , l et ' s see i nt o t he f ut ur e and
20 i ssue a puni shment now f or t hat whi ch hasn' t even yet been
21 adj udi cat ed upon.
22 Mont er o suppor t s t hat vi ew under Nevada l aw,
23 t hat case wher ei n t he Bar sought t o essent i al l y seek a
24 suspensi on f or some pendi ng cr i mi nal pr osecut i on. I t ' s my
25 under st andi ng t hat t ot al i t y of t he ci r cumst ances her ei n i s
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1 goi ng t o consi der what el se besi des t hi s candy bar t hi ng.
2 Wel l , i t coul d consi der t he t r espass t hi ng cer t ai n, r i ght ?
3 But Bar counsel f i l ed an SCR 111. 4 pet i t i on
4 r ecent l y. What does t hat mean? I t means Bar counsel
5 t hemsel ves admi t t hat t hat was not a ser i ous cr i me, a
6 ser i ous of f ense as el uci dat ed under SCR 111. 6 wher ei n t he
7 cr i me must i nvol ve cer t ai n el ement s, chi ef among t hem
8 usual l y some el ement of decei t , t hef t , mi sappr opr i at i on or
9 obst r uct i on of j ust i ce.
10 Bar counsel hi msel f f i l ed t he SCR 111 pet i t i on
11 under t he f our t h subheadi ng, whi ch i s basi cal l y al ong t he
12 same l i nes as a DUI , a f i r st - of f ense DUI , wher e t her e i s
13 no damage or har mor bodi l y har mor some ot her cr i me l i ke
14 maybe di st ur bi ng t he peace woul d f al l i n t hat l i ne as
15 wel l .
16 Fur t her , j ust t o back up f or a second wi t h
17 r espect t o t he appr opr i at e puni shment f or t he pet t y
18 l ar ceny convi ct i on. I ' l l not e t hat i n a vast maj or i t y of
19 ot her cases I ci t e t o t he per son got a suspensi on t hat was
20 l ess t han what I ' ve al r eady ser ved, whi ch i s, I bel i eve
21 i t ' s about f i ve mont hs now. And i f i t goes over si x, i t ' s
22 goi ng t o t ake a t housand- dol l ar bond and an or der of t he
23 cour t t o get me back i n. So i t ' s get t i ng down t o t he wi r e
24 wher e i f I don' t get r eadmi t t ed r i ght away, I don' t know
25 i f I ' mever goi ng t o get r eadmi t t ed, j ust f or var i ous
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1 r easons.
2 But I t hi nk I pr obabl y woul d, because I want
3 t o be an at t or ney t hat bad. And I f eel I have t hat much
4 t o of f er , and t hat t he pr of essi on has t hat much t o of f er
5 me.
6 But get t i ng back t o t he poi nt I was goi ng t o
7 qui ckl y make about t he second pr ong. The vast maj or i t y of
8 t he r epor t ed deci si ons wher e someone got a l esser
9 puni shment t han I have al r eady ser ved ent ai l ed a si t uat i on
10 wher e someone pl ed down t o a pet t y l ar ceny f r omsomet hi ng
11 mor e subst ant i al , such as a gr and l ar ceny, or somet hi ng
12 even mor e t han t hat wher e i t was some even mor e
13 si gni f i cant event , and pl ea bar gai ni ng i nvol ved wi t h pet t y
14 l ar ceny.
15 Me, somet i mes my per sonal i t y' s so r ancor ous or
16 I ' mso wi l l i ng t o but t heads wi t h what I see somet i mes as
17 pr osecut or i al mi sconduct t hat t her e was no pl ea bar gai ni ng
18 goi ng t o be had. I n f act , t her e was a pul l t he r ug out
19 f r omunder me, no, we' r e not goi ng t o st i p t o a
20 cont i nuance even wher e unl awf ul r egi st r y i s bei ng appl i ed
21 t o pot ent i al l y excul pat or y mat er i al .
22 To put i t si mpl y, I was convi ct ed of t he most
23 ser i ous cr i me t hey coul d have char ged wi t h me wi t h, a
24 f i r st - of f ense shopl i f t i ng char ge f or f ood, and not even
25 much f ood.
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1 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Mr . Coughl i n, i t ' s 5: 23. I
2 know your back i s t o t he cl ock, and I want t o r emi nd you
3 you have a coupl e mi nut es l ef t .
4 MR. COUGHLI N: Yes, si r . To f i ni sh up wi t h
5 t he t hi r d pr ong. The t ot al i t y of t he ci r cumst ances I
6 woul d say, one, t hat ' s not somet hi ng t hat ' s bur deni ng t hi s
7 panel her e t oday, I do not bel i eve. I bel i eve t hat woul d
8 be aski ng t hi s panel t o adj udi cat e t hat whi ch i s not
9 pr oper l y bef or e i t . Let t he j udges who ar e assi gned t o
10 any pendi ng cr i mi nal pr osecut i on i ssue t hei r r ul i ngs on
11 t hose, and l et t hi s panel pr oceed f r omt her e.
12 Wi t h r espect t o any ot her mat t er s t hat mi ght
13 be at t endant t o a t ot al i t y of t he ci r cumst ances, cer t ai nl y
14 I t hi nk t hi s panel does have t o consi der t he cont empt
15 r ul i ngs. However , I t hi nk t her e' s been a si gni f i cant
16 puni shment al r eady. And I can t el l you t hi s has had a
17 devast at i ng i mpact on my f ami l y.
18 To some ext ent anyt i me somet hi ng l i ke t hat
19 happens, an i ndi vi dual has t o say what ' s my par t i n t hi s.
20 And despi t e what Mr . Ki ng' s assessment mi ght be, I t hi nk
21 any f ai l ur e t o set f or t h a spi r i t of t hat sor t on my
22 behal f i s not so much engender ed f r oma l ack of
23 i nt r ospect i on or wi l l i ngness t o addr ess my own par t i n
24 t hi s, but i t ' s mor e j ust a f i del i t y t o t he pr i nci pl es t hat
25 caused me t o get i nt o some of t hese scr apes i n t he f i r st
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1 pl ace; i . e. , my hear t was i n t he r i ght pl ace, and I was
2 j ust st andi ng up f or what I t hi nk was r i ght .
3 So much so t hat I f i nd i t di f f i cul t t o back
4 of f now, because I bel i eve i n some of t he t hi ngs t hat I
5 di d and sai d t hat ul t i mat el y got me puni shed and hel d i n
6 cont empt .
7 But t hat bei ng sai d. Goi ng f or war d, I t hi nk
8 I ' l l under st and t hat , you know, i t ' s not easy bei ng a
9 j udge. And I di d t ouch on t hi s i n my ex par t e mot i on
10 r ecent l y, t he ext ent t o whi ch I know bei ng a j udge must
11 j ust wei gh enor mousl y on a per son, t he deci si ons t hey
12 make, and t he enor mi t y of some of t hemsomet i mes. And i n
13 t hat r egar d I i nt end t o show mor e r espect t owar d t he
14 member s of t he bench shoul d I be f or t unat e enough t o be
15 pl aced back among t he act i ve member s of t hi s pr of essi on.
16 I t hank you f or your t i me t oday.
17 MR. KI NG: I have no f ur t her ar gument as t he
18 panel chai r di r ect ed, but I do have somet hi ng I need t o
19 put on t he r ecor d.
20 I f t he panel chooses not t o di sbar
21 Mr . Coughl i n, but i nst ead af f or d hi msome oppor t uni t y
22 t hr ough r ei nst at ement , r egar dl ess, he shoul d be hel d
23 r esponsi bl e f or payi ng t he cost s of t he i nvest i gat i on of
24 t hese pr oceedi ngs. They shoul dn' t f al l on t he ot her
25 member s of t he Bar t o pay.
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1 And I bel i eve i t woul d be appr opr i at e si nce
2 you hear d evi dence on t he i ssue of t he cour t or der t hat he
3 pay Dr . Mer l i ss' s f ees. That any r ei nst at ement , i f you
4 don' t di sbar hi mper manent l y, woul d be he woul d be
5 r equi r ed t o f ol l ow t hat cour t or der t o pay t hose f ees.
6 Thank you.
7 MR. ECHEVERRI A: Anyt hi ng f ur t her ? I ' mgoi ng
8 t o pr opose, because i t ' s get t i ng l at e, I woul d l i ke t o
9 ci r cul at e an e- mai l t o t he panel member s t omor r ow t o
10 ar r ange a dat e when we can ei t her get t oget her i n per son
11 and/ or on t he phone and di scuss t he si t uat i on. We have 30
12 days, I bel i eve, i n whi ch t o i ssue a wr i t t en opi ni on. I
13 woul d l i ke t o set up a meet i ng somet i me wi t hi n t he next
14 week wher e we can al l di scuss t hi s i ssue and come up wi t h
15 a r ul i ng, and t hen I ' l l of f er a t ent at i ve r ul i ng, t hen
16 I ' l l of f er t o wr i t e t he opi ni on and ci r cul at e i t f or
17 appr oval or di sappr oval .
18 At t hi s t i me i s t he hear i ng wi l l st and
19 adj our ned, and I wi l l ci r cul at e an e- mai l t omor r ow.
20 ( Pr oceedi ngs concl uded at 5: 30 P. M. )
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1 STATE OF NEVADA )
2 ) ss.
3 COUNTY OF WASHOE)
4 I , CAROL HUMMEL, a not ar y publ i c i n and f or
5 t he Count y of Washoe, St at e of Nevada, do her eby cer t i f y:
6 That at 9: 00 A. M. on Wednesday, t he 14t h day
7 of November , 2012, at t he of f i ces of Nevada St at e Bar ,
8 9456 Doubl e R Boul evar d, Reno, Nevada, per sonal l y appear ed
9 wi t nesses who wer e swor n by me and wer e deposed i n t he
10 mat t er ent i t l ed her ei n;
11 That sai d t r anscr i pt whi ch appear s
12 her ei nbef or e was t aken i n ver bat i mst enot ype not es by me,
13 a Cer t i f i ed Cour t Repor t er , and t her eaf t er r educed t o
14 wr i t i ng by means of comput er - assi st ed t r anscr i pt i on as
15 her ei n appear s;
16 That t he f or egoi ng t r anscr i pt , consi st i ng of
17 Pages 1 t hr ough 332, i ncl usi ve, i s a f ul l , t r ue and
18 cor r ect t r anscr i pt i on of my st enot ype not es of sai d
19 pr oceedi ngs;
20 I f ur t her cer t i f y t hat I amnot an at t or ney or
21 counsel f or any of t he par t i es, nor a r el at i ve or empl oyee
22 of any at t or ney or counsel connect ed wi t h t he act i on, nor
23 f i nanci al l y i nt er est ed i n t he act i on.
24 ______________________
CAROL HUMMEL, CCR #340
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shelters 111:13
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shopping 324:9
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shortly 22:23
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Fri day, 21 October 2011 18:18 Wi l l i am M. Wi ndsor
Judges and Court Clerks Violate the Law when Your Court Filings
are Denied or Disappear
One of the techniques used by corrupt judges and court clerks
is to do nothing with your filings.
Judge Orinda D. Evans, Judge William S. Duffey, Judge
Thomas W. Thrash, and Judge Jerry W. Baxter all use this
extremely illegal technique. Judge Duffey and Judge Thrash
have destroyed or hidden literally dozens of my filings over the
years.
We can fight this because the law is clear, so follow some basic
procedures, and you will have powerful proof....
Court clerks are duty-bound to know the law and to docket
and process the filings that they receive.
The key legal issue to know is this: Delivery of documents to the office of the clerk of the
court constitutes filing.
The office of the clerk has no legal right to block the docketing of anything that is properly
delivered to the clerk of the court. So, the mission is to ensure that your documents are
delivered to the clerk. You can do this by certified mail return receipt, Federal Express with
a direct signature required, or by personal delivery. The method you use doesn't matter;
the key is to get a signature to prove delivery to and receipt by someone in the office of the
clerk of the court. Hand delivering them yourself isn't best as it is awkward at best for you
to get a signed receipt. It's easy if you use a courier service or a friend acting as a courier
with a receipt form for the recipient to sign.
I always send a cover letter listing the precise documents tjhat are being filed. That, the
documents, and the signed receipt PROVES filing.
If anyone interferes with the docketing of the documents received by the clerk's office, I
consider that they have committed the crime of obstruction of justice, and I will attempt to
get criminal charges against them with the District Attorney and the Grand Jury.
Each document not properly forwarded is a violation of 18 U.S.C. 2076, which provides
for a fine and up to one year in jail. Each document concealed or destroyed is a violation of
18 U.S.C. 2071 and provides for a fine and up to three years in prison:
"(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or
destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any
record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with
any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any
judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
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(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document,
paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates,
falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office
under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term office does not
include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the
United States."
According to my calculations, James N. Hatten, Anniva Sanders, Beverly Gutting, and Joyce
White will be spending a loooong time in prison.
Federal Case Law
it is settled law that delivery of a pleading to a proper official is sufficient to
constitute filing thereof. United States v. Lombardo, 241 U.S. 73, 36 S. Ct. 508, 60
L. Ed. 897 (1916); Milton v. United States, 105 F.2d 253, 255 (5th Cir. 1939). In
Greeson v. Sherman, 265 F. Supp. 340 (D.C.Va.1967) it was held that a pleading
delivered to a deputy clerk at his home at night was thereby "filed." (Freeman v.
Giacomo Costa Fu Adrea, 282 F. Supp. 525 (E.D.Pa. 04/5/1968).)
FRCP Rule 5(d)(2): A paper is filed by delivering it: (A) to the clerk. FRCP
Rule 77 (a) When Court Is Open. Every district court is considered always open for filing
any paper, issuing and returning process, making a motion, or entering an order.
[emphasis added.]
The duty of the clerk is to make his record correctly represent the proceedings in the
case. (Wetmore v. Karrick, 27 S. Ct. 434, 205 U.S. 141 (U.S. 03/11/1907).)
Failing to file documents presented and reflect the documents on the docket is
a failure to perform the ministerial duties of the Clerk of the Court. [emphasis
added.]
his [Clerk of the Court] job is to file pleadings and other documents, maintain the
court's files and inform litigants of the entry of court orders." Sanders v. Department of
Corrections, 815 F. Supp. 1148, H49(N.D. Ill. 1993). (Williams v. Pucinski, 01C5588
(N.D.Ill. 01/13/2004).)
The clerk of a court, like the Recorder is required to accept documents filed. It is
not incumbent upon him to judicially determine the legal significance of the tendered
documents. In re Halladjian, 174 F. 834 (C.C.Mass.1909); United States, to Use of
Kinney v. Bell, 127 F. 1002 (C.C.E.D.Pa.1904); State ex rel. Kaufman v. Sutton, 231
So.2d 874 (Fla.App.1970); Malinou v. McElroy, 99 R.I. 277, 207 A.2d 44 (1965); State
ex rel. Wanamaker v. Miller, 164 Ohio St. 176, 177, 128 N.E.2d 110 (1955.).) (Daniel
K. Mayers Et Al., v. Peter S. Ridley Et Al. No. 71-1418 (06/30/72, United States Court
of Appeals for the DC Circuit.) [emphasis added.]
The specific allegation in Mr. Snyder's complaint is that Mr. Nolen, acting as the Circuit
Court Clerk, refused to file or actually removed already filed papers from the court's docket.
Under Illinois law, the clerk simply has the ministerial duty to file papers that
conform to the technical rules of court. See In re Estate of Davison, 430 N.E.2d 222, 223
(Ill. App. Ct. 1981) ("Delivery alone has been held to constitute filing since the person filing
has no control over the officer who receives documents. Subsequent ministerial tasks of the
clerk evidence the filing of a document but are not essential to its perfection." (internal
citation omitted)); Roesch-Zeller, Inc. v. Hollembeak, 124 N.E.2d 662, 664 (Ill. App.
Ct. 1955) ("The duty of the clerk to file the document on the date it was
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presented to him was a ministerial act, the performance of which could be compelled
by writ of mandamus."). (Snyder v. Nolen, 380 F.3d 279 (7th Circuit, 08/13/2004).)
[emphasis added.]
The word "filed" the Act uses, is, as applied to court proceedings, a word of art, having a
long established and well understood meaning, deriving from the practice of filing papers on
a string or wire. It requires of one filing a suit, merely the depositing of the
instrument with the custodian for the purpose of being filed. Except where some
specific statute otherwise provides, and none such is present here, it charges him with no
further duty, subjects him to no untoward consequences as a result of the failure of the
custodian to do his duty, by placing the instrument on the file, or as in modern practice
placing his file mark on the instrument. Collected in vol. 3 Words and Phrases, First
Series, pp. 2764-2770, inclusive; vol. 2 Words and Phrases, Second Series, pp. 531, 534, may
be found cases from many jurisdictions, all to the same effect, that the filing of a paper is
the delivery of it to the officer at his office, to be kept by him as a paper on file, and
that the file mark of the officer is evidence of the filing, but it is not the essential element of
the act. A paper may be filed without being marked or endorsed by the clerk, In re
Conant's Estate, 43 Or. 530, 73 P. 1018; Holman v. Chevaillier, 14 Tex. 337; Eureka
Stone Co. v. Knight, 82 Ark. 164, 100 S.W. 878; Darnell v. Flynn, 69 W.Va. 146, 71
S.E. 16. Perhaps the best statement of the meaning and consequences of filing is to be found
in the Chevaillier case, supra. "Though the ancient mode of filing papers has gone into
disuse, the phraseology of the ancient practice is retained, in the common expressions 'to
file,' 'to put on file,' 'to take off the file,' &c., from 'filum' the thread, string, or wire used in
ancient practice, for connecting the papers together. The term 'file' is also used to denote the
paper placed with the Clerk, and assigned by the law to his official keeping. A file is a record
of the Court.(1 Litt., 112; Burr. L.D. tit. File.) It is the duty of the Clerk, when a paper is thus
placed in his custody or 'filed' with him, to endorse upon it the date of its reception, and
retain it in his office, subject to inspection by whomsoever it may concern; and that is what is
meant by his 'filing' the paper. But where the law requires or authorizes a party to
file it, it simply means that he shall place it in the official custody of the Clerk.
That is all that is required of him; and if the officer omits the duty of endorsing upon it the
date of the filing, that should not prejudice the rights of the party. And hence it is the
common practice, where that has been omitted, for the officer, with the sanction of the
Court, to make the endorsement now for then; the doing of the act now, that is, at the time
when it is actually done, being allowed to operate as a substitute and equivalent for doing it
then, or when it should have been done. And acts thus allowed to be done by the Clerk of the
Court, with the sanction of the Court, have the same effect as if they had been done at the
proper time. (1 Stra. 639; 2 Tidd's Pr. 932.) It was the filing of the affidavit and certificate by
the party, under the statute, and not the endorsement of the date of their reception, or the
filing by the Clerk, which was a condition precedent to the issuing of the execution in this
case. The object of the motion to obtain the authority of the Court for the filing of the clerk
now for then was that the Court might receive evidence of the time of the actual filing by the
party, in order that the filing by the Clerk might relate back, and take effect from that
period, as though it had been done then, when it should have been done. (Milton v. United
States., 105 F.2d 253 (5th Cir. 07/06/1939).) Johansson v. Towson, 177 F. Supp. 729
(M.D.Ga. 02/17/1959). [emphasis added.]
The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure provide that 'The district courts shall be deemed
always open for the purpose of filing any pleading * * *' Rule 77(a); that 'The clerk's office
with the clerk or a deputy clerk in attendance shall be open during business hours on all days
except Sundays and legal holidays * * *', Rule 77(c); that 'A civil action is commenced by
filing a complaint with the court', Rule 3 and that 'The filing of pleadings and other papers
with the court as required by these rules shall be made by filing them with the clerk of the
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court, except that the judge may permit the papers to be filed with him, in which event he
shall note thereon the filing date and forthwith transmit them to the office of the clerk.' Rule
5(e), 28 U.S.C.A. The tracing of our word 'file' to the Latin word 'filum' and its reference to
the ancient practice of placing papers on a thread or wire for safekeeping and later reference
is done in many cases, notably in United States v. Lombardo, 1916, 241 U.S. 73, 36 S.
Ct. 508, 60 L. Ed. 897 and more recently in Milton v. United States, 5 Cir., 1939, 105
F.2d 253, 255. The latter case points out that all that is required on the part of a
person filing a paper with an official is 'merely the depositing of the
instrument with the custodian for the purpose of being filed'. (See Palcar Real
Estate Co. v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 8 Cir., 1942, 131 F.2d 210;
Schultz v. United States, Ct.Cl.1955, 132 F.Supp. 953, 955; McCord v.
Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 1941, 74 App.D.C. 369, 123 F.2d 164, 165;
Central Paper Co. v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, 6 Cir., 1952, 199 F.2d
902, 904. (Johansson v. Towson, 177 F. Supp. 729 (M.D.Ga. 02/17/1959).) [emphasis
added.]
The filing of a paper takes place upon the delivery of it to the officer at his
office. Milton v. United States, 5th Cir. 1939, 105 F.2d 253; Poynor v.
Commissioner, 5th Cir. 1936, 81 F.2d 521. When the mails are utilized for the purpose of
filing an instrument, the filing takes place upon delivery at the office of the official required to
receive it. Wampler v. Snyder, 1933, 62 App. D.C. 215, 66 F.2d 195. (Phinney v. Bank
of Southwest National Association, 335 F.2d 266 (5th Cir. 08/05/1964).) (See also
United States v. Missco Homestead Ass'n Inc., 185 F.2d 283 (8th Cir. 11/01/1950).)
(Dienstag v. St. Paul Fire & Marine Ins. Co., 164 F. Supp. 603 (S.D.N.Y. 11/18/1957);
Thorndal v. Smith, Wild, Beebe & Cades, 339 F.2d 676 (8th Cir. 01/04/1965); Lone
Star Producing Co. v. Gulf Oil Corp., 208 F. Supp. 85 (E.D.Tex. 07/17/1962).)
[emphasis added.]
Although Lombardo was decided before the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure were
promulgated, courts have relied on it and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 3, 5(e), and
77 for the same proposition. See, e.g., Milton v. United States, 105 F.2d 253, 255 (5th
Cir. 1939)("The word 'filed' . . . requires of one filing a suit, merely the depositing
of the instrument with the custodian for the purpose of being filed. Except
where specific statute otherwise provides, and none such is present here, it
charges him with no further duty, [and] subjects him to no untoward
consequences."); Greeson v. Sherman, 265 F.Supp. 340, 342 (W.D. Va. 1967)("[I]f rule
3 is read in conjunction with Rule 5(e) . . . [a complaint is filed when] the complaint is
delivered to an officer of the court who is authorized bo receive it."); Freeman v.
Giacomo Costa Fu Andrea, 282 F.Supp. 525, 527 (E.D.Pa. 1968)("[I]t is settled law that
delivery of a pleading to a proper official is sufficient to constitute filing thereof.") In
Cintron v. Union Pacific R. Co., 813 F.2d 917, 920 (9th Cir. 1987), the court said: The
consensus is that "[p]apers and pleadings including the original complaint are considered
filed when they are placed in the possession of the clerk of the court." C. Wright & A. Miller,
Federal Practice and Procedure 1153 (1969). See United States v. Dae Rim
Fishery Co., 794 F.2d 1392, 1395 (9th Cir. 1986). The court then discussed earlier cases,
including Loya v. Desert Sands Unified School Dist., 721 F.2d 279 (9th Cir. 1983).
(Stone Street Capital, Inc. v. McDonald's Corp., 300 F.Supp.2d 345 (D.Md.
11/06/2003).) [emphasis added.]
Filing is complete once the document is delivered to and received by the
proper official. United States v. Lombardo, 241 U.S. 73, 76, 36 S.Ct. 508, 60 L.Ed.
897 (1916). Although Lombardo was decided before the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure
were promulgated, courts have relied on it and Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 3, 5(e), and
77 for the same proposition. See, e.g., Milton v. United States, 105 F.2d 253, 255 (5th
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Cir. 1939); Greeson v. Sherman, 265 F. Supp. 340, 342 (W.D.Va. 1967) ("If Rule 3 is read
in conjunction with Rule 5 (e) . . . [a complaint is filed when] the complaint is delivered to an
officer of the court who is authorized to receive it."); Freeman v. Giacomo Costa Fu
Andrea, 282 F. Supp. 525, 527 (E.D.Pa. 1968) ("[I]t is settled law that delivery of a
pleading to a proper official is sufficient to constitute filing thereof."). (Central States, SE
& SW Pension v. Paramount Liquor, 34 F.Supp.2d 1092 (N.D.Ill. 02/09/1999).)
[emphasis added.]
The docketing of filed documents is a ministerial act that the Office of the
Clerk is obligated to perform. (See Ray v. United States, 57 S. Ct. 700, 301 U.S. 158
(U.S. 04/26/1937).) [emphasis added.]
State Case Law
I have researched Georgia cases, and here are the citations that I found applicable. I suspect
the law will be the same in every state, so simply research your state's case law if you are in
a state court. If you research your state, please send me what you come up with, and I will
add the citations for the benefit of those in your state.
"The duties of the clerk relating to the filing of complaints are ministerial in
nature . . ." Orr v. Culpepper, 161 Ga. App. 801, 804 (288 S.E.2d 898) (1982). "It is the
official duty of the clerk of a court to file all papers in a cause presented by
the parties, and to mark them filed, with the date of filing. [Cits.]" (Brinson v. Georgia
RR Bank &c. Co., 45 Ga. App. 459 at 460 (165 SE 321) (1932).) [emphasis added.]
The habeas court clerk's duty to file a notice of appeal is ministerial in nature,
and it was beyond her duty or power to concern herself with the legal viability
of a notice presented to her for filing. See Orr v. Culpepper, 161 Ga. App. 801, 804
(288 SE2d 898) (1982). By rejecting Hughes' timely notice of appeal, the clerk of the habeas
court, in effect, determined its legal insufficiency and then undertook to dismiss the appeal.
In so doing, she usurped this Court's authority to determine its own jurisdiction. (Hughes v.
Sikes, 273 Ga. 804, 546 S.E.2d 518 (Ga. 05/07/2001).) [emphasis added.]
"The actual date of filing is the date upon which the paper is handed to the
clerk to be filed. [Cits.]. So, where a motion for new trial has been delivered for filing to
the clerk, it will be deemed filed even though that officer fails to make the proper entry of
filing thereon." Brinson v. Georgia RR Bank &c. Co., 45 Ga. App. 459, 461 (165 SE 321)
(1932). It is beyond the purview of the clerk to be concerned with the legal
viability of a pleading presented to the clerk for filing. See Hughes v. Sikes, 273
Ga. 804 (1) (546 SE2d 518) (2001) (where clerk returned notice of appeal for
supplementation); Gibbs v. Spencer Industries, 244 Ga. 450, 451 (260 SE2d 342)
(1979). (Hood v. State, 651 S.E.2d 88, 282 Ga. 462 (Ga. 09/24/2007).) [emphasis
added.]
"Causing a paper 'to be actually placed in the hands of the clerk of a trial court
within the time prescribed by law for filing the same in [the clerk's] office is all
that is, in this respect, required of' a party." Gibbs v. Spencer Industries, 244
Ga. 450, 451 (260 SE2d 342) (1979). "The actual date of filing is the date upon which the
paper is handed to the clerk to be filed. [Cits.]. So, where a motion for new trial has
been delivered for filing to the clerk, it will be deemed filed even though that
officer fails to make the proper entry of filing thereon." Brinson v. Georgia RR
Bank &c. Co., 45 Ga. App. 459, 461 (165 SE 321) (1932). It is beyond the purview of
the clerk to be concerned with the legal viability of a pleading presented to the
clerk for filing. See Hughes v. Sikes, 273 Ga. 804 (1) (546 SE2d 518) (2001); Gibbs v.
Spencer Industries, supra, 244 Ga. 450. [emphasis added.]
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If pleadings are delivered to the clerk for filing they will be deemed filed even
though the proper entry of filing is not made thereon. See Brinson v. Ga. R.
Bank &c. Co., 45 Ga. App. 459, 461, supra; Cooper v. Nisbet, 119 Ga. 752 (1), 755 (47
S.E. 173). (05/12/78 Boston Sea Party Atlanta v. Bryant, 246 S.E.2d 350, 146 Ga.
App. 294.) (See also Lavan et al. v. Philips, 362 S.E.2d 138, 184 Ga. App. 573
(10/19/87).) [emphasis added.]
"The actual date of filing is the date upon which the paper is handed to the
clerk to be filed. [Cit.]" Brinson v. Ga. R. Bank &c. Co., supra, p. 461. (H. R. Lee
Investment Corporation v. Groover, 225 S.E.2d 742, 138 Ga. App. 231 (03/19/76).)
[emphasis added.]
18 U.S.C. 2071 Case Law:
United States v. Conlin, 551 F.2d 534 (2nd Cir. 03/17/1977); United States v.
Claypoole, 227 F.2d 752 (3rd Cir. 12/07/1955); United States v. Donner, 497 F.2d 184
(7th Cir. 05/03/1974); United States v. May, 625 F.2d 186 (8th Cir. 05/30/1980);
United States v. Salazar, 455 F.3d 1022 (9th Cir. 07/24/2006); United States v.
Lang, No. 02-4075 (10th Cir. 04/21/2004). This case has some very good information --
United States v. Rosner, 352 F. Supp. 915 (S.D.N.Y. 12/14/1972). 18 U.S.C. 2071
case Law Search Results from versuslaw.com.
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1 8 USC 2 07 6 - Cler k of Unit ed St at es Dist r ict Cour t
Whoev er , being a cler k of a dist r ict cour t of t he Unit ed St at es, willfully r efuses or neglect s t o make or
for war d any r epor t , cer t ificat e, st at ement , or document as r equir ed by law, shall be fined under t his
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