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First, how do you feel with the National Honour bestowed on you by Mr.
President?
Honour where? You mean the one that was given to me in January. Well, that is not
new to me and is not something special to me. As you can see for yourself, a lot of
people, organisations, government, home and abroad and even foreign missions have
been honouring the grace of God upon my life. Just last week, the National Association
of Nigerian Students (NANS) presented me with an award. But then, the honour is not
meant for me, it belongs to God. I am just a vessel God is using.
First, it was your meeting with the Governor General of the State of
Bahamas in the early 90s, followed by the visit of President Frederick
Chiluba of Zambia, a few years later. Since then, other world leaders have
come to visit you, most recently, was the new President of Ghana, Prof. John
Atta Mills and you are preparing to receive a South African leader in the
next few days, what do you think is the source of attraction?
It is a simple answer; it is because their needs are met. People will always be
attracted to wherever their needs will be met; and the needs of men vary. What I want
and like might be different from what you want; so, you will always go to where your
needs are met. It is not in my power, it is God, who is answering the needs of his
people. Even in the Bible, people travel far and wide to where their needs will be met.
Also, the work of God is like honey. Wherever honey is, insects seek and find it. When
God is doing a new thing in a place, people are attracted there. So, these presidents
and other foreign nationals come to the church, because of what God is doing here.
Despite this, most Nigerians have still not acknowledged what God is using
you to do. Why is it so?
You see, every man of God has his gift. This is my own area. In the academic world,
we have professors of English, Chemistry, and Mathematics. If some people do not
need my gift, this does not mean that it is not needed somewhere. If what you have is
not needed now, that does not mean that it will not be needed tomorrow. So, it would
be too soon to begin to say this and it would be too soon to praise or come to the
conclusion you have drawn now. God's time is the best. Sometimes, what you need at
the end might be the most important thing to you. Let me give you a good example: a
friend you discover later in life may be the most important friend you would cherish
more than the friend you have had from the beginning of your life.
Apart from the headquarters' church in Lagos, which has become a tourist
attraction, do you have other branches of the church?
Branches everywhere is not the issue, what is the issue now is making disciples of
Christ out of men, making another T.B. Joshua. If this could be possible in the life of
Elisha and Elisha came out of Elijah even more powerful than his master, why not also
in our time, so that after I am gone, there will be men who God would raise up to
achieve His purpose in the world. That is the biggest reward God can give to his
servant. Like they always say, there is no success without a good successor. The
greatest honour will be to make disciples who will do better than what we are
presently doing.
Do you see your children taking after your ministry in the Synagogue?
The ministry is not a will; it is not a property you can will to your children. It is a
spiritual inheritance and the Bible talks about the inheritance of saints. You must meet
God's condition and no human hand can be employed to do the work of God, neither
can the mouth do the work of God. It is not a matter of 'I can speak good grammar', it
is only God that will choose who He wants. It is predestined, as it should be by divine
will. I cannot force my children to follow in my footsteps, they have to decide on their
own, and I can only point them to the way we also have followed. I cannot give them
the power because I am not the owner of the power. I can only do my best to train
them in the way of the Lord and if they are ready to follow and make a difference, it is
their choice, not mine.