Wales Tales

A Monthly Publication of the Church of Saint David of Wales Denton, Texas

October 2013
Proclaiming and Practicing the Historic Faith Traditional Anglican Worship www.stdavidsdenton.org, e-mail to office@stdavidsdenton.org

From Our Rector

Canon H.W. Herrmann, SSC, VI Rector

Dear Parish Family and Friends: Fall is my favorite season of the year. What is your favorite? I will share my top five reasons why fall is my favorite. Number one: less heat to deal with outside; number two: a reminder that in order for there to be new life, the old must pass away; number three: the beauty of Gods creation might be enjoyed; number four: a new time of learning begins to grow closer to God; number five: a sense of being refreshed and renewed and looking forward to what God has in store for me each and every day. I can also add maybe the best reason to enjoy the season of fall this year: I have called a new priest to work with me in spreading the Good News both within and outside the walls of Saint David of Wales Church! You will read a letter to the parish by our new Curate, Father Clint Wilson, elsewhere in this issue of Wales Tales. Father Clints arrival will impact every single member of our parish family. How so? Shared leadership. Part of our job as clergy is to raise up new, and hopefully, improved leaders for God and His Church. Your vestry has become very forward looking in its approach to ministry. As we did a self -study of the make-up of our congregation, it became abundantly clear that like most churches, we are an aging congregation. Thanks to our former Senior Warden, Tommy Caruthers, we embarked on a youth movement; literally. First was to bolster our Christian Education for youth which has been accomplished under the hiring of Joyce JonesDuffey. Next was the intentional switch of format at our 5:00 p.m. Sunday liturgy to be more college-age (emerging adults) friendly and that was accomplished through our in-house musicians and now the hiring of Father Clint to our clergy staff. Our next emphasis will be on families with young children and it will be exciting to see what we, working in conjunction with the Holy Spirit, will develop and offer our congregation.

These are truly exciting times in the history and life of the parish. In addition, we are about to re-dedicate Saint Augustine of Canterbury Chapel that will have a new floor, some new walls and some spiritual wall hangings to give the chapel a more inviting, prayerful appearance. The final pieces of trim work are being done thanks to the handiwork of Dave Mays and Tom Williams and the many donors, who will be recognized for their generosity. Small measures of faith can make huge differences in our common life together. We now have a brand new Junior Daughters of the King chapter for the girls of our parish because some current members of the Daughters of the King believed it was important for the parish and particularly these young women to grow spiritually in their love of God and neighbor. Thanks to Betsy Kensinger and all who have worked so hard to make this new ministry a reality. It is not too late for others to join in this new ministry. It is a very good thing to be a loving, believing Christian today. It is an even better thing to be an active, loving, believing Christian. How is God calling you to work in the parish for the up-building of her people? These, truly, are exciting times in our history. See you in church.

The Curates Commentary

Father Clint Wilson, Curate,

Dear Saint David's Community: Theresa and I are so happy to be joining in ministry with you here in this town we have so quickly come to love, Denton. Canon Herrmann and I thought it might be good for you to know a bit more about our journey

here and our background in life and ministry, so I have prepared a 73 page infographic to be handed out...just kidding. I (Clint) was born in Birmingham, Alabama, where I was raised and attended college. I am happy to inform you that I am an Alabama football fan--hopefully this does not disqualify me for ministry in Texas! Theresa was born in Mobile, Alabama, on the coast, but she spent the majority of her life leading up to college living in the country of Panama where her parents were missionaries. We met in college and were married after my first year of seminary and have been happily married for over six years now. I attended seminary (the first time) in Denver, where I focused in on the academic discipline of Biblical Studies as I thought I wanted to be a professor. God eventually called me to the priesthood through our local parish, and we ended up at Nashotah House Theological Seminary to finish my Master of Divinity degree (Father Herrmann is also a "son of the House"). Theresa's passion in life is leadership development of college students and student affairs in higher education. She has worked in her field for over 10 years and hopes to find a position at either UNT or TWU soon!
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A Call to Prayer
Deacon Carol Hobson

The Church has always been under persecution somewhere in the world. There have been martyrs throughout the ages. When we think of Christian martyrs we may think first of those believers who were martyred under one of the Roman emperors. In modern times, however, there have been many martyrs from the civil rights unrest in the 1960s in our own country to Christians in South Africa, Rwanda, Uganda, Indonesia, and now throughout the Middle East. Most recently were those killed in the mall in Kenya because they could not answer a particular question about Islam. Christian churches are burned and bombed, ministers and missionaries are jailed, and believers are tortured and even killed simply for their beliefs in Christianity. They desperately need our prayers! We in the US feel only a slight pressure against Christians in schools and our workplaces or when the separation of church and state is argued. But we have such freedom here to practice our religion. Its easy for us to go our merry way, back and forth to Church every week, and never think about what other Christians are going through. We would like to call the good people of Saint Davids to a season of prayer and fasting for the month of October: for peace in all the world; for a cessation of persecution of Christians throughout the world; and that a spirit of wisdom will rule the governance of tribes and nations. You may say that what is going on in the Middle East is a family feud going all the way back to Cain and Abel. God is a big God and He solves big problems. Please consider a fast on Wednesdays in Octoberor abstinence from sugar, salt, Starbucks, television, or whatever you are given to do. Evening prayer will be said each Wednesday at 6:00 p.m. prior to the healing liturgy, with special emphasis on prayer support for those suffering for their faith. There will be news articles and scripture references and other material available for you to use, or take home.

What are our passions in ministry? In no particular order, they are: outreach/mission, youth/college/young adults ministry, preaching/teaching, relational discipleship, and leadership development. We have varying degrees of experience in all of these areas and look forward to how they are expressed at Saint David of Wales. In our down time, we love to spend time with our dog, Denver (a female Lab/Chow mix), do all things outdoors (hiking, camping, canoeing, kayaking, etc.), watch movies, play games, listen to music, discover amazing restaurants, go on road trips, and, more recently, explore Denton and the surrounding area! Because we both love being with people, doing all the above with a group of friends is an added bonus. I hope you find our presence here to be a blessing to the church and the city of Denton. I would especially love to connect with you and hear your story as well. Please take any opportunity you have to connect with me so we can set up a time to meet in the coming months (I will have a church email address and phone number soon). It is a privilege and honor to be entrusted with ministering to this community and we are excited about how "God's will may be done on earth as it in heaven" here in Denton.

Around the Parish

HELP!!!Father Clint and his wife need a place to live. They are looking for a two or three bedroom home near the church and universities with a fenced backyard for their dog, Denver. Also, Theresa is looking for employment in a university setting or related field. you have some suggestions, please call Holly to pass them along to the Wilsons.

Blessing of the Animalsis this Saturday, October 5, at 10:00 a.m. on the parish lawn. Bring the animal members of your family to be blessed by Canon Herrmann. The Red MassSunday, October 20 at 5:00 p.m. here at Saint Davids. All who have any connection of any kind with the University of North Texas, Texas Womens University, or North Central Texas College are welcome! Join us! Hosting the Pre-Convention Meetingwhat will be going on at Saint Davids on Saturday, October 26? When you drive by, you will see a whole host of cars in the parking lot as we host the pre-convention convocation meeting for the Diocese. This will be for delegates, but anyone is welcome to come at 10:00 a.m. for information concerning the Diocesan Convention in November that will be presented. All Saints Day and All Souls Daywe will celebrate All Saints Day On Thursday, October 31 at 9:30 a.m. All Souls Day will be celebrated on Saturday, November 2, at 9:00 a.m. We will include the names of our departed in the bulletin to be remembered at the mass. Please fill out the form in the bulletins and return to Holly in the parish office no later than Sunday, October 28. You can also email Holly with your list of names at office@stdavidsdenton.org. Daylight Savings Timejust a reminder that Daylight Savings Time ends at 2:00 a.m. on Sunday, November 3. Remember to set your clocks back one hour before you go to bed.

Organizations and Ministries

Cursilloour parish Ultreya is Sunday, October 13, from 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. in the parish hall. Everyone who has made their Cursillo or anyone who wants to know more about Cursillo are invited to share in this time of fellowship. Child care is available. Please Contact Betsy Kensinger at b.kensinger@hotmail.com, Dave Mays at elkhound1@verizon.net, or Jolayne LaCour at jolaynelacour@yahoo.com with questions. Daughters of the Kingwill meet on Saturday, October 12 at 10:00 a.m. in the parish library. The Golden Nookthe Nook is having a sale the first two Sundays in October. Check out our sale merchandise in the parish hall and while youre shopping look at the new things coming in! We have lots of new wall and stand up crosses, new ceramic dcor, candles and new door signs and plaques. Shop the Nook first! Junior Daughters of the Kingwill meet on Sunday, October 6 and Sunday, October 20 at 12:15 p.m. in the parish library for training. Men of Saint Davids (MOSD)will meet on Saturday, October 19 at 8:00 a.m. for Morning Prayer in the chapel followed by breakfast. The Order of Saint LukeCan you find 20 books of the Bible in this paragraph? Someone showed me this story and remarked that there are twenty books of the Bible hidden here. He challenged me to find them. Sure enough theyre all here. Still this things a lulu, kept me looking so hard for the longest time. Some of you will get bogged down with facts, others are hit by them like they were some kind of revelation or something. You may get in a jam, especially since the names are not capitalized and often leap the spaces between words. This makes it a real job to find them but itll provide a most fascinating few minutes for you. Yes, there are some really easy ones to spot, but dont get the big head cause truthfully youll soon figure that it would take most federal judges and preachers numbers of hours to find them all. I will admit that it usually takes a minister to find one of them and that is not uncommon for there are to be loud lamentations when it is pointed out. One lady says that when she is confronted with puzzles like this she brews a cup of tea to help you concentrate better, but then this gals a real pro! Verbs, nouns, and all that stuff are her thing. See how well

Christian Education
Adult Bible Studyeach Thursday afternoons at 2:30 p.m. in the library. Come and see! College Students Bible Studyweekly Bible study continues Thursdays at 7:00 p.m. Join us! For questions, please contact Jolayne LaCour call 940-3902592 at jolaynelacour@yahoo.com. In support of our college ministry in Denton and their fall Bible Study, we wish to thank all those who helped provide the meals for these students during their meetings at Saint Davids. The students were most appreciative of the foods provided as well as the spirit in which they were given. We look forward to bringing more college students into this group and continuing their bible study.

you can compete. Relax! There really are twenty names of Bible books in this story. If you fail to find them theres a penalty. Youll have to go fly a kite, sit on a banana, hum the Battle Hymn of the Republic, or hose a dog (a mean one). Get to it! I will give you the answers next month so hang onto your puzzles! I give you fair warning, one answer is very,very tricky. Have fun! The Order of Saint Luke Associate Members Inductionson Sunday, October 6, during the 10:30 liturgy new Associate Members will be inducted into the Order of Saint Luke. These candidates will confirm their desire to become members of OSL by promising to commit themselves to a period of preparation which will consist of undertaking a study of the Healing Miracles of Christ documented in the Gospels and reading of books on Christian healing. The new Associate members are Lee Stafki and Geri Chafin. The Women of Saint Davidsthe WOSD is sponsoring an evening of fun and laughter on Saturday, October 19 at 6:00 p.m., in the parish hall. Dr. Donald Pickens and Dr. Wayne Zimmermann will present a humorous and satirical interpretation on a few of the many questions we ponder with regard to church practices. The evening includes hors doeuvres, wine and dessert. Tickets are available in the Golden Nook. Tickets $15/person or $25 per couple. Contact Lana Cruse at cruselana@gmail.com for child care reservations by October 11. All profits go to support the projects of the WOSD including Youth of Saint Davids, summer camp scholarships, Interfaith Ministries Apple Tree project and Denton Shop with a Cop.

How Has Saint Davids Been Involved?: We have a number of parishioners that volunteer for The Gathering. Some come to hand out food while others provide music for the service. How Can We Help?: As part of his ministry and formation in the diaconate at the Stanton Center, Lee Stafki, in coordination with Canon Herrmann and Deacon Carol, has volunteered to work with the congregation at Saint Davids to provide food for one Sunday service this year. We will be providing the food necessary to make the meals. We need to collect enough food to feed 95 people. Another congregation in the Diocese has partnered with us to prepare the meals, putting the food into sack lunches, and passing out the meals after the service. The Meals: We have found that sack type lunches which include a sandwich, chips, fruit, and cookies or other sweets can be the easiest for both the churches and our homeless friends. We need lunch meats, cheeses, bread, chips, fruit, and snacks. In addition we need to provide bottled water for each meal served (approximately 4-5 cases). What to Do & When to Do It: A roster is posted in the narthex to sign up to bring food. This ensures that we get enough of each type of food to make all 95 lunches. Please sign up now! All items must be collected no later than November 15. Items will be stored in the parish refrigerator and freezer so you can bring items sooner than November 15. If you have any questions please see Lee Stafki.

Saint of the Month

Robert Grosseteste, Bishop of Lincoln, October 9

Saint David of Wales Date to Serve is November 17

All items must be collected by November 15

What is The Gathering? The Gathering is a ministry of the Diocese of Dallas to feed the homeless in downtown Dallas. Each Sunday, volunteers gather at Thanksgiving Square in Dallas, conduct a worship service and then provide nutritious meals for homeless friends. Approximately 95 meals are provided each week to those in need.

Had the leaders of the thirteenth century heeded this preacher, many of the disasters of the following three centuries might have been avoided. Robert was a peasant lad from Suffolk, born about 1175. He distinguished himself at Oxford in law, medicine, languages, natural sciences, and theology. He became what is now called Chancellor of Oxford University.

In 1235, he was elected Bishop of Lincoln, in area the largest diocese in England. He promptly visited all the churches in the diocese and quickly removed many of the prominent clergy because they were neglecting their pastoral duties. He vigorously opposed the practice by which the Pope appointed Italians as absentee clergy for English churches (collecting salaries from said churches without ever setting foot in the country). He insisted that his priests spend their time in the service of their people, in prayer, and in study. He went on a pilgrimage to Rome, where he spoke out boldly against ecclesiastical abuses. Back in England, he spoke against unlawful usurpations of power by the monarch, and was one of those present at the signing of the Magna Carta. Grosseteste's scholarly writings embraced many fields of learning. He translated into Latin the Ethics of Aristotle and the theological works of John of Damascus and of the fifth-century writer known as Dionysius the Areopagite. He was skilled in poetry, music, architecture, mathematics, astronomy, optics, and physics (one of his pupils was Roger Bacon). His writings on the first chapter of Genesis include an interesting anticipation of modern cosmological ideas. (He read that the first thing created was light, and said that the universe began with pure energy exploding from a point source.) He knew Hebrew and Greek, and his Biblical studies were a notable contribution to the scholarship of the day.

Rose; 10/17 Jim and Barbara Marlow; 10/25 Wayne and Kathleen LaComb. Our prayers and best wishes for those celebrating their birthday: 10/1 Caleb Prater, Nina Austin; 10/2 Jeanne Schneider; 10/3 Jon Ponsonby; 10/4 Drell Goff; 10/6 Brett McDaniel, Peter Nemanic, Autumn Rainey; 10/8 Carolyn Edgmon, David Williamson; 10/9 Jack Jones, Karen Reidy; 10/10 Jenny Walsh; 10/11 Dylan Hall; 10/13 Lucille Scott, Janette Swadley; 10/16 Mark Wallace; 10/17 Harry Phillips III, Matthew Febre; 10/18 Mary Kraemer; 10/19 Mike McMillen; 10/20 David Sims, Crystal Odom; 10/21 Byron Hundley, Glenda Connor; 10/22 Tommy Caruthers; 10/23 Rande Caldwell; 10/26 Larry Shultz, Deborah Leggett; 10/27 Kathryn Barber; 10/28 Dave Ruev, Jay Anderson, Evan Jones, Lana Cruse; 10/29 Rande Probst; 10/31 Vern Bassett, Shannon McKeown.

Church Humor and Inspiration

Church Ladies with Typewritersthose wonderful church bulletins! These sentences actually appeared in church bulletins or were announced at church services The sermon this morning: Jesus Walks on the Water, the sermon tonight, Searching for Jesus. Ladies, dont forget the rummage sale. Its a chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. Dont let the worry kill you off let the church help. These are five funny things said by kids about the Bible.
1. Noah's wife was called Joan of Ark.

Parish Register
Welcome to our New Members: Father Clint and Teresa Wilson are coming to us from Nashotah House. Gary Fulton comes to us by letter of transfer from The Episcopal Church of the Transfiguration in Dallas. James Meine has joined us by letter of transfer from Palmer Memorial Episcopal Church in Houston. Our faithful departed: Ellie Whitmore. The bereaved: the Whitmore family.

2. The first commandment was when Eve told Adam to eat the apple. 3. Solomon, one of David's sons, had 300 wives and 700 porcupines. 4. Jesus was born because Mary had an immaculate contraption. 5. The epistles were the wives of the apostles. Start by doing whats necessary; then do whats possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible Saint Francis of Assisi

October Anniversaries & Birthdays

Our prayers and best wishes for those celebrating their wedding anniversary: 10/3 Van and Toni Sams; 10/5 Ray and Estelle Powell; 10/8 Bonnie and Jim Ivins; 10/11 Jeanie and Scott Porter; 10/12 Jamie and Ben Miller, Dana and Drell Goff, Katie and Tony

Sunday Ministry Schedules

Sunday, October 6
Acolytes: Team I Altar Guild: Team II Hospitality: 8:00 a.m. Prescott Andrews Ushers: 8:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. 5:00 p.m. Rousey Easley Baird Odom Golden Nook: 8:00 a.m. Touraine 10:30 a.m. Odom LEMs: 8:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. 5:00 p.m. Rousey Stafki Stafki Fitzpatrick

Sunday, October 20
Acolytes: Team III Altar Guild: Team I Hospitality: 8:00 a.m. Touraine Rousey 10:30 a.m. Hundley Bussell Ushers: 8:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. 5:00 p.m. Millard Stafki Stafki Barrera Golden Nook: 8:00 a.m. Touraine 10:30 a.m. Fisher

LEMs: 8:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. 5:00 p.m.

Vestry Greeters: 8:00 a.m. Stanphill 10:30 a.m. Hays

Chafin Davis Johnston Sager

Sunday, October 13
Acolytes: Team II Altar Guild: Team IV Hospitality: 8:00 a.m. Parker Chafin 10:30 a.m. Seatvet Siegmund Ushers: 8:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. 5:00 p.m. Touraine Mays Howington Odom Golden Nook: 8:00 a.m. Touraine 10:30 a.m. Hale

Vestry Greeters: 8:00 a.m. Blankson 10:30 a.m. Stafki

Sunday, October 27
Acolytes: Team IV Altar Guild: Team III Hospitality: 8:00 a.m. Johnson Reese 10:30 a.m. Nichols Nichols Ushers: 8:00 a.m. Blankson 10:30 a.m. Caldwell Fitzpatrick 5:00 p.m. Barrera Golden Nook: 8:00 a.m. Touraine 10:30 a.m. Holland

LEMs: 8:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. 8:00 p.m.

Parker Kensinger Herrmann Garrett

LEMs: 8:00 a.m. 10:30 a.m. 5:00 p.m.

Vestry Greeters: 8:00 a.m. Millard 10:30 a.m. Oliver Vestry

Canon H.W. Herrmann, SSC, Rector 940.566.5251 fatherherrmann@stdavidsdenton.org Mark Oliver, Senior Warden 940.387.8217 mdo211@yahoo.com Edith Hays, Junior Warden 940.387.0732 deedeehays@aol.com Chelsey Stafki, Clerk of the Vestry 940.482.1901 chelseystafki@pwhome.com John Andrews 940.566.1938 jsa@jsandrews.com Charles Blankson 940.387.4904 Joe Millard 940.498.1469 Lynn Rousey 972.317.0405 Lynn Stanphill 214.549.8246 Tom Swartz 940.395.1165 blanksoc@unt.edu cleonref@aol.com lynnrousey@verizon.net lynn@xeara.com tswartz@leisd.ws

Phillips Bradbury Hale Hodges

Vestry Greeters: 8:00 a.m. Rousey 10:30 a.m. Oliver

Financial Report from Treasurer, Tom Sanders:

These budgetary numbers were presented and received at the September meeting of the Vestry. Income August Actual August Budget $ 27,232 $ 24,775 YTD actual YTD budget $ 221, 503 $ 198, 200 Expense August Actual August Budget $ 28, 380 $ 26, 128 YTD actual YTD budget $ 198, 417 $ 209, 538

OCTOBER 2013
SUN MON TUES
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9:00 Cursillo Group

WED
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6:00 Cursillo Group 6:00 Evening Prayer and Healing Mass

THUR
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9:30 Morning Prayer and Holy Eucharist 2:30 Bible Study

FRI
4 5

SAT
10:00 Blessing of the Animals 10:00 DOK Training

Rectors Day Off

6
8:00 Holy Eucharist 9:15 Christian Ed 10:30 Holy Eucharist 12:15 Jr DOK 5:00 Holy Eucharist

8
9:00 Cursillo Group

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6:00 Cursillo Group 6:00 Evening Prayer and Healing Mass

10
9:30 Morning Prayer and Holy Eucharist 2:30 Bible Study

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10:00 DOK Training 10:00 DOK

Rectors Day Off

13
8:00 Holy Eucharist 9:15 Christian Ed 10:30 Holy Eucharist 2:00 Ultreya 5:00 Holy Eucharist

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9:00 Cursillo Group

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6:00 Cursillo Group 6:00 Evening Prayer and Healing Mass

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9:30 Morning Prayer and Holy Eucharist 2:30 Bible Study

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8:00 MOSD 6:00 WOSD Dueling Professors

Rectors Day Off

20
8:00 Holy Eucharist 9:15 Christian Ed 10:30 Holy Eucharist 12:15 Jr DOK 5:00 The Red Mass

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22
9:00 Cursillo Group

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6:00 Cursillo Group 6:00 Evening Prayer and Healing Mass

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9:30 Morning
Prayer and Holy Eucharist 12:00 OSL 2:30 Bible Study

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10:00 Convocation Meeting

Rectors Day Off

27
8:00 Holy Eucharist 9:15 Christian Ed 10:30 Holy Eucharist 5:00 Holy Eucharist

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9:00 Cursillo Group

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6:00 Cursillo Group 6:00 Evening Prayer and Healing Mass

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9:30 All Saints
2:30 Bible Study

Octobers Sunday Lectionary

Sunday, October 6 Proper 22 Habakkuk 1: 2-13 2 Timothy 1: 1-14 Luke 17: 5-10 Sunday, October 13 Proper 23 Ruth 1: 1-19 2 Timothy 2: 3-15 Luke 17: 11-19 Sunday, October 20 Proper 24 Genesis 32: 3-8, 22-30 2 Timothy 3: 14-4: 5 Luke 18: 1-8 Sunday, October 27 Proper 25 Jeremiah 14: 1-10 2 Timothy 4: 6-8, 16-18 Luke 18: 9-14

The Church of Saint David of Wales

623 Ector Street, Denton Texas 76201 (940) 387-2622 Sunday Schedule 8:00 a.m. Holy Eucharist Rite I 9:15 a.m. Christian Education & Childrens Chapel 10:30 a.m. Holy Eucharist Rite II 5:00 p.m. Holy Eucharist Rite II, Folk Mass A nursery is provided for children up to age 5. Please see an usher for directions. Wednesday Schedule 6:00 p.m. Evening Prayer & Healing Mass Rite II (We will return to our time of 6:30 in November) Thursday Schedule 9:30 a.m. Morning Prayer & Holy Eucharist Rite I 2:30 p.m. Adult Bible Study

Staff
The Reverend Canon H. W. Herrmann, SSC Rector Home phone: (940) 566-5251 fatherherrmann@stdavidsdenton.org The Reverend Father Clint Wilson Curate fatherwilson@stdavidsdenton.org The Reverend Father Jeff Kraemer Assisting Priest Email: cjeffkraemer@gmail.com The Reverend Deacon Carol Hobson Email: hobson2040@hotmail.com Dr. Pamela Youngblood Organist and Choir Director Joyce Jones-Duffey Coordinator, Childrens Christian Education June Adams Assistant, Childrens Christian Education Roger and Wendy Bussell Sextons Cathy Harazda Nursery Supervisor Barbara Searcy and Catlyn Carr Nursery Holly Robinson Secretary to the Rector and Bookkeeper

October Saint Days

October 4 Saint Francis of Assisi October 15 Saint Teresa of Avila October 18 Saint Luke October 23 Saint James of Jerusalem
October 28

Saint Simon, Saint Jude and the Apostles