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CONTENTS
Tim Gormley........................................................................................................8 Darryl Thomas.................................................................................................13 Antoaneta Martinova.....................................................................................14 Randy Krafft......................................................................................................16 Cameron Cope................................................................................................21 Bella Bargilly......................................................................................................24 Marlen Vargas Del Razo...............................................................................29 Rebecca Dalmas..............................................................................................30 Uzoma Amajor.................................................................................................32 Avery Williams.................................................................................................35 Barbara Seme..................................................................................................36 Gian Robberts..................................................................................................38 Mats Bjornsti.....................................................................................................42 Lindsay Craver..................................................................................................43 Adrian Blackburn.............................................................................................47 Manuela Jungman..........................................................................................50 Joe Kou...............................................................................................................51 Kim Amourette.................................................................................................54 Cathy Krafft.......................................................................................................58 Kristina Salas.....................................................................................................60 Matti Freeman..................................................................................................68 Marlen Vargas Del Razo................................................................................69 Sandy Jones MacGillivray...............................................................................74 William Cuff.......................................................................................................77 Ann Van den Broeck.........................................................................................80 Andrew Gable...................................................................................................82 Kim Kline............................................................................................................83 Bla Cegnar.......................................................................................................90 Johnathan Motz...............................................................................................93 Andrea Rossouw..............................................................................................94

Maya Harel........................................................................................................96 Garbrielle Goodrow .................................................................................100 Jeanne Kenney................................................................................................101 Joao Jesus......................................................................................................104 Gabriel Zamora Moreno..............................................................................108 Marek Sniager.................................................................................................109 Andrea Teale ..............................................................................................112 Mats Bjornsti...................................................................................................115 Yogan Barrientos...........................................................................................117 Manuela Jungmann .....................................................................................119 Leon Perry........................................................................................................123 Anna Brix Thomsen.......................................................................................127 Cathy Krafft.....................................................................................................131 Christophe De Groote.................................................................................135 Carolyne Moige Schnidrig (Sunshine Carol)...........................................136 Sylvia van Overschot-Gerssen..................................................................140 Martijn de Graaf..............................................................................................143 Niklas Nydahl.................................................................................................145 June Roca........................................................................................................147 Viktor Persson................................................................................................148 Larys Kaziukonis............................................................................................151 Mike Lammers...............................................................................................154 Deedra Chavez.............................................................................................158 Valentin Rozman...........................................................................................159 Eleonora Gozzini..........................................................................................161 Arvydas Platakis............................................................................................166 June Roca........................................................................................................168 Leila Zamora Moreno.................................................................................171 Michelle Mulcrone........................................................................................174 Fidelis Spies....................................................................................................176

Joseph Ndungu.............................................................................................179 David Duncan................................................................................................180 Ia Br Ingadttir...........................................................................................185 Kim Amourette...............................................................................................193 Mrton Szab................................................................................................194 Gabriel Zamora Moreno..............................................................................196 Marley Dawkins..............................................................................................198 Fred Cheung ..........................................................................................201 Kelly Posey.......................................................................................................207 Scott Cook.......................................................................................................208 Andreas Whittmann.....................................................................................211 Anna Brix Thomsen .................................................................................215 Hilda Rac.........................................................................................................216 Anton Fernando............................................................................................220 Luka Novak.....................................................................................................224 Joana Ferreira.................................................................................................225 Nelson Ford....................................................................................................231 Joseph Ndungu.............................................................................................233 Rozelle de Lange...........................................................................................234 Larry Manuela................................................................................................242 About Desteni.......................................................................................................

TIM GORMLEY
http://equifyyourmoney.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni.html

26 January 2012 Realize first that all are able to hear the Desteni message. It is already resonating within you - it just has not reached your consciousness yet. It will, if you become self-honest within yourself and allow it to emerge. For now it just waits, biding time, trapped somewhat until you decide that you are ready. It has to come from you. It isnt possible to come from anywhere else - after all you are the creator of your own experience. All that you see already exists within you as the mind, and for you to hear the Desteni message, you have to accept that the message was always there, and it is just now that you are listening. Self-honesty is the key to hearing it though. If you are able to look at yourself (through the reflection of yourself in all that you see) in the utmost honesty, you will undoubtedly be able to hear the message. People that hear this message are not special in any way. They have decided to stop the nonsense and start living as the expression of themselves. They hear because it is in their best interest to hear, because the message works on the principles of what is best for all. It is not about believing in the message either. It is living the expression of the message that actually matters. Hearing it is one thing, but living it takes on the ultimate in self-honesty. So are you ready and what will it take for you to become ready. It will take a really selfhonest in-depth look at yourself and your world, and asking the questions of yourselves. Through searching for the answers you will find that you will not be able to deny yourself the self-honesty that you actually seek along with the Desteni message. I was able to hear the message, because I allowed myself to hear it through self-honesty and really looking for it. Not realizing of course that it was always here. It took a while to find it, before I could actually hear it. There was about 3 or 4 years of manifested consequences from self-dishonest allowances and acceptances before I would let myself hear it. But throughout that time there was a steady unstoppable gravitation towards it. Everything leading up to the realization of separation and detachment from oneness and equality seemed to come more and more into focus as the process went on. Its hard to
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nail down an exact moment that changed and directed me to this message, because each event seems almost just as directing as the next. As a young child, I would always question existence and why would we do the things we did. I would always ask my dad why grownups did the things they did like saying Hows it Going when they greeted each other. Where were they going to? It seemed that there were a lot of things in the world that didnt make sense to me and I would often find myself very confused. When I was about 14 or 15, there seemed to be a moment of clarity, realizing that was no such way to definitively define something as good or bad. How could there be when there could be so many different perspectives on a particular situation. Everybody sees the world differently. When I was 20 years old I dated a girl whose dad read a lot about Buddhism, and after reading one of his books, I was positive that these guys were on to something. They seemed to go deeper and beyond the cartoony circus show I perceived of Christianity and other religions. It seemed to fall in line more with what I thought spirituality should be like. When I looked around, there seemed to be a lot of people that knew what life and spirituality was all about, but they were all just opinions, beliefs and perceptions, un-backed by any substantial proof. I then gave up for awhile and focused on myself with a self set goal of trying to make my life as good as possible. That meant having money, getting the girl and being well liked. All the stuff I saw on T.V. that looked like it caused pleasure and it seemed to for awhile as I did my best to align my lifestyle on to pre-conceived ideas that in my mind would be my ticket to eternal happiness and bliss. But it turned out to be far from that. Through smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol, I learned to suppress all that was wrong with the way I had created myself attempting to shut out the truth of what was really going on. Eventually it all boiled over, just as planned and I then spent the next 3 or 4 years living with the consequences trying to find self-honesty. As a musician, I thought it a must that I become famous and be heard. As an Engineer, I thought it a must that I must progress my way through the corporate world and live out a rich and successful life. As a man, I thought it a must that I must find a lady to love and one that loves me back, so that all will see me as man. I had a vision to strive for. To be the best I can be from the starting point of dishonesty of who I actually was. I remember thinking once that Id like to be like Brad Pitt, because he had Angelina Jolie locked onto his arm as he strolled down the red carpet. How did he manage that? I must be like him. All of these desires were the result of complacency and believing that I had no self-worth. I believed that being the image and likeness of Brad Pitt would fulfill this emptiness I had accepted as myself. And if you ever have that sense of needing to be this, or having that, realize that you are separating yourself from yourself and attempting to fulfill an unnecessary desire because of the way you have defined yourself. At this point I was not
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willing to hear the Desteni message, because I was in a state of denial about my allowances and acceptances. I figured that I could be anyone I wanted to be as long as I imagined it and live in fantasy land, disconnecting myself from reality. I was living in a state of self-delusion. Anyways, after 4 years of manifested consequences that resulted in a lot of adverse health effects and general malaise and depression from not understanding what was happening to me, I decided one day, that this is not me, and I do in fact remember me, who I am, and how I used to be. And I wouldnt stop until I realized me again. I started to eat healthy again, and focus on shifting my attitude and mindset. I dug deep into alternative health, and with the 2008 financial collapse I spent a lot of time soaking in as much information as I could of the inner workings of our world economic system. Through a friend, I discovered that there was a whole other underground movement dedicated to exposing conspiracy theories that wasnt reported in the mainstream media. This seemed to open up my mind on what existed in the world and what was/is actually possible. All of a sudden, through exploration of the internet and connecting with others building and building on each others ideas my whole world expanded. I consciously wrote down to myself in a book on New Years Day, 2011, that there is more to this world than what I saw through my own two eyes and I want to see the world for its true colors. Im still in the process of realizing this, but more and more opportunities started presenting themselves to explore this and then one evening in about 3 months after that writing, one experience really turned the corner for me pointing me in the direction of the Desteni message. After a league hockey game, I decided to smoke some marijuana with some guys on my team, which was something I now preferred not to do because it made me anxious and paranoid. As I sat in my truck, getting ready to go home, the anxiousness started to creep in, but I decided that through breathing and the power of the mind, I could stop these undesirable feelings I would get. As I sat there, listening to Blackaliciouss Release I decided in that instant, that I was no longer going to allow nervous anxiety in the experience of smoking this weed. As Blackalicious said Release in this song, I breathed, and I said Release to myself, attempting to release the anxiety within. Breathing away, I would not let the anxiousness have control over me, and in that moment, what felt like a raging river of rushing energy poured from my chest. I had never experienced anything like it. It lasted for about 5 or 10 seconds, and in that moment I couldnt do anything else, but just experience the feel of it. A great weight felt like it had just lifted off of my shoulder, and the anxiety was gone. I sat there perplexed, trying to figure out what just happened. About a minute after that, what
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felt like another electric burst of energy, travelled up my back and into my head. It felt like my brain lit up like a Christmas tree. I felt like I could see the shape of my own brain. The exact contours and shape of it. This was something that literally blew my mind, and had to be investigated further. Thanks to the invention of the internet and Google, the first thing I did was attempt to search out what exactly this was, using keywords such as energy rushing from chest or brain lighting up. The word Kundalini came up which was a word used by yoga masters describing an experience where invisible points in your body called chakras released energy. I decided I needed to follow this path to find myself and something beyond myself, and sure enough Youtube came through, but it was not what i expected. A thumbnail of a blonde girl (Sunette Spies and the Interdimensional Portal) showed up with the caption What are Chakras (*Really, check this video interview out if you want a blunt specific take on Chakras* and this video too for more insight as well). When I first clicked on it, I thought I was watching a 12 year old boy, and was amazed that this boy had this vocabulary and an unwavering stance on what seemed like such a complex and abstract subject. The description of the chakras was so specific and went beyond the actual experience of the chakras, describing the structural design and the reason for their existence. Nobody does that. Nobody asks why, and answers why. And why not? Because were so wrapped up by the experience that we dont question whats behind it. That video perspective led to more videos with different famous dead people coming through, such as Hitler and Jim Morrison (fascinating accounts), each one attacking a certain point with unwavering conviction of the design structure and why and how it was placed. The fact that someone that seemed fairly normal looking would compromise themselves in terms of social judgements to go out on a limb and put themselves out there on Youtube to describe seemingly every day subjects in such a specific complex abstract way, was beyond me to comprehend. It was all very simple everyday things that were being explored, but it seemed nobody ever asked these questions. We all just sort of accept things the way they are, because thats the way they are. We never ask why or how, and this little boy was answering every single question I wanted to know the answer to, but never had the thought to ask or answer myself. The answers were so abstract and contained terminology I had never heard before. It resonated with me as it seemed to point out the truths of ourselves in the most brutally honest fashion possible. No sugar coating at all. Video after video I combed through, discovering new perspectives on just about everything I wanted a different perspective of, and the material did not seem to stop. It just kept coming. The dedication and consistency of daily updated videos started to show me that whoever was making these videos, was not just in it for some quick money
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making scheme like most people were. This was their life and livelihood. They werent doing it for riches or fame. It wasnt flashy, or high priced production, but the sheer volume and undeniable truth of the words coming from one source was paving a way and giving me the green light to explore further. Once listening to enough videos, I started to allow myself to explore the idea of looking at the world in a bit different light and asking questions again on why the world was the way it was just as i did when I was younger. And out of that came realizations and self-honesty in myself. Even if the interdimensional portal was a hoax, it was impossible to deny the truths in the words that were being spoken. At some point in time, I realized in myself that there was something not right in the way I was living, and I was now going to take the next step and enrol in the Desteni I Process. I needed to see the scam. I needed to disprove Destenis message to prove to myself that I was more than they were. I did that to all religions and cults. I would look for the inconsistencys to create the seed of doubt, so that I could think of myself as better than they are. But I couldnt find it. If I actually looked self-honestly at myself and the world, taking into consideration of what was being described in the video interviews, it was impossible to deny the message of Desteni. And that is how I was able to hear the message of Desteni => through complete self-honesty and cross-referencing the information given with what I saw in my world. And now as I look back, a year later, I realize the transformation in myself and see that it is possible, if we take responsibility, for us all to move together to create a world that we would actually want to live in. A place with no space for ignorance and turning a blind eye. No fear, no judgements, no limitations, no traps. A place to express yourself in what is best for you and what is best for all. A place where all are able to hear the message of Desteni and live out its expression.

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DARRYL THOMAS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUNtALaX98Y

06 February 2012

In the summer of 2007, I came across the Desteni Material for the first time. A video commentary by Darryl Thomas. I finally learned to give up my ideas of enlightenment and specialness and learned to embrace the notion of what is best for all. Darryl Thomas is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/16

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ANTOANETA MARTINOVA
http://antoaneta36.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html 24 January 2012 It is as simple as having your ears open and be actually ready to accept that there is another way to life that is NOT the product of abuse, suffering and survival. The most important thing that clicked to me is that we create through our participation. I was able to see how participation in Religion, Sects, Wars, Capitalism, Communism, Spirituality, all the isms and so on is creating polarity of inferior and superior, a huge separation. I was able to see that this polarity isdeliberatelyin place so that few can have and many can suffer, including animals and plants. I was able to see that none of this actually makes sense in what life should be because Earth offers its resources to us for everyone to share and coexists. Life was given to everyone/thing equally, thus the rights for existing in the physical must be shared equally. I was able to see that it isridiculouslyidiotic to believe in life after death from the perspective that we return to a heaven in some other dimension and NOT realize that life is actually HERE in the physical, that Earth is our heaven/home and we aredestroyingthe very dimension that allows us to breathe and experience life in the physical. I saw that instead of worrying about someaccession, acceptance of GOD or salvation, we should be seriously be worried about what we do to ourselves, to ourexistenceNOW, to Earth, toeach otherand how we live with what has been offered for us HERE. When the idea about the Equal Money System was suggested Iimmediatelysaw that it is the best idea ever suggested simply because the starting point was that of what is best for all, rather than how can we fuck over the next guy. In that moment I realized that YES everything we create does revolve around money and we have allowed money to be OUR GOD. We have allowed to place value in an object/means of exchange over the value of a life, over the value of what thepsychicalhas to offer us....ALL of us. I looked at how money/gold has held the power and control over the centuries. I looked at the stupidity people have done til this day over money. We have agreed money to be our survival point, which is a huge mistake. So YES when Equal Money was suggested, there was no turning back=this is the answer to creating heaven on Earth. Another important point that was presented to me at Desteni that I was able to hear is Change begins with ourselves. It is to accept that we have fucked up and not just
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complain about it BUTactuallyDO something about it. I was able to open up to myself and look at myself, my life self honestly. Where, What, How, When and Why I participated in deception, what my starting point is in participating in anything for that matter. How to handle myself in future participation, how to make sure that I am stable, that I am clear about my starting point in participation within this world! What is important that supports the common good of all and what supports self interest. I was able to understand the principle of what Desteni stands for and work onmyselfto stand with that PRINCIPLE. One can name this principle many things: Place yourself in the shoes of another; Do onto another as you want done to yourself; Love thy neighbor; Oness and Equality.....and so on. The bottom line is that principle is valid in all ways which is my validation of what is real. Desteni is a group of people who see and realize the above mentioned points AND more. It is a group that sees behind the veil ofdeception and it is ready to offer asolutionto everyone. One just needs to have their ears open and be ready to face the truth! There is NO room for EGO. If you have the EGO you will be blocked to hearing anything on the first place. So for those who are ready, please join us in thistransformationalself process we as a group have taken into our hands. Be part of thesolution!

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RANDY KRAFFT
http://randykrafft4equality.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/2012-how-i-was-able-to-hear-the-desteni-message/

29 January 2012 At different points throughout my life, I had these unanswerable questions: What is my purpose in life? Why am I here? Is there a purpose to my being here? Who am I really? I always supposed that everyone else had the same questions and, due to the influences of family, education and religion, I had bought into the idea of a God that created me in his image and likeness and, hoped that, at some point, I would have this realization that would make sense of it all. When I was 11 years old, I had an experience where I just KNEW that God had intervened and saved my life, which gave me this sense that He had a purpose for me. Before crossing what was usually a busy street, one night, I had looked both ways didnt see any oncoming cars and took off running to get to the other side. I got to the middle of the street and, wham, stopped in my tracks, and this car went zooming by about a foot in front of me. I hadnt seen it come over the top of the hill just a little ways from where I was crossing and it was going really fast. I had never been so scared before, realizing that just one more step and I would have been killed. Shaken, I kept asking myself over and over: what made me stop? I hadnt seen the car. I didnt make a conscious decision to stop. Was it Instinct? Did I see it out of the corner of my eye and stop without thinking? I couldnt explain it. I decided that it must have been God that God had intervened so; He must have some purpose for my life. The experience didnt make me a religious person, though. Oh, I went to church, dutifully, every Sunday, was an altar boy and participated but, honestly, was more interested in looking around to see what girls were there. Other than the occasional Christmas or Easter services to placate family, I quit going to church shortly after moving out of my parents house, disillusioned with the rituals of Catholicism and organized religion. I never bought into all the bible stories especially all of the killing in the Old Testament and never understood how an all loving, all powerful and merciful God, could create a place like Hell, and banish his creations to everlasting pain and suffering. But, I still carried this idea in the back of my mind that there was some kind of divine being that had saved me for some purpose.
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The next 30 years of my life were busy devoted to raising kids trying to be a good parent and working / making a living. Our youngest was probably in middle school when we got access to the internet and, a whole new world opened up and I found myself with access to information, ideas, beliefs, opinions and perspectives outside of the traditional media. Then, 9/11 and my mother in-laws sudden death a couple of months after that, got me questioning everything about our world and about my own personal beliefs. I still wanted to believe in God and having a divine purpose for being here. I studied various religions, again, trying to see if any of them made sense. I read some of the Conversations with God books, along with Tolle, Chopra, and others. Most of the new age, light and love stuff seemed like non-sense. I mean, if love was the answer, surely it would have worked by now. I didnt become obsessed with conspiracy theories but, I gave them a lot of attention, as they certainly exposed the greed and corruption of our worlds financial and political systems. I was pretty much all over the place looking for answers Ramtha didnt have them, The Secret and the Law of Attraction didnt have them, Thoth didnt have them, nobody seemed to have any answers that rang true within me. I had been reading the channelings about the galactic federation, stuff about Indigo and Crystal children and, had run across David Icke and had been listening to his theories and watching some of his videos when, after watching one of his videos about his Reptilian theories on YouTube late one night, I noticed several videos in the suggestions column with this same young girl shown in the thumbnail, with titles that included Reptilians, Atlanteans, and Sirians, and clicked on one of them. That was the first time I watched a Desteni Productions video a little over 4 years ago. I went on to watch 6 or 7 more that night and, over the next few days, found the Desteni website and forum and, watched a lot more videos and started reading some of the material. That was it. I knew my search was over. After years of looking for answers that made sense, I had finally run across a group of people that actually had a common sense perspective toward the problems of this world and, were committed to the principle of equality for all, as one, as equals. And, after all that time looking for answers outside of myself, here, finally, was someone that pointed out that all of the answers Id been looking for, Id find within myself through facing my self in self-honesty, doing self-forgiveness for all Ive accepted and allowed to exist in this world, and then self-corrective application to actually change self, and become the directive principle in my life. This journey this process of self-honesty is a commitment to self a becoming of self a giving of self to self, through self-forgiveness. I was able to hear the Desteni Message not only because I was ready to hear it but, because it is real common sense. I was tired of all of the bullshit systems that could only offer faith, hope and love as their guiding principles, while offering no real solutions to the problems
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existent in todays world, abdicating their responsibility to Life to a make-believe being. Then, when Desteni proposed an Equal Money System as a solution to provide the means to guarantee that all can live a dignified life, I knew that I could have no greater purpose in life, than to dedicate myself to support its implementation as whats Best for All. We are the creators of our world and, from a very young age, all of us start building ourselves a box in our mind, where we define ourselves as who we are as our egos, through preprogrammed beliefs and behaviors and the accumulation of thoughts, feelings, emotions and opinions from our memories and experiences. The problem is that we truly believe that the box is real that thats who we really are. And, were afraid to step out of that box and free ourselves from our enslavement to our own thoughts and beliefs. We see ourselves as too small and insignificant to impact change in this world, while, on a daily basis, we bear witness to atrocities such as war, starvation, poverty and abuse existent in our world. Investigate Desteni, and the Equal Money System. It is possible for each of us to become the change we want to see in this world, and create a world in which our children and grandchildren can live in harmony with all life, as All, as One, as Equals. Join in for discussions about Equality and changing self on the Forum at Desteni.org and, research and discuss the Equal Money System at Equalmoney.org.

http://randykrafft4equality.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/2012-keeping-it-up/

I just paused for a moment before beginning to type, and it occurred to me that someone might click on this title thinking this is gonna be about something totally different than my purpose. Well, if anyone does, stick around I addressed how I was able to hear the Desteni message. This is why Ive continued to listen, support, and participate with Desteni for over 4 years why Im keeping it up. It didnt take long for me to embrace the message of Oneness and Equality which is the Desteni message. This certainly wasnt the first time Id heard, or read, these words but, for the very first time, here was group of people committed and determined to Live these words and bring about a change in this world that will actually bring these words to Life where All Life will live as All, as One, as Equals. The message is for each of us to realize, for ourselves, who we really are that the being inside each of us that is the life force of our human physical bodies is NOT the ego weve created and defined ourselves as. And
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Desteni offers the tools, support and assistance absolutely free to anyone and everyone who is willing to take responsibility for their self, and make a commitment to no-one, other than their self, in discovering their true inner self through facing self in self-honesty. The core of the Desteni message, the message of Oneness and Equality, is to actually live by the Principal of Equality within the words Jesus gave us: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you and, Love your neighbor as yourself. No, it wasnt the first time Id heard these words either. Growing up as a Catholic, going to Catholic church and schools, Id heard these phrases innumerable times. Unfortunately, this message was just glossed over. No one else EVER saw these seemingly simple phrases as THE solution that could end All of the inequities and atrocities existent in this world of ours, until Desteni. Where, when All can actually LIVE the words of these phrases, every being on the planet can live a life of dignity, equal and one with all life. We can actually create Heaven on Earth, one day, where future generations wont be subjected to the atrocities existent today, for which we are All responsible. Each of us must take responsibility for everything weve accepted and allowed to exist in this creation of ours. Yes, all of it. Every 5 seconds, when a child under the age of 5 dies of a hunger related cause, in a world of 7 billion that generates enough food to feed 12 billion, each and every one of us is responsible for that death. Every time a soldier or a civilian dies in a war, each of us is responsible. We are responsible because we Accept it. We Accept it because: its always been that way. We accept and allow it because: thats just the way it is. And we at Desteni say: Thats BULLSHIT. Thats right, BULLSHIT. It doesnt have to be this way. Desteni has proposed an Equal Money System (EMS) that, when implemented, will guarantee that all can live a dignified life. Based on those words of Jesus, the Principle of Equality, the EMS is the only viable solution for humanity to survive on this planet. I urge anyone and everyone who hasnt heard of it, or investigated it, to do so. Initial investigation requires one to be open to new ideas, as the EMS conforms to only one standard/principle and that is: Whats Best for All. Self-interest and greed cannot, and will not, exist within the EMS. Every decision made will be based solely on this principle. In taking responsibility for self, through facing self in self-honesty, were each alone in our process of self-discovery. We are All One, though, and the entire Desteni group stands in support of every individual, as everyone in the group is in different stages of this process. And the group continues to grow, as more and more people are seeing that the Principle of Equality is simply Common Sense. Many of us are participating in courses offered through Desteni I Process, which assist us to identify how weve programmed our minds in defining
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ourselves, and peel away the layers of that programming in this journey of self-discovery. The coolest thing about it is, theres no one participating with Desteni that puts self-interest above the group that group being humanity in creating a world thats Best for All. Thats why Ill continue to listen and hear the Desteni message. Thats why Ill continue to support and participate. Thats why Im Keeping it Up. Join us for discussions about Equality and changing self on the Forum at Desteni.org and, research and discuss the Equal Money System at Equalmoney.org.

Randy Krafft is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/137

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CAMERON COPE
http://cameronsprocess.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

21 January 2012 When I came across my first Desteni video in 2008 I had already been on a search for 3 years. The search started after I broke up with my girlfriend of 3 years and dropped out of college. I had for sometime before then been wondering what the purpose of life was and I had also started to use alcohol and other drugs quite extensively. Its hard for me to pinpoint the exact moment that began to question my purpose in life, but I remember during that time, I had started to think about what happens when I die and then only thing I could reasonably believe is that I would simply cease to exist. After thinking this, I became first scared, while I tried to imagine what it would be like the moment I no longer existed and I simply couldnt accept it (see The Design of Fearing your own Fear). I then became very depressed as I saw no way around the fact. When I was alone I felt lonely. When I was with others I felt crowded. Everything seemed surreal and I continually got into extensive arguments with my then girlfriend which usually ended with me calling her stupid and her crying. I had stopped attending class, and daily I experienced anxiety towards not keeping up with my school work and towards not being able to pay my rent or bills. I had basically begun to check out of reality - to completely neglect my responsibilities and to turn completely inwards to search for something that would make me feel happy. You could say that I was beginning my pursuit of happiness which was my constitutional right as an American - LOL (see: Freedom of Choice and Equal Money for further perspective). So I began reading like never before. I probably read over 100 books in a 1 year period. I read everything from religious texts (Vedanta, Buddhism, Christianity) to science (studies on the nature of consciousness, quantum mechanics, etc) to everything in between (astral projection, meditation, philosophy, the occult, you name it). Everything that I could get a little obsessed about that seemed to make reality or at least some aspect of seem better than what I was experiencing would suffice as far as I was concerned. At that time I also began to record music on a daily basis. I created a myth for myself that I was an artist who had discovered my inner genius and that I was destined to express myself and everyone would praise me. I believed that I would also become some kind of savior who would show
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fix the problems of this world and most importantly I would learn how to end suffering. And I began this search believing that the answer lay somewhere out there in some book or some teacher whom I could follow and that would ultimately end with me finding some answer to why I never felt happy and why never felt like I fit in. This searching led me to investigate things that I would have laughed at a year before. I read about Aleister Crowley and magick. I read about Ken Wilber and his Integral Theory. I read about Timothy Leary, Terrence McKenna, and Robert Anton Wilson and their attempts to find some truth through the use of psychedelic drugs. I read about channeling and tried to find the wisdom apparently communicated from beings from another Dimension. But each time I got into something I found that there was something missing. I couldnt put my finger on it, nor did I care to, but I would move onto something else that sparked my curiosity. See, I though I was searching for an answer, but I was really just moving from one form of excitement to another. As soon as one would fade I would convince myself that the answer did not lie there and I would search for another answer. It wasnt until I got to the point where nothing I tried, not music, not reading, not drugs, nothing could provide any excitement for me any more. And I was simply left with the original dread that I felt in the beginning of my search. Then one day I while searching for videos about the Annunaki, I saw a video from Desteni giving perspective on aliens. The message was not quite what I was looking for and yet it was in fact the answer to my search. I had searched and found that nothing would make me happy. And Desteni was simply explaining why this was the case. I had seen for myself, through first-hand experience, the consequence of only focusing on myself, only caring about myself and how I feel, of acting from the starting point of simply trying to make myself feel better. Desteni was Here showing me that not only did this not make sense, but that it was this very starting point that was in fact creating and manifesting the suffering in this world (see: Culture and Religion vs Self-Responsibility and ). Not only the mental anguish that I was going through but even starvation, murder, war, and all the suffering that I as an American only ever read about or heard about on the news (see: Starvation is not about Food.) From that first video I started to see how the ideas and beliefs that I had accepted about myself were not real and yet how by believing in them and following them as if they were, I had created a fantasy world inside my head where I was completely disregarding the physical reality that I actually live in.
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Getting to a point of utter despair within myself as a consequence of ignoring reality is what made it easy for me to hear the Desteni Message. For me, I had to completely screw up my world and alienate everyone I had cared about - not as a result of hearing Desteni but as a result of not realizing the obviousness of what Desteni are presenting. Not seeing that I am in fact responsible for not only my life but for everything in fact. That by accepting my own happiness as the purpose of life and thereby accepting that everyone else has the same right that I was in fact condemning myself and everyone else to a world where no one cares about each other and to a world where everyone is competing and abusing each other - all in the name of happiness and freedom (see: Game Theory). I dont know what it will take for the rest of the world to hear Desteni. It would be cool if the whole world didnt have to collapse before enough people are willing to listen to make a change in this world, but that is up to you. see our Destonians Wiki on with subjects like Equal Money and Equality for All also visitequalmoney.org to find out more about the Equal Money System visit Desteni to research guidelines for Equality and to know and learn more about how the system we live in works

Cameron Cope is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/61

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BELLA BARGILLY
http://bellalive.multiply.com/journal/item/70/Desteni_Equality_Oneness_Why_I_Could_Hear_the_Message

05 February 2012 What made an immediate and strong impression on me the moment I came across Desteni was that each and every point taken on, presented, given perspective on: would always be brought to a concluding point showing the necessity and inevitability of SELFRESPONSIBILITY. That is the core message of Desteni: Stop waiting, stop hoping, and take life in your hands by standing-up for self, for life. Stand up and Stop the enslavement within and without. Obviously, to do that, we first require to understand How we are enslaved, How we are in fact keeping ourselves and each-other enslaved in patterns of consciousness that perpetuate the world as we know it and keep history repeating; never actually evolving but only mutating, while the power-structures and inequality within and of the world system are being maintained. When I first came across Desteni it was through Youtube and the forums. On Youtube I found countless interviews elaborating on various different points of our existence and showing how everything exists within and as polarity designs. I was immediately able to see this design and how it in fact exists within everything that we do, participate in or know about in this world. I suppose that the intense personal relations and interactions I experienced and witnessed throughout my childhood and young years had schooled my attention on and my seeing of the manipulation patterns and tactics that people tend to engage in, in order to get what they want or to present themselves the way they think will allow them to form their reality to their own interest. I had not however considered that all of existence, including myself, exist within and as such patterns of self-interest, and that in fact all the systems of our world are set to (re-)create exactly this point of separation from life as common interest. The systems of our world are set to create and perpetuate enslavement through the mental and emotional manipulation of the individual and at the same time through binding the individual to societal structures of inequality, thus creating also dependency and bipolar behaviors and experiences, as there always seems to be something to love and something to hate, something to fear and something to desire, something to fight for and something to
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fight against. And while we engage in these patterns the world system presents us with as options in life, we never actually stand in complete oneness and equality with all that exists so that we may be able to realize and take absolute self-responsibility for this existence that is ourselves. This is the main point in my process of self-realization that literally woke me up and assisted me in realizing that as long as I project blame and responsibility onto others or anything outside of myself for that matter, I am in fact abdicating my power, abdicating my responseability, my ability in other words to actually make a difference and bring forth actual change the change I want to see in the world. Therefore, it was very quickly clear to me not only that self-responsibility is the key, but also why. I was able to see that who we are and how we exist creates our relationships, and our relationships on the smaller scale create, form and reflect the relationships of our world in the bigger scale. What I accept and allow within myself and my relationships determines and gives permission for the same points to exist in the world as a whole. Therefore it is through changing/directing self as who I am in every moment, realizing and taking responsibility for what I accept and allow through my participation, my presence, my actions or inaction, that I am able to start having an impact on my personal relationships in my reality, my world; thus slowly but surely start creating relationships in self-honesty, selfresponsibility, mutual respect and intimate and direct communication, making life something that is of life-support universally, something that is dignified and worth creating, worth living. The second platform of interaction I had with Desteni from the beginning was the online forums. What I found on the forums was people sharing themselves and their processes, and challenging themselves and each-other challenging beliefs and personalities and mind sets as revealed through the writings we all shared. This is and has been an organic process of cross-referencing, debunking and discussing of all possible points of our existence, experience and knowledge of the world, our reality, in the quest for the actual truth behind the veils of the minds programming and beyond the belief-systems we are indoctrinated with through the world systems. Understanding and removing mind-control from the inside-out through self-honesty and practical common sense, seeing things for what they are in the context of the whole of existence from a perspective of cause and effect: allows us to see the manifested consequence of our existence and take self-responsibility. Within this, we are able to start investigating the cause and effect of our own individual
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existence: What does my existence contribute to within and of this world? What do my acceptances and allowances give permission for to exist in the bigger picture? What am I supporting in the world when I am driven by fears and desires? What creates my fears and desires? What is the effect of my cause? What has been my role in my relationships with my reality thus far, and what definitions have I accepted within this to merely justify the roles and positions I have taken? Why have I been for instance the victim, or the intellectual, or the seeker, or the bully or the bullied? And how did I then create beliefs and interpretations of reality in self-righteousness and abdication of responsibility? How are such roles used and abused within the world system to maintain consumerism, consumption and the con of consciousness, within which all and every one is enslaved? What role models are we presented with by the media and why? What drives our existence from the inside-out and how are such driving forces created? And why? At Desteni we see SELF in the context of the entirety of existence. How can we create a world without gods and fake values a world with no masters and no slaves? How can we bring forth an existence of self-willed equals, where power is no longer something to compete for, fight for, kill and die for. How can we self-realize power as life, and give it to ourselves and everyone else equally. Understanding ourselves as creators of ourselves and collectively of this world we begin to understand creation from the perspective of interconnectedness and interdependence as life. No one is free until all life is free! This point is a further crucial point at Desteni a point that opened my eyes for the world and assisted me in understanding self-responsibility and practical equality and oneness. Because this world system, this manifested existence that is our reality, is one of enslavement, we all tend to seek freedom, or ways to escape the prison of the system. And the only way we know how to do this, is through denial, suppression, separation, whereby we tend to disregard everything and everyone else in the quest for personal freedom. What if, however, we look at self-freedom not from a perspective of self-interest, but instead from the perspective of life as all as one as equal. What if we start realizing self-freedom from the inside-out, by debunking and diffusing the mental and emotional mind-control we have been subjected to and have accepted as who we are, and consequently start freeing our personal relationships and interactions from the consciousness patterns of control and
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manipulation; from the constant competition and power-games to create freedom of life, for life, for all. Because how can anyone be really free within an existence of enslavement where one constantly has to watch ones back, an existence where no trust, no support, no actual freedom of expression and expansion exists? Within realizing self-freedom in the context of life, as life, we are able to embrace our interdependence within and as this reality we all share, and realize that our interdependence is rooted in and emerges from our INTERCONNECTEDNESS as life. Therefore, interdependence in the context of life does not mean dependency as in the currently existent relationships of master-slave, strong-weak, superior-inferior, powerfulpowerless. Such bipolar relation-patterns exist only in systems of inequality where power is defined in separation of life and justified through fear and concepts of scarcity. Such polarity constructs as weve accepted them to exist within and as ourselves, within and as this existence, is exactly what creates dependency. And the outflows of such dependency are seen in war, conflict, addictions, obsessions. No Interdependence as life actually implies equality and oneness and the acknowledgement of our interconnectedness as equal parts of LIFE. Freedom must be Freedom for All Life! Within this, life can become One again: whole, integral, free. This oneness and equality, this freedom as life the freedom to live, express and expand in full awareness and regard of all that is here as life this must begin with/within each One individually: within how one lives and participates in every moment and how one relates and interacts in the context of ones relationships. This brings us back to the point of SELF-RESPONSIBILITY which we can see entails selfhonesty, self-will, self-directive which seems to be the key in our process of self-realization as life. And that is why I could hear the Desteni message. I was always wanting to be part of something that has actual purpose in life, actual meaning for life, something that really MATTERS. My journeys of self-realization before Desteni had been rooted in separation, as I was still blaming the system, the world, the others. I had created many beliefs for myself in an attempt to explain why I was who I was and why I existed the way I did, trying to justify my experience of myself because the world is the world as we know it not realizing that within this I was accepting the world as we know it, not seeing that I was also playing a role in maintaining the structures of separation and enslavement in inequality. I had not considered what self-responsibility actually implies, until I came across Desteni. Walking with a group that stands for life and common sense, while at the same time applying self-support tools to create myself as a self-willed individual that stands no matter what: that
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is the value I see in the Desteni group; as a movement that is here to unite life and walk practical ways of self-empowerment while at the same time realizing that we as humanity must work together to create a new world where LIFE is the value. Oneness and equality as life is the principle we as humanity require to practically establish through new systems of life-support that will ensure freedom and dignity for all. We are walking the transformation of our Oneness from a oneness of inequality and separation to a oneness of equality and unity as life. This transformation starts with and within self; it starts at the bottom, at the core, and requires to be moved toward and established within all layers of our reality, until all points of our world are equal in power, opportunities, participation, and choices in life. I could hear the Desteni message because life as our existence in this world as we know it made no sense, I could see no meaning and could find no purpose that is worth pursuing. With Desteni, I saw and understood the meaning of us being here as humanity I saw and understood what it is we are facing and what it is we are challenged with. In the reflection of our world, we see ourselves. In every moment of our existence we are faced with ourselves. Who will we be? What will we make of life? What will we accept and allow? Will we continue giving permission for this atrocity we call life to exist the way we do? Desteni is a wake-up call, and everyone that hears the call of life within themselves and all around us, has no choice but to stand-up and find ways to bring-forth change in a way that is best for all in a way that will free life from the claws of this consciousness system once and for all. This is a process not only of self-realization, but in fact of self-creation. Which again brings us back to the point of SELF-RESPONSIBILITY. So if you can hear what Im saying, investigate the message of Desteni and join us in this movement of DIGNIFYING LIFE. Bella Bargilly is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/68

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MARLEN VARGAS DEL RAZO

Part 1 : http://youtu.be/axk0z4vCPj0 Part 2 : http://youtu.be/KYoeZNNhcVs

Part 1 : http://youtu.be/axk0z4vCPj0

22 January 2012

Part 2 : http://youtu.be/KYoeZNNhcVs

Marlen Vargas Del Razo is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/44

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REBECCA DALMAS
http://rebeccakd.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/2012-what-made-me-hear-the-desteni-message/

22 January 2012 2012 What made me hear the desteni message. I realize that there was something that was not right about this world, about this life. I had had many images appear in my mind, and I started to question them as I became an adult. Finally, one day I actually asked my self why I had images pop up in my mind, and how come I could not generate them at will. I also had realized that they never amounted to anything, and some of them I did not even understand until they came to pass. One time I walked into an apartment and there was this floating head in the corner of the room, with rainbow colored rings around it. It looked at me and I looked at it, I remember it appeared to me to register surprise that it could be seen. I was just as surprised. One of my first thoughts was that this head was of a man, a really really really angry man. So, what I thought was, wow, this lost thing that was really really really angry was a man at one time, how curious that demonic entities were just really angry men. I was also not afraid of this angry demon-like man. I had never been in this apartment before, so when I left with my companion I asked her if there was something strange about that apartment and I did not tell her what I had seen. She said that , yes there was. When the occupant came home everything had been moved around to a different place. This experience and others began to accumulate and I started to try and find answers in many books. One was a description of a bubble around things I had seen. It took me twenty years to find one description of a bubble being around something. So, here suddenly was desteni talking about bubbles. I think at first I could not believe it because it had been so hard to find. The other information desteni talked about was how the present systems worked on this earth. I had looked into the health industry and the agricultural industry and found that there were ways and means of taking care of the health of this earth and it inhabitants that were not destructive to this earth and yet they were not being followed. If something did not make a profit then it was irrelevant, even if it was healthier for this planet. This did not make any
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sense. Why choose something that was not good for the planet? That profit was before pollution does not make any sense. That human health practices are invasive and non curative, and enslaved a person to pills for the rest of their life made no sense. It obviously was profit before health. And this is unacceptable. This is a clear indicator that something is not right about this world. In 2000, I found my husband hanging in an attic. The first thing I remember thinking when I found him was a question. The question was, why this, why does this choice exist? For me, this and an event that happened a few days before this, really was the beginning of a clear sense that there was really something wrong with this world. I didnt have anyone to talk to about this, so one day I asked the internet for an answer to what the hell was going on with the things I experienced and desteni was the ONLY one that answered. I had read a lot of spiritual books, and they never seemed to give a complete answer, just some intriguing details. I had become so lost in what was what, yet sensed that something more was there than what appeared to be real. I also had wanted to know the different inner parts parts of my self. All the labels and ideas of the id and the inner self and the intuitive self etc. seemed so unclear and everyone seemed to have a different explanation. I had thought, how the hell am I supposed to figure this out? So , when desteni answered my I did not know here else to go question that I sent into the internet world ( I had not yet become someone that watched Youtube videos and utilized the internet for information, I was a book person, I read periodicals and went to the library! ) I started watching their videos and reading the material on the web site and asking questions. I think I was in a state of shock for a long time. It is like looking and looking and looking for something that made some sense as to why this world made no sense and finding it after a long endless search.

Rebecca Dalmas is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/161

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UZOMA AMAJOR
http://uzomaamajor.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/how-i-was-able-to-hear-the-desteni-message/

31 January 2012 Prior to encountering the desteni material, I had been investigating different theories to why the world is the way it and my role in it all. I was heavily influenced by Christianity growing up. And though religion was not forced upon me, I allowed myself to trust and believe in it. I celebrated traditional holidays such as Christmas, Easter, and thanksgiving. These holidays were fun, and I believed that god could do anything at the snap of a finger. I asked why he could not snap his finger and established world peace, but rationalized that it was for some good reason that he did not. I was heavily into my Christian faith on and off through the years. In my mid 20 I started questioning and exploring more. Id pray and ask if I am in the correct religion. This was confusing to me because I realized that if I were in the wrong religion, Id not be getting into heaven. So which one was right? I started moving into the new age self help book phase. In particular books like the power of now stood out to me and I tried to practice this. I even bought the audio and would attempt to be in the now. Though there was something not sound in this approach for some reason. There were so many self help books, think and grow rich, miracles of mind, how to win friends, a monk and a Ferrari, Deepak Chopra, power of intention. So then I read Rampa books which my mom had always wanted me to read, but I never got around to until later in my 20s. So there I was in my late 20s believing in the teachings of Rampa and that of ascension, advanced aliens visiting the earth tweaking with existence as gardeners. Astral traveling/projecting. I saw myself as utterly inferior to advanced life forms and still having a long way to go the ascension ladder. I recall biking and trying to practice the power of now. I remember talking on and on about ascension to my husband and how when we learn lessons we advance in next lives. I justified that some are in atrocious predicaments in this life while other are in lavish ones to learn lessons. I was living in fear, because I feared that advanced aliens were observing the earth and could perhaps want to do some experiments on me. I was so afraid of advanced information after reading the Hermit by
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Rampa. Also Rampa had spoke of a new world leader that would make himself know in 2008, and would lead the way to a golden age. In his book he mentioned how this world leader was already born and would in 2008 make themselves known. But something was not right within me as I spoke of ascension and Rampas perspective. And I had that same feeling with trying to practice the power of now. So I said let me explore Scientology a little more. I wanted to find out more about what Auditing was. And this was sometime in 2008. I went online and typed in something related to Dyanetics and auditing. So this was when I saw my first portal interview. I heard the words, and thought wow this is amazing what is being said. I did not at the time realize it was Ron Hubert speaking through. I thought it was just this girls Dyanetic perspective. So then I started investigating this person, and saw other videos. I was just in awe and amazed by what I was hearing. At some point I realized it was beings speaking through Sunette. I was instantly taken by surprise in watching my first portal interview that day, and started watching as many videos as possible. I wanted to watch them all. I read about the desteni site, and what I thought was omg this is the new world leader. The age is accurate, the year is accurate. I was in for a shock. As I watched videos, did reading, researched, and investigated. I watch and read as much as I could. Video after video. I could spend hours watching videos and reading material. Later I start participating on the forum. At the time I had a fake screen name. And a time came when I was asked to use my real name, I was overtaken by fears. Using your real name makes a world of difference. I would experience this later again when shaving my head and showing my pics/videos. Here were the answers, and information, but was I able to handle it all?. It was overwhelming, but with my prior insights I though I can handle all this. It wasnt what I expected. I was depressed, and I at a time thought there is nothing to live for at all. I was in a state of hopelessness. Everything was a lie, my existence and what I believed to be, was not. So then began my Desteni process.

Uzoma Amajor is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/100

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AVERY WILLIAMS
http://world-equality.blogspot.com/2012/02/2012-how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni.html

10 February 2012 2012 How I was able to hear the desteni message is because after working hard for 27 years at building my sales business and reaching the top 1 % in the country and making millions in business. I found two reacquiring problems all those years one no matter how much money i made there was never enough to reach financial freedom and to maintain the volume i had to neglect my children and wife the corporations loved the production and treated me grate as long as i was on top every month was about starting over to hit the next goal.I have had many challenges along the way including a son dieing while i was on a road trip my greatest fear realized. And the second is total finical collapse i recovered only to find my self there again . That is when i said enough is enough.I had been following Christianity for over 35 years then spirituality . I came to the decision this is not an effective way to be in the world i was clear there is a problem with our world system . I began to seek answers, which lead me to the Neo-Think society which made me open to the point in which i saw Sunnete on you tube then she captivated me it made commonsense like i have never herd before as i listen to the history of man through the portal . As i listen to the desteni message i saw the obvious common sense of it all, the real Truth is here we are the cause of all the problems on earth and only we can fix it by being selfhonest . Avery Williams is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/98

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BARBARA SEME
http://shsbarbi.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

31 January 2012 When I first heard of Desteni I was actually hateful towards the group. I didnt even want to read and hear about their message and most certainly I didnt want to participate in it. But Bla, who was my boyfriend back then, did participate. I was feeling sad, confused and even cheated, because he started saying that he wants to be equal to all the people and that he wants to break the bond of specialness that we created within our relationship. At the time this was unacceptable for me, because it wasnt even close to the idea of being with someone, having a relationship with a man, that I created within my mind. Therefore I gave him a choice, either he stop participating in Desteni or Ill leave him. He decided for Desteni. That night I couldnt sleep, it felt like my world has collapsed. Then he decided to come to me and to talk through this. We have both calm down and made an agreement, he decided to stop bugging me all the time with Desteni and I decided to look up the Desteni message and to stop judging it, especially because I had no idea about it. I started to watch Desteni videos and it seemed so abstract to me, but it made sense what they were saying and this is why I was still listening. The most fascinating was the exposure of common sense, especially regarding our daily life. So I started to observe things around me and myself and I started seeing the bullshit I was living and still desiring to live. The more common sense I saw in more things and situations, the more clearly I understood the Desteni message. But I was still listening to it, because Bla was listening to it, I was participating, because he was participating and I was ready to stop whenever he would stop or whenever he would go away. Then one day when I completely shaved my hair I started realising Hey what am I doing, Bla wont get anything if I do this because he is doing it and most definitely I wont get anything out of it this way!. Then I started applying self-honesty and I started to see the message even more clearly. I started to see this unnecessary bullshit that is going on in this world and I started to see that we have a power to stop it. I started to see the value of life, I started to see that life is everywhere and that we are constantly destroying it with all the limitations, definitions, judgements. And I started to see that I dont have to do this anymore to myself and to other beings.
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Everyone is able to hear the Desteni message. The only thing why someone wouldnt be able to hear it is because of his/her ego. I was able to hear the Desteni message because I stopped allowing my egoistic desires to control my life. Because I became aware of the seriousness of the situation within our world currently is. Because I dont want to just sit back and watch the bullshit and gossip about it with my friends, but I want to do something to stop it. Because I realised that we are just robots who blindly follow our mind system and not even realising it, which shows us even more how deeply controlled we are. Because I realised that by making our system supportive for all beings within the principle of life, we can set us free of the limitations within which we are existing now and become what we really are - life itself. Barbara Seme is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/129

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GIAN ROBBERTS
http://gianrobberts01.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

31 January 2012 How was I able to hear the Desteni message? Lets first look into my past a little bit. I am from South Africa, and I grew up as an Afrikaner in a Christian society. I sang Jesus songs and gospels and I prayed with the whole school every day in the mornings and evenings. I had a pretty stable life in terms of money that my parents had. My parents always gave me options to be a bit more free, like I did not have to go to church, and I could change my religion if I wanted to, and I could believe in aliens if I wanted to, and I could do what I wanted from that kind of perspective, whereas the rest of my cultural group would obviously always disagree with me and my parents because they only believed in god and Jesus as savior. So I kept all the stuff that would seem weird and out of place to myself, and I participated in all kinds of different stuff by myself. I had mentioned a few points in school to friends and they immediately labeled me as being weird, for example I would say that I believe there are aliens. As I grew up and learned more about spiritualism,the Christian religion, Buddhism, and all kinds of stuff like healing self with Reiki and crystals, working with clearing energy, card reading, chakras, and testing prayer and meditation, I found that nothing workedever. I got tired of it all within myself. I was actually about to give in, meaning, I was about to decide on one point such as Christianity and just stick to it, because It is what my culture subscribes to you if you do not want to be abused and if you want to have a girlfriend and get sex someday. So this became one of my primary options. As I have tested for myself during these few years in my life with all these different things, I came to a really simple answer for myself about it all: it does not work. So I went on with my life as usual, seeing all the suffering in the world and seeing all the daily shit happening, going to school and studying and reading, plus partying, playing around and
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drinking, and also playing PC games and PS2 games I would just do this same routine all the time. And then as I got older and continued with school, I found a really interesting point within myself: I have to decide what I want to become and do as a job for the rest of my life pretty soon. This point brought up a lot of stuff for me as I looked at all the careers there are in this world, and I realized I do not want to do any of them. And looking at the careers that there is and my limited choices, I could see how fucked up our world is because of the type of careers that exist, and that I am actually forced to have to do them until I die. At the same time that I faced this point and had to make decisions I went with my parents to an old friend of theirs. We used to visit this old friend every few years but I was young and could not really remember these visits clearly, but it was Bernard and his kids and other people usually. Visiting Bernard and them wasnt about what they were doing; to me it was all about hearing the latest news in whats happening in their lives, because going to Bernard was always about really completely different things than where I am from, where all is about Christians and god. It was about everything and how everything works and functions, and obviously the portal. Now back then I wasnt hearing Desteni and what was said to be able to apply it. I was simply listening out of my own curiosity. So as we visited Bernard and them, they talked about many things such as the Dimensions and the heavens, and about equal money, as money is the problem in this world. We also looked at individual people and their processes such as my own. At the visit we all discussed the exact point I was facing: what to do with my future in a world that is fucked up. Coincidence? I think not. So with everyone there, my parents, Bernard, the Portal, and I, we came to great points on how I can direct my life to become a success and to make the best of it. I decided to leave school and do homeschooling for my last two years in school, and in that time I also work, earned money, and study to become an electrician. I went back home after this and I started applying myself in this new direction. The reason I wanted to take the path of becoming an electrician was because it is a practical job and it is one of the most important ones, as electricity is that which we cannot live without currently
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and thus it will be a stable job, meaning there will always be work. So I finished my first year doing homeschooling and did not do any money earning work in this year. I basically became lazy and was unable to apply myself with discipline. I started my last year in homeschooling but the shit hit the fan: I got my work three months late as there were issues happening; the government wanted to shut down private schooling and keep all kids in public schools. So I quit and left my last year. I told my parents I would continue the next year. In the meantime I started working for money; I became a waiter and did this full-time. I paid rent to my parents and still lived with them. I realized with this happening in my life I was not going to make it in the money system and that I may need to consider just doing this forever. I started drinking and partying more and got myself a girlfriend. I was living the life as they say - I had a home, I had money, I had a car, I had a girlfriend, I had more than basic needs. Why should I then finish high school and study further? I completely forgot everything we discussed at our visit with Bernard and them - all the practical points and really relevant points. After a few months I just could not do what I was doing much longer. I knew I had to get out of the situation I am in. It might sound and seem fun, but being in it like that till you die, that cant be life, that cant be everything, and the reason we live. So one day I got an email from Leslie John, Bernards son. He told me that they were getting a farm and that I should come. I was excited - this is the change I was looking for in my life. I knew what I was going to, and I knew what Desteni is all about, such as oneness and equality and self-forgiveness, etc. I wanted to go to the farm and work there. My intention was not to do the process but only go for six months or so and then come back; as I was going to work there I was going to earn money for my work. So I arranged with my parents,and I got to go to the farm and work there. I told my mother I will come back in six months and then finish my high school the next year. So I am at the farm. I started working and I started participating, but something unexpectedly happened: as I was working on the farm and living with the group of people on the farm, I eventually ended up in some conversations, and obviously I met people from overseas.
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The people I met from overseas were really cool to talk with. It was different. They talked about stuff I never considered in my daily life, such as ending hunger and starvation, taking self-responsibility for yourself and why, and then the random conversations I ended up in with where Bernard would talk about certain points, and I would end up being amazed about how much sense what he had to say had. I got hooked on the conversations and not long afterwards - two or three weeks into them - I made a new decision: I want to stay and apply myself with Desteni, because the common sense that was being discussed was so clear and so real I simply could not deny it. I realized that my starting point for being at the farm was purely for money and self-interest. I wasnt there for the process or participation in the Desteni message, yet what was spoken and discussed and applied by the people there was something that I could not deny - it is happening - Desteni is here and Desteni makes sense. I mean, I was struggling with so many emotional things inside of myself, with so many thoughts and stuff for such a long time, and here I suddenly have tools to help me to take self-responsibility for my own shit: self-forgiveness and breathing, being self-honest with myself, using common sense and learning what that is. It was all tools that I could physically apply and practice. No waiting or praying or hoping for something to happen. And so hearing the Desteni message was really easy. I first had to let go of my ego; I really had a big one. I felt I was invincible and nothing could touch me. But there I was, on the farm, because I had nothing and got fucked by myself and by not having any self-discipline. That was a real ego burst; pop goes the bubble. So myself-honesty was that I am not as great as I think I am. I needed to ask for help, and Desteni was the real help - actual physical help. So I had to get my ego bubble burst, and only then was I able to hear the Desteni message.

Gian Robberts is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/58

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MATS BJORNSTI
Part 1 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=uclSZWxZuy0 Part 2 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=03EQgEuDVrk

Part 1 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=uclSZWxZuy0

18 January 2012

Part 2 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=03EQgEuDVrk

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LINDSAY CRAVER
http://lindsaycraver.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

05 February 2012 When I came across my first Desteni video I had already walked many, many paths in my life, and these paths that I walked I didnt just check out or dabble in, but actually became full-on, as that is the way in which I believed I was able to see if something was real, and to a certain extent, this was cool as with all the paths I walked, jumping from one to the next, all came with an end date as I would eventually realize they werent real, but were just shallow illusions with no tangible substance. However, this finally lead me to quite a disillusioned state of being, wherein I realized how trite and superficial everything I had participated in was; that no matter how many hours I sat on my ass in meditation, or how many fasts or cleanses I did, or how many mantras I recited, or how hard I tried to breathe through my pineal gland, or how hard I tried to be like Jesus, or Buddha, or Mother Theresa, or St. Francis, or even how hard I tried to be myself - no matter how many poems I wrote, or how much electricity I tried to save, or how many protests I went to; no matter if I stopped using cars, or change my name, or threw away my cell-phone, or how many times I gave away all my possessions, or how many countries I travelled to, or how many concerts I went to, or how many drugs I took, or how much sex I had, or how many miles I road on my bicycle - I wasnt actually changing, and this world wasnt actually changing either that was abundantly apparent. It was all just accumulating to a point wherein I finally took a look around I took a look inside myself and eventually just became utterly bitter. It was all a sham. I was the actual sham. I pushed myself to the razors edge on several occasions, simply for the shock value of it all, so I could hopefully get a sense of what it was to be alive you know, have a real live experience but none of it panned out of course, because when the energy juice ran out, I always came falling back down to earth with a big thud, and as this continued to happen year after year, it finally began to shatter me, and along with this my entire world began to crumble as well; because I had tried so vehemently to be against the system that when I finally realized this wasnt going to work, I had pushed myself so far away that even menial system tasks seemed foreign to me. It was quite a journey to get myself to the point wherein I decided to go back to college, to get a career do what those system people do, but even
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with doing this, I had quite a difficult time fitting back in to it all. I felt isolated, like I couldnt relate to anyone, especially not myself, and especially not my old group of friends who I was trying to go back to so that I could try and just have a normal life like everyone else. The fact of the matter was that I was trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I didnt know what else to do with myself, so I took that if you cant beat em join em mentality, which was actually a complete giving up and submission to the ways that be but I never actually fully submitted, because there was always this nagging sense of agony. Like actually painful it seemed. I was missing something. So when I was surfing on YouTube the day I saw my first Desteni video, I wasnt searching for or seeking after anything, not directly anyway. I wasnt trying to find an answer or solve a conspiracy theory or discover the true meaning of life or how to raise my vibrations or any of that. I had by that time came to a point where I saw all that as useless bullshit, but its not like I was okay with it - I was really quite angry about the entire thing, quite disdainful, because now I was stuck on earth in this fucked-up world, with these fucked-up thoughts, and I had to make my way somehow without any wonderful enlightenment awaiting me, boohoo. So, what was I doing on YouTube that day? I was doing an assignment for the college course I was taking in Mythology and Folklore, and we were busy with a lesson on creation stories, of which the Annunaki was one of them. So, I was simply looking for more information on the subject to write my assignment. There werent really many videos out there on the Annunaki, and the academic ones I found were quite dry, with stuffy men in tweed suits nasally droning on about what they presumed our creators were up to way back when. So when I came across a video by Sunette/the portal I was taken aback. She wasnt bald at the time. In fact her hair was long enough for it to be back in a headband - so like most, I didnt mistake her for a 14 year old boy, although she did still look quite young, which was a stark contrast in relation to the amount of confidence and clarity she was expressing. I listened to her video, but without much interest as I was looking for information to complete my assignment, which wasnt in regards to our ACTUAL creation story, so I then moved on to more dry academic drivel however, her video stuck with me, literally, lol as with each other Annunaki/Anu/Enki/Enlil/Marduk video I searched, Sunettes face kept popping up amongst the rest. So I finally capitulated, and decided to watch some more of the Desteni videos, and more, and more, and more and the more I watched throughout the wee hours
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of the night, the more I realized this was IT. I had been through quite an array of extra-ordinary situations in my life, so when it came to the point of the portal and what was being spoken, it didnt faze me in the least. In fact, I cant recall a moment of even questioning if the portal was real or not it was irrelevant to me. I simply heard the message, loud and clear - it made complete and absolute sense and literally in one moment, I began walking my process. Like I mentioned in the beginning: when I did something in my life, I didnt just stick my big toe in the water to test it, I jumped right the fuck in, and thats what I did with Desteni, which made for quite a splash in my entire world, as this was the missing piece that every other point throughout my life was missing myself I was the missing piece, and those who walk with/as Desteni assisted me to see this. I mean, I had at a point in my life sat for hours upon hours a day in meditation, to the extent that I started a meditation community where that was basically what we did. Sit. Watch the thoughts in our mind come, watch the thoughts in our mind go. So, through this I realized I was not my thoughts/feelings/emotions yet, I did not have the practical tools to support myself in dealing with or understanding clearly all the thoughts/feelings/emotions that arose within me, so I instead just suppressed them back down, which created quite a cesspool of shit within myself. I had no ways or means to practically, physically get it out. So it simply festered. Thus, when I discovered Desteni, it was like the first breath of fresh air I had ever taken in my entire existence, because it wasnt that I discovered Desteni, it was that I discovered myself. To meditate yourself into trance or sedation so that you need not to see, hear or feel the pain and suffering any longer is in no way a responsible and compassionate behaviour. It is an act of flight, the methods of alcoholics and other addicts. - Bernard Poolman I joined the forum and began writing and applying the tools of self-forgiveness and selfcorrective application. I step by step began to peel back the layers and saw that I am able to stop, stand up and take SELF-responsibility for who I am as the entirety of who I am, as all that is here, and as such it is my responsibility to ensure that all that is here, as myself, is living here in dignity. I pushed myself daily to investigate myself, as who I am as self-creator; who I have accepted and allowed myself to be, and who I will no longer accept and allow myself to be. I made the decision to no longer accept myself as a victim; to no longer accept myself or the state of this world as useless; to no longer accept the abuse that I inflict upon
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myself, and to no longer accept the abuse that plays out on a moment to moment basis in this world, as I saw clearly that it is merely a reflection of who I am inside myself. I made the self-directive decision to dare to hear, and care to listen. It was through Desteni that I realized the power of self-forgiveness, and man there were points in the beginning of my process when it became so overwhelming that self-forgiveness was literally the only point of support that pulled me through, and is definitely still the absolute point of self-support, as I still have many, many layers to walk through. It was those very points wherein I saw that I was able to actually forgive myself, stop, and stand up that I was able to see clearly what it is to walk this process, and what it actually takes therefore, anyone who has the courage to do so I stand with fully, as that was also one of the primary points that kept me here Destonians the beings who have willed themselves to walk this process, to support themselves, and to support each other as equals with integrity and humbleness no matter what. Its quite an honour, really, and I havent looked back. Not for a single moment. Not even when I wanted to look back, because I have realized to the very core of my being that looking back isnt real, and is only a point of self-sabotage to try and get me to deviate from what I am here to do, and what I am here to do is be here. Thats what weve disregarded here and look whats happened because of this: weve made a mess of ourselves, and this world. Weve squandered our inheritance like the prodigal son the inheritance of life and now we must go back home, to ourselves, to this physical reality - and we must forgive ourselves for being such spiteful cowards only existing in the bubble of our mind, who allow a world such as this to fall to shit while we chase our own pit-i-full self-interest only. I was able to hear the Desteni message because I was ready to hear I was ready to hear myself, to here-myself, and moreover I was ready to forgive myself. Are you? Lindsay Craver is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/46

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ADRIAN BLACKBURN
http://adrianblackburn.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/how-was-i-able-to-hear-the-desteni-message-my-story-of-finding-desteni/

23 January 2012 I can never remember a time in my life where I was truly happy yet in my life, I have had experiences of extreme happiness, extreme emotional highs, and lots and lots of good and great experiences of love, light and bliss. Yet, I have never been satisfied, I have never experienced myself and my world in a way where I lived in absolute certainty in happiness with myself and my world. If anything it was the contrary all that ever seemed to stand out about my life were the bad points no matter how much good I believed myself to be experiencing. In many ways I always hated life and rejected a lot of what I had experienced in my world. Since a young age, I always remember wanting a way out, like I was trapped, stuck in this reality without any understanding, perspective, insight or direction to what is going on in this world and inside myself. From this, I had never really settled on a version of life, on a way of life I tried, dont get me wrong, I tried to fit the molds, I played the part and sometimes I did a damn good job of it. But at the same time, it was almost as if I always kept an eye out for another way, I looked for that something else, that something hidden, almost like some form of God as a point of reference and direction in my world. I never found it. I became so lost in fact that by the age of 22, I had lost virtually everything in my world, save shelter and food, and even then it was not in ideal situation. I lost my long term girlfriend and everything that I had invested in love and my relationship was long destroyed and sullied, I lost my job, I lost my home, I became estranged from close family and hated what other family wanted to stay close to me, I lost my band which I had worked on for years and all future prospects of making it in this world were being destroyed, and within this all I had lost myself as I had became heavily addicted to drugs. This is when I began to question things and do research, because I wanted answers. I began researching things looking for answers as to why my life was so fucked up, and why so many peoples lives were so fucked up most people because at this point I could finally begin to relate to how most people in this world are actually experiencing life. It is not pretty, and all of the pretty pictures/dreams/hopes that I had surrounded myself which I had illusioned myself

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with were faded or destroyed. In my research, I began to figure things out. I began to see that it was not just me that had become so fucked up, but that it was most people and most importantly it was the people who were in power of control of this world who were actually the most nefarious of all. This changed a lot for me because I was becoming so accustomed to believing that I was the one who was born in sin, that I am evil and there is something wrong with me and that this is just the way I am. I became sick of my own suffering, and more than anything, I began to stand up out of self respect to find out: what the fuck is really going on in this world? I did tons of research, I scoured the internet and began learning the essence of just about every aspect of this world in search for answers. However, as much as I learned, and as much as my eyes began to open to some things, I still never found like I found that one ultimate point of direction, that contextualizes and gives perspective and understanding to all things in this world this one point that connected all the dots. Then one night I was up late just browsing the internet it was like I didnt even know what I was looking for. I began watching old Kurt Cobain interviews, because I had basically been reminded of a long-lost chapter in my life where I was a big Kurt Cobain fan. I dont know why, but in a way it was like a point of getting back to myself in revisiting the past. There was a link on the side to another video that had Kurt Cobains name in the title, I clicked it without knowing what it was and began watching it. Suddenly, (what I thought was) a little boy in a white room began speaking. I had no idea what it was and yet I was compelled. The person started talking about vampires, saying humans were vampires, and then started explaining about how human beings are mind consciousness systems who were basically nothing more than zombies sucking the life out of each other. I didnt fully understand it, and yet everything seemed to make complete sense. I had no reference, yet none of it I could argue with and the expression was actually like watching my own expression, but just put into a vocabulary and context that I had not found within myself to express myself. This is all not to mention the pureness of the words being spoken. I am used to hearing real bullshit everywhere in this world and I had become extremely good at being a bullshitter myself, so the few times that I could see a person speaking truth, it was very noticeable.
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I had a sense of I dont know what this is, but there is something going on here, something profound this is something that I know I must investigate, and I did. 4 Years later my life has changed a lot, and all for the better. It has been a very rough period in my life, and yet through all the difficult times I must say that I have grown, with the support, assistance and perspective that I had provided myself by investigating the Desteni material further. As I mentioned, I did not fully grasp it wall in the beginning, and so I made a commitment to myself that I would investigate and research until I understood. It was purely a matter of self honesty at this point in my life where I had through losing everything and becoming totally lost realized that I never have ever had a real education in this world, and that I had NO idea what was actually going on in this world. That in itself is a statement of humility in self honesty, yet it was losing everything that allowed my to realize this as there is a tendency to not question things and assume that we have it all figured out when we have money in our pockets and our life is working out. But through the difficult times I was enabled to actually stand up to actually transcend a false sense of knowing it all, start living with some self respect and actually, to myself selfhonestly look in the mirror and say I will not stop until I have figured this out, I will not stop until I have sorted myself out. From this perspective I would say money can be one of the most dangerous things to have and I would be very careful about the tendency to get settled and comfortable in this world. That is real deceptive stuff when you live in a world of absolute abuse, suffering and lack where most people are suffering because they dont have what you have and they desperately want what you have. That is dangerous. And despite even being fucked up already and having huge ego problems by this point in my life I could not deny one point: that I was suffering, that this world was suffering, and it is from this perspective that I say that the Desteni message is one of self respect. Now, I dare myself and I dare everyone every day to stand up and live with self respect. Investigate what we share and do at Desteni, get involved, support yourself, assist yourself, and in turn support others and stop the abuse and suffering that is so prevalent in the lives of everyone in this world.

Adrian Blackburn is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/19

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MANUELA JUNGMAN
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCK9syrt_vg

30 January 2012

Manuela Jungmann is a DIP Agents http://www.desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/136

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JOE KOU
http://stoppingjoekou.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

29 January 2012 I was able to hear the desteni message because the more I investigated and actually began to apply the common sense realizations shared by those who have been walking this process of self honesty and standing as what is best for all, the more I began to see for myself the extent of separation I have allowed myself to exist as, and the more I asked questions and participated in the discussions that were busy unfolding on the forums and as I watched the many videos and listened to the interviews, the realization became more and more clear that these people actually know what they are talking about, and they are sharing a message that is vital for all of us to hear the actual, practical, nitty gritty of how we got to the state that we currently exist in where we live our lives believing our thoughts and feelings to be real and never in fact actually being alive or even being aware of what life actually is. The desteni message is not one of hope or airy-fairy magical solutions for a wold that is obviously headed toward assured destruction. The desteni message will not make you feel better about yourself or promise to make you wealthy. The desteni message will not give you peace of mind or assist you to find your perfect soul mate with whom you will live in bliss and love because all of these things are the very illusions that we as humanity have sold ourselves to for generation after generation, keeping ourselves willfully blind to the actual world and the untold suffering that our lack of consideration and common sense has wrought. I was able to hear the desteni message because for the first time I began to see people who actually cared people who actually began to call it like it is that this world is completely unacceptable and that we ourselves are responsible for it. For the first time, I began to hear people speak with an honesty that resonated so deeply that I was no longer able to hold onto my private and personal bubble of pretending that the world is just fine and that eventually I will be able to become wealthy and famous and have the life that I always thought I wanted. I was hearing self-honesty. I was hearing words spoken by beings who were not trying to put up a front or try to be liked I was hearing words that were actually REAL words that come directly from actual realization that has been lived and cross referenced. And these words
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were so different from anything else that I had heard these words spoke of a world that I could see directly a world that in fact did not match the empty promises and the picturesque scenes painted by religion or spirituality that had been sold and accepted as the truth for so long. In the beginning it was rather painful and shocking the extent to which I had isolated myself into my own mind and how much of this actual, physical world I had ignored and taken for granted and the innumerable beings who exist upon this planet that I had not ever taken into consideration. Yet after the initial shock began to wear off I was able to unconditionally explore and see what the desteni message was about because it was more than just a message it was more than just a realization or perspective because in hearing the message and actually understanding and becoming aware of what is being shared, one realizes that just hearing the message is not enough that we must do something about what we have done because we are the only ones who can. As I continued participating and asking questions and applying myself within my own process to assist and support me to question this reality and develop a point of self-honesty and common sense, I was able to see that it is not all about doom and gloom that it is not just about showing us that we are destroying ourselves and our world and creating a hell on earth because within hearing the message and realizing what is in fact going on, is also the very SOLUTION is also the very point of correction that will allow us to not only take responsibility for ourselves, but also to radically change the way in which we create this reality a radical new beginning that will allow us to, for the very first time in all existence, actually create a world that will be a heaven on earth. For the first time ever, I began to see this world not only as being doomed and fucked beyond any sense of hope for a better future I began to see that all that is here all that is occurring in our world and in our lives is showing us that we are in fact creators of this reality, and as we take back our responsibility for ourselves and restore our own point of selfcreation, realizing that we are NOT slaves to our minds, to our fears, to our self-accepted beliefs, and that we are able to radically change ourselves through a process of self-honesty and self-change, it is not only possible, but inevitable, that this world and this reality come to the same realization that we do not have to continue this hell on earth and that we can in fact bring heaven here. For so long we have been lost within our minds lost to the fear and anxiety we all
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experience within a world in which we cannot trust each other a world in which we abdicate ourselves and do not dare to stand up for what is best for all and instead become spiteful and manipulative in order to play the game of survival. For so long we accepted this as just the way it is without understanding how exactly our minds work and how exactly we have created every single thing that is here, or seeing any kind of solution that would actually stand the test of time and not just end up as another empty promise. But now, we have a real shot a once in an existence shot to forever change what is here so that we create a world that is at all times based on the principle of what is best for all a world that will no longer reflect the self destruction and the pain we have carried inside ourselves as we, one by one, realize the lies and illusions that have been placed before us and begin to see through the veils, one by one we will hear the desteni message as so many already are and one by one we will seek and find the actual solution for this world, for this reality, for this existence. Now, I walk a process in which I am taking myself back and restoring again my own point of self-creation now I walk a process to undo the harm and pain I have caused myself and others and allowed within this world. I have heard the desteni message and it is one that cannot be unheard. This will be the most difficult thing I have ever done the point of actually facing myself and all of my demons and within this process I will undoubtedly face challenges and hardships but I will also stand up I will also, step by step, breath by breath, sort out the mess in me and in so doing sort out the mess in my world and in my relationships... and I will do this while walking with others who have also heard the desteni message. So if you are new to desteni if you have reservations or fears or doubts or if you had heard the message but have not fully allowed yourself to make the commitment of walking this process, I suggest you not hesitate and do not let the fears and limitations of the mind hold you back from being able to stand up and reclaim your point of selfcreation and self-expression to stand up as the life that you have always been and walk with those who dare to stop the abuse within ourselves and within our world.

Joseph Kou is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/55

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KIM AMOURETTE
http://processoflife.blogspot.com/2012/01/2012-why-i-listened-to-desteni-message.html

18 January 2012 Desteni and their message can create much controversy in the realms of the internet, especially back when they had all their videos of Sunette as the interdimensional portal channeling all conceivable beings in existence on youtube - these channels have been taken down by youtube because they were being flagged by beings who felt that the Desteni message wasnt resonating with them, they felt threatened in some way - so, like I said, the Desteni message has created some controversy. Mainly because it is such an unusual message, that is brought in an unusual way - and human beings feel threatened by everything that is unusual, which we then all too automatically judge as weird, strange and freaky, all words that we have assigned a negative emotional charge, so based on these judgments we will often decide that something is bad and negative, not ever really fully understanding what is being presented to us because were not really willing to investigate with an open mind. This is something that I have noticed when I brought up Desteni in a conversation with friends and family and in the way that people sometimes react to the Desteni message as what those who are walking the Desteni process of self-change are expressing to the world. So what made me then hear the Desteni message? How come the Desteni message resonated with me and not with many others? The reason I ask myself this question is because if one were to fully investigate what Desteni is about and apply the tools that is being presented such as self forgiveness, self honesty and self-corrective application, one would come to the realization that what Desteni shares is the most important message that has ever been expressed in this reality - a message that would save us all, as something that we as all of humanity have been waiting for since the dawn of man. They present the ultimate solution to this world, a solution that is based on actual real life investigation and application of these tools that has proven its effectiveness through time and that has been brought forth by the people behind Desteni. Looking back at when I discovered Desteni and the state of mind that I was in that made
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me susceptible to their message - I can say that I was in a general feeling of lostness, despair even, I felt like I had no sense of direction. Ever since I got out of high school I had been attempting to make something of my life as what was apparently expected of me by my family and society, though all of my attempts ended up in me basically giving up within this feeling that I simply dont see the point. I didnt see the point of why I had to do all these things with my life, what is the purpose of life anyway. this experience within myself, a sense of dissatisfaction with my life and not really knowing fully why or how I got to that point of feeling like I did, led me to start investigating into spirituality as the feeling that there must be something more to life than what I was experiencing, a reason behind it all that I must have always been missing. I read books, I meditated, went to a meditation course (Vipassana), tried visualization, got into The Secret (Law of Attraction) and eventually started doing research on the internet about various topics that seemed to go into the hidden reality of this world like all the conspiracy theories, unexplained events, the paranormal, the supernatural, UFOs, cropcircles, etcetera in which I could dig deeper and deeper and deeper yet it never seemed to end. And I was just looking for something, some kind of answer, some kind of purpose, anything - because I had this experience within myself on not understanding who I am or what life is or why I am here. And even though I meditated and participated in all the spiritual beliefs, I still didnt quite get it - as to the why? of everything, of this entire reality. Then I came across a video of Sunette portalling Hitler from the afterlife - and the first thing that struck me was that this was definitely unlike anything I had ever come across. Its funny that even though here was this girl who could apparently leave her body completely and Hitler as a demon from the interdimensional existence could step into her body entirely and speak to us on this youtube channel, as something that is in fact totally out of the ordinary - I still felt like this was the most real, honest and direct expression that I had ever seen/heard, maybe even in my entire life. I immediately started investigating the Desteni material and found that their message was exactly what I had been looking for - because what they shared was not just one of many spiritual messages of love and light and divinity that is mostly based on belief, hope and pretty words, which had only seemed to be instilling this inner confusion only further. What they presented was an actual practical solution, a tool to work with, which is self forgiveness and writing to freedom - that anyone could apply for themselves to truly find out who self is. the only necessity was for me to find out for myself whether or not what they shared was real or not by applying the tools. And so I did - I started applying self forgiveness and I started
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writing myself to freedom and instantly I could see, within applying myself, that this works. I saw that this was the answer that I had always been looking for, the only answer that could ever be real - which was where I would, rather than meditating to some energy based on a belief or placing my hopes and expectations for a better life in the hands of some Guru, master or guide and their message of bliss and love, learn to take responsibility for myself and face myself as who I am completely. This is something that I have in some way always known to be the answer to life as who I am though what had always been missing was the practical tools to do this - and these tools is what I found at Desteni. Desteni did not expect me to believe in their message or to blindly follow them in their convictions, as opposed to what I had always experienced with all the beings in my life like my family, teachers and politicians - but they made it very clear that whether or not you will be effective in realizing who you really are as life itself as oneness and equality is completely dependent on your application of the tools, which is the point of self-responsibility. this is the point that I have found to be all determining - having walked the process of self-realization since 2008. Because within me taking responsibility for me in every moment of breath, standing as me as the living statement of life itself - I determine and decide who I am, I decide my purpose. Therefore there is no more searching, hoping, expecting or longing for a purpose in life as something separate from myself - as I am the purpose of life, within and as who I really am as I live here, within full awareness of who I am and within full responsibility of myself as the determining factor of my life. Within applying these tools of self forgiveness, self honesty and self-corrective application, I have been able to permanently stop this experience of lostness, despair and uncertainty within myself as I realize that I am responsible for me, therefore I have the ability to stop all such experiences within myself - and the key has always been self-responsibility. So, back to my initial question of why is it that I have been able to hear the Desteni message while others havent?. What I found is that I was open to try anything, to investigate anything, as I was determined to find out about life as what is going on in this world and who I am here - simply because I had lived a life that did not please me, I could not find anything that would make me feel good about myself anymore. Its like Desteni was my only option, my only Destiny - so its obvious that as long as people have things in their life that they do not want to give up, they will not consider that change is possible and even necessary.
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Its only when you lose everything that you will start looking for answers and start to open yourself up to the possibilities of what is here. This is the human nature as the ego, wherein people will keep on participating in good, positive feelings as ignorance and unawareness as long as they possibly can - believing that this is who they really are, when really it is not. So, what is necessary for humanity to start hearing Desteni as the message of change? Obviously what is necessary is for all of our lives to start collapsing, for us to lose the things/ people in our lives that we keep holding onto within the belief that we need them to exist - so that we can realize that this is not who we really are and so we can stand up as the living expression of who we really are as life as oneness and equality within and as complete self-responsibility. And why is this change necessary? Because if we do not start taking responsibility for who we are within ourselves, we are unable to really take responsibility for this world - and the result of that is what we are at the moment faced with, which is the complete destruction of this planet of earth due to to parasitic nature of the human ego that does not consider anything other than its own personal feelings of happiness, bliss and love and that does not in fact see what is really going on in reality. Its time we stand up and realize who we really are as life as self-responsible beings that take responsibility for all of life as what is here. So visit Desteni, as it is our only destiny - and the destiny of earth. Also investigate an Equal Money System - the new monetary system that will bring about heaven on earth so all living being may live in dignity!

Kim Amourette is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/165

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CATHY KRAFFT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VIXJmPhNDA

28 January 2012

Here I share how from the moment I watched the first Desteni video and reading the massive amounts of material on the Desteni Forum website, some 4 years ago - I knew that I had to continue to study the material for as long as they were willing to share it. Because to actually be able to apply tools where self can begin to stop fear, ego, self-judgment and self-doubt was like nothing Id ever heard of, and made more sense than any education Id ever been given. Desteni for me, is home. Cathy Krafft is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/23

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KRISTINA SALAS
http://equalitywalk.blogspot.com/2012/01/howwhy-i-am-able-to-hear-desteni.html

29 January 2012 Where do I start? I suppose my whole life was leading to this point - where I face myself and this world in its totality. I mean its inevitable for us all to face the truth of ourselves - as we cannot continue on the path we are currently on - there has to be a change - whether we like it or not. Because in the End - Life is calling each one to wake up to the realization that we are here - we are responsible and we are the only ones to change ourselves/this world. No one can save us - no one can change us - we have to move ourselves and decide for ourselves what life is - who we are in relation to life and how life will be lived. As we can see currently - this thing we call life - is only self destruction. And so - we have to stop and re consider the path we are walking - and dare to do something that has never been done in all of the time humans have walked on this earth.... See each other and ourselves Equal. Live Equality and Oneness and stop waiting for an imaginary being/beings to direct ourselves - but to BE the directive Principle of ourselves and our Life and to create a world that is BEST FOR ALL - it is time, once and for ALL. So again - where do I start? I found Desteni/the desteni message about 2 and a half years ago. At that time I was working at job I had been at for over 6 years, living alone, drinking, using marijuana consistently, existing in polarity(on again off again) with my boyfriend at the time - and still seeking and searching for anything that gave me answers to the questions that existed within me since the time I entered this world. I was living stagnantly - waiting for something outside of myself to tell me who I am - where I come from - why I am here and what was my purpose in this Life. While I didnt ever question the world systems that are currently in place - I knew there was something more to life - I know there was something I was missing. I knew that this desire to know myself was real and my whole life was a quest in finding that which I was looking for. Never realizing I was only looking for myself. But I didnt see this/realize this - I used religions and spirituality and books and gurus and self help books to tell me anything that made sense and ultimately made me feel special in life and content with myself. -This never lasted.
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I wanted desperately to be somebody in this world. I wanted to be special - to have a special purpose in Life - to be known and looked up to and seen as something great. I attempted to attain these tings through various ways. In high school - I was set within a predetermined life where I was told I was going to be famous. I was going to be in the entertainment industry and was going to make a lot of money. I was told I was beautiful and my beauty was rare. I was told I was special. And even though I did not feel this way about myself - as I was always uncomfortable within my own skin - I wanted to feel better and believe everything that everyone told me. So I pursued this desire to be special through acting and modeling classes. Years and years I believed this was what I was suppose to do - and I did all I could. I believed once I get this - then I will be happy and will be content with my life - and I will be able to use my statues to bring awareness to this world. lol - sound pretty egotistical doesnt it? Well I was - but within the starting point of extreme sense of being unworthy and different and not good enough and I wanted with all my being to feel special - to not feel like an outsider - to be accepted by others and this world and to have a special place in this existence. Once I finally became self honest with myself within realizing this is not what I want - I dont want to be famous - I dont want to be an actress or a model - realizing this was placed before me as a path I was suppose to live - I decided to stop my delusions and attempt to fulfill an idea of myself and let it go completely. This is the first time I experienced a sense of freedom. Backing up just a little bit - the reason I held such a belief in this i wanna be famous was because growing up I was exposed to 2 forces that are currently driving this world mad. Religion and Spirituality. Religion on my dads side of the family where I was sent to church and learned about god and heaven and hell and what would happen to be if I was a sinner. Once this no longer played a part in my life anymore - I had my moms side - of spirituality. Where there were beliefs of ghost and the after life and life purposes and souls and psychics and healers and the idea that there was a reason and purpose for our lives. I learned about past lives and reincarnation and communication with the other side. I learned about gifts of the soul and being able to open up to more then what we can see in this world. And through this - believing that there was a reason I was here on earth - that I decided to be born into this world and my life was a lesson for me to live - to advance as a soul in heaven. That this was just one of many lives I had lived and that I decided and planned my life before I got here - and will remember again why I decided to come here after this life was over.
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So my motivation in life was to find out why I was here. What was my purpose - what did I plan to experience - what lessons did I need to learn? And throughout my life - I had many psychic readings that all told me the same thing. I was going to have a life of bliss - and I was going to be someone great and that I would be happy and I would help people. Great - I thought - now when will this happen? I was in a constant state of waiting.... believing that my life was already planned out - so I just needed to go with the flow and enjoy the ride. So that was my life. Waiting for something outside of myself to tell me what to do - to direct me - to give me a SIGN. My whole life was reading into what was happening outside of myself and trying to find a deeper meaning and a path I could follow. Fuck - I was such a follower. Believing whatever that made me feel special and comforted me within my overall dissatisfaction with life. As a child - I had questioned who am I and why do I experience myself the way that I do? What is this voice in my mind? Why can I hear myself within my mind - what is this internal dialogue that I am able to have. Why does it seam like I can actually hear myself but no one else could. I would not get these answers until many many many many years later when I was finally ready to become self honest and take responsibility for myself as life. I am jumping a bit all over the place within this writing - but its like - my whole life was bringing me to this point of Desteni - all my life I was being prepared to face the truth of myself and its because of the life that I lived and the questions I asked myself that I was open enough to hear - to see what is here. I had experiences with psychic development classes - learning to trust my intuition and the desire to open myself up to my higher self. Believing that there was a part of myself that was aware of myself in the totality of myself and all I had to do was train myself to open myself up to know all that my higher self knew - to have this higher more expansive perspective of life and who I was within and as a part of the puzzle. Because ultimately - I wanted to know what life was. Why we were here - how am I aware of myself in this life and not others. What is the point of this life. Why does the world exist the way it does - how did it come about to be this. Where were we going - simply - what the fuck was the point? Every time I beLIEved I has an answer - I was content for a bit, until the energy ran out and I sought out for more knowledge and information. It was 2007 that I had discover the secret
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and the law of attraction that I thought I hit the jack pot. I was told I was the creator of my reality - that my reality and experience could change if I simply changed the way I looked at it = my state of mind. I believed my thoughts were was created this reality - that they were real - and the thoughts I had would create the reality of myself. And so - I accepted this idea that I am my mind - I am my thoughts - and so I wanted to have a blissful lovely life where I felt good and could experience of joy that life is. So i thought only positive thoughts. I looked to the brighter side - I stayed positive. No mater what happened - I always found the beauty in it - the silver lining - finding the reason things were the way they were - in accepting what was here as negative/positive and believing I could choose which side of the coin I could exist within. So I stopped my participation in the negative. I stopped paying attention to what I defined as negative - which was this world as the bigger picture and just focused on the positive in my moment to moment reality. Believing if I just painted a pretty picture - then I would create this for myself. But it was all based on money - believing I could create more money for myself which in turn would create a better life experience for me. I was in complete acceptance of this current economic system and was lost in self interest to create a better life for me and to have what i wanted. But I could never live this constantly - I was always fluctuating, And every time I would fall from the high I would have to push myself to get back on top to feel better believing this what who I really was and how I would get everything I desire in life. At this time - my religious and spirituality back ground came together for me - and I thought I had it all figured out. We are all one - yet various level of the one. I believed there was a god/higher being that has a master plan to this world - and that I could have a relationship with this god. And that this god would guide me as it was a part of me - where I came from - and I had the gift of god to create a life that was meant to be lived. But it was no in the best interest of all - as I accepted we were all on various levels of awareness - there was no equality - only that we were one and each one learning whatever lessons were needed for them. I even justified the people that starve to death in this world - and those that got raped - and the those thta are abused - that we are all creating our own realities - and there was a reason all of this shit existed. Wow - what a fuck up! Then - the energy of the secret dissipated and I was again finding myself wanting to know more. To find more - looking again anywhere I could to find out the truth of this life. This brought me to the internet and its grand selection of information that fuels all sorts of belief systems in this world. I started looking into conspiracy theories - about the government - the
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elite, 9/11. Even aliens and government cover ups. I started seeing michael moore films which supported me to see there was something wrong with the world systems that we currently have - and thats when I was finally ready to hear the solution - to myself and this world. Within all of this shit that i Have layed out here - all this stuff was iwthin my mind - i was defining myself according to all this stuff - accepted what I wanted to hear and used whatever I could to make sense of myself what what is going on in this world. It was then early 2009 - and I believed there was something happening within humanity. There was an awakening taken place. Obama just got into office - more people were becoming aware of higher consciousness and the truth about our world systems/goverments/the elite. More and more people were seeking some sort of truth out there and I beleived we were heading for a mass awakening. This tied into to the whole mayan prophecy - and believed we were living in an exciting time on earth. we were facing changes on a global scale and it would happen magically and without anyone taking relsponsibility - but it was a process happening outside of ourselves that we just had to go through. And then... I found desteni. At first glance - I was intrigued because I was seeing this girl channel (as I would describe it from my perspective/experiences). I thought it was cool but didnt investigate it more. Except I kept finding myself back to her youtube channel. And the more videos I watched - the more I opened up to what was being said. I saw the many vast videos she had - like over 600 videos of beings from the dimensions speaking about life and existence and humanity and life after death and about what is here as this reality. The first few months of going back and forth to the videos - it didnt all make sense to me. I wasnt actually hearing what was being said - I was just watching from the perspecitve of seeking new information and knowledge that I could add to my list of beliefs. Then something hit me. I decided this is the most realistic point I have ever experienced as a being channeling form the other side. So many beings with so many videos all sharing the same message. Humanity was existing in separation of themselves and beleiving they are just thinking machines. That each one was looking outside of themselves for answers to who they are without considering that each is simply here. I then decided to start from the beginning. I went to the very first video that was ever shared and walked through them until I was caught up. What I learned through this process and could see clearly for myself - was that Humans were conditioned mind personality - existing
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as thoughts feelings and emotions. Pretending to be this personality and existing in self interest and separation from each other - each existing in their own mind bubble reality where we did not consider this physical reality or ourselves as simply physical breathing beings. Going back again, through out all my many finding in different belief systems - I was never presented with practical tools I could live. I was told to just have an attitude about life and never dared to question what was here as life and nature and the world systems and the many different structures and relationships. And I always felt like I was never doing enough - or that I didnt know how to actually support and assist myself to become self realized - or to change - I only had many ideas and beliefs that I had to follow and have faith in - never was it presented to me to become self honest, or to consider taking responsibility for what have been created within my reality and this world. Desteni gave it to me straight. While there were many beings sharing many experiences - the message was stable and always the same. It was direct - it was raw - and it was revealing to me just how much i was abdicating my self responsibility for myself and who I was. Everything made sense to me - it was common sense. This world exists the way it does - because I exist the way that I do. It was a mirror reflecting to me who I have accepted and allowed myself to be and become. What this world was - was me. Competition, war, abuse, separation, polarity, beliefs... all of this exists because I have accepted and allowed it within myself. As above so below. As within so without. I realized I am equal and One with what is Here as this World with ALL that is here as this world - and it was time to stop trying to ignore the realization that I am responsibility for this world in inequality. It was time to start forgiving myself and moving myself to become real. Because what I began to see - is that i accepted myself as this thinking being. That I am my thoughts and this secret reality I have within myself was who I was - not realizing that that is the illusion. That was is real is what is physical and what matters is what is in matter. The mind was an alternate reality I was existed within - separate form this one reality we all share. I was ignoring myself as life - as the physical - all here equal and one - through allowing myself to exist within my mind - in the past and the future, in beliefs and perceptions, within my own self interest of a personality i designed to find a place in this world. I was supported to start questioning what was here - to question who I accepted myself to be - what I accepted myself to believe - and to realize I have enslaved myself to the conditions of my life experiences. I have trapped myself within my minds eye of who I am - and I have completely disregarding all life as me through accepting this world the way it is - not realizing I am actually responsible. I was supported in realizing I have been waiting my whole life to
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find something outside of myself not realizing that I am Here. Simple as that. I am Here - in this world - in this body - in this One life and I have been wasting my life seeking to find fulfillment outside of myself. I have been in self interest looking for my purpose and reason without investigating solutions for this world - I was only looking for solutions for myself. I was supported in realizing to wait for an after life is to spit on this world and the millions that suffer. To live my pursuit of happiness without the consideration of what is best for all is the definition of evil - as I was then participating in the creation and continuation of this world as inequality/separation. I had completely separated myself from myself and it was time for me to face Reality - to come back to earth - to get real and to start living a solution for this world. To be the change I want to be in this world. SO I was able to hear the desteni message - because I was ready to become self honest. I heard/saw the common sense of what was being shared and I knew that Equality was the only solution to this world. Even after applying the tools and participating within the group for awhile - I wanted to stop and go back to my life of ignorance - wanting to go back to my personality that was accepted by society - and didnt want to be responsible for myself any more. But the more I tried to do this - the more I saw what Desteni shared was the truth. That this world is evil and each of us are responsible. That the Desteni of the Universe is the birth of Equality and Oneness. And this Process of change/rebirth happens through actual practical living applications. Breathing - writing, self honesty, self forgiveness, self corrective statements/applications - to stop the pre-programmed lives we were meant to live that supports the current state of the world - and to equality within ourselves the polarities that exist within us as the mind - to get back to earth - to get real - to face what is Here as ourselves - to direct ourselves and to stop being a slave to our thoughts, feelings and emotions. TO once and for ALL DIRECT ourselves to be that which is Best for All - a Human Being breathing Here taking responsibility for all as one as equal and walking a process to correct this world - because we see it is unacceptable. This was my desteni. I cannot hide the truth of myself - as I see myself within every moment I am here. I see when I am moving from fear or desire or self interest or jealousy or competition, and its up to me to stop and re create my starting point to one that I direct. where I am not being directed by my mind as these various energy manifestations - but living here as life as the breathe as the physical - letting go of all self definitions I have accepted of myself - and walk this process of self change. To change myself and to change this world. Because I realize - None are Free Until All are Free - and All are Free within Equality.
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I realize to wait for a savior is to accept enslavement - and if I want something done I have to do it myself. I realize/could see that I dont need to wait to get to heaven before I realize myself - I can bring heaven here for all and we can start actually living. The Desteni message is stable, It is common Sense. It is what is Best for All - and it is the Solution to the freedom of All Life. I couldnt deny what I could see for myself. Now its just time to Live it. Kristina Salas is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/80

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MATTI FREEMAN
http://youtu.be/h6fy0r1LZMk

04 February 2012

2012 - My Personal Ascension Experience and How I was able to Hear the Desteni Message How do I raise my vibration? What are we here to learn on Earth? How do I stop anger? What are the lessons of the Physical What are emotions? Reality? How did I create my patterns? Does spirituality help you transcend the Why does my life not work the way its physical reality? supposed to? How do we heal the world? Why do my relationships fail? Is life energy? How do I achieve inner peace? Why does suffering exist? Matti Freeman is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/54
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MARLEN VARGAS DEL RAZO

http://marlenvargasdelrazo.wordpress.com/2012/02/04/why-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni/

04 February 2012 Getting to Desteni and having my curiosity about the most intricate questions at an existential level clarified and resolved with such ease and immediacy, lead me to be now curious about what would become of this life once that we had those answers that had occupied our minds for entire lifetimes as human beings. What would we now do with our reality now that it had been exposed as the perfect enslavement plan that we had complied to in an equal desire to experience life on Earth? Now that there are no more locks to this, the quest simplified itself. What remained was the simplicity of myself having to face my reality beginning with debunking my precious as the ego/ personality idea of myself that I had devoted my life to construct/ develop at some point in means of being ultimately accepted and recognized within my narrow perception of the world wherein everyone just sought to be happy and live a comfortable li(f)e. The moment that I realized I had to face myself, my reaction was that of resignation, resistance and even sadness within the perception that giving up my desires and dreams was like committing suicide while being alive and becoming a robot, which is a common initial judgment based on our usual understanding of stopping the mind as becoming nothing else but a breathing sack of muscles and bones. This statement I have realized to be the first point that I had neglected throughout my life while seeking some spiritual self-worth in some ethereal version of me, this was neglecting myself as the physical body that I am. This was the most obvious yet shocking aspect that I had to start forgiving myself for as it was within this basic denial that my entire perception of the world became an elusive alternate reality wherein I wouldnt have to be carrying myself physically, wherein I would be able to leave this mortal coil and exist forever in some fluffy space. I was wrong, I had to go backwards and forgive myself for having accepted and allowed myself to consider me as only a vessel which was mostly an idea that I took out of convenience from some spiritual books and new age paraphernalia. This is how I started seeing that I had chosen to believe in things that would support my initial starting point of wanting to escape from myself, from this reality and not having to face it in any way as myself.
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Realizing that this entire world was in essence in reverse was shocking. Discovering that the light and love that we tend to seek was linked to the very perpetual enslavement of humanity within this enclosed systematic reality became a powerful and almost instant detonator to my incipient beliefs in spiritual realms and my preference in believing in a better experience in the afterlife. Once that I was able to get rid of my beliefs as I went studying the material, directing myself to watch videos, documentaries, shock-videos, conspiracy theories, explanations on the monetary system as well as any other social-problem, I was able to replace my then interest for the occult, the spiritual, the non-tangible realms of mindfucks that I had indulged myself in for quite some time, to start looking at the harsh reality that is here, being lived everyday in this world. Watching this material was the bucket of cold water that I required to realize how much I had neglected while existing in my own little cocoon of lovely ideas to make this world seem a nice place in a superficial way. I realized the extent of self-talk that I had imprinted on me to project a complacent image to be liked, to be accepted in order to fit within a society while suppressing the actual existential woe that I hadnt allowed myself to face as myself. Seeing the world through videos, documentaries allowed me to once again become interested in creating a change at a social level, which is something that I had ditched out to step into a more spiritual transformation which is when I was went a bit deep into the rabbit hole without being able to find substantial solutions. Why I was able to hear Desteni is because I realized that no other living principle, doctrine, philosophy or set of beliefs had ever considered the most obvious fact of us being One and Equal as Life and be able to take this realization into a practical and applicable manner such as the tools of Self Forgiveness, Self Honesty, Writing ourselves to freedom from the starting point of supporting ourselves to step out of that self reclusion from HERE, stepping out of our own mind-bubble and integrating ourselves to live HERE physically breathing, physically aware of how other living beings are experiencing themselves here on Earth, how it is that our man-made systems have harmed and abused life in the name of greed and power within an anthropocentric idea of this world belonging to us, the so-called rational species. All of this information lead me to step down from my self-proclaimed ideals of grandeur and desires for attaining something in separation of myself. Its been a process of walking in humbleness, deliberately stopping any form of ideals to fulfill in the name of my personal interest. I am instead becoming aware of common sense as a living principle thats best for all in equality, which has allowed me to see how the possibility of change exists in everyone
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if we Will ourselves live it/ do it. The moment I saw the effectiveness that I was able to create within my life through the application of the tools, I realized how I was dis.covering the actual power that had always existed Here as myself, yet always neglected and tampered while seeking some superior knowledge to fulfill my egotistic tendencies to know it all and be knowledgeable in an attempt to control myself, others and my reality. Seeing the truth of myself became quite a pain that I had to face as a process of selfliberation that I had not conceived was possible before. We are so used to accept our reality as it is without ever questioning it, without ever daring to challenge our own ways as quirks, preferences, personality, beliefs, ideals, fears, dreams as much as it seemed like going through hell at times when facing the truth of myself, I can only now recall it as a necessary shock for me to take off the nice veneer that I was protecting myself with to be able to cope with the world yet having to be continually deceiving myself. Stopping self-deception is a constant application yet a very necessary step to establish Self Honesty as who we are in every moment. Realizing that we are able to actually support ourselves to correct our personalities, our patterns, behaviors, stopping the unconceivable unchangeable quirks and addictions, is something that had never been inculcated in this world because of everything being specifically designed to keep an entire enslavement system in place, wherein everything was specifically set up so that no one would ever realize the actuality of who we really are as life, as equals, as that true power that we are and that we are still in the process of discovering and walking it as ourselves. It was only through Desteni that I was able to quench my thirst toward attaining knowledge and instead, got spoon-fed with common sense wherein I realized how much I was seeking outside of myself while missing the obvious, missing myself as every breath that I am here, existing in full potential to do and act according to whats best for all, to be that point that stops the sins of the fathers, to be that revolutionary point within the system. To me Desteni had to become something as revolutionary as the idea of the world being round or the discovery of fire I mean, the fact that it has not gone mainstream is due to us human beings mostly fearing to lose our status quo, regardless of what extensive amounts of self abuse and fear accompany such voluntary permanence in the same old ways, just because of fearing to step into the unknown and realize who we really are and what we can be and become if we stand as equals.
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Removing this inherent aspect of self importance as that extensive and intense selfconscious way of existing has allowed me to walk in consideration of other beings as myself, of realizing the actual power that self-support to realize equality as who we really are as a key factor to establish the collectiveness that we had lost within a system of survival of the fittest, a system that we had accepted and allowed ourselves to perpetuate in the name of winning and losing, of surviving, of power and control. All of that is able to be walked and self corrected within and through walking this process within the platform and network of support that Desteni is and represents as everyone participating within the application and practical implementation of the necessary changes within ourselves to finally prove to ourselves and the world that we are able to stand up for Life and transform ourselves into beings that care. We are walking the proof of how we can remove all those thick layers of self-diminishment, self judgment, self negligence to dis-cover the truth of ourselves as the full potential to learn how to live as equals and eventually, be HERE in equality and oneness which is the process itself that we walk here in every moment breath by breath. Breathing, how much had I neglected this constant and consistent physical confirmation of: I am here, I am part of this reality, living with beings that are also breathing, that are myself and that I require to stop ignoring while only existing up there in my mind. I have discovered what it is to stand as equals, not to only care in self interest of another/ others, but as an actual process of seeing that all is already HERE and I just require myself to direct myself and do what is best for all. I am now realizing that any and all limitations and fears that we have lived by have been self created locks to prevent us from actually LIVING. Ive stepped out of having no purpose to live and wandering around in a life of seeking fulfillment outside of myself, and realizing that I am in fact able to stop living in fear, stop living as the ideas and limitations of not being able to change ourselves, stopped complying to what I had believed myself to be and dared to see myself, to challenge and stop any beliefs and ideas of who I am in order to stand as a living principle that doesnt require to form a personality to cope with reality, but rather becomes a spokesperson for for those that cannot currently speak for themselves. This has been now a life commitment that Ive taken on as myself, standing within a group that is inclusive for all that is willing to walk in Equality to establish in a physical reality what we always dreamed of as Heaven on Earth. We require to dream no more, we have discovered it is a matter of willing ourselves to live by a principle, to burst our bubbles of self-deception and self-indulgence to then start walking along with others in equality and becoming the change that we want to see in this world. We have stopped pointing fingers
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at others to instead take Self Responsibility for this world and our entire history of mankind which has been only a series of life-negligence that we are here to stop and correct for the rest of our existence. This is IT this is the actual grace that we can give ourselves for the first time in our existence and for that, I could not allow myself to overlook this opportunity to finally do what I sought my entire life: changing the world and for that, I had to begin with myself and walk with others doing the same. Desteni is the single most outrageous bunch of people that youll find in this planet, Im grateful to walk along with humans that care enough for themselves to become a point of support in this world until we are able to stand as equals in fact and finally establish the reality we had only had wild dreams about. We are here, we are walking it join us in walking the talk of our reality in Equality. I am here walking a process of self support shared and walked with anyone else that is willing themselves to do the same, to live and walk a process of self perfection to dignify ourselves as life and the life of everyone on Earth. I am devoted to live and create a system that is able to support all beings in equality. Walk with us, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Marlen Vargas Del Razo is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/44

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SANDY JONES MACGILLIVRAY

http://sandymacgillivray.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/2012-why-i-could-hear-the-desteni-message/

21 January 2012 There are two main reasons why I could hear the Desteni message. First, there were many things I suppressed from childhood and young adulthood that Desteni spoke about in a common sense way that I found to be validating and awakened my, long since abandoned, sense of self-trust. Why do we blatantly ignore the suffering and death of so many millions of helpless children and obviously vulnerable people in our world? Why do we not change our systems of economy and distribution of food and goods and services so this is corrected? Why do we throw our hands in the air and say it is impossible to feed/ take care of each other as one family? Why do people get pissed off when I try to talk about it? Why do we not see the evil of capitalism? Why do we spend trillions of dollars on an arms race that can never be won? Why is God unfair? Why do we die? Why is it not right to question God? Does God want children born with cerebral palsy? Why should I think/accept this is a loving God? Whos God is right? Why dont the people who live with extreme abundance share with others the have nothing and say one should learn and earn, yet they pass down this wealth from generation to generation-through a bull shit excuse called birthright? Why dont we change the rules to what is best for all ? I could go on and on and on. Desteni does not manipulate and discuss these and several other issues with a silver tongue or kid gloves, neither in self interest. This group tackles these difficult issue head on, no mincing of words. I appreciated that right away and felt empowered because I wanted answers to the devastation I saw in my world. Desteni does not offer information without a solution, I appreciated that too. Desteni advocates for an Equal Money System to be implemented in our world. Equality, real equality. Ok, I thought, Ill keep reading and listening to these video interviews. Some of the interviews were done through a portal. The reason I had no problem with the portal, after I watched a few and accepted they were valid, is my second reason I could hear the Desteni message, which I will discuss shortly. I watched the Jesus interviews and Audrey Hepburn interviews first. I have not reviewed them for awhile but what sticks with me is they were both consistent with the main message. They
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both spoke about self responsibility and that human beings had missed the mark regarding what is important in life-we have life upside down. Basically, that each person is responsible for the mess we have created here on earth, as a whole, and that each and every one must face themselves, see/be aware of self, apply self forgiveness and walk the self corrective path in each moment of each breath, if we are to make the changes necessary to survive. Jesus said we are all the same, including himself, although he came to earth with a knowing and understanding and seeing ability that we do not have, at this time . Unfortunately, his simple message of love they neighbor as thyself and do unto others as you would have them do unto you has not been heeded. Now that all made sense to me. Audrey Hepburn drove home for me that, I too, am guilty, by participation and acceptance, of all the worlds current problems. I wanted to point fingers, still do, and blame and hate and be angry but as I learn to stand as one as all as equal this does not make sense and must be stopped, within myself first, that is my responsibility. The second reason I listened to Desteni was I had experienced problems with my mind. I had experienced/heard voices in my head and listened to them until I was quite insane. I could not sleep and was barely able to function. I medicated myself with alcohol but then became an alcoholic. These voices seemed to know things that were impossible and predicted things that quickly came true, several unexplainable things occurred to me over the years, the voices/communication terrified me at night so I also took sleep medication. I was able to pull my self back together over a number of years so I was, once again, a fully functional human being but subsequently questioned the sanity of believing in/worshiping/trusting a creator that could produce such a fuck up. It was not that difficult to become broken after all, it was not such extreme behavior that led to my sickness. I had obsessed, gone into, delved into my mind too deeply is all. Not suggesting that is the proper thing to do, of course it is not, but I thought no wonder so many people are mentally ill! And so many people sadly kill themselves when hearing voices. So tragic and unecessary. I stopped the voices by simply stopping my mind=I did not listen to thoughts! The booze helped tremendously ( sober 8 years now) and then belief in a higher power=spiritualism but mostly I did not listen to my mind and engage in the act of thinking and it literally stopped the insanity. This occurred slowly over several years. But then, the question, what and why had this happened to me? I never went the medical-traditional route. They have little understanding of the mind. Thank god I didnt. I would have been labled schizophrenic and given pills. I understand I self medicated. And Im sure years of therapy with people who do not know about the mind! They would try to figure it out my mind/the mind. I would have felt humiliated and less than.
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Desteni has make me realize I am whole now, I need not ascend any spiritual steps, I need not listen to or figure out my mind. So when I found the Desteni site I soon discovered they spoke about and explained the mind! What a huge relief to me to find out I wasnt crazy and wasnt broken or I hadnt crossed some spiritual line that was sacred. I was completely validated in that the mind is a program and everything in existence is in me already. Desteni has shown me that I had accessed -by mistake- thoughts that have been programmed into me and that it is not my fault but it is my responsibility to stop the mind as it is not life and is in fact what has caused all the fuck ups in this world through participating in thoughts, feelings and emotions. I do not need to be a slave to my personality or my pre-programmed life, that is not who I am. I am life here in this moment of breath and I am learning to live this way. It is a process that is challenging but giving my life meaning beyond anything I ever imagined. I am becoming free of what I thought I was slave to: society, religion, being a woman in a mans world, feeling alone in what I considered an insane world, fear of death, fear of poverty-or more accurately being middle class slave, addiction, fear of standing up/speaking up, fear of life, fear of myself-not being able to trust myself . I trust myself more and more. Desteni has given me this, invaluable! Thank you Desteni. I stand with you. I am one vote for an Equal Money System and World Equality!

Sandy Jones is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/132

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WILLIAM CUFF
http://transmutation-process.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

21 Janurary 2012 I was brought to church on Sundays as a kid and went to some religious camps, so I started off with the basic religious program in my head. When I was around the age of 8, I asked myself a question, What do you want to do in life?. So I thought about it for a few seconds, and replied to myself I want to help people. I remember hearing a voice in my head saying You are just like Jesus. I shook my head and said no, no way. I see now that I feared myself and could not trust myself. Somehow I was worried that if I were equal to Jesus, I might allow myself to fall into greed and ego. I was also worried about how I would have to express myself, I didnt want to look funny in front of people or stand out. As a child, I often reflecting to myself, my inner thoughts. I recall one summer lying on the grass, just staring at the sky for a long time. Why was the world so fake? And why was everyone acting like everything is OK when it was clearly not? This struck a chord in me which laid the foundation for a distrusting attitude in my teens. No way was I going to trust a system that did not address this core issue that was in myself, even though I did not yet have the answers, I knew what I was experiencing was in many ways, not real. I longed for realness inside myself, but I did not know how to get it. A profound experience I recall in my teens, was during a hard rock concert. I remember seeing all these cool people, they were all so interesting, i wanted to talk and share with them all. Many were just like me. And then I felt this overwhelming sadness. I was realizing that, this moment we were all experiencing, would just pass away..? I couldnt explain it, yet it was there, clear as ever. Why is it like this? I thought to myself in an attempt to understand. I experienced a car accident when I was around 19. We were all drinking, and I flew out the back of a pickup when the driver hit a wall. I had smashed my head and was knocked unconscious. When I came to, my brother was in front of me holding my hand with a police officer was behind him swinging a flashlight. I became quite scared at this point, and asked my other friend to hold my hand as well. I thought maybe I was dying. Maybe this was it, just like that. Im not ready, I repeated to myself in fear.
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I spent the night in the hospital and was released the next day with some stitches in my face. Like a big reality check, this was the wake up call I needed. I could have easily been killed. Experiences such as this can really help open ones eyes. I looked at myself differently after this, now I had to understand what was my responsibility here in this life. And having a religious upbringing, I figured I would find out what god wanted from me. I decided to read the bible, and a certain verse convicted me of my double-mindedness. I was living two separate personalities I saw within myself. I felt absolutely terrible about this, I knew I wasnt being real with myself, so I immediately became a zealous christian after that. A few years after being Christian, I was told by someone, and confirmed by others that I was very close to god, which I naively believed. It was an interesting experience, thinking you are a god lol. I imagine there are many others who fall for that as well. But it really did give me insights into myself that I would not have otherwise had. I became less afraid of god, and was able to question things about him and different religions and things like aliens etc. Through this I practiced Buddhism and spent quite a few years studying many other mystical teachings, trying to get all the answers while waiting for heaven to arrive. It was then that I found the Desteni videos on the History of Mankind. I was immediately captivated. How the **** did this young girl know all this **** that I had been studying for years, and I didnt even have the answers to this stuff yet!?? I was a little pissed yes, but, I was far more intrigued. She had ALL the answers to EVERYTHING. And it all fit PERFECTLY in a perfect picture puzzle. I watched videos sometimes 8 hours or more a day. I couldnt get enough. It was around 2 weeks that I was listening to the parts where Anu was being described. Because I had such a close relationship with god, I could see how he was deliberately lying to everyone. And sadly, I had accepted that, fearing for my own ass. Suddenly, it hit me... I realized, wow... if he is lying to everyone else then.... zomg! I felt like such an idiot. But, not much I could do but say wow like a hundred times. Shortly thereafter I went out and deliberately committed a whole bunch of sins hahahaaa. But the main realization that I had was the fact that, I could be EQUAL to people. This was such a huge relief to me, this is what I always wanted, where everyone is accepted and considered equally, smallest to the highest, a TOTAL DREAM COME TRUE! This was me, for real.
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So within my experience, I can see how I put the pieces of the puzzle together throughout my life in asking questions of myself and getting some answers for myself. The bottom line for me was that I wanted the truth from a young age, and I was willing to sacrifice myself to get it. The fears and hatred for the way our world exists helped push me along. I gave up a lot of things for my realization, but Im eternally grateful that I did, and I would not trade it for anything. People can have all their money and greed and delusion, its not gonna last. And then what will they do when they have no choice but to face themselves as who they really are? Not going to be a pretty sight... until we learn to stand as equals in every way, rough road ahead for everyone. Study Desteni people, you will be glad you did... and that is an indescribably, huge understatement. William Cuff is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/113

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ANN VAN DEN BROECK

http://beneath-the-rose.blogspot.com/2012/02/message-of-desteni-message-for-everyone.html

09 February 2012 It was 2007, a normal afternoon, and I was watching videos on YouTube. I do not really remember what I was looking for, all I know is that I started to post my own videos on YouTube and started to click on other peoples videos that caught my attention. I saw a little thumbnail image with a title about 2012 above it. I was interested in many things, including 2012, so I clicked. The video started with what I thought was a 12 year old little boy, breathing in deeply and then starting to speak. I first thought it was a little kid and his friends having fun together, but I kept on listening out of curiosity. And the more words I heard coming out of the persons mouth, the more I was impressed with the common sense of it. It was about that 2012, nothing will change and that we have to be the change in all moments not depending on any date or prediction. There was a link to this desteni website, which I had no clue about what it was, but I decided to go there and introduce myself. Because I am pretty fast in introducing myself and jumping into discussions online, because I was always interested in finding out more. I had been searching for the truth for a long time, and felt out of place in this world. I used to look out of the window to the stars and cry because I felt like my life was not on this planet, but somewhere on another planet. Like I was feeling homesick. Also I was depressed a lot about the state of the world, and about who I had become, about my own imperfections, my frustrations, my vanity, my self pity... I had no clue what to do about the world, because all I wanted was for all the abuse to end. But all I saw was hate, and thousands of believes battling against each other, and people going into fake relationships and only caring about sex, animal abuse, poverty and starvation etc... Thinking about it every single day made me ill. On the desteni forum I found all kinds of topics about these issues, and that really sparked my curiosity. I wanted to find out everything they had to say about it. Not that I was going to believe it, but I was open for it, because I dont know everything. The messages often came back to a common sense point that requires no believe what so ever. It only requires you to be self-honest and face yourself in brutal honesty. And I like that. I started to learn how

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to be honest to myself without hurting myself and going into depression. To face my own issues and to overcome them, to not let them affect or influence me, and to stop the patterns programmed within me. I learned to overcome my fears about my self-image and others. Because if we do not change the things within our selves that cause friction on a large scale, problems will keep arising, inequality will keep arising. So I found it very important to do this, for myself and for everything else. Because the desteni message was also focused on changing the world situations, which was exactly what I wanted. And we have compiled this into a FAQ about the Equal money system that is very handy for people who are just getting to know it. Right now it is 2012 and I have not been depressed in years, I have faced some of the most difficult fears that I had, and the desteni message is stronger than ever. We are growing and launching various projects to be able to have more impact. One of them is publishing our writing, to bring in funds that can move us forward within this system to change it. One cool read is the : Slowly but surely more people hear the message and join in, so that we together can move forward. And we will never stop, because we do not depend on hope or a feeling to move us. And we stand together to bring about a new system, the Equal Money system, to have a foundation of equality for all beings on Earth. This is our work in progress, which everyone can join who is willing. Ann Van den Broeck is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/64

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ANDREW GABLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjmgGigo9js

30 January 2012

Discussing the beginning of my process when I first found Desteni and what were some of the points and aspects that stood out to me with regards to why I found the message to ring true Andrew Gable is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/59

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KIM KLINE
http://thrubreath.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

27 January 2012 Im actually very surprised that I was able to hear the Desteni message with such an immediate acceptance and understanding. I am surprised because before Desteni, not only did I have no beliefs in any form of religion, spirituality or supernatural phenomena, but I thought those who did were crazy. I felt most things could be pretty well explained in a reasonable and logical way, and those things that couldnt were too few to count and were just freak occurrences or anomalies. But these freak occurrences and anomalies intrigued me, because if reality was the way I believed it to be- then they shouldnt occur at all. So a part of me remained open to the possible existence of something more, and my intrigue led me to investigate the unexplainable, because it was messing with my worldview. I tried really hard to believe in something spiritual, something occult, or something more, but every attempt I made just proved to me that it was all a sham. A couple experiences I can remember are playing Ouija with some friends. I just knew one of them was pushing the little thingie to spell out the name of another of mine friend whose father had just passed away. That friend was convinced that it was real and she got really scared. Another time a friend of mine convinced me to go to a psychic because he had gone and had been convinced that she was reading his present and future situation. He even told me that she said stuff about me, so I went. I didnt tell the psychic that my friend had just gone the day before and the she had told him things about me and our future together. She read my palm and told me an entirely different story, and nothing was accurate and I left feeling mostly just ripped off. Experiences such as these showed me how easily people can develop beliefs and be misled by others, so I developed a skepticism about such things. In terms of religion- I went to church when I was younger, but at that age I was very shy. I was picked on at school and I had very bad experiences with teachers. I found my place with animals and in nature- things which, to me, were real and filled with what I experienced as love, acceptance, understanding, joy, fun, excitement- everything worth living for. I found
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the human world devoid of these things and actually rather hostile. I found the teachings of Jesus and gods supposed creation in nature and the animals and not in people, but at church these things were not given any significance or any attention whatsoever. Also, religion was so boring- how could it be the explanation of existence- which is full of wonder and mystery? This is of course from a childs perspective. But later on I saw movies about brutal missionaries, I learned about what the catholics did to the aboriginal people in my own country, and I learned about wars in the name of religion. To me it was just more people believing in something thats not real, and people just being really mean and shitty towards each other, just like people were mean and shitty towards me. But I didnt experience anger and hate towards these people like god apparently did when he would send them to hell. No one deserves that. So I just couldnt possibly relate to any of it, and nothing made sense. I was never actually exposed to any spirituality. I met self-proclaimed spiritual people along the way, they always seemed happy. Too happy. My experience of the world was confusing and scary, yet they seemed to have it all figured out, and in a way that didnt include me. They were in their own little bubbles. Again- I felt they were believing in something by choice, and not because it was real, just as I had seen good friends of mine do, such as with the Ouija board and the psychic. I first started noticing something was wrong when I began observing the general disregard for animals and nature. When my family got our first dog we had to choose one from the hundreds of dogs at the shelter who were crying for help. I didnt understand how or why people allowed this to be this way. I was just a child, and I thought grown ups were supposed to know how to fix problems, and here was a huge and horrible problem, but everybody acted like it was normal. With regards to nature- I lived in a city, but my dad had built a cottage on a lake. It was like a dream come true for me to go there and spend time in the woods- mostly alone, but also with friends and family. I just loved exploring and discovering new animals like frogs and salamanders, and sometimes there would be animal tracks or carcasses and I could get a close up look at them. I couldnt understand how any person would design a city such as the one I lived in, without leaving any room for nature. And why people would spend all day in these big boring buildings with nothing to explore or discover. There were hardly any animals, and the ones that were around were hungry and scared. Id see them dead on the
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side of the road along with the garbage; Id see animals with mange, and no one to help them. At a young age I had travelled to Cuba and Belize with my family. I saw kids younger than me begging in the streets, and homeless starving dogs everywhere. When I got home I saw that the community I lived in was nice, but what about everything else I had become aware of? Where was god? Where was purpose? This was all before I became old enough to begin to see that I was actually living in the most privileged part of the world, and I began learning about poverty, factory farms, the leather industry, deforestation, water pollution, drag-net fishing- all of it just the tip of this never ending iceberg of horror. So this feeling of what the fuck is going on here just amplified. But I grew older and started becoming distracted by a social life and boys and I began drinking and experimenting with drugs. I started changing who I was so that I would be accepted into social groups and I started trying to forget about the bad stuff in the world. But within this I became very unhappy and full of stress and anxiety. I got married and moved from Canada to Vermont in the U.S. My husband and I lived in a poor area where people were on welfare. I had come from a middle class family and now I lived next to poverty and I began to see how close it was to home. My husband worked in government housing and he would tell me about the corruption he saw within the system. We were really broke during my process of immigration and I felt very disempowered and loaded with money stresses. Thats when I began to look for an answer. I decided this is it: I am open to anything. I am young, able-bodied, and ready to do something. I enrolled in the local community college and started taking classes in all subjects I thought could provide a solution. But everywhere I turned all I found was dysfunction. In environmental science I saw only partial solutions, leaving out huge problems. I saw green-solutions that were plagued with pathologies: green companies unable to compete with polluting and destructive corporations, local farming and farmers markets selling good healthy organic food that neither I nor any of my neighbors could afford, and an alternative energy sector that was a patchwork of under-funding and unaffordable technology. In psychology I found no cures, pharmaceutical companies on a rampage, and no jobs for a girl like me who could only afford a BA at a community college. I saw kids from rich families going to the big universities in my neighborhood- $40 000 a year for the program I would have chosen to attend at the University of Vermont. How could I expect to compete with that? On top of that, I found dysfunction within myself as well. As I tried to develop a social life I
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realized that I was unable to relate to those around me, and I was also uncomfortable with who I had become as a personality and I had social anxiety. When I got my green card I gave up on school and began to look for a solution in my working life. I worked at a green restaurant and at a seniors residence with the idea that I could become a nurse and at least help some people- maybe get some skills that would further me somehow. But all I got was minimum wage, and my husband and I worked full-time just to keep our heads above water. Rent was expensive, we had some debt, our car was breaking down, bills kept getting higher but our pay stayed the same. We were slaves to the system. Our big break came when Toyota had a recall on the Tacoma model truck, which we ownedthey had faulty frames that collected salt from the roads which would rust them right through. Trucks began snapping in half mid-drive, sometimes cutting the break lines. We got 150% of the Kelly Blue Book value for our truck that was barely running. We would have had to pay someone to take it off our hands, but instead we got 9000$ for it. We got a new car and we got the hell out of Vermont. We moved to Maine and thats where I discovered Desteni three years ago. I cant remember the first video I saw, but I remember it spoke to the fact that I, as an individual, had the power to change, not only myself- but the world. I learned that I would have to work within a group and deal with my own dysfunction to do so. I watched videos and I read the writings of people who were applying self-forgiveness. They were using this tool along with some others to change themselves and overcome things like social anxiety and depression. When I read their writing it was like I had written it myself, their problems and issues were just like mine, but they were overcoming them! They werent asking me for money, and they werent asking me to believe in something religious or spiritual, they werent asking me to believe anything. They were presenting me with a way to empower myself and actually stand up and voice myself, and to speak about the problems I had been observing my whole life. Desteni explained everything: about how greed and self-interest cause the problems we see today, about how money controls everything, about how humans distract themselves with religion, spirituality and other beliefs so as not to have to face themselves and the world. How the mind creates habits and patterns that trap us and bring us down to that point of giving up. How Life is actually Here with us, but we are too busy in our minds to see it or even realize it within ourselves. But Desteni didnt only point out the problems- the problems are blatantly
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obvious once you just open your eyes. What is different about Desteni is that it offers tools anyone can use to take back control of our lives, to take the wheel and direct our world to where we want it to be. So thats what I did. I began writing self-forgiveness, investigating the material like crazy, and after a year I finally built up the courage to participate on the forums. I got support there from those who had been applying the tools already. I received support that I could actually apply in my Life. I did the work, I created space within me, I got better at moving myself instead of losing myself in my mind of anxiety, fear, stress and insecurity, and I got real. I got my drivers license which gave me more independence, I began taking responsibility for myself within my relationships. I shaved my head, I started making some videos and writing and becoming visible and public with my process and I am still working at that. The biggest challenged I faced has been going back to school. Desteni taught me to fearlessly utilize whatever resources I had available to further myself and become more stable and effective within the system instead of just being a slave. So I applied for a university back in my home town where the school is cheaper but has a better reputation. Its cheaper because its back in Canada, so I moved back. Now my husband and I live far apart while I get my degree in politics. Im doing very well at school and Im working my ass off for it. Im still very new in my process and Im pushing myself more than I ever thought possible. Ive become so comfortable speaking up that I have to now keep my mouth shut in class sometimes because I talk too much! I am at complete ease in social situations and I actually look forward to seeing old friends, hanging out with my husbands friends and meeting new people. I stopped drinking and smoking pot about a year ago, and Im much better at staying on top of keeping my shit together so to speak- in terms of money, responsibilities and just staying calm about everything and directing myself instead of reacting to things. Ive definitely got a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go, I have a LOT of things on my list to change about myself: I still have anxiety and stress, it just doesnt stop me anymore. Im working on that stuff still, and theres room for improvement, in fact, thats the biggest room there is. But I no more feel as if the world is just a confusing mess with no solution. I have been spending my whole Life trying to work towards a solution and an understanding and only ever hitting dead ends. Desteni has taught me that walls are made to walk through, so thats what Im going to do while I continue to work towards a solution: the Equal Money System. Only the path towards this solution is one of self-realization, selfexpansion and self-empowerment, so Im actually getting back so much more than I am
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giving to help realize this new economic system. Id like to change that to an equation of equality, by further empowering myself to be able to do more for the Equal Money Solution, because why would I do anything else? Kimberly Kline is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/170

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BLA CEGNAR
http://blazprocess.blogspot.com/2012/01/2012-why-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni.html

27 January 2012 Before I heard about Desteni I was a doubtful person, I didnt just believe something because someone said so. I always tried to look at the bigger picture, to look behind the scene, trying to figure out what is really going on. I didnt like myself the way I was, I had no selfcertainty and was afraid of lots of things, mostly people. I tried to look at myself to see who I really am, because I had no idea. I saw that I am afraid of things, that I dont understand myself and that somehow I cant control myself, my feelings, emotions, fears. This was really strange to me. I saw the ridiculousness of how people complicate each others lives and I was angry at myself because I didnt know what to do to make things better neither for myself or others. But I had a strong desire to do something, to find out once and for all what the fuck is wrong with us people, who is in control, why is everything so fucked up? Why cant we people just consider this reality and work together to live in harmony? Why does everyone seem just so goddamn corrupt and evil? How can people live and not openly ask these question? There has to be someone that sees what I see, that doesnt just accept this reality as something normal. Someone has to do something for fuck sake! Even if no one else wants to, I will do something. I dont know what exactly or how, but I have to do something. I will not just accept this world the way it is because it is just too fucking messed up! Then I came across Desteni videos on YouTube and I started watching them, listening. I didnt care about the Portal or who it is that is talking. It was all just a bit weird at first and as I realized that there is no fucking way for me to know and be sure if someone is making a prank or not, I realized that all I can do is listen carefully to what is being said and see if it makes any sense. And the more I listened the more sense it made. There was a lot of things I already observed and realized about the world or in myself before. Other things that were new (like stopping the mind with self-aware breathing or self-forgiveness) I tried out and became aware of as it was pointed out to me in the videos and the Desteni message. I was amazed how insightful the information was and the pure size of it was unbelievable. I spent at least three months just watching, reading, listening and there was still more. I have never seen so much useful common sense in one place anywhere else, ever. And
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I was able to test it out for myself and prove it to myself. There were also a lot of shared stories that werent really relevant at that time, but they helped me a lot as I wanted to understand the background of Desteni, how it all came together and how it all manifested into this one point, the Desteni group. There is no need whatsoever for one to believe that the stories about Desteni or the History of Mankind or History of the Universe are true, because none of them are really relevant. The relevant tools and principles are those that we can test ourselves and live ourselves right now in this moment. With the tools of selfhonesty, self-forgiveness and self-corrective application we are able to manifest heaven on Earth for everyone Equally and this is truly amazing. Nonetheless, the stories assisted me a lot as I always wanted to understand why and how the hell does everything exist exactly the way it does. It is great to finally know. But does it matter? Not at all. Matter is the only thing that matters. And currently, it is still fucked up, just the way we made it. Now it is time to take self-responsibility and make this world the way that is Best for All. Before all of this, my discovery and involvement in Desteni, I often had a feeling that something great and powerful will happen in my lifetime. Something that will change things dramatically. So, I was always open for new things, I was always looking for that special event that will make a great impact on what it means to be alive. The more I came to understand what Desteni is all about, the more sure I was that this is what Ive been waiting for. It was all much more exciting and groundbreaking that I could ever imagine. And I explored lots of things: UFOs, conspiracies, ends of the world, revolutionary technologies, revelations... I was certain that something great will happen on one of these topics, but I was wrong. It happened all at once! Desteni for me at that time represented a great revelation: the end of deception, the end of bullshit and suffering, the end of corruption, the end of control and suppression, the end of hate. And now I am grateful to be able to participate in this birthing of Life from the physical for the first time in existence, to have a chance to learn, to change myself and to forgive myself for all that was, so that I can birth myself as Life and stand for Life with others that care, in oneness and equality. To do what is Best for All Life in practicality, to learn to direct myself and say out loud: I stand for a Dignified Life for All! This is who I am and this is who I want to be! Desteni helps me to be and make out of myself the best possible being I can be. There is absolutely no other thing or person in the whole world that would ever be able to help me as much as Desteni did by showing me how I can uplift myself (by myself!) as a living being into a self-honest, self-responsible and self-directive human being that cares for All Life Equally and truly does what is practically Best for All. And Desteni is just a word. But what I have realized and learned and how I changed myself
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by participating in the group, this changed me forever and it truly made me a better human being and I am continuously improving myself to always stand for Life in Equality and do what is practically Best for All. In the beginning I said that before I found Desteni I was a doubtful person. Maybe it would seem to someone that I am not anymore, but this would only show that one doesnt understand at all what I have learned as a Destonian. Through participating in Desteni I actually learned what it really means to questions and reconsider myself, my principles and the way we accept and allow this world to exist. And I am still learning what it means to be a responsible human being and how to actually always stand in self-honesty and do what is Best for All. This is a process that takes time and I am grateful that I can be a part of it. Why was I able to hear the Desteni message? You still dont know what it is? It is simply to understand that we are all equally responsible for everything that exists here and thus we have to be self-honest and correct self through self-forgiveness and learn to work together as one to stop all the abuse of Life and create what is Best for All: Heaven on Earth for All Equally. We have all the practical tools needed to do so, we just have to start doing by having the right starting point: what is practically Best for All Life in Oneness and Equality. Why can I hear and understand this and so many others cannot or do not want to? Are you willing to change yourself into a self-honest, self-responsible living being that does what is Best for All and helps with what needs to be done to make heaven on Earth for everyone equally? If you are not, then look at yourself in self-honesty and understand what is the reason that prevents you from standing up for All Life Equally and change yourself accordingly. All the reasons you will find I have overcome, because I realized that egosim is just an illusion. I understand that what is Best for All is also best for myself and so, egoism can always be best just for one ego which then leads into the abuse of Life. I never wanted to accept any abuse of Life and never will. This is how I was able to hear the Desteni message. Bla Cegnar is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/30

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JOHNATHAN MOTZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZC8pJEOUxk

22 January 2012

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ANDREA ROSSOUW
http://andrearossouw.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/2012-why-i-could-hear-the-desteni-message/

25 January 2012 When I met Bernard and Sunette I was completely bowled over firstly by their ability to communicate with the afterlife and investigate the dimensional existence for themselves. No-one and no new age group could do this and for the first time in my life I realized that I was facing a truth about our reality which finally could be voiced the truth that we are responsible for this mess we have created and individually we are responsible for what exists inside of us. This message has been received differently by different people depending on your starting point. If you still want someone else sitting in the sky to watch over you and tell you what to do and save your but for you on rapture day then no the Desteni message does not go down well. If you are the kind of person like myself and other Destonians who have had enough of the idea of gods, religions, spirituality, hope and living in fear of ourselves then the Desteni message is like a breath of relief. Not meaning that it is a n easy path to walk many of us have had to end relationships with friends and family, simply because of the fact that we stand for the end of all abuse on this planet, while most people are quite content turning a blind eye. When someone speaks of how to change the world, not just we need to change the world and you touch on the individual choices of people then you are bound to make enemies. But it does not matter as Destonians we are not in it to please people we are in it to make a change happen for all the billions of beings who suffer each day within our current world system. So when I firstly listened to Bernard speak about what was happening inside of me I was relieved to finally get direction with regards to what I had to self forgive and face with regards to my depression and self abuse tendencies in life. It was not easy because one you have become that personality, it is difficult to stop the personality. But I realized that I could not carry on the way I was, and therefore I stuck to the tools of writing, introspection and self forgiveness suggested to me. Then It was a matter of changing myself physically as what I allowed, what I spoke and how I moved myself to no longer accept old patterns of self -abuse in all their subtle and not so subtle forms.
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It took many discussions of many hours with Sunette and Bernard to see and realize the extent to which I had created my own Mind and how I was sabotaging myself to not live fully. So, each step of the way as the information was shown to me I could look inside of myself and actually see for myself how I had created me, therefore as the information was shown to me, it was never a matter of me not understanding what was being said. Each step of the way I could see and understand how I had designed me, what Bernard and Sunette did were merely facilitate the process of pointing out to me that which I could not yet see or refused to see or could see but had never paid any attention to. Slowly but surely one and equal I started seeing what they were seeing simply through being self honest and of course by checking where and how in my life I had designed the patterns they were pointing out to me. The key is always self honesty one is always able to look inside yourself and see who you are and what you live so with Desteni one is always the directive principle based on your self honesty. So my journey with Desteni was that finally things were being shown to me which would allow me once and for all to change me to let go of my pre-programmed design of the depressed Goth chick and actually just live here in my physical body. To add to that, I also knew that something was wrong with the world. So once it was shown to me how the world systems actually functions and how to stop abuse in this world I could see for myself that the solutions to the world are there if only we are willing to change ourselves as the cause of the problem and then the world systems through which the abuse is implemented. Desteni for me has since the beginning been a clear directive journey in realizing simplistically who I had become and what I needed to self forgive and let go to not longer be that. If it was necessary for me to walk the time line of how I created a point then I would do so but basically my entire life was there as my memories for me to go and work with nothing was mystical or hidden and beyond my understanding. Next point was the world Desteni presented common sense in relation to the world because yet again nothing was mystified and frilled up. Simplistically I was shown mathematically how abuse is created and how we are participate in the abuse and what mathematical system is required for all abuse to stop simplistic. That in itself in the key to Desteni work with the actuality of reality and sort reality out according to what would be best for all.

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MAYA HAREL
http://harelmaya.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/2012-why-i-could-hear-the-desteni-message/

30 January 2012 The first Desteni Video I watched was about the Autistic children as part of research I was conducting. The first impression was: How can a 14 years old boy possibly know all those things about the Autistic children? There must be something worth looking at because this kid is unique. I went to see the origin of this specific video and I found the Desteni Website. However, there was so much content in it that I left it, justifying the English barrier as my excuse to not do proper investigation. Though, I kept going to the Autistic video time after time, trying to figure out what the kid is speaking about. During my Spiritual process, I came across many channelers and all of them told me how special I am and how my reason/purpose of coming back to earth as a human being is part of the Big Plan, and that I have a great role in the change that is about to take place on earth. Thus, I was looking at ways that I can fulfill my mission on earth which led me to believe that Im going to save the world if only I could communicate with Autistic children as well as my guides/higher-beings/Angels. I started taking channeling classes. I was sure that when I would be able to channel, I would be easily supported by my guides/higher-beings/Angels and Kryon from the magnetic service, as well as finding a way to communicate with the Autistic children so that they would be able to show me the path to save myself and my world, as part of my mission on earth. Back then, I was so convinced that my beliefs are the ultimate truth; if I would have met a Destonian who would have said that none of the spiritual beliefs I hold are true, I would have ignore the person completely and define the person as negative. Fascinatingly enough, the cracks of my spiritual beliefs started to show within the channeling class where I forced myself to trust the messages that I picked up, yet alone knowing inside me that nothing of it is real but my own creation of the mind; although, I didnt realize the extent of the mind possession of and as the desire of fulfilling my task on earth. Now, when Im looking back within self honesty, it is clear to me that the desire to fulfill my task is but the tip of the iceberg. What was really busy manifesting is the desire, want and need to feel
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validated, worthy, special and valued in total separation of me, through seeking for external forces to approve my existence so to speak. And so, in my journey of seeking external forces to validate and direct me, I had the tendency to follow those which I defined as more spiritual than me and specifically the ones who have access to the dimensions with the ability to channel. One day, my channeling teacher approached me and asked me to join him and his business partner on the weekend, to assist them with a spiritual brain storming process they were busy with. Obviously, I wouldnt miss such a chance to have free access to channeling and I joined them for the weekend. On the second night, the teacher shared with me that he is part of a group that is working towards enlightenment and asked if I want to meet them. I had some doubts but decided to check it out and see whether or not I can relate to them. I couldnt relate much to their Guru but I stuck around for 3 weeks because the knowledge and information that they shared with me was quite interesting and even overwhelming if you will. I was exposed to some conspiracies which I never gave it attention before and that assisted and supported me in taking the step of opening my eyes to see what is really going-on on earth, right under our nose. After 3 weeks, I decided to leave this group because I couldnt relate to the way they chose to live their life, but the point I was certain of was that a group is required to be established from the starting point of assisting and supporting self in the process of realizing who we really are. And so, I started communicating with new people, seeking for people like me that understand the importance of walking as a group but it didnt work out. One night, I met 2 guys and during the conversation one of them said something about Kryon being a gate keeper and that there is a girl on YouTube that explain about it. Till this day, I cant recall what made me see in one moment that Kryon was not as real as I thought he was and that there is something really fishy going on in the spiritual world of mine. When this guy was talking about the girl from YouTube, I knew he was talking about the same being from the Autistic video I was watching a few months back and I decided to push the resistance and excuses that I made and actually investigate Desteni. I went home and opened the Desteni website. I watched the video History of Mankind part 45- Kryon Exposed and decided to watch the History of ManKind from the beginning to have better context and understanding. After watching a few videos, Ive decided to clear up my weekend, watch some more videos and meditate. Understand that at that time, I was still very much into the spirituality world
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and I wasnt completely sure what was the point with Kryon that Ive started seeing the night before. When I started meditating that day, I was pissed off; I was angry and frustrated for not being able to get a clear and direct message from neither Kryon nor my Guides/Higher-self/angels. I couldnt understand why I wasnt able to channel because from my perspective, I was doing all the right things I wasnt smoking, I didnt do drugs, I didnt eat meat, I practiced meditation; so why is it that Im not getting a clear and direct messages?! Then a point came up from a book I read a few months before The Journey of the Soul which describes the process from the moment a person dies and the soul moves out of ones body, until the soul is incarnated again to a new body. The book describes all the phased the soul is walking in its enlightenment process but until that moment, I didnt question the extent of separation that exists in the hereafter and something clicked. I was finally able to see for myself that the spiritual world doesnt make sense and the Oneness that is being pushed wasnt really so, because when separation exists, oneness cannot exists in any way whatsoever; and so, I was ready now to hear the Desteni message from that perspective. For myself, the readiness to hear the Desteni message came after a long spiritual journey in complete blindness and no critical thinking. You see, most of my life, I was walking the ordinary path; great family, lots of friend, good education, good job. The experience of this path I was walking was of boredom and that led me to seek for another ways to live life which then I found spirituality. I was sure that I found the right path because whenever I looked, the message was always positive and why wouldnt I want for myself only positive things? When I found all that positivity, I didnt want to question it and see the entire picture of this entire existence because if I would have done so, it would mean that I had to let go of the positivity experience that I was aiming for the Bliss. This is why hearing the Desteni message is difficult for so many human beings because the message implies that we will have to let go of that which we define as positive. However, when one realizes the Equality Equation of that which is best for all, one can see for oneself that what we are letting go of, was never actually real. It was a self-created experience which was based on a desire that we have taught to believe in and within that, we have absolutely separated ourselves from ourselves and our world and manifested consequences in the form of this abusive world that we are currently live in and exists as. Yes, the Desteni message isnt something that is easy to hear because we have never considered a Life that is best for all; throughout our lives, we have been taught how to take
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care of only our closest environment, perceiving and believing that whatever is happening in the world does not affect us or concern us. We have taught ourselves to believe that nothing can actually change and we are powerless to actually stand up and force any form of change. What are we actually doing in Desteni and what the message assist with is to educate ourselves, not only within our internal world of ourselves as the mind, but also within our external world as the world system. It is about time that we get to know how the world system works and what are the forces that busy directing our very own existence. So get yourself ready to hear the Desteni message. Question your beliefs, your knowledge, your ideas and opinions. Take notes of your resistances that come up in your process of investigating Desteni and have a look at how is it that you have those reactions; because what does the resistance really imply? That weve programmed ourselves to defend what we have taught ourselves to believe. Doesnt that very thing show us how limited we really are? Thus, Breathe, see the common sense in the words that we speak and educate yourself because obviously, the world cannot continue the way it is. Thank you.

Maya Harel is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/21

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GARBRIELLE GOODROW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Ns1Z1wpN0

26 January 2012

Discussing here my walk before finding desteni, and how I walk within and as the principles of oneness and equality and the tools of self forgiveness, self honesty, and self correction within what is being shared thru and as all the beings participating. Its been a cool journey and I am glad I am here. Garbrielle Goodrow is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/56

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JEANNE KENNEY
http://mindstop.multiply.com/journal/item/89/How_I_Came_to_Hear_the_Desteni_Message

28 January 2012

When I first came upon the Desteni material I was not looking for a philosophy, religion or a new belief system. I was not looking for a group. I didnt want to belong to anything. In 2008, the last thing I wanted was a new system to follow and so I didnt. I watched and listened to the Desteni youtube channel. I heard the portal and listened to the History of Man and thought it fascinating and fantastical. I was thrilled to have so many of my assumptions challenged the Annunaki and mining gold, heaven operating like a corporation to ensure a steady stream of energy for fake gods, the elite placed purposely in this world to maintain this matrix of self interest, hope masquerading as spirituality and purpose while half the world starves! Stunning ideas. I asked myself, what if it is true and even if it isnt true, what difference does it make? In other words, even if the extraterrestrial story is too fantastic isnt living a process of equality assisting and supporting life as myself, here in this world, right now isnt that enough to shake all my assumptions of what it was to be spiritual? And it was. I continued to listen, keeping an open mind, not judging the material. I challenged myself to come up with an alternative to the equality equation. Did I have a real excuse as to why I was not doing everything I could to help everyone live in dignity? After a few months of trying on the ideas I began to question the real possibility that we may in fact, live in a pre-programmed reality. This working hypothesis was my starting point as a serious student of the Desteni material. ( Just to note: this required no allegiance, no joining of a group, no commitment to anyone...) And I asked myself: had anything, or anyone, ever fundamentally changed this world within the structure of religions, political movements and cultural ideas? Are we better off? Have we evolved at all?
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Could I ignore that despite thousands of years of human existence our spiritual traditions have only solidified our separation from each other and worse, these belief systems instead of providing a practical solution for humankind to live in decency, have instead created a class of so-called spiritual beings and social hierarchies that we have placed above ourselves and the earth; attributing these beings with special and superior positions ? Was this not, in fact, the principle cause of the suffering all around me? Heaven was a sham no matter how I sliced it. In this way I backed into the Desteni material. It didnt matter to me how this world had come to be, it was the fact that here finally someone was actually saying what I knew from my own experience to be true: that this world of abuse was unacceptable and we have to do something about it now. This realization did not require that I believe anything I had all the proof I needed to see we were not evolving; living the way we live. And so I kept listening. The idea that our identification with our minds is the root cause of our debasement made sense to me. The idea that we are responsible for what we have created through this total identification with mind made sense. The Buddhist perspective of attachment to self was a philosophy I had embraced for years; so it was familiar. What was different is that Desteni takes a radical departure from the Buddhist concept of attachment to ego. Buddhism (and for that matter, all religion) defers to gods and their heavenly intercession. It advises one to turn away from the world in compassion. It sets up the matrix of polarity; and then we are caught in the web of acceptance of this reality; even going so far as to believe that its here to HELP US GROW! Ascension, transcendence, enlightenment, nirvana: all these carrots of religions rewards have, in fact, created this hell on earth. Within the teachings of most spiritual traditions, the earth and her inhabitants are stepping-stones to immortality. A sugar coating is added in an attempt to deify the earth saying the earth is sacred too! But its a smoke screen: nobody really wants to rock the boat and create actually create heaven on earth. I came to see spirituality as the ultimate fuck you to what is actually occurring here in real time a fuck you to all the beings that need care-taking here. Spirituality and religion have the audacity to use their blowhard ceremonies to ramp up the feelings and emotions of true believers who are looking for a solution and they use energetic theatrics to make us feel like we are actually doing something worthwhile for the world! How ridiculous when I came to really examine it. Then I got angry!
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The message from the portal was stunning: heaven was sham, hierarchy was a sham and the idea of striving to a higher state of consciousness through meditation and prayer was the biggest load of bullshit ever proposed. Not only was it a lie, it was deliberately created in order to maintain a system of enslavement. What a mess. I am so grateful I found my way to Desteni. I am one vote for Equality for everyone that is Here not There. I am stepping up to the plate for those who have no plate; setting aside dreams of godhood to actually live as a god. What audacity! But is it? Isnt a god suppose to be benevolent to all? Wouldnt you agree that providing equality for all so everyone can live in dignity would be the first order of business of a god?

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JOAO JESUS
http://jjesusprocess.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

30 January 2012 Why I was able to hear the Desteni message: Simple: Even though I was raised a Christian, I never took it seriously... I mean it was just a story which, I realized, the only purpose was to control people by giving them some kind of moraityl and hope. Fortunately for me I didnt needed it because I was always well feed and sheltered thus no need for hope (I already had the dope) and the whole morality bullshit was pointless because the bugs I played with and my birds (and later on my dog) taught me much more than any book could ever do... Forgiveness through Jesus just didnt made any sense at all... I mean, come on I can do all the crap I want, lie, cheat, deceive, kill... murder! But then I can redeem myself by believing that God will forgive me if I believe that Jesus is the way... uuuuuuWHAT? And hell... oh well, that is very easy... If God is indeed all loving and if I am the same (his image and likeness) then I really need not to worry. I knew that if kept behaving as I was and I were to go to hell, then surely God would only have Jesus by his side in heaven because everyone else was in hell and for as long as I couldnt walk on water I would never have a real hope of meeting my creator... So, the God bullshit was out of the way. By the time that I found Desteni when I was 21 my concept of God had nothing to do with what is said in the Bible. To me God was ALL: I am God, you are God, this computer is God, the rain is God, the sun is God, my dog is God, etc... In other words, everything is the same, equal and one This universe is essentially the same thing
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expressed in different ways... yet, we humans, have fucked up things big time with beliefs and ideas which end up making us against each other and that is why we have wars, famine, child abuse, animals abuse, pollution... you name it! All the problems in this world are the result of us not realizing who we actually are as Equal One Thus we act as if we are separate, as if we are not from this earth, from this UNI-verse. At that time in 2007 I was well aware that I was far from being the best I could. I knew that I had to change. I knew that there was still a lot for me to learn to realize. In fact, that was how I found Desteni: I was doing research online for a small booklet I was compiling about my realizations in regards to the shithole we got ourselves into and how we could change things through simply realizing we are One and Equal and change ourselves accordingly. This booklet was primarily to share with friends and I did so with a few but later I realized that I ended up doing it for myself mostly, and that became a very prominent and defining part in my process of self-change / self-realization. So, as you can see, it is very easy to hear the Desteni message once one has enough courage to face oneself, get to some self honesty and realize that we are not the best we can be AND that we can change! Have the courage to really look in the mirror and see that all the crap inside us is just a reflection of a system that has conditioned us and filled us with fear. It is easy to hear the Desteni message once one has the courage to be humble enough to say I do not know everything, what I think and believe might just be a lie and I am willing to put it to the test. It is easy to hear the Desteni message once one truly has the slightest will to change the world... If you do not hear the message then you are not interested in changing the world at all you just want to prove your righteousness, you just want to remain the same and hope that the world will change, you just want to remain in your safe haven. It is easy to hear the Desteni message once you have the courage to forgive yourself for all the bullshit you have filled yourself with... once you have the courage to forgive yourself for all the stupid shit you have convinced yourself to be. It is easy to hear the Desteni message once you are no longer afraid of a book. It is easy to hear the Desteni message once you do indeed decide to be the image and likeness of God that, whatever that means, you will find out no matter what
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who you actually are, you will push yourself everyday to become a better version of yourself and though you might fall sometimes, you will stand up and keep walking. The Portal point was quite sticking... at first I didnt believe it... I wanted to believe it, I wanted it to be real but I couldnt believe it because I needed proof. Yet I didnt discard it as a possibility. Since the was no way I could prove or disprove its veracity, I simply allowed myself to hear the message because, ultimately, I realized, it does not matter who is talking: What matters is if it made sense common sense. And it did. The best of all was the fact that I could test things for myself. I tested self forgiveness: it works. I tested self corrective application: it works. I tested self honesty: its fucking hard! But definitely possible. Things that were being said through the Portal could be tested and proven to be real and I was quite satisfied with that. If it was Jesus or Buddha talking, that was just irrelevant. In the end of 2007 and beginning of 2008 the Portal was doing interviews with the Structural Resonance of some of the Desteni participants at the time - and I was one of the lucky ones who had one made. Unfortunately, due to the main Desteni Productions Channel on YouTube being closed in August last year (2011), this interview is no longer available. Yet, that specific interview about me (who I have become) and my process was a slap in the face that confirmed that the Portal is in fact real. This might not mean anything to you (I really do not care if it does) but if you want to hear from me if the Portal is real or not: Yes, it is REAL! What is interesting to note about the Portal point is that regardless of its authenticity, I had already proven to myself through application of the tools suggested that what Desteni is sharing is indeed both the individual and global solution for ALL the problems we have in this world. I say again: THE SOLUTION TO ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THIS WORLD. HELLO!!??! Did you hear what I said? THE SOLUTION... to ALL the PROBLEMS... IN THIS WORLD!!!! Can I prove this to you? No. You have to prove it to yourself: You have to realize that YOU ARE THE PROBLEM and THUS the SOLUTION. If you do not have the common sense and self honesty to SEE this you will be UNABLE to hear the Desteni message and as such UNABLE to truly face yourself and be the change that this world requires. Fortunately for all, you will die that way... You are better dead than a living problem! Dust to dust.
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One thing is for sure: You will SEE you will have to face yourself and your creation. Its simple: YOU CANT RUN AWAY FROM YOURSELF! As dust you will face yourself: You are Equal and One with, to and as All. Its in your hands... you choose! Joao Jesus is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/48

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GABRIEL ZAMORA MORENO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWSzLTOXk_0

30 January 2012

In this vlog I share why I was able to hear the Desteni messgae - why it made sense to me - and why I decided to stick to self-forgiveness Through the application of self-forgiveness I learned what it really means to stand up within msyelf and to express myself - and that I am not my mind. Gabriel Zamora Moreno is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/47

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MAREK SNIAGER
http://mareksniager.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/desteni2012-why-i-could-hear-the-desteni-message-and-why-i-am-walking-desteniiprocess/

26 January 2012 Desteni.org and desteniiprocess.com What? Why? Porque? Preo? Zato? In this post I will share with everyone Why I am participating in Desteni ? & How did I find the message / Why I could hear the Message of equality and oneness ? My life before the encounter with the desteni material the Material / message which supports Life / Equality and oneness of all / everything in existence and the simple common sense in our reality - before that I was just like any other being who went to school , had a family , had a broken heart , lived on the street , work for money , drank alcohol , skating , playing music , masturbating , getting angry , having internal conversations , etc , etc As been said just like anyone. I am still just like anyone in fact equal and one with and as everyone as the part of the whole existence . Well before that encounter with Desteni I couldnt understand what does it mean to be Equal and one with and as everything / everyone in existence.. I had no Idea.. i mean it did sounded pretty cool and all but really I had no Idea what does it really mean. The comprehension of what the message of Equality and oneness is is still growing within myself . Everyday this circle of what I am equal and one with expands. As it is the process of that[in my current understanding]. - In short story before I get to hear some of the first Desteni videos me and my girlfriend we Have been much into the sex , drugs , party , alcohol , The Zeitgeist movement , Conspiracy Theories , David Icke , osho , Spirituality , but also working and overall participating in the current living -But WITHOUT THE QUESTIONING OF WHO WE ARE WITHIN US? WHAT IS THE MIND? THE PYRAMID-HIERARCHY SYSTEM OF MONEY OF THE WORLD? ETC,ETC.. At first I was deaf one can say lol .. I was watching / listening to the Desteni videos and articles but I didnt hear nothing . It was for me just like another time spent in my life. In that time it was november 2010 I was mostly working every night after work getting a little drunk / drunk and seeing some Desteni videos in between the conversation with my girl and
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after that going to sleep / playing on guitar , sex , party / drugs / etc.. And so It started - At first I was just continuing with what I was doing before my lifes circle of perceived happiness and positivity little I knew then that what I was living as was a program of the systematic mind perception of myself in separation of myself self glorification and suppressed fear which dictates me where , why & how I will go / move into the next situation , place , reaction.. But I had to admit the fear which they were speaking of I knew within myself . I knew somethings what they were speaking/writing about. Especially the fear. I knew that fears within me I lived with them my whole life and no one usually talked about them that was hidden in front of everyone in my life before and it has been also hidden in front of myself Lol! I really feared these fears!! I knew / I was conscious that they were there , but I was shit scared to deal with them. IN FACT I WASNT AWARE OF THE FACT THAT I CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH THEM THAT I CAN ERASE THEM / STOP THEM!.. as I have said before I wasnt questioning the mind program before It never occurred to me to question the mind / to question myself as the mind! And that was the Step to take to understand to question to get out from [just for a little , but Get Out from] that was cool ! I could stop emotion or thought and I started to test the Self-forgiveness.. Self-forgiveness [SF] before Ive applied for the first time SF that took me about a month , a month of thinking about it if I should ? And How ridiculous it was for me then? And how shameful? but I did I tried it and I crossed that line of shame and fear in relation to that a little. But I didnt trusted it in that moment. SF for me in the beginning was just a game , mind game of experimenting as Ego as some kind of statement like: You see Ive applied Self-forgiveness and nothing changed!!! I said to my girl / to myself that day. I was very much against it [SF] within myself and I remember when Veno said in his videos of Structural resonance that I have to apply self-forgiveness in public Wow in that moment I thought Never Ill be able to push myself to do that / to be able to stand as that self-forgiveness statement with stable breath / mind / position within myself. I remember that. Lol. After that the process has started for me but it has been more like a Pretender process where I was still very much playing Savior and Ego & fear game within myself & my reality
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 And I have to admit that I still sometime do find myself in situations where I still participate in these mind patterns but as there has been few significant steps within myself I do cut off through writing many patterns , memory driven behaviors [another self-glorification Lol] Another thing within my process was that I in the beginning was very much seeing / starting to see the deception around me but it took me twice as long to see it within myself. To understand that simple thing as : The self first , that this is the SELF-realization process , that I have to start with self first took me quiet a while , as I was looking outside of myself and wanting to do self-support process .. Looking for myself outside of myself .. And that is it Self-first / self-process . Sharing self-process with others as self -Not accepting nothing less and nothing more then who one really is as Life / as the Breath of life equal and one with and as everything and everyone. Take back what belongs to you through yr process at Desteniiprocess.com Marek Sniager is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/156

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ANDREA TEALE
http://lifeisherenow.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/2012-why-i-was-able-to-hear-the-desteni-message/

23 January 2012 Hello, A couple of years before I came upon the Desteni interviews on You Tube I was involved in a group for a short time. The group was based on this woman who said she was one of threespeakers on the planet who knew the true history of the planet and what was really going on here. I read her books and thought it was interesting and went to learn all the complicated processes chanting, spinning, looking at codes that would ascend you into the Inner Earth. When I got to the very high priced seminar everything seemed very weird to me. I noticed the adulation that everyone had towards this woman which I really disliked and that her husband was drunk and demeaning to people. There was a hierachy amongst people as to whether they were 12 strand emerald coded ascended masters which I also thought was bullshit since in her books she had talked about creating an egalitarian community of people on earth, yet nothing could be farther from the truth as to what they were demonstrating. To make a long story short, I questioned everything because that is what I do, and by the end of the seminar she had anounced to everyone that I was a dark avatar that had come to disrupt the group and flip their high codes and I was trying to take every down into the Phantom Matrix. Interestingly people who had been my so called friends quickly pulled away from me as if I had the Bubonic plague. Other spiritual people started to spit on me. It was a pretty truamatic event because I think if it were the Middle Ages I would probably would have been burned at the stake since this all occurred at a castle in Ireland. On the plane trip home, everyone changed their seats to get away from me and they were chanting and holding the codes next to them when I went to the restroom. For 2 years I had those pictures in my head of the mob going wild on me. Two of those socalled friends, who had turned on me at this event, died very tragic deaths shortly afterward. I had always had a very strong bullshit meter and my questioning of things usually lead me into some kind of trouble.
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I was very shy and full of trepidation to ever get involved in anything ever again until I started to watch the Desteni videos. This time everything made sense and explained exactly who and what these people were. It seemed as if I had to go through this ridiculous process with this ascension nonsense in order to see the real thing. Everything that was said gave a ring of clarity and also a solution to the mess that we are in through self forgiveness, self correction and breathing. Nothing else. No hierarchy only equality. No bullshit only clarity. No dogma, no gurus, no complicated process, no special coded avatars. Now coming up on 4 years of doing the process, I can firmly say that this is a bullshit free zone. It has only got better with time as we enter into a world of solutions. Desteni was the answer to all those niggling questions about reality and what I had suspected and known as the truth and gave the solutions. Doing the Desteni I Process is the most freeing process one can do. Having a look at the mind and how it works and then having the remedy to work with it and then becoming more yourself enables you to make a difference in the world, free from all these strange belief systems , dogmas and religions. Dont get caught in all the New Age bullshit that I did, looking for a quick exit strategy to nowhere. The one process I incurred was full of demons and empty promises lead by crafty, dishonest, greedy people. Find the true answer within yourself! Join us at desteni.org and be here in life with us!

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MATS BJORNSTI
http://matsbjornsti.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-could-hear-desteni-message.html

21 January 2012 Why I could hear the desteni message is actually self explanatory if you dare to really listen to what they present.But yet it is a process of continuously investigating the vast message they share. The Desteni message isabout facts, its about the real reasons of events that has and is taking place on earth down to the individual levelthus you have to be steady in pushing through the resistances like judgements and believes to gain some actualcommon sense and self honesty. Thats actually the side effects to it so to speak if you really dare to listen. What makes the desteni message really stand out is the fact that it gives everyone universal tools self can applyyourself with to help yourself progress in becoming self honest and act in the best interest of all. The destenimessage is all about self in relation to life and correcting oneself by being the change instead of placing trust andvalue in something outside yourself that in reality is straight up made up delusions to have you not act in making areal difference in this world.Time to learn what it takes to change this world and do whatever it takes to get it done. This is all points I have realized for myself after I investigated the desteni message by getting to the point whereI could see for myself without any influence that what I had learned was in fact the truth of the matter. Also youdont have to be a genius to see and realize that the world and humans is in a crazy condition that result in all theabuse we now see all around us. Who would know how and why? Desteni knows. I may sound to good to be true,if you dont have a clue about desteni,but really, is that a valid judgement? Prove yourself wrong or right! When I first discovered the desteni message I was in a delusional bi polar state because of how I had allowed myselfto exist as in my life. Based on how I programmed myself to function according to the believes and influences Igain throughout my life. Thats why the message really struck me really hard and revealed all of how and why I did whatI did. It exposed all of my bullshit and left me in a state of immense fear until I stood up and faced my bullshit. Thatsso cool because it really straight to the core gives you the opportunity to correct the state you find yourself in and changeit through a process utilizing the tool
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presented in a way that you directs you to the best state of living you can become. All I can say to any newcomers is that youve finally reach the group you always wanted to join, we are in a questfor world equality through the Equal money system we push for to make the world the best place it can become.We will not stop until it is done, so you are either in or out, thats up to you! So what I wanna say is give yourself the time necessary to investigate the desteni message because it is extensive.What I suggest is that you join desteni i process to really go through lessons with a buddy support systemand join the forums on the website so you can get the answers youre looking for. Thanks!

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YOGAN BARRIENTOS
Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knZEx9uIUDs Part 2 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sbrhHYKRg8

06 February 2012 Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knZEx9uIUDs

Part 2 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sbrhHYKRg8

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An interview i did with myself on what matters to me about the message and why i stuck with the desteni message of equality with oneness The circumstances that are before us has been constructed through many years of selfsubmission to a system, belief, religion, idea, perception, thought... Time to stop and consider the choice we must make for life to exist.

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MANUELA JUNGMANN
http://manuelaj.wordpress.com/2012/02/06/why-i-was-able-to-hear-destenis-message/

06 February 2012 Desteni answers my childhood questions! With Desteni I have come full circle to my childhood. Perhaps all children who are born into this world experience great discrepancies between what is happening on the planet and what makes sense to them. Many of us forget that when we are little, we are not so impressed by what the world of adults has to offer. For me this was a particularly strong point which is where my journey for answers started, and I remember this well. When I was a child the adults in my immediate surrounding considered me a late bloomer. I was born into an environment where I had to figure much out for myself. I can remember thinking that adults where strange because they did not want to play anymore. I certainly did not want to become like them. All their serious occupations seemed to stress them with little enjoyment. I could also never see why adults did what they did why was work and family everything in life? More importantly I could not understand why the earth was split up in sections. In some sections people lived well, they could buy all kinds of things and load up their houses while in other sections people had nothing or very little. About those others, who did not have what my family had, I knew little of. Back then the internet was not available and the general information flow did not flood my world the way it does today. Hence I learned about those others in ad hoc situations, that seemed all too curious to me because no one had any real answers. Besides the occasional representative from charities coming to our house to collect money, the remainder of information concerning the other, or those who were not of middleclass European origin came to me in conversations like this one: Mother: Eat what is on your plate. Other kids dont have anything to eat they would be so happy if they had what you have. So finish whats on your plate. Me: really? Where are those kids now? Mother: they are in Africa
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Me: and they cant eat? Mother: no they cant eat Me: but they must be hungry Mother: of course they are hungry, they are just like you Me: but if they are just like me, then why cant they eat? Mother: because they dont have any money Me: oh, why dont they have money? Mother: because they dont have work Me: why dont they have work? Mother: because the country is poor Me: why is the country poor? Mother: finish your plate and stop talking Me: why cant we make them rich the way we are you said they are hungry just like me? Mother: end of talking, you need to finish whats on your plate NOW! Me: but I dont understand My mother: I dont care finish your food NOW Conversations like this one are not atypical for children, and my mother is not the only one who answered them in this way. All too often innocent questions end up unanswered because we, adults, no longer have common sense to answer in an earnest manner. How can we accept to not be able to answer to the most basic questions in life? Later on in school I learned that this is all to do with our economic system; with supply and demand; with resources and labour that can be turned into money for the country; with interest rates and financing; that it had to do with government and organisation; politics and negotiations - It all seemed unnecessarily complicated and unjustifiable. Why does it have to be this way? was neither answered in school nor at university. All information was usually presented as irrefutable fact to which I had to succumb in my
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thinking, to be a good student and be accepted in society. I had to make-belief what I was told and not ask too many of the wrong kinds of questions. At some point in my teenage years when I realised that life is quite one dimensional, I turned to Eastern religion to find answers on why we live like we do in this world. The mystical and spiritual aspects of Eastern religion were the perfect place to escape to in hopes of finding the kernel of truth that must be hidden somewhere, and that would explain it all. In essence, I realise today that I was pursuing my self-interest, the perfectly constructed diversion that would allow me to ignore what was happening around me, the abuse, the atrocities and the wars it would allow me to shroud my life in self-righteousness behaviour and feel good about it. I was already so conditioned to believe that through acquiring knowledge I would gain access to answers, I gladly studied Eastern religion to find my way out of this darkness. Answers, I thought, had to be earned through hard work, just like grades in school. This meant studying Sanksrit and learning the yoga sutras, the upanishads, the Baghavad Gita spending my time in meditation and mantra repetition. In short, the harder the path to accomplishment seemed to be the more I believed to be on the right track. My journey took me from Hinduism to Tibetan Buddhism, yet there was always something that was a bit strange or did not fit together quit so well. Thus, I believed that the current path I had selected was not right one in the long run, and this thinking gave me permission to move on. After all, why do Hindus stone people to death, in the so-called honour killings, when at the same time, they are vegetarians? Am I missing something? When Eastern spirituality wore off and I still had not seen any profound answers to my questions and no real change in my personal life, I returned to the Western information pool. Meanwhile there were some people who were exposing that what we were taught by the authorities was a form of mind control. The insights these people had into our system made sense to me and gave me an outlet for my anger that I harboured against the injustices of the world. Anger, I had previously learned to suppress when I was on the mystical path. Mostly I read and listened to so-called conspiracy theories, which did not demand much else from me besides reading and listening to those who were broadcasting their ideas. From there I drifted into the Western love and light community, where many also had one foot in the conspiracy theories. I started studying again, learning to write reams of affirmations, new methods of visualisations and meditation, working with crystals and other paraphernalia. Yet, just as all the previous times, something remained missing and left me dissatisfied. My entry point into the Desteni material were Jacks videos on the history of mankind. At first these videos confused me but also intrigued me and I felt attracted to them. In a
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couple of weeks I watched the 100 videos on the topic, every night after my days work. The perspectives on life and human existence were new and different, and they involved me, I was no longer the innocent bystander. I then took the step to sign up for the forum. Here were tools offered to me that I could use to enable myself: I had to become self-organised about my process of self-realisation. I had to take responsibility that the world was in this state, no one else was there to pick up the pieces, but I could stand up and do just that. Suddenly terms like oneness made sense because they had a practical value and not as I previously experienced an intellectual one. I recall that that the vocabulary used in the various spiritual practices remained isolated from my daily reality. I saw myself continuously grasping to understand and to implement that which I learned in scriptures, from those who were channelling, and other spiritual figures. The statements that are made within the Desteni group are solid, and gave me practical guidelines in how I can take a concept, for example oneness and implement it to address my behaviour in the world. At the same time, Desteni is like a living organism, while changes in how the material is presented can occur, the essence never shifts. From my perspective nothing has compared to Desteni, because equality and oneness are implemented all the way on the micro and macro level. On the individual or micro level is where tools like self-forgiveness, self-corrective action are presented. The overall picture is also taken into consideration because to achieve practical oneness, a global system as such, the macro level, needs to change as well. The Equal Money System is the solution for an economic blueprint of oneness. I related a long story in how I got to Desteni to show that I have tried many different approaches over time. Having arrived where I am right now is the end of that journey. The search is over, because through coming to Desteni I realise that I am this journey, to become equal to all that is here. All else is a quick fix which only does one thing: a self-serving attempt to stop ones own suffering yet not comprehending that all is truly connected in oneness. Like the mind is not separate from the body as Descartes and others intellectuals have suggested, thereby initiating the development of separation that we have taken to the extreme at this time the individual is not separate from the group. This has never been understood on earth that is why all other attempts, practices and tradition have failed to bring absolute changes to humanity. This is also why Desteni will prevail and bring about a profound change in the world, and in the co-habitation of humans with all other beings. Manuela Jungmann is a DIP Agents http://www.desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/136
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LEON PERRY
http://blackwaterpower.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

27 January 2012 I was coming at a standstill within my process of self-realization within/as my adherence to spirituality. I was always yearning to find out who I was, and where Id come from. I mean -- were here, and we suppose to know where we come from right? I started to believe that the creator was hiding itself because I figured that I shouldnt have to ask.... I got some cool knowledge and information over the years of who I might be according to different extraterrestrial studies and stories that Ive read. One of the extraterrestrials that I read about were of an intellectual type that supposedly surpassed our intellectual, and technological proficiency as human beings. I mean... I got to the point of believing that who we are, as human beings, are simply a form of elaborate technology created by an extraterrestrial race, but the question was still persistent within me, Who created us? There were several doctrines that I adhered to that sounded convincing, but they were not convincing enough to remain firm within it. One of those doctrines was the Christian doctrine. I became a Christian when I was young because I was informed by my parents and family that Christianity is the way to self-realization, but they called it salvation. There was a fear towards adhering to Christianity though -- that if I am not a Christian, I am going to Hell, but the fear wasnt as prominent at the time when I was in my younger years. It became more prominent as I got older because of the knowledge and information that I acquired within/as, and about -- the integrity of Christianity, and how to be an effective Christian. When I got older, I wanted to commit myself to Christianity more because I was intermittent within it in my younger years, thus, I remained within this particular religious path for approximately 2.5 years contiguously as a point of being loyal to it. I wasnt really self-honest within it because, within, I felt that there was still something missing within my spiritual process as my relationship that I established with God, and I realized that it was ME that I was still missing. I questioned my process with God with a question to God, So is this the lifestyle that an individual suppose to have when they are committed to You?... going to church, praising, worshiping You and reading Your Word? I was not fond of the lifestyle that I had. It felt
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more like an enslavement process. There was something more that I was looking for -- so I stopped going to church, and eventually halted my relationship with God. My last prayer to God was: Im going to seek You in different ways that is not related to Christianity and if I find something that makes more sense, then I am not going to pursue this so-called Christianity religion anymore. I didnt really say it in that exact statement, but it is what I meant nevertheless. I attempted to say it in the nicest way in order for God to not become angry at my statement to Him, lol. So I went out and sought God in other studies. I always wanted to hear its voice because at church, there were prophets and prophetesses that could presumably hear God speak. Thus, I desired that ability also. Why does it even have to be an ability? is what I asked myself at one point. So I found a book called Conversations with God which really changed my perspective on life, but the primary thing that was inconsistent within/as my relationship to the book was that there were no practical applications within it wherein I am able to apply it within my life, but it did change my perspective on God, religion, and spirituality. So the fear within me of leaving the Christian God was even more prominent within me at the time because I remembered a bible scripture that stated that God is a jealous God, but I no longer, presently, have a fear of God because it is not even a point to even consider as a practical point in my life. Eventually within my spiritual quest, one of my greatest desires was to check out the astral dimension because it would be a more effective point of communication as communicating directly with the spiritual realm rather than hearing Gods voice in my head. The astral dimension was supposedly, according to my studies, a reality that looked exactly like this reality, but more liquified yet still formidable. I was looking for demons, angels.... all of the beings that I studied in the past within my quest for finding the truth about things. I told myself, Well if they are not revealing themselves here, Im going to go to them myself in the astral dimension. My quest for going to the astral dimension never really succeeded because there had to be a way wherein my mind was awake and my body asleep -- although, ones mind is always awake intrinsically according to the knowledge and information out there that speaks about the integrity of how the mind works on a scientific level. I could never achieve this so I eventually began giving up on it. Subsequently, I just fueled my mind with what I knew best -- which was having relationships with my imaginary friends that I had since childhood. I could at least believe myself to be somewhere by keeping my mind occupied with thinking about them, and communicating with them within
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my mind. I figured since most of the entities that I created within my mind were extraterrestrials -- that they are able to tell me something that I didnt know that I could tell others within this world and feel special that I have other-worldly information (not originating from this planet). One day though, I saw an interesting video on astral projection on YouTube -- on a page called Desteni, and how astral projection is simply a virtual reality within a virtual reality. I was like, What?? I never heard of that perspective before. I also viewed another video called The Design of I was an Alien in my Past Life -- because I used to believe, based on a recorded session about my life from a psychics perspective at the time, that I was an alien in my past life from the 7th Great Central Sun. I also felt like an alien most of my life anyway because of my unique personality construct that I developed within/as me. So these two videos basically impinged upon me. Therefore, I started watching more videos. Eventually, I started hearing about equality. Ive heard that statement over and over again throughout my life. I simply took it as another impractical point that could never manifest itself in this reality under the current financial systematic structure that exists. I mean -- how can we all exist within/as equality if we are all raping each others pocketbooks? That doesnt sound like equality to me. It just sounds like some mambo-jumbo bullshit that is uttered with beautiful words to keep us in a state of hope. But Desteni spoke about equality in a different light that I have never actually considered, and that is through changing the entire system into/as a system that is best for all -- not just equality as having everyone from different cultures, backgrounds, languages, religious beliefs, races, etc. coming together and singing Kumbayah. That wouldnt be commonsensical because the system, within that lovey-dovey display of affection would still be accepted and allowed to exist the way it is existing today -- thus rape, corruption, war, slavery, etc. would be still accepted within the midst of what equality is defined within/as today. It doesnt really matter how many political leaders change a rule or two that makes an impact in this world under the current system. IF THIS MONETARY SYSTEM EXISTS IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER, NO ONE CAN CLAIM ACTUAL EQUALITY, and equal rights as something that can be made formidable within the current system. Thus, equality becomes something that makes common sense. It will just need the hands to develop it (physical hands -- not spiritual hands). This is one way of how I was able to hear the Desteni message as simplicity. So within finding myself within/as my spiritual quest within religion as Christianity, and astral
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projection as a meta-physical study, I told myself that within fulfilling my spiritual desires, where does that leave the world? It leaves it in the same position of abuse, and this is thus engineered into/as all humans. Everyone has a desire, and thus, one will attempt to satisfy that desire within/through their entire lives. Where does that leave the world? -- in the same fucked up position as before. But what drives these desires to exist within the integrity as it exists is money -- which means that we all really have the same religion -- trying to obtain an extra dollar to continue our freedom within desiring what we want or prefer in order to enhance our lifestyles (whether its spirituality or being a proficient juice maker) -- because without money, how will that lifestyle be supported? Therefore, if we can become cognizant and actually put or hands together to change the very structure that is the dictator of our lives (which is money), we can develop actual equality, and this is the Desteni message that I argued with initially because I really didnt understand equality from the perspective of how it is being presented within/as common sense.

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ANNA BRIX THOMSEN

http://annabrixthomsen.com/2012/01/27/how-i-was-able-to-hear-the-desteni-message/

27 January 2012 I heard the message of Desteni because I had no other choice. I was fucked. I was at a literal dead end in my life where I could not move or go further. I had been practicing spirituality for some years along with various personal development techniques. And in my mind, I was doing this out of a noble purpose of saving humanity and the planet, but really it was because I was trying to simultaneously save and escape from myself. As most people, I had since I was a child been running and hiding from myself, thrusting myself into the future every time I faced a point that was emotionally painful or difficult, as a self-made survival mechanism to not have to face myself and my actual experience of and as myself. But no matter what I did, I kept catching up with myself. It felt like I had tried EVERYTHING. Eventually I got (conveniently) convinced that it was my personality and physical body that was the problem along with the world-system and I believed that I had to purify myself, by removing myself from everything that was of low energy so that I could raise up to the occasion of ascending myself into the higher realms of which I had absolutely no idea, but which I imagined would be a hell of a lot better than my old fucking self. So I tried everything to get rid of myself and no matter what I did, I just kept coming back. I tried meditation and I did also have some of those extraordinary experiences that make us (conveniently) believe that we are special and chosen and that if we just wait long enough, we will be beamed up to some unknown place of rainbows and eternal sunshine. I dried getting Deekshs that are these blessings given to you by someone that has been enlightened to oneness by Amma, a self-proclaimed Indian avatar, every Tuesday. I followed a global ascension group that had its own channeler and was close to travel with them around the world, but eventually I ended up in a group that used psychedelics to transcend. After inner journeys on mushrooms, acid, DMT trips and Ayahuasca, I kept having the same realization that we are all one. But no matter how many times I realized this, I could not make it real for myself. I could not make myself really One with everything at a physical and fundamental
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level. I kept experiencing fears and desires and judgments and I kept judging myself and no matter how many visualizations I did and even as I removed myself from the system by selling all my stuff and moving into a wooden caravan, I could not get rid of me. So one day, I felt frustrated and confused that no matter what I did, I did not seem to move anywhere. All I wanted was to go into the woods and transform myself to a bird and fly away. So I took stock of all the things I had participated in throughout my process since I was 15 and had started the process of what I believed to be my spiritual ascension. I looked at all the techniques and books and crystals and seminars that I had invested in, all the groups and friends and lovers I had talked with for hours and I asked myself: out of all this, what is the one point that has ever made me accelerate the most? And when I looked back at my time-line, there was only one point that stood out. When I was around 16, I had made the decision for myself to be 100% honest with myself and not allow myself to have any taboos or secrets inside myself. And this this single decision by a teenager was the one thing that I could see had fundamentally changed me. I was in absolute shock. Here I had spent years searching for the truth, buying all these solutions that never lasted and where I always came back to my old shitty self, no matter how good I tried to be or how enlightened I envisioned myself as. And in the end, simple Self-Honesty that I myself had generated in a moment I had never thought about since was THE one point that I had changed myself through. So from that day, I decided that from now on, I would walk my own self-honesty. Obviously as for most humans, most of my time went with conjuring up lies and self-deception in my mind, but I was not aware of that at the time, all I knew was that I had found a connection to myself again, but the self that I had connected to, was broken, confused and feeling totally and utterly lost. All my beliefs had been shattered and all I had to fall back on was spirituality. Because I was sure as hell not going to participate in the system, which I blamed for everything that was wrong with me and the world. So I had my back up against the wall. I started to see how fake my environment was, how fake the partying and activism was, how fake my relationship was and how broken I and everything around me was. One day I was babysitting two of my friends, who were on two different drugs tripping out, one on one bed and the other on another bed. I was merely there to make sure that nothing went wrong. That night I saw and browsed YouTube for the 108th time for DNA activation and ascension videos, ANYTHING that could give me a clue as to what the fuck was going
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on and how the fuck I could change myself. And I saw the thumbnail of the blond girl, that thumbnail that I had browsed over many times, but never been really interested in seeing, because I thought it had to do with aliens and conspiracy theories which I thought was stupid (lol while DNA activation was clearly not). But I was tired of browsing all these videos that I had seen 100 times before, so I clicked on a video called I was an alien killed on earth and from that moment on, my entire life was changed. There was not a shadow in my mind that this was real, that this being is telling it like it is and it was like taking a shower for the first time in 50 years. I was cleansing, fresh and I felt cleaned by it. It spoke directly, no bullshit vague romance shit and it was scary-as-hell-inyour-face and it was exactly matching that realization I had had about self-honesty that the most important thing to do here, is to be 100 % self-honest. That is how you stop this fucking Paris wheel from spinning. And what Desteni said, what no one ever had said to me in my entire life was: you are responsible for this. It is because of you and who and how you have allowed yourself to exist that the world is what it is, why you are who you are. You are responsible. And it was a shock, but it was also an experience of coming home coming home to reality for the first time in my entire life, there would be no more secrets, everything finally made sense, no more mysteries, no more myths or fairytales all would be revealed by and as myself. That night I did not sleep. I watched maybe 40Desteni videos and when my friends woke up, I felt completely and utterly transformed. On one hand it was like I had no ground under my feet and was floating above the ground, but on the other I felt grounded more so than ever before. And from there I started walking, watching the videos, reading the articles on the website and quickly joined the forum where I was introduced to Self-Forgiveness. I started realizing that I COULD change myself, but that I had in fact prevented myself to simply because I did not want to face myself, I was shit scared of facing myself after having been hiding from myself for so many years and as such, because I did not take selfresponsibility for myself, I could not change because all I was, was a puppet, an organic robot, existing to feed the mind. So now I am walking the Desteni I Process, where I start understanding how I have created myself, so that I can stop, stand up and change it is really THAT simple. The only catch is that we have to do it ourselves. No one can be SelfHonest for me.
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The reason why I listened to Desteni was primarily because Sunette, who I at the time knew as that blond girl, constantly popped up on my screen. She was there and she would not go away and she would keep popping up until would Dare to listen. And that is whatDesteni is here for. That is why we are Destonians. I am grateful for all theDestonians that have walked before me and that are Walking-with, making sure that the message gets out to all corners of the world, for all beings to have the opportunity to stand up and to get the support and assistance that we have been given and that we are giving each other on a daily basis. Weve got a story to tell and it is about all of us, you included and how we have separated ourselves to such an extent from ourselves, that we have created a reality for ourselves of utter brutality, evil and abuse. The mind, to which we have abdicated ourselves exist as an entire system of self-defense, defending that part of ourselves that is fear of losing and that part will do, say, be, become, feel, kill, fuck anything and anyone to get what it want, because that is all it exists as, all it can ever be. So it is up to us, to SEE ourselves, to DARE to LISTEN, to FACE ourselves and to stand up within and as the self-responsibility that WE are the CREATORS of this WORLD, this reality and ourselves. And nothing will change or go away until we change ourselves. So if you dare to be self-honest, you can give not only yourself, but all of humanity a gift of a life-time. To change what is here once and for all. AtDesteni we are going to be in your face, every day humanity, from here on out, until we stop, stand up and change. We are going to keep popping up, until each and every single human being starts listening. Because only when all walk together as equal, can we stand as One. Walk with Desteni We are not going to walk away. My name is Anna Brix Thomsen and I am Destonian.

Anna Brix Thomsen is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/24

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CATHY KRAFFT
http://cathy4worldequality.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/2012-how-ive-come-to-value-the-message-of-desteni/#wpl-likebox

01 February 2012 From the moment I watched my first Desteni video, as well as reading the massive amounts of material on the Desteni Universe website I was pretty much hooked. And, I had just 3 months prior to that spent two weeks in jail, from an unpaid traffic ticket of which I was supposed to do community service on and I lacked a few hours of community service so I was arrested and put in jail for 26 days without bond. Now, as it turned out, I had a twisted my ankle and, I had crutches and so, the first 2 days of my time in jail was spent in solitary confinement. I did end up getting out 2 weeks later for good behavior. But, those first 48 hours in solitary confinement had posed an interesting question to myself in that: I didnt have the t.v. to look at, I didnt have entertainment, I didn t have,,, I wasnt able to smoke, I was still smoking then. And, I wasnt able to take drugs I was on pain pills. And I, all I had was myself. All I had was my thoughts and, for 48 hours I sit in the room a little square cemented room and, avoided my thoughts, tried to sleep away my thoughts just wanted to be out of there. I didnt want to be locked away with the amount of thoughts that I begin to realize I had going on within my mind. And so, that was a particularly amazing wake-up call for myself, actually. And so, when I heard the Desteni message, and I began to hear them speak about how to stop fear, and how to stop your thoughts and to face yourself in self-honesty and to apply self-forgiveness I remember literally realizing how valuable those tools would have been for me when I was in a 48 hour solitary confinement, as well as the rest of the two weeks that I was there. And so, the fact that I could see myself within the material that they were presenting, and I saw the common sense, and I began to hear and, make sense of within myself it was as though the message resonated within me in a way that I didnt really understand but, I knew that it, it rang true, and that this very well could be a way to stop the fears that I had been participating in. You know my grandmother used to tell me, when things get too much for you, just tie a knot and hang on. But the fact is, I was at the end of the rope and there was no more rope to tie

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a knot to hang on. And, I was disgusted and, pissed off, at myself, for the decisions that I had made and for the lack of responsibility, and I didnt even ever consider not hearing the message from the moment I began to hear it. And, another point stood out to me was, how we can have one singular memory, and that particular memory it controls us. And, we base our decisions and, who we are, and our actions, according to one singular memory. And that rang true with me because, from the time that I was five years old, I can remember a memory that, as I looked at it closer, I could tell how I had literally just compounded, and compounded that memory with another memory right on top of it, in my attempts to avoid the original point within me that I was not facing within that memory within the fears, and the judgments, and the self-justifications, and the points of manipulation that I existed as that I applied myself as in order to validate myself through other people. Simply avoidance of self and avoidance of self-responsibility. And, the point was validated through my relationship with my step-father, through which I would have statements of information that I had thought of, or heard, or seen, or read about things, or people, or situations and within that I formed emotional feeling connotations within my own mind. And then, within the emotional feeling connotations, I could relate that statement of information, based on my past experiences with my step-dad, I identified with that statement of information and I validated it based on self-identity and self-definition. It was what I was believing it to be, and thinking about it to be, and judging myself accordingly, and believing that my step dad hated me and when really, it wasnt that case at all. I got to a point where I actually believed the man was abusive to me and, he wasnt no more than any other parent struggling to make ends meet and, just working to provide for their children. Just that alone the money plays such a factor in our survival that we tend to become short with our children and, we have expectations of them that we wouldnt normally have if we werent already experiencing the pressures of providing for them. In our current money system, that is how our families exist. That is how all relationships exist. As I began to apply self forgiveness, was very cool to realize that one particular memory I had was when I turned 12 years old on my birthday, and my,,, I was asleep in my bedroom that morning, and my dad just come bursting into my bedroom and started spanking me and, I was asleep I didnt understand what the hell was going on. I remembered thinking, more than anything, that like, what the fuck did I do, and when I heard my mom say happy birthday that they said they were playing and within that moment, I became just humiliated and embarrassed and pissed more than anything. And I had thoughts of how dare him, who does he think he is doing this to me on my birthday, its not funny. And for years I carried around that singular memory of what I thought of him that day.

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The way that I would experience myself in my life around my dad, my step-dad and, around men in general, was completely related to that particular memory. So, as I was applying and finishing up a lesson in Desteni I Process, I began to walk that memory construct of that particular morning when he came in there, and an interesting thing that I became aware was: a point within myself on that morning when he was spanking me was that I, for a brief moment, I knew that he was playing, but I didnt allow myself to be aware of it at that particular moment. Because, I was too busy enjoying being pissed off. I was too busy feeling sorry for myself. But, what was interesting to me the most was: I had not remembered that moment. I had not remembered that I knew he was playing. Until I walked this point, this construct in my Desteni I Process Lesson and, thats when I went: I knew this all along. But yet, for 40 years, I allowed myself to abuse myself, and as such, I literally abused the rest of my world. Its not always particularly easy when you realize that you that youve accepted and allowed just through participation in self-judgment, in greed, and self-interest within those participations with the thought processes that go on with the amount of dishonesty that self exists as within that, and the lack of equality against life it literally begins to manifest and, that is how we have created this world as it is. So, these singular memory points was a point of polarity in the good/bad, right/wrong and fluctuations of energy within that as far as one moment I was up, one moment I was down, I was up and down and up and down. And, when I began to hear the Desteni Message, I was, I knew that I didnt have anywhere else to go except to face myself within. What Desteni proposes is, in-fact as real as Ive ever known anything to be. And, it is been the most rewarding journey that Ive ever personally experienced and, its not even honestly an experience, its a, a becoming aware of yourself, and the responsibility that you actually carry, as well as each and every living being here, in bringing about a world that supports according to whats best for all. That actually cares what happens to another. That is actually interested, that considers that there are actually children starving to death daily thousands of children. And, realizing yourself within it. And its a process I am continuing to walk and, realizing what Ive accepted as far as that point of acceptance within myself that point of acceptance that goes beyond anything of worth to self, other than knowing that youre reaching this core part of yourself where you can actually reverse who you have been you can actually reverse the madness, and the bullshit, that youve participated in through personalities and identities. And, you begin to look at and you go: Uh, I know how it wasnt real. I see now that I could
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have breathed through that, that I can breathe through that and, I do not have to be affected by it. I do not have to have points of energy that create a point of polarity within myself remain within the physicalness of it all so, we can bring about a world that we can begin with an Equal Money System. A World that well actually exist where were not competing, and were not existing in greed, and were not trying to outdo and outlast, and out-earn, and outplay, and well be able to enjoy each other. To actually enjoy each others expression where were not anticipating ourselves to be competing, in one way or another just to survive. So, that is how the Desteni Message caused me to listen and, because of that direction that I chose, I have given myself the ability to re-educate myself, and to build self-trust, through investigating my world. And, not assuming and accepting what it is that is before me, whether its starvation or judgment, or animosity, or guilt and, being able to recognize those points of self, that self has existed as, is remarkable, and it is something that is worth investigating, just to see for yourself. Its an accumulation of walking a process daily: Breathing and remaining aware of yourself. And, sometimes I fall. But, I already know I have an agreement with myself and that agreement is: I have the will to continue to assist and support in bringing about an Equal Money System, and Heaven on Earth. To bring about a world where all life can actually express, and be and live abundantly with each other. And, that is how Desteni has assisted me. Theyve assisted me to realize myself within everything thats here. And, the point of Equality was, at first, difficult for me to comprehend, and that was just a point of acceptance within myself, because I had accepted the way the world is and the way the struggles continue. And, once you begin to actually investigate, you begin to see that its really was just a point of a lack of education. And now, Im aware of how an Equal Money System is the Ultimate Solution. One must become willing to realize that the change that is required in this world is first required within self, in self-honesty. And then, once that begins, you can begin to will yourself to investigate and educate yourself with regards to how we can create heaven on earth with an Equal Money System. This post is the transcription from my vlog titled: 2012 - How Ive come to Value the Message of Desteni Investigate Equal Money Cathy Krafft is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/23
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CHRISTOPHE DE GROOTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6duNK4L4-c

18 January 2012

How I got fascinated by Desteni, how I started listening to the message, and how I decided to get involved in this promise for a New World - - this New World that is only able to manifest from within self. Allow yourself to use the tools, because its only then that youll be able to see what you hadnt really conceived possible. Christophe De Groote is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/18

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CAROLYNE MOIGE SCHNIDRIG

(SUNSHINE CAROL)
http://onenessandequalityhere.blogspot.com/2012/01/2012-why-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni.html

31 January 2012 In the earliest years of my life, my grandmother raised my brothers and I in very strong Christian values of the Seventh Day Adventist Church (SDA). At this point in time, my mother was away, so was my father.my parents had separated and my mother went to further her studies in India. I was very good in memorizing bible verses and I would recite them in church each Saturday and my grandparents were very proud of me. Later on, my mother came back from India and we relocated to the Rift Valley part of Kenya where she was high school teacher. In less than a year she got a new job and again we relocated to Nairobi. It is Here that my mother met an Italian man with whom she spent close 20 years together, and also how I begun to see beyond my nose. One evening, when I was 9 years old, my then new step-father and i started talking. I remember I asked him about prayer and if he believed in God. He then smiled at me and asked me several questions which helped me confirm what I had been questioning myself all along. Questions like: If God was fair and just, how come some people live longer than others? If really getting saved gets one into heaven where one has eternal bliss, then can it fair when others live longer than others, because those who live longer have more time to repent and get their act together than those who had short lives. Another was why should all of humanity have to suffer because of one mans sins (Adam and Eve story)? Why dont we remember where we came from? Why are we here? Who are we? Why is there so much suffering on earth? Why I was not asked if I want to participate in this suffering? Why does God impose so much suffering on some for an insane reason that others must suffer so that others can learn? And so much more! And so it is from here that I began my quest to look for any possible answer why things were the way they were back then, which still continue till now and now just being much worse than back then. So all time when I was among my friends, and religion or another topic came up, I asked questions or gave perspectives that no one was expecting. Later on when I was in high school, it is here than my questioning and curiosity grew even more. It wasnt long before my fellow students begun branding me with names like: the
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weirdo, the devil worshipper, the girl possessed with demons, Satan etc. some students even came up with stories that God had sent them to save me through prayer. Even teachers referred to me as a strange child. During and Later on after high school, I read many book, delved into the study of other religions like Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Jehovahs Witness and Atheism. I also followed several meditations taught by some Gurus or ascended masters. I also did daime (Ayyahuasca) all in my quest to look for truth and answers to my questions. And so I learnt a lot about love, positive, negative, law of attraction etc. but to me this wasnt enough. I still had not reached the IT point! I had few experiences of my own where I had visions but my most vivid extraordinary experience happened sometime late 2008. At this point in time, my brother and I had been spending countless of sleepless nights chatting the night away about religion, life, God, politics, movies, meditation, love etc. so on this particular night, I was in my brothers bedroom and lying on his bed. It was dark, and suddenly I had a loud gunshot like sound in my head and immediately was at many places instantaneously. I was in New Jersey where my father lives today, in South Africa, in all rooms in my home, outside, and other places I dont recall well. This was ofcourse accompanied by great fear as I did not know or understand what was happening to me. All that was clear was that I was lying on my brothers bed and was in many places at the same time. So ofcourse, this did not last long and it has never happened again ever since then. I talked to my brother about the experience I had just had and he told me he has experienced that and more and so it was comforting to know that I wasnt alone. THE MARTRX movie, after watching it more than 3 times as my brother had recommended, it finally dawned on me that, we humans may actually be just robots, preprogrammed and being used as energy generators by higher beings, just dint quite understand fully how. And so I began researching online for different perspectives on the matrix movie. This is where I learnt about the galactic federation of light, David Icke, credo Mutwa, the Mayans, etc. and ofcourse, Sunnette of desteni. After watching just 2 videos of Sunnete, I KNEW that this was the IT point in my life! So I watched many desteni videos, THREE things were EXPLAINED over and over again: SELF HONESTY, SELF FORGIVENESS AND SELF CORRECTIVE APPLICATION IN AND AS SELF AWARENESS all in every moment of and as BREATH HERE. At Desteni I learn what it means to be one and equal to and as life, I learn about taking SELF RESPONSIBILITY towards myself and all life instead of imposing it on others or a higher power or being. Here Iearnt that there is only one
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choice and this is the choice that considers all life equally as self and this choice is a choice that is best for all life, and not based on self interest which is chocking not only human life but all Life life on earth including earth itself. I learnt that we are all responsible for how life is currently lived and experienced here on earth, this immense suffering. Many questions I was asking myself of who am I, why am I here, what is the meaning of life, why be here on earth, who/what is God etc have been explained in details and in great commonsensical clarity. Here they explain COMMON SENSE common sense, living simplified. and to top it all, really the Equal Money System where all humans have equal money from birth to death! I investigated equal money and im convinced without a doubt that an Equal Money system is the key to end most of all the suffering of all life forms here on earth! Many phylosophers, teachers, gurus like Jesus, Buddha, ghandhi, Mohammed, the delai lamas, shivas, vishnus etc all just taught to love thy neighbor as u love thyself, which means, you cant really love thy neighbor before u learn to love thyself. Desteni will show you how to love thyself, how to become the very Love that is the essence of life, life is u, is all, as one as equal and it is only from this love as self that one can for real love ones neighbor. Usually when I read about or found something new, I still had questions which lead me to discovering something higher and the game went on. And so I met desteni and here theres equality, all are ONE and equal (yet different in expression) what can be higher than equality? Nothing. At desteni I learnt the difference between whats reality and illusion, I mean, what else can one want to become that is higher except REAL? Here I learnt reality about our physical earth, isnt earth the Alpha and omega? The only thing that has always remained even when all pass away.this is common sense. Where else can u ever be except where really you are? HERE! U can imagine, create, think, memorize etc, but u can never change the fact that you are where you are, which is HERE! How else can u ever see changes in your reality if you dont become the changes? I mean what is higher about change than BECOMING and BEing the Change itself? And so I have concluded my quest for truth, truth wasnt hidden anywhere, it was with me all along and DESTENI have and are still supporting me to take responsibility of my life as I REALIZE this truth about me one BREATH at a time. Taking responsibility towards self and all life as I be the witness of my death as a mind consciousness system into the physical as one as all as equal, HERE. Theres is no HERO or Jesus coming to save one from the shit that one has allowed and accepted to happen in ones world. So, stop waiting and take responsibility and clean your own mess! If you need support, desteni is here for you.
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SYLVIA VAN OVERSCHOT-GERSSEN

http://sylviafreedom.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/how-i-was-able-to-hear-the-desteni-message/

05 February 2012 When I 4 years ago stumbled upon a video of Desteni, done by Sunette as a portal, I wasnt looking for the Desteni message. I had no intent to join any group what so ever, I had no intent to face myself and I had absolutely no intent to change the world simply because I never perceived myself as someone that could change the world. I was living my dream within my bubble and could see, feel and understand that there was something really wrong with the world I was living in. And I say the world I was living in, because I didnt see the world as the world I am a part of. I was raised in the era of individualism and joining a group was kind of hippie like and kind of impossible for me to join groups while I perceived myself as an independent individual and not part of the collective thats called life. I lived life my way in an original way believing in me as good and peaceful going along on the new age wave and creating a new belief out of love&light and being on top of the world as a conspiracy junk to point fingers at all that was bad in this world to not face myself and instead blaming others for making my dream life impossible. Wow, that was my start 4 years ago after 40 years of pretending to live. I lived, I hibernated through the years, but I hadnt really lived. I observed my live as the observer of my own life, afraid before taking every breath without recognizing my separation of life. I was floating around and on a conscious level not searching for answers about life, I was simply too afraid to burst my bubble. Yet I was complaining about not getting the answers I wanted within my process of Reiki and energy work. Without realizing it. I was searching for answers all my life and hadnt gotten any. I expected others to bring me the answers and did not even consider the possibility of finding answers myself. With the beginning of the internet things changed and searching was quite easy all of a sudden and yet a sea full of information to go through. I was disappointed in religion, not seeing that religion for me was an energy refill and I got hooked on the energy. The moment I had to become an active part of the religious group I backed out and blamed them for narrowness. I was disappointed in spirituality, because it didnt serve me the specialness I was looking for to refill myself with energy, the very energy I lost by leaving the religious group. The moment it was time to decide which spiritual group
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was ment for me, I backed out and blamed them for being too extreme and not grounded. When I started to read conspiracy theories it confirmed my ego in being right all along and I used this information like a religion to convert people like Jehova Witnesses do. So you can say that I was quite a lost case to hear anything and who had tried to find the answers to life without really knowing that I was searching for the answers and yet when I saw that first Desteni Productions video it hit home. I do not recall which video it was since I started to search for more after that first one. Ive spent weeks watching the Desteni materials, I simply couldnt stop. I had to know and I had to understand what Desteni was communicating with me. Their material was touching me deep inside and it was so easily answering many of my questions that had been so hard for others to answer. I saw how I had been wandering around as an observer in my own life and was eager to learn how to direct myself for the first time in life. I was able to hear what Desteni said while being in a zombie state and completely brainwashed by society and upbringing, not very different from any average person. I had made major changes in my life and still I had this dissatisfied feeling inside of me. I didnt want to believe that this was life and that this was all that was to it, I believed that there had to be more to life than this. Simply out of the fear that if life was this unspecial I couldnt claim my own specialness anymore, no individualism anymore. I would be useless in a world without purpose. So my ego demanded that there should be more to life than this. How could I be the award winning star of my own movie as I was playing in a B movie? I took the Desteni ride and I was in for a lot more than I had expected. I took over a year to take all information in and keeping up with the new materials. Then the moment arrived where I could join the forum, which I by the way could had done from the start, but I was afraid. I was afraid of not expressing myself good enough in English, I was afraid of not being a good enough Destonian yet, I was afraid to meet all these people I didnt know yet. Though the biggest fear was joining the forum was equal to me to joining a group. So I feared loosing my identity/individuality and almost physically shaking I registered though never posted anything. Appart from not joining the forum I kept actively listening to the new materials and sharing it with my partner and kids. Only when I had the intend to start the Structural Resonant Alignment training I forced myself to join actively the forum and so I did. From joining the forum I joined Desteni on Facebook and You Tube and contributed to the newsletter. Before I knew it I was part of a group and I recognized myself in all the people that joined. I realized that it wasnt that fearful to join a group. I even enjoyed joining this group. The more
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I became aware of myself and who I had accepted and allowed myself to be, the more I understood and realized the importance of facing myself and therefore facing the world. By changing myself I could actually be a living example. There was no need anymore to hide myself and peep through the key hole to observe life. The more I started to understand life and me as life the more I saw the need for an Equal Money System to end inequality and equally live and breathe ourselves for the first time without the fear of survival creeping up ones neck into real physical life. I started blogging and vlogging to spread the Desteni message just as they had equally done for me. I fell and I stood up during those last 4 years, every time stronger. Desteni helped me on a personal level to overcome events in my life I would have gone insane over when I didnt know that the key and therefore the answers are always inside of me. Taking Selfresponsibility and being Self-honest became more clear to me over the years. The difference is now Im slowly but surely walking these words and before I was still comprehending these words. I have gone from self-manipulation to self-directing and the result is less stress while sailing a stable stance in life. At the moment also my partner is doing SRA-1 and my teenage kids are applying the Desteni tools and materials as far as they are capable. I was able to hear the message of Desteni, one that says that we should love our neighbors like ourselves. Which implies that we first need to love ourselves in order to be able to love our neighbors. First we better/improve ourselves and then reflect the improved Self into the world. We do this in common sense and in the best interest of all in all ways. To understand that life takes place here within our physical reality and not up there in our minds. If we want a better life why not have a better life for all? If you can see and hear that this world is heading towards destruction and that we only have 1 life to stop and change that world as ourselves, the join us. See and investigate for yourself what were standing for and decide whether you wan to be the change, by changing you as a being. We are people just like you, so its never too late to join us and become a Destonian for life.

Sylvia van Overschot-Gerssen is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/32

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MARTIJN DE GRAAF
http://martijndegraaf1001.blogspot.com/2012/01/2012-how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni.html

31 January 2012 I had been looking for ways to change reality, and I had felt the need to change who/what I had become from age 19. Because I found society and myself rather disturbing. And as the years passed by, things got from bad to worse. In relationships I wasnt able to become a stable trustworthy partner, and in society I saw that fear and aggression amongst the people increased. I had investigated and tried all kind of different methods and means. I had used substances to try and alter myself, I became a Christian for some time, I applied meditation and I had been working in a organic garden, and more. To my surprise: where ever I was/ worked with people, I saw the same troubles. Like anger, misunderstandings, jealousy, gossip, irritations, people falling in love etc. in myself and even amongst the most spiritual of people. When I was like 50 years of age I was into Pleyadian light work and interested in St Germain and numbers appearing like 11:11. I had just learned to use a computer and on Youtube I was looking for videos on arch angels and saints, and UFOs and anything out of the ordinary. Because I just couldnt believe that life as we know it is what life on Earth can be. So I was looking for the reason as to how it all had come to be, this world and humanity stuck with ever increasing problems of sorts. I read all kind of literature on ancient wisdom to find out where we had taken the wrong road, or where we had been mislead and how. I applied then methods to heal myself and humanity/Earth. Like for instance in religion which I practiced for several years, through attending the sermon, prayer and such, and meditation, visualisation etc. I discovered that the economy as we have it wasnt a normal natural way of trading, but a specific design not in the best interest of all. I believed that the solution had to come from a higher power and a higher level because nothing of what is here can be trusted, nothing is what it seems, so I tried to move the supposedly higher beings to help us, and I tried to become higher myself to be able to magically heal the world/humanity/ myself. So some 5 years ago I was watching vids, nicely colored New Age/Spirituallity type of vids one day and amongst them appeared Sunettes face, just a face, talking, maybe it was Jack in the portal, and immediately I realized: this is genuine information. The integrity of the speaker was striking. And I listened more vids like 5 per day. I Found the series History of Man and boy was I glad to get more insight into how we had become what we are today.
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I found that Desteni presented the principle that belong to this reality: Life in Equality and Oneness. It became clear how we had accepted and allowed ourselves to be misdirected as humanity and that we merely exist as living systems. That we have abdicated responsibility for our reality as a whole and only care for ourselves/our group. That we have come to the point where we have destroyed so much that only if we drastically change our ways, life will be able to continue on the planet. This all connected to my perspective and clarified it further more. I found the tools Desteni suggests: writing, self forgiveness, self corrective statements. And as I had learned self forgiveness in a slightly different form through The Healing Journey by Brandon Bays, I could easily adapt to the Desteni self forgiveness. And later on I found that Desteni also planned to create change in society in a way that can be trusted so here I had the answer to how to change myself and how to change the world. Also I found other people applying these tools and I was very pleased to see that we were able to, thanks to our application of the tools, communicate directly and to eliminate all the normal fuzz.

Martijn de Graaf is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/52

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NIKLAS NYDAHL
http://maxernst1desteni.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/why-do-i-walk-with-desteni/

20 January 2012 What made me listen to Desteni was of course first of all the message, but also the bluntness, directness and rawness with which it was delivered nothing veiled with beautiful paraphrases, but the UNDENIABLE reality as it is. And the cardinal point was that Desteni actually provided me with practical common sense solutions to both the internal fuckedness and its external counterpart and reflection as this whole world. Desteni provided me with tools with which I could face myself instead of suppressing what I had become with meditation and light and love. I had finally access to tools that enabled me to investigate myself and stop myself from existing as a clone of my parents and a slave to my programming. Tools with which I could release myself from the bondage and chains of my past and this conditioned automatisms and transcend all mental creations to become actually self-willed and selfdirective. It wasnt about personal growth in the normal sense, evolving or adding even more to the fuckedness but rather devolving, peeling off and deprogramming. In late 2007 I had since a year been caught up in spirituality and was at this point quite frustrated with that nothing was actually changing. The lingo within the spiritual community was always covered in the sweetest honey and all that was required to be accepted within the spiritual community was to regurgitate a bunch of empty paraphrases namaste dear brother of light and if you brought in any negativity such as talking about war, rape, starvation you would be ostracized by the community. This seemed very off to me from the very beginning, but I was far too addicted to the positive feelings I gained from my participation with spirituality and new age to put down my foot and say enough! so to speak. So I continued to bury my head in the sand until Desteni swept the comfy rug from under my feet with words that I just couldnt possibly deny or resist. Finding Desteni thus saved me from digging my head deeper into this spiritual mind fuck and pretty quickly I started to see what I was participating in namely that I was desperately trying to flee from myself and my self-responsibility by creating a spiritual universe where I could justify everything with there being some higher purpose for it all completely disregarding myself as a creator through my acceptances and allowances and disregarding the one and only thing that allowed me to live in bliss and happiness MONEY.
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Within the raw and unfiltered uncovering of reality as it really is I realized that Desteni wasnt here to make me feel happy and blissful or good about myself they werent aiming to please me or tell me what I wanted to hear which furthermore made me realize the absolute credibility of Desteni. Light, love and bliss was certainly the path of least resistance, but at what cost? If I would have stayed within spirituality I would have continued to justify the abuse with karma and purpose and I would have continued to pump money into the spiritual industry without ever question myself or the state of this world. As destonians we refrain from sugar coating things, we are brutally and head-on exposing the layers of lies that we have deliberately accepted and allowed both collectively as humanity and individually as the natural state. With SelfHonesty and Self-Forgiveness I have been able to investigate specifically how I have created the personality which I used to believe was who I am and believed was set in stone, and deprogram myself from that which hinders and limits me from being Here within and as the physical, all that which separates me from the physical, all that which hinders me to stand up and do what is best for all. Since walking with Desteni for almost 4 years and having applied the tools I have for instance been able to stop Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, alcohol- and pornography addiction and push myself beyond my perceived limits just to realize that theyre not real. And I continue to dis-cover who I really am as Life and re-write myself and push myself to walk myself into a trustworthy human being that honors Life. The validity and the proof of the effectiveness of the tools is right here, shared and researched within thousands of blogs and vlogs by Destonians - and for me the proof is within how I personally have changed and been able to effectively push through perceived limitations of the mind. But by all means prove it to yourself dont take my word for it. Self-honesty and self-forgiveness will cost you zero cents and is the greatest gift you can ever give yourself. Here you find the tools and the solution to the internal as well as the external fuckedness: www.desteni.org www.equalmoney.org

Niklas Nydahl is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/38

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JUNE ROCA
Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QFU-pg1U7E Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzrr93VxEQ

Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QFU-pg1U7E

23 January 2012

Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzrr93VxEQ

June Roca is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/169

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VIKTOR PERSSON
http://viktorpersson.com/2012/01/2012-and-how-came-to-fall-in-love-with-desteni/

19 January 2012 I had just finished the gymnasium and I was searching for something, I wanted there to be something in life more exciting than money something meaningful something that I could dedicate my life towards, and find true enjoyment doing; so far I hadnt found anything that I could completely immerse myself in, I hadnt found anything that fulfilled me so I felt empty. It was in this state of emptiness that I decided to travel the world too see if I could find what I was looking for outside the borders of my birth-country I went to Asia I found nothing what was I looking for? What was it that was missing in my life? How come that nothing of what I did felt valuable, substantial, of any worth? How come I felt empty at all times? What was it that was missing? I tried following my dream to become an artist I thought that maybe me becoming an artist would fulfill me? I managed to find a gig, I managed to play in-front of a crowd I managed to get a couple of people to tell me that I was good at singing, and good at playing guitar yet still what is it that is missing? Why cant I be satisfied with myself? Why does it feel as if there always something left be done, no matter how much do? I wanted an answer I wanted to be able to enjoy myself I remembered my childhood clearly I knew that when I was young I had experienced myself differently I had been able to enjoy myself, and find the most simple things to be so utterly fascinating, and exciting playing football with my friends bathing in the lake having a pet lizard, feeding it and looking at how it ate small worms building villages out of sand, and then playing with the small sand houses I remembered this time well, and I knew that as I had grown older this ability of mine that I had possessed as a child, to be able to immerse myself in the movement of the moment, had gone missing. Something had to be done an answer had to be found a solution had to be created I couldnt continue to live and experience myself as I did I wanted to return to my childhood experience of myself but how? Where was the answer? And why was I the only one that felt as I did? Didnt anyone else feel that, as they came to grow and become older, they slowly
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but surely ran stale, like water once running freely and abundantly in a lake, but year by year slowly and almost unnoticeably drying out, until one day no more water remains that was how I felt like a fountain of water that didnt anymore have access to its water supply there was something missing. I found spirituality I found meditation I found the belief in ascension this made somewhat sense I thought and I tried to empty my mind, too breath and somehow change the experience of myself, and find some type of peace, or comfortableness this didnt work I wanted it to work I deceived myself into believing that it worked, but in essence I remained the same still this same restlessness this same unease this experience of wanting to go somewhere, yet no matter how many times I got there there was still another there to go to. Then I found Desteni due to my experience of myself, as having realized that I was empty, that there was something missing in my life, and that there was something fundamentally flawed and wrong with how I experienced, expressed, lived myself I knew that that this was in-fact the answer I had been looking for I was ready to hear more than ready to hear I understood that I had somehow, without me realizing, or seeing it died during my years of coming to age, and I knew that Desteni offered and shared the practical way of bringing myself back to life self-forgiveness self-corrective application self-honesty common sense and breath. I was looking for my youth for the ability a child owns of being able to enjoy themselves without any addiction needed to be fulfilled no love no sex no weed no alcohol no dreams no money no success no power no ascension simply living self-enjoyment here no more and no less this was what Desteni showed me how this can be done how the expression of living as the innocence of a child can be re-created and re-stored this was what I had been looking for all along. None of my friends understood or saw what Desteni presented the reason they were all to satisfied with holding on to their perceived experienced of satisfaction, created through the usage of various drugs whether it be sex whether it be alcohol whether it be drugs they simply didnt want to face that inner experience of emptiness and pointlessness that I came to see and experience within me this experience that I had for quite some time been suppressing with the usage of drugs and additives; but no more I wanted to exist without additives without a constant need of placing myself into an experience of fabricated bliss that really was only me not being aware of myself anymore but existing completely secluded from reality and how I in-fact felt.
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Desteni presents the most important message ever shared with mankind Desteni presents the way back to innocence the way back to self-expression the way back to self-trust the way back to self-enjoyment the way back to ourselves weve all been children we all know how it is to laugh because we so much enjoy expressing ourselves in the most simple and rudimentary ways Desteni offers all that apply the tools presented the way back to the ability to laugh too enjoy moments seemingly boring and uneventful Desteni offers substance to fill the experience of emptiness we all carry inside ourselves filling ourselves with ourselves making ourselves to become substantial, practical, and physical beings. Thus I am the example that our childhood cant be lost it can only be forgotten though its our responsibility to bring ourselves back to life to end the existence of ourselves as lost in a mind lost in thinking lost in feeling lost in perceiving lost in believing and first and foremost lost in FEAR though all of these mental delusions can be deleted and what can be placed in its stead is actual self-experience, and actual self-expression this is something that mustnt be missed out on though its up each and everyone we all have free choice we either birth ourselves yet again, or we remain stagnant until we finally run dry and die. Life is waiting for you to take it upon yourself to bring yourself back from the dead what are you waiting for?

Viktor Persson is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/20

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LARYS KAZIUKONIS
http://laryskaziukonis.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/2012-why-could-i-hear-the-desteni-message/

22 January 2012 How come I was able to hear the Desteni message, and why I am now actively involved with working for solutions for this world with Desteni? This is going to be a pretty interesting thing to write for me, to have a look back on how did I came to where I am at the moment, so lets have a look. I will firstly have a general look on how I stumbled on Desteni, why I did investigated it and how that went, and then Ill look at the reasons from my own life experience that influenced me to get interested. Desteni what was Desteni at the time when I started to watch the interviews back then on YouTube and reading some articles, while also looking at the forum? It wasnt as established as it is right now, and there were less people involved then now. The people who participated openly were mostly (but not only) people that have visited the farm. Back then the YouTube channels of Desteni were really full of videos, I mean the main channel had like 1 500 videos, not even mentioning the channels of people actively putting out content on the web from Desteni, and other not main Desteni channels. I had stumbled couple of times on the videos of Sunette speaking through the Portal back then few times but I havent really noticed what was being said, I just perceived it as one of the people talking about the new age topics probably wanting to sell something, or promote themselves as self-proclaimed gurus (as it is usually with the new age people). What really struck me, and caught my attention for the first time was a simple video from the DesteniProductions channel, which was about the Law of Attraction. The video was consisting of some text mixed with pictures with a background music (very simple video) it was about how someones positive thinking creates both the good and the bad, and that its relevant to always look at both sides of the equation. After that I started to look at all their other material, because this one video has made more sense to me then all the videos on the law of attraction that I have seen before all together, and as I followed with watching the content presented by Desteni I found that their other content makes a lot of sense as well. And it took me some time from there on to grasp what was being presented and shared, and what Desteni even is because at first I didnt even understood who or what they are. But at
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that time I already developed a habit to constantly play something in the background when playing video games or doing other stuff that didnt absorbed my attention to much like audio books, videos etc. so I simply done it in the same manner as I did with other material I used to go through. And that pretty much helped me a lot, because Desteni message, and what is being shared is not something one can understand just by watching one or two videos. But going back to the point of why have I heard the message. There were few things that stand out now as I look at it, that I can pinpoint as why I have taken the red pill (because that is what Desteni stands for at the moment in this world). One of them was the freaking common sense in every freaking video, text or recording. I could see that it makes sense, and it specifically was something that hit me by that time. And it made sense from the context of earth meaning the reality. I was always interested in things out of the ordinary (which was another reason why I was intrigued by Desteni) and Desteni message was earthed, it was something that I could for the most part relate to reality and find it practical and useful in terms of it fitting the context of earth and the reality I know here. That is something I have never experienced in any of the spiritual teachings, or whatever else regarding any kind of strange phenomenas, religions, and all kinds of teachers or channelers. So in this regard Desteni message was absolutely superior to any kind of esoteric teachings and believe me, I have went through, studied and tried to apply many. Now the next reason why I heard the message, was certainly the point of my own life experience. And in the area of my own life experience there has been few points that made me to really get interested and research Desteni. One was the usual reason why everyone looks for answers in spirituality my life hadnt worked out as I wanted to and I have been faced with difficulties which made me to look for other ways of living, made me to question many things in my reality, and to want to understand how and why things are as they are. The second reason is that by that time my life got into shit. Meaning that what I planned had went to a stop, and my life got twisted upside down. That was accompanied with me letting go of a lot of beliefs that I have hanged to at that time. Because before I found Desteni I started to walk quite a process alone for a while where I started to question a lot, and through that also my life changed and a lot of things that worked, stopped to work, and in a way, I had to totally reassemble my life and learn/start from the beginning. But however that might sound I have never regretted that I went into the direction of change because for the first time in my life I was starting to see how things work for real, and that I could actually move/
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change myself and my world. And I simply went there. Now why or how I got to that point is obviously because in my own life many things didnt worked as I wanted, so I wasnt a complete slave in terms of how I perceived the world meaning that difficulties in life caused me to question things, as I couldnt accept them as they are, as I myself have experienced the reality of how some of the things are totally fucked up currently. Third one was that I had contact with a person who had experiences with demons, and I knew that he wasnt lying and that there was nothing wrong with the persons sanity. And what I have learned from that person, was that demons arent bad. And the person was (even though being visited or attack by the demons) not someone afraid of demons, actually hes opinion on angels and the apparently good beings was negative, and that they are deceptive. Which made me question a lot, and looking at demons and evil generally with quite a different perspective. And also that made me to look at evil and my own inner demons differently. And Desteni was the first source I found regarding demons, where they werent just presented as evil, which for me was more accurate, because I knew someone who have presented me a very similar idea of demons. Now you might think, that its silly to be interested in some demons or some other esoteric-like phenomena just because knowing someone who had such experiences and spoke about them. But what was the reason why I got so intrigued was that the person I have knew that was having those experiences with demons, was pretty unusual in his approach to life, and had lived differently then many people in terms of the way of how he would consider things and look at them. You would say that the depth of how he looked at things and investigated them was definitively above normal which was for me quite striking. Which is shortly why have I taken and investigated the demon thing seriously I simply had seen the difference that was physical, real, here. And this gets me to the next very important, and That was the most relevant reason why I listened to the interviews, and why I was quite blown away with the rawness, honesty and bluntness of what is being said. So that would basically be the overview of the main reasons why I have heard the Desteni message. Obviously its a very short and concise view, so some things may not be clear in terms of the whole story and all the consequential facts that led to one another. But its what Im conscious of here and now, and that I can share here.

Larys Kaziukonis is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/145

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MIKE LAMMERS
http://mikesprocess.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

24 January 2012
You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire; you build egos the size of cathedrals; fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse; grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, goldplated fantasies, until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own God and where can you go from there? "Al Pacino in the Devils Advocate"

I used to believe monsters where hiding under my bed (they actually did). I believed my father was the smartest man in the world and my mother the sweetest mom. I believed I could run as fast as the six million dollar man and that my sword fights were as impressive as those of Rutger Hauer. I believed I could climb like a monkey. Those kind of things I checked out for myself. I would discover quickly if what I believed was true or false simply by going trough the experience. Learning and getting educated is how I learned to make believe. Getting to know the way things work in the world not why. Learning the basics of the system and getting my brains washed like the religious rituals I had to participate within as a child. I prayed the holy father a lot of times not knowing what the hell I was saying. School started the big load down. The 'god' seed was planted early and I was on my way in the garden of eden. At some point I gave up. The statement could have been like this. I will bow and accept your world. I will believe what you tell me and try to do as you say. I will go down your road of believes and perceptions. I will climb your tree of knowledge and information. I will not resist the fact you institutionalize me. I will go to your schools. I will form relationships as seen on TV. I will eat sleep and work the way you do to the best of my abilities. I will try my best to play along the personality games. I will forget who I was, were I came from and I will try not ask too many questions. I will probably reproduce and teach my children to do the same. Now leave me alone and let me suppress myself.
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I believed in god, Jezus, 'my homeboys', punk, anarchy, violence, deception, manipulation, girls, sex, drugs, sport, addictions, friendship, good, bad, positive, negative, prophets, avatars, light, energy, holographic universes, new age, old school, quantum mechanics, love, spirituality, ascension, meditation, yoga, mystery schools, sufism, veda's, budism, theosophy, etc. etc. I did a fair share of searching for truth and did not avoid certain experiences if you know what I mean. It's a long story. 'How I was Able to Hear the Desteni Message?' It implies that one cannot hear the message. You have to be 'Able' first before you can hear. Interesting. Sounds almost religious doesn't it? How I was Abel and Cain was not. I have been searching for so called 'truth' all my life. I wanted to understand God, this world, myself, my parents, friends, humanity. My place in the universe. There had to be a code or a message fore nothing made sense except chaos. I had to believe in a A God because it gave me something abstract outside myself. Something bigger than me. I 'fell' in love with al my knowledge and I started to build a hell of an ego to manage all that self-love that was so abundantly flowing from within me. I used to be convinced there where great 'mystical' powers working for me in the realms of this world. I was spiritual, physical, healthy, sporty and one 'fine' day I had this out of body, kundalini, whatever the fuck you want to call it experience where reality sort of expanded into this timeless holographic white light. I was without form or sense of time. Oh It was so 'life changing and overwhelming'. Beyond words and al that other bullshit definitions that come out when I become possessed and cannot voice myself. Interesting I said, "I Wanted to understand God" which implies I didn't. I apparently allowed myself to switch believes from one moment to the next without taking any 'self'-responsibility for it? And we all do this. We all walk this earth projecting bullshit at each other thus making the world a projection of ourselves as that ever changing bullshit we are as our minds. Reality has become a self created concept of chaos and destruction and I kept on blaming others for it.Humanity has become brand names, brand value, loyalty and believe-systems. An infinite loop of advertisements for limitations we accept as our reality. I know one or two things about advertising and I can tell you "reality is worse than you think". What makes me hear the Desteni message? Seeing myself as part of reality is one of the points. This reality is All Dollah. Allhu akbar. God is great from the moment time began and our innocent ego's started battling for supremacy. You don't have to be 'intelligent' or 'enlightened' to see this shit. Just look around? It's written in history as our children are taught. It's programmed into every molecule we genetically alter. Unfortunately or in other words us,another fortune later. Truth stares us in the face all the time.
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Someone asked me to take that honest look. Who is God in this world? What creates this world?So I looked from all perspectives and all the viewpoints showed me money. So yeah well eh, money does! Since time began the only thing we do is battle for more. And if money rules the world instead of God then where is God? And if god is not here then what the fuck happened in heaven? Time to find some answers. I started investigating Desteni. That's what I did. Try to find the flaws. Assume the worst. It's a cult. A bunch of brilliant freaks. They are on the internet so if anything, they will be exposed. However the more I investigated the more I was blown away by the rawness and honesty I faced. Real People, real names sharing themselves, exposing their secret mind shit openly for all to see and learn. Never in my whole life did I encounter this overwhelming raw honesty as it was sharedamongst Destonians. It was confronting and almost scary. I was blown away. This was historic. Why doesn't the whole world know about this? Where was the media? Like I said; reality is worse than we think.Loosing all religion made me feel rather exposed. Naked as you will. Loosing all self definition is not a comfy happening. My realizations where mindblowing. I was able to Hear the Desteni Message becauseI saw that there isone 'simple' principle that rules them 'all'. - 1 principle beyond, separation, beyondreligion, science and money - 1 principle to base all our thoughts on - 1 principle to base all our actions on - 1 principle without exclusivity, without ego - 1 principle that includes all and thus = best for all - 1 principle as the solution to the cause of our problem which is separation - 1principle that forces one to be self honest and take self responsibility As al the 'prophets said "Love thy neighbor". The principle of Equality stands as the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so fuck me god. This principle made me hear the Destine message.None are free until all are free. How can I accept anything else? How can I accept myself within separation within believes, religion. My relyons. Seeing that the principle of equality implies 'all' is hard to grasp at times. It's also simple. Creation=All=Equal or nobody is. It implies a lot because it implies all of us. Total transformation. The system has a word to counteract the fact you might realize we as humanity have an option. That word is 'utopia'.The amount of hate that is projected towards Desteni is fascinating and proves
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beyond doubt that there is something happening. People react very strangely to the truth. I said it before,reality is worse than your nightmares. I'm walking with Desteni for about 2 years now. Having applied the tools I have for instance been able to stop addictions like weed and smoking. I have seen myself existing as thoughts emotions and feelings unable to control myself at the same time realizing it's not me. I'm not these thoughts emotions and feelings. I got myself out of a seriously deep depression without consulting a doctor or therapist. I was only using the tools Desteni presents. I pushed myself more than I can ever remember doing. I got a very refreshing look into the world of relationships and sex. I'm becoming more and more aware of my ego as the mind trying to tear me apart. Never silent always on as this is a process within every breath. I continue to walk and fall. To stand up again and slowly discover who I really am as Life. I script myself and push myself to walk myself into a human being that will honor Life as the physical. Here in every moment asking myself time and time again. Am I here? The world will wake up to the Desteni message, It's not how it's when. Destonians show the effectiveness of the tools that are shared and researched within thousands of blogs and vlogs. No pseudo's, all under real names for you to read and investigate becausewe don't want to lose the precious time we have. We all go or no go... Desteni is the real deal butdont believe a word I'm saying! Investigate for yourself. I dare you to ask the questions you never dared to ask. See fore yourself that love is not all that matters but all matter or love does not exist!

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DEEDRA CHAVEZ
Part 1 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuRPynslEkc Part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIsHDkweJRk

05 February 2012 Part 1 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuRPynslEkc

Part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIsHDkweJRk

Deedra Chavez is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/40

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VALENTIN ROZMAN
http://valentinrozman.blogspot.com/2012/01/2012-how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni.html

24 January 2012 My path of intensive self-realisation started in year 2000, when my first girlfriend with whom I lived together for 3 years left me on my big surprise. I was left in my own apartment, with recently started own business of graphic design andphotography, so I had a lot of time and motivation to start a research what is going on in people's heads. In the next 10 years I read hundreds of books on human relations, psychology, afterlife, spirituality, religion, new age, healing and metaphysics, visited many spiritual teachers, gurus, healers, religious groups and attended numerous seminars, camps, gatherings, fairs and related events. Thus I accumulated a lot of knowledge, experiences and realisations. It was in fall of 2009 when I had a terrible accident while returning from a business meeting in late night. In darkness I overlooked an escarpment, fall very hard on mystomach, and punched my spleen. Theyimmediately put me on surgery and removed my spleen. I was one of the lucky ones who had two spleens, so I had no problems by removing one of them. For 2 weeks I recovered in the hospital and then I continued with the healing process at my home. While recovering on sofa in my living room, I amused myself with searching and watching for new age content on the net. One day, while I was browsing spiritual videos on YouTube I stumbled upon very unusual videos. There was some young figure, age about 20 with short blond hair, who spoke in video interviews and deeply exhaled and inhaled in the beginning and at the end of every video interview. Strange was also that this person used different name each time when introduced himself in the beginning of the video, right after first deep exhalation and inhalation. What attracted me the most was the message that came through this interviews. It explained a lot of thing about dimensionalexistence, aliens, chakras, angels, demons, gods and the history of universe and human race. The message was very common sensical to me and explained more in detail everything about hisexistenceand afterlife than every book or video that I read and watched so far. I became obsessed with watching this video interviews and

watched them for several months, from morning to evening. There were thousand of them and I consumed them with great pleasure. I noticed that this videos were from the same YouTube channel and that all had a web address at the end of the video, directing to Desteni web site. So after hundres hours of watching this Desteni videos, I decided to check the web site in order to see who was producing them. I found there even more interesting written material and the forum. I registered on Desteni forum, introduced myself and started the communication with the people there. They introduced me with the process of writing and self-honesty, so slowly it was also I who started to produce blogs and vlogs and begun sharing my and Desteni contend on the FaceBook. Many however reacted to shared Desteni material extensively and this is for several reasons. Some did not have enough experiences to compare the information and see that Desteni is about equality and what is best for all, and there were also thelight workers, rainbowwarriors and religious fanatics, who preferred to hold onto their own beliefs and self-created good feelings and did not want to understand what was the core problem for all the suffering in this world. I time I slowly begun to understand, that only few people will be able to grasp the Desteni message and join the joint effort of establishing Equal Money System that will guarantee a dignified life for all living beings on this planet equally. I am very thankful to Bernard, Sunette, Esteni, Andrea and all others who started the research and initiated the process of applying effective and practical solutions for the problems in this world. And I invite all the people who have at least one pinch ofcompassion left in them, to join people from all over the world who stand up strong and firm for equality and what is best for all. Stop living in alternative reality of your mind, become a Destonian, start breathing, bring yourself here and become one and equal with all life! Valentin Rozman is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/87

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ELEONORA GOZZINI
http://eleonoragozzini.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/2012-why-did-i-decide-to-walk-with-desteni/

24 January 2012 I have asked this question to myself several times, especially at the beginning of this process, mainly because I perceived process to be a chore, something that would have taken everything from me in terms of commitment and application, something that, coming from a Catholic, background, I first associated with atonement, penance self-flagellation style and I resisted it with a passion (passion=suffering ). The first reason that brought me to Desteni was FEAR, I had developed an utter Fear for this reality realizing that nothing was what it seemed and that the awakening was not at all what it was cracked up to be, the awakening was just waking up to the utter abuse and destruction that was going on in this world, starting from myself. My first post on the Desteni Forum said do you people realize how much Fear you are spreading with your message ??, and I meant it in CAPITAL LETTERS, because this is what I felt when I found them, I had woken up in a reality that was far from Love and Light, I had tried to slide back into my positive thinking stance unsuccessfully and then Desteni, after hearing their message at first I even went to a Shaman, to try to take their message out from me, like a curse, I had been cursed into self responsibility and now the curse and not my refusal to stand up -was eating up my Life. In one clear sentence, I moved into Desteni with much resistance, NOT to the message but to the task, I hated the idea of having to become Self responsible, first because I was not even close to believing I could EVER be a Self Responsible being, second because so much of me was invested (and so much money was spent) in support of utter bullshit that made me feel good that I perceived Desteni would be my undoing, in terms of stability, I perceived that while I had always walked the thin line of crazy, if I did join them that would be it, I would turn into a total nutter. The first reply I got from one of the people on the Forum was we are NOT spreading Fears, Humanity has been living in fear forever, we are merely pointing this out, dont shoot the messenger
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But I knew different, when I would listen to Bernards vlogs, his voice scared the shit out of me (only later I saw he literally scared MY fear/shit OUT OF ME), its interesting to look back now because I kept going back for more, some of his messages I couldnt even understand, it was like I lacked a common sense vocabulary to HEAR what he was really saying never mind understanding the purpose of why he was saying what he said in such a passionate way. I brought my polarity mindset all the way into Desteni, I would listen to Bernard and get scared shitless and utterly terrified and then I would listen to Sunette Spies and find some balance again, it was like the bad cop good cop game, one gave it to me typhoon style, the other helped me pick up the pieces after the devastation I perceived in the post-Bernard moments, at the time Sunette was almost always expanding on the brief shocking vlogs of Bernard and I found I wanted both, the shock and the leniency of the aftershock. I pushed myself to go through the material, I had already realized I was a system and many of my studies were in that direction, in fact a specific direction, why a system cant change, what is the driving force behind all of this existence, because I could actually see myself switching personalities and being driven into action, words, thoughts by them, I was a car at full speed with no one at the driving seat. Not to talk about Equal Money, in fact at the beginning Equal Money was my biggest bugaboo, I didnt understand it, I didnt see how it could be possible, I just received it as a mere wish to put on my wish list of unattainable things. One day I read on the Forum you cannot understand Equal Money without Self Forgiveness and Self Honesty, this too took me a while to place into a contest I could first understand and then experience. Given my background brainwashing I carried huge resistance for the Self Forgiveness approach, I read everything offered about it, I tried to clear the Self Forgiveness tool through self forgiveness, but the lists of Self Forgiveness on the Forum looked disturbing, like selfflagellation in action, exposing all of yourself for a life review for which you took the blame, for which you declared how faulty and disgusting you had been. I joined in, I had my own list to share, it felt humbling and even humiliating at times, I was nowhere close to feeling good through process even though by then I had understood that feelings and emotions were polarity expressions of the Mind, I still longed to feel good because feeling good had been my driving quest for over 20 years, this was a bit of a hard habit to kick but the freer I become from feelings and emotions the more stable I perceive myself, no longer on the swing from
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feeling bad to feeling good, what a bloody relief ! It took me a while to understand Self Forgiveness in itself, in general I can say it took me a while to understand the process because its only recently that I got it as a point I have actually walked into through self directing myself to just STOP for real, and thats when I got it and saw some changes because it was never about the blame and about self-flagellation, nope, that was what I was doing before process, it was about standing up and stopping it all, Self Forgiveness was the delete/reset button of the system, for-giving me back to me from the separation I had allowed and accepted as me, because it was such separation that made me sick and self abusive, because separation implies you dont want to take back ALL of you into you and correct it, because you still hold extensive judgements about Yourself that you have not yet forgiven, integration and wholeness cannot happen in self judgement, self forgiveness was the self judgement/others judgement removal tool, it was to clean the slate for real, so I could rewrite on a blank slate who I want to be, what I want to support, what do I stand for. As well self forgiveness gave me a tool to stop abusing myself and others, a tool that I am still using because as a system much in me is still automated in the process of being corrected, at the beginning of this process I made a few miss-takes, I had just switched polarity, I went from an absolute positive thinker to a lousy negative wreck, looking at myself like if I were the scum of the earth until I realized, I have not yet left the building, the Matrix, its about getting out of this construct as me, the Mind, because within the Mind I exist ONLY in polarity, there is no chance for me to wrestle my mind to the ground, I have to embrace me, not what I thought about me, not what I believed about me, but embrace me the thinker, the emotional reactor, embrace the separation until it dissolves and I can equalize myself inside with the outside. Just recently process has become easier for me, I finally got it, its the very opposite of selfflagellation, its about stopping the self-flagellation by for-giving myself and from there start to walk self honestly no longer in self-interest but with a leading principle, to consider all existence, One and Equal to myself. I can say looking back that this was what self honesty and self forgiveness did for me, they made me realize how much hate I had for myself, for the way I lived and the words I spoke and my interactions with others, only when I saw it exposed clearly I could begin to stop. Its about stop believing that I am more because I feel less or feeling less and then desiring to be more, when I breathe and I am Equal to everything and everyone else, the struggles fall, the mind tantrums stop and I catch a break, and its in these breaks that I caught because of
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what Desteni taught me that I have started to Breathe again. Literally. The reason why I stuck with them is because even when I was a demented addict I could not discount their message, its so simple, give what you would like to receive, embrace all Life as You and you will be All Life, One and Equal, whats there to NOT SUPPORT in the Message of Equality? Ultimately I stuck with Desteni because nothing else made sense, if the message doesnt include Oneness and Equality it cannot be real, if we are One we must be Equal, if we are Equal we must be One, all the other teachings are just lip service to the religion of self in self-interest and in separation from everything that exists. So for those drawn to Desteni that fear like I did about what you will lose, what you will have to give up, the answer is NOTHING, NO THING you will give up was ever real, NO THING you will give up was ever useful and best for all, in fact those were the very things that kept us enslaved, separation is a bitch, its through separation that we got where we are today, if we had remembered our Oneness and Equality we would have never done to each other what we did. Some parts of us are struggling and suffering, it doesnt need to be this way, we can give ourselves back to ourselves to become the whole that is One and Equal to Life, the suffering must stop inside each one of us, the wars, the conflicts, the blame, the hatred, when we begin to realign to what is best for all we stop all delusions of separations and we HEAL and the world Heals one and Equal to us. Equal Money is just the next common sense step, it was born out of looking for a way to uplift the One and Equal with one strategic common sense move, giving Equal Access to Money, the Living God that grants access to all resources, to everyone Equally, it would be the fastest easiest way to accomplish this because the infrastructures are already in place, its the source/value of the Money system that must change, when Money Equals Life and Life becomes the Capital that invests in the planet thats when real change can happen, profit wont be based in self-interest anymore, profit will be what each of us will receive for our investment in Life One and Equal, we will all live in abundance and we will be proud of the world we will have built and will leave behind. Dont leave Money to your children and your loved Ones, leave them a Better World, that is Real Love in Action that considers the Best for All in Equality and Oneness. Support the practical solution that will bring all the pieces back together, Stand up for Life One and Equal.

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ARVYDAS PLATAKIS
http://arvydasplatakis.wordpress.com/2012/01/28/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message/

28 January 2012 When I first encountered Desteni message, I immediately understood that these guys are not joking and since that day I never really doubted or shifted away from what the group was doing and where it was going. Now when I am facing many beings in my world I keep wondering how on earth they are not able to hear the message. Thus I must probably look at my life and see what events in my life had led me to the point where I was able to hear. Probably one of the main points that was influencing my life was that within me I decided that I will never accept this world system as it is now. I could see how people in time were making peace with the limitations placed upon them and how they accepted the belief that they are small, insignificant beings who are not able to stand equal to the perceived powers of the world. Within that I was exploring my reality and I was always interested in how it actually works. One big eye opener for me was getting a glimpse into the world of politicians the ones on whom all people place their trust and basically their lives. I was quite shocked when I saw what kind of people they really are. I have seen the complete self-interest that they exist in and as and how they disregard completely the average human being. And the question I kept asking myself was: is this the people who are in control of my life? Obviously I could not go on just living like the rest of the people, working, paying taxes and feeding this system and the abusers who are in control. Another similar point was having a mother who is a chief doctor in an outpatient department, which again is considered by most people a very important role to be in. I could see how people trust the healthcare professionals blindly and never question this trust. Yet living with one of them I had another view and I saw behind the curtains. I was amazed at the level of blindness of people and the level of abuse of this trust done by doctors. I saw the role of corporations in this and of course behind it all money. So, simply speaking I could see that this world is one big fuck up and making peace with all
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what I was seeing was never an option. Still within that I never actually knew the way out. So I worked with what was available in my immediate world, eventually I became interested in drugs and later spirituality, which seemed to me as a possibility to get out. I became especially interested in the stories about the masters of old days where they apparently had the ability to leave this physical reality, travel interdimensionally, manifest the food, etc as they pleased. Obviously this was appealing to me because that would mean I dont have to slave myself and accept this tiny existence that most people believe is the only way to be. I would observe old people in my family and within that I was more than certain that I am not willing to end up in this way. I could see that generation after generation the same bullshit just continues and actually becomes ever worse. So, later after some years of trial and error I was becoming more and more disillusioned with all the information that I was able to find regarding the secret knowledge of the old. I tried in many ways to become free yet always at the end of the day I had to find a way to earn money and feed myself. I still kept believing that I wasnt committed enough to apply myself as the masters command and thus I kept working on myself in vain. So basically no matter what i tried this current system of money was superior in all ways and I was bound to participate in it and support it. And so it went on like that until I accidentally stumbled upon one of the destenis videos where I saw an interdimensional being sharing his experience from afterlife. In this video Osho, a former spiritual leader, was sharing his experience after he crossed over to the dimensions. I knew Oshos life on earth very well as I have listened to all his interviews that I could find. So as Osho was sharing his life after death I was able to connect the dots and I could see that it was actually him speaking and although the interdimensional portal was a young girls body I could still see that his essence of who he was on earth still remained. It was immediate click within me and after hearing more interviews from portal and later visiting the Desteni forum I was completely convinced about the truthfulness that was shared. The message was so clear and basically answered all my questions and finally put all the missing puzzle pieces together. The search for answers was over, I saw and understood that from here the responsibility is on me. Desteni has provided with the tools of self-transformation. These tools are very practical down to earth tools and can be easily applied by each. And up to this moment I am walking this process of self-transformation. I can see that it will take a long time to stop all the bullshit that exists within me, yet I am committed and I have also proven to myself in many instances that the change is possible. Arvydas Platakis is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/31
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JUNE ROCA
http://juneroca.com/2012/01/26/how-i-was-able-to-hear-destenis-message/

26 January 2012 The message of Desteni is really simple and common sensical. It is straight to the point. Its a message that requires one to take self-responsibility for/as all LIFE .This is selfrealization in a nutshell. I was indoctrinated that self-realization comes from a guru, so i did not really know how this process of self-perfection canbe done practically. It was so difficult for me to understand when i started looking at it (2006 or start of 2007). I watched the videos of Destenion the internet day in and day out (about 8 hrs a day or more) trying to understand how i can apply this process . I had been a yogi for 29 yrs. I had friends in the group for that long and was a senior member of that group. It was not easy to let go of all that but i eventually did and i am glad i did. Most of them are still my Facebook friends as i write. I had been investigating many groups that taught about the subject of self-realization. I believed that the REAL SELF is something that can only be attained by surrendering to the guru who i defined as someone more knowledgeable than me who can give me liberation from bondage. I believed i cannot do it myself because i am powerless as the ego . This was what the spiritual texts said so i took it as my truth.That was my biggest mistake.I did not consider the fact that i am Life itself. Meditating on a mantra ( a combination of Sanskrit words which means I am that ) gave me bliss, but i was totally unaware of what i was doing. I was just doing meditation because it gave me bliss which can also be a belief that i manifest as i believed i will get bliss when i meditate. I was taught surrendering to the guru is a way of liberating me from the ego not realizing that that is the ego within judgment, where i see the guru more than me someone who i had to surrender to . I did not see that i was actually judging him. When in a state of bliss (mind created) it was difficult to see the mess in Life. It was easy to just live day in and day out doing what I normally do and not change. Why change when I defined change as uncomfortable? I was comfortable in just doing yoga, meditation and
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chanting. I was blissful so why should i change? It was in 2006 when i started to do a website about Universal Love and Peace . I was trying to unite different spiritual groups believing that i can change this world if i do that. What i did not realize was that i was doing it from a point of separation (from/as life). The decision to do self-forgiveness came when I read a letter from Osho from the interdimensional portal telling me that this is indeed impossible as i was doing it from a point of separation. I did not quite understand the letter then, but when i started self-forgiveness, it all made sense to me. It was when i was reading the Veno self-forgiveness list aloud that i understood what Desteni meant that i participated in the creation of how this world functions through my acceptances and allowances. I was diagnosed with 4th stage breast cancer in 2008 so i was able to test the selfforgiveness fully at that point. I did self-forgiveness for fear of death, identification with the body etc. I looked at the commonsense of what was in front of me death. I can either die or transcend death. I took it as a way to know who i really am. I was told by my doctors that there were no guarantees that i will live so irefused chemotherapy and radiation.I had surgery because my breast was growing ten-fold. The surgeon told me horrible stories of people who refused chemotherapy who died with rotting breasts wherein their relatives refused to even see them so they died alone. The surgeon told me after the operation that hes pleased with the result of the operation. He was surprised to see that there were no new growths. He told me that normally, a week after the operation, growths reappear. After a year, i got a blood test and it was normal. After the operation, i got separated and then got divorced a year later. I lived alone for 2 and 1/2 yrs. after that and decided to devote my time to my process. That was a point in my life where the only thing that made sense was self-forgiveness and self correction. I can truly say that this process assisted me in seeing that it was possible to direct myself and birth myself here for real. When i enrolled at the Desteni I Process course in 2010i was taught how to do a mind construct. I was able to do a food mind construct , a beauty and sex mind construct. I was able to see how i designed my beliefs, judgments etc. within food, sex and beauty. That was when i understood how i accepted and allowed myself to become who i am and how i can direct myself to let go of that limited perception of myself and birth me here as Self as LIFE. That was a relief . To me that was a gift of life.
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That was when i heard the Desteni message. After i was able to see the commonsense in the process i was doing, I began looking at the Equal Money System. I translated the EMS from English to Filipino. When i was reading the texts thati was going to translate, i was impressed by the simplicity and commonsense behind it. The BIG Basic Income Grant is already being adopted by some countries which makes it a viable starting point, and from there, the Equal Life Party will begin running in mainstream politics with a platform of establishing Equal Money for All. No guru has offered a real solution like this one -witha timetable specified of 10 years for its establishment. I suggest people look at this. This is the real answer that we have been waiting for.

June Roca is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/169

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LEILA ZAMORA MORENO

http://ylaww.blogspot.com/2012/01/finding-my-desteni-how-i-was-able-to.html

31 January 2012 I remember the day that I first got into contact with Desteni. I was sitting in my sisters room, browsing around on her laptop. I was bored, and decided to look for some videos on YouTube. At that time, my brother, sister and I were very much into spirituality and conspiracy theories (sister to a lesser extent), and at that time specifically, we were into orgone energy. So I looked around for some orgone energy videos (we had been making some orgone pyramids) to see if I could find some new info that I hadnt found before, get some more excitement out of it. As I was watching one of the orgone videos on YouTube, I noticed a peculiar thumbnail on the right side by the featured videos. I clicked on it and started watching the video. I thought the whole breathing in and out at the start of the video was a bit weird, but I continued watching. As the person was talking through the video I found that he was speaking a bit weird. And I mean, Wilhelm Reich was supposed to be dead, so how was he going to be giving an interview on YouTube even better an interview on YouTube as a 14 year old boy. I thought, Man, poor child, he must have been forced by his parents to memorize this script and then say it out loud to a camera for it to be uploaded on YouTube. But then, as the video went on, I realised that the way the person in the video was speaking, behaving was just too natural to match my idea of some abused teenager who was forced to memorize a ten minute script. I was quite intrigued with the video and wanted to find out more, so I went to check out his YouTube channel. There I saw that the channel had more than 500 videos uploaded, which in my eyes confirmed that this could not have been a force case. I also went to check out the website at the end of the video and I couldnt find anything related to money or making money out of the videos they were doing. I couldnt grasp why someone would be faking 500 videos for no money so I decided that either this persons a complete nutcase or must be very passionate and driven about something (and 500+ videos, thats something very
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admiring in terms of someones dedication). I checked out some more videos and they all made sense to me. I then also visited the forum and found out the person in the video was a 24 year old female (Oopsie!), I introduced myself and continued absorbing all the videos and articles. The videos about the Mind Consciousness System and how thoughts and images feed and energize your mind made a lot of sense to me. You see, a few months, maybe a year, before I got all into spirituality, I basically made myself be somewhat anorexic. Throughout my life I had always been fascinated by anorexic girls and how they had the willpower to abstain from food (I mean, I LOVE FOOD). Then the one day, I was watching a documentary on tv about some anorexic girls, which give a pretty good picture of their thought patterns, as those became apparent during the interviews with them. So then I thought, Hey, instead of anorexia happening to me like a disease, I could just manage my thoughts, and deliberately think the way they do, and manage it that way!. This might sound very weird, but I was very bored with my life at that time, and I was looking for a goal, something to achieve, a purpose to give my life direction. So then, thats what I did. I found it very exciting to play this secret game, always having to make sure my family wouldnt take notice in this change of lifestyle that I had adopted. I started losing a lot of weight and getting a lot of compliments from the people around me. I absolutely loved it. At times when I was down I would take my diary and write out my managed thoughts, to kind of force them into reality and surprisingly it worked! I found that writing was very effective in terms of re-enforcing the behaviour that I was looking for within myself. Id also flip through fashion magazines, keep a scrap book where I kept the best model pictures and when I was really having a dip or a bad day in terms of not eating food, Id take one of the images and re-draw them in my diary. I got so good at constantly forcing myself to think about losing weight and calories and exercising -- that it just became an automated part of me and I didnt have to deliberately do it anymore it had just become me. So when I came to the point where I was like Fuck, this is getting out of hand (I was very drowsy, feeling nauseas, sometimes feeling like I was about the faint), Ive got to stop this. I tried, but then I noticed how this whole new behaviour had just taken over and I had lost control. The thoughts, the pictures in my head they just kept coming! I eventually got over it, but it took a whole long while to get there. So when I was watching the Desteni videos on how you program yourself with your thoughts,
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how you motivate your mind with pictures = I knew that the information that the being in the video was sharing was true, because I had experienced (and enforced it) first hand So I just knew that Desteni was the real shit, and as I went along with the new videos it just kept on being re-confirmed. I also knew the power writing had, so I started to use it for the first time to actually assist myself (instead of breaking myself down). Since then, Ive been able to live a lot more satisfying life. Desteni teaches you how to take control over your own inner-world, teaches you to appreciate yourself and stand for something real. I did not have to look for a goal or a purpose anymore, it was right here it was Desteni.

Leila Zamora Moreno is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/28

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MICHELLE MULCRONE
http://michellemulcrone.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

04 February 2012 When I first found Desteni, I was heavily into spirituality. I had read numerous books on psychic predictions, angels, channelings, aliens and the afterlife itself. I had met a guy online who had similar interests like me and he was the one who introduced me to Desteni. At first, while listening to Portal, I was scared because it was information I was not aware of, and the way the words were spoken and structured seemed strange to me. However, I found myself completely interested about what Desteni was talking about, and began watching several videos a night in my college dorm room. I also joined the forum, however, I never gave myself the opportunity to apply the practical tools Desteni suggests one to use. So I stopped watching the videos and reading the forum and 'continued' with my life, so to say. I dropped back into spirituality again and became involved with a man who believed to be Saint Germaine. He claimed I was his Twin Flame -- the ascended master Lady Portia -- and that really freaked me out. He talked about our specialness, how we have to save the Earth when 2012 hits, and that made me uncomfortable and didn't know why. It was during that time that I remembered the common sense from Desteni that we are all equal to one another; no one is more special or superior than another. So here I can see that Desteni's words were still within me, even though I was allowing myself to become deluded by this man. I stopped all communication from this man, but for some reason, I didn't want to let go of spirituality. So when I took a healing course with a psychic, she told me my past lives and great things about my 'bright' future as she sucked my wallet dry. I was completely hypnotized with her, but knew something wasn't right. Again, I questioned 'my bright future' because I remembered how Desteni exposed psychics and inequalities in this world and have pushed me to question how things are and work. I was basically in denial over what was going on with myself, because I knew the psychic was just being deceptive, so I decided to go back to Desteni to learn more. And so, as I began to read more of Desteni's material, I discovered how brainwashed we as human beings are due to many external and internal factors we have allowed
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to influence who we are. Also, because of Desteni, I was exposed to the seperation that exists between Man, due to religions, beliefs, and ego, all in which do not support us and is what is creating abuse in this world.Desteni has shown me the importance of changing oneself to that which is best for all, and that one has the ability to stopself abuse by stopping the participation ofthe Mind. It's a process, but I amwalking through itby taking the Desteni I Process (which I find to be enjoyable) and utilizing the tools Desteni provides, which isself forgiveness,self honestyand self corrective application. Desteni's words are very honest and straightforward and talk about what is going on in this world, in ourselves, and how we can solve our problems. There's no B.S. in their words because they are just direct and to the point, and it's refreshing. I suggest if you dare, to breathe and begin to read up on what Desteni is talking about. It took me many moments in my life to finally 'get' what Desteni was communicating about, and these realizations happen differently for everyone... but the point is that you get it and do something about it. Please check out Desteni.org .

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FIDELIS SPIES
http://fidelisspies.blogspot.com/2012/02/2012-how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni.html

04 February 2012 So Im the Portals brother. Ill start with a short history to show what kind of background we came from and how I knew without any doubt that the Desteni massage is real and a solution that everyone who wants to see change in this world must consider. I was born and raised a Christian along with my sisters. My original language is Afrikaans so we were a typical Afrikaans Christian family. I never bothered with sci-fi, paranormal, otherworldly stuff or looked for aliens. I simply didnt believe any of the stuff. I never even heard of mediums until I was 18. I never heard of ascension or the white light and knew nothing of new Age or spiritual masters. I didnt even believe in demons. Only that Satan makes us sin and Jesus forgives them. I was a typical afrikaaner who believed I will go to heaven if Im good and that God and Jesus loves me. If I looked back at my childhood and summed it up and looked at the overall experience it was really good. We were one of the lucky ones we had both parents who raised us well and were always in a stable environment. The death of our mother marked a change that affected us all in surprisingly different ways. For me I simply shut down and suppressed my feelings and suffered in silence. Basically I hid myself from others. It was then when I started to see that something is wrong with what I believed in. I still didnt wonder where I go when I die. I was either going to hell or cease to exist when I die. It didnt really give a shit. I knew one thing life is really messed up and there doesnt seem to be a way to make it any better. I met Bernard through sunette who was already living with the group for a while. What was fascinating about Bernard the first time I met him is that he gave a look - Like he could see inside me. Which I didnt like back then because I was an introvert hiding myself from others. I didnt want people to see me or know how I feel. But if I look at it now the real point was that I didnt even know what was really going on inside me. So the fact that he could see
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through me was very interesting. How can he know more about me than I do? So I would say that caused the first spark of curiosity and why I wanted to find out more. It was only after a few months of living with the group and back then the group was small and we didnt have a website yet that I started to get a glimpse of how trapped we really are and how limited as well. And how I knew nothing about myself and what I knew wasnt real lol. I was very sceptical about it all at first. But one thing I could not deny was that the fact that the portal was real. That my sister actually left her body and other beings came through into her body. I knew it was real because I know my sister. The words the beings spoke and all the things they shared it was impossible for her to know all of it because I grew up with her and never in our lives had we access to anything like it. We didnt even know about channelling. Another thing that fascinated me is that the beings could see right inside you and could explain in an instant in extreme detail points within me I never shared with anyone and some I wasnt even aware off. And to top it off they added support on how to deal with it - And to top that off in a way I could understand it and apply it. It was with these tools I got over my depression and faced many other points. And the perspectives each of the beings shared was amazing. It was shocking to learn how little we really knew. There is a massive problem in this world and nobody is even aware of it.We are all trapped in our own little bubbles. I remember Bernard asking a question How do we get people to listen to something they dont want to hear?. And that is what the group of Desteni have been busy with. Everyday consistently in whatever way spreading practical common sense. Back then it was a small group. This small group took me in and gave me support all the way and I have had the privilege to see it grow. And in the 5 years I have been participating I never came across any other group or answer that considered EVERYTHING. A solution for the human to become educated and self directed to never again be able to be manipulated or deceived by self or others. And solution for earth where we can live in a world were all beings are considered and we live by what is best for all. Another point about Desteni and the message of Desteni is that no matter what it always comes back to self. I have to make the change. I can test the information for myself. There was nobody I could blame. I could see that I was responsible for MYSELF. And that I had the power to change myself. That there is no higher power going to do it for me or some mighty saviour coming to save us from ourselves. If I wanted to live in a better world I am going to have to participate in the solution to make it happen.
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So how do we get people to listen to something they dont want to hear? How did I listen? I could see for myself it was the real thing. The portal is my sister after all. And I tested self forgiveness and self honesty for myself. If something works it works. No matter how hard I tried to hold on to my ideas and beliefs I could not hide from common sense. Desteni - Its like a slap-in-the-face-wakeup-call

Fidelis Spies is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/42

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JOSEPH NDUNGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnQLz2mmLA

23 January 2012

Joseph Ndundu is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/133

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DAVID DUNCAN
http://davidtduncan-lifeexpressions.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

05 February 2012

I discovered Desteni in October 2007, in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, while I was surfing the internet one night. At that time I was living with my Mum and younger sister, and in my spare time I would mostly spend it alone, either writing in a journal, reading, using the internet for hours and hours, listening to music, watching films and TV, and walking my dog Sally. I attribute my ability to being able to hear the Desteni message even if I only had a tiny fraction of understanding of what was being said - even though it took me a long time to begin to really grasp it to writing, reading, and questioning things since I was a teenager. I had a curiosity, and value within the point of integrity and being true to myself, (yet from a mind perspective, as I saw that to have integrity is to be true to who I THINK I am, because I knew nothing else) to explore questions such as: what is the real self? What happens when we die? What are ghosts, and near death experiences, etc. dont these things prove that we exist beyond what we define ourselves to be and who we think we are? Am I really the real me when I am with other people, or am I shifting into a fake personality that isnt real? Am I really who I think I am if I can change and give up the ideas I have of myself? Who am I really? I started writing when I was 16, writing almost every day, and gradually, the more I started investigating things, the more important these questions became in my life. I didnt want to live a life that isnt who I really am because then I would be living a lie. That seemed a waste and a very superficial way to live life. I didnt want to live a shallow, mediocre life of desire and transient pleasures that never last that seemed stupid, because you can see in everyone who has lived that kind of life that none of it brings real, lasting satisfaction. I shouldnt need anything like that. There has to be more to self than just being this empty, lonely shell, constantly looking for things on the outside to not feel so empty and alone. Early on, one of the most important points I looked at was that of realizing that I should be completely OK with being alone, of not needing anything separate as a point of stimulation or dependency in order to be fulfilled. I was angry that we all had the perception of being so empty within ourselves that we need to amass all of these things outside of ourselves in order
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to fill us up I realized early on that this is plain wrong we should be able to be completely fulfilled alone without the sense that were lacking something, and without dependence on anything or anyone else. If everyone did that then we would not have so many problems in this world which are a result of greed and always needing more and more. Yet I did all this as a personality, and I isolated myself into this personality this has brought consequence now - though at the time it felt right for the stage I was at. So soon afterwards my Mum introduced me to this book called A Course in Miracles. I started reading that and doing the lessons, but I didnt fully understand it. It helped in opening up some more understanding though, on the points I was working on at the time. I may have been looking into all of these big questions but I still continued to exist as a personality unquestionably, because I believed that this is just who I am as David, and this is the platform upon which I have to live life, as if there is no other way I didnt understand at that point that this who I think I am which is the EGO - is the very barrier to realizing what I was attempting to realize, which soon became God as is talked about in A Course in Miracles. If I am to become who I really am, then I cant drag along any of the false self with me I didnt see that. I am still coming to terms with this now! It all has to go. None of it is real. The ideas we have of ourselves in our head are the things that are not real not the physical existence as A Course in Miracles tries to explain. So I studied A Course in Miracles, and I also studied the related book The Disappearance of the Universe, and figured that I had everything worked out. Without reading and studying these books, and without all of the writing I did, I would have had no chance of hearing the Desteni message. A lot of what is written in those books is very useful in opening up your boundaries of what you think is possible within yourself were accustomed to thinking that we are just this idea of ourselves as a personality this one little point and that is it, like our entire existence and self is centred on this one little point but that is not true. The reality is that self exists far beyond this tiny little point that we have centred EVERYTHING upon, and that we have to wake up to get beyond this bullshit and see that we have entirely missed the point of what living is. I had a logical understanding that there is a source, or God, underneath all of these ego illusions, which is the real self, as one so I was able to understand what Desteni was talking about when they mentioned something similar: LIFE here as one and equal. That soon replaced my concept of God and Source. The difference is that LIFE is REAL oneness, not a concept of oneness that is like a mind version or simulation of it as bliss, light, and enlightenment that is not real because it is in separation to everything that is here. All of the spirituality concepts of oneness always exempt and separates itself from the physical here. None of it really ever indicates real care for other beings. Thats because
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it is all about the pursuit of happiness as the ego it never really gets beyond that point. But that was specific it wasnt ever meant to be about true self-realization it was designed specifically so that you remain trapped within your programmed pursuit of happiness as the mind. So I found Desteni while on the internet looking up shape-shifting reptilians. I was interested in that as well because I was also reading some of David Ickes work. I found a video on YouTube of George Bush Snr., where he is shape-shifting while talking on a TV programme eyes flickering weirdly, fangs suddenly appearing out of his mouth, etc. I was convinced for a minute. On the related videos bar, there was a video from Desteni that was one of the History of Mankind interviews done with Jack. So I looked at it and I was lost for words. Here is this 12 year old boy speaking all of these things that are completely out of this world and completely like nothing I had ever heard. From there I found the Jesus interviews, then all of the interviews done with famous people who had died, and I stayed up all night watching them. I went onto the Open Forum and started learning more. Gradually I let go of my idea that I knew everything already based on A Course in Miracles, realizing that oneness implies equality, and that there can be no separation from anything that exists. A Course in Miracles considers the physical reality to be an illusion created by the ego to protect itself from God, made out of fear of God. It considered God and real self to be beyond the physical. But that is separation. Real oneness includes EVERYTHING. So I saw that I was duped by A Course in Miracles, and that the oneness talked about in the book was not real oneness. Everything about oneness that is talked about and written in spirituality is also not real, so from that realization on, I was done with all kinds of spirituality for good. I saw that it is basically irrelevant, and that it is like an entertaining sideshow for people to feel good within and waste their life within false beliefs, or trying to attain a self-interested, ego concept of oneness or ascension, or whatever. It is the same disease that you see everywhere being consumed by your ego that only wants to feel good, have a nice life, ascend/become enlightened/etc., and forget about everything else. Thats not oneness in action. Thats not responsibility. Thats not being here with and as the earth, the animals, the people, the trees, the wind, the rivers, etc. Thats what we have to transcend, not allow ourselves to live as. I understood what Desteni shared on self-forgiveness also at least from a logical point of view - from what I had been reading in A Course in Miracles: the letting go of the illusions as ego that we have allowed ourselves to become, and within that letting go, opening up the space within us for real self to come in. I did start applying forgiveness on my thoughts, emotions, feelings, and realized that I felt relief while doing it. At that point I did not understand though the extent to which I have to let go of these things, and soon I realized that I have to
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challenge the very idea of myself as personality as David that I had isolated myself into, had trusted for so long, and had placed so much value into. So from there on I resisted greatly what Desteni was sharing went far beyond the point in which I felt I was comfortable in going. So I fucked myself quite a lot within this resistance, though I never rejected Desteni and what I had realized through Desteni, because I could not deny the common sense that had been shared. I could not deny that I am here breathing, and that within the breath is life itself the physical existence and all that is here simply because I have seen that within myself, even if it is only within a limited understanding at this point. I have seen through my application of what Desteni has shared, and with common sense, that this is real, and that we have become mind consciousness systems as personality, thought, emotion and ego. As you can see within your own thoughts - who and what we have come to say is me as a personality, as the voice in the head, is actually a program; we were programmed to speak a certain language, and so we think in the same way = program. If I had grown up in Germany I would be speaking and thinking in my head German. Who we think we are as the mind is only made up of words that have been programmed into us so, that is just information, not a real living being in any way. It can all be given up and breathed away, proving that it isnt real. So, as Desteni has clarified many times, this needs to be dismantled and given up, as this is the false self/ego that we have created and lived as if it is real. It must be stopped by self and self alone. It has consequence in this world have a look at what people live and do to others as a result of backchat thoughts and possession, that always results in abuse, neglect, excuses and justifications rape, murder, animal abuse, war, greed, selfinterest, justifying the way the world is today, justifying starvation, wanting only a happy little life and to forget about everything else this is all the program of the mind - if we support this system/program within ourselves, we support it in all of humanity. So I am here now in my life pushing to give up my ego points and self-interest, and pushing through my resistances, in realizing that life on Earth and the safety of everything that is here is of much more importance than the personality/ego I created, isolated myself into, and valued over everything else. Im here to learn to live fully free in real expression as life, assist others as self to do the same, and to make sure that nothing like animal abuse or child abuse happens again. I see that the Equal Money System is a necessary replacement of the current system, as it would stop so much of the abuse that takes place in this world because of money and profit; that which people currently require now to be able to survive in this system. Everyone is capable of hearing the Desteni message and living it it just requires a stopping of the regular daily life as the mind for a moment to question what the hell is going on in this world? Am I really who I think I am? Do I want to continue living a mediocre, self-interested life in the pursuit of a happiness that never really arrives or lasts, that has been done billions of
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times before in the past only to come to nothing each time; or do I want to live something that actually matters and means something both for myself and for all life? Do I really want to have a world where animals and children are abused every single fucking day? Do I really want to continue existing forever as a slave in limitation, to the mind-ego and to the world system? None of this is necessary we can stand up fully as life as who we are, change the world system to an Equal Money System, and live free in absolute peace and expression as life. Thats the message of Desteni. Thanks.

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IA BR INGADTTIR
http://processida.blogspot.com/2012/02/why-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

05 February 2012 When I found Desteni I was able to hear the message right away. At first there was no hesitation, just a lot of fun going through the material, and eye opening. Why it easily got through to me was because I had a lot of interest in what was being shared and through my life I had experienced things that finally made sense when I found Desteni. Firstly From when I was a child I was able to see that the world was not in a good condition. I did not want to have it like this. When I got to be a teenager I learned more and wanted to find ways to change this.. I read things, investigated a lot and practiced myself to one day be able to change the world, I actually dreamed of becoming a politician. I would speak to people about my notions, I joined groups or was drawn to speak to people that saw things. I got in to feminism and investigated a lot about the gender ideas and how you get in to that box. Which opened up a lot about how we turn out the way we do by looking at upbringing, money, culture and so on. I attended conferences about sex, porn, prostitution and rape. In school my favorite subjects wherephilosophy,phycology, sociology, pedagogy,science and subjects where I could use my hands, like art.My assignments at school where most often on something that I saw as something that would open up peoples eyes. Problem was that people did not want to hear. And I would experience people getting angry or thinking I was mad/weird, and I really did not like the friction. I more often choose to shut up.. Or I would allow myself to become frustrated and judge the person as stupid for not being able to see. Ignorance Through time I more and more gave up on this because it seemed so impossible.. and to hard to always have to experience this friction.. I felt to weak to stand up against the world. I started turning my life plans in to another direction, one that seemed more easy, where I felt more likely to "make it",and I decided to become an artist instead, then I would not have to stand up and face people, but only show my art. Then I got more in to fashion and decided I was going in to the fashionindustry. That way I could just sell myself, play around and
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not have to work as hard.Also I started getting myself a more comfortable life. I saw that I mentally felt better not being so concerned and sad about how the world looked..I learned how to have a good time, partying, playing around, spending time with friends.At this time I could feel myself knocking within me saying to myself: But what about what you stood for before..? You have changed Ida. Do you not care anymore? You are here living an easy protected life just playing around while others are experiencing war and starvation. That is not ok! And what I would do is I would feel bad about it, I still did not want the world to be this way. But I had come to doubt my ability to have an impact on this world because it had been so hard before. And I had learned to enjoy myself in spite of all the suffering.I had never felt so good in my whole life as in this period of time.. But this was also the period where I was the most ignorant. I ignored the self honesty that came up within me. I pushed it away because I rather wanted to have this good life feelings whereIexperiencedpeopleliking and looking up to me.I much rather wanted that than having to "fight", as I saw it, against everybody else andfeeling like being seen as a weirdo. My life had never been so easy as when I choose to close my eyes to the world and exist in my own little bubble. It was to great to give away. I would use the excuse that maybe this is just how it is supposed to be.. and I would, by looking at others and how they where expressing themselves, start to tell myself that maybe, just maybe, everyone is for themselves and should only try to make their own little worlds the best it can be. Even if I had known before and still knew within me that we are all connected and we create what is here together. And I knew that I would have to face this. Where I was at just did not feel right. Hiding Then my life turned and I went to the polarity of my great life experience. I got a boyfriend, stopped partying and started staying home, smoking weed and watching a lot of documentaries, movies and lectures about everything and nothing. I explored what the internet had to offer and I watched/read everything I was interested in, much thanks to my boyfriend who was in to spirituality, conspiracy theories and all sorts of information. One thing lead me to another. And I spent almost 2 years doing this everyday. There was endless information. So I stopped participating with people. And because my friends/acquaintanceswhere not satisfied with where I was at, like smoking weed, stopping partying and choice of partner, I would get more resistance to them and excuse my "hiding" by seeing them as just being stuck in their little ignorant worlds while actually I was doing the same just in my own little
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bubble world. But I really wanted to do this, I needed the change, I chose it. I had become sick of partying and doing those "shallow" things. But I judged people for doing the same as I had been doing before, at the same time as I was still doing the same, just another side to it. Because both dont come to anything or neither create a change. I started getting more frustrated about this world, seeing it was not so great when not having fun all the time anymore. And I was able to allow myself to see again that things where not ok. I was a truth seeker. I would investigate things that beings like Michael Tsarion, David Icke, Ian Xel Lungold,Nassim Harameinand others had to say. Mystical and spiritual things and all sorts of alternative history.... the mayans and their calendar,man not having evolved from apes or being alien beings, stories of giants, reptilians, atlanteans,Atlantis, Egypt and so on. And then of course aliens, crop circles, space,ghosts, magic, new age stuff, star children, light beings, indigo, crystals, healing, chakras, past lives, horoscopes, symbols, tarot, infinity and so on and on and on. Everything that seemed mystical and where there was no clear answer to what I wanted to know about.. I wanted to know the deal and I went far in all subjects that where interesting. Still not getting to the ultimate answer to anything. Also I watched documentaries/movies/lectures about reality issues, conspiracy theories andscience. Prostitution, porn, slavery, water, the earth, food, nutrition, health, war, history, elite (like funkybusiness/secret societies),capitalism, consumption, pollution, venus project, religion, upbringing of children, school system, psychology and so on. It was great fun checking out all these things, though it only brought up more questions within me. Much of it made sense but not nearly enough to bring a real answer to why the world is the way it is. And a problem was, I was not able to see how/what to do anything about these issues with all the information I had gathered, it was all over the place, with no real solution. And byviewingthe human world I could see that by they way we are going about we have never been able to make thatdefinitivechange to create the wonderful world I dreamed of. We have never been able to see/understandfor real what we are actually doing and what to do about it. And I was not able to do anything really anyway to make a change because I spent all this time on smoking, being depressed/happy,stuck in a relationship,and deluding
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myself with spirituality crap that justkeptme stuck in the same state of not doing anything. I wasjust not effective except for investigating a lot.Only that my investigations did not really come to anything because I had gotten in to a mind state like being addicted to finding moremysteries. And dreaming of a great world, being frustrated for not having it. I had become stuckin being ineffective..And within that as well money starting to get less and not taking care of my body, same as before though when partying a lot. I had just not learnt to take care of myself. Change But then within all my investigations I stumbled upon some Desteni videos on youtube,reptilians, aliens and a few others through the portal andBernard'sinterviews on infinityandhistory of the universe and more. BernardinterviewsI took in right away. It was exactlywhat I had been looking for.But the portal, I found a bit weird. I had no idea they where connected until Igot captured when I fell in on the Sex and Successinterviewswith Sunette.. I knew this was THE thing becauseit fitted to what I had seen already about sex by having been in to feminism andthroughmyexperienceswith sex/relationships, but within theseinterviewsit was taken so much further. I had never heard anyone speak so detailed about this.Iexperiencedit like she put in to words what I had not been able to express or even understand and as I went on listening new things opened up,I wasintrigued/ curious,extremelyfascinated andI could see she was for real.Also what was cool was to see her speak in her own body after having seen videos with weird beings speaking in it, which made it a point for me to take the portal/Sunette more seriously.So from here is where I started looking up more videos and found out this girl was connected to Bernard. Which made sense ;) I had found Desteni. And then my time of everyday watching began. Now everything started to make sense. Here I got an answer to all that I had been trying to figure out before by checking out these lectures, documentaries and reading all that stuff. All those things where just one or afewpoints where taken onseparately, and their talking did not come to much because it was so limited to only these few points. At Desteni everything was explained and I mean every point was taken on from angles I had never imagined, things I was looking all over for before, things I had beenwonderingabout all my life along with things that I did not knowexisted, butcompletelymade sense in relation to everything I had seen/experienced through my life. It was a lot to go through, a lot a lot (I am not even finished yet). But it was so interesting, I could not stop, great fun. And it was shared so that everything made sense, because of the clarity and direct honesty. Like when
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listening to Bernard and him just shoving in your face something so brutally true that I was not able to hide from it. So direct straight like it could just as well been myself showing me what I had missed.. but now not being able to be ignored as I could do to my self honesty before because here I could actually hear it being spoken in sound to me from another being in so muchclarityand specificity. This from someone that wasnot happy about what we have done with our responsibility at the same time as showingunconditionally and with brutalgentlenesswhat is able to be done to start taking it to change the world to a better place.
.."it could just as well been myself showing mewhatI had missed"... "someone that was not happyaboutwhat we have done with our responsibility"...

I was a bit ashamed of myself when listening to Bernard and beings speaking through the portal becausefor what I saw I had allowed myself to become. But mostly I was extremely relieved and thankful. I would lye in my bed and listen/watch and laugh and cry, totally listen with all of me. I could almost not believe I was hearing finally someone speaking out all these things. Now I was able to start to understand what has really been going on here. And it was so straight forth.. no hesitation/ideas/beliefes or someone trying to persuade you to think like them or to be against anyone else.. it was just basically straight to the point in your face. And I could see it within me. I felt like it had always been within me.. locked.. I could experience myself unlocking as I was hearing the sharing. Everything made complete sense. Points of doubt I had a point of wondering if the portal was just an act. A really good one. Not that I felt that it mattered really because I was just hearing well what was being shared. And I could relate and just by looking at this world I knew this, what was being shared, was important and something I wanted to be a part of. And the more I watched the more certain I got. I followed the beings body language and speech and I saw it was real.. I had never seen a young girl/ boy (or anyone at all except Bernard) talk with so much clarity and in so much detail on so different subjects. I did not judge what was being said.. I saw it within myself... started to understand myself more with everyday investigating Desteni.. this assisted me greatly.
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One point though, that I tangled myself in after having watched for a while and now knowing about the deceptions that have been going on in existence, was that I started thinking what if this could be the 'ultimate deception'. Here these beings are sharing all this truth and could be leaving something out, to at a later stage use it against me if I share myself. Like fear of being lured in to a genius clever trap. This is an experience/feeling I have had within me that goes very deep... I have always felt like nothing is able to be trusted.. not necessarily even myself. It is like I have been hiding and running away from getting hurt or deceived and in fear of loosing myself. An experience that has been a part of who I am and an idea/feeling it having been from before I was born, and thus being skeptical to everything out of fear of loosing myself or someone being out to get me or something. This has been one of my most prominent points through my life.And I had this skepticism within me for a long time, even a bit after starting the I process. This limited me. Letting go But the point where I knew I had to let go of it was when Equal Money was brought up. It was the point of ok.. this is just Wow! I had wanted Equal Money when I was a child and it was common sense to me.. that we give as we would like to receive.. and that everyone should be able to live equal, everybody that have a life should be able to live it and enjoy it. Fucked up that some starve when others have more than enough. So this was a point of complete sincerity and unselfishness that was showing me where these beings from Desteni where coming from. And therefore I could let go of this point.. after a while. I could relax. I see that by trusting myself I am not able to be deceived. Being certain within me. Because I actually am the only one deceiving me by not being certain within me, trusting myself about what is best for me and all. And here is where we start to trust each other.. after first stopping deceiving ourselves we are able to trust ourselves and then we wont get deceived by others who is actually just us allowing ourselves to be deceived.. and then in time this accumulates until all are certain within themselves stable, stopped trying to deceive others by self deception and then we are able to start trusting each other as we trust ourselves. Equal Money is a point that builds trust. Finally
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So what made me able to hear the Desteni message had a lot to do with the series of events I had experienced trough my life. Not only these I have shared here but also how I experienced myself within family, school, friends, relationships/sex, society and my whole childhood/life over all and mewithin myself. Everything fell in to place as I was investigating the Desteni sharings. I started to understand why/how I have become who I am. And I started using my self honesty.I realized that I have to deal with myself and I got the practical tools to do so. Now I knew that this was what I was going to do, and because I could feel the difference within me.. how I became more clear, silent and stable I saw that this was the way to be able to change the world.. I experienced the change myself so of course it is able to be practiced at a greater level, where we change the world together. And it was just so much common sense.No complications.. just straight forward simple.. still at the same time hard to have to face your hidden and work with it.. but I saw it is totally worth it and that I was ready to stop my ego. Anyway I did not even like big parts of my ego and the life experience I had within this world so I saw myself as definitely ready to give it up and create a world that is best for all. Something that I always wanted anyway, just now by finding Desteni and the tools shared I had find a practical way to get there. I realized I have to start take responsibility for myself and the world I have been a part of creating. Thanks All Without all I see nothing. So therefor I realize myself as all, I stop living in a mind bubble of my own egoistic world, to be able to see reality.

Ia Br Ingadttir is a DIP Agent http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/107

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KIM AMOURETTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBQNCyjAv-4

21 January 2012

In this interview I share how I came to be a Destonian and consider the Desteni message, applying the tools of self forgiveness, self honesty and self correction. Kim Amourette is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/165

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MRTON SZAB
http://mp2life.blogger.hu/2012/02/08/2012-how-could-i-hear-the-desteni-message

08 February 2012 at the time i found desteni i was in way too much ego...i had my own way to everything...i generally developed a point of view which is the safest and the most egoist of what i encountered yet. i was living in a really tight nutshell believing that i am the master of all this, and just experimenting with humans and "spending my vacation time" also sometimes my inner personality came to surface and remembered that i as one of the creators wanted them to stop ransacking beings and locking them up even if that is due to their own allowance yet i somehow fighted back and had to hide and stay low for a while therefore came to this planet earth because here the systems are so dense they cannot find me here... and i came up with many different things, ideas, beliefs and such which i actually not just believed but also lived out fully... so when i found out one of the destonians video i was astounded by the openness and humbleness towards herself, and i have never seen anything like it while carefully watching and analizing humans...so i went on and investigated the video materials and the portal interviews. half a year later i had to find out that all i did was gathering any and all information and knowledge i could BY desteni and it's members...i wanted to use them...yet in one moment i found out that i am INSANE. in the meaning of that i actually rob, rape, and supress myself so much that i don't even want to look at it. that day i was finally able to grasp what it is that is being shown to me by "myself". and in that moment i not just committed myself to walkt towards and within and as desteni yet that there is really no choice at all...even if i would NOT choose it i would still go over it...because noone can evade itself... first the profoundness and the specificity was what got me than the self-honesty i saw... and after that is myself...i actually realized myself in every single piece of blog-vlog-article i found. nothing was really *new* yet never heard of it(dared to look at) and this showed me to actually walk within and as this process. looking back, which is actually looking HERE i see that i walked a couple of points and even
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while not being super into it (meaning i mostly devote myself to focused process-ing 2-4hrs a day) i still is able to walk and apply the most powerfoul tools of self... so i push, look, walk and support every being who is willing or doing the same. "joining life, cannot be regretted" Mrton (ps.:the written above can be clearly seen in my "early" posts here take your time to read it to gain a broader perspective of what i written down here)

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GABRIEL ZAMORA MORENO

http://gabrielietsanders.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

05 February 2012 There are a couple of aspects as to why I was able to hear the Desteni message. One of them is that shortly before finding Desteni I had become very focused on and obsessed with spirituality, because I had a problem the problem was that I was experiencing physical pain, and I wanted to use meditations, sound frequency, selfhypnosis and similar techniques to manipulate my body so that I would feel better. Whenever I would do these things, it would make the situation worse. I would be in more pain and the situation wasnt better at all. So, I was getting pretty desperate and it was clear to me that what I was doing was on a level that a doctor would not be able to help me, because theyre not going to be interested in self-hypnosis and creative visualization and how that works or how you program your body with that bullshit. And - I felt pretty alone in this, and I was thinking that I must be the only person in the world who is dealing with this. I was in other words under the impression that Im fucked. If we look at Desteni, what is the core message? Its self-forgiveness. Thus the message I was given is that if I want to alleviate my situation, I will have to take self-responsibility the only way out is self-responsibility. So, when I tried self-forgiveness for myself, and when taking it seriously, I found it to be directly effective and it did also assist me. I had actually direct physical feedback of the effectiveness of self-forgiveness. Whenever I would be working with a point, there would be a self-release and a there would be a physical release, and I was able to work through the pains I was experiencing. So, thats one aspect. Another aspect is the common sense aspect, of why I was able to hear the Desteni message. Because, when I was busy with the love and light, the meditations and the ascension, I

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was also a believer in 2012 believing that some beings are going to ascend and thats just how its going to be, and there was one particular interview done by Jack, who is one of the beings who spoke through the portal, and he explained in a very straightforward manner that basically: 2012 is not going to happen. And that it is in essence greed, because in the projection of ascension the idea is that some will be saved and they will ascend, and then those who have ascended will just wait for the rest who remain suffering on earth. And he made it clear how massive separation that is and total self-interest, and within myself I could not argue with that. I saw that so clearly, how ascension was actually evil. So, from that point of not being able to argue with that, I simplistically developed respect towards the points that Desteni was bringing forward and I started to investigate more and more. In essence, what made me realize that Desteni was for real is when I would apply selfforgiveness this was in a period when I had a lot of time to myself, which I was fortunate to have, I realize that I had a lot of time to apply self-forgiveness. I was all alone, and I could speak self-forgiveness out loud, unhindered, and I could really check this thing out, you know I could really check it out and I did. And I found for myself through the application of self-forgiveness that it worked. There was immediate effect and feedback. I was basically through self-forgiveness discovering what self-expression is, because I have never in my Life (that I am aware of) discovered self-expression, which did open up through self-forgiveness. And I found it quite magnificent, and I decided that fuck Im going to stick with this These are just a couple of points, a couple of perspectives on what I was experiencing at that time and what were the reasons why I was able to hear the Desteni message, why it made sense to me and why I got so interested. Gabriel Zamora Moreno is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/47

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MARLEY DAWKINS
http://marleypeterbenjamindawkins.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

04 February 2012 To get to the point of actually unconditionally hearing the desteni message has been a process in itself, because when I first came across desteni material in 2007, I reacted in fear, and essentially allowed what I was hearing and reading to create a kind of storm of opinions, judgements and fears within and as me. I found the minimal information I had researched at the time to be fascinating however I was completely entrenched within and as a belief of higher light Ascension, and Aliens, swimming in my mind blissfully, which at the time I perceived to be the only solution to correct humanity- basically that all humans must sit down and focus on ass-ending lol. So I saw the message of desteni as a massive threat to my beliefs at the time of ascension, so I then allowed myself to become this defence-attack mechanism which I have taken up many times in my life, where I felt like I must fight for my beliefs, protect the light and attack the evil, that desteni is evil and I must destroy this group, existing as a frictional positive/ negative polarity that all humans have accepted to be real in every decision we make, when in fact none of it is ever real. So I was massively deluded, as these light mind possessions, which was such a sweet tasting belief that I defined myself according to, and would do anything to enforce on others, where I experienced myself like a kind of spiritual light warrior and that it was my responsibility to go around fighting evil which I defined at the time as anyone that disputes light working delusions. This idea of lights in my mind was so entertaining to me at the time, I deceived myself into believing that I was changing the abuse within and as me, but in fact I was purely distracting and supressing myself from real change, where I was only creating more mental relationships, feeding my ego, enforcing my programming. No matter how much mediation I was focusing on, I simply could not stop myself from thinking about crime and destruction in general in every way.
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And so after a while of constant thinking about desteni, and after I had uploaded a lot of abuse towards desteni on YouTube, I started to slow down and look at myself. I was beginning to realise in mid-2008 how much I was deceiving myself into believing Im changing, where I claim divinity, yet Im attacking a group like desteni and anyone that disagreed with me in general. Then I could see I was justifying these attacks towards others in my mind because of believing that its destenis fault why Im experiencing annoyance within and as me towards them. So it was a point of Self-honesty, where I could see it was me reacting to desteni, I was the starting point of allowing this reaction, I built it, I could see that these reactions I allowed to be triggered were not the desteni groups fault, but entirely my own. And I could see that in fact I was not changing for the best of all within beliefs of ascension, not changing at all, just charging my programming. So within noticing more and more that meditation and my dearly valued light working was actually having no effect on correcting the abuse existing within and as me, then I decided that I am tired of my own bullshit, tired of deceiving myself, tired of my abuse. So I said to myself this has to end, and I was beginning to realise that real Equality is the only way to end abuse. At first I believed my ability to start hearing the desteni message was because of aliens talking to me in my mediations lol, telling me that desteni is the way. However that was all shit I made up in my mind at the time, attempting to hang onto some kind of specialness as communicating with aliens, which I have since applied a lot of self-forgiveness on. Because in actual fact, I was able to hear the desteni message because of getting bored of my own bullshit I existed as, and actually wanting to change for the best of all. So then I started to test desteni tools of self-writing, self-forgiveness, self-honesty and common sense particularly in relation to thoughts of destroying desteni, ascension/aliens, selling drugs, carrying weapons, and harming people for money etc. What I found immediately was fascinating, where I was able to stick to breath and not entertain thoughts that came up through writing about it, applying self-forgiveness and sticking to breathe everytime the thoughts came up. Because the desteni tools when effectively applied allow us to actually see what we are accepting and allowing in every here breathe whether
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it is best for all, or is from a starting point of self-interest, and to not go into that which is based in self-interest. It was awesome to be able to actually start directing myself within and as breathe, to start aligning myself to the physical, instead of what I was doing with ascension/meditation, which was distracting myself in my mind from physical reality, distracting myself within delusion from the actuality of how I was existing, but not actually changing. Within applying desteni tools for real, I found I could put myself in the shoes of another, and I could see how unacceptable my abusive behaviour towards myself as others has been. So very quickly after testing desteni tools for a while, I was like fuck me, this stuff really works! And ever since then around the start of 2009 I have been walking this process of selfrealization and self-honesty, expanding myself within and as the desteni message of equality and oneness, supporting anything desteni related. There is many points I have faced and corrected within myself and my day to day application, however there is so much more shit for me to deal with, because we humans have only known our brainwashing for our entire existence, but the coolest thing within any limitation Im accepting and allowing currently, is that I know from experience that real change is possible, and I have the tools to actually manifest real change that is best for all as myself. So this process is the hardest thing that humans have ever taken on, but I am so grateful for this process, so grateful for everything everyone at desteni has done and continues to do, because for me there is no doubt that if I had not heard the desteni message I would very likely be sat in a prison cell trying to mediate to another reality lol, or possibly I could have been dead by now. So if you are tired of your own limitations, tired of being a deceiver, tired of turning a blind eye to reality and you want to make a change to yourself and the world as a whole, then research and join us at desteni, because we in fact stand for whats best for all life.

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FRED CHEUNG
http://fredcheung.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni-message_14.html

14 February 2012 My story of why I was able to hear the Desteni Message. Again, I thought I would have a lot to write about or it would be very obvious/clear in me. Yet, I have been asking myself/looking inside myself for the whole night when I was watching Eclipse 4 - Breaking Dawn(Well the movie itself is pretty crappy, it's the old boys girls loving triangle and the actors and their mesmerized audiences are getting older now, so they give the couple a daughter try to extend the money making saga. I would say the truth is once I have read all the fascinating REAL space journeys, stories and fascinating history of earth and dimensions -- I don't find these Science fiction stories interesting any more, you know, supernatural, able to have visions of the future, man change into wolf and have enormous strength, or vampires cannot die and have extreme speed and strength like superman. I mean, after studying Desteni's material for almost 5 years you know these are not true! The real world is not like that, the afterlife is not like that, the interdimension is not like that). I care about everyone that read this passage and I would like to take this moment to thank you for reading my passage. I care about everyone so much that I want to tell you how Desteni totally change my Life, in how I see things, how I would walk my Life. How I stop/ change myself. However, I currently don't know how I can show you. How I can make you start your journey in exploring what Desteni is, why is it worth your time and effort to "open your eyes" to see this grand universe is actually not as beautiful as it seem. The earth is a dark grey and evil place filled with all sorts of crime and corruptions where all evil originated from one word: GREEDINESS! We at Desteni are pledged to change/clean ourselves so both our inner and outer world is to make Earth really a PRACTICAL HEAVEN ON EARTH for us and every CHILDREN everyone on earth. Make Oneness and Equality as the greatest gift to our children and maybe one day, you and me will be one of these children to come and return to this Earth again. Allow me to tell you a little bit of my background. Before I found Desteni, I was totally lost in masturbation and my only world is just porn animation and closing my room's door and being
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with myself. I was also so fascinated about the universe, you know, the beautiful galaxy swirl filled with star dust and with vivid and yet mysterious color! Red, Green and Blue! And all sorts of fantasies about space travel etc. When I was small, I know it's not likely that I can travel in space to other planets(according to our current technology) but I just found the idea is so fascinating. Fascinating is an very abstract word, I "learned" fascinating when I first look at an animation girl with big eyes on the floor on a piece of paper and I was staring at it/her. After 30seconds I came back and ask myself: Why I was kept staring at this "figure"? I had studied chiromancy for 15 years, as an amateur palm reader, I can predict someone's past history or events with a 65% accuracy. So that's pretty accurate. I was lost as most people nowadays -- using whatever means possible to find money(not even earn, as long as I can get more money and enjoyments, that would be my only concern). Working on how to predict my own fate, how to improve my luck. Before my father die, there is no "death" in my life. My life is just find ways to masturbate and enjoy myself. Ever since my father "die" when I was 32? or 33, death becomes something so close to me, so imminent. Almost like death "suddenly walk into my Life" and tremendous amount of fear of not existing any more arise inside me. So I start studying popular religion -- hoping to find answers for is there anything beyond death from our ancestor's documents. I read the whole bible(new + old testament) once. I prayed for god thank you him for providing me meals for one month. Nothing happens. I keep testing and nothing really change. Then I began to question these religions. Click to find out why Equal Money can Solve all the atrocities on Earth and bring us Practical Heaven on Earth!Including the FREE Equal Money - Why Science and Language? I mean, the idea of no question permitted but god "has the best plane for you". He won't tell you what that plan for you is you just keep praying keep having faith in him(lol almost like sink with the ship faith) and things will turn out good. If it didn't turn out good then you are guaranteed to have your place in a heaven after death. Almost like someone gave you a $100,000,000 check and told me: No questions permitted but then you are permitted to cash this one million dollar after you die in your afterLife. It sounds like a 50-50 chance but if you use common sense, it is in fact less than 50% because the so called testaments are only a handful, not to mention no one has ever came back and tell us: Hey, god really exist! he cash me this check $100,000,000 and I put them into a bank in heaven. I am coming to tell you. I mean, the more I study Christianity, the more remind of me the movie Wizard of OZ. When
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the wizard project his green big head on the projector screen and instruct Dorothy and the lion and tin man do this and do that. When Dorothy began to question with common sense and the big green head just throw them with rage and told them how dare you question my commands!? Buddhism is even worse! Basically they just emphasize on suppressing your sexual desire, being vegetarian don't eat meat, recite the Buddhism scriptures 500times a day and being a kind and generous person then you can cleanse your sins, end your atrocities your karma and find ultimate peace and happiness wonder nirvana land. I mean, every religion, at the end(of the day), have to give you a postdated check, agree? And they "always depict" a heaven or Eden at the end to keep you think: Great! This can solve all my problems/pain while I was on earth. It is worth enduring it and I will be reward "greatly"! after death! It's still worth investing(especially money) on these religious organizations. I mean, the more I investigate into it, the more (common sense)questions appear, more contradictions rises inside me and I started to question my belief and faith in all these Christianity or Buddhism. I concluded with: I am not satisfied. The more I read and study or listen, the more questions that doesn't make sense at all arise. Like, killing the animals and cooked them on the plate for us to eat and we thank god for creating the "cow" to scream in pain and drown in tears and die?? Not the cow?? Furthermore, Let's put aside the logical paradox of how can the all mighty god raise a rock that he cannot raise but why god created us that need to eat and sleep when god is all mighty and all capable?? Why the world is full of rapists, murderers and a handful of people will trillions of wealth?? Why the trillionaires live over 90 years old and most third world countries like African, children dying on the street or enslaved in factories camp before their 20th birthday?? Religion just totally doesn't make sense to me at all. How I was able to hear the Desteni Message? Well, after living for 40years on this earth, experiencing all sorts of hoax and tricks in this world. It's like gaining experience in a RPG video game. The more you play, got lied or tricked, if you are open to common sense you gain more and more experience and are more difficult to fall on the same trick again. I got "upgraded" after studying all these chiromancies, Christian and Buddhism. I think the main reason I was able to listen to the Desteni message is because I was pretty stubborn -- I won't settle and stop asking (common sense) questions until I am satisfied. I do believe if one said is "true/real" then the more (common sense) questions I ask, the more it will help me see what it is and if it is fake or wrong. Somehow, "signs of fake/wrong" will float on top when I ask more and more common sense questions. What surprised me about Desteni indifferent than other religious or cult is: Bernard encourage
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us to ask (common sense) questions. To develop common sense. In simple terms: Don't just blindly follow like religious and what Desteni said can be tested. But you have to use the tools(like self-forgiveness, self-corrective application) to test on yourself, use yourself to show yourself -- what Desteni said does work on me! I was like: Cool! So just write the words or speak aloud and then I have a chance to live forever!? Cool deal! Besides of this. The information that Desteni covered are "enormous"!! Extremely enormous!! From quantum physics, molecules, afterlife, past famous presidents/celebrities, exorcism, demons, government secrets, UFOs, crop circle signs, human history/universe history/preearth history/dinosaurs history, channeling, fairies, the real heaven, earth mysteries(and they use extremely common sense to explain how and what that myth is for -- e.g. the English stone hedges), the real religious history, what else? Oh, how the world works, how the economy works, the secrets of how money works as a tool to enslave 95% of all on earth. I didn't even know there are something called elite back then. Oh! Psychology, how the systems inside human functions, all aspects like jealousy, hate, angriness, male and female ego, why gay and lesbian exist? Click to Find out detailed explained what is sex, including the FREE downloadable Samples here.laziness, procrastination, love, possession etc. Much more details and can be understand in simple terms, much more helpful than a psychologist or a university professor. Even after I have studied/Joint Desteni for almost 5 years now, I keep asking common sense questions. Do what they say make sense? Of course, after 5 years there are certain level of trust that I have built amongst Desteni, Bernard, Sunette and other Destonians but I still ask myself questions. Does it make sense? What is the most effective way to do it? I'd suggest to you keep asking common sense questions. Not What if this or what if that? That's only the mind. Ask with an open mind: Does it make sense? Do the whole package make sense? Are they hiding anything? Like the religions or the bible, half truth and half lies. Through asking questions sooner or later(to me only a few months) you will find out: Something is not right here!? If it is fake/wrong. Just like existence, at the bottom of our heart we all "know" something is not right in existence. How we called "living" day in and day out is not right. We shouldn't live like this and we all know there must be a better way out. I mean, as you can see -- Desteni is the answer. When I first listen to Jack's masturbation series, it was totally not what I expected from something titled "masturbation" and I just watch it for a few minutes then I go somewhere else. However, when I saw the history of mankind series, I was drawn by the title "Atlanteans". Click andFind out more about Atlanteans telling their stories through the portal! I watched the first 5 episodes. I found this "story", I have never heard anything like this on earth! Yet, it's far beyond any science fiction story. I mean the contents, the style, the plot are totally different than what I have heard before. It doesn't even sounds like man-made or created
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from a human mind. Yes, I mean, you can feel those. I have always been fascinating about science fiction stories/Hollywood movies, whenever I see a science fiction book or movie I would definitely read or watch them. Yet, I have never read/heard anything like this! This arouse my interest. This is how I start "digging" into the Desteni treasure library. Later I found the most astonishing videos are they have three videos. A boy will come first and then swapped to a girl. Obviously that's Sunette -- a maybe 20 year or less teenage girl body. With a 4 or 5 year old boy and girl coming through the portal. With a 5 year old child's gesture, tonality, sharing how they die and how they see the world back then and now. How they are feeling now in the "old heaven" when the portal first opened. I mean, I was totally "brain freezed"!! How could this happen on earth!? I have been living for 35 years on earth then and I have never seen or even heard anything like that, not to mention recorded on a Video Clip! And they make them Free available for everyone to watch! I mean, to me it is way more interesting and worth investigating than go to a circus, isn't it? Then I investigate Desteni 6 hours per day. Read their articles and watch their videos. The more I read and ask questions, the more I understand and believe they are telling the truth -a world that beyond our eyes can see and they know way more than what I can understand. I mean, if it is not for oneness and equality, for the children to come on earth, Bernard could just spend his time with his family as a millionaire almost trillionaire if he is like everyone else in self-interest. Yet, Bernard totally devote himself with Sunette and support Desteni in always doing/planning what is best for all. Their tenacity for Equality is something that I am still learning and applying myself in every moment. One thing very import is to have an openmind. Ever since I was a child, I don't compromise with: Give up or don't bother. That's the way how things work in the world. Make peace with it. I am not satisfied with that. I always ask questions(or challenge when people or scripts or bible say don't question or stop asking question any more). Whatever I think is missing or was hidden in the bible or other religious -- they are all answered in Desteni materials and they teach me, open my eyes way much much more! If you are full of questions about who you are? What this world this universe is? What happen to us after we die? Where do we come from? What are we? What are we doing here on this hell called earth day in and day out? With an open mind and keep using your common sense to ask questions, participate in the forum -- I am sure you'd find all your answers here in Desteni. It is also about common sense and humbleness. I always have a feeling that I know everything
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that we do/act , there must be a consequence. It is just we haven't seen it yet. Common sense is very important. Asking Humble question is also extremely important. I mean, if you don't ask questions, you have pretty much give up your power and "willing to become a sheep" that is just waiting for someone to trick/hoax or slaughter you wouldn't you? I am sure we all agree if that is the case that you give up your common sense, give up your equality as everything in existence, give up the right to ask questions, then there is no one in existence that you can blame, correct? Even If you live in a hell that you keep on suffering in pain in facing yourself after death, right? No one is to blame but you. I can see many beings after they die then asking why!!! why!!! WHY!!!! Why I have to suffer this!! Why it has to be me to suffer!!!! They have "missed their chance" and would Have to be supported on the other side, walking a 100000000000000000 times more difficult road than while on earth. I told myself it's not worth it. I mean, if someone has the courage to believe in ego, believe in religion believe in someone that hasn't come back over 2000 years and an organization that haven't and don't care about the rape, murder and atrocities on earth but some (possible paradise) after you die. Then why not believe in Equality, in Desteni. Why not make your Biggest Profit Investments your/I/we can ever make once in a life time!? Equality for everyone and every children? Equal Money and Desteni. Making a pledge -- I was a very evil and naughty child in harming existence and I realize I have to through self-honesty self-forgiveness to clean myself to change myself so my outer world will change also. I am not a slave or a King or Queen. I am as EQUAL with Everyone and everything in existence. The key is: Humbleness, Common Sense and asking Humble Questions. Always! Thank you very much. Fred Cheung is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/159

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KELLY POSEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wwKH5gwZtM

31 January 2012

Kelly Posey is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/63

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SCOTT COOK
http://scottcook.blogspot.com/2012/02/being-able-to-hear-desteni.html

04 February 2012 Three years ago I had just discovered Youtube, which had already been around for quite a while obviously. I had no interest in social media prior to this aside from e-mail, and I didnt even know, or care, what Facebook was. One of the first things I discovered soon after becoming familiar with Youtube was Desteni. At the time, it seemed almost random, but I found it interesting because the person identified herself as Anton LaVey after performing a strange breathing technique, and went on to describe an interdimensional existence where people went after they die with whatever belief structure they have cultivated for themselves in this lifetime. While I wasnt committed to any belief in an afterlife, I still found it interesting because she described it in a way that managed to reconcile the different perspectives Ive read about, but at the time I just sort of bookmarked it in my mind. There was no computer in the house when I grew up, and among my initial reactions toward the internet was judgment toward the alternate personae that I perceived others were prone to project of themselves online. I didnt bother to consider how things like this reflected me or how I judged myself within it, and I didnt bother to consider the practicality of this tool of cyberspace. When I was online, it seemed difficult to focus on one thing at a time without giving in to the tendency to skim the surface of everything because suddenly everything you ever wanted to know was available at the fingertips. I had settled on the conviction that it was somehow easier to sit still with a book, because that was how I was used to reading, and I even considered that to be somehow 'better' than being immersed in cyberspace. When I did use a computer, if it wasnt for 'academic purposes' then I would look up things that suited my preference as it related to art and music, as well as certain occult sites that I developed an interest in as it referred back to whatever art and music that I was into as part of the process of cultivating my own self-religion. Even while believing myself to be openminded, there was simply nothing that I could believe in or commit myself to, because I was used to being a 'passive observer' in spite of whatever else was taking place in the world, as what was presented as global news remained as separate from me in my mind.
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The only belief system that made sense to me at the time was the idea that you can only invent one for yourself, i.e., the self-religion. Its a very capitalist belief of trying to establish a niche for myself within the social hierarchy, practically oblivious to what were participating in. But I was fascinated with how the mind functioned, as well as how it can be (self-) manipulated, and this was the proverbial box that I couldnt seem to think beyond. Months after the first encounter with a Desteni video, I stumbled upon the 2012 phenomenon, which was two and a half years ago. I found a few random videos of people who solemnly claimed that were all going to die in some cataclysmic way, along with a few other random videos of the skeptics who claimed that nothing out of the ordinary will take place. I noticed that there were videos of Desteni that were related to this subject, so of course I had to watch them in order to gain some further perspective on this debate. I was fascinated with the material as well as the subsequent process of hearing about how all my efforts to exist as a polarity-based mind-projection were pointless, because for much of my life I had a suspicion that was the case. Without really knowing how to integrate this material into whatever else I wrote from day to day, I just took notes and embraced the process of connecting the dots of these things people never talk about. Despite being so absorbed in the material, I didnt really know how to respond to or apply the information in any practical way, but it did put me in a state where I was questioning myself in a way that I wasnt used to. I actually enjoyed this because I felt like I had no attachment to whatever I was attempting to exist as, since it obviously wasnt working and I was becoming apathetic about it. This enabled me to understand why I always had such a difficult time believing in or committing myself to anything, because I had always been so devoted to trying to perceive and understand things as something separate from (and often greater than) myself. I didnt want to be one more self-centered person with opinions in the world, which is one of the reasons why I always kept my mouth shut in spite of the opinions that ran through my mind. I knew on some level that I lacked a valid starting point because I felt suffocated by my own self-interest, which I never even defined as such because that is the 'nature' of how this system grows on you. The application of what I have been able to understand of Desteni begins through my own writing, not to mention the feedback Ive received for it. What is presented as self-corrective
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'tools' such as self-forgiveness seems almost ridiculous on the surface, yet how many people in this world actually write in such a way of taking responsibility for their own reactions? I was very reluctant to apply what is suggested or even participate publicly until last summer, because I was so deeply into the habit of using writing as an ego-sharpening tool for the past decade. In the past, I couldnt accept that it would be necessary to have to absorb so much knowledge as something outside myself in this life in order to have understood what Im doing here. It seemed like I already knew this material on some level, but its distilled in such a way within Desteni that it cuts straight through the entire labyrinth of material you could spend several lifetimes reading about before realizing that all you can do is begin with yourself, which is exactly what I had always avoided, so it would have be completely irresponsible of me to ignore it. This enables me to go beyond the pettiness of self interest in order to participate in the co-creation of a world wherein my relative comfort is no longer someone elses relative misery through systematically deconstructing the hierarchy from the inside out. Many people who are new to the material may be quick to criticize because the idea of such a system based on equality and oneness is something that will inevitably sound intrusive to a lot of minds. However, the mentality of living in our minds and projecting opinions onto everyone seems quite futile when we realize that everyone else has been in the habit of doing the exact same thing, and the end result has been one a massive crossfire of projected self-religions that is the recipe for mutually assured destruction. If such an abusive and selfannihilating hierarchy is so popular, then one thing that I can take advantage of is the fact that I'm in such a disposition where I can change it within myself.

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ANDREAS WHITTMANN
http://andreaswittmann1.blogspot.com/2012/02/2012-why-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni.html

06 February 2012 This is quite an interesting question because basically everyone is or should be able to hear the message of Equality. However we can clearly see that this is not the case and that in fact the message and the points that go with like the Equal Money System and Selfforgiveness, Self-honesty and Self-correction are often faced with resistances. And thats the whole pointlol Ego resists Equality. So, how come that I was able to hear the message? One point that comes up when I look at my life/way before this point was that I experience it as kind of inevitable endstation. In the year or so before I found Desteni I was starting to search again to kind of find a way or the truth about what is life and what is real, a point or a desire that I have buried at some point in my life as well as the concern for and interest in what is going on in the world as a whole. Lets have a look: its a little over 2 years that I found a portal-interview on the Mayan-Calender and on the 10.01.2010 I wrote in a booklet that I in 2007 used as a travel-dairy on a holiday with a friend in Sri-Lanka and then converted to a trip-book where I would notice and write about my drug-experiments: 2009 was partly a quite cool, emotional year with lots of up and downs respectively emotionally between sky-high cheering and deadly aggrieved/sad (Yes, thats quite fitting). Lots of hopes, lots of dreams, lots of drugs, projections but no fulfilment and completion. Lots of opportunities and presents but only acceptance if there was no other wayand then again anger and self-pity because I have realized and moved so little So, that was funny to write because of seeing the polarity-swings in it and the extensive nature of my mind-fuck at this time and within this the acknowledgement that this are still my points to work with. At this point in my life I have gathered quite some experiences and played various roles: relationship, sex, drugs, partying, knowledge, school, job, studying, addiction, meditation,
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travelling, imagination, positive thinking, psychology, reading, isolation and jet nothing was really satisfying or nothing I did for real nothing lasted and from a perspective I knew that all of this was empty and is only method and way for me to get something, to manipulate myself. So going through a lot of various experiences such one could call positive and such one could call negative I am still on a journey a search. Actually I am quite desperate in the days of finding Desteni walking around getting emotional and crying over a past relationship and regretting and feeling guilty for my participation. On some day I was looking for documentaries for mayas after taking San Pedro cactus the day before and somehow stumble upon the portal-interview on the mayan-calender. As far as I can remember I was not hit by it because I had not special idea or believe about it however found it a cool explanation I think I remember the point that not the world is ending but simply the program running out. I started to watch more videos and got very fascinated and blown away from the start. To bring in another point or two was that at this time and as a parallel and outflow I started to check out the maya-calender - not to serious but just like a point of interest and a horoskop-typ of entertainment, but it reveals how I like and want to have reverence in separation as a direction a point that I as mind can relate my experiences to and justify with and with it came a interactive application MyWay The eagle sets him self free where I would receive a e-mail every day for 21days with a story about an eagle that has to transform himself by braking his beak, scuff his claws and pull out his feathers to survive another 30 years. I point is obviously based in Spirituality and achieving a personal Freedom , however for me it was cool to at all reflect and work/write about myself on a daily basis at this time but again the point was placed in separation seeing myself through the metaphor of an eagle where also a outcome of freedom and greatness in some way is suggested, and the material was feed to me so no self-directed application This was one point, the second was a book that was brought up by coincidence which was the Impersonal Live that made quite an impression on me with the application of Be still and know - that I am god! and also the point that there is only one self and that is equal to life and that I am it. So, my experience with watching the portal-interviews was in the beginning being blown away and like a mind-stop, listening and it hit immediately home after the interviews. While I could relate to most of the videos, there where some that I had specific experiences/ resonance with that I had/saw within the world or/and myself. Mother Nature on how the we destroy the Planet, how nature is suffering. Her common sense touched me. What you are doing is abusive and hurts Would you please stop!
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Also the Story of Hitler was a real eye-opener for me. On some level I was always wondering like Why has he done this / How is such to explain because the usual condemnation what one learn at school or books could not really give perspective or explain such behaviour what I found as well as other characters like bush, gaddafi etc. and within what he has revealed I could see and understand myself better, what is an ongoing process, for example in the terms of hatred for the systems and also the point of that one only sees the demons/ ego in others and what to fight it without realizing that in this one becomes a demon as self. Another was Lao Tzu on Oneness and obviously a lot more I mean the material I is so vast, that I have to admit that I have only read and watched a small part yet the whole History of Mankind Series!! I mean wow this is obviously a revelation! I remember watching video after video after video but also there some stood out The One where the human form was designed and the Systems placed in by/with the Sirians that was like a real Hahaexperience and a opening as connecting the dots. Or ghosts and Ufos. What I can see is that this points where all somehow present and of interest somewhere in my past as with the Ufos for example I was have some memories of reading about Ufos wondering if it is real. At some point family members and I got all exited of having possibly seen a Ufo. The same with ghosts, I had like books about unexplainable things The great Mysteries of our time. The System thing/theory was as well a point that I found in literature and made it to one of the made it to a basic foundation of my world-view We are systems, consisting of Systems, existing in Systems however here I could understand and still have to realize and live as myself that: They where placed there Life is more than The systems are to enslave. This is cool, because I find that this believe as knowledge and information that life exists as and consists of is still existent within me. So: I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to think and believe that Life exists as and consists of Systems only instead of realizing that its the other way round that the systems are created from life and thus exist as and consist of life In this time I established then also the understanding that God is everywhere from the System-theory as mentioned and another such realization in terms of knowledge and information that nothing is solid when looking at a table and hearing the teacher saying that the most space between the atoms is empty for me this was like a revelation that Wow the table is not really real, it is like fluid and rather consisting of the connections and empty- It seems I have been possessed by and created myself as a knowledge-systemdemon fuck- so I was running around for sometime with maybe 19 years or something and
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euphorically stating God is in this stone, God is here, you are god, I am godevery atom is god wow also interesting this brings up a point of a polarity-manifestation of a negative possession of a being within my world and my reality at the time who had after/on a trip the experience that everyone is watching him and following him, satellites, the government, the military everyone is watching him and out to get himI feared/judged this being at the time and judged him as wired yet it was quite the same only with a polarized Omen. Fuck this is interesting, because actually he was showing/revealing to me that which I tried to suppress as the fear of being controlled. What was missing in my understanding of Oneness as God is everywhere was the Equality as one can see in the example above I wanted to always escape the apparently negative and separate myself from it. I ignored the suffering in the world and actually beneath I was quite spiteful in this delusion: I would for example say or justify/explain that If I throw away food here, I in fact do something good for the starving people in Africa Because maybe a stork or another migrant bird comes, picks it up, flies to Africa shits there and so the fields will be fertilized In essence it is the same as to send love/light and warm prayers for the suffering people in the world, a justification to look away Ignorance. Obviously one can try to suppress and ignore suffering within oneself and the world but only for soo long and it will come back and this is like the second point or part that I see of why I was able to hear Destini was that I created and went through a lot of shit experiences in my life from losing my drivers-license, drug-addictions and withdrawals, breaking up relationships, arguments generally lots of self-abuse. I kind of was ready to hear the message because I saw that my previous ways where obviously not working and I the common sense that Desteni was presenting I could understand/see. As well those other beings are already walking and changing themselves. And in the end Oneness and Equality Principles are common sense. I mean love they neighbour as they self give to another what you want to receive thats how it should be already and should have been from the beginning. Life should not be a fight and strive for survival! Thus I will continue with walking the process of self-forgiveness and self-realisation with Desteni to stop the mind within and as myself. Its like there is a lot more to say or write but I will leave it at that for the moment. Thanks to All!

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ANNA BRIX THOMSEN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brot5WUzVxc

05 February 2012

Anna Brix Thomsen is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/24

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HILDA RAC
http://klofucius.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-could-hear-desteni-message.html

29 January 2012 When I was little, I felt there was something awfully wrong with the world. The better I got to know the human system of interaction and living, the more I was sure that something went terribly awry here. Plus, I couldn't shed the nagging feeling that I should be remembering something, but I didn't know what. It seemed strange to me that I couldn't remember my own birth, that I was not aware of myself immediately when I was born. Why was this? Where did I come from? Where was I before birth? Why can't I remember? As I was growing up, I slowly but surely forgot all these questions, because any and all quests for answers had brought me to a dead end. My mother was blabbering about some god that made me, which made absolutely no sense, because I couldn't remember and/ or see any god. Why would a god make me and put me on such an abusive planet, full of anguish, poverty, disease, hunger, rape, torture, wars and bullies, if he's so benevolent. The explanation that he works in mysterious ways wasn't enough for me. I knew and felt that there was more to this existence than what I am perceiving, therefore I came to the conclusion that god is an evil fuck, and I will kick his ass, if I ever get the chance. I completely and utterly hated god, while claiming that he cannot exist, lol. But I essentially hated humans for believing in a god and allowing such atrocities in his name. Even my own mother. My father was more of a scientific persuasion, which suited me a whole lot more. I stuck to what I could have knowledge about by seeing and/or experiencing. I didn't need a god to bear responsibility for all my fuckups, I faced them all head on, or at least that's what I thought. Little did I know that I had built myself into my own cocoon, a world of thoughts and perceptions, completely separated from the actuality of the world I had seen and known as a child. I used to look at my parents, who were so unhappy together, yet, by the time I grew up, I had developed an illusion of love and a hope that I might experience it after all, regardless of my parents failure to peacefully coexist. My longest relationship of 10 yrs was my attempt at making love work for me in this life, but as time passed by, I was realising more and more that I was lying to myself. I couldn't stay with this person any longer after 10 yrs of trying to actualize the idea of love in my head, when my body was telling me to get the hell out after 4 yrs of trying. I broke off the relationship, and kind of realised that a life long relationship is
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not possible for me, because clearly the connection ends after some years of living together. I tried pursuing some more romantic endeavors, but they all failed miserably, because the ideas of love in our heads were/are just too different. So in 2008 I was already completely disillusioned about love, I had seen Zeitgeist, which made me a little more hopeless about the situation in the world, I was quitting my faculty, because I perceived myself as unable to do it due to immense emotional distress I was going through, and I was trying to figure out what the hell to do next, now that I know that I cannot live like the rest of the world apparently can. I was a total mess, completely and utterly lost, fearful and totally constricted and limited within my own perceptions of the world. I hated everything and everyone for being dishonest and making me be dishonest with myself. I was wondering whether it wouldn't be better to just find someone, do the butterfly thing, marry them, and then cheat on them when the hormones stop working for the two of us. But I knew that I wouldn't be able to live with myself like that. I didn't like lying or being lied to, so how the hell could I live with myself like this until I die? I hated everything and everyone so very much, that I started being sure, hoping and wishing that a 2012 disaster will come. It seemed imminent enough. I browsed youtube for videos on 2012, and all of them gave some vague explanations and guesses about what is going to happen. After three days of pointless searching, I clicked on a video that was waaaay down in the related videos. It was a video of a young boy, who breathed out and in in the beginning. I knew what this was, as I had investigated the channeller phenomenon, and I also found out that scientific research of it came to a dead end, with some very interesting, yet inexplicable results. When the boy started talking, I noticed that there is something very different about this channelling, because the being talking was not being all dramatic, like with all other channellers I had seen. The being was telling me flat out that nothing is going to happen in 2012, the world will only become more fucked up, that I am responsible, along with everyone else, and that we're all equal, no one is higher than anyone else. I couldn't believe my eyes for a while. Everything I was seeing and hearing seemed completely accurate, but I couldn't believe that I actually found what I was looking for - a solution for this world and myself. I started investigating what I had found. First I found out that the boy is not a boy, but a girl. Then I started investigating, where they want money from me. This cannot be real, this must be fake, this must be a clever hoax to make money. The desteni I
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process course was not existing at that time, so there was actually NO MONEY WANTED FROM ME. All that was required, was to be able to hold a reasonable dialogue with members of the forum, but I couldn't even do that back then. My ego kept jumping out with emotional tantrums, and I kept being banned for my verbal indiscretions, which only gave me additional proof that this is for real, and that these people are not kidding around. That is how I started my Process. I watched and watched hundreds of videos, I watched them day and night. In the videos I got answers to my long forgotten questions from childhood, I had found the source for blueprints of this world and myself, and I was thrilled... But I started doing self-forgiveness for real only a year later, when I was forced to, because my family and therefore my whole "safe and secure world" fell apart, and I was left all alone to myself. That is when I stood up within and for myself by utilizing self-forgiveness, breathing and selfcorrective application. I started stopping my mind and gaining direction. The thing that impacted me most about Desteni was the promotion of Equality. I always felt that it was amazingly unfair that some people are perceived as more than others, and I always passionately opposed that kind of thinking. I couldn't stand someone thinking that they're more important than me, and now that I think about it, that's probably why I hated god in my mind. I hated the idea of something bigger than me being in charge, since this existence is clearly not something that would be made by a divine being, but rather by an intern with a bad attitude (I'm paraphrasing George Carlin here). When I heard what Desteni has to say, I was like: "YES!!! I do NOT have to live the way I beLIEved I would have to live!!!" I was completely delighted to finally have all the answers to questions I have long forgotten and had given up on them ever being answered. It was like coming home. A year later Desteni came up with the Equal Money System, an actual solution for this world that is based on actual research and common sense (and is not only a pipe dream of how things should be) which I stand for as one democratic vote. I am one vote for World Equality.

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ANTON FERNANDO
http://self-honesty.blogspot.com/2012/01/2012-how-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni.html

24 January 2012 I have been a "seeker" for a long long time. I suppose real happiness never came to me, so I had a natural interest in spiritual matters. Born and raised a Catholic, even within the church, I would be drawn to Christian meditation or retreats in search of the soul, the depth of me. I have been always looking for something deeper, profound, magical, that source within, sort to speak. That journey took me on a long road. Start by going to Hindu temples in Sri Lanka, which was a big No-No for a catholic boy like myself. I got really fascinated with Hindu God figures. I fell in love with the mystics of Hinduism. First Lord Ganesh, then Godess Kali, later God Krishna, just to name a few. Likewise, a bus load of Gurus also became my objects of worship. Namely, Sri Sri Ravishankar of Art of Living movement, Mr. Eckhart Tolle of The Power of Now, Swami A.C. Bhaktivadanta of ISKCON, and of course the all too famous Sai Baba of Putapathi India. Later part, I was into Buddism, namely the 10-day retreat provided by the dhamma vipassana group headed Mr S N Goenka. I spent some time doing the 10-day retreats in silence. In terms of spiritual voyages, I went to the ancient city of Maya Pur in Culcutta to visit the Hare Krishna International Headquarters to be with the real devotees of Krishna. Been there and Done that is the best way to describe my spiritual circus. Not to forget the numerous spiritual books I was crazy about all along. Deepak Choppra was a God of wisdom, loved his 'Ageless body Timeless Mind' book a long time ago. Recently, The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle took 3-4 years of my life. Yet, something was still missing, is it me? Am I not meditating enough? Am I not chanting enough? Am I not doing Sudharsan Kriya as taught by Sri Sri Ravi shankar enough? Am I not chanting the holy names of Lord Krishna enough? Am I not listening to Eckhart Tolle's audio tapes enough? Am I not reading Deepak Choppra enough? Am I not doing 10-day Vipassana retreats enough? What I am doing wrong, that feeling of empty hole is within me, raising its head once in a while. My curiosity about the world
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and afterlife still remains very high, as if I haven't learned anything over the years. Something is missing, even hugging the world famous Guru Sri Sri Ravi shankar has not removed that feeling of emptiness. That lost wondering feeling within me has not gone. Unplanned, I met desteni through their youtube videos while searching for Eckhart Tollevideos. I must have been lucky, I ran into one of desteni's inter-dimensional videos, I don't recall the details about the first video I watched, but I remember been stuck by it. I just couldn't believe to my eyes, what was I hearing or seen. It was something about Jesus, I mean Jesus himself was speaking. The desteni video was so real. Everything about it was so real. Following my first encounter with desteni inter-dimensional video, I spent hours looking at other videos as well. Later got into desteni forums and start participating. I began speaking self-forgiveness, and writing self forgiveness. As I read stuff written by Bernard Poolman and Sunette Spies, my fascination with desteni increased beyond I could ever ask for. Desteni is the real shit. I began to slowly but surely overcome my pre-programmed stuff about religions, gods, gurus, new age movement etc. My first victim was my dear Guru at that time, Mr Eckhart Tolle. Slowly but surely, I dumped Tolle, likewise I began to dump all the gurus of the past. Sad to say, Sai baba, Sri Sri Ravisharnkar, Lord Krishan, Lord Rama, Lord Ghanesh, Lord Buddha, Lord Jesus, St Anthony, St Mary, The Pope, The church, Buddism, Hinduism, Christianity, Vipassana Meditation, Hare Krishna, Art of Living, Deepak Chopra, and you name it, all those gurus and gods vanished from my mind within the first two years with desteni. Yes some took a while, the pre-programming must have been deep. I learned about me. I can be here without any god or guru, or any holy book. Desteni tools namely Self Forgiveness, self honesty, breathing, self writing and self expression through blogging and vlogging deeply assisted me. Later participating in the desteni-i-process really assisted me. And visiting the desteni farm to meet Bernard Poolman, Sunette Spies and other figures of amazement in desteni assist me to see me more. I lost the hero worship attitude I had towards Bernard and other farm members. Bernard is cool, but not a hero, or a guru, visiting the farm assisted me in just realizing, that this process is about me. Bernard is at a different point in his process, that's all, not a guru or a god, just another fucking human being like myself, who is walking his own process. My many layers of pre-programming started to peel of bit by bit. I started to see things that I
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never noticed. Simple things: Did I know that nearly 1 billion humans starve each day? Did I know how the capitalistic money system is destroying this world? Did I know that Banks and their controlling Gods rule this world in the name of making money at any cost? Did I know that elitists of the world rule this world, while slaves like me are working for them? Did I know since my childhood days, I have been programmed to be a loyal customer? Did I know that money is just a make belief that I was taught as real? Did I know that obeying God is designed so that I will be a good slave to the money making system? Did I know that my slavery to the money system has created a hell on this earth? Why didn't I notice all these common sense points before meeting desteni? Why didn't the gurus and gods before mention such things? Why is that I was only interested in self-bliss while the elitists and the money system is destroying the world? Why didn't I realize that there are real serious precarious problems in this world? Within first 2 years of desteni process, my pre-programming some what peeled off, allowing me to realize many shitty things about this world. What a shock. What a shocking realization that how much we have been blindly fucked by the media, banks, governments, gods, gurus,religions, etc etc etc. All in the name of making money. I am realizing how seriously we need an Equal Money System in this world. Also, all that search for the meaning-of-life, deeper quest for meaning, spiritual seeking, the desire for deep silent meditation, all that energy craving shit vanished. Now I live here and I have all the meaning in the world, that is to re-birthing myself as life through the physical, and bringing about Equal Money System to end all abuses everywhere. What a message, yes first I learned about them through desteni materials, but later I realized them for myself. I was able to hear the desteni message because I could see the common sense in it. The desteni message make sense, because it is common sense. Of course there were some things in the desteni materials I didn't get, for example the notes about Anu, or Atlantians, I didn't quite get them, and so I didn't even bother with them. Self forgiveness, self honesty, self expression, self trust, Equal Money System, I realize them well. This is 2012, it has been four since I met desteni, while I stand with the desteni group, at the same time I stand as me, as a destonian. My self standing matters as much as I stand with
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the desteni group. I am desteni. That is the common sense message I have been waiting for, so I was able to hear the desteni message. Now I am sharing this message with rest of humanity to birth a new planet, a practical heaven on earth via Equal Money System. What a message, What a mission, What a joy, What a journey, join us, if you dare to care and have some fun in the process. Anton Fernando is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/29

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LUKA NOVAK
http://lukaprocess.blogspot.com/2012/02/why-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

19 February 2012 I firstly heard about Desteni back in 2008, when my friend Bla told me about it. I was interested, but didn't find the idea of oneness and equality possible to exist. I was still very much under influence by books like Thiaouba Prophecy & The Freedom Of Choice and The Yourney Of Souls, which are based on "spiritual evolution" of the individual. It all made more sence to me than Desteni idea of oneness and equality. I believed that some people were more "spiritualy advanced" than others and the meaning of life is the spiritual evolution which is the evolution of consciousness. I watched the videos History Of Mankind, but didn't get impressed, because the nature of the videos, which was a lot of talking but in the same time a lot of repeating/empty words. That was back in 2008, Desteni.co.za was to me like any other page on the internet. My next encounter with Desteni was back in 2010, when my mental health problems began. I registered to the forum, introduced myself and seeked for help. Because I didn't participate on the forum, my account was soon deleted. My latest encounter with Desteni was in December 2011, when again my friend Bla was telling me about his Desteni process, blogging and DIP Course. This time I must say that I've managed to hear the Desteni message to the fullest. I love the idea of oneness and equality, all people being on the same level, no spiritual evolution, which was making me depressed thinking that I am on the low spiritual level and will thus have to reincarnate many more times. I registered on the Introduction To Desteni Forum, where I am active in reading and writing and I am also writing my blog about my Desteni process. I have this feeling for quite some time that I am living like an organic robot and that I have to change something somehow, but I don't know what and how. I think I will manage to do that with DIP Course, to which I have signed up lately. I managed to hear the Desteni message because it has so much common sense and doesn't include nothing esoteric. I also like the tools of self-forgiveness and self-correction, which I am trying to apply in my daily life. I support the idea of Equal Money System, because I understand that this is the system that is best for all and we have all the means to realise it. I am looking forward to start my Desteni I Process Course, because I understand that it will help me to come out of my illness and become a self-directive person.
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JOANA FERREIRA
http://joanaslifeprocess.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

05 February 2012 Desteni's message is about living the words. That, for me, was and still is fascinating. The first time I came across someone applying the tools of self-honesty, sharing selfforgiveness and actually walking the process was three years ago. By that time, my school friend Joao was giving his first steps in his process and I was amazed by what he was saying - In fact, I listened to him because I wanted to become like him - self-trust, self-honesty, consistency and actions based on common sense. In the beginning I did not know that a group of people around the world were already establishing a foundation to share such principles... One evening, Joao and I were at a bar when he wrote on a paper the following:

I didn't understand the meaning of it but I got interested in the mystery. One and Equal, he said. Everything that exists, all that is here; everything exists in Oneness and Equality. These words resonated with me. I didn't think of any spiritual ideas - for me I could apply such principles in international relations and politics, my core studies. Humanity as One Unity in peace - I was actually starting my last year at University and was focusing myself on the North-South interdependency and inequalities. Joao's actions and words during that summer were definitely reflecting that it is possible to change. No matter what the past has been, Here was/is the moment. I was starting to realise the simplicity of it and at the same time wanting to know more about all of it. I could see how the patterns of the human mind were manifested in politics at a global level: the bi-polarisation of the world, wars of power, superiority and inferiority, the divide-and-conquer theories, the invisible hand on the world economy...

Inside myself I knew there was something deeper and I guess everyone reflects upon it at some point in Life - Where do we come from? Who am I? Who's this body in front of the mirror? What are we doing Here? Where will I go after I die? Why am I thinking of dying if I am here alive? Where did my childhood dreams go? Why do I think in a certain way and other people differently? Why cant I take decisions? Why do people look at me? ... Since young age, I enjoyed psychology and the supernatural stories in films. I remember imagining a parallel reality and asking about dj vus to my science teacher. I started writing a movie script based on this story and in high-school I enrolled in a psychology module. I was curious about how our conscious, subconscious and unconscious minds work, why people have certain addictions, behaviours and disorders such as autism and what are these manifestations saying about us. Actually, one does not need to study psychology to fully understand what Desteni explains about the mind and who we are... Everything presented by Desteni in interviews and through the portal is about us, human beings, and all that which we have in common. So when I heard the videos about peoples childhood, suppressions, the memory, the system designs, the manifestation of cancer and the patterns of the mind, I was already opened to understand it better. I did not understand what they were saying about the white light, but the main message was definitely something I should listen to. Behind this curiosity was my willingness to help people and to share with them these alternative views, since it was supportive for me already. The information has been there since 2007 - What was I doing by then?! I was getting drunk at parties, while people on the other side of the world were discovering themselves in selfhonesty, writing, investigating and transcending limitations of the mind. We are all very close to hear what people from Desteni share, but at the same we allow ourselves to get distracted from ourselves by the entertainment in today's society. It is important to mention that religion had always been a strong component in my thoughts curiously, only recently I realised how strong it was! I grew up in a catholic family and never considered changing the habit. However, I had been very confused in my mind for a couple of years and I remember becoming stressed when praying. There was a constant fear of making mistakes and of being punished. It was like a parallel world inside my mind - I was projecting myself into the future and wanting to control everything around me to make sure I would survive in this world - this fear kept me away from changing and searching for new perspectives. The idea of being protected by Jesus and God was a comfort. What if things are completely different? What will I do with all the knowledge and information I have
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accumulated about my belief? I was aware that religion was a comfort but I never considered that such feeling was not real. The need to hold onto something, whether an idea or a book, was based on the fear of losing myself (as memories, ideas, personality). The accumulation of guilt, of fear and of regret within me was a heavy weight that I was holding myself onto. I was the one limiting myself and believing that I would always be like this - I was believing that this is "me". - How limiting can this be!? I was the one creating a prison in my mind and I was allowing myself to accept myself as that prison! The belief itself was also part of the game in my mind. I was creating my own belief and justifying it as the only way I could survive. Such self-manipulation and self-sabotage is the foundation of religion. Not so much the message share by Jesus but rather an interpretation of it to justify our existence thus far. One day I realised that such inner conflict was doing more harm than good so I stopped praying. I stopped believing. And I was alright. This happened when I re-started writing. I was now opening points within myself that had been kept inside for too long. Joao and people on the Desteni Forum were helping me by listening, writing to me and directing me towards a way out: self-honesty and self-responsibility. Writing Self-Forgiveness on a daily basis became as essential moment for me. The fact that I stopped hiding myself from me allowed me to deal with my own self. Since I was no longer attached to Christianity, I decided to study Cultural Relations and International Politics as part of my last year at University, focused on Hindu, Muslim and Buddhist societies. The main message shared by all these religions of self-awareness and of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" was clearly very similar to Christianity. On the other hand, the inequality and abuse was also accepted as "holy"! I could associate the influence of the human mind explained in Desteni's materials - all societies are in fact a manifestation of what we, human beings, allow ourselves to become. The consequences of our own allowances are creating the mess in this world. In essence, corrupt human beings will corrupt everything they touch. Societies are a reflection of human beings as a whole. Nothing will change unless we take self-responsibility for what we accept and create in this world. This world is real. Beliefs aren't. If we know that we are all One, why do we accept separation, inequality, war and abuse? The more I was reading from Desteni, the more I realised that politics and international relations are the external projection of individual patterns within each one of us. Can you see how internal wars and bipolar minds are manifested in History? Hidden agendas and secret diplomacies based on personal fears, childhood distrust, patterns of inferiority, past mistakes,
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beliefs, self-judgements and egocentrism. In politics, human life is completely disregarded and the whole set is a game without any kind of respect for mankind.As human beings we dont really esteem ourselves and we are not educated to do so. Quite the contrary, our selfexpression is suppressed and principles are replaced by competition. Forget the countries and the borders -- we are our own enemies. The human mind has the capacity to trap oneself with internal ghosts, persecutory delusions and all different kinds of paranoia.Now we understand why there's no peace to be remembered in this world: Human beings have never been in peace with themselves. By looking at other people's experiences in the world (including in my family) I easily understood that if I didn't change myself I knew how I would end up - as regret, as fear of the future, as illusion, as a believer, as inactive, as attached to ideas, as failed relationships, as sick of Life. So I decided to dedicate the rest of my life to self-perfection Here, on Earth, for real. By that time, with 22 years of experience in this world, I realised that I don't have choice other than to take a different direction. I don't know exactly the day I took this decision within me because there is no such thing as "the moment that I will be ready ". It was and still is a process. Through my participation on the Forum I understood things within me, in my past, in my relationships with my family and ex-boyfriends. I was amazed with people dedicated in perfecting themselves and supporting one another as equals in the process of re-birthing from the physical. When Joao first told me about the Desteni I Process course, I was hesitating since I thought it to be just another self-motivation course with beautiful ideas that only exist in movies. But when I read the course plan, I was so pleased to see that I was going to study something new about the humans Life, including the patterns of the mind, resonance alignment, the origin of thinking, our relationship with others, mind constructs, memories and tools to correct oneself in the moment. There are still many things that I am learning. I was and still am astounded by the depth of the message and its universality - it is applied to all sectors of society, of Life and of existence. I can see myself in all interviews and videos, as well as in blogs from Destonians. It helped me to see the big picture and to put the dots together: self is Here, everything that matters is made of the same matter. My political approach changed. I must put myself in anothers shoes and see that inequality is not the heritage I want to pass on. I am responsible for this moment in time, for each decision I make regardless of the scale of it. It doesnt matter if I am deciding for two people
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or for a whole country: any decision must be the best for all. Otherwise it is not a decision, it is a deception. I must be able to let go of all the ideas that I have created of a perfect future such brainwashing is a limitation based on images of the perfect professional, the perfect lifestyle, the perfect diplomat, the perfect mother or the perfect teacher - self-limitations based on experiences and movies I watched. Such dreams are nightmares completely disconnected from reality. Knowledge and information require to be applied into practical answers, here and now, and thats what a career should be made of. Within my process I see the effectiveness of self-forgiveness and, if we want to change international relations for the best of all, the same must be applied accordingly: I forgive myself for having accepted and allowed myself to participate in this world as the ego, as the need to be superior and to prove myself to others. I forgive myself for having accepted and allowed myself to believe to be inferior to anyone else. I forgive myself for having accepted and allowed myself to think that I deserve more than anyone else and by this I realise that I am one and equal with everyone. (Excerpts from the article Self-forgiveness and
international Relations)

Lets imagine that everyone become self-honest! How many systems would/will change if we no longer accept abuse inside-outside? Let's look at the economic system: this one is a good example of how consumed human beings are by separation, greed and perceptions of power. In the end, such mind possessions are costing people's lives every day. So when I read about the Equal Money System I completely got into it. I was studying the problems at University and never heard a Professor suggesting solutions! This was the best I ever heard. After coming across the directiveness and consistency in Desteni's proposed solution, I realised how blind I was towards the money system. By putting myself in other people's shoes, I see that I do not want injustices to happen to me or to my family (Arent' we all one big family?). The economic injustice has to stop. From my experience working in charities and feeling good about helping others, I did not understand how people could be greedy and why poverty existed in the world. I just did not want to see that greed was also within me, manifested in competition at school, towards my sisters, in sports, etc. ... The same pattern was creating poverty in the world. I was responsible for such acceptance. The economic system is the perfect reflection of how corrupt human beings can become. The worst blind is the one that doesn't want to see ... Interestingly, I had the same blindness
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towards religion, in accepting things the way they are told without questioning. Apparently, it is easier to do so, but the price we are already paying is too high. We must take a stand and be responsible for it. Even though one might have resistances when listening to Desteni's videos in the beginning, the point is to put the message into practice. I clearly see the benefits of walking in selfawareness in my process; once I realise certain patterns, it is impossible to ignore it. I am now able to stop, breathe and take direction. By seeing in others that it is possible to change, I have no choice than to become that change too! If I had never come across Desteni I would probably believe that things would naturally (with God's help) improve and that my children would bring hope to the world. Now I see that there are no miracles and no heroes. We are all self-creators of this reality and responsible for creating Heaven on Earth. If the patterns of the mind are manifested at an individual level, the sum of its parts reflect the international scene - now we know where conflict, world wars and violence starts, thus we are able to stop it within each one of us. I definitely suggest everyone to read and hear what Destonians have to say. It is amazing how people's experiences are so similar across cultures and countries. One will see the benefits of this message in one's own life - we are all supporting each other to support oneself. When I met Destonians for the first time I saw that a better world is totally possible: people sharing the same house (planet) in self-support, without wanting to appreciate neither competing with each other. Each one is in the process of becoming ones self-example thus creating a better version of humanity. Any decision that would come out of this would definitely be for the best of all. As I looked at everyday's news on issues that affect the world, I soon realised that something was not alright in the way we think, perceive life and act. I see that Desteni answers many questions based on deep investigation and practical analysis, combining the study of the mind, Self-Forgiveness, common sense and solutions for Historys/humans mistakes. All I/ we have to do is to become the solution and stop existing as the problem.

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NELSON FORD
http://blogsofnelson.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/how-i-was-able-to-hear-the-desteni-message/

18 February 2012 My life was one of much inner conflict as my parents were old school and my father was militant and did not spare the rod! My mother was into church and it was a big part of life growing up! From being a born again christian at one point, as my depression got the best of me, I dedicated my life to doing the work of god! After that ended a few years later, I was back to not giving a shit about much, angry with the world, ready to fight at any time, I found myself in pure conflict! Being in the army in West Germany, (before wall opened) didnt help! Belief in god, while feeling horrible inside. Parents now deceased, it is actually just me now and my wife of that time. Years later, I was introduced to spirituality, by a girlfriend (now my ex) and started the CWG books hoping to understand this world and myself. Purchased almost every book Walsch printed up to Tomorrows God, thought I had finally found the answers to everything and felt good about it! Then a friend gave my girlfriend a dvd called The Secret, and it was the original production first seen on Oprah. I thought it was an addition to all the revelations I received from the Walsch Chronicles, and I believed in the LOA to the extent that I bought dvds, made copies and gave them to friends even left copies in the subway stations going to and from work throughout Manhattan NY because I thought it could actually change someones life! I talked about it at work and watched it myself about fifty times, but I had no proof because my life didnt actually prove that the Secret worked it was a dream that seemed real! I always wondered why people starved in this world, and why people could wipe out a community, or drop bombs that destroy thousands of people and animals and even plant life! I wondered why we were poor all the time growing up even though we went to church and gave offerings etc. I wondered why some people were extremely rich and myself and others were poor and barely making ends meet! To place all this in perspective, I experienced homelessness again in my life in 2007 after not being able to return to my job, so I left my ex in NY and went south. In the fall of 2007, I was in a library watching vids on Pleiadians, wayshowers, and different spiritual/ufo type vids. I saw a vid entitled UFOs Fake or Real. There was this young girl on the video, but she breathed
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in, then out and said her name was Jack! I just listened to see what was said as I had heard just about any and everything about the unknown, so I thought! I am not sure how I was able to here the Desteni msg after listening to more and more vids from this young girl (Jack), but when the topic of god and demons etc. came up, I was all in! Then self responsibility, self forgiveness, and self honesty, was shared along with breath, and why sugar exists, and many topics. I never would have gotten a youtube acount but it was needed to participate with this group of people, mainly Andrea, Darryl, Sunette, and Bernard at that time but here was something different that I had not heard of before. The physical is the key, the mind is illusion. It made common sense even though religion teaches that the physical is not real but the spiritual world is more real! Brainwashing was also very real! There are many events that happened within all this but this is basically how it played out for me!

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JOSEPH NDUNGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrVd-SKf29w

23 January 2012

Joseph Ndundu is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/133

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ROZELLE DE LANGE
http://rozelledelangeblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/2012-how-i-was-able-to-hear-desteni.html

21 February 2012 I was 14 years old when I met Bernard through my cousin Esteni whom he is currently in an agreement with. My process started out with being friends with Bernards daughter Cerise. We spent a lot of time together and I would often go and visit her for long periods at a time. So a short history of my life before I met them. Throughout my life I was a typical black sheep both in my own family system as well as most of the schools I attended within my life at that time. My relationship with both my parents was abuse orientated in the sense of beatings as well as verbal arguments on almost a daily basis. I was a very angry young girl with many conflicted feelings and emotions within me. Most of my anger was directed towards my father with whom our primary relationship was one of abuse which was mostly physical beatings. I never had any real communication with both my parents, and within this I always got a sense that my father didnt want me as his child because he would go out of his way to avoid any real conversation with me. Living within my family and being a black sheep, I already developed a very shit view of myself within viewing myself as a failure and not worthy to live. This was born from always feeling rejected and abused within my family whilst at the same time observing what a good relationship my parents had with my younger sister. So naturally I thought that there must be something wrong with me because my own parents dont love me and act like they dont want me. These feelings of rejection, self-pity, self-hate and having no self-worth steered me in the direction of becoming a very wild and rebellious girl. Within my interaction with people outside my home I projected myself as being a very fun, adventurous and open-minded person. And I made friends with many different types of people. Also a point to note here is that I mostly only made friends with males as I never really associated myself with girls because I could never relate to them. At that stage I believed that is was due to the fact that their conversations were always extremely shallow and that they just didnt understand
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me because they all came from rich families and had no worries within their life like I had. Another self-realization I had since walking my own process within Desteni is that these reasons I had for not relating to girls were all just a cover-up for the real point which was at play, which was that I reared my attention and friendships towards males specifically because I was in fact attempting to get from them that which my father wasnt giving me, which was love, acceptance and affection. I was also very loud within my communication whenever I would become excited within speaking to someone. It was only once Bernard pointed out to me the reason why I usually speak in a loud tonality that I realized for myself that I was in fact seeking attention from whoever gave an interest in me (as mentioned above, it was always towards guys). Again, this was all an attempt to get from the outside world that which my parents werent giving me, which I experienced as love, affection, acceptance and appreciation. For the first 2 years of knowing Bernard and being friends with Cerise, I would often go and visit them for a week or 2 at a time. During these visits Bernard would always point out points to me within my physical behavior and so on, within which I would immediately see the common sense of what he was sharing, but at the same time I was a bit fearful because he didnt communicate like other people as he would cut through the bullshit and speak about real things. The subjects which in a conditioned society were viewed as points which you are apparently not supposed to question and instead keep it hidden and suppressed. During these visits Bernard gave me books by Osho to read. Now in terms of the point how I was able to hear the Desteni message, Oshos writings were one of the initial reasons which led to me being able to hear the Desteni message without fear. Because before reading Oshos books I was limiting myself by my own fear which was projected by thoughts of what will my mother and father think?, what will others say of me?etc. I mean this was all a natural response because I had been brought up and conditioned to never consider self and to instead just follow the rest like a good little sheep. So the fear was that if I left the flock that I would be exiled and punished for some reason. So after the visits I would go home to complete chaos which existed as my family life at home. This is where I saturated myself with Oshos writings. His writings opened my mind to another way of seeing, because he would simplistically explain many of the points which I had existent deep within me as those questions never to be asked. So Oshos books were definitely a big stepping stone for me within assisting me to being able to hear the Desteni
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message. Fast forward 2 years. I was 16 years old and it felt like I lived a double life. One being the girl I was when I was home where I experienced myself as angry, sad, frustrated, depressed and suppressed. The other part of me was this awakened side within me where I had learnt so much about myself and understood now how certain things really worked. This side of me only came out and when I was visiting Cerise. At home, the beatings I was receiving from my father had reached a stage where I all I wanted to do is run away. This was not an option because obviously I had no money to survive. So the fear of not surviving outside my family system, kept me in place. So I started to run away within sneaking out at night to go to parties where I would get completely shit-faced with alcohol and drugs. During the same year I had approached Bernard and asked him and my cousin Esteni if I could move in with them. My reason being that my relationship with my father was spiraling out of control (which had reached a stage where I was having internalized back chat of wanting to kill him for what he has put me through). They opened the doors for me and said I could come and stay with them. Bernard gave me one condition though, which was the worst condition within my mind. I had to go back home and face my father and apply forgiveness with him. I had to apply forgiveness on the points I had contributed towards our conflicted relationship and I also had to forgive him for what he has done to me. So with a lot of resistance I went back home and spoke to my father in front of by-standers where I stood up and told him about my choice to move out firstly, and then I went through the forgiveness process by forgiving myself as well as him. The biggest point for me was to ask him for forgiveness for everything I had done to contribute towards our relationship which had resulted in such an immense hate I carried within me towards him. This was truly a big point for me to face, and I cried a lot through this process of forgiveness and letting go. So then I moved in to live with Bernard, Esteni, Cerise and LJ. I worked within the computer department for the software business. LOL a point I just remembered is one day before work started, Bernard had a meeting with all of us workers at the computer dispatch. I remember him saying to all of the workers that if it were up to him, everyone in the world would get the same salary for working, irrespective of what job description they have. I also remember not knowing at that moment how to place that statement. It just confused me. And here we are today with the proposal of the Equal Money System being presented as the solution to the worlds problems. Interesting to connect it now to the vision which was briefly shared in our staff meeting all those years ago.
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I was still living with them when Sunette came to live with us. So I was witness to many new changes during this time when the portal opened up. Then more people came to live with us and I witnessed how easily they grasped the messages that were shares. However what was happening within me from around the time the portal opened up is that I went through a process of firstly being jealous towards Sunette for being able to see the inter-dimensions etc. Then as others started to join, I participated within comparison towards all the beings. I had the backchat of maybe something is wrong with me because I should also be able to be at their level of understanding and application due to the fact that I have been here so long already. And more and more I found myself within this deep and dark hole which I had created out of self-judgment and self-pity. I mean there were times where I felt so shit about myself that I had the experience while lying on my bed of being unable to physically move myself. And I pretended of course that I was OK, but really there was this inner turmoil which I had created all by myself which was the truth of who I was at that time as I had accepted and allowed it to be/become me. So when I was 18 years old, these self-judgments and constant comparison to everyone around me had accumulated to a point where I made a decision to move out and go back into the system. The backchat which I allowed myself to feed into within making this decision was thoughts of I dont fit in here, Im simply not good enough, Id better go before I get asked to leave, and all kinds of other similar thought patterns. So then I was back in the system. FUCK! It was so difficult for me to adjust again because I had been used to being around beings who speak openly about points relating to self/others/ the world with common sense. I had been used to communicating with Cerise on a daily basis and I missed all of the realness we shared whenever I would for instance have gone to her to discuss a point I was facing within myself. In the system people dont speak about what exists within them, because we are taught to suppress it to such an extent that we end up forgetting about ourselves completely. It took me a few months to come to a point of regretting the decision I had made to leave. I had no one except for my parents who werent any real kind of support or assistance other than providing me with a place to sleep and food to eat for the first 3 months. During this time the old patterns of abuse surfaced and I was back in the same house I had left a few years earlier. I worked hard at this time to find a job so that I could get out from under their roof to be by myself. I found a job as a candidate estate agent and office administrator for the same
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branch. I worked 7 days a week for 5 months to keep myself going in terms of paying rent and feeding myself. I was now in the process of creating a survival personality for myself where I pushed myself to let go of the past and to do what is required to make it within this world. But this wasnt working out too well for me because within me I was in a state of complete self-mutilation. I smoked weed almost every night to assist within the suppression of everything that I was experiencing within me. And each day when I woke up and walked out of my front door I would put on this perfect smiley face and fool everyone into believing that I was someone who I absolutely was not. So Ill fast forward a bit to the part where I met the guy for whom I dropped everything for (my job, my work etc.) in order to go and live with him in Johannesburg which was also a city I had never been to (maybe driven through). He was filthy rich and because he loved me so much he was willing to give me anything I wanted. I had been living with him for about 2 months when I realized that he was completely possessive over me. I couldnt have friends in the system if he didnt approve of them. I had to wear only the best clothes if I was going even to the shop with him to buy bread and milk. The list goes on. It went on like this for a while when I realized that I was completely miserable inside because I wasnt being my natural self with him. I was being who he wanted me to be. So all I wanted to do it get out fast. But I had a dilemma, because here I was living the perfect life with having only the best of the best. And the choice to leave him would mean that I would have to go back to surviving. I made the choice to leave him and the move out of the apartment took about a month. I literally had R3000 with which I had to pay one months rent for in the city next to Johannesburg, and within that time I had no option but to find a job quickly or else I would have no money to pay for rent and essentially survive. So this move was extremely stressful and I placed another mental armor suit around myself with which I toughened myself up so that I could again go out and put on the smiley face and pretend that everything is fine so that I could get a job. I will again fast forward through many shit experiences to the point where I had secured a job as being a PA for 2 attorneys of which one was a director of the firm. I worked my ass off for these 2 beings and often stayed after hours until 8pm to finish my work for the day (I had a set of office keys because I had to open up every morning). The one attorney treated me like absolute shit and acted like the sun literally shined out of her ***. I felt completely trapped within this job because I had no other option but to stay where there was money. Jobs were extremely scarce as they still remain today for the average person. Even though I worked so hard at this job, I got paid a measly salary which literally afforded me to pay for
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the room I had within a student commune, my petrol to and from work and about R400 left to feed myself with for an entire month. Because this was not enough, I went out to search for jobs in night clubs as a bar tender. This is what I did for extra money. It involved basically selling myself to men just so that I could get a lousy tip from them. Selling in the sense that we were expected by our boss to wear tops which show a lot of cleavage. Also I had to put up with drunken guys talking to me about how beautiful I am which would lead to their inner sexual backchat coming out. All while having a smile on my face and again pretending that everything is OK when all I wanted to do is run away and escape. But I couldnt because I needed the money. So my escape was again taking drugs and drinking, which was an attempt to numb everything I was experiencing as my life. The year 2009 was the year in which I was convinced that I was going to kill myself because this was the year in which the system completely annihilated me. Everything went wrong within every aspect of my life. There was a stage where I could afford to feed myself only every 3rd to fourth day. This was extremely tough for me to get used to and I got but a taste of what hunger pains feel like. It makes me so angry to know that there are millions experiencing this every day of their lives within our current money system. I mean I couldnt last 4 days, imagine what they are having to endure. Anyways, so I lost my job and I had no money to pay next months rent. My parents helped me out a little my transferring a few hundred rand into my account with which I used to put petrol in my car to go to job interviews as well as to fax my C.V. to every vacancy I could find. Nothing was giving so I was forced to sell everything I owned (which wasnt much). The last desperate measure was approaching my land lady to ask her if she would buy my double bed from me (as she was looking for a second hand one). She refused because she didnt want me sleeping on the floor, but I got a buyer for it and used the cash to pay one last month of rent. This was the month when I realized I had no choice but to get enough money for petrol so that I could drive back to Kwa-Zulu Natal to live with my parents. I moved in with them again and slept on a mattress on the floor in their study because they had moved into a 2 bedroom place and had no spare room for me. During this time I was completely depressed and slept a lot with again the experience of not being able to move myself physically. My parents were worried about me but because we never had any effective communication relationship established, they didnt know how to talk to me about what I was experiencing. I had given up on myself completely and was so tired of this life of just trying to keep my head above water I was at this point willing to let myself
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slip away and drown. But again, started toughening myself up to face the system to get a job again and get back onto my feet. As a temporary point for money I was bar tending again at a night club while I was searching for a real job lol. I was back in my home town where I knew most of the locals living there, so I quickly slipped into a night lifestyle of drinking and partying every night. This time it became extremely abusive. I would wake up in the mornings with bruises on my body with no recollection of how they got there. So this was around the time when LJ made contact with me and suggested that I visit the farm. Shortly after, Esteni contacted me telephonically and invited me to come and visit for a weekend. I resisted it a lot initially because I knew that I would face myself head on at the farm. And who I was and had become while living in the system for those few years had been a person I didnt want to face at all. But I went anyways and forced myself to push through my resistances to doing so. OK fast forward again. Many of you know that I currently live on the Desteni farm. I have taken you through a very brief timeline of my life because the point I want to share is how I was able to hear the Desteni message. I was able to hear the Desteni message for the first time without my mind filtering it and changing it into something else when I moved to the farm. I arrived and started working through the lesson material within the Desteni I Process and found it so simplistic and amazing at the same time because here was a course laid out in such specific detail which had one purpose assisting and supporting me to assist and support myself. Also meeting everyone who is walking their individual processes this made it so easy to realize that if they can do it then so can I. And then I realized that what Desteni presents as a solution is in fact possible because of the power we have within walking as a group. I mean here you have individuals who have come together from every walk of life who are assisting and supporting each other regardless of their histories. This coming together of individuals is not something you see within the world. Instead you see separation to the utmost extent. In the system all I wanted to do is die instead of standing up for a solution, because when you stand alone you have no strength (within this context) because the system is superior in every way. Before I left to go back into the system those years back, there wasnt yet the solution of Equal Money. So when I arrived here and was introduced to the Equal Money System point, it all just made so much sense. I never questioned it for one second. And the reason I believe I was able to really in fact hear the Desteni message this time around is because I had been in the system and I had witnessed all of the deception we as humans exists as and create all in the name of survival. I lived that deception in-and-out daily just so that I could survive.
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It is nothing except for common sense to see that this world requires changing and that the only way to do that is by changing ourselves from the inside out so that we align ourselves to the principle of creating and living that which is best for all. This is the only way we will be able to change this abusive world. It starts with us. See, before I wanted to (and did) run away and escape from myself and having to take responsibility for myself. I now know where that road leads to and it is not living; it is not life. However it took me having to walk that road for a while so that I could realize this. So that I could come to a point where I stop running away from my selfresponsibility and my responsibility towards this world as myself. There is no other way but to take responsibility to become the change we want to see within this world. Desteni is like a family in the sense of the togetherness we share with each other within standing for a solution. And the support and assistance shared within this family is remarkable. Imagine I share real communication, assistance and support with beings I have never met in the physical before. This alone shows that we are able to change the world if we all align ourselves to the message of Desteni which is establishing equality in our world (not individualized mental realities/worlds but the world we all share together here in the physical). Creating a world which is best for all in all ways - Its a simple message, yet many would choose to time-loop like I have just to avoid the simple point of standing up and taking responsibility. Thanks for reading. Rozelle de Lange is a DIP Agent - http://desteniiprocess.com/recruiters/u/14

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LARRY MANUELA
http://lmanuela-mylife.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-was-i-able-to-hear-desteni-message.html

21 January 2012 Let me start by going back to explain a little about what i was doing before i came across the desteni people sharing their message. As long as i can remember since i was a little boy, i saw in life that something is wrong, but of course you don't have the vocabulary to ask the right questions to yourself. So i was quiet within myself always watching and observing and tried to figure out why the things are the way they are, why does it have to be so...?? That was the main question i was asking myself a lot, when i was a kid and even in my teenage years, even though if you knew me back then it would not be noticeable. I was a quiet person, but not so much because i am afraid of people, but more because i saw that i have things or questions within that when i looked at the people's lives, it didn't look like those questions that i had, they might be having those questions, because all their conversations were about things that were considered ''normal'' in life. And the questions i had within me were not what would be considered as ''normal.'' So my whole life was more like me being an observer/keep it to myself. When i got into the junior high, and started to learn about more things that i didn't knew before, i also saw something else, that it was boring, because it was like, and it is like this up to this day. You are been given something to learn and it is written in the form of facts, and all you need to do is copy it in your head and the better you are in copying, the better student you will be, because you can memorize things very good. But i had problem with the whole thing, i didn't like it, seem to easy. But one more time, i didn't have at the time the right questions due to my poor vocabulary so i can ask myself and my peers critical questions, regarding the materials we are being given at school to learn, or anything for that matter, that matters in life. My real quest started when i got to Holland to study, here is where i started to read at first i read the bible, but there was more contradiction in it, so i continue reading a lot of stuff, i was like a sponge sucking every information i could, from mysteries and the esoteric, the sciences that dealt in matters that were trying to explain why we are here and stuff like that. But eventually i got to a website once that is called: ''the Wingmakers''. And i read and read a lot of that
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material and it was intriguing, but it seem to difficult to do, it is as if you have to be a scientist and a very learned person in symbolism and signs and stuff like that to really understand it all. But in all that it was the first time that i heard or in this case read, that: ''Anu, had something greater in mind, and that was that he wanted to control that which was greater then him.'' Now i have heard from Anu before, because of the esoteric materials i was reading and the history of the Sumerians where their is mentioned the Annunaki race. And i also heard/read of him in other channeling materials that were being given here on this planet specifically from Ramtha. But Ramtha didn't say, that he wanted to control that which was greater and more then him. And that was the ONE thing that i kept within me, that somehow was like a great realization, something that i needed to hear, like this will lead me to somewhere, to some real answer. And it was just that one sentence, it was not like the writer of the wingmakers material went into a whole explanation of why it is and all that, that Anu wanted to control that which was greater then him. So one evening i was watching videos on youtube that i normally do all the time, and i saw a girl, now i know that the girl's name is Sunette, and i just saw the name in the heading ANU...............so i immediately said to myself: '' let me watch this one, to see what she has to say about this Anu. And i saw her in the video breathe in and breathe out and out she went from her body, which to me was nothing unusual or strange or whatever, one more time, because i was already coming from the esoteric and channeling materials and those kind of stuff seem all familiar, it is not the first time. And it was this:desteni video I watched that video over and over again and sometimes i still do, it was the greatest message of what i considered to be of something that i needed to know, when i saw that video. And since that day onward i read and saw all the videos that desteni had placed on the web and i have even joined them in spreading this message of oneness and equality, because i realize that this is truly, and this what i am about to say is NOT a believe, that this is our only way out of our own creation...!!! Now one can say, that i was fortunate to have ventured on the load of information in this world which made it easy for me to understand their message and see the common sense in it, but it was not the information or the knowledge i had, it was my ability to question the things i have read in my life, that really made me understand their message, because of everything i have ever read or saw in my life, i was always questioning them, from people to things. Let me just say, to
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me questioning itself was like the answer, because when you question something, you will see the question itself is the answer, because the question is what is missing. Can you grasp this..?? Let me give you an example of how i do that. Question: '' why are we HERE..???..'' To you maybe this is just a question that a lot of people on this planet is asking or have been asking throughout history and they are looking for an answer. To me it is not about the answer, i look at the question itself, and when i look at that it is the answer to myself telling myself what I am ,missing and i am forming that as the above mentioned question, so it means to me, that I am missing the reason why i am HERE, so why am i here as the question to myself is what i am missing and is then what i am not living. To you this maybe very difficult to understand, but if you look at it in common sense you will see, that what i mean is this: '' when we live something for real, it is and become part of and as you, it is who you are, so you cannot, NOT be knowing who and what and why or where you are..'' These are all realizations for us to see that we are NOT really living as life as we may believe we are in fact. Because in factual living, in always being HERE, there is no question, you are expressing yourself as all that you are right HERE. As long as we have questions it means we are not living the very questions we are having concerning LIFE..!! Thanks.

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About Desteni
What is Desteni?
Desteni is a group of people whose passion and profession is to work together on solutions for the world. Quickly a dedicated community emerged around Desteni and together Desteni and its community have produced and released 10 000 (and counting) free videos and published countless articles and blog posts on subjects ranging from personal relationships, money, sexuality, the mind, spirituality, the world and how to identify and take on the problems and issues presented within each topic. Desteni has its own Social Network called Destonians.com, and has branched out its community to various internet platforms such as Facebook, video sharing sites such as Youtube and has its own Leadership Development Forum for members who have made it their life goal to developing solutions for the world. Below are the various projects and interests that the Destonians established with combined effort of people all around the world.

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Equal Life Foundation

The main object for which the Company is formed is to undertake research and education in the areas of leadership skills development, psychology, food production and management, environmental studies, educational curriculum software development, equal economic remodeling, global warming solutions, group behaviour, and other areas related to the promotion and establishment of equal rights on a global scale.

Destonians Social Network

Destonians.com is a social network focused on bringing practical change to the world through its members becoming effective, considerate and responsible human beings. Members focus on investigating the world we live in, how it functions and operates. What it is that drives human beings each day. What are the motivations, reasons and starting points for how we exist within this world. Through this research practical solutions are created, shared and applied by anyone who is interested.

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Desteni Wiki contains material that will support one within and through all aspects of life, ranging from understanding and being able to direct ones feelings, emotions, thoughts, relationships, beliefs, society to world structures.

Desteni Wiki

This is a one-of-a-kind resource presenting research and practical solutions to personal as well as global problems. The focus is on wholeness, completeness and practicality of the solutions and their implementation.

Desteni I Process
The Desteni I Process (short DIP) is a life coaching training program designed after years of research and investigation. This course has been developed for people that are looking for education that is not available at schools and universities. This is a journey into the deepest core of the human being as it currently exists. Youll learn how and why you think, experience emotions and feelings, make decisions and how to align it all so that youre in charge of your life. In general, through the DIP, one is learning and applying tools to remove self doubts, overcome ones limitations and master introspection. In doing so, one is able to expand ones abilities and skills to become an effective human being within this world as it currently exists. DIP is a system to not only assist and support yourself through seeing who and what you are,but its also a way to make a monthly income through assisting and supporting others to do exactly the same see and change themselves. We provide coaching and mentoring to help people attain financial freedom and live a better life. Within the simple equation of 1+1=2, the DIP participants, slowly but surely stand as an example for others as they are proving that real change is possible. For more information visit The Official Desteni I Process Website
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The Agreement Course is a one-year course wherein the focus is on establishing effective agreements with self and others as self. This is thus the process where one will be changing/ transforming ones relationship with self and/or ones partner and/or other from Relationships of Energy/Mind to Agreements of equality and oneness. This means that the Agreement Course can be walked both alone and with a partner. The purpose of the course is the transformation of relationships of inequality, and compromise, secrets, deception and abuse (with self and/or another being) to Self-Honest Agreements of equality, dignity, consideration, integrity, respect and expression. Note that this is a practical and interactive course where you will be walking with-us in real-time through the various phases and challenges encountered within the establishing and walking of an Agreement. Participants in the Agreement Course are thus expected to actively engage themselves through completing practical assignment-exercises and implementing them within their daily lives. As a participant you will be assigned a buddy who follows your participation and will assist you in ensuring effective understanding of the material and the tools provided throughout the course. Depending on your effectiveness and skills, you will require spending half an hour to an hour daily to study the lesson material and complete the practical assignment-exercises. Understand, though, that the main purpose of the course is for you to implement your understanding and tools within your daily life. It is only within living what you learn that the true value of agreements becomes apparent; walking an Agreement becomes a lifestyle that will change and transform yourself, your relationships with other beings and the world around you as a whole.
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DIP participant testimonies:

Gian Robberts
Gian Robberts is A DIP agent - http://desteni.org/profile/58

Kelly Louise Posey

Kelly Posey is A DIP agent - http://desteni.org/profile/63
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I knew immediately that the Desteni I Process was something I had to be involved in- there is no other education offered today that is anywhere near as effective and comprehensive and that guarantee results far beyond what you can get anywhere elseand at a much more affordable price. The Desteni I Process is the future of education. It is worth every penny and more for the skills I have developed and the limitations Ive transcended- I now live life in a fuller way than I even imagined possible. With each lesson, I gain more of myself as I really get to know who I am and who Id like to be. And then I am given the tools and training to actually live it- which is so ultimately satisfying. You cant find that anywhere else- and thats why I am in the Desteni I Process.

I started with the DIP/SRA course in 2009, when I first heard of the tools such as muscle communication and testing with our own bodies for answers I did not expect it to work, but I was proven wrong within days of applying the tools for myself and testing it. I found it was on the spot and really specific within the information that came through and on the points I was working on. I am still busy with the DIP/SRA, and I am still amazed with the points that come up and how effective it is working with self.

Everyone is looking for self-realization and self-empowerment, yet most seek to find outside of self. With the Desteni I Process I was finally able to stop following some master or apparently magic method and instead get practical and self-responsible. The Desteni I Process is a unique approach to the actuality of ones reality. The courses are structured in a way that one gets to discover and develop both the tools and the knowledge to direct oneself effectively in the inner and outer realms of this world. It is an interactive course and I enjoy being an active part of my own process. No school teaches us how to deal with thoughts, feelings and emotions and how to utilize the patterns that these reveal to see and understand how we have created ourselves to be who and what we are today. While I receive guidance and support, I also learn to guide and support myself, which helped me establish self-trust and self-confidence. And while I cannot control what every day will bring for me to face, I am confident that I have what it takes to face reality, face myself and direct myself and my world in self-honesty and practical common sense.

Bella Bargilly

Bella Bargilly is A DIP agent - http://desteni.org/profile/68

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The Desteni I Process gave me the tools to work with what is here at any given moment, and I am very grateful that with the DIP I finally began to walk the process of self-realization and self-empowerment from within me being the starting-point, the creator taking selfresponsibility. I stop searching, because I realize I am here.

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Desteni Forum
The Desteni forum is a platform of accumulated Process support where people are gathering together to assist and support themselves as well as others as themselves. The forum is open to all. we invite you to introduce yourself, write yourself to freedom, share Self Forgiveness, discuss the world events and get access to the various videos that are daily being upload by the Destonians

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The Demonology Website and Forum

The Demonology website explores the history of the existence of Demons as well as the current development of the Mind Demon, as we enter the era of Man as Demon, which is seen throughout the world as the human becomes possessed through the Mind in the form of thinking, personality, addiction, knowledge, emotions/feelings, fears, etc. In the Demonology-Forums we write-out our demons, our mind-demons; the real nitty-gritty details of the problems one face of the mind as the actual stark-reality of darkness that one fight with and deal with within oneself of the mind through thoughts, alternate realities / dimensions and reactions. This write-out is for one to be able to, through writing structure ones inner-demons before self through, within and as words, to so be able to better assist and support self to deal with them, stop them, stand up from them within self-direction and then to structure the changing of self.

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Equal Money Website

The Equal Money Website is where Desteni publishes faq, articles,videos,blogs and news on book publications in relation to the Equal Money System. The Equal Money System is Destenis response as a solution for our current dysfunctional world economic and monetary system. The EMS is based upon fundamental principles which are in alignment with basic Human Rights and Respect for all Life. To find out more about the Equal Money System, visit the website at http://equalmoney.org Equal Money Forum The Equal Money Forum is the platform of discussion and dialogue concerning the Equal Money Solution. Here you can introduce yourself, discuss the material, share how money has affected you, ask questions and publish any research you may have done on a particular topic. See what books and movies people recommend for educational purposes and share your own. Visit - http://equalmoney.org/forum/

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Equal Money - Future of Money - Volume 1
Equal Money is an approach that has been formulated in response to the humans proven inability to take care of life on earth in all its forms. Taking into consideration the state of the world as it currently exists where war, abuse, exploitation of resources and survival of the fittest is accepted as human nature. The redesigning of this nature has become the pivotal point that will decide the future of the human race. To educate yourself and understand the science and mathematics of Equal Money is vital as the simplicity of this new financial system will astound you. In this first volume you will be introduced to a different way of thinking that will challenge you. A few questions will be relevant to consider within your reaction: Are you free enough within your self-definition to consider an answer for the world that is in conflict with all the accepted paradigms of human history? Are you aware of the urgency that is necessary in finding a new way to deal with the earths problems? Would you agree with us as a starting point, that life has intrinsic value, that has not been affectively protected and given opportunity to explore itself within a system that gives so abundantly? This Volume is just a start and will not answer all your questions. There is forum a where you can ask your questions. There will be many more volumes as the dimensions of life on earth is varied and the variety must be considered in exploring what man can become, when whats best for all becomes a birth right. There are many videos that give guidelines as to how the Equal Money as a system is envisaged to function. We have made a commitment to ourselves as life to find and define a new system that functions practically in a way that is best for all from birth to death. We invite you to participate in this grand new journey.
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Freedom Blogs - The Birth of Practivism - Vol 1

Freedom Blogs Volume 1 is the first volume within the Blog-Book series. The Blog-Book series contains examples of practical living written by Destonians. It is a hand-in-hand walk through the process of Self-Change. While reading, you will have a glimpse of how someone walking the Desteni Process, assists and supports self through living Self-Forgiveness and Self-Honesty, to change self to walk in principles that are best for all living beings. You will find practical examples in facing self as the mind, through self-introspection and self-direction to stop and change self as the living breath. Topics Fearing the Living Dead - Me The Name of my Game I can Run but I cannot Hide Funerals and Corpses The Family Unit Labels, Medicine & Pharmaceutics vs Mankind? Morning or Mourning The Polar-I-Tree Defining Self Meditation - Medication Philosophy is Useless and many more on 172 pages...

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What the FAQ is an Equal Money System - Vol 1

Have you ever wondered how it would be practically possible to change this world? To make a difference? To live in a way where no one has to suffer or starve? This book was written by Destonians who have answered the most frequent question with regards to the Equal Money System. In this book questions like: How will the Equal Money System be Implemented? Will we all have chip implants? Who will do the shitty jobs? Will I own my own house? ...are answered with much specificity and clarity. Read all about the HOME of the Future with Equal Money System.
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