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I Have 35lb Eli-Jeep male that I would bet my bottom dollar would make Champion. Only thing is he's crazy as all hell. Trys to bite everyone
besides close family. Of course cannot be kept around any animals. slowly he is losing his marbles. Chasing shadows, jumping out of two story
windows, none Stop barking and wining, espesicially once I leave his site( And I mean non Stop , bout to drive me crazy) . This dog hardly ever
sleeps, always trotting back and forth. Acts like he is on crack 24-7. I might have to put this dog down, mainly because he keeps me up all
night. My female went into Heat and since then he barks and wines 10 times as much.

Any one have a similar story? What happened, what did you do?

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No disrespect man but you only KNOW if a dog can make CH by putting up. Many have made it, the vast majority fail along the way. Every
dog man thinks his dog will make CH , until he does or doesn't.

That dog would be plant food if he were mine.

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Try one of those Shock collars for the barking and put it on high. This may help with the barking. Why dont you just make this easy for yourself
and test the dog and get him done. Then you will know if he will make CH or not. But if it were me the poor soul would be pushing flowers. I
HATE DOGS LIKE that as they just drive me crazy. I hate dogs that are hard to Keep . I feel this way, cuz I live in the city no one should have
to suffer cuz of my dogs. Here are my rules for the dogs. 1) NO or Very little barking, people that live next door to me should not have to lose
sleep cuz of my animals, its not fair to them. 2 No shitting in your crate, I take them out plenty of times to shit and piss out side. 3 No people
bitting 4 be Game 5 work hard. Thats one of the main reasons why I hate puppies as you have to teach them this and its not fun. YIS Bojack
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Shock collar

and if you show dogs, then show it. I dont see a problem keeping a man eater if you dont have anyone in your backyard to get near him and
he's chained and your not going to breed him and let pups go to the public. Show him and if he turns out and doesnt bite you in the box, then
all worked out

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Sounds like this animal is frustrated due to lack of excercise and attention. He needs daily walks, runnings, etc.
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I work him on the carpetmill, fetch, pulling chains, flirtpole , walks. After an hour of rest he is back to being full of energy. Im gonna school em
but I need to find a Kennel mate with some small dogs. Most of my peoples dogs run 45-50lbs. I dont have any close neibors so that is not an
issue. Now that my females out of Heat he is better.

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I wouldn't Keep one that wacky but thats just my choice. Hope he dont bite you or worse, someone else.
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there is no need for a dog like that. if you have to come on the internet to seek advice on whether or not you should Cull him-the answer is a
resounding YES

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I have to disagree with those who say Cull. G@ddam, work the damn dog and work him HARD. It may take you a few weeks of constant work
before he tones down a bit. I have one dog like that. Yes, he too has Eli in him.....I have spoken to several people that Keep Eli strains and all
tell me they are hard to Keep . If he will run the mill, run the Pads off that dog for a few weeks. Eventually (4 weeks), 1 1/2 hours on the mill at
3/4 speed and 30-60 minutes on the springpole should Keep him calm enough.

IMHO, You should show the breeder enough respect to Keep his dog until he is old enough to be looked at. Obviously, this is continguent to
him not being a straight up manfighter. You have to look inward and ask yourself if you taught him/allowed him/promoted him to nip at people
when he was young. My Eli dog, in the hands of someone else, could have been a manbiter for sure. I had him since 7-weeks of age and was
corrected/taught otherwise. Good luck in your decision.
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I agree fully with Rocky. All of my nigerino's are really hyper. I am constantly going through things to entertain them. And if i don't give them
something to play with they drive their bowls all day. Budweiser did it all the time so i guess that is where they get it. But good luck with him.
Just work the hell out of him.

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I dont want to put him down, he just drives me crazy and makes me consider. once I calm down I realize I just need to work with him. I have
other dogs and its hard focuse mainly on one dog when they all need attention and to be worked. Thanks Rocky you seem very knowledgable

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I agree fully with Rocky. All of my nigerino's are really hyper. I am constantly going through things to entertain them. And if i don't give
them something to play with they drive their bowls all day. Budweiser did it all the time so i guess that is where they get it. But good
luck with him. Just work the hell out of him.

Your dogs are very closely related to the one I speak of. He is effing retarded hyper and rough. Where my others ask, he takes. Where the
others assimilate, he protests.....do your have a thing for water? Mine is an addict. How about the hip bones? He got some very large hip
bones....He could look like a fat hippo but those hip bones still scream hello. I have created a few workouts especially for him and those
hips......I hope that by spring time he will have a huge knot of muscles there....lol Let us hope and see.....sorry, i think i took over the thread.....

Tanktop, I thank you for your kind words. I am a student of knowledge just like the rest of us.
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If you Keep this animal, Keep him away from your others because they eventually will do as he is doing.crazy habits and all.especially the
younger ones.
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I have to disagree with those who say Cull. G@ddam, work the damn dog and work him HARD. It may take you a few weeks of
constant work before he tones down a bit. I have one dog like that. Yes, he too has Eli in him.....I have spoken to several people that
Keep Eli strains and all tell me they are hard to Keep . If he will run the mill, run the Pads off that dog for a few weeks. Eventually (4
weeks), 1 1/2 hours on the mill at 3/4 speed and 30-60 minutes on the springpole should Keep him calm enough.

IMHO, You should show the breeder enough respect to Keep his dog until he is old enough to be looked at. Obviously, this is
continguent to him not being a straight up manfighter. You have to look inward and ask yourself if you taught him/allowed
him/promoted him to nip at people when he was young. My Eli dog, in the hands of someone else, could have been a manbiter for
sure. I had him since 7-weeks of age and was corrected/taught otherwise. Good luck in your decision.

It could not be put any better!

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Your dogs are very closely related to the one I speak of. He is effing retarded hyper and rough. Where my others ask, he takes.
Where the others assimilate, he protests.....do your have a thing for water? Mine is an addict. How about the hip bones? He got
some very large hip bones....He could look like a fat hippo but those hip bones still scream hello. I have created a few workouts
especially for him and those hips......I hope that by spring time he will have a huge knot of muscles there....lol Let us hope and
see.....sorry, i think i took over the thread.....

Tanktop, I thank you for your kind words. I am a student of knowledge just like the rest of us.

Yes, I would have to say all my Nigerino's do like water. My one male from Bud x Black Beauty does have some hips, but with extra feed and
him running all the time they aren't as prominent.

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Tanktop, I thank you for your kind words. I am a student of knowledge just like the rest of us. [/quote]

LMAO tanktop LMAO, rock I know you didn't mean that but damn that's good

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Tanktop, I thank you for your kind words. I am a student of knowledge just like the rest of us
LMAO tanktop LMAO, rock I know you didn't mean that but damn that's good

How is that good?? My user name tank dog, not top. get it right

Sounds like a stupid as% wise crack

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Now I understand why you found it funny Swamp. The first time i read your post, i did not get it. I thought you found the "student of
knowledge...." as funny.

I publicly apologize to TANKDOG. Why would i want to disrespect someone who gave me props?
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