Maniac High's Guide to Pickup Attitudes and Desirability

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Index
Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!
Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!
The 3 seconds rule spontaneity
Experiment!
Mystery writes about NEG HIT Theory!
De-shying practice by Svengali!
Maniac high's guide new maniac plan

Openers - gentle/stealth - props/situation:
Calling femenazi bullshit.
Random tidbits of insight and highlights from the Diary:
--Lay report, HBDanceBabe
PUABehaviour
Maniac High`s No Non sense quick step to guide to friendship
Male aggression as a female aphrodesiac
Bait And Switch Technique
Pickup Attitudes and Desireability!
Well I got the confirmation email of her ditching me:
Sorry Robert, but I can't make it tonite. A friend of mine is taking
me to look for a car and I REALL need one. I ho!e you get this
message. I don't ha"e a !hone# $here I can call you, so I ho!e you
don't come all the $ay out here.
% you in class tomorro$,
%amilla
&itch. ou kno$, if she REALL $anted to be $ith me, like if
she had a crush on me, then she $ould ha"e gone out of her $ay
to study $ith me tonight. So $hat do I say to her in class
'
tomorro$( And should I email her back saying anything( Is she
!laying hard to get((
') *here $as a !oint in time, in the !ast, $hen she found you
attracti"e se+ually.
,) She no longer finds you attracti"e se+ually.
-) She either thinks that you are a !ussy, or that you are not
interested in her. *hose are the signs you ha"e been sending her.
.) She is /0* !laying hard to get. She uses you $here she can
and she blo$s you off other$ise. She deri"es feminine satisfaction
from mani!ulating you.
*his is one of the &ASI%S: 0nce you demonstrate to a $oman
that she can mani!ulate you, she loses all se+ual attraction for you
and designates you
as a !a$n.
Read the abo"e sentence '1 times.
0ne !iece of ad"ice that is gi"en here often 2$hen a guy is !ining
o"er a s!ecific $oman) is for you to go out and fuck '1 other
$omen first and then come back to her. If your skills are not yet
u! to the le"el $here you can do that, then *3A* is the true
!roblem that needs fi+ing. Asking our ad"ice is useless if you
don't follo$ it.
3ere are the basic attitudes you must instill in yourself, beha"e as
if they are true e"en if your emotions mislead you:
') I make no e+cuses for my desires as a man.
,) I mo"e through this $orld $ithout a!ology.
-) I like to fuck $omen.
.) I don't need any !articular $oman, I am not needy. Women are
a dime a do4en.
5) I 60 /0* S788LI%A*E *0 W09E/ &E%A7SE *3E
:I/6 I* 7/A**RA%*I;E.
<) Re=ection is a good thing, not a bad thing. *he more I get
re=ected, the more I $ill get laid. I learn something e"ery time. If
a $oman re=ects me it =ust sho$s ho$ stu!id she is. 9y gain, her
loss.
ou need to go out and a!!roach ', $omen a day, . days>nights a
$eek.
,
*hat's .? $omen a $eek. our skills $ill undergo massi"e
im!ro"ement $ith such !ractice. ou should al$ays be able to
blo$ off any $oman to go !ick u! another one.
It is only after you do these things that the original s$edish girl
$ill start to find you attracti"e again. And if she doesn't, oh $ell,
at least you are getting laid.
Look I res!ect the fact that you are !osting this shit and trying to
im!ro"e your situation. &ut if you don't listen to us and !ut in the
effort, you $ill not get the results. As 9ystery said, if you $on't
e"en !ut in the effort, then you are a !ussy and e"olution is
$eeding you out. If you 60 !ut in the effort, you WILL im!ro"e
and get great results. 6o not e"er fi+ate on any one $oman, it
turns her off. *o lay her, she must belie"e that you like to fuck
$omen, that you $ould like to fuck her, but that you don't /EE6
her because you ha"e all kinds of $omen all o"er you.
@ot it(
As far as your current situation, she is disres!ecting you. It IS a
form of test, although she is already assuming that you ha"e failed
the test. In order to !ass, you must:
') Sho$ that you don't lose your tem!er o"er it.
,) Sho$ that you don't $hine like a baby o"er it.
-) Sho$ that it doesn't really !hase you.
.) Sho$ that you 60 find it disres!ectful and that you don't
tolerate that.
2.) is the most im!ortant !oint, but you 97S* do it in such a $ay
that 2',,,-) are true.
Good attitudes for being a better pickup artist!
*hese are collected from the grou! or my e+!erience 2it's basically
ho$ to be the al!ha male and a fe$ other rules) :
'. 87ing follo$s the :9A% model 2:ind 9eet Attract %lose)
,. 3a"e the attitude that e"ery girl $ants to slee! $ith you, it's =ust
a matter of you $anting to slee! $ith her, ha"ing the s!are time to
do it and gi"ing her the o!ortunity. Al$ays !re!are yourself and
assume sucess.
-. 6es!eration is not something you e+!erience. It's something
other guys $ho aren't 87 artists e+!erience.
-
.. /o $oman is more im!ortant than your !ride and your
ha!!iness.
Another one is ho!ing to take her !lace in your life and is $aiting
right around the corner.
5. 87 is a $in>$in for both you and the $oman. &ut do unto
others...
<. 3umor is the most im!ort single techniAue to sucess.
B. %onfidence in a rela+ed $ay is the most im!ortant factor to
sucess.
?. /e"er get stressed out, discombobulated or $orried that things
aren't going right or !erfect. Al$ays remain calm, rela+ed and
reacti"e in !ossiti"e $ay to any challenges. Al$ays act in a slo$
calm !o$erful manner.
C. /e"er a!!ologi4e or try to think ahead to make life easier for
the $oman. /e"er dote. 6on't Dsu!!licateD. 9ake her $ork for it
2$hether DitD means the realationshi!, the con"ersation or the first
date) '1. Look, smell and sound your best. /e"er make it harder
than it has to be, and it makes you feel better about yourself.
On confidence
D*ry a!!roaching e"ery 3& you see and say, DHi. Are you the
sort of person I should get to know better?D If she says DesD,
then ask DWhy(D 8ut the focus of the con"ersation on $hat she has
to offer you. 6o this in a matter of fact $ay, like you $ere saying
D3i. our shoe's untied.D In fact, if you can't yet muster the
boldness to confront 3&'s, then =ust tell them it looks like they're
about to lose a heel on their shoe and WALE AWA. *ry it. It
$orks.D 6on't misunderstand the Daddressing a girl and then
$alking a$ay $orksD !art F it doesn't $ork for getting to kno$
these girls, it $orks to add to your e+!erience and feeling natural
and good about a!!roaching girls:)
I didn't use Dfeeling confidentD here on !ur!ose, because ideally,
you don't $ant to feel DconfidentD F being confident is something
you think about and $hich ultimately re"eals that you must be
ner"ous in one $ay or another after all. Ideally you feel so good
and natural about it that the $ord DconfidenceD ne"er !o!s u! in
your mind:) :eeling so good and natural that you ha"e no need to
.
think about being confident is actually the ultimate confidence F
but ne"er think of it in terms of confidence. :orget the term
DconfidenceD altogether, =ust concentrate on feeling good and
natural 2about a!!roaching, !ro!elling her to ne$ heights of
!leasure $ith your !atterns, ha"ing kino etc) and before you kno$
it F DconfidentD is ho$ you'll be !ercei"ed by $omen:)
When seeing a girl you'd like to a!!roach, don't e"en try to Dfeel
confidentD. Instead, think: DSee that girl( I am the !erfect
e+!erience for herGD. *hink of the $ay she $ill ha"e goosbum!s
from the $ay you'll make her feel good, and if you $ant to, then
for =ust a s!litFsecond you can remind yourself of all the $ays you
could make her cum:) 6on't d$ell on that though:) Hust go and
offer her the e+!erience of a lifeFtime
The 3 seconds rule spontaneity
*he D- seconds ruleD $as coined by 9ystery 2more info at
9ystery9ethod.com), a 87A and regular !oster on AS:. *he
!oint of the -s rule is to !ro!el you to a!!roach $omen fast
enough to kee! your internal "oice from talking you out of it and
a"oid hesitation. ou do not $ant a $oman to see you hesitate.
*he longer you hesitate, the more insecure and sa!!y you a!!ear.
Also, hesitation creates an added sense of ner"ousness to your
mental state F a !ersonality trait you do not $ant to !ortray $hen
a!!roaching $omen.
E"en if you can't think of any $ay to initiate a con"ersation $ith a
$oman, $hate"er you do, don't break the -s ruleG Act in - seconds
as the default rule, e"en if you ha"e no idea ho$ you $ill continue.
If you don't ha"e an o!ener or o!ening line in mind by the time
you're in front of her, at least =ust say D3iD. If you act in - seconds,
she $ill notice it, no matter $here she =ust came in from or $here
you came from or ho$ you !assed by each other. She $ill see the
s!ontaneity and decisi"eness in your a!!roach and it can only
$ork in your fa"or. If you $ait, hesitate, then decide to a!!roach,
you are in a $eaker situation. 3esitating $ill gi"e your selfFdoubt a
chance to create imaginary bad outcomes and add unneeded
insecurity to your a!!roach.
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With the -s rule, you don't need to $ait for eye contact or for her
to notice you or for an o!!ortunity to !resent itself. ou sim!ly see
something you like and you go right u! to it. ou are also doing
yourself a fa"or by follo$ing the -s rule. In three seconds, you
ha"e no time to become ner"ous, selfFconscious, s$eaty, shaky F
all the ob"ious signs of an A:%: lacking confidence, Auality,
!o$er, or asserti"eness, a $eakling around $omen, a !ariah to
beautiful girls. E"en if you start s$eating, or getting shaky or
stutter $hile talking to the $oman after follo$ing the -s rule, you
$eren't that $ay $hen you initiated contact. *he first im!ression is
$hat counts. If that first im!ression of you is of a confident and
s!ontaneous man, her feelings for you $ill be !ositi"e from the
start, $hich greatly the minimi4es the chance of you turning into a
!ile of =elly $hile talking $ith her. It sets the !ace and hel!s kee!
your inner "oice at bay, allo$ing you the chance to kee! u! your
confidence.
*he -s rule, though, is not absolute F you may sim!ly not notice
her $hen she enters your en"ironment, or maybe you'll be tied u!
$ith something that might in some $ay sto! you from a!!roaching
her 2real obstacles, not your imagined ones). *he - seconds start
counting from the moment you ha"e s!otted her and are free to
a!!roach. When those t$o conditions are met, you really don't
ha"e the time to think dee! thoughts, or try and figure out $hether
or not she noticed that you didn't a!!roach her because you $ere
either too !reoccu!ied, restrained, or sim!ly obli"ious F the clock
is al$ays ticking, so mo"e itG
vampire2727, ASF: D*he $orst !art of not using the -s rule is
$hen the girl sees you hesitating.D
Mike, ASF: DWhen a!!roaching these chicks, I used 9ystery's -
second rule a!!roach 2$hich I rely on hea"ily) and tried to !ick out
something about them to comment on. It could be a book,
something they are $earing, Auestions about something that they
9A 2not necessarily 60) ha"e kno$ledge on, something $e
ha"e in common, $hate"er.D
:ormhandle's thoughts on the - seconds rule:
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*here is a reason it's a R7LE and not =ust a recommendation. In
=ust about any situation, you are better off a!!roaching Auickly and
$ithout hesitation after seeing the chick rather than $aiting around
to think about the D!erfectD o!ener or hesitating because of selfF
doubt. 9ost A:%s =ust stand>sit around, ga4ing at the 3& they
want to a!!orach rather than =ust going u! and doing the a!!roach.
While they stand>sit there, the "oice in their head goes through
e"ery !ossible re=ection scenario and scares the hell out of them.
*hey cause themsel"es to get ner"ous and scared and if they
finally do get the ner"e to do the a!!roach, they are $alking u! to
her as a Aui"ering !ile of =elly. Waiting also creates time for a
cockblock to a!!ear. *he longer you $ait, the more time gets
created for cockblock scenarios to !resent themsel"es.
*he rule is not chiseled in stone, though, and some circumstances
aren't Auite -s material. ou can't =ust $alk u! to a chick and chat
her u! $hile she's de!ositing a check at a bank teller $indo$, for
e+am!le. Also, sometimes you are in a room full of 3&s and you
need time to scan for ones that you actually $ant to a!!roach. ou
ob"iously can't a!!roach , chicks in - seconds $ho are on
different ends of a room. &ut you also shouldn't stand around for
too long if you'"e seen a chick that you 60 $ant to a!!roach. Hust
go and do it. If you can't think of anything, say D3i.D 7sually, it's
also better to ha"e a default o!ener ready for all situations if you
$ant to gi"e yourself more confidence and less reason to hesitate.
If you're $ith a $ingman, you may also $ant to do a 9r. Smooth
ty!e a!!roach. If your target is in a grou!, you may also $ant to
brush u! on grou! a!!roach techniAues.
Experiment!
ou could gobble u! all the kno$ledge in the kno$n uni"erse
about seduction but you'll neither ne"er kno$ $hat $orks best for
you nor build u! an intuition >e+!erience concerning $hat $ould
$ork best $ith any gi"en girl F unless you start e+!erimenting,
both $ith $hat you'"e learned and $hat you come u! $ith
yourself. 8lus this also hel!s to !ut you in the right mindFset.
AS:: D*he main thing I !ut my successes recently do$n to is the
decision I made to ha"e fun and make meeting $omen a game.
B
Let's !ush their buttons this $ay and see ho$ they res!ond. What
$ill they do if I say this etc. When I meet someone I'm thinking
DWhat can I learn from you( What fun can I ha"e relating to you(D
rather than DWo$, you're gorgeous. 0h shitG What do I say( 6o I
look 0E( Will you like me( D, $hich are some of the thoughts that
used to run through my mind in my A:% days.D
ou say the $ords D!layerD like it is a &A6 thing IF)
It de!ends ho$ you D!layD. If you !lay a cou!le girls $hile you
are getting /0*3I/@ from them..
then it is 0E. 0nce you get S09E*3I/@ or S09EW3ERE
$ith one, then the ethical Auestions come into !lay.
&efore then, it is all about S7R;I;AL. Hust ask yourself, do you
only a!!ly to 0/E =ob if you are unsure if you $ill @E* the =ob.
6o you only ask for 0/E o!inion, $hen you are not sure of the
"alidity or truth of that first o!inion(
0f course notG Why be any different $ith $omen or the friends
you choose.
@irls !lay this game all the time, and ha"e $hi!!ed guys into
submission o"er the years.
It's really that sim!le.
*he sad thing is a L0* of girls don't e"en reali4e this
themsel"es..and so if you think they are not !laying this game $ith
you on 87R80SE.. then you could "ery $ell be right. It's all
conditioning for *3EIR sur"i"al.
*his has become their I/S*I/%* in hel!ing them find their best
!ossible match.
Start $orrying about your o$n. @et in touch $ith your natural
instincts. ou're not being an animal.. you're =ust ta!!ing into your
animal instints, and using it to guide your choices.
ou $ill be ha!!ier in the end, and $ill be sure that 07 ha"e
made the right decision.
Hust do it $ith class, style.. and most of all ha"e fun and learnG
0/E 90RE *3I/@: 0nce you think you'"e $on her o"er. 6on't
start gushing o"er her, getting caught u! 2too much) in the
moment. She may try to *ES* you and see
?
if you can take it. She may try to make 07 =ealous, by !ulling
the same game on her.
Pretend you don't care. No matter how much it eats away at
you.. pretend you don't care.
ou ha"e to kee! yourself in sha!e to stay on to!. *he longer you
are together, and the more you kno$ her, the more you can start
letting your guard do$n.
6o it at your !ace.
&ut find a balance. ou're ne$ to this and may find your self o"er
com!ensating.. this could also lead to !otentially s!oiling the
moment $ith !aranoia.. be sure to !ost here often and listen to
$hat different !eo!le ha"e to say.
@ood luck manGG
I used this a cou!le of times. I* $orks. ou may add "alues inside
those D!atternsD, that you ha"e elicited.
:luff talk F -F'1 minutes.. 6uring fluff use humour > tease
seAuences 2$hen she laughs establish anchors on her arm, hi!s and
tummy and neck), use /E@S if needed 2de!ends on rating). 9ake
sure ra!!ort has been established and the girl has gi"en u signs of
interest. &*W EI/0 on the arm>hand as soon as you say hi 2to
sho$ her u r a se+ual being).
%onnection2re"erse ty!e):
ou kno$.. sometimes .. $hen i meet someone i get this feeling
inside 28*S) .. i dont kno$ $hat it is.. but i kno$ it feels good
28*S).. and I cant hel! but $ant to get close to that !erson and get
to kno$ her..2!oint to her).. do you e"er get that feeling $hen you
meet a guy 28*S)(
Let her say shit.. if its !ositi"e mo"e on if negati"e do some more
ra!!ort building....
8assion: 2continuation)
8assion and desire 2touch her neck) ... the feeling that you cant
hold back... you $ant to touch the !erson 28*S or if u feel bra"e
take her hand and make it touch your chest).. the desire builds and
builds 2touch her arm).. your mind goes numb because the feeling
is so !leasurable.. 2touch her arm) ... your legs get shaky 2touch her
hi!s) and your tummy feels $eird 2touch her stomach)
C
/ote: she should be fucking dri!!ing... and if she aint u shouldnt
ha"e launched these $ithout establishing anchors and ra!!ort
2smile and look in her eyes 60/* say a fucking thing for -
seconds)
8assion and desire.. 2touch neck and !ull her a little closer)
2EI/0 *I9E 2kiss))
En=oy the fucking.. use the lines i su!!lied before to confirm and
change "enue for a fuck.
&*W its more effecti"e if u r both sitting do$n...
When I think about my style, i realise its mental masturbation,
thatJs rightG, i am mentally masturbating them $hich often follo$s
into !hysical. *hey cant hel! but ha"e their attention on me, the
good feelings of laughter and the ego tra! of the tease gets them
hooked 2although there comes a time $hen e"en a tease is highly
!leasurable e"en if not straight a$ay).
Lo"e the basic human !sychology, you make the girl feel good,
she $ill naturally reci!rocate, e+ce!t her instincts tell her to !lease
the man se+ually.
I lo"e the little gem by mystery $here he said to neg a girl before
kissing her, no$ ho$ de"ious is that(
ou make her feel self conscious and then you relie"e the "ery
feelings you caused.
hahah
6aniel's cookbook of s!eed seduction.....
') /E@ hits to disarm initial bitch shield 2if needed)
,) Small *alk
-) *ease.. 3umour SeAuences ...S!rinkle se"eral se+ual innuendos
2E+treme 9oderation is the key $ord here)
.) Wait for any sign of her se+uality building... 2!rolonged eye
contact, o!en body language to$ards you etc etc, Shouldnt take
longer
than '1 mins to!s)
5) *hen go for a string of humour seAuences 2no teasing at this
stage, use more freAuent se+ual innuendos though &EI/@
S7&*LE IS ;ER I980R*A/*
S0 AS /0* *0 9AEE 3ER :EEL SEL: %0/S%I07S).....
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<) /E@ 3I*... 2destabilise her, make sure its still in the right
format, in that its co"ered in humour)
B) @et onto her right thereG :uck her in any con"enient !ri"ate or
!ublic 2hehe) !lace.
6one.
Whole !rocess shouldnt take longer than ,1 mins.
Also, if she starts calling you names early it means on a gut le"el
she is finding your !o$erful method o"er$helming.. Lea"e the girl
alone.
*his $ill $ork on a ma=ority so dont $orry.
/&: *he last neg hit !art $ill be unnecessary in most situations
any$ay.
Some 3&s $ill reAuire it though.
Sub=ect: Re: I =ust got tested... $hat to do(
0n :ri, '' :eb ,111 '<:-1:.C @9*, :eisal Eebla$i $rote:
*hats more or less $hat I $as saying. &ut $hen $omen test us
like this, are they %0/S%I07SL testing us, or is it all in the
subconscious( Are they doing it on !ur!ose, =ust to see if they can
=erk us around, or did they really DhonestlyD forget for $hate"er
reason(
I don't think they test as in Dlet's see in this guy is a $him!D. I
think it goes more or less like this: D6amn, I'm not sure I $ant to
see that guy ... $ell he's cool &7* ... nah I don't $ant to see him
this time maybe I'll see him later and I'll kno$ ho$ I'll
feelD
:rom $hat I'"e 'F read in female maga4ines ,F read in !sychology
te+tbooks -F heard from female friends $hen this kind of situation
arises, it's e+actly $here
they are !ositi"ely im!ressed by a strong $ill.
In the $ords of ;icky 2formerly featured in the Dhome made !ornD
section of the lounge), $hen she's not sure she goes for the guy
$ho a!!ears to desire her the most.
6oes that seem to contradict $hat $e ha"e established WR*
$omen not desiring /EE6 ty!es(
''
Indeed, it might a!!ear as contradictory ... but as Alain Soral !uts
it .. it's about sho$ing that you WA/* her, as o!!osed to
/EE6ing her.
6ESIRE GK /EE6
3mm ... that's interesting, as I ty!e that, I'm starting to understand
e+actly ho$ I fucked a fe$ times lately.
Well, bottom line is, it's been sho$n that $omen fall for men $ho
sho$ !ersistance. &e !ersistant. Luite the o!!osite of $hat Ray
teaches ... 0ne and done my ass.
8ersist. And !ersist in sho$ing strong $ill. 6o not abdicate.
Acce!ting her &S is being $eak. &ackingoff is being $eak.
8ersisting is being strong.
*hen there is that line $here stalking begins ... ob"iously,
DstalkingD falls in the DneedyD category.
/% on reali4ing your 0W/ "alueG
In article MC,k-1lNAb=N'Onnr!'.de=a.com,
maniacPhighOyahoo.com $rites:
basically, rule is that $hen a chick re=ects something 2and it is not
first date>first time.. ) and ES8E%IALL if she did it $ith you
already before.. then RAISE the S*AEES.. that if she doesnt
S3A8E 78 no$, then this $ill be the last time you see her, and
you $ill get another girl, because you need her less than she needs
you
this is the ne+t le"el u! from reali4ing that 07 ha"e something
to offer the chicks and not the other $ay around. first le"el, you
are buying from them because they look good or $hate"er. second
le"el, they are buying from you, because 07 E/0W you ha"e
something good and you are =ust selling it to them.
on this le"el, you are %098LE*EL I/*0LERA/* of dummies
that can't understand
your sales !itch. it is your =ob to demonstrate $hat you are
offering them and their =ob to buy it. if they don't, and you are
S7RE that you !itched it correctly so A/ chick could understand
the &E/E:I*S of being $ith you, you kno$ the fault lies $ith
them and they :AIL your screen for intelligence and get LH&:'d or
/EQ*ed.
',
0nce I came to understand my 9L*R 2$hich is REALL a L*R
on 9 *ER9S 0/L) I
$as able to se!erate certain elements that I thought $ere integral to
a chick
that really are not. for instance... since I ha"e a chick to go to
mo"ies $ith
W3E/E;ER I $ant to, that is /0* something that could get a
/EW chick any credit
$ith me. if our com!atability is going to mo"ies, she is LH&: and
in the e"ent
that I can't go $ith 9L*R and still $ant to go $ith a chick, *3E/
I $ill call
LH&: u!. this assumes, of course that I am WILLI/@ to go to the
mo"ies $ith
this chick A* ALL since she failed the screen for se+uality...
$hich !robably I
$ould not. in your case, you ha"e met enough girls that act the
$ay you WA/*
them to act that you ha"e become I/*0LERA/* of bullshitters
and girls that are
not interested in you. you can still fuck them, but the W0RE that
you ha"e to
do to get them is not $orth it in the long run. look at your re!orts.
you
sarge chicks relati"ely Auickly. I9A@I/E meeting a girl that says
she $ill
fuck a guy after talking to him on the !hone for a monthG are you
going to do
it( no. $hy( because !ussy is !ussy and you are not going to
$aste a month to
get something you can get in 0/E 6A from a bitch you meet in
a bar 0R
something you can get $ithin 0/E 307R from one of your
RE@7LAR chicks that are
already $ith the !rogram :)
'-
her re=ecting you is REALL re=ecting herself, because there are
9A/ girls
that ha"e benefitted se+ually A/6 as far as com!anionshi! and
fun $ith 07.
you !icked her because of her looks or se+uality and %30SE her
to recei"e these
benefits as $ell. you came to her $ith the D!ublisher's clearing
houseD check,
sho$ed her ho$ much she had $on... and she slammed the door in
your faceG you
kno$ $hat( you S*ILL ha"e the 9ILLI0/F60LLAR %3E%E in
your handsG :) gi"e it
to some 0*3ER fine bitchG
Mystery writes about NEG HIT Theory!
9ystery $rote:
3ERE IS 30W:
A '1 is there surrounded by friends. She has !ut on this &I*%3
act. Is she REALL a bitch( 7nlikely. All my girlfriends $ere
$onderful human beings F beautiful !eo!le ha"e it easier because
they are beautiful and often times ha"e better u!bringings because
of it. &7* R they need to ha"e a standard $ith $hich to u!hold
$hen all these /0&06 guys a!!roach her. So her "alues are
"ery honed and understood.
When a man $alks u! and says, Dcan I buy you a beer(D she WILL
be annoyed
by this. While the guy thinks he's doing something nice for her, she
gets this ALL the time. She is desensiti4ed to this. ou are the ?th
guy *06AG So she is "ery good at brushing all these guys off.
Shit, she 3AS to be... she isn't going to slee! $ith ALL of themG
So she may say /0 or act annoyed and then the guy thinks she's a
bitch and $alks off !issed and feeling like a failure. And that
seems to $ork.
Sometimes $hen the girl is !articularly in a feeling of control 2like
in a club $here she is 8RE8ARE6 for the barrage of men F it IS
after all something that occurs so often that $hen it is @0/E she
9ISSES it) she $ill acce!t the beer and then flake the guy off.
'.
3ey, the guys are stu!id enough to buy her one, she might as $ell
take it. When they take a beer from you, the girl is saying to you,
DI don't kno$ you and I
don't care about you. ou are =ust another one of those ty!ical guys
and since I dont res!ect you, Ill take the beer from you before I
snub you.D
I $as $ith my friend 6iane 2the '1) and her cute friend 2an ?.5
maybe I guess). A guy came u! and asked, DI don't mean to bother
you but $ould you like to dance $ith me(D *he ?.5, not being used
to this said, Dummm, ahhh ...D and the guy ga"e a !u!!y dog look
and I $as smiling at her kno$ing ho$ !athetic the guy $as so I
sa$ the humor in the situation and the girl said, Dummm, $hy not.
sure.D *he guy said, DREALL( are you S7RE( Wo$, I /E;ER
get girls to dance $ith me.D What a
!athetic loser. She started talking $ith 6iane and the guy =ust
standing there and they ne"er $ent for the dance. $eird eh( 3e
then said ... to 9E... D%an I buy her a beer(D I said, Dyou can buy
9E a beer ... but you'll ha"e to ask 3ER.D At this !oint I kne$ he
$as being a hassle to her, she $asn't interested in the slightest and
felt
uncomfortable. I thought is $as great to see this occur in front of
me F it $as highly educational and more so entertaining. So I say,
D3ey, the guy $ants to buy you a beer :)D I'm getting into this no$
hahahaa. It $as great. *he girl goes, Dummm, no thank you.D /o$
6iane 2the '1) says, Dyes, she'll take the beer.D So he buys her a
beer. And then he ne"er talks to her againG Weird eh( Well that's
ho$ it $ent do$n.
I digressed. oh $ell, steady stream of te+t from my brain ... Ill
trudge on 2sorry reader) ... since a '1 is so @006 at snuffing your
a!!roach 2nothing e"er !ersonal either F it is a strategy that is built
o"er years of stu!id guys a!!roaches E;ER :7%EI/@ 6A,
she $ill do the same to 07. *hat is $hy S/7::I/@ *3E9 is
im!ortant. ou cant I/S7L* them because they are used to all the
hurt guys I/S7L*I/@ them 2ahh you are nothing but a bitchG) so
this rolls off their back like
'5
$ater off a muskrats ass. 3o$ do you S/7:: them $ithout
I/S7L*I/@ them( Well, let's say she has long nails $hich are
most likely fake. /o$ $hy do '1s dress so :I/E if they don't $ant
the attention( &ecause they L0;E the feeling of control
sometimes. *hey are in a club $ith friends and they $ant to be the
leader of the circle 2social hierarchy in !rimates) and so she gets
all the attention. *he guys come and buy drinks for them and she
gets off on knocking the guys do$n. Its all in a days !lay. 0k, so
she is $earing fake nails to look e"en &E**ERG 9ost guys $ill
say, D$o$ you are so beautiful.D
&0RI/@, ty!ical and in her mind by no$ 2after years of the same
shit) *R7E. Imagine a guy comes along and says, Dnice nails( are
they real(D she $ill ha"e to concede, Dno. acrylic.D and you say
2like you didn't notice it $as a !ut do$n), Doh. 2!ause) $ell I guess
they still L00E good.D *hen he turns his back to her.
What does this do to her( Well, he didn't treat her like shit and
I/S7L* her. 3e com!limented her but the result $as to target her
insecurity.
She thinks, DI9 30* I9 &EA7*I:7L 2es!ecially in that
emotional state of control as in the !ublic)... but I didn't $in this
guy o"er. I9 S0 @006 at this. ILL =ust fi+ that little smear on my
image that he has of me.D then you continue to sho$ disinterest in
her looks as you gi"e her a neutral to!ic like the El"is scri!t.
6uring this her intention is to get you to become like all the other
guys so she can feel in control
and snuff you and you then gi"e her another /E@ 3I* like this ...
Dis that a hair !iece( $ell, its neat ... $hat do you call this
hairstyle( *he $affle( :)D Smile and look at her to sho$ her you
are sincerely being funny and not insulting. ou are !leasant but
disinterested in her beauty. *his $ill intrigue her because she
E/0WS guys. And this isn't normal. ou must ha"e really high
taste, or be used to girls or be married or something. *hese
Auestions make her %7RI07S. So this kee!s ha!!ening and is
kno$n as :LIR*I/@. She gi"e you little neg hits and these tests
are Aualifiers. ou !ass them by neg hitting her back. After all,
you aren't like the others sho$ing interest. &ut ... $hy(
'<
*o get control again she says, D$ill you buy me a drink(D notice
ho$ she is trying to get you no$G &7*, she only $ants to sucker
you in enough so she can S/7:: you. *hat is all she is about F this
strategy is all she kno$s and it's not $orking for you so she is
trying to do damage control on the situation. &ut at the same time
she doesn't Auite understand W3 you don't think you are great.
After all, her nails ARE fake. ou say, Dahhh, thats so funny ...
you nose mo"es $hen you s!eak... 2!ointing and being cute) look
there it goes again ... its so ... Auaint ... hheeeee lookyD :6 She'll
say, Dahhh, sto!!!G :) SblushS.
/o$ she is self conscious and ha"ing her in this state is $here you
$ant her. ou ha"e $ith - neg hits successfully created
I/*ERES* 2curiosity) and remo"ed her from her !edestal
2remo"ed her bitch shield.) ou $ere humorous, you had a smile,
you dress $ell, you are confident and e"erything she $ould $ant
in a man.
ou didn't take her shit. 03, and $hen she asked you for a beer,
you said, Dno. I don't buy girls drinks. but you can buy 9E one.D
ou are Aualifying 3ER no$. If she buys you a beer, this is
symbolic of her RES8E%* for you.
If not you say, D!leasure meeting youD and turn your back to her
again.
60/* $alk a$ay, =ust turn your back. ou are neg hitting them
again =ust $hen they thought she $as negging 07. *hat is
teasing each other. *hat is the first ste! to flirting. *his is all
te+tbook !sychology. Sim!le stuff and it $orks enough for me to
ha"e had 5? girls in < years.
A /E@ 3I* is a Aualifier. *he girl is :AILI/@ to meet your high
e+!ectations. It's not an insult, =ust a =udgement call on your !art.
*he better looking the girl, the more aggressi"e you must be $ith
using neg hits. A '1 can get - neg hits u! front, $hile an ? only '
or , o"er a longer time. ou %A/ go o"erboard if they think you
are &E**ER than them ou can dro! the selfFesteem right from
under them 2=ust like most '1s do to guys) and this isn't good. ou
ha"e to get as close to the breaking !oint as you can $ithout
crossing the line. 0nce you ha"e gotten her RI@3* *3ERE, you
'B
can start a!!reciating things about her 2/E;ER L00ES). *here is
a mutual RES8E%* no$. Something most guys ne"er get from the
girl.
*his is ho$ you remo"e a bitch shield. - neg hits oughta do it
$ithin , or - minutes of neutral chat. 0nce it is do$n, you can
from a mutual res!ect !lace, seduce her.
&RILLIA/* /E@G
I $ould honestly say that this is the best /E@ to dateG
When you see a 3& and she snuffs you ... tell her you think think
her dress is "ery nice 2something she has heard before) and then
tell her you remember seeing her at a club before and she $as
$earing the same dress. It IS nice though. :)
Whether or not you e"er sa$ her before, you can ASS79E she
3AS been social before and that she $as $earing the dress before.
*his deflates her I/S*A/*L and !uts you in control.
I $ill use this this $eek on the 3&s that are $orthy of it :)
@ood one.
@uy: What do you do(
@al: 0h, I'm a model.
@uy: 0h, like a hand model or something(
oh god, &RILLIA/*. I lo"e gi"ing an idea and !eo!le :I/ALL
8ER:E%* it.
*his one is fucking incredible. lo"e it. $ill use it.
I meet so many 'models'.
Remember to say it straight faced like you ha"e no clue you are
offending.
De-shying practice by Svengali!
3ere's my challenge to e"eryone $ho is 2a) afraid of meeting
$omen, and>or 2b) not getting any $omen, or 2c) not getting
enough $omen.
*his sim!le little challenge $ill 2a) eliminate your fear of $omen,
2b) sho$ you that you don't ha"e to !lay any tricks to get and ha"e
them.
Ready(
'?
*omorro$, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real
nice.
I'm SnotS asking anyone to seducet on any suits, or ties, or =ackets
2unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your o$n
comfortable, natural $ay, $earing clean and at least reasonably
!ressed clothes. *hen dri"e to the nearest sho!!ing mall>center
and $alk around looking and damn near e"erything. As you're
doing so, say DhiD and gi"e a smile to e"ery $oman $ho !asses
you by, and $ho is ne+t to you, and $ho is in front of you, or
$hate"er. *he smile doesn't ha"e to be this big cheesy grin, but
$hate"er is your normal, comfortable $ay of smiling. TAny kind
of smile sho$s you're not de!ressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.U
6oing SnothingS else but gi"ing a sim!le smile and DhiD to
e"eryone, you come back here on 9onday and tell me that not
SoneS $oman sto!!ed dead in her tracks to say some things to you
after you did nothing more then smile and say DhiD.
A sim!le smile and DhelloD to e"eryone. %ost nothing, takes no
time, $on't hurt anyone. et I'll bet most of you $ill Srationali4eS
out some reason2s) $hy you can't do this, and>or it's not good,
and>or all kinds of other things, and then come back here looking
for that magical !ill ad"ice, that $ill bring you all the $omen you
$ant.
@uess $hat(
I =ust ga"e you the Dmagical !illD ad"ice. If you can't or $on't say
DhiD to e"eryone $ith a smile 2so they Auickly see they ha"e
nothing to be afraid of), /0*3I/@ Ross Heffries gi"es you,
9aniac gi"es you, /% gi"es you, 9ystery gi"es you, I gi"e you,
or $hoe"er, $ill $ork.
/o$ get out there and !ro"e me $rong. I dare youG
If you don't kno$ in the first t$enty minutes $hether or not you're
going to have sex with the woman you just met, and whether or not
you even want to, you're not a seductionist.
Qualify
If you want a normal girl, be HONEST! Tell them you already did all
the things you've done. ou sowed your wild oats and got it all out of
your system. ou dis!overed it wasn't fulfilling for you. ou !ould
'C
have any of them you want. "ut, you're not interested in those #inds of
girls anymore $O%TION&'( and in fa!t are totally turned)off at the very
thought of them*.
Then start a +ualifying list saying you're loo#ing for a real woman who
,,,,,, ,,,,,, ,,,,,. -here the blan#s are the things a woman you've now
att ra!ted will try to +ualify for and .rove that she has or !an live
u..
IE. This is off the to. of my head. "ut, the !onversation may go
something li#e...
I really love wa#ing u. the dee.er woman inside. The woman inside you
that -&NTS to wa#e u. and feel all of the ama/ing things a woman is
!a.able of feeling...$et!, et!*
So, I'm really only interested in the #ind of woman who would ins.ire
me to wa#e her u. in that way.
& woman who has a strong enough sense of self... and #nows what she
has going for her... su!h that you and I "OTH #now that you don't need
to worry about any of those Sauna girls be!ause you're already
satisfying me in all the right ways .urely by being the #ind of woman
you've now awa#ened into.0
This isn't a memori/e and go use version yet. 1u/ I 2ust ty.ed the
general !on!e.t. "ut, maybe trying something li#e that would do the
tri!# for ya.
Maniac high's guide new maniac plan
*his is my latest !icku! !lan. It is "ery long, but an A:% can learn
it,and follo$ it and likely get laid $ith it. As it is notes to myself
2mainly) some of it can be !retty cry!tic. It is not $ord for $ord of
$hat to say, but the to!ics as reminders to me. Eey is tonality and
deli"ery 2smooth, slo$ talking, dee! "oice $ith confidence) as you
run this !lan.
It is still a $ork in !rogress, and could use some better formatting.
I $ill do it someday. %ontent is $hat counts though.
I designed this !lan based on field $ork, and this !lan is tested in
the field, and W0RES.
/otes: FA SE67%E running this !lan takes - 2better -.5) hours
from o!ening to lay. So to not run out of time, !lan enough time 2-
> -.5) V train time to return chick V -1 minutes 2comfort factor).
She may not actually go back that night, but $ill need to kno$ that
she can do so, before she agrees to go to your !lace.
FIf the chick has a &:, you must @0 :0R *3E 0/S *0/I@3*. It
is far more likely she $ill flake out 2ie. forget about you) if you do
not get her *0/I@3* because once she does her &: again, she
$ill get 7/EAS, or :0R@E* about youG If the chick has no &:,
then you can risk $aiting till the ,nd
,1
time to lay her if timing or conditions are not right. &ut if a &:,
you must @0 :0R I* *0/I@3* as it is almost certain that she
$ill /0* see you again 2e"en if she is sure she $ill at that first
night), once she sees her &:'s face again the ne+t time. 2e+ce!tion,
married $omen, treat them as if they are single.. they are !robably
sick of seeing their husbands facesG).
Also, if kino is good, you should go for the lay tonight, $omen
monthly cycles radically affect their horniness. 9ost $omen $ill
be "ery horny for a fe$ days $hen they are fertile, and the rest of
the time, don't care about se+ as much. So if you meet an 3&, she
is ready to go and make a date for ne+t $eek, chances are
3I@3ER she $ill be I%E %0L6 $hen you see her the ne+t time,
=ust because her horny state has been lost. So 6on't $ait. 0n the
other hand, if you meet a chick, and she is reacting $ell to you, but
not kino, then maybe this is not her horny day, $ait a $eek or t$o,
and try again before gi"ing u!.
F*his !lan focusses mainly on 'feeling' !hrases 2$hich are
effecti"e on $omen) "ersus fact !hrases 2$hich are not as effecti"e
on $omen, since $omen are not logical). It also has the ad"antage
that it makes the !lan more fle+ible, because feeling things can be
said in a much less strict order 2and e"en re!eated often), $hich is
not true of fact !hrases 2you can only say $hat you did this
morning one time to her). Each time you re!eat a feeling
!hrase in con"ersation, the chick $ill internali4e it more.. $hich is
$hat you $ant.
3o$ to use this !lan: F*he idea is to start using the !hrases in a
section belo$, and then $hen !ossible 2ie. after you ha"e run a
bunch of the !hrases in ' section), start slo$ly introducing !hrases
from the ne+t section 2each section is a mental state transition, of
the chick) belo$, 2$hile still using some from the !re"ious
section), and then e+!anding into the follo$ing section after that,
$hile still using !hrases from the !re"ious section. *his may feel
2to a guy) to be random illogical rambling 2$hich it isG), but
remember, $omen don't think logically, so they $ill not notice this
2e"er $onder ho$ $omen ramble senselessly for hours on end
$ith their friends about totally nothingG().
,'
So as $ierd as it may sound to you, the chick WILL be fooled by
this, and it $ill sound totally like regular natural con"ersation to
her. *his takes care of the !roblem of 'natural sounding'
con"ersation $hile doing transitions> state setu!s. *he lines in each
section are in order of 'usefulness>ease of a!!licability in general
situations', so lines at the start of each section are better. ou can
talk for ,..- hours using this !lan, and it should take around ,..- or
. hours of talk to get the chick to the last section>state of this !lan
so that you can lay her. ou do not need to com!lete a section
before mo"ing to the ne+t one, =ust use as many lines>to!ics from a
section till she is comfortable that you can raise lines from the ne+t
follo$ing section.
*his means that it should al$ays be !ossible to introduce !hrases
from any section abo"e the section you are currently in, $hile
slo$ly ad"ancing through each section to the ne+t 2more dee!er
one) belo$. As a rule, you should try to be saying !hrases only
from at most - ad=acent sections 2ie. $hen you mo"e into a ne$
section of !hrases, you 2for the most !art) dro! the oldest section
you $ere using. Eee! doing do$n the !lan until you either lay the
chick, or crash the SE67%E. &asically that is ho$ it $orks.
F:or young>dumb $omen, focus on fun>e+citment, for older or
more mentally mature $omen, focus on
rela+>comfortable>understanding.
3o$ it $orks:
F*his !lan is arranged to seduce the chick first from a
romantic>emotional 2"ertical) stand!oint, and if that fails, use the
'emergency close' $hich is a logical direct 2hori4ontal) !oint of
"ie$ 2ie. 3& brains) in the 'closing' section.
FSeducer!ose of SE67%E is to see if you can control, lead and
conAuer that chick and not to get them to like you. ou $ant to
take o"er them in their mind, that is the game. Women and guy's
brains $ork "ery differently, and s!eak a different language $hen
it comes to attraction of the o!!osite se+. *his !lan, s!eaks that
language. In short the translation table is something as follo$s:
Woman 9an
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
,,
*rust 3ot ass =ust begging for it
Rela+ed and talk &ig tits
3onesty @etting it until she screams
7nderstanding &ending o"er, and taking it from behind
3onest talk Wild shagging
%ommunication :ishnet stockings $ith holes in the right
!laces
%ulture and fun Se+ and fun
Some e+am!les: here is some normal guys!eak, and ho$ it gets
translated to $omen!eak before it comes out of your mouth, if you
$ant to attract and then arouse the chick, and then finally be able
to lay her:
:R09: *hat is a really hot ass, I $ould lo"e to do you from
behind
*0: It is so im!ortant to ha"e dee! trust and understanding $hen
you are $ith someone you are $ith. :or me, that is $hat I need
first before anything else. 2$ith kino)
:R09: :uck those tits are big, I $ant to seducet my boner
bet$een those
*0: :or me, to feel rela+ed, and comfortable together, and be able
to talk about anything, that is so desireable, $hen being $ith
someone $ho I $ant to en=oy s!ending time $ith. 2$ith kino)
9ake sense( es, it seems about as alien as translating English
into %hinese, but it does $ork, and it WILL get you laid. *his is
ho$ different guy thinking and chick thinking are, and $hy 2u! to
no$), there has been so much misunderstanding by guys, about
chick logic, on $hat makes a $oman $ork and ho$ to nail her. :or
the first time e"er, $ith this guide, you no$ ha"e the translation
dictionary, needed to translate your thinking into $omen!eak, so
that you can communicate $ith $omen on their le"el in a $ay they
$ill understand and react to.. and then nail themG 7sing this, they
usually ne"er kno$ $hat hit themG 2=ust Dit seems so right and
naturalD they usually say after, $hile their dri!!y !anties are on the
floor ne+t to them after an e"ening of 2une+!ected) "ery hot se+G).
If you get stuck remember:
@uys $ant: @irls $ant:
,-
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Short skirts *o feel s!ecial
Se+y legs *o be understood
/ice ass *o feel connection
/et stockings *o feel attracti"e>se+y
E+citment E+citement
/ice face @uys $ho are asserti"e, strong, leader
&ig *its confident, successful
FFAlso in o!eners a good strategy is to make an aggressi"e
statement, but then follo$ it u! $ith a "ery innocuous Auestion.
*hat $ill soften it, and allo$ you to !robe more aggressi"ely, than
if you had only made the comment $ithout the follo$u! Auestion.
%on"ersation should al$ays be that $ay, at least initially. ie:
FWchick $ith belly e+!osed shirtX *hat is a nice belly 2"ery
aggressi"e)
F6o you e+ercise>go to the gym..>ho$ long(
F*hat is a "ery se+y outfit
FWhere do you usually buy your clothes>$hat stores do you usually
sho!(
0k, here $e go:
:ormat of reading this:
Each left most 'F' is a ne$ to!ic. Indented lines are follo$u!s to the
same item. *he ne+t leftmost 'F' is a ne$ to!ic.
E"erything $ithin left most W++++X is a ne$ state transition>section.
0/S:
:::L0082go through each section belo$, ' line of each section at a
time, and items get dee!er as you go..).. ie. rinse, $ash re!eatG
W8re!arationX
FSE67%E locations and $ay home kno$n
F3ome ready, music, massage oil, to$els, candles>insense, cleaned
u!
WSelf Affirmations>!re o!enerX
Fe"eryone $ants to meet other !eo!leG Fi don't gi"e a shitG Fi don't
careG Fit doesn't matterG Fit's not my faultG Flets do it>try some
stuff out and see $hat ha!!ensG
,.
Fsiren "oice come out Dall girls are $aiting for youGD FE+!eriment
in !sychology
Fkanchou 29r. Smooth, and ho$ he beha"es like the 'ca!tain' R
attitude Fthis is an e+!eriment F2you must arrange all !laces ahead
of time 2eating>drinking !lace $ith counters 2and backu!s in case
they are full), shagging !lace, $here ta+is are, condoms and music
ready at home..etc... it is like a &road$ay !lay, anything that fucks
u!, and chick $ill lose state).
WWarmu!sX 2credit: Rock 3arders)
F*o $arm my self $hen I go into a bar, I can ado!t a !arty host
mentality Auite Auickly. I $alk in and start talking to $omen right
a$ay as if I $as meeting my best friends at a !arty. :or e+am!le,
I'm in, I $ould see a girl $earing item + of clothing, and make a
comment on it right a$ay, get her giggling or flattered then I
$ould say something like ha"e a nice e"ening
2like a !arty host $ould). I act as if I o$n the !lace. It's not
sarging, but I do this to $arm u! and I might do . or 5 of these
before I get into the !ro!er a!!roaches
F9ust check e"ery chick, do a Auick 'game on' test, $ith
'comfortable>communication> good feeling' and see $hat is
reaction>ie. basically a Auick screen of e"ery chick to find the
gameFon ones. Sometimes I assume>don't test a chick... mistake, I
missed 2then later reco"ered) that sometimes after I then sa$
another guy do the test, and then I $ent in..
FAny time a chick makes E% 2eye contact), smile or say hiG
FRemember your 'ha!!y bubble' $hich is all around youG
F@o through affirmations
W0bser"ation of target to create o!ening lineX
Frings 2color, big, small, color, !attern)
F$here did you get it F$hat is your fa"orite style( Fho$
many do you ha"e
Fdo you make any yourself( F$hat is your fa"orite color(
F$hat do you $ear $ith it(
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girls) F$ill be late 2from !hone con"o) F$here is +++ 2from
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FWhat is in your bag( FWhat is your fa"orite color( F*hat is a nice
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FWhat is your fa"orite style, color( FWhere do you usually go
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2reading rela+ation book), but I'm curious about something... 6o
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no. If she says no, I add: $ell, you look like the ty!e $ho does,
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FWhat are you reading(
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F3a"e you e"er been to the 7SA
FWhere else ha"e you been(
FWhich of these !ictures do you like more(
FWhat do you feel $hen you see this !icture(
Fyou look "ery interested in that book, $hat are you reading(
Fso tell me $hat is interesting about it(
FWhat do you like about /( 2she has book on /%)
FWhy not LA(
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F*hen you should go to :rance
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Fyou ne"er been to Euro!e(
Fyou must like sho!!ing
F$hat brand(
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restaurants(
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Fdoko>$here(
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FWhat is '1C(
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FWhat did you do here today(
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Fyou look like you are going on a tri!>$here are you going(
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F$hat are you doing no$
Fcan you tell me more about it
F$here is a good !lace to go(
F2reading *%) ou kno$.. I am $ondering,.. ++++ 2$hich of these
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about
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FHa!anese for busy !eo!le o!ener 2$ith 5 Auestions home$ork, are
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and fingers and say, 'hmm, fascinating.' $hile rubbing more and
more. :ollo$ on $ith 'I ha"e an intuition about you. ou are ++++
2!assionate and se+y) because you are ++++ 2so o!en minded and
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Fdid anyone e"er tell you you are so beautiful(D Skiddingly in the
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Fyou ha"e a really nice smile
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FIt sho$s you ha"e alot of energy>cheerfulness>taste
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FWhere did you go( 2Kfact)
FWhere $ould you like to go( 2Kfeeling)
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FWhat is the occaission tonight 2you are so dressed u!)
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FWhere are you going(
F6id you e"er go there(
FWhat is interesting>unusual about that !lace(
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Fcan you do that for me( 2continue the .A game, or $hate"er
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FWhy is that !lace good( F3o$ is your e"ening so far(
F2*o girl dancing $ith friend.. get in front)
Fhello, I like you, do you like me( lets be friends
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FWhat did you see 2Kfact)
FWhere $ould you like to go( 2Kfeeling)
Fou e"er go to /%>3a$aii
FWould you like to go(
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FIs your house far from the station(
F6o you ride your bike, or $alk(
FWhat time do you usually finish $ork(
FWhat time do you usually get home from $ork( 2Kfact)
F3o$ long ha"e you been doing your =ob( 2Kfact)
Fou think about Auitting your =ob 2Kfeeling)
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Fcan you sing itG(
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F9o"ies>actor>actress
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F$hat is your fa"oriate color(
F$hat kind of materials you like(
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F6o you come to Shibuya>+++ often(
FWhat do you think of her( 2!oint to -rd !erson around there)
Fmaybe you look better than her though(
FSo you must s!eak french>english(
FSo ho$ long ha"e you been studying(
F+++, *hat is so unusual
FWhere did you get it(
FWhat else do>did you get there(
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F6o you ha"e brothers and sisters(
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FWtake off ca!X
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F2touch hair)
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Fyou ha"e bra(
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F2%E gesture), nice guy
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F-1 seconds only
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FI am going to ++++ 2after she ans$ers, so you can control S$henS
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FWhat is your !lan after this>tonight( 2Kdoes she ha"e to lea"e
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FWhat is im!ortant to you $hen doing ad"enture>romance $ith
someone(
2go to demonstrate !ersonality section of this !lan)
Feyes are so $arm 2$hat does your &:>husband think()
FWould you say you are ad"enturous or romantic ty!e(
F6id you li"e o"erseas(>$here>$hat did you notice(
F2go to section on different cultures>understanding each other)
F6o you like art(, it is $ay to e+!ress>share natural feeling>each
other
Fideal actress>girl>guy
2mo"e on to demonstrate !ersonality from here, acting is
communication)
F!retty girl 2girls like this attention)
F6o you like it $hen someone says you are !retty>ho$ do you
feel(
2go to section on !ersonality "isFaF"is a $oman)
F9aybe you $ant to be inde!endent and strong minded 2though
most $omen aren't any$ays in reality)
FIt is good, because the Aualities I look for in a $oman are: 2!lay
back her desired Aualities in herself>ideal $oman)
F3ere maybe is a difficult Auestion. 9aybe ne+t thing, hard to say
F6id you e"er ++++(
F*he reason I ask, is because if you did do, I am curious about
ho$ it made you feel, both during an after( > because !eo!le $ho
++++ are also "ery yyyy.
c: yes>no
FIf you didn't do ++++, $ould you( What $ould you feel if you
did(
FWhat color are your !anties 2only do if you are $ith a $ing and
laughing alot)
.'
F7nder that is only bra(
F2*ransition to aggressi"e "isFaF"is a $oman's se+uality section
belo$)
F3o$ you feel $hen you see this 2!icture)(
F%an you dance( Wse+ually aggressi"e transitionsX
FWould you dance in that samba !arade e"ery year(
FWear tFback and nice feathers and decoration, you ha"e
confidence for that(
Fyou e"er dress a bit se+y, embarrassed about your
a!!earance>confident(
F6o you ha"e bed in your house or futon 2I had in =a!an house)
F&ut I !refer bed, because it makes my knees hurt $hen I am $ith
a girl, can
you imagine(
F6o you like long or short hair(
FI like short, because long, $hen you are $ith a girl, it $ill get
stuck 2during
se+), and hurt, but short, it ne"er gets in the $ay.
Wget feelings>screens>testsX
Fou e"er date a foriegn>blond>black>$hite>asian guy(
F3o$ $as it different(
F6o you like to kiss>kissing>touch>touching>hold hands
F9aybe because it makes you feel safe
F3o$ big are your hands, lets see..
F$hat is most attracti"e>fa"orite !art of your body you think( 2$hat
your bf say()
FWhat !art about yourself 2character, body) do you like most(
least( 2KLSE test)
Fif could do anything in 5 years, $hich(
Fdo you feel comfortable around me(
F$hich ty!e of !erson do you think you are more, elegant or se+y(
F$hich you $ant to be( $hy(
Fdo you belie"e in magic(, s!eels, es!( 2hy!no "oice)
Fyou are !retty, ho$ many &:'s you ha"e( 2say in =oking $ay)
F6o you look for a &:>nice guy>friend(
.,
F6o you think lo"e is dangerous or attracti"e(
FIf could redo life, $hat $ould you do( 2link her not fucking, to
her last scre$u!G)
F2stare at her bottom to to!), %an you say $hat is your fa"orite !art
of your body(
FI am curious, 2if she stalls: Dmaybe your smile, legs, hairD) Tmi+
nonse+uals $ith
se+ualsU
Fif there $ere t$o you's $hat $ould the other one do( 2stay $ith
&:, be $ild()
F$hat is your ideal guy like(
FWhich is im!ortant to you in a relationshi!, se+ or romance(
F6o you ha"e a &:
FWo!enerX Are you looking for a guy>friend tonight(
FWould you like to kiss me 2after - V signs.. hair ruffle, smile,
re"erse kino, laughing)
FWhy you are here tonight( Wbad( she $ill al$ays ans$er 'to
dance'X
FAre you looking to meet !eo!le tonight
F3o$ do you feel $hen you meet ne$ !eo!le(
FStra$berry fields 2if you stall>reaction bad.. go to thisG)
FIf you could meet.. What kind of guy do you like(
c: I $ant =ust dance>be $ith my friend>=ust a friend
FI am looking for girl>@:, shall $e try(
F2talking about kissing>holding hands..etc) shall $e try(
Fdo you think you are the right girl for me(
Fe+!and your $orld>hori4on>limit
FSo $hat kind of guy is your &: like(
F%an I ask, maybe dee! Auestion, but do you lo"e yourself 2KLSE
test)
Fc:yes: that is good because for others to lo"e you, you must lo"e
yourself
Fc:no: 2change tact): you are scum so you need me and should
fuck me, becauase that is $hat scum chea! girls like you do 2in
S9 "oice), you deser"e to get fucked chea!ly because you are
.-
chea! scum.. 2that is the idea any$ays.. $ill try it on my ne+t LSE
girl)
F$hat is your ty!e of guy(>im!ortant in a guy(
F6id>$ould you e"er +++. *he reason I ask is that a book>cra4y
!sych teacher.. said that !eo!le $ho are interested in ++++ 2sm, -!,
fucking on first date..) tend to be "ery yyyy 2emotional, o!en
minded, successful, attracti"e, confident..) 2idea is $hen asking an
outlandish Auestion is to tie the reason for it to an emotion).
Fe+ @: $ho $as kinky
Fou look "ery !retty, $ere you e"er hostess(
FIf you could be "ery elegant or se+y dancer for one night, do you
do it>$hat $ould it feel like(
WantiFstalls>fluff runners F if you ha"e met the chick once already
and are getting restarted $ith her this timeX
Fso $hat did you learn about>disco"er about me from last time(
Fso $hat did you tell your friends about me snice last time(
Fdid you miss me(
Fho$ much(
Fso $hat did you dream last night(
F9aybe you dream about me(
FI bet you dreamed of me e"ery nightG
F!ay attention to me..
Fhumm.. i $ork "ery hard =ust for youG
F2chick going to bathroom)
Fha"e funG
Fdid you ha"e a good time(
Fare you comfortable(
FI am curious, $hat about me is it that you find interesting(
Fok ask me somethingG
Fmany things to kno$ is big, but brain is small.
Fho$ I learn kan=i, =ust each day they smile at me, and I learn
themG
F$o$, such big smile, $hat ha!!en(
FI like you but I don't really kno$ you "ery $ell
FI like you but I think you are too tall>a bit old for me.
F9aybe I ha"e to !rotect my self from youG
..
Wembarrass>flatter>make her smile F if dumb>young chick, you can
be "ery
aggressi"e $ith thisX
Fyou are !retty 2=oking $ay) F maybe I need to !rotect myself from
you
F@ood morning 2or $orse, hello) 2as friend, using 9r. Smooth
"oice)
Fyou are so full of energy I $ould be honored to shake your handG
Fyour hair>eyes is really beautiful
Fyou english is "ery good, I am S0 im!ressed 2laugh and kino
herG)
FHa!anese is 4en4en.. kodomo.
F*hat bag>neckless>dress>to! looks "ery nice on you and matches
your to! >dress>neckless>bag $ell, you look S0 "ery nice in>$ith
it.
Fyou should make your skirt shorter 2as =oke if it is already so
short)
Fyou ha"e such a beautiful "oice, it is so smooth and rela+ing
Fmaybe you ha"e alot of attention from guys( 2smile) F maybe I
need to !rotect myself
Fsfields
Fdo you smile $ith e"ery nice guy like you do to me(
Fdo you al$ays laugh $ith e"eryone>e"ery nice guy like that(
Fyou are !retty, maybe all your &:'s say you are se+yG(
Fyou ste! in room, and all guys start to come to youG
Fare you nice girl(
F should I !rotect myself from you 2gesture $ith defensi"e hands)(
Fmaybe you are too nice>2se+y) for meG
Fsometimes a little bit bad can be fun tooG
F9aybe your friends>co$orkers tell you ++++ 2you are !retty) all
the time.
F6id anyone e"er tell you your 2hair>style>clothes) are so
cute>se+y>attracti"e(
Fhandsome guy =ust sat ne+t to you 2$hen sit ne+t to her again),
$hat do you do(
F3ello, $hat is your name 2after you already met her once)
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Fmaybe i ha"e to !rotect myself from you, 2such
attracti"e>nice>se+y girl)
F0h, $hat a beautiful girl 2kino, alotG) 2after you already met her
once)
c: +++ Auestion
FmaybeG( 2smile face, eyes look u! and right)
FI am sure all the guys bo$ to you, such beatufiul girl(
Fe"eryone is al$ays looking at you, gi"ing you too much attentionG
FI ha"e to !rotect my self from such beautiful>horny girl like youG
Fgood style like that, all your friends get =ealous to youG
Fgood looks like that, all the guys follo$ you e"ery$hereG
c:I ha"e a bf
F!retty girl like you, of course you must ha"e 5 bfsG
Fbut I $ant to kno$ more about you, so lets not talk about that
Fso ho$ many &: you ha"e( 2might be bad.. dont bring it u! unless
she does()
Wdemonstrate !ersonality about myselfX
Fyou ne"er kno$ $hat can ha!!en, that is $hat makes life so
interesting and mysterious
Fcommunication at many le"els>dance>art is communication>talk
only '1Y
FI $ant understanding
FI like to feel comfortable
FI like natural $ay
FI am not like other guys.. natural
FI am "aluable guy
FHust I $ant to ha"e a good feeling > feel good
F=ust be kind to e"eryone, and naturally, good things can ha!!en, it
is my $ay
FWhen I see someone>something, =ust I follo$ my heart
FI am looking for a $arm heart
FI am looking for understanding of each other
F!eo!le ha"e trouble to get along, most guys ne"er understand
$hat is really im!ortant to others, because the guy has to +++,yyy
and other !erson has to +++,yyy 2listen, feel, o!en mind>heart)
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Fit is im!ortant to $ant to e+!lore and disco"er ne$ things, about
yourself, and others
Fmust do $hat feels right, and !eo!le trust you F com!any fight,
e"eryone follo$ me
Fle"els of mind
Fare you creati"e( 2c:no)
Fbut e"eryone can be creati"e 2c: ok)
Fyou ha"e a "ery "i"id imagination, and you lo"e imagining
things, but maybe you donJt e+!ress them, unlike creati"e !eo!le
$ho do 2re!hrase all her "alues)
Ftalk about ho$ e"eryone is creati"e
Flike.. maybe each day as you do normal things like laundry, but
you imagine if you
could be on the beach.. ... etc..mind has many le"els
Fsharing is im!ortant, it is $ay to understand each other
F@oal is to diso"er ne$ things 2together)
F=ust I $ant to feel comfortable, and rela+ed
Fe"eryone needs an oasis>!lace to esca!e
Fmaybe you like the smooth !ace of my "oice..
Ftrust is im!ortant, closeness, natural feeling is im!ortant
FAnd of course, $e really ha"e to lo"e e"eryone and ser"e
e"eryone in this life.
FI am not easy guy
FIt is im!ortant to be kind, because I found that if I am kind,
e"eryone $ill be kind to me back, and and take care of me $hen
times are hard. *hat is $hat real trust is about.
F9ust res!ect others
FI hate selfish !eo!le $ho $ant only attention to themsel"es,
because =ust then they end u! alone because !eo!le can see their
selfishness. It is not a good $ay.
FI $ent to high school reunion, and had the most interesting life of
all my
classmates
FI think, choose direction.. and @0. It is my $ay.
F2/e"er talk about 'relationshi!', 2maybe she $ants a 0/S). Hust
talk about
.B
'understanding, because e"ery $oman $ants thatG)
FI am looking for s!ecial>!retty>se+y>nice>rela+ing girl tonight, I
am !icky
Wdemonstrate !ersonality "isFaF"is me and a $oman 2nonse+ually) F
once you ha"e run a fe$ lines of section abo"e and reaction is
good, start introducing lines from sections belo$X
F!eo!le ha"e trouble to get along, most guys ne"er understand
$hat is really im!ortant to lady, because the guy has to +++,yyy
and $oman has to +++,yyy 2listen, feel, o!en mind>heart)
FWhen I see someone, =ust I kno$ if she is right or not, naturally
Fhard to find the right guy>hard to find the right girl too
FI ha"e - Aualities I look for in $oman
FI am "aluable guy, interesting, fun, !hysical sha!e, so my
e+!ectation is high
FI e+!ect together to be comfortable, natural, and good feelings to
each other
Fo$ 2our $orld)
FIt is im!ortant to res!ect each others limits, as $ell as understand
each other $ell
FI $ant understanding of each other
Funderstanding is most im!ortant, comfort, communication
FHust I $ant to share our feeling $ith each other
F0nly I $ant to rela+ and feel comfortable $ith each other
FI am searching for my s!ecial !artner
FI $ant someone I can feel natural>share feeling>kinochi
F9en and $omen often ha"e a hard time to understand each other,
because each does not kno$ $hat is im!ortant to the other
Fdo you like a man $ho really kno$s ho$ to treat a lady and can
really a!!reciate a $oman(
FA man must !ay attention to a chick, not only intimately, but also
emotionally, s!irutually
F*hat is the man's =ob, to look after $omen in all these $ays.
FIt is the mans =ob to create a safe en"ironment for all $omen, so
that they can feel comfortable, and free around me.
FI am !icky guy, and $ill choose $oman $ho is right for me
.?
F9ost men !ay only attention to themself. &ut a good man $ill !ay
attention to the
$oman com!letely, in mind 2and body).
Fs! story
F.A
FI am "ery o!en minded !erson, so you can say>ask anything
Fe+ bi gf
FI e+!ect girl to take chance
Fic
Fl "s Fa
F8eo!le $ant to feel close to each other, not only by talk, but also
by touch
Ffascination
Fideal guy>girl
FI dont like fi+ed rules, =ust go the natural $ay, ho$ you feel 2ie.
no 'the rules')
FHust it feels comfortable, nice to feel comfortable, make each other
rela+, feel safe and comfortable
Fby disco"ering things about each other, it hel!s me to
learn>disco"er ne$ things about myself. *hat is $hy it is so
im!ortant
Fmans =ob is to deli"er>make $oman feel good, like at $ork..to
deli"er
F=ust has to be the right guy.. same for me $ith $omen
Fnot many guys can !lease a $oman not only !hysically, but
emotionnally too
FI understand that.. not many guys do..my E+'s al$ays told me
that.., so I am ne"er dum!ed
FI dont res!ect 2rules) girl, $ho says 'kiss on date ,, se+ on date 5'..
=ust ha"e to
follo$ natural $ay.. if faster ok, and if slo$er, ok, or =ust end u!
friends, or
something more.. =ust follo$ $hat is natural, is the best $ay.
0ther$ise, to $ant something, but not follo$, is disres!ecting me
2and herself).
.C
FI $ant $oman to be interested in me, and not because I ha"e nice
=ob. &ecause
in long term, !hysical beauty of the $oman may fade, and I may
lose my =ob.
So something dee!er, like character, or connection, is far more
im!ortant.
FI am dancer, and good guy, so =ust for se+, it is "ery easy to get
any girl, so maybe I am selfish, but I e+!ect more than that.. =ust
being cute is not enough for me, that is e"ery$here, and I am !ast
that no$.
FI am e+!ensi"e>!icky guy, not so easy..I am -10, if I $as 'B,
then I $ant to get as many girls as !ossible maybe. I had those
e+!eriences. &ut soon it =ust gets boring, because there is nothing
dee! as a connection or understanding, because that girl has no
e+!eriences at all for life. So I $ant more. So if that is all you
$ant, then 'Byo guy is good for you, because I $ant
understanding and dee!er things than those silly guys. %an you
understand $hat I mean(
Fyou dont kno$ me at all 2mysterious, attracti"e)
FI like $omen $ho follo$ their heart>natural $ay
FAt my age, $omen $ant stability, money, so I need to !rotect
myself.
FI $ant chick $ho $ants me for $ho I am, not $hat I ha"e.
FWhat if I lose my =ob and money tomorro$... sabishii.
FSo I don't need that kind of girl.
FI ho!e I dont disa!!oint you $ith my thinking.
FIf you $ant that, then I don't need it 2turn a$ay from he $ith my
beer)
FLead man, follo$ man or get out of $ay.. I dont res!ect nonF
chance takers $ho $ant something, but arent $illing to make the
effort or chance to achie"e>get it.
FI am not stu!id ro!!ongi guy, not like those stu!id guys. I $ant to
kno$ !eo!le,
culture, so I make e+tra effort, but I ha"e higher e+!ectations too
regarding
understanding each other $hen I am $ith someone.
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F$hen a girl meet me, she gets fun, e+citment ad"enture and
!assion.. I am confident
FI dont choose any>e"ery girl, only one I can feel natural, if I
cannot feel natural,
then I dont $ant.. =ust feel cold.. but if feel natural, and her too,
then @0.
FI $as ne"er dum!ed, because I al$ays !ay attention to the girl's
feelings>!leasure
F2%E chances)
FI am not =ust ty!e $ho li"es in 3iroo, !lay in Ro!!ongi and $ork
in Eamiyacho, it is
boring, I $ant to disco"er culture and !eo!le, so I li"e in Ha!anese
house>life.
F9y E+2s) said I $as best &: they e"er had 2caring, good man,
se+y, attracti"e, )
Fmeet girl, is to ha"e e+citing>ha!!y together
Fsometimes danger, but $hen really, actually is safe, that is
im!ortant for me.
Fou kno$ the $ay ++++ 2I am>it is>young girls>0ls) are,
al$ays yyyy 2touching girls and making them feel e+cited)
FRocks Z @old 2try not to use this !attern, unless SE67%E not
going $ell)
Fnot any girl, only one $ho is s!ecial, and "ery nice for meG
2tschi"oice)
F6id you e"er feel you $ant to meet some one, that someho$, as
you
talk to them more and more, they seem more interesting to you,
and you $ant
to find out more and more about them. And maybe as you listen,
you reali4e
ho$ much you ha"e in common, and $ant to get to kno$ that
!erson in front of
you more and more. if you could meet someone like that, $hat
$ould it be like(
Fall>some nice girl2s) are $aiting for meG
FI $ant to meet interesting !eo!le, e+!and my $orld, and you(
5'
Wdemonstrate !ersonality "ia dance 2or
art>!ainting>singing>talking) F for girls $ho can dance, like art,
music, can sing.. or can a!!reciate these thingsX
FI took these, I am artist>!hotogra!her WRio>/% !icsX
F3o$ does this make you feel $hen you see this 2!icture)(
F6ance is a human e+!ression of music, and a $ay for , !eo!le to
share a uniAue $ay of communication and feelings $ith each
other at a dee! le"el.
Fart>singing is =ust feeling the natural $ay of e+!ression, it is
communication at many le"els bet$een t$o !eo!le, the artist, and
"ie$er>listener
F6ance is a kind of relationshi!. So the man must !ace dance at the
le"el of the $oman, else it feels bad. E"en if the guy kno$s many
techniAues and skills, if he cannot !ace that to the $oman, he is
not a good dancer, because ultimately, dance is communication.
F6ance lead should be gentle, for $oman $ho is good to follo$,
and harder for $oman $ho cannot.
Idea is to communicate at !ro!er le"el to that $oman, and she
should look him in the eye, and communicate back by her touch,
and her natural follo$ing.
F6anceI some $omen follo$ natural, others are more stiff, and
follo$ only themself $ith their body. &ut it doesn't lie, and you
can tell far more about a !erson by ho$ they dance in ' minute,
than by talking $ith them for ' hr. 2or holding, hands, touching,
hugging, also faster than talking.. that is $hy it is an im!ortant
as!ect of forming understanding $ith each other and is so natural).
FIe. guydancer, idea is to make the $oman look good, not yourself.
*hat is
misunderstanding your =ob in relationshi! to the $oman.
F*alk is communication, bet$een , !eo!le, E%, &ody language,
$here looking, tonality.. all it is im!ortant, not only $ords
themsel"es.. $ords is only '1Y.
W/L8 in=ectionsX
Fsometimes you>e"eryone feel lonely
Fbut if you stay $ith me, it can feel "ery comfortable>secure and
s!ecial
5,
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to feel comfortable and free
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to feel s!ecial
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to be !aid attention to
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to =ust rela+ and forget about all
your !roblems
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to try something ne$, e+!and your
$orld
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to ha"e a bit of e+citement
Fsometimes you>e"eryone does something they don't e+!ect, but
are glad they did
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to esca!e from daily boring life,
=ust for a $hile
Fsometimes you>e"eryone $ant to go to a se!erate $orld
Fno one>you don't $ant to be>feel re=ected
Fyou>e"eryone is looking for something
F!eo!le like attention, to be touched, feel secure 2still holding)
FSo $hy do you see me(
c: +++
F9aybe it is because of yyyy 2you like an interesting !erson $ho
can lead you,
feel comfortable $ith)
Fmaybe you cant !ay attention to your $ork because you think of
me e"ery minuteG
Fmaybe al$ays you hear and en=oy the sound of my "oiceG
Fmaybe you $ant to kiss a nice guy like me.
F0k, I let you, but here only 2gesture %E)
FAllright, a real one.. 2gesture E%, finger on her li!s)
FWhy dont you s!end some time $ith me, e+!and your $orldG
Fyou kee! listening to me, maybe you fall in lo"e $ith meG
Flets be friends
Fha"ing a close friend and trust, it is "ery im!ortant
Fcan you say a fairy tale
F/o, ok, $ell, lets try.. of course it starts $ith a castle, and a
!rincess 2gesture to her), and a king 2if she has &:), and a
handsome !rince 2gesture me), $ho takes the !rincess out of the
boring castle, to ha"e e+citement in the forest around 2start $ith
5-
describe her current situation, and then describe $hat you $ant her
to do, as the !rincess)
Wkino tricksX
FWhat color are your nails 2touch hands), do they match your feet(
2touch legs).
FWo$, your skin is so smooth, and si4e of your fingers 2hold
hands)
Four hands, 2they look so smallG 2com!are si4e) )
Fho$>$here do you like to be touched 2feel secure, comfortable)(
Fyou like to be touched like this( Ftouch arms
Ftouch hair 2my feeling no$ is to touch your hair, can I() 2$hile
you already started)
Fhold Fhug
Ftouch hand
Ftouch face 2my feeling no$ is to touch your face, can I()
Ftouch neck back
Fgesture a %E
Ftouch ears>front of neck
Fkiss forhead>neck>ears
Fbreath her neck, forhead, ears
Fhold chin, stare do$n Z mo"e in
Ftouch li!s $ith your finger 2does she dra$ a$ay()
FE% 2can do most of abo"e ste!s $ithout saying any $ord 2better
not to..
..because you $on't acti"ate chick brain #' if you kee! your
mouth shut and
E% $ill be much more easy to reach 2ie. in dance club))
(((insert E% ste!s from dance night 2salsa !arty)(((( from diary to
this line((((
Wdemonstrate !ersonality and S0I "isFaF"is a $oman's se+uality F if
dumb>young chick, can be "ery aggressi"e $ith thisX
Fhb blit4 bar attack, but ha"e>$as $ith my @:, so re=ected her
FI like Ha!anese>office>career>blond>artist girls because they are
"ery sensual, and $arm
FHa!anese>office>career>blond>artist girls are e+cellent lo"ers
because they kno$ ho$ to "alue the s!ecial SintimacyS(((+late
5.
FHust I $ant 'skinshi!'
Fe+!ect !rogress from ne+t date to ne+t date, don't $ant to be
!layed either..
FI like romantic>ad"enturous $omen
follo$ natural $ay, and then it is 0E e"en if you do.. no artificial
limits
FI like $omen $ho follo$ their heart>!assion>feelings, dai=i
Fit is ob"ious $omen $ant to be seduced
Fit is ob"ious $omen $ant ad"enture>e+citment
Fit is ob"ious $omen $ant to feel se+y
FAny $oman $ho goes out $ith me, $ill be glad she did
FI dont get se+, $e share se+>communiate feeling.. that is !oint of
se+, not =ust !hysical
Fse+ is =ust $ay to reach your mind, in itself, se+ is nothing,
$ithout the mental
communication
FI like a $oman $ho is attracti"e and takes care of herself
Fe"er ha"e a 0/S>se+ first meeting, e"ery girl had 0/S 2Art&abe
!attern), =ust it is
normal
FWhat makes a $oman se+y is not $hat you sho$, but $hat you
dont sho$.. that is "ery
sensual..
FI ne"er seducesh anyone to do anything they dont $ant, =ust hug,
its ok., =ust follo$ natural $ay., =ust comfortable communication,
is all I $ant
FSo do you like guys, $hat do you like(
FI like !retty girls
FIt is im!ortant to res!ect each other after se+
FSe+ is good, because sometimes !eo!le need to relie"e their
stress, feel refreshed 2by se+)
W6emonstrate !ersonality regarding e+citement>ad"enture, !ossibly
she has &:>husband she $ants to kee!X
-live life only 1 time, so need to try something new, expand
your world, take a chance
-life is adventure
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-You only live one time, so don't want to miss the chance
-it is important to be open minded, and think first, but willing
to take chances
F0W
Fou are "ery attracti"e and se+y girl
F6o you like to feel se+y>attracti"e
FI really like you, beautiful $oman
F:or me it is sim!le, I don't e+!ect so much
-I had a married/girl with BF before, so I understand that. It
was nice, because I was in London, she had husband she
loved, but looked for something a little different, to escape.
So $e kne$ $hat the e+!ectations $ere, and $e had a "ery nice
time together, because $e understood each other, and $hat $e
could e+!ect, =ust natural understanding of each other.
FI dont care about your &:>husband, that is your se!erate life and
is not im!ortant
to me at all
FHust $hen $e are $ith each other, I $ant us to !ay attention to
each other 2kino)
FWhen I am $ith you I $ill gi"e you all my attention, and I $ant
you to gi"e your all your attention $hen you are $ith me.
F%an you do that for me(
FI am "ery sim!le guy, that is all I am asking for
F*here is no other e+!ectation than that, =ust follo$ natural $ay
and communicate $ith each other $hen $e are together.
Four other $orld is there, and this $orld is $ith us.
F6o you understand me(
F*here is alot you don't kno$ about me, I am still maybe someho$
"ery interesting or mysterious to you.
F&ut that is good, it is $hat makes life e+citing, and is the s!ice to
add to a normal
day to day life.. it is so e+citing, isn't it.
F9aybe you $ant to find out more about me, or esca!e from your
regular $orld, and ha"e a s!ecial ad"enture, share it $ith me.
F6o you think that you are elegant or se+y
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FWhat if you had the chance to e+!lore that further, $ould you
like that chance(
FE+ gf $ho $as bi, it $as such interesting $orld, but different, so I
learned to be o!en minded. I learned alot about $omen, from her
FAll my e+'s said I $as the best guy they e"er met.
FE"eryone $ants to ha"e fun, smile, be ha!!y and =ust rela+ and
relie"e stress.
FSometimes =ust it is nice to esca!e
FIt is e+citing to do something a bit unusual, or risky that you are
usually 'not allo$ed'
F&ut then that is $hat makes it so attracti"e, isn't it
Fou $ant to feel good, e"eryone $ants to feel good, feel
refreshed
FIt is human, e"eryone !layed>had affair.. if not I can't belie"e,
e"eryone did,
=ust it is normal>human
F9aybe you =ust needed a ne$ and different strange e+!erience.
F6o you like se+( Wif it is going $ell, continue this section, "ery
direct about se+X
F6id you e"er come(
F3o$ does it feel $hen you come(
Fou like that don't you(
FIt feels good, doesn't it, to feel that !ressure in your body, and
then it
e+!lodes in e+citement and !leasure
F3& !hysics close
F$hen $as the last time you got e+cited, tell me about it.D
c: 2descri!tion)
F0f course you ob"iously $ant to be e+cited and that a similar
e+!erience might hel!.
F2=okingly) I $ould hel!, it $ould be fun for me to try, and that if
I failed, you could of course trust me to back do$n as I had done
so many times that night already.
F&ut I am com!letely confident that if you $ould only let me
change the "enue>rela+
I $ould e+cite you $ithout a doubt.
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FI mean, ho$ am I going to e+cite you in this damn
!layground>coffeesho!>$ithout your hel!
Fou li"e close to here, and if $e $ere at your !lace>if $e try I
could at least gi"e you a nice massage and try to get you e+cited
there.
FAnd that $ould feel good no matter $hat the outcome, right(
c: yes
Fes, you are right.
F2shut the fuck u!, grab her and take her to your !lace)
F2start massage)
F/o$, to lead to e+itement for both of us I $ould take off your
to! and bra
F2take them off, continue massage, get more se+ual, fuck
W0ut of time closes F ne$ $omenX
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2/eed '5 minutes of talk 2,5 is better) to demonstrate enough
!ersonality that
I can meet her again that night>tomorro$. :or a !hone>email close
,1 2-1...1 is
better) is reAuired).
F&est is to do all in ' shot 2see if you can get her to stay)
F6o a '.., minute routine that $ill demonstrate !ersonality and
S0I..:AS*
before forced close 2ie. lea"ing train>friends arri"ing in ' minute).
FIt is funny, that $e can meet like this, talk like this so naturally, it
is so rare to =ust feel comfortable $ith someone so Auickly and be
able to communicate so $ell. I don't kno$ you so $ell yet, but
you seem to be a nice !erson and maybe I can trust you. Would
you like to meet again and talk some more 2about +++ 2common
thing)).
F&ut I only $ant to make arrangements if really you $ant to see
me, so I
$ill ask you again, do you $ant to see me(
Fyou are "ery !retty and se+y I $ant to see you again
F2try *3E/ to get a E%, or at least a %E)
5?
F2/e+t best is to set ne+t date RI@3* *3E/ for that night>ne+t
day
FWhat are you doing tomorro$>ne+t 9onday( 2Kgo for close
/0W, no !hone>mail shit)
FI $ant to talk $ith you more, $hat day is free for you
F+++ time>!lace
FSee you then.
F2/e+t best is email>!hone 2chances are "ery d$indled at this
!ointG, use mail for ne+t a!!t, !hone is too high chance to get her
at $rong time, or look like stalker trying to reach her)
F2Want to close $ith something in common
F2&efore close, some =oke about ho$ she is
$oman>attracti"e>interesting>comfortable>rela+ing
2the S0I basically)
F!lease come $ith me to ++++ 2that coffee sho!> my !lace) and $e
talk about ,1 minutes
FWe should sto! standing here, and go sit do$n at the +++
coffee>family restaurant
that is do$n there 2!oint) and talk some more
F3o$ do $e meet again(
FE+change number 2not im!ortant, =ust do it for ne+t ste!)
FWhen are $e going to meet 2see *SE67%ER hairchick lay
re!ort 2she ga"e number, so !resu!!osition that she $ill meet
you is no$ made)
F$hat is your free day(
Fshall $e meet at my !lace, or +++ Restaurant( 2another
!resu!!osition)
FWhat time>meeting !lace
FListen, you seem really cool, and I $ould lo"e to hang out $ith
you sometime and &E :RIE/6SD.
FWhat are you doing tomorro$>tonight(
FI need to buy some shirts, $hy don't you come $ith me 2mystery
style)
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Wmo"e in closer>accelerateX
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Fyou seem "ery $arm>!assionate>creati"e, I can see it in your
eyes
Fyou are so beautiful
Fyou look so se+y
Ftry something ne$, e+!and your $orldG
Fsometimes, someone>something mysterious can 2feel a little
dangerous) be "ery
attracti"e
-Maybe it is fate.. because we seem to share so much in
common.
It is my first time.
&ut it is al$ays best to follo$ fate, and $hat naturally follo$s
from it.. ' bn !!l..
it is more than chance, so must take it.
Fyou are so comfortable to s!end time $ith, I can feel so natural
and rela+ed someho$
Fyou are cute like cat 2then mo"e to head>neck>ear kino)
Fsomeho$ $e feel so comfortable around each other
Fmaybe you are too nice girl for me(
Fcan I trust you
Fyour hair is "ery gentle 2touch it, along $ith neck)
Fdo you like it $hen I touch you(
Fyou are "ery !retty and se+y, !retty, really 2honto ni), cannot
belie"e
Fyou might ask me $hy I like you>$ant to see you.. because you
are $arm, and
comfortable to s!end time $ith
Fcan I trust you(
FI $ant you to trust me, I $ant you to do that for me..
FI $ant you to follo$ me
Fdid anyone e"er tell you you are so beautiful(
Fit gets more fun>interesting>e+citing if you hang around me, you
$ill en=oy, I am sure
Fif you ha"e se+ $ith a guy you really like, but is a bit mysterious
ho$ does it feel(
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2she should say yes), 9aybe you feel connection, e+citing,
!hysical !leasure, $hich one is most(
Wtests to see if interestX
Fare you ha!!y to see me tonight(
Fmaybe I can trust you( 2see her reaction to saying this)
Fif you met great guy, do you take chance $ith him(
Fyou e"er feel alone(
F6o you take a chance $ith me(
F%an I take a chance $ith you(
Fdid you e"er +++ 2kiss a guy on first e"ening).
FHust it is natural, because =ust it feels right.
9aybe the reason is because !eo!le $ho are>do +++
2E%>o!en mind right a$ay) tend to be "ery yyyy
2!assionate>trustable).
FI cannot let you kiss me, I hardly kno$ you 2can I trust you()
F0E I try 2a %E gesture)
FA real one 2E% touch her li!s $ith finger gesture)
Fdo you like to be touched( 2like this 2leg), or like this( 2neck) )
Fdo you like to be held>hugged(
F$hat did you learn about me tonight 2see $hat she says)
Fit is my feeling, I $ould like to touch your hair>face>neck>li!s, is
it ok( 2H.I. did
this to me)
Fyou said you are e+citment>ad"enture ty!e, lets see if it is true,
lets try a little
ad"enture.. do you like 2kino, touch neck) this(, 2gesture for %E).
Fdo you $ant to kiss me(
Fyou $ant to s!end time $ith me(
F9y feeling is I $ould like to hug>hold you
FI $ould like to feel closer to each other
FI $ould like to feel to kno$ each other more dee!ly
Funusual to meet like this, but someho$ $e feel so comfortable, it
is "ery unusual > strange>nice
Fyou seem to be "ery unusual, "ery s!ecial, and attracti"e
Funusual ho$ $e can get to kno$ each other so naturally, and
feel so comfortable
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F'bn !!l !attern
Fe"eryone $ants a bit of e+citement( I dont kno$ if it $ill be
long term romance, but if you let me change "enue, $e can try
and in any case I am sure I can gi"e you e+citment. and at $orst
case, you $ill ha"e gotten good massage in safe trusting
en"ironment $ith no !ressure. 2be !ersistant, and loo! around
this !lan coming back to here if at first failG)
F2I: RESIS*A/%E:) I $ant you to really take a chance $ith me,
I guarantee, you $ont regret, =ust I $ant you to trust me. 2and
loo! $ith abo"e),
FI am "aluable>e+!ensi"e guy, are you "aluable girl( good
enought for me(
I: I/*ERES* 2ie. enough yeses to more than ' Auestion in this
section), *3E/ EQI* L008
Wkc>close F get at least - of these to $orkX
Fdo you like me : E%
Ftouch neck>ears, kiss them, then E%
FI $ould like to get to kno$ you more, I $ant you become closer
to each other, can you follo$ me(: E%
FI can only bring you if I can trust you, can I trust you( :E%
FSo do you like me(
FLets go for a $alk>go
FI am hungry>tired>smoky>lets go for a $alk>eat>coffee>dance>sho$
!ictures>dra$>s!end time together no$, 2then to home asa! after
that) 2&E 8ERSIS*A/*G)
Fdance>art is my $ay to e+!ress, I $ant to dance one dance>share
art $ith you, right no$ that is my feeling, and $hat I $ant to share
so much. Hust ,1 minutes, then lea"e, I am rela+ing comfortable
guy, I think I can trust you.
F2As long as the body is not saying no, I@/0RE *3E 907*3
A/6 EEE8 SE67%ES3I/@G)
FI ha"e ne"er kised a +++ 2garlic girl, bug), I $ant to
Fshall $e try.. 2gesture>take chin)
Fou ne"er kissed a french guy>+++
Fshall $e try 2gesture, take chin)
FI $ant you
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E;ASI;E A%*I0/.. 2ie, if it is not $orking out, try stuff from
here)
WStatement of Intent > E+!ectations F handling slo$
$omen>indecisi"e $omen>bullshitX
F2*ry to feel u!>E%, but not getting any$here)
F2kink action to be ok due to eni"ornmental factor 2:olgers in *@)
F7sually of course you dont do this, but here in this en"ironment,
$e can rela+, so it is 0E>acce!table
..$hen the chick is doing like 3&se+y9adam, $arm, good E%, but
not much se+ual>re"erse kino going on>E%>%E>a bit se+ual
2legs..etc) touching ma=or resistance>roadblocksX
FRocks and @old story
FSe+ and intimacy is !art of any healthy relationshi!. I e+!ect a
$oman to understand
that and act accordingly, or her e+istance in my life $ill soon
finish>is "ery short> is at risk>$ill soon cease to e+ist.
FI ha"e no intent on being any lady's girlfriend.
F/o good guy is going to $ait around a $oman $ho is indecisi"e,
or doesn't take the chance
$hen it is gi"en to her
FI e+!ect !rogress from meeting to meeting
FI e+!ect that se+>intimacy $ill ha!!en after $e s!end some time
to kno$ each other,
but I don't tolerate indecisi"e $omen.
FI get to kno$ you, you get to kno$ me, and then $e decide to take
a chance to start
a relationshi!. *hat is the $ay it $orks.
FI ha"e no intention to $ait < months $hile you 'get to kno$ me'
before deciding to
start a relationshi!.
F*hat is the same as if I $ere to tell you to ha"e se+ $ith me for <
months so I can
decide if $e ha"e a relationshi!, and then $e can go to
dinner>$alks..etc. of course
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it is ridiculous.. $ell so is the abo"e, and no good man is going to
acce!t that, =ust it is selfish..
FWhen $as last time you had se+( 2note, she might lie in her
ans$er)
FShould =ust say se+ is normal !art of human e+!ression, so need to
acce!t that as 0E
FAnyone $ho doesnn't of course is liar
FI $ant res!ect $hen I am $ith a lady, I $ant her to feel free to
e+!ress herself
com!letely $ith me.
FI $ant you to do that $ith me.
F6o you res!ect me, I $ant you to sho$ that for me, no$ take a
chance
-It is normal for people to enjoy touching, holding, EC, as it is
also communication.
-If you try, I am confident that you will enjoy a better time,
and it will make me feel more relaxed too that you are having
a good time.
-Of course you want excitement, dont you. So if you relax, I
can help you feel more excited and relaxed
-When you take a chance, usually good things happen
FAI mo"ie !attern.. like fore"er and fore"er,
-You will get old soon, lose youth soon forever and ever, so
must take chances now, while still can, or they are gone
forever.. you are old, youth is gone
-I don't need any girl who wants to treat me as their girlfriend.
I expect more respect than that
F*% girl $ho didn't understand $hy I ble$ her out for being selfish
FLdn HFgirls 2both of them) $ho I ble$ out for being selfish
FI am "aluable too, can get attention from lots of girls.. so I ha"e
e+!ectations.
FE%, holding is natural communication, and I e+!ect it, or it means
our communication is
not honest, and not com!lete.
FI don't meet girls again $ho are cold, or don't sho$ me that they
a!!reciate being around
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me $ith their $armth 2and not =ust talk), =ust I feel cold
FI am not @:'s to $omen, I don't $aste my time $ith that
FStory of "irgin, and try to fuck her, or dum! her for
disres!ect>selfishness X
WRandom thingsX
2$hat do to if she starts to run a$ay>ice u!>freak out)
Fbut your doing nothing(
FI am =ust trying to talk to you, is that so cra4y(
F8lease =ust a moment
Fno, I dont gi"e emails>!hone numbers, $e ha"e to meet no$, I
dont $ant a relationshi!
$ith my ans$ering machine>comseduceter
Fstay a moment, dont run a$ay
F$e dont ha"e lie face
Flets =ust try a little
Fsoon finish, then ok
FI $ant to sit at the counter, I dont like tables, it reminds me of
'inter"ie$ style', but I $ant rela+ed $ay
c: this is too fast
FI can $ait for you, but I cannot commit to only you $hile I $ait
2Red %herry Sock &abe close)
FSo if you $ant me to $ait for you, you need to sho$ me some
commitment today, then I can $ait for you 2$orks great $hen you
are going on a real 2or imaginary) tri!).
F*urn a$ay $ith your back, and your drink
FDI am going homeD, gesture to lea"e 2=okingly)
c: I ha"e a &:
Fthat's greatG
Fits really great $hen your $ith a guy $ho $ill really listen and
a!!reciate your
o!inions.
FWhen are you !lanning to get married(
c: 2She changed sub=ect after an errrr.)
F=ust once, "ery easy, ok( lets go(
c: 2cant decide face)
c: no
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F2gently takes her by the shoulder)
c: 2cant decide face)
F2nudge her) lets goG
F2chick goes $ith them)
Fnot here
c: you're here =ust to !ick u! $omen, arent you..
F'to tell you the truth, yes, i did go there to meet !eo!le but a
!retty face
Fisn't enough for me....I actually ha"e three Aualities I look for in
a $oman.....'
F2W3A9, no$ $ere both talking about relationshi!s and $hat
$e both look for in a
guy>girl)
Fno obligation
F$e go to to! of building>my !lace>back there $here no one see
Feasy to go( '5 minutes
F=ust a moment, dont go
F=ust - seconds > 5 minutes
F!lease sto!
F!lease talk to me
Fbut your doing nothing(
Fonly short time, e"en lea"e early, still I buy you coffee
F$hat time(
Fa bit early isnt it(
FTif chick gi"es e+cuse you cant e"ade, re!eat unrelated reAuest
2state break), or change to!ic>ask Auestion, or say 'its my feeling
++++ to yyyy'
c: ok, =ust a bit
F=ust a moment ' minute
F=ust one minute
F=ust a short bit of time, then finish
FI $ont eat you
Fno one $ill kno$
Fe"eryone needs an oasis
Flots of girls !ay attention to me, but I am e+!ensi"e guy, so I
e+!ect more than
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=ust a cute girl.. that is so em!ty
Fbut until no$, you did>$e talked alot, so =ust a little bit more,
$iden a =ust bit more
todays day>e+!erience
F=ust a little bit you ha"e to do
Fyes, only a little bit
Fif yada, its ok, that can ha!!en, done $orry, you dont need to stay
F2she doesnt decide, they take her)
F2on $ay to studio, re!eating) =ust a moment, short time
c: I'm engaged to someone right no$>ha"e &:
Fes, I'm seeing someone else as $ell 2used on !sychicbabeG)
FWhen $ill you marry him(
F2talk>inAuire about troubles in relationshi!)
Fthat's ok, I don't re!lace boyfriends, but they can be forgotten
$hen they're not around
F2I !ace) I say 'you can't belie"e I'm saying these $ords to you,
can you'
FShe agrees and says 'eah, you're direct and you don't $aste
time do you(' 2no$ she's
getting calmer)
F*hen I go into 'es, you're right. &c most guys in here $ill fool
around and $aste
Ftime and chicken out. I don't ha"e time for that and I don't fool
about, I'm not
Finterested. &esides, most guys in here 2as I gesture a$ay) sim!ly
don't ha"e the balls
Fto say $hat I say' she nods.
%:'I'm sorta seeing someone' e+cuse, so I used
F'hmm, you sound enthusiastic about him'.
F=ust a cou!le minutes chat.. can be rela+ing>raku, its fun to talkG.. I
am not going
to eat youG 2$ell, I $ill..but dont tell herG hahahaG)
FHust I am like child sometimes, but it is nice.
WLast gas!, nothing is really $orking, but she is $arm, but not
se+ual at all.X
FSituation: $arm, but $alls for se+ual, still $ants to see you.
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FAfter all the abo"e stuf has been tried, attem!t the follo$ing
F$ork talk
FI got nan!a from salsa club 2social !roof>transition), she $anted
massage, or maybe
=ust se+, but then after it is boring>$asting time, but sometimes
ok de!ending my
mood.
Fbut $hat is im!ortant is ho$ you treat each other after se+
Ffailed E%...
Fyou might take a chance, you see me often, but e+!and your
$orld..
F6emonstrate !ersonality 2co!many fight, ne$ =ob>a!!t>success
in sa"ing cor! money)
FE+citement as teenager
FEino>hold hand 2as teenager)
F9assage talk
FE%, try( 2as teenager)
F3& !hysics close 2change "enue, like e+citment)
Fha!!y to =ust be other $oman.. you are free, try something ne$
Fs!end !ri"ate time together
Fcastle fairytale
Fsucceed or bail
!layed either..
For =ust I get another $oman
Fchick $ho al$ays tried to change date 2london =Fgirl), at last
minute, so I
dum!ed her.. lots of !retty girls around, I res!ect myself.
follo$ natural $ay, and then it is 0E e"en if you do.. no
artificial limits
FI like a $oman $ho>it is ob"ious $omen $ant to be seduced
FI like a $oman $ho>it is ob"ious $omen $ant
ad"enture>e+citment
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FI like a $oman $ho>it is ob"ious $omen $ant to feel se+y
stress, feel refreshedG
Fcan you do me a fa"or, take a chance $ith me, touch my belly..
change "enue
Fmy e+'s said I $as best guy they e"er met
F$hat you do $hen you meet nice guy
FI gi"e massage, !assion, heat, s!ecial time and connection
direct about seG
F6id you e"er come(
then it
F3& !hysics close 2credit: *SE67%ER)
F$hen $as the last time you got e+cited, tell me about it.D
c: 2descri!tion)
F0f course you ob"iously $ant to be e+cited and that a similar
e+!erience might hG
F2=okingly) I $ould hel!, it $ould be fun for me to try, and that if
I failed, you
could of course trust me to back do$n as I had done so many
times that
night already.
F&ut I am com!letely confident that if you $ould only let me
change the "enue>relG
I $ould e+cite you $ithout a doubt.
FI mean, ho$ am I going to e+cite you in this damn
!layground>coffeesho!>$ithout G hel!
Fou li"e close to here, and if $e $ere at your !lace>if $e try I
could at least
gi"e you a nice massage and try to get you e+cited there.
FAnd that $ould feel good no matter $hat the outcome, right(
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c: yes
Fes, you are right.
F2shut the fuck u!, grab her and take her to your !lace)
F2start massage)
F/o$, to lead to e+itement for both of us I $ould take off your
to! and bra
F2take them off, continue massage, get more se+ual, fuck
Funusual to be comfortable like this..maybe fate(
-dance/art is my way to express, I want to dance one
dance/share art with you, righ!
what I want to share so much. 1ust 20 minutes, then leave, I
am relaxing comfortab!
Random tidbits of insight from the Diary:
*hese are things I learned>disco"ered during my research o"er the
!ast year, $hich I noted.
A $ork in !rogress, 9aniac 3igh
FFRandom:
@irls done $ant the truth. &ecause that $ill destroy the feelings of
connection. Hust like guys don't $ant to hear the truth that a girl
didn't like se+ $ith him 2=ust he $ants it to look like she did, and
he $ants to belie"e that). *his is the same thing energi4er babe told
me once.
FF%oncentration is t$o ty!es: de!th 2ie. !rogramming>math) and
breadth 2ie, sales>seduce). S$itching from one to the other 2for
me) takes time, and is not instant at all, harming my SE67%E
skills.. /eed to $ork on this...
FFEi!! ti!:
*ry to rub a chick's ass. If she resists 2$ith her hand), then =ust take
her hand and hold it. *hat $ill calm her do$n, as $ell as gi"e you
a good esca!e from the failed handrub.
FFRandom thoughts
F&ecause $omen often think emotionally, they $ill rarely be
"isionary, or ha"e long term thought out !lans. *hey $ill act on
$hat they $ant>feel like right no$. *his is good for guys though,
because if you maniseducelate a $omen surroundings, or get her
B1
to inter!ret them a ne$ $ay, then it is much more likely to get her
to do $hat you $ant, right no$.
FFSe+ is like a roller coaster
FAt first you $ant to really ride the coaster, $hen you ne"er rode
one before.
F*hen you $ant to ride that coaster o"er and o"er again
F*hen you start to get bored of that coaster
F&ut $hen you see a ne$ coaster, then you really $ant to ride that
one
F*hen you start to get bored of roller coasters and only $ant to ride
if
one looks !articularly interesting, or if you hadn't ridden one in a
$hile.
FF7nderstanding girls o!inions about se+ and $hen>ho$>$hy they
$ant it.
Se+ for $omen is like dinners in romantic restaurants for guys.
Ie:
W09E/:
FWomen only $ant se+ $ith guys they like
F3a"ing se+ $ith guys they don't like is boring. Sho!!ing is more
fun.
FWomen like se+
FWomen like se+ for different reason than guys do 2it is
!rogrammed in their brains differently)
FWomen like se+ as a $ay to connect and get closer to the guy
$hereas guys like se+ because it feels good. Who the girl is is not
necessarily so im!ortant.
F@uys can ha"e se+ $ith girls they dont like much because the se+
feels good.
FSome fe$ $omen though are mis$ired, and =ust like !lain se+ like
guys do.
6oesn't make sense does it( /o$ look at it this $ay...
@7S:
F@uys only $ant to ha"e nice dinners $ith girls they really like.
F3a"ing nice dinners $ith girls they don't like is boring. Reading
!ornos is more fun.
B'
F@uys like nice dinners
F@uys like nice dinners for different reasons than girls do 2it is
!rogrammed
in their brains that $ay).
F@uys like dinners as a $ay to get closer to the girl, $here as girls
like
dinners for tasty food and atmos!here that feels good. Who the
guy is is
not necessarily so im!ortant..
F@irls can ha"e dinners $ith guys they dont like much because the
food tastes
good and atmos!here feels good.
FSome 2usually fat) guys can ha"e nice dinners $ith girls they don't
care about
=ust because the food tastes good.
FSome fe$ guys are mis$ired and =ust like nice dinners the same
$ay girls do.
...no$ does it make sense( *he abo"e e+am!le makes it "ery clear,
so no$
you kno$ $hat you are dealing $ith.
3o$ $omen random nonsensical talk $orks 2so you can imitate
it>use it $hen you are $ith $omen)
F*hey $ill usualy talk about something that ha!!ened, or they see,
and ho$ it makes them feel. *hen they $ill s$itch to a different
to!ic that has one as!ect relating to the !re"ious to!ic, and re!eat
the cycle again. *his can 2and usually doesG) go on for hours.
Ie: F*oday $hen I $as going to the store, I sa$ the most tasty ice
cream.
FIt $as so big. can you belie"e that( It is like that one $e had
together
last summer $hen $e $ent to the Auilt sho$ together.
F0h do you remember that yelo$ and blue Auilt $ith the bear
!attern on
it( It $as so beautiful $asn't it. &ut at N,11, it $as too e+!ensi"e.
FIt is like that other bear !attern that $e sa$ last $eek $hen $e
$ent to &loomingdales. Wasn't that a great sale( *here $as so
B,
much on s!ecial deals. I bought so much. Remember that nice
"ase that $e sa$ on 5:, it is so !retty, I seducet it in the entrance
u!stairs near the bathroom. It matches so $ell $ith the green
car!et, don't you think. And then =ust I need another !icture
abo"e the $all across from there... blah blah...blah
..blah... 2it $ill ne"er end...)
*his is random chick babble. It is about nothing, going in no
direction, $ith no goal or seducer!ose, and randomly rambling
about absolutely nothing useful or im!ortant. &ut see that if
follo$s the structure abo"e that I stated. Something
ha!!ened>seenFF:eeling about itFF/e+t someho$ related to!icFF
2re!eat).
Random thoughts on o!eners:
FDHust go out and SE67%ED is a nice mantra.. but bet$een each
SE67%E session, you must e"aluate $hat $ent right>$rong, and
ho$ you $ould im!ro"e things for the ne+t time. *3is is the basic
engineering method, and it $orks for SE67%E too 2other$ise,
you $ill =ust re!eat failure).
FIn my case, I suck2ed) at o!eners,so finally, $hat I needed to do
is identify each ty!e of o!ener situation, and then scri!t the
o!eners and transitions ahead of time, so that I $ould not stall
$hen doing the o!ener in real life.
F:0r those of us $ho are not good 'on our feet', this is the only
!ractical $ay to get o!eners to $ork. After a!!lying things the
abo"e $ay 2trying, analysing, scri!ting, trying, analysing,
scri!ting), e"entually, you $ill ha"e encountered enough
situations 2and analysed>field tested $orking scri!ts for them) that
the SE67%Es in the field $ill start to $ork.
FF9adam&abe !lan tonight
F6emonstrate !ersonality 2com!any fight, ne$ =ob>a!!t>success in
sa"ing cor! money)
FE+citement as teenager
FEino>hold hand 2as teenager)
F9assage talk
FE%, try( 2as teenager)
F3& !hysics close 2change "enue, like e+citment)
B-
Fha!!y to =ust be other $oman.. you are free, try something ne$
Fs!end !ri"ate time together
Fcastle fairytale
Fsucceed or bail
!layed either..
follo$ natural $ay, and then it is 0E e"en if you do.. no artificial
limits
Fit is ob"ious $omen $ant to be seduced
Fit is ob"ious $omen $ant ad"enture>e+citment
Fit is ob"ious $omen $ant to feel se+y
stress, feel refreshed 2by se+)
Fcan you do me a fa"or, take a chance $ith me, touch my belly..
change "enue
Fmy e+'s said I $as best guy they e"er met
F$hat you do $hen you meet nice guy
FI gi"e massage, !assion, heat, s!ecial time and connection
direct about se+X
F6id you e"er come(
then it
F3& !hysics close
FF@0* 9A6A9&A&EG
Fshe $as "ery $arm this time, maybe due to body biorhytms..
com!ared to last , times, it $as clear she $as hot and $anted se+..
timing of dates, try each one on different timing of month, to try to
hit her 'hot days'
B.
FWay I did
Fstory about nan!a I got from salsa club last night
Fshe $anted masage
F$hat is im!ortant is ho$ you treat each other after se+
Fshe ga"e clue at '':-1 said she missed train 2not trueG)
F*his $as clue that fuck may ha!!en tonight
Fshe asked me to stay $ith her till 5am
Fsaid lets go to ne+t i4akaya
Fshe $as "ery $arm this time, com!ared to last.. re"erse kino $as
good>great took my hand often..etc
F=oked 'maybe you are mr. !erfect' se"eral times. *his is good, it is
one of her lean $ords.
FE% first failed 2again), but this time she said 'not in i4akaya'
rather than stone cold 'no'. *his $as good, means that outside,
!robably she $ill E% 2kiss close)
Ffollo$ed !lan 2belo$) $hich I ty!ed u!
F$e al$ays meet and are "ery rela+ed, it is strange, $hy.. should
let gro$ naturally.
F=ust make effort to e+!and a bit
F=okes about her co$orkers, ho$ they dont understand $omen
Fthat other office rel'n 2material girl and tall guy) 2bet beer>$ine
ho$ short it $ill
last)
Fno talk about 3&Ilike3 this time
Fafter second beer, lets go out for $alk 2she $as falling aslee!)
Fget to outside in dark area, and I sto! her $alking after lead in do
you comfortable>like me..
Ftold her do you like me.. take a chance $ith me, and e+!ress
yourself as all $ays... got the E%
FE% in i4akaya ,, bad face reaction
Fthat is not good.. she $orries about coF$orker
Fim!ortant is res!ect, and =ust !ay attention $hen you are $ith me
Fbefore, a bit of talk about her other guy, and I =oke ho$ she is
$oman #,
B5
Fgot to ri"er, E%'s her on bench, more E%..$as good, mo"e to
ni!!les, she gets "ery e+cited>"ery reacted... "ery good.. I sto! and
take her home
FS3e asks $here $e a re going, bu I ignore and tell her ho$ the
$eather is nice tonight. S3e doesnt ask again, and is "ery rela+ed.
Fafter se+, tells me to forget about other guys
Fask her $hy she likes me she says 'I dotn kno$'
Fher body is like gymnast, and she kno$s ho$ to use it...
a$esomeG
FF2goFkon chick)
As e+!ected, this chick $as an easy lay. Eind of soso fuck, but
"ery se+y body though, her clothes didnt do her =ustice at all.
She $as much older than I thought though, -<.. I had figured ,5, or
,<..
body like a babe..
Signs that this $ould be an easy one:..almost te+tbook 2in fact,
less than that..it $as no effort at all)
FShe re!lied my mail and made date right a$ay
FShe $arned me that she might be late, but !lease $ait 2but she
$as on time).
FWhen I had to reschedule, she re!lied right a$ay $ith a ne$ date,
and no hassle.
FWhen I met her, re"erse kino $as "ery strong, right from the start
as soon as $e sat do$n. E% $as strong, and she sat "ery close to
me, almost against me right a$ay.
F/o hassle for beer, lots of smiles from start.
FShe remembered I li"ed in nakame, and remarked that is ho$ far
from here by $alking 2good sign, sounds like she is thinking if she
can come o"er tonight).
FI start running usual shit from the n98, $orking great..I lo"e that
!lan.
FI asked her if she is in a rush tonight, but she said there $as $ork
to do, but 'nantokanaru' 2$hate"er ha!!ens is $hate"er ha!!ens).
*his $as a ;ER @006 sign. *his means she is ke!t the
!ossibilities o!en for anything 2ie. se+) to ha!!en.
B<
FI ran comfortable>communication at many le"els, she agreed
e"erything.
F%E gag $as fine 2first time)
FSecond attem!ts at %E $as 2outside !lease she said). *hat $as a
good sign.
FLater I did return from bathroom gag, and asked if she $ant to E%
nice guy, she said 2outside !lease) Wthis means ESX
FI asked her about communication, and touching is im!ortant, and
she said "ery im!ortant to her e"en though H's often dont like it.
FI could hold hand, and touch her any$here, no !roblem
FRe"erse kino faded as i4akaya $ent on, so I decided to get her out
of there.
FI ask her if she $anted to go for $alk 2yes)
FI ask her to go to I4akaya by ri"er. She is asking again about my
house.
FI am not sure though if it is because she is ner"ous to go there, or
$ants to. 2body language $as not clear here). I decide to get her to
the ri"er and E% her, and then try to get her home.
FI tell her lets $alk first 2no !roblem), I ask her if she likes me, and
other n98 usual lines>/L8, good, I go for the E%, no !roblem.
S3e gets right in there 2though she is lousy kisser).
FI ask her again if she likes me 2yes), more E%..
FS3e $onders about !eo!le around, so I say lets go some$here
more !ri"ate
FI am $alking $ith her to$ard my !lace 2but didnt say this is
$here $e are
going) and she doesnt ask either.
FI tell her I ha"e to $ork tomorro$, so she cannot stay late 2usually
I do it this $ay, so the chick kno$s there is an out if she $ants it),
but
$ould she come o"er for a short time, my house is not far 2$hich
at this
!oint it is not). 3er eyes light u! totally, and she says 'yes'.
FWe get there inside, I E% her 2she $as talking about something
useless, but she Auickly shut u! and kissed), this lead to neck
BB
kissing, hands in tits, off clothes and fuck. *here $as totally /0
RESIS*A/%E any$here in the night.
FShe made it totally easy, $ith not one roadblock or bullshit
any$here along the $ay.
F*urns out under that shitty clothes of hers 2I thought she $as fat,
because her clothes $as so baggyG), she has a really se+y thin
body. It $as tasty, came - times.
FShe likes ro!!ongi for 'dance' only. &ut she $as so easy tonight
that I am not sure I belie"e that 2or that she h=adnt had other gai=in
&:s..like 51 of themG). She $ouldnt ans$er last kiss $ith other guy
either. *otal !laygirl I think...
FShe is often lonly cu4 her mom died B years ago. 3ad some
8hili!ino english
teacher $ho $as also doing her it sounds like..
FF
3ere is a !roof that has eluded many men throughout their life
time.
Eee! in mind this !roof looks much better if you can actually use
the sAuare root symbol
*he !roblem:
8ro"e that $omen are all e"il.
2With $ritten !roof, men don't ha"e to $orry about $omen
arguing this fact anymore ...
=ust sho$ them the !a!er. *his $ill end debates that ha"e been
going on for centuries)
*he !roof:
@i"en that:
S *ime K money 2$e all kno$ this)
S Women K time S money 2another $ell kno$n fact)
S 9oney K sArt2e"il) 2after all, money is the root of all e"il)
8roceede $ith the !roof:
'. Women K money S money 2substitution)
,. Women K money[, 2restating #')
-. Women K 2 sArt2e"il) )[, 2substitution)
.. Women K e"il
5. L.E.6.
B?
FF@ood o!ener strategy, Lager's friend:
*he idea is to make an aggressi"e statement, but then follo$ it u!
$ith a "eryG
*hat $ill soften it, and allo$ you to !robe more aggressi"ely, than
if you hadG
comment $ithout the follo$u! Auestion. %on"ersation should
al$ays be that $ay,G
initially.
ie:
FWchick $ith belly e+!osed shirtX *hat is a nice belly 2"ery
aggressi"e)
F6o you e+ercise>go to the gym..>ho$ long(
F*hat is a "ery se+y outfit
FWhere do you usually buy your clothes>$hat stores do you usually
sho!(
FFRandom notes:
FRemember a girl needs you =ust as must for her ha!!iness as you
need her for
yours.
F9ost $omen $ant se+ 2at least as !art of) an e+!ression of
connection to
the man. It is that sense of dee! and close connection that $omen
cra"e.
A man $ants a se+y body for attracti"eness of se+, but a $oman
$ants connection
and closeness. Sometimes $omen fuck as a $ay to a"oid feeling
lonely.
F0nly once a month does a girl $ant se+ for !leasure>horniness.
*hen $hen she
fucks she $ill 2sometimes) link back the other $ay, and 'become'
connected
to you.
FFrandom stuff
It is as riduculous for you to tell me that there $ill ber Sno se+S as
it
BC
is for me to tell you that there S$ill beS se+... =ust you ha"e to
follo$
natural $ay.. or there is no !oint to meet each other if you cannot
follo$
$hate"er you feel is the right $ay at the right !ace naturally..
FFI :ucked 'coccoy&abe'GG 2Starbucks SE67%E FF Lay).. a su!er
Shibuya store clerk 3&
Reco"ered the fucku! from last time... ne+t time though..
SE67%ES3 for a girl to come o"er. *his time it $as ok, but it
$ont al$ays be...
0!ener $as to ask her her email. She is natural girl. 3as &:, asked
me if it ok 2I said
0E).
S3e said I $as nice. Eino $as "ery good and close right from
beginning, she $ould be close
*o me, hand close and easy to get... totally different from
9adambabe.
Lesson from this is chick selection.. it is im!ortant to select the
chick>screen them, and ditch the cold ones after ' 98 run. *his
chick $as "ery easy to get once you got her to rela+, =ust running
normal 98 stuff.
She liked se+, and also hel!ed by asking if my house $as
close..etc. E% $as "ery good, and So $as kissing.. re"erse kino
$as also "ery good, almost from the start. She $as ' hr late, and
then late again '5 minutes, but it $as 0E, $hen she sho$ed u!,
and had some beer, she $as $arm.
She $orks in Ea$asaki, and $ants to stay on nights of $ork 2e"en
late..)
Lesson:
Screen and change $omen... some $omen are unfuckable>don't
like se+... @E* /EW W09E/..there are lots of easy $omen out
there, don't $aste time>get hung u! on ones that are ice cold..
Hust mo"e on.. *here are lots of $omen $ho $ill gi"e kino right
a$ay, like se+ and are easy fucks... dont $aste time $ith the ones
$ith mental !roblems and hangu!s...=ust mo"e on.. they are out
there and easy to find..
?1
0ther interesting things I learned from her:
FShe said she has a &: 2seems it is no !roblem for her to fuck me
though..)
FShe asked me if that is a !roblem
FI re!lied, no not right no$ 2$hich is correct I think, if you say
yes, then she $ont come back maybe, and if I say no, she might
think I donJt care about her at all, and not come back, so my
ans$er, in the middle, is fine and reflects the situation 0E).
*hings $hich she 6I6/* do 2unlike other $omen in $hich
SE67%Es fail:
Fsuggest a !lace to eat
Fnurse the drink>food
F!lay $ith her !hone $hen I am around
Fsuggest ho$ $e dont kno$ each other>are friends>I ha"e a &:>I
li"e far
FIn fact, she didnt say a single negati"e the entire night, and /0
e"asi"e action $as reAuired at all for anything
Flean a$ay from me 2in fact, she $as "ery touchy feely RI@3*
:R09 *3E S*AR*)
Fno changing sub=ect to $ork and other shit $ithout me leading
Fno selfishness>.bad attitude $hatsoe"er... =ust clear smiling clear
sailing
Fno bullshit about anything.. totally game on, $ith re"erse kino and
easy E%s
2though at first, she failed first %E.. but =ust tried again..)
Fasked if she could smoke... totally courteous.. no &S
Fno saying she has to $ork>go>slee!>is tired today
FE% $as good and strong
F;ery "ery easy to get laughing>smiling
Fne"er looked bored
F*his lay $as "ery much like 3&6anceStar last time... ... no &S,
no e"asi"es
Fher best friend is a guy 2I bet he ne"er fucked her either.... or
maybe
its her &:()
Fshe likes !eo!le $ho like drinking
?'
Foften our hands brushed.. sometimes she took a$ay hand, but
brushed it
back soon... later in e"ening, her hands on my leg
FAll I had to do $as transition from fluff about her =ob>$hat she
did today>being tired by $orking to my =ob>$hat I did today, to
ho$ it $as nice to meet last time, and could feel
comfortable>rela+ed to ho$ it is im!ortant to be around rela+ed
!eo!le
F$hat kind of friends you ha"e 2!ositi"e()
Fare you lo"e yourself 2yes she does)
F$hy you like me 2!ositi"e>comfortable)
Fcom!any fight story, ho$ I felt sorry for others, and they follo$
me
F=oke, handsome guy ne+t to you 2E%)
FFRandom notes:
FWomen and monthly !eriods.. I think this is significant. 0n one
day, a chick $ill be horny like a guy, on other days, ice cold.
@oogle !osts by $omen concur. *his means that you $ant to
screen through lots of $omen, and find the good kino>horny ones...
A/6 you $ant to isolate them *3A* /I@3*, or $ithin a day or a
cou!le $hile she is still in her horny !eriod. If you miss it, you $ill
meet her again, and D$onderD $hy she is so icy.
FFRandom notes:
F:or kino, do arm kino, and if reaction good, mo"e to the leg. If not
good, then stay off the leg 2don't letch). If not good, then use
e"asi"e manue"ers:
Funion story
Fcan choose $omen
Fe+!ect $omen to mo"e>follo$>take chance they are gi"en
FRZ@
Fne$ se+ !atterns
FFWomen ha"e horny>non horny times.. so $hen seeing them,
remember it may take , or - chances to nail her, this is $hy.. =ust
try to see her once a $eek, and you $ill hit it..
FF6iary notes:
?,
F- sec rule, but $hen ine+!erienced, stay a$ay from target, think
o!ener, then a!!roach $ith - sec.. 2if you are not e+!erienced at
o!ener, and you -sec, =ust you $ill free4e.. so at first, this $ay is
better)
FAfter each outing, $rite do$n each chance you had $ith chick,
and if you couldnJt think out ho$ to o!en then, think after$ards,
ho$ you $ould ha"e o!ened her and $ritedo$n for ne+t time 2it is
a learning !rocess)
F6o not be tired.. be totally $ell rested.
F3a"e goal 2ie. to get this chick to coffee no$, or to meet $ith you
later today>this $eek)
FR.3. $ould only go after singles, ne"er ,,- sets
FWhen fear, remember
F*his is a research !ro=ect
F%rash the first ,, then see ho$ it is
F&e $ell rested
F&e rehearsed
FWay to o"ercome fear is to =ust do it alot 2from usenet), so let
today be a fucku!
F=ust try to e+ecute your !lan.. o"er and o"er
F&ring em!ty bottle to !our the tea in $hen you go from !lace to
!lace during SE67%E
!ractice
F&ring music
FFRandom thoughts:
F2remember not to do anything that makes the chick Sacti"ely
decide !roacti"elyS or lose face).... because she $ont do itG 2ie. if
you ask me, you can come o"er..
...e"en if she $ants to, she $ont...e"erG)
F9ore chick $arning signs:
F%hick $ho asks you if you $ant a drink
F2she $ill !iggy back her order on yours K you !ay)
F%hick asks if she can order a drink F2Kyou $ill !ay for it)
F%an I borro$ money 2Kand then disa!!ear ne"er to be seen
again, or disa!!ear before !aytime)
FSays she is tired 2right from the outset)
?-
F0nly $ants a tea 2after starting $ith alcohol)
FA"oid meeting her friends 2e"er), that is a glare 2she $ill see you
outside, $ith another girl) o!!ortunity..bad
FF%lues that a SE67%E is going $rong, that might not be ob"ious
to beginners:
F%hick asks to bring her friend2s)
;ery bad: it means that she either:
F6oesn't trust you enough alone
F6oesn't trust $here you asked to meet her
F6oesn't "alue you as a guy 2maybe she $ants =ust a free dinner
for you and her friend and is $illing to risk losing you to get the
free dinner for her and her friend)
FIs =ust selfish and has no idea ho$ a SE67%E is su!!osed to
$ork Z $hat the lady is su!!osed to do
*reatment>Antidote:
F*ell her that you $ant to find out about her $ithout distraction,
and that she can in"ite her friends the ne+t time maybe, or if she
really $ants to see her friends, that you can meet her some other
time in a fe$ $eeks maybe $hen she is less busy
F%hick =ust sho$s u!, $ith an unin"ited friend
;ery bad: all of the abo"e, !lus:
Fshe is totally selfish, and socially retarded
Fabsolutely doesn't care about you at all as a guy..you are a $allet..
or !ri4e to use to sho$ off>sho$ tricks to her friends
*reatment>Antidote:
F&AIL ASA8 before she orders anything 2she $ill bail at cashier
time, or 'not ha"e any money')GG :eign sickness and go home
2any$ays, if she already brought the friend, there is S/0S chance
for you to lay her any$ays, no$ or e"er as long as you tolerate
this bullshit from her)
F%hick talks about e+F&:s
FShe $ants a !sychologist, not a &:
*reatment>Antidote:
F*ell her that you $ant to kno$ about her, and not her !roblems
FFLSE and matching a chick's e+!ectations.
?.
It is =ust as bad to tell an LSE chick $ho is cute that she is cute, as
it is to tell an 7@ that she is an 7@. &etter to say 'ganbatteG When
she critici4es herself, or 'I see'. &ecause if you go against her self
image, she $ill trust you less, and get more distant for you. es,
this is totally counter intuiti"e, but.. it is the $ay $omen $ork, so
you ha"e to do it. If a chick truly thinks she is shit, then don't argue
$ith her about it, it is a losing !ro!osition. *ell her to follo$ you,
is the solution to e"erything.
FF6oing a SE67%E in class>circle
FWhat are you doing tomorro$>ne+t 9onday( 2Kgo for close
/0W, no !hone>mail shit)
FI $ant to talk $ith you more, $hat day is free for you
F+++ time>!lace
FSee you then.
*his is much better than e+changing !hone #>email and trying to
set it u! later 2blurry chances get massi"e if you take the latter
route). @o for the meet RI@3* *3ERE, or arrange RI@3*
*3ERE. In !ractice, I found success rate far higher this $ay.
Waiting for email, chick $ill not res!ond, if it reAuires !ressure or
action. 8hone.. too much calling at bad times
2/% chick, $hile I am in 9c6 line, and not sure $ho it is
callingG)
FF@etting '!rimed' in a ne$ social grou!>situation>!eo!le you $ant
to talk to, but no introduction
FWalk by a cou!le times, make E%>$a"e>blink>big eyes, kee!
going $alking
FWalk again, oh, there you are again, then do regular o!eners
*his is "ery natural, and $ill $ork. Also $orks in grou!s, to get
ra!!ort>'fan club' $ith e"eryone.
FF*o SE67%E a check in a $eekly dance class, or regular occuring
club e"ent:
Say 'I don't come here "ery often>I need to go soon>$e don't get
much of a chance to talk here', lets meet this *uesday>before the
class ne+t $eek> after the class ne+t $eek 2not as good, friends
may sho$ u!).
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FFWhen in a bar and you $ant to SE67%E a chick. *here are ,
choices only..
FEither %E and E% her there right in the bar
F0r casually say you are hot>$ant food>$ant to go for a break>fresh
air, $ont you come $ith me a fe$ minutes.
F*here are no other choices really. 8hone #s suck.
F0ther choice is 'after 2ne+t) lesson>dance, lets meet at u!stairs
seduceb ..etc for a break>beer
--More on women not logical..( 02 brains theory)
&ecause $omen are follo$ing feelings rather than logic, they $ill
do many un!redictable things if you are trying to analyse them
from a logical !ers!ecti"e 2hint: it $on't $orkG).
Women 2$ill for the most !art), do $hat 'feels nice' and a"oid $hat
'feels bad' 2totally irres!ecti"e of $hether doing that or not is in
their rational best interest or not). *his e+!lains $hy girls go for
'bad boys' like abusi"e armed felons $ith mile long criminal
con"ictions $hile shunning the guys $ho $ould take good care of
them and !ro"ide them
2until they are old, $ant money>security or $orry about getting
married).
/o$ you may think this is bad, but it is not, because once you
kno$ that this is ha!!ening, then a chick ScanS be analysed
logically, and your SE67%E !lan ad=usted for this. A nice guy can
set e"erything on $hat is 'feeling good' 2rather than $hat is the
'right $ay', $hich to a chick is Sirrela"entS any$ays).
*hat is $hat the 9aniac 8lan basically does, it gears e"erything
on the $omen feeling, and $hat feels 'natural', and links that to
action.
*his means that a chick may $ant to see you 2but feel rushed),
kno$ she has only ' chance, but then blo$ it. *hen she $ill $ant
to see you again, but then $on't make any o!ening 2that reAuires
logical>strategic thinking, $hich $omen cannot do) to allo$ you to
try again and get her out 2and she $ont ask you either..that reAuires
courage, $hich $omen don't ha"e).
Rather she $ill =ust stay at home and mo!e $hy there are no good
guys 2or $hy you didn't go out $ith her).... chick logic, fuck...
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As an aside, this also e+!lains $hy $omen tend do make such
cra!!y managers in the business $orld 2if you are a student.. =ust
trust me,
Fyou $ill find out in time ho$ this is true, in s!ite of all the
femina4i bullshit that is fed in colleges these days). *here is 2"ery
little) long term logical thinking going on, and $hate"er of it there
is, often it is su!erceded by decisions based on feelings 2$hich not
sur!risingly, like the e+am!le abo"e, tend to be the $rong ones).
*hat reason 2more than any other imaginary ones they try to feed
you as e+cuses in college), is $hy the 'glass ceiling' e+ists.
--Chick logic and the 2 brains theory
It is entirely rational 2to a chick), to tell that chick 'lets be good
friends' and then gi"e her a dee! E%. Lots of $omen do this 2after
the E% set u! is done though of course). /o$ this is totally
illogical and inconsistant to any rational thinking guy, but it does
make sense
if you look at it as follo$ing:
Women in their heads ha"e , brains. 0ne of them is the 'guard'.
It is the one that says '$e are =ust friends' or 'this is too fast' or 'I
=ust $ant to talk today'. *hat brain =ust talks. :or the most !art, you
can ignore $hat a 'talking' brain is saying. *he other brain is
'behind' the talking brain. *his one controls body mo"ements, kino,
body language, eye contact. *his is the brain you $ant to reach,
and is the brain that $ill take o"er once se+ starts 2the talking brain
$ill shut u! at this !oint).
*his may sound nutty, 2and it does to be), SbutS.. I* IS
A&S0L7*EL *R7E, and e+!erienced SE67%ERs $ill tell you
it is as $ell. If you look at $omen this $ay $ith regard to $hat
ha!!ens in a SE67%E, e"erything $ill start to make far more
sense.
:or e+am!le, $hen you say something to a chick, both brains
listen.
:or the most !art, the back 2body language) brain is like a guy
2$ants to get fucked, ha"e $ild se+ and fun), the front 2talking)
brain does not $ant se+, and $ill SsayS $hate"er is necessary to
a"oid it.
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When you talk to a chick, both brains listen. *he front brain $ill
talk $ith the mouth 2usually no, or LH&:), and the back brain may
in S09E %ASES act o!!osite 2I ha"e had cases $here the front
brain $ill say LH&:, $hile the chick 2"ia the back brain) $as
lunging her tits at my face... needless to say, fucking her $as no
!roblem in the end).
So $hen you do SE67%E, ignore $hat the chick says $ith her
$ords, but $atch $hat she does $ith her body>E%. *hat $on't lie.
If Eino>E%> body language is cold.. then ne+t chick. &ut if the
chick is saying 'no', but smiling and hea"y on the kino... you can
usually ignore the 'no' and mo"e for$ard until the body language
gi"es a sto!>slo$ signal 2$hich may ne"er come, and the fuck
ha!!ens in 5 minutes).
Also note that alcohol $ill tend to im!air the front brain, but not
the back one. *his means that $hen the o!!ortunity arises, use
alcohol liberally. 2$arning to those li"ing in the fascist 7SA..
courts make the man res!onsible for gro$n adult $omen's
beha"ior regarding se+ 2fuck kno$s $hy.. more femena4i bullshit I
guess), so if you use alcohol, ha"e her buy her o$n drinks, or go
shag $omen in some other country and let the American $omen
stay single.
:inally, the , brain theory e+!lains $hy $omen re=ect so many
'good guys' and go after the 'bad ones'. *he good ones usually are
listening to the mouth 2WR0/@), $hile the bad ones are $atching
either the body language or at $orst nothing 2and the chick @E*S
07*
0: *3ERE if she is not comfortable). *hat is $hy, esentially, nice
guys finish last.
--Selfishness is ok:- Relating to the abo"e, this is $hy selfishness
2$ith regard to SE67%E), is totally 0E. &ecause 2for reasons
abo"e) the $omen are not beha"ing logically, it means that rational
thoughtful beha"ior 2'ok, $e can $ait ne+t time for se+') $ill
usually get you dum!ed by the
chick, e"en $hen she SrationallyS ob"iously should not.
A!!ear kind and gentle to the chick, but al$ays be thinking of
yourself and your ultimate goal 2to fuck her) before anything else.
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/e"er forget that, or you $ill lose that chick. As soon as you start
being 'res!ectful' and $aiting for her..etc, she $ill dum! you..
2trust me, I ha"e e+!erience at thisG).
--Lying is not at all OK Women $ant the truth and honesty in
your emotions. :irst of all , there is no 'art' to lying. *elling a fib is
easy. 9aking the truth e+citing is art.
Calling femenazi bullshit.
*his is becoming more and more of a !roblem in the 7SA, and
other English s!eaking countries. :emenist 2femina4i, more likely)
bullshit basically 2$hen you get do$n to it), says that $omen $ant
all the rights of a man, $ithout the res!onsibilities. 2ie. they $ant
the same salary, but $ant the man to fi+ the car, go out at night
$hen they hear a noise, take her out to dinner>lead the date, and
$hen things go $rong, they $ant to kee! the kids, house and half
his money, $ithout going out to get a !ro!er =ob for themsel"es, or
let him ha"e the kids if she cannot care for them by her o$n
means).
ou $ill sometimes run into femena4i $omen corru!ted by all
this bullshit. Regrettably, it is less likely that you $ill lay a chick
$ith this disease. *he best $ay to deal $ith it is to !lay on her
lonliness 2because most femena4i's are lonely and "ery unha!!y
inside) and then if she raises the femina4i bullshit, =ust dismiss it
the $ay an al!hamale $ould, and if that doesn't $ork, 2ie. she is
s!e$ing man hating date ra!e bullshit) call her on it directly and
lea"e.
A fe$ $eeks later, tell her that you thought she $as a nice girl and
ho!e things are going $ell and 2if she has no $ay of "erifying),
that you met someone beautiful > dancer > young >se+y) and are
also ho!eful for the future too. /o$ you $on't lay her $ith this,
but she may
lay the ne+t guy, taking him out of circulation as your com!etition.
As $ell, sometimes $hen I did this, . or 5 months later, the chick
$rites back asking if i am still $ith the 'babe' 2correct ans$er is
'yes, but I am not sure if it is $hat e+actly I am looking for.. $hat
are you doing for tea ne+t $eek).
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At this !oint that is all that can be done. As $ell, educate your
fello$ man about ho$ such tremendous bullshit femena4ism is, so
that maybe $e can kill this disease once and for all.
FFRandom notes:
Seducesh closes 2ie. offer s!ecific date) dont $ork by email. 0n
!hone it $orks because she 3AS to say something, so $ill re!ly a
date, but on email, there is no such !ressure because she can =ust
not ans$er 2$hich is $hat they do).
So do the '$hat is your free day' $ay $hen emailing.
FF*o offer a meeting 2in mail, or !hone, or li"e)
F6ont =ust say 'are you free tomorro$'(
FWill result in a +++%hick 2I am sur!rised) res!onse, and nothing
then ha!!ens.
or she is uncomfortable, says she is busy 2or agrees and then
cancels at last
minute).
FRather do like this:
Fou seem like a nice !erson, maybe I can trust you
FI really like talking like this 2about +++), I feel so rela+ed, it is
strange
FI am "ery rela+ed guy, to be calm is "ery im!ortant, I don't like
!ressure,
=ust rela+ guy and natural $ay
FIt is im!ortant to feel "ery calm>comfortable>safe for me, I think I
can
trust you, so I $ould like to meet again, ho$ about +++>$hen are
you free(
FF*est to see $ho is leader in grou!:
F6o you kno$ $here is(
F8icture rest
F3o$ to use !hone 2and see $ho leads the con"o in the -grou!)
F!roblems, go from casual talk, to kanchou>leader, to relationshi!
talk. and do it fast
Flogistics F a"oiding blurry 2=ust say $e meet to talk, dont im!ly
coffee>beer)
Random tidbits of insight and highlights from the Diary:
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*hese are things I learned>disco"ered during my research o"er the
!ast year, $hich I noted.
FF3o$ to become a seducer
FAt first, you $ill suck, totally. 9any !eo!le $ill say, '=ust get field
e+!erience'.*hat may $ork for some !eo!le, but it didn't $ork for
me 2=ust you make the same stalls and fucku!s o"er and o"er, get
more and more ner"ous, and lose your confidence). :or some
!eo!le, =ust 'try' $ill $ork, if you already ha"e some natural skill at
seduction , or social skills. If you dont 2as $as my case), this is
unlikely to $ork.
So $e $ill do this differently. We $ill use the scientific method
of research, to
gain skill to become aseducer . &elo$ are the ste!s:
F:irst you $ill read any and all material on seduction, that means
AS:, !icku!guide, layguide, fs'1'. &efore you can do any
seduction e+!eriments, you must understand the sub=ect matter.
ou $ill de"ote your life to this, all of your free time, to reading
lay>fucku! re!orts, and getting general background that $ill hel!
you to recogni4e situations $hen you run into them.
FAfter that, you $ill go out into the field. At first it is "ery
unlikely that you $ill succeed 2at allG) in the field. :or no$, =ust
s!end ' or , hours a day in the field. ou $ill then use the rest of
the time for analysis of those ' or , hours, and analyse $hat you
did, $hat you did right>$rong, and in that situation 2any situation
you got that day), ho$ you could ha"e done it better. ou $ill
re"ie$ it, and learn it. *hen you $ill go out the ne+t day and
re!eat.
*his is im!ortant, because if you =ust $ork all day>night $ithout
the analysis, you $ont kno$ $hat you are doing right>$rong, and
$ill =ust fail in the same $ay day after day. *he analysis $ill hel!
you fi+ that.
E"entually, as your skills get better 2it $ill take se"eral months of
going out e"ery day), the analysis time $ill get shorter, and actual
field time $ill get longer as basic field issues $ont fuck you u! as
much, and you $ill handle things Auicker and more naturally.
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I $ill $arn you though, it $ill take a long time 2it took me se"eral
years), ho$e"er in my case I $as seriously socially fucked u!
retarded.
--Logic and feelings
FWhen doing seduction , don't e"er do something, and e+ce!t the
chick to do $hat is ob"iously logically in her best interest... S3E
W0/*. Women $ill do $hate"er feels best, irregardless of ho$
good or bad it may be for them. *his is $hy $omen $ill go out
$ith !layboys and not $ith the 'nice guys' $ho $ill be honest $ith
them.
6on't do an action and e+!ect the chick to beha"e 'as one $ould
e+!ect'.... she $ont. ou must seduce the chick Sat all timesS by
her feelings and 'natural $ay'. *hen you can nail her. If you e+!ect
the chick to go out $ith you because you are smart, and can take
care of her 2"ersus =erk) $ho $on't... she $ill !ick the =erk if he is
more fun, or more rela+ing..
She $ill look at the feelings, not the tangibles 2note, this $ill
change $hen she considers to get married though.. then she $ill be
rational for the husband 2$hile still !laying the
&:s on the side, that are more fun).
FFtell se+ stories as last resort before blo$out 2maybe at cofee
sho!(), ie artbabe..
blo$ her out in $ay that you are still "ery attracti"e e"en after
blo$out.
$omen $ill try to take rocks for free 2like guys like to take gold
for free), a la Art&abe, so need to
defend against it, and call the bullshit right a$ay. often must
enforce $ith $omen because they are used to meeting adn talking
and 'go slo$ 2means go not at all) en=oying the free rocks.
es!ecially be $are of $omen to try to lead the date 2$here to go,
$hat to do>meet her friends) early on.. that is a big $arning sign
that it is this kind of chick.
It could be an 3&, or an 7@.. but she is already en=oying the rocks,
and doesnt care about
gi"ing you the gold.. she is already using the rocks you ga"e her,
rather than e+!ecting more.
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women are not logical.. completely emotional.
So they $ill do things that are com!letely self destructi"e, because
they ha"e not thought it through at all. 2ie. a chick $ants you, but
$ill meet you at ?!m, rather than B, and then not ha"e time to
fuck.. or $ill take the rocks, and not reali4e you are about to blo$
her out for doing so, and $ill be 'genuinlyS sur!rised $hen you do,
e"en if you $arned her before... there is no thinking of
conseAuences of actions $hen $omen think, nor thinking of ho$
to connect $here they are>$hat they are doing, to $here they $ant
to be>ho$ they $ant to feel... there is no !lanning.. it is like . year
old child, so you must lead all of it. that is $hy a chick $ho insists
to lead, is trouble... because she $ill ne"er get to $here you $ant
to go... she $ill $ander in random directions 2and $aste all your
time) $hile !laying $ith the rocks she's got, and ne"er go in a
dirction 2unless she randomly gets there) to gi"e the gold... she'll
ne"er reali4e either that failing to do so, means that rocks that she
likes so much, $ill soon disa!!ear as a conseAuence, since that
reAuires logic, and thinking a !rocess through a timeline, and
considering its conseAuences... $omen %A//0* do this.. like
actions to feeling.. 2a ti! to by!ass this), $hat you feel no$..
FF:irst coffeesho! shibuya outing 2solo)
F6id !icture routine 2I am doing !lay, $hich you like)
F*his o!ener $orked "ery $ell, , out of ,, normal !air, and koF
gyaru !air
F/ormal !air $omen $ere already looking at !ictures on the table
e"en before I o!ened my mouth
FShould get samba !icture 2Rio) and normal Em!ire St. &ldg
!icture, and my>Artbabe's art 2$ant B sets of !ictures total).. can
use this to !ace the seduction
F8ictures are good because they let me control stalls, and slo$
do$n seduction !ace so I can think ne+t to!ic. E"entually, I
should be able to do $ithout the !ictures>only talk about her
bag..etc>street seduction but for !ractice at the beginning, $e use
the !ictures
FLater once talking is more natural
FFIdea for ne$ coffeesho! !lan
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F8icture o!ener
FWhy you like !icture( 2' or ,)
FIt is for dance sho$
F/e+t !icture
FI am artist>!hotogra!her
FI took the !ictures
F/% F"sF Rio
Fou e"er go /%
F6o you $ant to go(
F@ai=in friends(
FARt&abe's art
Fou look stylish 2get laugh from her)
FWhat you doing here in Shibuya(
FWhat are you doing after this(
FArtbabe !icture 2or ad"Fromantic !icture)
Fare you ad"enturous or romantic(
F6o you like art(, it is $ay to e+!ress>share natural feeling>each
other
F..regular ne$98 2as much as !ossible today, then close)
--Women and logic
Women are about as logical as ? year goods $hen !lanning
strategy. *his can be good 2because their !lans $ill be easily
ob"ious 2chick: smile.. !lease buy me a beer, kid: smile, !lease buy
me a toy), and easy to s!ot out. 0n the other hand, for the same
reason, they $ill think that these stu!id !lans $ill $ork 2maybe
$ith A:%'s they do), and they $ill try all sorts of stu!id shit like
this, and it $ill =ust !iss you off that they are trying such bone
headed stuff.
FFWomen and reAuests
When a chick already asks you fa"ors>$hat she $ants e"en
&E:0RE she has already gone out $ith you once or t$ice. this is
a "ery "ery bad sign. She is =ust using you for something, and is
not interested in you at all 2if she $as, then she $ouldnt risk losing
you by trying her !etty shit 2ie. I $ant to go eat at this italian
restaurant, or she brings her friends unin"ited, or asks you to get
something for her on the $ay to meet her, or to meet you $hen
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doing her sho!!ing, or something else eAually lame $hich is =ust
disres!ectful to you..)
FF%hick brings her unin"ited friend and says 'she is !retty' so you
$ill like her, so dont $orry.*3is is "ery bad, it means:
Fyour target doesnt see you as a man 2or she $ouldnt risk losing
you to her friend)
Fyour target doesnt really belie"e her friend is that !retty 2so she
$ont be com!etition if she really does like you)
Fyour target is =ust using you to im!ress her friend
Fthese all mean that 07 are not her focus tonight.. you should
call her bullshit immediately, and if that fails 2ie. if she doesnt get
the clue>sto! the bullshit), then
you should bail ASA8 2$hich is $hat I did in the case of that
selfish W.S. Ro!!ongi chick). :or good measure you can send her
a message saying clearly ho$ she fucked u! and ho$ she should
beha"e for the ne+t guy.
FF3&Ass, after I said no, then !o$er balance restored 2ie. she $as
afraid to lose me) and then $ould fuck 2$ell) again.
FF*o do multi!le $omen at once $ithout getting 'stuck' to any of
them: talk about $anting to be comfortable and that you ne"er
kno$ the future. /E;ER !romise relationshi!s 2=ust you $ant to
be comfortable no$, and dont kno$ the future.. follo$ natural, that
is
the right $ay), then she can dream $hat she $ants 2and $ill
continue that), but back in real life, things $ill al$ays stay casual
like they $ere at first, and ne"er get too dee!
FFSee a chick once, maybe t$ice a $eek, if more than that you are
likely to get stuck $ith a too dee! relationshi! $ith her. If you are
not al$ays a"ailable then she $ill be a bit more uneasy, and
beha"e better as a chick and fuck better.
FFSome $omen see se+ and relationshi! as se!arate 2artbabe).
60nt get too dee! $ith these $omen, or im!ly relationshi!, or
they $ill runG
FFou al$ays $ant to be in controlled situation 2ie. $here you can
talk>enter>e+it at $ill $ith any chick. Any situations $hich are not
controllable 2ie. being $ith a chick on a train 2$ho is not target
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you $ant to seducell off of the train), or $ithin lessons, is more
difficult because in the blank time lags, you $ill not look in
control, and =ust look stu!id>not talking. ou $$ant $omen only
memory of you to be $hen you are in control and making her feel
good. ou ne"er $ant her to be dreaming of other things>!eo!le
around you, because of 'do$n>blanktime' like $aiting for trains, in
noisy stations, etc, $here there are interru!tions.
3&Afro, Le4%urious, /urse&abe, Artbabe $ere all seducelled
in '!arty' situations that I could enter>e+it freely. In the case of
3&;am! and Le4%urious, I did not !ay any !articular attention to
them first before talking $ith them first in a !ri"ate
dance2Le4%urios)>beer situation 23&;am!). Women you meet
2and talk to) $ithin a lesson you are "ery unlikely to
make it $ith. &etter to =ust be seen, other$ise ignore them, and
then make the mo"e to get her to some!lace else as soon as you
can, and then ignore her again after the date is made 2or lea"e) if it
is a controlled situation like a lesson or !ractice $here you cannot
control talking $ithout interru!tion, or entries or e+it, $here you
look silly $alking around>$aiting>!ractising.
FF*o get control of reseducetation in grou! setting 2dance grou!,
$ork), so that girls $ill see you as a guy. *he key is to !lay off the
=ealousy of the $omen. So $hat you need to do is get ' chick
interested in you 2con"entionally). *hen use her in front of the
other $omen, so they see>hear she likes you 2e"en if only
casually.. the other $omen $ont kno$ that, and $ill sus!ect the
$orst). *hen =oke $ith the other $omen about being in the
bathroom too long, chatting 2embarrassing thing), or ho$ you
need to be !rotected from other $omen ..etc... ho$ they are
short..etc. *hat $ill soon !lay off on that target, and then you can
use her the same $ay 2along $ith your first one), to finally nab all
the rest, and get them into your !sychological 'harem'.
*he hardest !art is getting the first chick, so try a fe$ 2one at a
time, as it turns out they all talk to each other, so if you do
simultaneously, to go slo$ly $ith each one .)
FF@ood $ay to say 'no', to chick bullshit $ithout it being
conscience
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chick: lets go to this club 2I dont $ant to go to any club, I $ant to
go to a hotel and fuck her), but I cant say 'no' directly, or she'll
insist to go to the club, then fight.. rather, I $antto go to !ark $ith
her, and if she beha"es, take her to hotel and fuck her, or bail... i
dont under any circumstance $ant to go to the club 2ARtbabe).
c: lets go to this club after su!!er
m: its too early, lets go for a $alk instead, I dont $ant to stayu out
too late
2of course, if yu think this through, it means,m there is no $ay
you go to the club.. cu4, it is too early for club, and you are not
staing out late 2unless she dro!s the !antiesLG), so K no club, but
not said directly, so no fight. then if she miss beha"es in the !ark..
say 'sorry, its late as I said, gotta go).
FF*ests for $omen: FSo ho$ do you feel $hen you +++
2kiss>touch>are touched>hold>hug) me( 2this is set u! to do the
ne+t ste! 2kiss, feelu!..etc)
FF;arious 'kino'>body gags you can do 2!art of rela+ the chick),
usually in closed grou! settings. *his gets $omen used to you to
kino and touching, and $ill enable SE67%Es in grou!s 2$orks in
!arty>bar settings) Idea is to get her to be used to you to be touched
2and then use this in front of other girls, to get them hooked on it
too>$anting it too lest they
feel left out)
Fbig eyes and smile
Fhand grabs in the air
Fbig $a"es 2$ith big eyes)
Fbum! her bottom
Feye sAuints
F%E gesture $ith smile
F3ello, my name is +++ 2e"en though she already kno$s you), can
I sit here 2!achi !achi eyes)
F!achi !achi eyes, look at her !lace>drink 2gesture for it).
F0ooh, you are so s$eet 2yosh yosh on head !at)
Fou seem like nice girl, can I sit ne+t to you( 2!achi !achi)
CB
FFIf a chick is not reacting $ell to your SE67%E, it =ust means that
you need to make more effort in the SE67%E 2being nice, !aying
attention and more attracti"e)...
... *0 *3E 0*3ER W09E/ AR07/6 3ERG 2that $ill make
her =ealous, and then you
can go back to her later).
FFA"oid losing face>glare>freakouts:
*he idea is to al$ays test before !rogress, ie kiss first 2then ask to
go for the $alk, not the other $ay around 2if you kissed her once
before), then feel u!, then take her back to your !lace.. that $ay,
there is ne"er a chance for you to lose face..if I ask you to meet
me, do you do that( if I ask you to see me later, do you.. if I ask
you to go for a $alk do you(
ie: $ith 3&ILikeSe+y:
F%E
F6o you like me
FE%
F%ome outside a short time $ith me
F*ake her
FE%
F6o you like me
F:eel her u!
F6o you $ant to s!end time $ith me(
F9eet me at +++ time>!lace
FFE%'ing 3&IlikeSe+y 2again) in Eobe
FAfter you $ant a kiss, it your &day, I see her again in Eobe
FI get kino started 2like before)
FI =oke about that guy $ho likes her
FI ask her if she likes to dance $ith me 2c:yes)
FI ask her if she likes me 2c:yes)
FI gesture a fe$ %E's
FI kam!ai to ne$ year, and debut
FI =oke about se+y girl
FI sit by her =oke 2hello, my name is +++, you look nice can I sit
ne+t to you()
C?
FI hold her chin a fe$ times 2she doesnt recoil) and mo"e close
$hen talking
FI kam!ai to the ne$ year of success, and take her face and E%
FI dance, and try E% at end.. fails, 2$as too sudden)
FW3en she lea"es, I angry to her for not saying good by, she hugs,
and I E% her again.
--Lay report, HBDanceBabe
3ighlights. She came late, but made it easy for me, by still coming,
making an effort to look nice and offering to take a cab to go back
after 2time limit gone). @oing to the other I4akaya near ri"er $as
good, as it got her a$ay more from the station so she $ould be less
likely to change her mind and take the train back. *he ne$ 98
$orked basically as stated.. it $as clock $ork, and the chick didn't
need to say much. We got stuck on 'dance' to!ics
a bit at the start 2and near the end before the close), but I could
s$itch that back to 'understanding !eo!le though dance', and ho$
!eo!le relate to each other. I used counters at both !laces, so kino
$as good.
I got a fe$ %E's 2cheek kiss) $hen I ask her $hat she learned
about me>thought about me, and gestured for %Es after a fe$ 2got
, or - %Es).
*o do the first E%, I said, that you ha"e to follo$ natural !ace,
and !eo!le $ho say 'se+ on date ., kc on date ,', I dont res!ect.
&ecause I $ant them to follo$ $hat is natural, if its faster, ok, or if
its slo$er ok, like if I feel I $ant to touch you, and it is right for
you, then it
is good 2do you like to be touched c:yes), so it is natural, or if $e
$ant to hold hand, =ust do 2c: it is nice too), can you understand 2c:
yes).
She says she liked me, so $as ha!!y to go on this date dateI I
said its not date, =ust natural.. no stress, dont call it a date, that
im!lies checking, thinking, inter"ie$ing... =ust $e are out for beer,
and if $e are =ust friends, that is destiny, then =ust follo$ that, and
if it
CC
is something $armer 2ste! u! kino, and hand holding), and I feel I
$ant to touch you 2touch her face), or kiss, then $e do naturally 2I
gesture a E%, and get it).
ou are nice, it feels nice. *hen each time she says something
nice about me, or I like her, I gesture another E%.. got about < or B.
used fate, ho$ $e see so many things like, it is first time for me to
feel so nautral, comfortable.
*o get her home to my !lace, I said I really $ant to dance $ith
you, that is $ay I can communicate, in a different $ay besides talk
and touch.
6ance is human e+!ression of music, so I $ant to share it together.
7sing 'lets dance for ,1 minutes before you lea"e' $as also a
really good mo"e. At home, she $as still a bit uneasy, so I did a
dance, then E%, then hug, and against the $all a bit, $ith more
kissing, then another dance 2$ash rince re!eat), till she $ould be
more calm > easy to hold me>rela+ed. then I did long E%, 2no
tonguedo$n, she says she is bad at kissing.. I told her it is like
dance: a form of communication, so techniAue and "aration is not
im!ortant, it is $hat you communicate $hich is im!ortant and the
feeling tied to it).
So that is all that matters 2about kiss). *hen longer E%, and I $ent
to the neck 2got a bit stuck on li!s). this got reaction, and I could
outside feel u! body>tits, this $ent for a bit. 0nce she $as
comfortable, I took risk and unsna! bra.. no resistance.. she got
e+cited $hen I $ent for ni!!les, did that for a $hile, and brushed
her outside seducessy 2slight resistance by arm.. $ash rinse re!eat
- or . times, and then $ent inside the stockings
for the kill.. that got her e+cited alot. *hen re!eat, fingering her,
then let us 'both fall' to the car!et gently, lie her do$n, and finger
her>lick ni!!les>neck, till she is nuts.
Ask her if she like me 'c: I dont kno$'. ask her if she can follo$
me > trust me. 2c: I $ill). She says lightly 2its not fair).
do more fingering a bit, condom on $hile still fingering 2no !ause
in fignering so she doesnt lose state). I $ant you to trust me 2c: ok),
fingering, and dick in right a$ay, fuck starts..
F8oints about her:
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FShe likes gardening
FShe doesnt $ant to be called 'chan' because she is mother to her
friends, leader, to!
Fshe $ants to make her o$n money and be strong
Fshe likes other $oman and $ant to be their mother
FI think she is a bit S, but for se+, 9(
FShe likes dance and sees things same $ay as me.
FShe is bad to talk, but easy $ith me
Fshe likes !iano, =a44 ballet
Ffirst se+ since a $hile she says
Fshe had 'bf' till dec, but he ne"er E%>se+ her though 2oddG not a
bfG)
S3e said she $as 'ko$ai' about se+, but didnt !hysically resist
much, though I did make some !auses to restate that I $ant her to
be comfortable, and that she can sto! me any time and I $ill sto!
right a$ay, =ust I $ant us to feel comfortable. A:ter that, fuck $as
easy.
FFIf you do something Auickly>as sur!rise to chick 2ie. a E%), she
$ill act as naturally !rogrammed by habit 2ie. a"oid the kc), e"en if
she really $anted to E% you. So in that case, you go slo$, and ask
first, so that she can !rocess, and not do the habit.
*his can $ork to your ad"antage too, if a chick 60ES something
she $ould ordinarily do, but you use it in an unusual conte+t,
$here other$ise she $ouldn't ha"e 2ie. in romantic setting, do a
E%)
FF3&Ilike3
FLooks like 'conser"ati"e Ha!anese girl'
FLIE: S3E :7%EE6 A @7 :R09 A &AR, *3E SA9E
/I@3* I/ E7R08E
FS3E 60ES/* RE9E9&ER I: S3E 7SE6 A %0/609
FSaid 'I ne"er did anything like 0/S'
FLIEG
FSaid' I only ha"e long term &:'
FLIEG &RAI/ 0/E WA, &06 0*3ERG
F60 /0* &ELIE;E *3IS &7LLS3I*... ALL W09E/ 60 I*GG
FF8hone calls and uncontrolled situations
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E"erytime you are going into uncontrolled situation, your chance
of losing the chick is "ery 3I@3G
*his goes for !hone calls, if you do not get her the first time, at a
time she is not busy>$ith friends>on the train, by chance, then you
are at a "ery high chance to lose her. &ecause you don't kno$ her
situation>attitude then, and if it is $rong>situation, you can
do /0*3I/@ to fi+ it, and $hate"er you do, you $ill look
WEAEG
So t$o $ays to a"oid this.
': use email to establish the first contact 2she $ill re!ly you $hen
she is free). or
,: set the ne+t meeting, $hen you are at the first meeting>o!ener if
you can. If you fail, then go to ': abo"e.
FFWhat I $ant from a chick
Fse+y body
Fheight>$idth match
Fthin and !retty
Fnice bottom
Flikes to look>dress se+y
Flikes $ierd stuff
F!ositi"e character
Fgood social skill
Fconfidence in seduceblic>can handle !eo!le
Flikes dance
Fnice "oice
Flikes se+>"ibes
Fa good $ild acti"e fuck, legs a!art and in the air
Fm'ish girl
Fnot big s!ender>stu!id sho!!er
Fnot selfish>$ant her o$n $ay
Fno smoking>drinking !roblems
Fno mental !roblems>unconfidence>insecurity>snoo!ing>unstable
Fnot too much time fucking $ith makeu!s
Fnot des!erate to be married
FFSE67%E *3E0R: *3E @.7.*.
FIdea of the o!ener 2the @.7.*. of SE67%E)
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Horizontal, and Vertical Communication
Satellites broadcast on the same freAuency on , !olarities
2hori4ontal, and "ertical).
*$o different channels are there, coming in at the same time. *he
same is true $hen
you talk to a chick.
Imagine 'hori4ontal', is the $ords you are saying 2fluff, a story,
some Auestions or comments about the $eather). *his is the
conscious stuff you can ty!e and transcribe.
&ut at the same time, there is a '"ertical' channel of
communication, that most !eo!le arent a$are of. *his is the
channel $here tonality, s!eed>!itch of "oice 2and the emotions that
those con"ey, like confidence, fear, an+iety, !o$er, ego..) are
con"eyed. *his is subconscious, but is !resent ne"er the less. It is
the communication on this channel, that $ill determine $hether the
chick 'likes' you or not.
*he basic idea is in first fe$ minutes 25..'1), to kee! con"ersation
going in any $ays, so your 'atmos!here' con"eys "ia the "ertical.
*hen she $ill be rela+ed, and con"ersation $ill be able to go on its
o$n, then you can use hori4ontal, to start leading the "ertical
2stories about feeling, ho$ you lead, natural $ay, differences of
!eo!le..etc).
Ste!s in intro SE67%E:
F0!ener: first 5..'1 minutes
F0!ener 2hori4onal)..kee! it going, doesn't matter $hat you say,
because the real transmission is ha!!ening "ia the "ertical
2tonality, manner, !itch, s!eed).
*he chick $ill 'like' you if your tonality and !itch sho$
confidence, authority and al!ha characteristics on this "ertical
channel. 3ori4ontal is not really as im!ortant $hat you say, as
long as the con"ersation kee!s going, and is interesting 2see my
other file), about tra"el, or !laces $ent, or sho!!ing..
A chick $ill usually 2"ia the "ertical communication) mirror your
emotional state.
So if your talk is rushed, she $ill feel rushed, if your talk is
ner"ous she $ill feel ner"ous. If your talk is rela+ed, calm,
'1-
mysterious tonality then she $ill also rela+>calm>sho$ interest.
Same goes for Eino 2should ha"e already started by no$).
F9iddle: con"ersation no$ natural, she could !ick u! your
authority>confidence in ste! abo"e "ia "ertical, so no$ you can
start to lead her feelings and sho$ direction "ia hori4ontal 2ie.
$ords you say). *his is stories, and Auestions, no$ about you,
e+!eriences, or her. Eino should be getting closer>better.
*onality, Eino, s!eed of "oice should continue, along $ith stories
to demonstrate al!ha > !ersonality>kanchou. &e attracti"e, and not
seduceshy. *hen, $hen it is clear she likes you 2I0I F mystery),
indications of interest, then actually make the !itch 2E%, close..).
Adding alcohol also $orks $ell too.
&asically, idea here is that the fluff at the start Sreally does not
matterS. &ecause this 2hori4ontal) communication is not $here the
im!ortant communication is ha!!ening, it is on the "ertical side
$hich is $hy !eo!le don't usually notice it, and ho$ SE67%E
seems so mysterious.. but this is the secret.. no$ it is all logical
and clear.
PUA Behaviour
FF@oing from A:% to SE67%ER means changing e"erything
about yourself. E"ery little beha"ior, you ha"e to e+amine. 3o$
you say good morning, or hello to a classmate or coF$orker, 2eye
contact, tonality, s!eed,!itch, body mo"ement), s!eed of $alking,
$here>$hat you look at> $hat you think $hen you are alone..etc.
Eanchou, or follo$er>$eak one. A SE67%ER $ill ne"er seducet
himself in a situation $here he is the follo$er, or $eak 2Smooth
ne"er $ill). *hrough tonality, and mannerisms, you lead
2encourage guys to talk to lonely girls, or to be friends $ith each
other, but not do so yourself, until your target is ready, and gone
through all the A:%s).
E"en $hen you are not doing SE67%E, you need to think, is the
$ay I talk no$, or $alk, or look at someone, congruent $ith $hat
a SE67%ER $ould do. If not, you need to change it. Each time
you do something, think this, and e"aluate. After a fe$ $eeks your
'1.
beha"ior $ill start to change. *his is im!ortant, because other$ise,
$hen you are $ith a chick, your 'ingrained' beha"ior $ill come out,
2$hich means A:%). &ut if you are ALWAS
thinking>beha"ing>talking $ith attitude, s!eed and tonality of a
SE67%ER, then $hen you 60 meet a chick, all this $ill $ork
!ro!erly, since it is already your natural $ay around !eo!le,
$omen or not.
FF9r. Smooth and 'yes'..
3e ne"er says 'yes', rather it is 'uun', and then he $ill either ask a
Auestion right a$ay about that to!ic, or make a comment 2his o$n,
not about the target's thinking, or 'agreement Auestion like 'yes, so
you like cake' after she says cake is good 2that is =ust silly). 3e $ill
say 'uun, $hat other kind of food do you like, or 'did you make it
yourself'... to kee! the con"ersation going, and more im!ortant, to
LEA6, rather than follo$ the
con"ersation).
-On chick bullshit
If it e"en remotely seems like chick bullshitm, but you are not sure
if it really is, then act as if it is.. that is the $ining strategy.. $hy(
because
')there is a CCY chance that you $ill actually be right, it is bullshit
,)if in the 2"ery) remote offchance you are $rong, and it $asnt
totally 2or e"en !artially) bullshit, and you call her on it any$ays,
that $ill make you look uncontrollable>un !redictable... $hich to a
chick, makes you more desireable.... so calling bullshit, is $in
$in..
FIf it sounds like bullshit, it !robably is.
*his is !articularly true. If the bullshit detector, e"en SslightlyS
goes off, then you are almost %ER*AI/L dealing $ith a lie
2e"en if she I/SIS*S that it is not after you call her on it). Women
are notorious for this sort of bullshit, and $ill lie $ay more than
men 2in s!ite of $hat they might say about honesty being
im!ortant..blah blah).
Some e+am!les of chick bullshit I encountered recently:
') F%hick lea"es after ' hr 2I am tired, $as u! $ith my friends all
night). 2funny, she didn't look tired at all)
'15
F*hen no re!ly>a!ology in mail>!hone later
F*hen $hen I call her on it, she says 'I $as not e+!ecting a date,
but =ust hanging out 2bullshit)'.
m: oh, me too, I =ust meet, and see $hat naturally ha!!ens 2good
re!ly 9).
It $as all a lie though. 8robably she 2%inderella chick) didn't
kno$ ho$ to deal $ith more or less direct talk 2maybe still "irgin(,
she is still young).. ok, I re!laced her in ,1 minutes after that.
,) 9eet chick, goes $ell. $ant to meet again 2$as a bit cold
though, but not sure)
@et Email: sorry, I am busy for ne+t , months, I am mo"ing
2bullshitG). I call her on it. She insists that this is true 2yeah..right it
is...G) *hen no re!ly e"er again.. 2not sure $hat she didnt like)..
this $as a .A chick.
FF%onstructing a good &S !attern 2like the religious !reachers use..
this is ho$ to introduce any !attern>to!ic in isolation of anything
else being discussed)
you kno$, ++++ is like yyy. 2describe e+am!les of yyy). If you
ha"e yyyy, then yo kno$ you ha"e 4444 2444 is the feeling you
$ant to im!rint on the target)
Like being intimate, or hugging, is =ust an e+am!le of
communication at many le"els, the $ay you look at each other, and
feel that connection $ith each other, and ho$ you are held gently,
and softly, and feel com!letely secure. It is all $ays of reaching
each other $ithout talking, and is com!letely natural. And if that
feeling is good, and you kno$ you can feel that connection $ith
that !erson, then you kno$ that you ha"e met someone you can
trust..
FFAbout smooth, ne$ insight: When trying to SE67%E a girl,
don't be seduceshy to try to E% her or fuck, or hold her, rather,
demonstrate !ersonality 2kanchou), till you E/0W she $ants then
do it 2smooth and married girl).. that $ill $ork, e"en in a grou!,
because you can demonstrate !ersonality 2ie. describe natural $ay,
connection.. usuing right tonality)
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to all the !eo!le at once 2if it is !ossible to lead con"ersation, and
other guys are coFo!erating $ith you). *hen $hen you kno$ she
WA/*S 2ie. is gagging for it) to E%, fuck, it is "ery easy.
FF$omen like !layboy A:*ER they got him 2they dont $ant to
kno$ he is !layboy before they get him.. slut defence logic).. but
after they got him.. kakkkoi... I $as :taken>caught' by himG
Lay report..
*his time got her 2- timesG).
Fstill uneasy
Fshe later said in morning, she $anted &: because already she
kne$ english ty!e, american ty!e, and that I $as close as latin
ty!e.
FShe said she ne"er started so fast
Fshe said she $anted to kiss me friday, and really $anted me on
:riday 2$ould ha"e been hard I think though).. her mood didnt
sho$ this..
F*oday, she $as "ery close the li!s, it $as clear she $anted a kiss..
ha!!ened naturally..
Ftold her 2kiddingly) her first im!ression $as bad
FTheme of talk was 'follow your heart, and do what is natural
way, it is the way for my life'. Lots of 'so, can I ask you' type
questions?
F $hy no &: in - years 2I am not looking 2lie, she said her friends
she $ants latin &:))
Fou like to be touched 2start kino)
Fshe $as embarrassed that she touched my face.. but cant describe
$hy she liked
FShe couldnt say $hy she like me
FShe $orry about alot that I am !layboy 2=ust then I kid her, I say
'here is your drink, =ust you can en=oy nice e"ening $ith your drink
and your o$n $ay, and I turned my back to her... each time she
$ould seducell be back to her again)..
F0ften I told her to follo$ natural !ace, like the kiss $as)
Flost "irginity at '<, she sais she doesnt need>miss se+ 2$e'll see)
'1B
FWhen I started se+, she $as funny, said 'I feel nothing', and started
doing math !roblems out loud.. it $as "ery funny.. do her a little
harder, and she $ould shriek during the math !roblems
FShe said still feel nothing
F,nd se+, drilled her hard, tell her this is re"enge for annoying me
about the modem...
Ffingered her in the bathroom of the i4akaya
Fne"er really resisted anything.. $as like 9sEinky.. mouth said
no, body said yes 2'no, $hy se+,( then her legs s!read o!en..)..
light $hine, ka$aisou feeling ty!e.. someho$ she $asnt ready, but
at the same time, she $as des!erate for it too.
F0nce, she $anted to sto!, at first, so I did.. but then started
fingering again, and got her..
Fshe likes ni!!les, and sucking.. rather sensiti"e
Fshe doesnt like gossi!s
Fshe doesnt kno$ she is !oseducelar in the office
F$hen I got stuck, talk a bit about $ork stuff, then s$itch back.
F0ne thing $hich $orked $ell, $as to follo$ t$o minds too,
myself. When resistance, sto! cold, but then say 'no se+', $hile you
continue to finger her, and get her ready 2she liked it, it got her
e+cited), then se+ $as easy..
F9et %inderella&abe .
6isa!!ointment.. she $as 'tired' and left after ' hr. ,-yo. :rom
countryside some!lace. &S about missing last train 2it $as only
?:.5!mG). *3en not hungry and not drink, and not $ant to $alk...
bye.. It $as hard to transition to the &: stuff she li"ed in S: for -
years, then Eobe.. bu=t no &:). I had to use the 'esca!e hatch' of 5
years future to s$itch con"ersation to &:>@: stuff 2I $ant a nice
$oman I can trust).. but she ran a$ay before I
could finish it 2I got her ans$er 2nice =ob), but couldnt re!ly before
she $ent home mine... I think she =ust bolted.. not sure if she e"er
had &: e"er.. I think she is a "irgin and still scared of men..
FFRandom thoughts
9arriage is great for girl, because by la$ you ha"e to gi"e her
rocks. &ut she has no obligation to gi"e you gold..
FRandom thoughts
'1?
A cute chick is not much harder to lay 2!sychologically) than the
ugs. Hust an 7g $ill be more a"ailable>easy to schedule..etc. So
focus on the 3&s instead, es!ecially in !laces $here the 7@>3&
ratio is not too messed u! 2ie. 7SA).
9aniac 3ighJs /o /on sense Auick ste! to
guide to friendshi!
3ere it is "irgins and ne$bies, the guide you $on't find any $here
elseG 9aniac 3ighJs one !age crib notes on ho$ to catch, seduce
and lay a chick for the guy that doesnJt kno$ ho$G
/oticeI this stuff $orksG you absol"e me of res!onsibility for $hat
may ha!!en if you follo$ this. use at your o$n riskG it is
e+!erimentalG use at your o$n risk onlyG
/ote, this is a S"eryS condensed summary. Although this $ill get
you started, there is far far more to learn besides $hat's in this file
to be successful ...
So, $ith no further ado, here is $hat you gotta do to lay a chick, in
a bunch of clear
Easy ste!sG
:irst, the summary: &asically, the ste!s are:
F6o the !icku!
F@et her alone
F@et her feeling secure
F@et her laughing
F@et her imagination going and horny
F8our on the kino 2!hysical contact)
FEiss and then fuck her
So here $e go, the ste! by ste! guideG
A)*he !icku!, :irst meeting the chick and making an im!ression
FS!eak $ith good tonality, clearly, and dee!ly $hene"er you talk
to a $oman.
F9ake good eye contact.
'1C
F@et Eye contact, maybe a smile then a!!roach her, slo$ly, and
com!liment her 2if sheJs not so !retty, and if she is 60 /0*
com!liment her on her a!!earance) > introduce yourself.
FWAnother $ay that $orks, if you are $ith a $ingman 2a guy friend
also $ith you), is to talk about the chick 2fuck, that skirt is short), a
bit loudly, to your $ingman, but so the chick can hear. She $ill
then look at you, and then continue as if you =ust introduced
yourself.
F*alk a little more 2do you li"e near here>$ork near here..blah
blah). 7se some humor and =okes...you $ant to get her smiling >
laughing or anything else after this ste! $ont $ork 2;ER
I980R*A/*G)
FAsk her for going to coffee right there, to continue talking.
FIf she's busy, get her !hone number 2if she asks for yours instead,
insist or tell her to forget it 2=oke that you ne"er gi"e your number
to a girl, because Dyou $ont call..$ill you, you $ill =ust sho$ it to
all your friends, giggle and then thro$ it a$ay...$on't you IF)D.. at
this !oint she should gi"e you hers 2or at least trade). If not, forget
it, as she $ill not call
you any$ays, so =ust lea"e.
FIf you gi"e her yours, then you'"e su!!licated to her, you'"e let
her take control. 2$omen dont like guys they can control..its
boring, and its not fun>e+citing for them, e"en if they dont admit it
o!enly).
&) Fou meet her some!lace 2near your house so you can get her
o"er later that night) later $hen she is not $ith her friends, either
right a$ay, or you called her and in"ited her Dto coffee 2or a drink)
around ?!m after your su!!er business meeting>classD 2$hy s!end
money on su!!er for her no$( What has she done for 07( so
far../0*3I/@G), and also, su!!er is boring for most $omen, ski!
it till A:*ER you ha"e fucked her). Also, if its going
bad, you can blo$ her out after '5>,1 minutes 2and make her !ay
her drink). :or su!!er, this is harder to do, and you are stuck $ith
her for ' hr $hile you $ait for all the food and bullshit..
FAs soon as you meet her, hug her 2and try to) kiss her ASA8 if
you can 2like in the first 5 seconds). If she doesn't look like she
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$ill go for a kiss, gi"e a big smile, hug her, and gesture her to kiss
your cheek $ith your finger. *his gets you started, and $ill set the
tone for the rest of the e"ening.
F%hoose a !lace you can sit Sne+tS to the chick 2not facing, $ith a
table bet$een you). If you are ne+t to her, you can get close to her,
and start kino 2touching), but $ith a table bet$een, you cant.
F*he goal of this date 2at minimum), is to get her
laughing>smiling>start massi"e amounts of kino, get her to acce!t
holding her hand, and a tongue do$n at the end of the e"ening. If
its going really $ell, get her o"er right then, or sa"e that for the
ne+t time $hen you in"ite her to make su!!er $ith you at your
!lace.
FSo, no$, at the first e"ening at the coffee sho!>beer !lace. *alk
about her $ork, her dreams, find out her core "alues, $hat is
im!ortant to her, and try to link to that.
FLearn to tell stories, this gets her imagination going, talk about
things like ad"enture, her ideal relationshi! 2see if she $ants a
relationshi!, or =ust se+...you can tell by her reaction), the feelings
that brings out inside her $hen she meets someone ne$, suddenly,
and ho$ magical that is..blah blah blah.. If she is not the
Drelationshi!D kind of chick, then talk about Dfriendshi!D, and ho$
it is so $onderful to be friends 2see my 9r. Smooth !ost, on my
!age).
FEee! good eye contact, $atch for her lean $ords, and use those in
your con"ersation..
F7se =okes, be funny, to get her thinking in an intimate mood 2DIeI
I bet $hen you dress like that, you get attention of all the
guys...blah blah).
FAsk her about her !re"ious &:s.
FWhile you are doing all this, often 2$hen you laugh..etc), touch
her side $aist, or shoulder, or back $ith your hand, firmly.. 2dont
do the hands or hi!s yet, unless she starts to initiate > get in closer,
or starts touching your shoulder>$aist sometimes). *his is
authoritarian, and she $ill res!ect this, and your authority. 6o this
0:*E/.
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F*alk some more, tell more stories 2I tell a story about D9y friend,
$ho is a !laygirl, and tries to slee! $ith married men.. %an you
belie"e that.. I mean, did you e"er do like her.. ie 3a"e you e"er
had a ' night stand... blah blahD.
F*hen I mo"e on to the story of my drunk chick coF$orkers, $ho at
a dinner !arty, $e asked if they e"er did a -! 2- !erson) se+, and
one raised her hand. *hen I asked ho$ many $anted to, and ALL
raised their handsG And then got each to tell us all the stuff they did
$ith their &:s 2costume !lay, S9..etc).. 6id you e"er ha"e any
&:'s like this(D.
FHudge her reactions to the abo"e story, this $ill tell you $hat she
might> might not be interested in.
FShe may ask you about old @:s, so tell her some good stories 2if
you dont ha"e any, use the ones from lay re!orts on my $eb
!age)..
FE"ery time you laugh, or say something, seducet your hand on her
shoulder, or $aist, or thigh, gently, but authoriti"ely..get the kino
going.
F*alk about Ddo you kno$ that more romance no"els are sold in
the 7S than !orno mags for men( 0ne of my friends said that
romance no"els is basically $oman's !ornogra!hy.. you kno$, like
$hen the $oman meets the ideal guy...D
t..and suddenly they 'clicked right there' blah blah blah and she
couldn't belie"e ho$ close she $as getting to him..blah blah..)
F:ind out about old &:'s, $hat she liked>didn't like. And $hen she
mentions a feeling, elaborate on it 2the good feelings and ho$ you
like them, and the bad onesI ho$ you hate it $hen that ha!!ens,
and ho$ to feel 2good feeling) is much better..
FAsk, Dho$ do you kno$ you are getting into a s!ecial
relationshi!, or someone has become your boyfriendD 2and then do
>talk about those ste!s), get her "isuali4ing that ideal
relationshi! >time $ith a guy..
Ffinish drinking.
FAs you are doing this talking, touch her shoulder $hen she is
saying her ans$ers, or her leg 2she is sitting ne+t to you, so should
be easy), start e"en more kino.
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F6o a 'hand reading', or comment ho$ her skin is soft, and kid ho$
she ne"er does the dishes or something like that.
FAlso, ask her $hat kinds of dishes she likes to cook 2this is the
setu! for the ne+t date, at your !lace, in case she doesn't come o"er
to fuck you tonight right after the drinks).
FAfter that, remark, ho$ another time, $e can make that dish
together 2kiddingly).
F6ont be too gentleman during this e"ening..treat her as a 'friend'
$ith your tonality, but be kino. Ie. you are the !ri4e, and she is
/0*.
FWra! u! the drinks. 9ake her !ay her o$n if you can 2ie. if she
offers her !art..let her..fuck this gentleman shit, it is su!!lication,
you =ust $ent casually for drinks, friend to friend not on a real
date..).
FIf it is going really $ell, ask her o"er to a!!reciate your !otted
!lants>record collection>gourmet coffee>$ine..etc.
FIf its not ready yet, go to ste! D%D
%)@round $ork...get her ready to fuck.
F9aniac has found that @R07/6W0RE is real im!ortant 2ie.
kissing>feeling u! the chick before getting her to your !lace). If
you don't do this, she often free4es u! and freaks out $hen she gets
to your !lace. @etting to your !lace is a REWAR6 for her letting
you kiss her and feel her u!.
FAfter, go for a short $alk. When you get outside, offer her your
arm aFla french style, to escort the lady 2 more !hysical action..she
gets to feel your touch moreG).
If you did the abo"e talking right in the restaurant, she $ill be
comfortable $ith this and take your arm. If she doesn't, then you
got a $ierdo, or a !aranoid, and you $ont get far $ith her and get
rid of her.
F*ry to take her hand 2maybe sto! at a $indo$ of a sho! or
something and look at something $ith her, then $hen you
continue, take her hand). Rub her hand a bit as you $alk too. See if
she reci!rocates 2if she does, it is kiss time)..
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F@o to a safe, but not cro$ded area, 2!ark>bench on the street), and
look at her eyes, still holding her hand2s), and =ust say Ddo you
$ant to kiss meD.
Anything but a clear direct /0 you say, and mo"e in and kiss her..
FIf that doesn't look like it $ill $ork, say Dokay, lets seeD, and then
kiss her. 9ake it short, and end the kiss first, then say D$o$, that
$as "ery good, one more..D, and go in for more. :irst soft on the
li!s, then later, tongue action, if she starts to o!en her mouth as
you kiss.
FIf this is going $ell, and you can touch her here and there as
kissing is ha!!ening, then you $ant to get her back ASA8 WSte!
DEDX.
FIf not, goto Ste! D6D belo$.
6)%ontinue the nice $alk at night in to$n, she should be used to
=ust grabbing your arm by no$ for $alking if you did this right. If
she does it s!ontaneously, then you =ust gently, but intentionally
take her hand.
FWalk>talk> tell more stories to get her "isuali4ing..
FAt some !oint, go to the bathroom or something, so you break her
hand contact.
FWhen you come back, she should reach back for your hand no$ if
you did all this right so far. If not, then you need to tell more
stories and make her "isuali4e some more about
lo"e>attraction>relationshi!s>e+citement blah blah.
FIf its going really $ell, you can try to kiss her in the !ark, $hile
telling her some story about sudden romance, and asking her $hat
kind of !erson she is. *he ans$er $ill tell you if you can kiss her
or not.
FIf you cant kiss her no$, then there is another chance later you
should take $hen you say goodbye that e"ening, if you don't get to
fuck her that night.
FWalk some more, and escort her back 2to the
trainstation>car..$hate"er).
F@i"e her a slo$ kiss if she kissed you before, and if not, gi"e her a
Auick one on the li!s and say thank you, it $as a !leasure to meet
you and s!end time tonight 2if it really $as).
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FIf she looks ready to come o"er to your !lace to fuck, tell her that
you ha"e some !ictures>art>music>gourmet coffee>s!aghetti you'd
like to share $ith her, and if she'd like to come. She $ill likely say
DnoD the first time, so be !ersistant and insist 2s!end 5 minutes at
this before gi"ing u!).
F/ote though, that lots of girls don't $ant to fuck the first day, and
may gi"e you trouble $ith this. So if it doesn't look like she is
$illing to come o"er *0/I@3*, =ust end the e"ening for no$.
FA/other !o$er mo"e is to =ust say Dlets goD, and dont tell her
$here you are going. *hen $hen 2if) she asks, tell her you are
taking her o"er so you can s!end more time together, hugging and
being closer.
F*hen, 6ont talk about the ne+t date. Its better to make her think
she did something $rong, or $onder.
FIf things are going really $ell though, either ask her o"er RI@3*
*3E/, to see your dra$ings, or to !lay !iano, or $hate"er, or
make a date for *090RR0W, at your !lace.
FIf things $ent =ust okay, dont $orry, =ust you need more $ork.
%all her in a day or t$o, and tell her ho$ it $ould be great if $e
met again. 9ake the meeting..$hich is as follo$s..
FIf you could kiss her in the !ark, then in"ite her o"er for
lunch>su!!er.
If not, then do another drink date, ?!m and !our on the initial hug,
kino.. etc.. and try again to kiss her some !oint in the night, more
than a Auickie kiss and get her o"er ASA8 2she should, since she
6I6 agree to see you again)..
E)She is coming o"er:
FWhen you meet her, gi"e her a hug right a$ay, and take her hand,
try to kiss
her if you can 2settle for the cheek if you ha"e to).
F*his is im!ortant, and $ill set the tone for the entire rest of the
e"ening.
ou 97S* do this as soon as you meet her.
FAfter that take her hand>arm, and all that o"er again from the
beginning, because $omen often lose that romantic state from the
last time they sa$ you, till then. ou can get through it all !retty
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fast, tell more stories, mo"e to holding hands..blah blah, and try to
kiss her more 2before you get to the house if you can, so she
doesn't feel threatened, but someho$ she is reminded $hats
coming). It may seem strange, but you ha"e to start o"er at the
beginning, and run through this all o"er again 2usually) to get all
the feelings going to $here you left off the last time you sa$ her if
it has been a fe$ days..
FWhen you get her o"er, try to kiss her 2=ust say Ddo you $ant to
kiss me, or say DI $ant to kiss youD..if resistance, then =ust a Dshort
oneD) and get !hysical 2gently) as soon as she gets in the !lace. If
she is resisting, or is not in the Dright moodD, then do the
su!!er>order !i44a first, and sa"e the fuck till after..
F3a"e a nice su!!er, 2!ossibly $ith romantic candles and soft
music...or order that !i44a, and $atch a mo"ie in the li"ing room
2again, you'll be ne+t to her, so you can do kino). If you make
su!!er, eat it in the li"ing room $ith the mo"ie too, so you can do
kino. *he dinner table sucks, you cant touch her there, so forget
that..
FAfter>during su!!er, kiss more, and do gentle kino.. a long kiss ..
F*o start the kiss, =ust look in her eyes, and ask her if she is a
romantic !erson, or Ddo you $ant to kiss meD 2thanks 9ystery for
that ti!G). After she says yes 2if she doesnJt, you ha"e a !roblem,
go back u! a fe$ ste!s on the list>tell more stories), say nothing,
and gi"e her a light kiss on the li!s, and then more longer>dee!er
kisses.
F0k, no$ you are at first base, no$, lets get to the fuck..
:)3o$ to get the !hysical stuff going so you can fuck her..
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FEiss her french for a short bit 2like -1 seconds).
F*hen mo"e your li!s to kiss her on the neck, ears, let your hands
$ander, to
her breasts..etc, o"er her clothes. as you kiss her.
FIf that goes okay, kee! going, kiss her neck, and front of neck, and
then back to the ear.
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FIf it doesn't go okay, try more gentle kissing, and teasing, be
funny, not ner"ous., ie. back u! a cou!le ste!s and then continue. It
make take you . or 5 Dbacku! and retries to get !ast this..D
FWomen ears are really sensiti"e, as you are kissing the ear and
licking it, raise her shirt>bra, kiss her on her shoulders, around her
breasts, =ust a ta!, and mo"e some$here else $ith your li!s, and
then mo"e back no$ and then, kissing more and more her breasts..
she should start to get "ery e+cited..
FWsometimes, right around here, she $ill free4e u! and say Ddo you
really like me..are you !laying me..blah blah... D. *his is the last of
the barriers to come do$n. *ell her ho$ your life changed since
you met her, and ho$ strangely, you =ust felt so at ease,
comfortable and close since you met her and ho$ it $as so s!ecial
in some strange $ay, $hich is $hy you felt you had to see her
againD... then continue kissing..X
Ffinally reach to her ni!!les, a Auick kiss>maybe a small bite, then
mo"e else$here, kee!ing your rhythm and mood to the
music>situation. 6o not talk..
F9o"e your li!s back to her neck, and carress her breasts and chest
gently $ith your hands, then mo"e back there to kiss it again,
seducetting your hand else$here on her body.
FEee! kissing her on her neck>li!s>breasts>ni!!les, and your hands
$ander all o"er her body, let one !ass o"er her crotch and see ho$
see reacts 2a little resistance is fine>normal...=ust ignore it).
FStart to stimulate her crotch $ith your hand o"er her !ants>skirt.
F@o again $ith your hand, get inside her !ants, and start to
stimulate her, gently > softly
FShe should get "ery "ery e+cited at this !oint if u! to no$ you did
it right.
FAt that !oint, seducell off her !ants 2dont ask her, =ust do it, from
the time you kissed her neck, you should not talk at all, =ust do, let
her mind only listen to the music, and see you on her, and the
candle light).
F6onJt ask to touch her > fuck her, =ust do, or at most =ust tell her
you $ant her.. or Dlets feel each other closer more directlyD..etc.
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F$atch her reaction..some resistance is okay, but if she has an
angry look on her face, and is really seducetting u! a fuss, then
back u! one or t$o ste!s on this list, and then resume going do$n
the list after a cou!le minutes. Re!eat as necessary. If she really
doesnJt like it, she $ill get a$ay from you 2and if that ha!!ens,
*3R0W 3ER 07*G, you got a :REAEG).
FAlso, absolutely ignore anything she says. She $ill !robably say
she doesnJt $ant to fuck you no$, and other blah blah. Ignore it
absolutely. Watch her body language only. It $onJt lie, but her
$ords !robably $ill. In s!ite of $hat all the femena4iJs say, girls
really like to be DtakenD, and $ant to feel they DdidnJt ha"e a
choiceD.
FEiss her crotch, as $ell as e"ery$here else, be gentle, learn $hat
she likes >doesn't like in the $ay you touch>kiss her...e"ery girl is
different and uniAue so find out right a$ay $hat that is.
F0nce you kno$ $hat that is, kee! $orking on her $ith your hands
and li!s until she gets really cra4y
FStimulate her crotch $ith your fingers, and $ork her there till she
goes totally nuts, mo"e your li!s u! to her neck>ear, kiss her, your
hands on her breasts, and seducet your condom on 2$hich you
already had ready nearby).
FEee! going $ith the kissing on the neck and hands on the
breasts>crotch.
FSeducet your dick in, and drill her till you>she comes. It is easy at
this !oint.
@);arious notes..
FSee ho$ good she is at that 2though some girls are better the
,nd>-rd time), so slee! $ith her a cou!le more times.
FAt that !oint, you are no$ ready to decide $hat kind of
relationshi! $ho $ant $ith her, if any, and you can de"elo! that
too
FSWarningS, 60 /0* try and de"elo! a relationshi! $ith a girl
SbeforeS you slee! $ith her. &ecause, then your head gets all
messed u!, $hen they decide they like that relationshi! they
already got, and don't $ant to risk ruining it by ha"ing se+.
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FS0 you get the se+ first, so there is no risk of that !roblem, and
*3E/ 2A/6 0/L *3E/), do you think about a relationshi! or
not, $ith that $oman.
Any$ays, if you are "ery good in bed 2$hich you $ill be if you
al$ays !ay attention to the girl real carefully and $hat she really
$ants 2and not $hat she says she $ants, $hich is almost al$ays
the o!!osite), the girl $ill al$ays $ant the relationshi!, so then
you get to choose $hether you $ant a relationshi! $ith her, or not,
or if you =ust $ant to see her a fe$ more times for se+ and then get
rid of her if she is not your ty!eIor you donJt get along $ith her
!ersonally...
Fou see girls $ant a dream. ou gi"e her that dream, and let her
li"e it...and she is yours...
FFFand that, is ho$ its done..
Some im!ortant rules: *he guy has to do e"erythingGG he has to
make all the mo"esGGG the $oman 2unless she is ugly, or des!erate)
rarely $illGG so e"en if she likes you, and you dont make mo"es,
she $ill think you are not interested..and get rid of youGGGG, or
$orse, =ust $ant to be your friendGGG and you become her doormat G
*hen she $ill then ne"er become your girlfriend...e"erGGGG $omen
$ant to be made to feel that they Ddidnt ha"e a choiceD.. 2ie. so
they dont ha"e to $orry about the DslutD factor...)
and the other is::irst se+, and then 2maybe) a relationshi!...and
ne"er ne"er Sne"erS e"er the other $ay aroundGG if you e"er gi"e a
girl a relationshi! >friendshi! before you make her gi"e you se+,
you $ill ne"er get anyGGG she $ill =ust $alk all o"er youGG *elling
you about all her !roblems, not $anting to ruin her Drelationshi!D
$ith you by ha"ing se+GGG .. $hile she makes someone else her real
boyfriendGGG $ell...scre$ that...GG
If you are too concerned about girl's feelings, and ne"er think
about your o$n you $onJt be successful $ith $omen, and they
$ill al$ays =ust $ant to be your friend. Rather, you ha"e to $orry
about $hat you $ant, and if they can li"e $ith that, they can go out
$ith you.
Learn, en=oy, and gi"e ha!!iness to a lady out thereG
8eaceI
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Maniac's new framework for executing pickups and lays!
Strategy Re!ort: 9aniac's ne$ !lanG Wlong..detailedX 11''1-
*his is a "ery fucking long !ost and summari4es alot of $ork I
ha"e been doing
recently. *his is $hy I ha"ent been on AS: these days.. 3ere's the
result of it all, looking for your thoughts on it guys>ladies..
Recently I ha"e been trying to assemble e"erything I ha"e been
learning on AS: and else$here into a !lan, or frame$ork I can use
in SE67%E.
&elo$ are the results so far, comments a!!reciated.
It incor!orates a bit of SS, but more DstorytellingD. I learned this
from *aro san Z 9rSe+.u/%, $ho ha"e suggested the idea of
using stories to get things going.. he is right. I found that SS on its
o$n didn't $ork real $ell for me 2too abstract), but SS, combined
$ith effecti"e storytelling, $orks far far better 2and also I am able
to do this in Ha!anese).
*he results of this in the last fe$ $eeks of trying it are B1Y
Eiss>tonguedo$n closes, and one fuck close 2$ithin . hours of
meeting the chick) so far and , that are a gi"en the ne+t time I
meet the chick.
I $ill !ost the strategy belo$, and then e+!lain it line by line after
as it $on't make much sense on its o$n.
*he strategy of this is to first get basic info about the chick, elicit
her "alues and then D!erformD 2as mystery $ould seducet it) stories
and games that $ill elicit res!onses in the chick to get her to
admire you 2I found a chick must admire you for SsomethingS
before deciding to fuck you, be it looks, intelligence, money, social
skill, se+ual skill, or $hate"er), follo$ed by a lots of se+ual
accelerators.
:ollo$ing mystery's :9A% 2:ind, 9eet, Attract, %lose), this most
likely fits the DAttract, %loseD !arts of the SE67%E. I $ill $ork on
:ind and 9eet later, as this is more com!licated I think.
Also, as the belo$ is "ery structured, it is easy for guys like me to
remember and if you memori4e the basic structure, you can talk for
about . hours on this, so you $ill ne"er run out of things to say
again 2actually, naninani ins!ired me to $rite this after he said he
',1
didnt kno$ $hat to say on a meeting $ith a chick, so here is
*0/S to say, and elicit a $omen res!onses).
0E, here it is, and then $e go in de!th afterG It is a $ork in
!rogress, it may change, ideas are $elcomeG
It is easy to remember:
Section headers are:
B (Before you start) ; B (Basics) ; V (Values) ; G (Guys/gals) ;
A (Admiration)
D (Deeper values) ; M (Man) ; H (Hentai -- the wierd stuff) ;O
(Our World)
S (Sex accelerators)
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9aniac SE67%E beta sheet 11'1,5
T*he first !art &F&; is to sufficiently 'inter"ie$' the chick so you
kno$ $hich stories to !erform>not !erform later on, and to get an
idea $hat e+cites this chick>$hat are
"alues are, so you can do the rest of SE67%E !ro!erlyU
--(B)EFORE you Start:
Fremember to mirror 2you can get a$ay $ith really alotG)
Ftonality
Fsmile
Fsit in !lace $here kino is !ossible 2ie. side to her)
Fkino..kino kinoG
Fget her laughing, admiration stories Z laugh yourself
Fmeet her some$hat near your !lace
F@0AL: to take her on an intense emotional =ourney Z to tra"el
$ith her..not to lay her 2that is =ust the bonus round)
Ffind out if she likes to drink Tso you kno$ $here to take her ne+tU
If you are meeting her as date again:
Fo!en the D&ritish friendD and $hat 3& Afro did to him 2!layed
him) =ust for no$ say, something ha!!ened to my friend, I met at
lunch regarding a girl I $ill say later)
Tthis is basically the 3& afro breaku! story 2she $as !laying
se"eral guys and I found out, a!!lied to 'my friend'.. it is a sad
story, and dra$s sym!athy right at the start)
(B)ASICS:
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F$here li"e( Tso you kno$ if you can go to her !lace>$hen she has
to goU
F!arents>alone( T&:( can arrange to get to her !lace(U
F=ob ty!e>hours( TEno$ $hen you can call her>ho$ a"ailable is
sheU
F=ob location( TEno$ good !laces to meet her>not go $ith other
$omenU
(V)ALUES:
/o$ find her "alues: 2do this so you kno$ $hat is im!ortant to
her so you kno$ $hich stories to tell laterU
F$hat is most challenging things about her $ork To!en some
emotional states no$U
F!erform a story that reflects states that she =ust said
Ffind out ho$ she s!ends her free time>hobbies
F$hat those make her feel 2emotional states 2ie honest 2means)
FFDsecureD 2ends))
F/o$ age regress to see $hat they missed out on so you can gi"e
to her no$: Tie. if you could reFdo your life, $hat $ould you do
differently(U
F!erform age regression>$hat did you miss out>$ant story 2/%F
layguide)
Fin 5 years time, $hat does she $ant to be>do(
F!erform a story that reflects states that she =ust said
Ffind out her fa"orite mo"ie Tto see $hat things are im!ortant to
herU
Ffind out if she is a romantic ty!e 2for hand>arm gag later) Tthis
gag is that $hen you then lea"e the coffee sho!, you then say Doh,
so you are the romantic ty!e you saidD and then hold out your arm
aFla french style.. $hen you cross a street, take 'care' of her and
grab her handGU
Ffind out if she likes to cook 2for cook gag later) Tthis gag is the
'I'm hungry, lets cook something' and take her to the grocery and
back home to cook it 2or for ne+t date)U
F!erform fa"orite i4akaya story 2for ne+t meeting gag) Ttell her
about Dyour fa"ourite old style beer hall, and ho$ you $ant to
take her to it ne+t timeD 2it ha!!ens to be right near your !laceG)U
',,
Ffind out if she e"er feels alone Tthen tell her $hat it $ould be like
if she found that 'someone s!ecial'U
Ffind out if she e"er $ishes she could hug someone
Ffind out if she is 'ad"enturous ty!e' 2for kiss gag later) Tkiss gag
is at end of the routine, '$ell, you said you are ad"enturous ty!e
and you ha"e ne"er kissed at the end of a first date, so lets kissG...
usually they go for it in this conte+tU
(G)UY/GAL FF find out her ideal guy 2you), and ideal girl 2herself)
Tthis tells you $hat she likes in a guy, and ho$ she sees herself, so
no$ you kno$ ho$ to lead your stories later from ste! 2A) belo$U
Ffind out her fa"orite actor Ttells you $hat she likes in a guyU
Ffind out $hy she likes him>ho$ he makes her feel Tno$ you
kno$ $hat you ha"e to doGU
Ffind out her fa"orite actress T!robably she $ants to be like this
!erson, so no$ you kno$ $hat to say about things you like in a
$oman..herGU
Ffind out $hy she likes him>ho$ he makes her feel
Ffind out $hat she likes in a guy>&: Tand follo$ $hat she says
&uck$heatGU
(A)DMIRATION -- /o$ get her to admire SyouS:. At this stage
the 'inter"ie$' Auestions are o"er, and no$ you =ust tell stories
based on info from the Auestions,, to get her to $ant to fuck you.
'..all the rest of the ste!s from this one are the same $ay 2stories >
Auestions designed to e+cite the chick to fuck you, right u! to the
endU
TI learned this from 9ystery. 3e tells these stories that basically
are uni"ersal $ays to make a chick A69IRE you. I found a chick
must admire you at some le"el 2any le"el) before she is $illing to
fuck you 2running from the bear, rock climing $ith a broken
ro!e..U
F!erform life is an ad"enture story Tmy life is like ad"enture, I
tra"el all o"er the $orld, and $ant to al$ays disco"er ne$
things, you only li"e life once, and this is the one chance $hich
you getGU
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F!erform dance story>feeling story Tdance is like a
communication bet$een t$o !eo!le at a different le"el.. it is the
body e+!ression of communication, a dee!
relationshi! bet$een the music, and your !artner through
mo"ement..U
F!erform in"esting>internet com!any>stocks story Tfor !laying a
gold diggerG I make more through my stocks than I do my salary
2I laid a chick $ith this lineG, and no I didnt buy her anythingGG)U
F!erform Ha!anese..$ork so much but so hard story 2for kiss
cheek gag later).. TI $ork so hard dont IG then smile and gesture a
cheek kiss. E"erytime I say something right in =a!anese do it..
after a fe$ times, say DI $ant a real oneG, that $as a hard oneGD
..laid /ursebabe this $ayG
F!erform ho$ I found dance grou! in *okyo, first months and lost
trains story TI couldnt read anything.. al$ays took the $rong
train, $as al$ays
F!erform ordering a !i44a story Tthe hard time I had the first time
I ordered a !i44a in Ha!anese, 'i=ou' Z the cou!onGU
F!erform mystery's bear chasing him at cam! story
F!erform mystery's breaking ro!e during rock climbing story
F!erform mystery's ant farm story
(D)EEPER FF /o$ lets get her to a dee!er le"el: elicit dee!er
emotions..make her access more dee!ly
F!erform ghosts in the thai office story Tdid you kno$ that in the
*hailand office, there are su!!osed to be ghosts, and that already
'1 !eo!le Auit $hen seeing a ghost $hile $orking late at nightGU
Ffind out if she belie"es in ghosts>es!
F!erform %raig's . Auestions game T': $hite room 2death)
,: fa"orite color 2self "ie$)
-: fa"orite animal 2friends "ie$ of you)
.: beach>sand>surfI ho$ you feel>$hat do 2!assion>se+)
Ftell her my ans$ers to the same Auestions
T': lonely
,: yello$: noticable>gets attention
-: bird: sees e"erything and can ad"enture far
.: $alk in the sand and $ade in the $ater 2some girls say
',.
they =um! inGU
Fyou are on the beach, $hich is the strongest sensation for you, the
sound of the ocean, seeing the blueness of it, and the sky, or
feeling the sand and $ater on your feet 2find out if she is
auto>kino>"isualD.. tell her that is the !iint of the Auesiton
after you !erfom it, and then ask her if that is $hat she thinks
2$hiche"er she chose) Wkino, audo, "isual test..from here no$ you
kno$ ho$ to direct the rest of your storiesX
F8sychic&abe Auestion: Fstart by lead into no$ my &ritish friend
$ho got !layed 23& Afro story used on Earatebabe)
Fleadin to abo"e.. I $as $ith my &rit friend at lunch today..
FD:ind out if she is kind of !erson that al$ays $ants to kno$
com!lete truth or if it hurts, or you cant do anything about it,
you don't $ant to kno$ T!oint is to see ho$ much she $ill
Auestion your other @:sUD
F!erform 3&Salsa's - Auestions game
F!ick - aniimals and $hy you like themI first animal really is
ho$ you $ant to be second animal is ho$ !eo!le see you
third animal is ho$ you really are
(M)AN FF /o$ get her to kno$ you are a man and can do a
$oman: Ttell stories of ho$ you are around $omen, and $hat
ha!!ens $hen a $oman gets near you 2this fi+es the !roblem I had
$ith 9s. S!arkles in that fucku! re!ort on my $eb!ageU
F!erform ,.yo nani nani and his first street kiss story 2see AS:)
Flead in, my friends friend last $eek $e $ent to Ro!!ongi
because.. 2then into naninani story)
F!erform karatebabe SE67%E on street story in Sao 8aolo
Flead in.. my o$n street SE67%E..
(!erform story about 9r. Smooth and ho$ he Z I many years ago
did 5 E%'s Z '. nums, he can E% e"ery ,1 minutes Tonly do this
one if she is reacting $ell, as it might make her thing you are a
!layboy, so =ust $atch her reaction before doing
thisU
F!erform 3& blit4 attack me story during dance Z ho$ I felt TI
$as $ith 3& ass, and 3& blit4 start grabbing me and $anting me.
but I couldntU
',5
F!erform 3& blit4 $ants to see me night I meet a girl TI had a date
$ith energi4er at my !lace, C!m, 3& blit4 calls at <!m $ants to
see me>fuck.. I couldnt, otherone $as coming so I had to thro$
her out..bummer.. she $as a '1U
F!erform energi4er babe's kiss at the house story Tmeet her, get
her to my !lace, close door, stare in eyes, and then 5 minutes of
!assionate kissing, stri! Z fuck right on the inside door$ay of
the houseG..my most !assionate first dateU
(H)ENTAI FF 8erform the $ierd kinky stuff
F!erform 3& %harlotte story, ho$ she is a closet biFchick and
likes girls>lead in to Alle *; story
Flead in, I $as talking to a good HFfriend in the 7S last $eekend
T*his is from DAlly my lo"eD a 7S *; !rogram..
$hen that Asian chick confesses she is bi and then goes to a
bar $ith Ally( and says Dthe best $ay to really e+cite a guy but
frustate him at the same time is for them to see , girls really get
into each other, and then they do, and then Ally( really $ants to
kiss the asian chick e"en though she isnt bi.. then she goes to her
office the ne+t day and asian chick says you $anted me, didnt
you.. Ally( says yes, and then asian closes the door, gi"es her a
fuck stare, and says, $ell you should find out, and then they
tongue do$n... *hey also had a hilarous S9 seAuence...
sur!rising ho$ much 7S *; has changed since I left that
country..
FAlly 9y Lo"e: this is a $onderful !rogram 2a rare treat from
all the shit that is usually on 7S *;), and has lots of good
stories that can be used in SE67%E..get the "ideos..$atch themGG
and make stories Dyou kno$ $hat I sa$ on *; last $eek(...U
F!erform 3& %3arlotte's friend $ants married guys Dshe cant
ha"eD story Tthis is about 3& %harlotte's friend $ho $ould only
fuck married $omen because single guys $ere too easy, but a
married guy she $as not su!!osed to ha"e, so that is $hy she
$anted it..
F!erform: Dsometimes one li"es at the fringes because it can be
so attracti"eD from Ally my Lo"e 2from the biF*; !rogram
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abo"eD).. ask her about li"ing at the 'fringes' and $hat that might
mean to herU
Fmo"e into !erforming 3& ass doing lots of guys story Tfrom
3& "am! lay re!ort.. 3& ass $as out fucking lots of guys for
fun once last year.. some girls $ho do that..U
F!erform *okyoSE67%ER's -! gyaku SE67%E ro!!ongi story
Tt$o $omen SE67%E'd him in Ro!!ongi and did a -!U
F!erform 3& %harlotte's 'other &: from the office story' 2do \ of
0ur World) TI ha"e my &:, but $hen he is gone, I ha"e my secret
$orld, this other guy 2see 0.W. section on my $ebsite for 0W
scri!tU
F!erform hb blit4 likes her &: because he SE67%E'd in front of
her and treated her like shit Tsee 3& blit4 on my $ebsite for this
storyU
F!erform 3& ass told me her e+ seducet her in micro mini and ho$
it made her feel $hen she $ent out Tactually, I S$asS the De+ bfD
but dont say it $as me in case it scares the chick..so I =ust say her
e+ bf, and if she reacts $ell, I kno$ to do this later..U
F!erform Soubetsukai story $ith me Z trader Z girls $ho say they
cos!lay Z $ant to -! TI $ent to a goodbye !arty at $ork, and
these , girls got drunk, and said ho$ they S9 their &:s an $ear
costumese and shit.. I ask one if she e"er -!'d 2-!eo!le se+), she
says 'no... but I REALL $anted toGD
F!erform office conference, and $hen I say 'sla! her' 2she said
something stu!id) and the first girl says DI do all the timeD, and the
,nd girl $is!ers in my ear Dand I really like itGD other girl
F!erform 3& ass>se+ in the !ark story
F!erform 3& ass and the $indo$ stri! hotel story and ho$ she got
hot $hen she sa$ the mo"ie D*okyo decadanceD Tyou can get it in
7S artsie "ideo sho!sU
(F!erform 3& Afro's sub$ay game Te+hibitionistU
Tsee my $ebsite, control.htm file. 0nly use this if the chick is
reacting $ell, as this may be too much for some $omen..U
(!erform cat$oman attack story Talso on my $ebsiteU
20)7R W0RL6 FF @et her ready for $hat to e+!ect $hen she sees
you ne+t>tonightG:
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Ffind out $hat $ould be her best $ay to meet someone
Ftell her $hat is my $ay as best $ay to meet someone 2this is lead
in)
F!erform *aroFsan's ,nd half of 0W story Tsee my $ebsiteU
EQ A%%ELERA*0RS FF mo"e on to se+y stuff since stage is set
from abo"e storiesG:
F%raig's Dask any AuestionD game, Dlike truth or dare, but no dare..,
cant ask same Auestion asked to you until after , AuestionsD
Fo!ener: ho$ many &:'s ha"e you had(
Fmid': e"er kissed on first date(
Fmid,: e"er had ' nite stand(
(mid-: e"er -!(
..more "arious Auestions, getting dee!er and dee!er 2see belo$)
Fdid you e"er !alm read 2do 0/L that the lo"e line is dee!, or
other SI98LE
&S 2=ust one or , !oints to get the E% setu!)
..getting !hysically closer, hand on her chin
Fcloser: I ha"e a good Auestion for you... $ould you like to kiss
me
Fre!ly after 2ho$ did it make you feel)
F!ost closer, can $e do another one(
Fsome$here at end of date 2but not fuck yet. ie. @ranniebabe) if
$ent far, like tonguedo$n or something, then say, $o$, that $as
really fast, im sur!rised, are you al$ays so Auick...ie to !ace her
so she is not 'scared' to see you the ne+t time.
*his got you to the tongue do$n,no$ take her homeG
If you need more stuff to say, here is e+tra filler stuff you can use
belo$G
9isc e+tra stories if you're still not there yetG
Tthe idea of all these stories and Auestions is that there are ty!es
that co"er ALL areas. So tell each one, and then see $hat she
reacts to the most>the least. *hen you kno$ $hat ty!e of chick you
got, and then kno$ $hat more stories you need to tell her so you
can fuck her.. belo$ are the 's!are' stories I ha"e so far..
Fget stuck(, refer to brit guy getting !layed story..3& Afro
',?
Ftime 3& Ass $ore chou miniF!olice costume for halo$een and
got asked by a sub$ay customer to DarrestD Z cuff him
F!attern>story to seducesh her 2ie. "eiled threat), rather than =ust
seducell her like all these stories do.. 2like Dthe doorD !attern)
TI ha"ent designed this story yet, but I ha"e to make one. In the
meantime, use RH's Dthe doorD !attern, its on AS: some!lace in the
archi"esU
F9s kinky like to be !inned on the ground $hen she $as in elem.
school, it felt good and ho$ she turned out story..a kinky girl
F3& ass's ra!e fanatasy
F$hoisthis's story on his chick $ho SE67%E's other $omen $ith
'I $ant to fuck your friend' 2see AS:, october 11)
F3& "am! $ho =ust $anted a casual relationshi! story 2see my
$ebsite, 3& "am! layre!ortU
Fstory on ho$ I find HF$omen attracti"e T7S $omen act like men,
they are strong, but no se+uality, no '$omanness')
S8ersonals chick $ho lost out because she didnt !ay attention to
me and $as sur!rised story Tthis is to scare the chick into acting..
I used this on karatebabe $hen I laid her.. this !ersonals chick
didnt !ay attention to me, so I ble$ her out and then she $as
sur!risesd I did..she lost her chance, cu4 she re=ected kino, my
other ad"ances, then she $rote back
and $anted to see me again.. I ble$ her out) T=ust a story.. I $ould
ha"e seen her, but this does scare the chick into acting, and letting
you fuck her, because she thinks this $ill be the last time she sees
you other$ise)
Sho$ cultures are different.. the kiss in Sao 8aolo nightclub story
2see AS: archi"es.. I $ent to a club in S.8., and a chick grabbed
me and started to tongue me do$n.. turns out in S.8., all the
$omen do this to all the guysU
SF$omen need attention>treated s!ecial same as guys need se+ 23&
ass disney re"enge by se+ing guys... she $anted disney cu4
s!ecial)
Tsomeho$ a girl $ants to be feel she is 's!ecial'..can be anything,
her 's$eetness', her se+yness..something 2anything) that
distinguishes her from other girls
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F&ossdude likes i4akaya story Ttook my boss to a =a!anese bar 2its
near my !lace..this is the leadin to get $omen to this bar, so they
are close to my !lace so I can fuck them)
FSalsa $ith the bra4ilian chick in Acara=e story
FTI danced a se+y salsa $ith a bra4ilian chick and e"eryone
sto!!ed dancing in the bar to $atch usGU
F9aniac Z 3& ass do the fetish !arty circuit T!ics on mys' !ageU,
this $ild chick I used to 2still) date
FEorea gyaku SE67%E story. TI got Seduce'd by a Eorean chick
in a de!artment
store $hen I $as in EoreaU
F$hoisthis'C's story about describing se+ 2in 11 oct AS: file) ho$
its diff for a girl
Fromance is $oman's !orn story Tfrom AS: archi"es.. romance
sells more than mens !orn mags in the states.. romance is
womans' pornU
Frocks Z gold story 2from AS: archi"es.. men $ant gold 2se+),
$omen $ant gold 2relationshi!s), both are "alueable, but
diamonds are $orse than gold for a guy, and gold is $orse than
diamonds for a girl.. go on into ho$ a girl !laying a guy to LH&:
for dinners is *3E SA9E as $hen a guy takes a girl =ust to fuck
her and kick her
out the ne+t morning.. the same thingGU
Fgyaku nan!a girl in the office.. $hat she is looking for>$hat she
says story Tdescribe $hat your idea of a horny girl isGGU
Fne"er kno$ $ho you meet 2=etbabe, korea girl, sao !aolo girl,mtl
girl)
Tall met these girls by accident on tri!s and fucked>had fun $ith
each of themU
Fstory on ho$ not many guy !ay attention to the $oman during
se+, to make her come..etc 2link $ih $hoisthis'C abo"e story
someho$)
Fleadin: $itches of east$ick and ho$ he gets those girls and !ays
attention to them
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Fgyaku nan!a story in the con"enience store Ta girl tried to
SE67%E me in a con"enience store.. but I $as an A:% then, so
fucked u! a guaranteed layU
Fhb ass's story, so fe$ guys kno$ ho$ to fuck a girl !ro!erly
T3& ass says fucking a guy is easy for achick, but it is really
hard to find a guy $ho can fuck her !ro!erly and make her come,
and that she $ants 2till she met meG) a guy $ho can fuck her
!ro!erlyG
Fstory from 3& ass on $hy slinkyblack liked that !layboy.
Tslinkybabe is a chick $ho sho$ed u! $ith a loser french guy at
a fuck!arty $e held. Slinkyblackbabe and 3& ass got on $ell, and
they $ent out to a bar another time and Slinkyblack $ent for a
!layboy ty!e guy. Sh$e kne$ he $as !layboy but liked him
because e"erytime she came, he sto!!ed talking to the other girls
he $as talking to at the time, and $ould !ay attention to slinky
black. *his made her feel s!ecial. 3e hasnt fucked her yet, but
slinkyblack says that the ne+t time she sees him, she $ants him toU
Flead into ho$ girl $ants to feel s!ecial in front of others
Fgirl I fucked in train station 2e+citement, imseducelsi"e) story
Fgame: there is a * sha!e line, make 5 triangles TI $ill !ost it
sometimeU
Fsomeho$ integrate after>before 'admiration section, something
that sho$s that you $ant to fuck her because you feel she is
s!ecial 2see mrse+.u DRe: tidbitD in /o" ,111 for details. Also
true for 3& slinkyblack storyU
Fmaybe something like I met lots of girls but ne"er been attracted
to anyone so far 2then $hen you mo"e on her2 target), she DthinksD
she might be s!ecial)
Fstory, hb afro $ho liked !ics and making !orn "ids Tits trueGU
FstoryI "! finance in college, made so much moneyG T$e started a
college business, and made alot of money.. for the goldigger
$omenU
Fhi!ho! chick girl I met at fura, she said she $as al$ays so busy,
and ne"er had time, so 'kee! trying to call me'.. a$ays $ith so
many friends. ..it made me =ealousl so make a story like that about
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me too 2e"en though that chick $as 7@L, she made me =ealous
$ith her storyG)
Fmake a story like takoFocean story.. to elicit, sadness, loneliness,
and then ha!iness at the end 2ie. same as mystery's admiration
storys.. a di!, and then a =um! in emotions) Tstories that elicit
emotion ha"e a rise, then a di!, or "isa "ersa, I $ill !ost the takoF
ocean story sometime..it is a good oneU
F!erform ms kinky's 'oasis' story: life is al$ays a fight>struggle,
and relationshi! should be an oasis, from that, some!lace to esca!e
and be comfortable a$ay from the daily stresses and fights of
regular life in the $orld>$ork
FI $oke u! in dorm of girl O college 2cra4y thing I did, res!onse
in Auestion game)
Fstory about ho$ its guy's =ob to !ay attention to the girl, emotion
conneciton> commucaiton at many le"els, as many guys only !ay
attention themself, and not ther !leasure, safety and
comfortableness of the lady.. it shoud be a celebration of
connection bet$een , !eo!le 2mo"e into !ieces of 0W from
here () like I am dancer so I kno$.. my e+ gf told me about it, and
ho$ I am so that is most im!oramt thing in relationshi!.. to !lease
the $oman. *hatJs the mans =ob.
Fstory: im!ortant to me that $oman only does $hat she is
comfortable>safe and that she doesnt ha"e to do anything she
doesnJt feel safe..=ust i $ant her to feel good time to talk, and feel
emotional connection $ith me 2do this before !itch to come to
my!lace and before you reach into her !antiesG)..from 9s. Einky
lay re!ort ( massage story 2ho$ I learned massage in school)(
Tonly do if the chick is reacting $ell.. this could be too o"ert
other$ise.. so in that case, say it is 'your friend' $ho did the class')
F$omen $ho'll fuck on the nan!a "ideos, e"er get a nan!a like
that( $ould you do it( kno$ friends $ho did( $hy you think
$omen find it e+citing
Fkno$ friend $ho did tele!hone clubs( $hy you think they do it(
e+citment( 2they are !hone meeting> then meet to fuck clubsU (
time it $as halo$een and 9r. Lager Z I ran into kinky !arty Tmr.
lager and I $ent to a techno !arty, and ne+tg door $as this kinky
'-,
fetish dress !arty, but $e didnt kno$ because it $as halo$een, so
$e $ent in, and reali4ed the costumes $ere 'e+tra s!ecial'
Ftime I eye fucked 3& &lit4 in salsa, and then she $ent after me
Fkiss on head first as o!ener 2forehead), then go to regular kiss
2say in club SE67%E)
Fbreaku! hb ass story 2ho$ $e lo"e, cry in starbuck, !icture..etc),
ie. make the chick cry by stelling some kind of really sad story
Fbroke u! 2then made u!) $ith 3& ass, and she cried, but then $e
made u!... it $as so s$eet IF) U
Fgyaku girl say I am 'h' 2not sukekbe, $hich is bad), but 'h' $hich
is good, ...my eyes maybe Tonly $orks in Ha!anU
Fstry about ha"ing family kids someday $ith right girl Tfor the
ones $ho $ant to get marriedGU
F3& gimmie story Ta selfish bitch $ho I ble$ out early because I
learned from 3& hot!ants the first time around.. same old shit,
different chick..but she didnt get as far this time..see my $ebsite
for details on 3& hot!antsU
QUESTIONS FOR THE QUESTION GAME:
Fsome girls like !assion start and e+citement, others like romance,
$hich are you 2for Auestions game()
Fha"e you gi"en u! on romance reln, and $ant casual, or still try
romance only(
Fho$ do you feel difference is bet guys and girls seeing
relationshi! 2leadin to rocksFgold)
Fguess: if you had to choose bet$een se+, or friendshi! only in a
relationshi! $ould you choose $hich, or are both im!orant
enough that you]d get another guy(
Fdo you $ant friendshi!, se+, marriage, uncom!licated>no strings(
FE+tra Auestion from . Auestions: Dour $alking along a road
$hen you come to a $all blocking your $ay. What do you do(D
*he ans$er re"eals ho$ she deals $ith dillemas or obstacles in
her life.Ftell me about your first kiss 2then tell her my ideal first
kiss)
F$hen is the first time you kissed anyone and really liked it 2then
tell mine story) Wthen make out after she is doneGX
'--
F2$hen you broke u! last bf, then, $hen $as last time you kissed
guy()
F$hen $as last bf 2so you kno$ ho$ much there's to do)
F$hat clothes style you like for guy 2do during seduce so you kno$
$hat to
$ear during 'st meeting)
FAuestion, $here is most e+citing !lace you had e+citing time $ith
your &:
FAuestion, $here $ould you like most e+citing time $ith your bf
to be(>ho$ 2roofto!..etc()
Fdid you e"er kiss on first date(
Fdid you e"er slee! $ith the guy on the first date(
Fdescribe ho$ it ha!!ened
Fsm( "ibrator( -!( 2Auestions)
(0utstanding todo: must find a $ay to see right at the to! if a chick
is into me right no$ for the fuck, and I can ski! all of the abo"e
ste!s.. ha"ent figured out yet ho$ to do this..
Re: using SS in this D3a"e you e"er had an incredible
connection...blah blahD can $ork, but not all at once.. inters!erce it
bet$een the stories in light
Amounts and I find it $orks $ell. 6oing =ust straight SS I find
either loses the chick, or she thinks you are $ierd. With the stories,
it all $orks :AR more naturally.. 6.Shade and &isho! seem to do
it this $ay as $ell, and it is effecti"e.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FF0E, that is it, this is all I ha"e so far. *his is for A:*ER I did the
original SE67%E. *his is my first attem!t at structuring this as I
ha"e ne"er seen anything organi4ed like this before from start to
end any$here, so here is one.
I am looking for any constructi"e comments on ho$ I canmake
this better, or ideas other !eo!le ha"e. 3o!efully it made sense
e"en though it is so fucking long.
/aninani can use this as a tem!late $hen he talks to girls, so not
he should ne"er $orry about Dne"er anything to sayD again.
9emori4e &F&;@AF6930S 2the headers of the sections) and the
stories, and it takes around ,F. hours de!ending ho$ fast you can
'-.
get the girl going, to finish the SE67%E and tongue do$n>take her
home.
*his $orks best in coffeesho! ty!e SE67%E settings.
/o idea ho$ it $orks in bars 2!robably not $ell, too loud, and
takes too long), ne"er tried it there.
/o$ I am looking for *okyoSE67%ER to make one of these for
his street SE67%Es, and $hoisthis'C to make one for his -!
SE67%Es, and others to make regular SE67%E structures, if they
ha"e any ideas 2for me at least, ha"ing a clear structure like this
makes a 37@E difference for me in SE67%E, or I =ust stall. Since
I ha"e been doing this, I ha"e ne"er stalled in the !ost ':indF9eet'
situation.
%onstructi"e ideas>comments>criticisms a!!reciatedG
Example of an ASF reader followomh Maniac's SEDUCE
Guide and results!
Sub=ect: maniac, e"eryone here^s a kiss close first date.
I met this girl on december -1 last date of $ork at the com!any I
$ork for. she $as talking to a friend of mine and I a!!roch them
say hello to my friend and then to her.
$hen I sa$ her a cou!le of hours later alone I asked her ho$ long
had she kno$n my friend, I started asking her $hat she usually
does on $eekends, fa"orit ty!e of mo"ies,artist,music,....
she ga"e me her !hone number and I told her that I $as !robably
going to the beach that $eekend, but if not I $ould gi"e her a call.
I ga"e her a call on =anuary ' after telling her a cou!le of =okes
about ne$ year^s day I set u! the date at < !m 2usually the sun sets
at B here in $inter and at ? !m on summer) I met her at a sho!!ing
center near $here she li"es. $hen i sa$ her i told her first Dha!!y
ne$ yearD and hug her to start the kino. $e got in my car and
$ent to a coffee>bar sho!.
$hen $e $ere in the car i started talking to her about last night
!arties, but she looked kind of uncomfortable i started talking
about music, artist she had told me se liked. at the coffee sho! i
chose a four chair table and i sat ne+t to her. i told her ho$ nice is
to ha"e someone to share the free time if she^d had a boyfriend she
got along $ith !retty $ell, after hearding her story i started telling
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her my fa"orit lo"e story Da real oneD at my $ork a ha"e a friend
$ho^s sister used to $ork there she $ent to california for some
trainnig and met a guy there they started to send eFmails to each
other, he came to this com!any for a month they $ent out in
california,and $ent out $hen he came do$n here. he $ent back
and after a cou!le of months they decided to get merried they got
merried and $ent to li"e in california. $ell this is the story, of
course the $ay i usually tell it to girls sounds more interesting,
besides $hen i told them about $hen they $ent out i start to use
some ss ti!s from ross like: as she ke!t talking to her she notice she
liked the sound of his "oice, she notice they ha"e the same likes,
dislikes, about mo"ies music, kind of the same goals and !robably
that^s $hy the get along $ith each other "ery $ell.
you kno$ you ne"er kno$ $hen>$here you can meet someone that
^s gonna change your life. it $as kind of hard to start the kino
since she had her arms crossed. but she looked as if she $ere
daydreaming after hearding the story. she $as $earing a cou!le of
golden rings so i touch them and said, there nice so she uncrossed
her arms i started to hold her hand and said your skin is real soft i
^m sure you don^t do de dishes. se laughs. l let her hand go. finish
our drinks.
$e $ent for a $alk. i sto!!ed out side of the coffee sho!. there
$as a !icture of gloria stefan on the $all, one of her fa"orite
singers I offer my arm
a la french $hile !ointing $ith my other hand at the !icture.
and continue $alking i $as $earing a collar>button bu short slee"e
shirt as she $as holding my arm she started to rob it a little bit and
laid it against her tit. a took her to a sou"eniers sho! started
looking at the things on the $indo$, slo$ly raised my hand to
!oint at a seduce!!et like toy that $as on to! so she had to let go
of my arm $hile i $as asking her if she like that one a took her
hand. And continue $alking, i head to an area near by $ere there
are usually some cou!les kissing. at that time ?FC!m. i sto!!ed the
$alking and told her. you kno$ $hen i used to li"e in usa a friend
taught me that $hen they meet an s!ecial !erson in euro!e they let
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her kno$ it $hith a hug and a kiss on the cheek, so i did that i $as
starting to get a little ner"ous since this $as one of my first
e+!iriences using this ti!s. after that i started to hold both her
hands. and started to get my body closed to hers. no resistence. i
ask her. are you a romantic girl( she said she $as i tried to kiss her
she looked to the side a"oiding the kiss. i started to kiss her
cheek,neck,hear. /o resistence, i started $hile kissig her cheek to
get closer to her mouth, she looked to the side again, so i started to
kiss the corner of her mouth. i told her i^"e ha"e i $onderful time
$ith you tonight.
she looked at me and lean for$ard so i started to kiss her
!assionetly.
ke!t $alking,french kissing. it $as like '1 !m she said she had to
go home kno$ since she $as going some $here $ith her mom
early. so i took her home.
i $as able to lay her t$o $eeks later.
ok i li"e in guadala=ara me+ico the second biggest city famous
formariachi,beautiful girls and teAuila 2there^s a small to$n an
hour a$ay called teAuila $here teAuila originated. that^s $here the
name comes from) so my first language is s!anish. guadala=ara is
four hours from seduceerto "allarta. a beach cro$ded all year
round $ith turist from usa and canada.
Maniac talks about how/why the 'ManiacPlan' works!
Sub=ect: Re!ly to Ash's !ost about 9aniac 8lan
Random thoughts and re!lies..
es, getting A69IRA*I0/ $as a key disco"ery. I disco"ered it
looking at mystery's stories, and seeing that they $ere all things
that uni"ersally made a chick admire you 2esca!ing bears, unaided
rock climbing after a ro!e break..,etc), !lus remembering ho$
goldigger chick got into me $hen I told her about my stock
in"esting and making money from it.
yes, admiration before se+Faccels..etc, is critical..or you go
no$here.. *hat $as the !roblem $ith the chick I failed that other
night.. I =ust couldnt get her to admire me at the start for anything,
so then nothing else after $orked at all..
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ReI stories to get sad, then ha!!y.. it elicicits a strong emotional
res!onse I find, and is a good $ay to initiate e"en more hea"y kino
$hen you are telling the story. Look at the mo"ie DghostD.. it is so
sad, but then the end, so nice.. it is an intense emotional reaction
for $omen, and that makes them succe!tible to $hat you say ne+t..
Re: Stories that work -vs dont work in seduction
All stories must ha"e a goal in mind. When you make a story, you
must be able to say to yourself Dthe seducer!ose of this story is to
make the chick feel> kno$> e+!erience +++D. If you cant do that
$ith a gi"en story, then change>ditch the story. *his is ho$ I chose
my stories or modified them to get the desired effect.
Hust think things that you $ould like to tell directly to the chick:
ie: Fif you dont fuck me tonight, then you lose your chance
FI am a good lay and you $ill en=oy it
Fyou can trust me
Fyou feel close and comfortable $ith me
Fyou $ant me
Fyou admire me dee!ly
FI can choose from many $omen and many $omen $ant me,
and that $ill make you $ant me e"en more, so take your chance
$hen I make my mo"e
Fme $anting you is a fulfills your self$orth..$ithout that you
are nothing
Fyou are lonely and $ant someone 2me) to hold you, kiss you
touch you
Fimagine the !leasure of kissing, the e+citement of touching and
feeling each other directly
/o$ you cannot =ust say any of the abo"e directly to a chick. She
$ill tell you to fuck off, hit you and then $alk out of the bar..
&ut if you tell stories $hich has as their !oints each of those abo"e
items, then she $ill internali4e it and belie"e it. If you look at all
my stories in D9aniac 8lanD, you $ill see, that each one has a
seducer!ose>message like the abo"e. *hat is $hy the stories $ork.
Re: did I memori4e all of that in D9aniac !lanD. 0f course not IF)
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I only memori4ed $here some of stories in each section go. Since
they are all my stories though, of course I didn't need to memori4e
the stories themsel"es, $ith e+ce!tion of mysterys, they are all !art
of my life already and really ha!!ened.
Each time I do a SE67%E, I only remember to do about '>, the
things on the list, and ski! around alot, de!ending $hat I
remember as I do the SE67%E.
Re: D0ne idea in the 9aniac 8lan I hadn't heard before is telling
lots of different se+ual stories to try to diagnose $hat the girl's
kink is, if she has one. I'm a bit sur!rised you tell so many of these
stories during a sargeI do you rarely get a bad reaction( D
maniac re!lies:
It $orks because I dont do it at the start. :irst I do . Auestions to
get her to a dee!er state Z the age regression. *hen I start $ith the
nani nani story, and mo"e on to the karatebabe SE67%E, and the
kiss in the Sao 8aolo bar story. /o$ the transition is done from
regular boring fluff, to the intimate stuff, so it $orks. Sometimes
the $omen dont react, or react kind of bad.. $hen that ha!!ens, I
sto!, and do more regular stories, or distance them from me 2ie. my
friend, rather than me), then try again later, or $ait till the Auestion
game, and then introduce the stories as !art of the Auestions I>her
ask each other, then it $orks better and is more natural..
Re: *easing 2in Ash's !ost)
9y thoughts here are that the teasing $ere a good e+cuse to start
kino, thats all. *he kino is $hat got the lay, and not the teasing
itself 2$hich $as =ust a tool to start the kino). 9y o!inion only
though..ne"er tried this.. *hough I am in my -1s, so I dont really
go around tackling $omen often IF)
Re: seducer!ose of Dbritish guy getting !layed by the girlD..
seducer!ose is to defend against her calling you a !layboy because
you brought it u! first on the conte+t of a girl !laying a guy and
ho$ sad it $as. I started to do this because $omen $ould
sometimes ask if I am a !lay boy 2huh me IF) ). basically, this story
is an innoculant.
Re: $ill she !ass me u! if she is a !layer if I use this story(
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9aniac re!lies:
0h, here is the catch.. first I =udge the chick.. if she looks like the
!layer ty!e, I 60/* use the british guy story, because this $ould
disAualify me as the !layer she is looking for. If she doesnt look
like the !layer ty!e though, and looks like the ty!e $ho might
Auestion me about being a !layboy, then I $ill use it.
Re: our$orld
Sub=ect: Re: Women e+!ecting a fuck( re: mrse+.unyc, 4i!=ack
I am a bit curious as to more the dynamics that are going on inside
a chick's head in such situations, $hich is $hy I brought it u!..
that's the !oint of *3IS W30LE S3I* maniac.
there ARE /0 6/A9I%S to a $oman's head.
a $oman follo$s her emotions.
you %REA*E her emotions and she $ill naturally 6ESIRE to act
on them 2or ha"e07 act on her)
you can not *3I/E that their minds $ork analytically like ours do.
it's a *0*ALL different !rocess.
she stands in front of the t" $hen the football game is on. $e think
D*3IS &I*%3 3AS S@0*S *0 @E* 07* :R09 I/ :R0/* 0:
*3E *;GD
you don't bring her flo$ers. she doesn't think Dthis guy needs to go
out and get me some flo$ersD she thinks D3E 60SE/'* L0;E
9E A/ 90RE...
IS I* 9 WEI@3*(... IS 3E %3EA*I/@...D
see( it doesn't make any sense because S3E gets an E90*I0/
from actions and $ords, then she acts on that, $hereas WE act on
the facts of the situation.
that's $hy she can't tell you about !rocesses. some things you did
made her naturally feel like being kissed then feel like being felt u!
then feel like being fucked. she ne"er L0@I%ALL assumed that
you $ere going to do it, but $hen you did it, she liked it and $as
confortable enough $ith you /0* to sto! you.
Subject: Re: Advice please...date ends and time for KC
$hen I feel like feeling you u!... you get felt u!
$hen I feel like kissing you, you kiss me back
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$hen I $ant head you suck my dick... "enus, does that make sense
to you(
6o you gi"e this to the chick in these $ords( 3A3A3A3A no!eG
:)
too mechanical. too many :A%*S... $omen can't !rocess facts...
they need emotions...
$hat you do is L70*E them stories about girls that denied you
and got canned immediately... midFdate or $hate"er... they get the
!icture so that $hen it's time for some action, they kno$ to start
!acking their fucking bags if they don't get $ith you... they
E/0W there is no $ay that you are going to $aste any more time
$ith them instead of being $ith a se+y chick...
I must say though I am mulling o"er outfo+er's comments and
intend on re!lying to them $hen I get a clear fi+ on $hat I think.
his stance totally contradicts mine on this issue and I can't see right
no$ $hich one is the best for me.
Subject: Re: be prepared to walk
. A $oman $ould be ha!!y being friends $ith a manneAuin if it
had an engaging !ersonality and met her emotional needs. And
then, if and only if, they like the
!ersonality, they might s$itch that ob=ect into a se+ual being and
!ercei"e it as he truly is.
es, its scary to !ercie"e men as se+ual beings unless thtere's no
connection. *his e+!lains $hy assholes get $omen easily....its not
threatening.
9ost heterose+ual men can't or $on't do that. We !ercei"e $omen
as se+ual beings first and may or may not get around to noticing
and engaging their !ersonality.
It is incredible to me that its taken me so long to truly reali4e this.
We get our !rimary emotional !ayoff from se+ and a secondary
!ayoff from com!anionshi!. We need se+ to "alidate us and allo$
us to e+!erience lo"ing feelings. Women are $ired in the o!!osite
fashion. *hey need lo"ing feelings to "alidate them and allo$ them
to e+!erience se+.
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Well, $e are !aranoid in general about se+ because many many
men trash and dehamani4e $omen $ho ha"e se+ $ith the,. if you
guys really en=oy se+ try being cool to the $omen $ho se+ you.
/either $ay, by itself is good, and both can be degrading,
e+!loitati"e and
dehumani4ing.
....another thing I ne"er reali4ed....W0WG
I ne"er thought a guy could consider himself DusedD in this $ay
and I had no idea it $as so degrading. I don't think most $omen
reali4e this, and its a good thing because $e'd ne"er talk to any of
you anymoreG
I90, the reason the guys turn off and gi"e you the cold shoulder is
because you're negating their humanity. *hey e"entually reali4e
that they're =ust ob=ects $ith a !ersonality to be e+!loited for
entertainment seducer!oses, and they, rightfully, get a bit miffed
about it.
If a $oman is faithful to one man is she negating the humanity of
all other men she meets thereafter( I don't think so.
Any$ay, the attitude abo"e describes the $ay $omen feel about
se+.
*hey're seducetting out and meeting your emotional needs $ithout
getting the
emotional !ayoff that's meaningful to them. Let me ask you Eate,
ho$ long and ho$ hard $ould you $ork for somebody $ho
refused to !ay you for your time and effort in a currency that had
meaning to you(
/ot long. *he thing is, there needs to be some middle ground.
ou guys ha"e to understand that se+ WREAES 3A;0% on a
$oman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur
e+!erience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a
$oman to take significant emotional risks =ust to ha"e se+ $ith you
first off is alot more than you may reali4e.
Eate
Subject: Responsibility
6ear Ale+,
I'm glad I unFkillfiled Eate F check this out:
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Dou guys ha"e to understand that se+ WREAES 3A;0% on a
$oman's brain and body. I don't think its the same high calibur
e+!erience for men and they can forget more easily. Asking a
$oman to take significant emotional risks =ust to ha"e se+ $ith you
first off is alot more than you may reali4e.
EateD
And:
Dou guys talk about chick logic all the time. Its really all about
$omen's total denial that they are going to be in"ol"ed in a se+ual
situation at all. &asically, if a $oman faces u! to the !hysical
mental and social im!lications of ha"ing se+ she'll end u! hiding in
her room for -1 years, so she denies it and then Dit =ust kind of
ha!!ennedD.
/o$, i for one, ne"er took this a!!roach, but for "igilance I !aid in
!aranoia. its =ust not as easy for $omen. Its ne"er D=ust se+D.D
@ot it(
Regards,
;ince
:or some reason I $as thinking a $oman in her -1s $ouldn't be
afraid to let herself take the res!onsibility for ha"ing se+, but I
guess they're not all like that, es!ecially $hen it comes to firstF
night se+.
Ale+
Sub=ect: Re: /eed the @rou!'s Wisdom Z E+!erience
MrSex4uNYC writes on Ray's 'Returning Fox Theory:
At the first sign of disres!ect to you 0R !assing u! an o!!ortunity
to s!end time $ith you, you dum! her. $hen she calls you
$anting to go out or something, you tell her that her beha"ior $as
unacce!table and that the only $ay you are going to let her hang
out $ith you again is if she Tmake u! $hate"er shit you $ant her
to do because she broke the rulesU 2ie. fucking>sucking..etc F ed
/oteI 9aniac)
if all you $ant from her is a kiss, get that. if all you $ant is for
her to dress se+ily, make her do that. if she doesn't agree to your
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terms tell her don't call you again until you are ready to meet my
demands and 3A/@ 78.
the !oint of returning fo+ is that she is cra$ling back to you so
you ha"e the 80WER in the relationshi!.
Rio introduces a key part of SEDUCE: the 'Statement of
Intent' (SOI)!
Sub=ect: :ind Stun 6rag :uck
@'day,
Rio, ho$ do you do things differently no$, based on $hat you'"e
said(
:irst thing $ould be to think about the close. 9ystery kno$s his
grou! $ork !erfect from ho$ I read it, and I ha"e been using his
methods to great success socialF!roof $ise.
*he &I@ thing that clocked in my head $as the need to S*A*E
07R I/*E/*I0/S
to the chick $ithin the first minute of meeting her. I $ill make that
my rule from no$ on F as $ith the - second rule.
&y this I 60/'* mean DLet's fuckD or D%ome to 8a!a babyD or any
thro$Fa$ay shit like that. It has to be an honest assessment of $hat
07 feel ca!able of doing to the chick after the D3iD and the first
round of fluff>routine 2routine !referred F something humourous).
@9 does this !art &EA7*I:7LL, because he does it $ith a
sense of fun and humour F and 3E E/0WS he is going to do $hat
he says and so does S3EG
I notice 9r. Se+ states this a lot in his !ast !osts F $here A:% or
shit SE67%ER s do a!!roaches and talk to the chick, but ne"er get
to the !oint A/6 the bitch can tell that the guys $ant to fuck but
are too seducessy to go for it.
Ross says something to the tune of DAnd maybe $e could really
get to like each otherD $hen he closes in 3*@*W6I&. I also
recall that *okyoSE67%ER did a
statement of intentions on that chick he SE67%Eed at night once
$ho $as initially scared of him. Hohnny Shack does it by $hen he
=ust s!rings dates on $omen he =ust met.
So there's some cross references.
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*he !ro!er methodological $ay to get to a statement of intentions
!art is by !ace and lead. &ut the !oint of the matter is, you ha"e to
structure the con"ersation to sho$ interest and intent ;ER soon
or you $ill stall, chick $ill get bored, feel teased, and then it's
%Z& time. &elie"e me, a L0* of %Z& e+!erience $ith a L0* of
30* $omen has so far has taught me this !ainful lesson.
*he best $ay to seducet it is in the most honest $ay !ossible. I
cannot gi"e you a s!ecific e+am!le. &ut the idea is to get her
thinking romantically about you ;ER soon. *3E/ you 3A;E
*0 60 W3A* 07 SAI6 you $ould do to the chick after 66&.
2E.g. If you $ant to start things off gently by holding her hand, tell
her a scene $here $ant to be holding her hand F and then do it in
the ne+t routine after she is comfortable $ith this.) If you do /0*
60 $hat you say you $ill, e"entually your congruence $ill fuck
u! $hen the chick loses !atience. *hen the chick $ill be confused,
get scared, and bolt. If this e"er ha!!ens and the guy tries to do
hea"y kino or try for a fuck $hile the chick is in this state F It's
gonna be RA8E.
In fact, on the matter of Ra!e. I read in %osmo 23ey, 9y chick
gets fucked often and S*ILL reads thisG) that !sychologists
WAR/ $omen against guys that say D%ome to my !lace to see my
!icturesD etc. $hen the idea is to fuck the chick $hilst your
intentions aren't kno$n to her F because it is 6A*E RA8E.
*hus as 9aniac found out ages ago, that @R07/6W0RE is the
key element to getting the chick o"er to fuck. *hat can be done
through S*A*E9E/* 0: I/*E/*I0/S F and may not
necessarily ha!!en through Eiss closes.
ou must remember this F a kiss is =ust a kiss........
I: that $orks, *3E/ $e can re$ard her $ith more con"ersation
and more 9ystery style routines or $hate"er 2because she is 0E
$ith our intentions then F thus the re$ards), and *3E/ u! the ante
some more $ith our S*A*E9E/* 0: I/*E/*I0/S, building
on $hat $e established before F to get her more hot and horny than
before. So you may ha"e started on holding her hands, no$ you
may !rogress on to hugging, kissing, fucking etc. $hate"er seems
to be the
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most logical !rogression from her actions to$ards you.
8atterns, routines, !sych tests, $ill hel! greatly during the chat
routines inFbet$een statements of intentions. *hose are $hat set us
a!art from the other SE67%ER s out there.
E"entually $e get to a !oint $here the chick is 66&, then $e can
get to the 6rag 2you must take the $oman to fuck location, or ha"e
her so into you that she $ill come to you) and :uck !art 2in our
$orld of course). *he 0ur World routine $ould then be the
7L*I9A*E in the S*A*E9E/* 0: I/*E/*I0/S series $hich
$ould then lead to the deal fuck closed. It is in this one that you
state your relationshi! e+!ectations and seducet it in D0ur WorldD
/o$ the method is :ind, Stun, 6rag, :uck.
*he !oint is F :7%E all this bullshit about the $oman needs to
be done in the Dright $ayD to match her "alues. Something tells me
no$ that a $oman made this comment as an attem!t to rationali4e
her unreasonable emotions.
*he "alues she $ants ALL AL0/@ is #' SEQ, and to a lesser
e+tent #, to be taken care of after SEQ. *hat goes for A/ $oman
2thus the uni"ersality of the $hole !rinci!le). When the guy comes
along as does her, she $ill rationalise that the guy understood
e+actly $hat she felt. *hat's $hat some religious $omen mean
$hen they beautifully say D@od kne$ $hen it $as the right time
for meD. In reality, they E/0W 6EE8 60W/ they are at the
mercy of guys and $hat they $ant to do $ith her. *o her, that is
DdestinyD and no $onder so many $omen are suckers for fortuneF
telling and the like.
Eliciting is $hen you $ant to # close or coffee close and check
the girl out for relationshi! !otential. If it's 0/S F heyG ya don't
need itG If you cannot attem!t a kiss to fuck close in the gi"en
situation F you $ill ha"e to # close, but not forget to state that your
intentions could $ell get beyond =ust coffeeG
*he other thing F DMake no excuses for desires as a man" is
*3E SI/@LE 90S*
I980R*A/* *3I/@ 2As Ross Heffries has already said) but I
had to e+!erience it myself to belie"e it. ALL of $hat I e+!lained
abo"e IS 7SELESS in !ractical a!!lication if you are trying to
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follo$ it like a scri!t. *he idea is to @RA& that girl and /0* let
her get a$ayG I) So guys, 30W 97%3 60 07 WA/* *3A*
@IRL( W3A* ARE 07 8RE8ARE6 *0 60(
Also on that note. &E A :7%EI/@ 9A/. Act like a guy, and
don't think that mirroring a girl com!letely is going to make you
attracti"e to her. I kno$ from e+!erience that the more ca"eman I
go $ith $omen $ho E/0W my intentions, the more they res!ond
se+ually.
*alk to $omen as if you $ere telling your kid brother ho$ to !lay
football !ro!erly, cause your kid brother ha!!ens to be shit at
football. I es!ecially like the $ay 9r. Se+ talks to us on AS: F
gi"ing !ointers and $hatFnot. I'm sure he talks to $omen e+actly
the same $ay IRL R sho$ing congruence all along.
ou can e"en get around the language barrierG I =ust about
dragged a se+y Hgirl in a bikini off the beach $hile babbling to
them in EnglishG A language they didn't e"en understandG I did that
enough and $ith a smile, that the chick $ent 66& and ready to
@0 $hen I took her hand. 3ad it not been for the cockblockG
Somebody must ha"e taught the DIranian from hellD this shitG
*he $ay I think about it is much like ca"eman se+. ou see the hot
chick, you bang her on the head $ith your club, you take her to
your ca"e, you root her. *hus :F :ind Stun 6rag :uck.
Hust a bit more aggressi"e than :ind 9eet Attract %lose, but that's
the best $ay I could describe $hat this uglyFasFfuck SE67%ER
$as doing.
*hese $ere the attitudes that I had $hen I $as only =ust starting
to seducell $omen at incredible s!eeds $hile on holiday.
*he other !oint is on 0b=ection handling in regards to the
S*A*E9E/* 0: I/*E/*I0/S. What I learned from the
SE67%ER I met, is that you fight chick
bullshit $ith your o$n bullshit F $ith a slightly authoriti"e tone
2no need to REALL get !issed).
:or e+am!le :F *he $omen said DWe ha"e to get to our carD and
$ere ready to
Lea"e *he 8layboy said Dou can't lea"e any$ay because the
gates are closedD e"en
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though the gates aren't closed.
*hus this co"ers handling chick bullshit F on the !hone as $ell as
in real life. And one chick on another seduction board I read often
ty!ed something to the tune that she $ants to be $ith a guy that
can bullshit his $ay into her !ants.
So there you go. :ind Stun 6rag :uck.
Stun is the hardest.
*here are reasons $hy most of us ste! through seduction so
gingerly.
We kno$ that saying or doing one $rong thing can blo$ u! the
seduction.
As far as I can tell, letting her kno$ you intend to fuck her before
you fuck her is one of those things. Another reason is that $omen
$on't tell you $hen they're ready to fuck.
&ut 66& does tell allG
*hat single most common fucku! is $hat is called LA%E 0:
%0/@R7E/%E 2definition courtesy of 9r. Se+). Hust like $hen I
called that chick I met yesterday Dmy friendD in front of her. 6oing
that is a sign of $eakness. Women can get a$ay $ith ha"ing
$ords out of congruence $ith their actions, but guys %A//0*.
ou say that $hen you Dlead girls onD and tease them too much,
you look easy and they hate you. &ut this insight doesn't make it
any easier to recogni4e $hen you're Dleading them onD. *he
$indo$ bet$een $hen a $oman is rece!ti"e to a close and $hen
you'"e stalled her is short, and s!otting it seems to be harder than
su!erstring theory. *he ans$er seems to be to make hundreds of
a!!roaches, and "ery slo$ly im!ro"e through e+!erience.
Well you ha"e body language and other subtle !ointers. 8lus $e
are adding all the time to our S*A*E9E/* 0: I/*E/*I0/S in
order to find a barrier and cut off !oint. I don't doubt that noticing
66& $hen you ha"e the intuition becomes easier.
*he one concrete thing I get out of your !ost is
that ne+t time t$o 3&s $ant a foursome $ith you and your L*R,
you'll be more likely to recogni4e it. 0r maybe the situation $ill
be different enough that you $on't.
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I fucked that u! because I E/0W those $omen $anted me to go
$ith them, and
I o"erFteased them and didn't ca!itulate and then state my
intentions to ha"e a foursome. *hey $ould ha"e been u! for itG
*hat's $hen the 8layboy sho$ed u! to sho$ me the shit, and then
beat me handsFdo$n in a round of *3E @A9E. I)
ou also said, D/o$ I realise more than fucking E;ER $hat a
chick $ants. She $ants a guy to go and @E* her, make her feel
$anted, and then ha"e the shit fucked out of herGD &ut you agreed
$ith another !oster that you can't =ust $alk u! to a $oman and say
DLet's fuck.D
So $hat's your ne$ insight here(
It's a noFbrainer. Is se+ ALL you bringing to the table( *hat's $hy
he cou!led @9 styled intention !ointers further into the seduction
2after the earlier @Frated ones), and then $hen they succeeded in
not ob=ecting, he $ent to 9ystery routines as a re$ard 0R to the
6rag !hase if they $ere 66&.
ou cannot start the seduction $ith a statement of intention that
ski!s the buildu! F unless the chick is *3A* :7%EI/@ 30R/
and shameless.
Women $ant to kno$ that you care about them as human beings
and not =ust se+ ob=ects. *hus neutral con"ersation gets smattered
in bet$een, and the final statement of intentions clearly sho$s
$hat his intentions are so S3E E/0WS that you care about her
feelings F in that $ay.
*he 8layboy I met e"en $ent to see a chick he had a threesome
$ith the ne+t day 2cause she $as feeling a bit alone). *his guy $as
no chea! D8layerD
2$hich he !ointed out in his great 0ur $orld styled close routine
on this C). ou could tell he cared enough too.
3a"e you figure out a better $ay to kno$ $hen a $oman is ready
to be closed( 0r a faster $ay to get her to $ant to fuck( 0r a
$ay to let her kno$ your intentions $ithout scaring her off(
What's the difference bet$een your a!!roach no$ and your
a!!roach before you $ent to @uam( It sounds like you feel you
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understand things better than you did before, but I can't figure out
$hat the ne$ understanding is.
Well, no$ you ha"e your ans$er.
9ind you, I'm only getting the frame$ork no$ that I sit do$n and
try and e+!lain $hat I am no$ doing. *his shit became automatic
$hen I had the $hole e+!erience of $itnessing this guy and
learning from him.
Any Auestions or comments( :ire a$ay....
Rio
Subject: Re: Find Stun Drag Fuck Statement Of Intentions
(SOI)
DRioD $rote:
Well, no$ you ha"e your ans$er.
eah, I understand much better no$. *hanks for $riting it do$n.
Any Auestions or comments( :ire a$ay....
So I get the abstract idea no$: 9ake some sort of Statement 0f
Intentions 2S0I) to a $oman relati"ely early, and then act
congruently $ith it.
9ore or less, that's it.
*he thing is, after dro!!ing routines F get to it or the chick gets
confused and dro!s out.
9ystery had the right idea $ith his routines and intros. &7* if you
fail to State your intentions F you can stall things and stale her out.
*hen it $ill be your fault $hen it a!!ears that the routines don't
$orkG *hey may ha"e $orked, but she has gi"en u! on you as a
!artner already. ou teased too much.
Like most !eo!le, though, I don't really understand any abstract
idea until I'"e seen t$o or three concrete e+am!lesI i.e. 30W to
make that S0I.
Ross Heffries has already co"ered ho$ to do this $ith his /L8
!acing and leading. I'm =ust gi"ing a name to the end result of
doing that 2S0I F Statement of Intention).
S0Is are S0 im!ortant to $omen. *hey $ant to kno$ $here they
stand. Women you are $ith and ha"en't S0Ied $ill think to
themsel"es :F DWhat am I to himD(
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With my L*R $hich I slo!!ily S0Ied, she annoyed me for ages if
I $as her boyfriend or not. I hadn't said, and $as therefore $alking
thin ice.
*hat dro"e her /7*S.
/o$, I guess I could sho$ you some fake e+am!les of stuff that
you could launch into your SE67%E F but the reason $hy I'm not
going to do that is because if A/&06 creates a list of them F
$e're going to get the !roblem that A:% men ALREA6 ha"e
$ith SE67%E Lines. *hat is, thro$ing meaningless $ords into a
con"ersation and then not being able to back them u!.
Either that, or $e $ill de"elo! a single street !icku! routine $hich
men $ill use the $orld o"er $ith great success before $omen
cotton on to it.
When it comes to S0I, 6I 2damn all these acronymnsG).
An e+am!le of S0I is $hat I said to the chick I tried to SE67%E
on the $eekend.
I !aced it to the !oint $here $e are talking about $here $e li"ed,
and I found out that she li"ed close. *hen I said D*hat's good, so
$e can get together really easy and ha"e some fun then.D
If she had been far a$ay F no !roblem D*hat's too bad. I'll ha"e to
tra"el far to get together $ith you and ha"e funD
If she li"es on 9ars F no !roblem DWo$G ou li"e out thereG I'll
ha"e to build a rocket to come and see you after you go back
thereGD
So there you go. Who needs to be e+cessi"ely @9( ou ga"e the
e+am!le of @9 style. e!, @9 makes a !retty clear S0I. I don't
think a Dreco"ering nice guyD like me could do @9 congruently,
though.
I ha"e done it once successfully and it Suuure $orks. &ut yes, it's
hard to $ork things u! to that because you ski! a lot of buildu!
ste!s. *he flirting has to take !lace in a se+ual le"el rather than a
much safer le"el. *hat is risky.
*hat's $hat I mean $hen by saying DLet's :uckD you run the risk of
ha"ing to flirt at such a high le"el $here you can fuck u! easily.
/ot that it's
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im!ossible of course. /E@s 2$hich I forgot to mention before)
hel! es!ecially in the
ob=ection,flirt !hase. *his !hase is like the !art $here the dog
chases after the bitch to try and fuck her, and the bitch kee!s
running. *he thrill of the chaseG
ou mention *okyoSE67%ER and Hohnny Shack references, but
it $ould take a lot of searching>guessing to find the s!ecific
e+am!les you ha"e in mind. And I don't understand your Ross
e+am!le F DAnd maybe $e could really get to like each otherD
sounds like a !retty "ague S0II maybe I'd understand $hat you
mean if I kne$ the conte+t(
Search for stuff on the archi"ed layguide for stuff about Hohnny
Shack. 3e also has an online book. Ross has his old free book
around the !lace. Search :ormhandle for *okyoSE67%ER's !osts.
&y the $ay, I e"en $ent as far as reading ALL of 9ystery's decent
!osts as $ell.
*he only e+am!le of an S0I I see in your !osts is this one from
@uam SE67%ER:
As for going for the fuck close( :orget your se+ual accelerators.
*his guy said the $hole shit in !lain English F and I sa$ him say
this all to to a chick. 3e basically said that he $as a !layboy, but
not a !icku! artist 2to frame the idea that he $on't fuck and dum!),
and that $hen he had se+ $ith the chick 2:raming it as if it's going
to ha!!en) that she should =ust en=oy it for fun and not $orry about
it too much because it's =ust their !ri"ate thing 2our $orld style
routine), and that he $as not an easy guy in reality F that he $as
Auite selecti"e in $ho he chooses for se+ 2so he doesn't look like a
meatFmarket man).
3e said all this straight faced to a chick, and $hile I $as $atching
the chick he did this on F she $as trancing out and !laying $ith her
hair. It $as totally e"il.
So my Auestions...
3a"e you e"er done a S0I to kiss a girl and not had her ob=ect( If
so, $hat did you say( 3a"e you e"er done a S0I to fuck a girl
and not had her ob=ect( If so, $hat did you say( 3ell, do you
remember the e+act $ords of any S0I you'"e e"er said(
'5,
I ga"e you an e+am!le abo"e of an S0I abo"e 2$here I told the
chick that $e $ould hang out in the future). /o doubt $e can
refine the $hole shit a lot better in the future.
And yes. I think e"eryone at some stage has done an S0I, or the
body language has been good enough to get her into that 4one
$here she E/0WS maybe at B1Y $here your intentions are, $ith
or $ithout any routines to hel! snag the chick, and the chick has
seducet u! some token resistance. *he seducer!ose of the
resistance of course, is to set the scene for the chase you kno$ $ill
end in a fuck if you can =ust reel the bitch in. ou $ill e"entually
do it as long as you ha"e remained congruent throughout.
What other kinds of S0Is $ould you use in the buildu!( *ell her
you're going to gi"e her a neck massage( 2I'm sure that Auestion
sounds cluelessI but I really think the meat is in the details.)
Well !ace it:F
D3a"e you e"er felt like ha"ing a neck massage( I think you need
one, so I'll gi"e you oneD
Sometimes the more direct your S0Is are, the harder she $ill force
you to kee! seduceshing them.
So let's say the chick flirts and says DWhy do you $ant to( I don't
need oneGD
So $e ha"e to S0I her again in the second sentence in this
e+am!le :F DWell you ha"en't had one of my massages that can
make you feel good all o"er. /o$ rela+ ...D
*he idea is to tra! the chick at all costs $ith your intentions that
you can carry out F until she can't get a$ay.
E"en D/o I can'tGD Des you canGD D/o I can'tGD Des you canGD
fights R if that's $hat it comes do$n to F can $in you the day if
you !ersist and not let her $inG ;erbal arguments can al$ays be
sol"ed $ith kino F cause you as the guy are S*R0/@ER. I don't
mean hit her, but mauling is 0E as long as she is en=oying itG I)
8ersistance is ;ER im!ortant. 0f course, you may $ant to
dum! the chick after the fuck if she doesn't dro! the shit because
she is too much $ork to obtain se+ from in the long run. Hust gi"e
her an ultimatum D%ut the shit or you $ill be lonelyGD
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At the same time, you can get tra!!ed if you say an S0I that you
can't !ossibly kee!. So $atch $hat you !romise to doG
Saying shit like DI'm going to buy you a Rolls RoyceGD $hen she
E/0WS you can't afford it is an e+treme e+am!le of a shit S0I.
*here goes your trust and congruency $ith that one.
And as for one other comment you made:
2E.g. If you $ant to start things off gently by holding her hand,
tell her a scene $here $ant to be holding her hand F and then do it
in the ne+t routine after she is comfortable $ith this.)
ou mean you tell her a story about some guy you kno$ $ho held
some girl's hand( 0r $hat( 9ethinks I really don't understand
here.
ou can do that to get her thinking about holding someone's hand
F and once
she is feeling it, you may be able to sli! in the kino and get a$ay
$ith it.
At least, your chances $ill be better.
Is se+ ALL you bringing to the table( *hat's $hy he cou!led
@9 styled intention !ointers further into the seduction 2after the
earlier @Frated ones), and then $hen they succeeded in not
ob=ecting, he $ent to 9ystery routines as a re$ard 0R to the
6rag !hase if they $ere 66&.
I $ould L0;E to see these S0Is $ritten do$n.
6one as abo"e. &ut make your o$nG
I reFe+!lained the DLet's :uckD !roblem a bit better abo"e as $ell.
So here's my deal: I $ant to see more e+am!les of S0Is so I can
take them a!art, because I really sus!ect that the e+act $ording is
crucial.
:or e+am!le:
@9 gets a$ay $ith his S0Is because they're e+aggerated to
absurdity, and thus they're both funny and unlikely 2at least as
stated).
*his seducets a little distance bet$een the S0I and the girl, so she
doesn't sla! him.
I think it's more of a case of the @9 S0Is that fail, he can $rite
them off as being =okes. *hat kee!s him on track and congruent.
'5.
&7* the risk of failure is "ery high if he doesn't co"er his tracks.
@uam SE67%ER gets a$ay $ith his S0I 2Auoted abo"e) because
he's talking about $omen in general, and not o"ertly about the
!articular chick.
*his seducets a little distance bet$een the S0I and the girl, so
she's not !ressured to make a decision right then.
*his is the all im!ortant !oint. With some S0Is 2and es!ecially
$ith ambiguities in /L8) the S0Is are not in your face, &7* they
are "ague enough to get the !oint across and then =udge for a
!ositi"e reaction from her or not. 3o$e"er, the "agueness is
sim!ly a shot from 51 metres as o!!osed to a shot from !ointF
blank. Hust make sure you hit the target.
*he danger $ith !ointFblank S0Is is they are risky in so far as if
you say a dumb one you can't,$on't, or don't $ant to carry out like
DI'm going to take you on holidayGD as o!!osed to an /L8 shot
from 51 metres $hich describes a holiday and builds on it. D3a"e
you e"er been on holiday $ith someone s!ecial(.....D
Am I on the right track here( Are there other $ays to $ord S0Is
that get around direct resistance( 9ore e+am!les $ould be
a!!reciated.
ou should check out !atterning, but remember, a shot from
!ointFblank is better than 51 metres. *he shortest distance bet$een
, !oints is a straight line. *here are !ros and cons of both styles of
course.
ou can take the short !ath across the dangerous ra"ine, or the
long !ath around it.
I gotta say, this $hole idea of S0Is is ne$ to me. 9aybe other
SE67%ER s in this grou! ha"e been using them $ithout e"er
reali4ing>stating the im!ortance of them(
I =ust ga"e a name to it. 8eo!le ha"e done this stuff before and
I'm =ust gi"ing it a name to hel! e+!lain $hat I'm doing.
And no, Ray can't trademark this either and claim it's his. We
ha"e discussed $hy this is enough on AS:. 3e's filtered any$ay
and I can't see his "erbal shit.
*hanks,
Ash
'55
*hanks for the Auestions. *hey hel! challenge me in trying to
e+!lain myself better.
Rio
Subject: Re: Clearing SOI's up
9aniac,
I came u! $ith the S0I conce!t after studying $hat the @uam
8layboy did to $omen. I $ish I could ha"e s!ent longer do$n
there to learn more off this guy. 0h $ell, I =ust need to sa"e u! to
go again.
S0I 2Statements of intention>interest) $ere comments that the
@uam 8layboy
made a lot 2I assume you read my re!ort on that !lace F It's nan!a
!aradiseG). What he did then $as control the flirting that follo$ed
after baiting her $ith a sho$ of interest. He did this by offering a
challenge - $hen he finished doing that once he $ent back to fun
routines, talking about !arties on the island, =okes, se+ !ersonality
tests, etc. before he did another S0I F staring out as indirect and
ambiguous, before being ;ER direct. I)
&asically $hat I think I ha"e come u! $ith, through trying to
e+!lain to the
!osters that asked me about him, is a flirting construction kit.
*he @uam 8layboy /E@ged a L0* F and he got a$ay $ith it
e"ery time. 3e could
e"en tell $omen A:% things like they $ere beautiful, and then turn
it into
a /E@ if he $anted. *hat's $hat o"er ,1 years of daily SE67%E
did for this guy.
&ut the /E@ is only one kind of flirting 2used for dum!ing a
girl's u!tight
self image). *here are other kinds, such as using ambiguities,
!hysical
lightFhanded sla!!ing and seduceshing kino, !laying tricks on
!eo!le, etc. *he
8layboy used !lenty of "ariations.
Seducesh seducell
'5<
:lirting is this:F 0ne dro!s the S0I, and then takes it a$ay out of
reach of the target. *hen gi"es another S0I, and then takes it a$ay
again. Like $ith our $ords, $e seducet images of se+ and romance
in their heads, then takes it out again, then out it in, then take it out,
then seducet it back in, then take it out again.... 9indfuckingG
0nce the chick is confused and teased enough, she is 66& and
safely mindfucked.
I did a SE67%E once on a chick using the S0Is. I found out $here
she li"ed and
then said D0h that's not far from my !lace, so I can come do$n to
see you.
It's a !ity I am so busy it $on't ha!!en todayD
2/ote that there is a bit of future !acing and !resu!!ositioning in
this)
She la!!ed it u! and took my kino from there F des!ite the &:
being a matter of metres a$ay.
*he structure for the @uam 8layboy routine $ent like this:FF :un
routine or o!ener 2ala 9ystery) F some basic fluff F all good things
about himself, $hat he could do for the $omen 2he !layed the
hel!ful tour guide). &e D6isgustinglyD %harmingG as he seducet it.
*he guy $asn't big on logically dra$ing out routines for $hat he
did 2$hich is a good thing), he =ust $ent and 6I6 this.... thus he
couldn't really e+!lain to me $hat he $as doing. I had to obser"e.
F S0I. 3e said something that hinted that he $as interested in the
chick 2!aced and lead from his o!ener con"ersation). *his got her
emotions going and her ideas racing. I ha"e found this %RI*I%AL
if the chick is going to stay interested in you for too long. I bored
many $omen out initially $hen I $ouldn't get to the !oint.
DWhat do you look for in guys(D $ould be sufficient enough as a
Auestion to hint at $hat you are after 2as you ha"e found out
yourself 9aniac). Starting off on a to!ic about guys and
relationshi!s usually brings $omen out, but asking D6o you ha"e a
&:(D sucks.
*his Ross Heffries ins!ired S0I D*he more you laugh, the more
you'll be attracted to interesting !eo!le......no$ $ith meD is an
ambiguous S0I.
'5B
F &efore she could knock him do$n for any comment, he $ould
then be a challenge and say something like "I'm not easy", "we
don't know each other
well enough yet", "but what would I know, right? ;)","I need
to feel passion
first", "Yeah, you know what I'm sayingD. *hese basically
:0R%E the chick to
continue the flirting 2initiated by the S0I) along the lines that 3E
$anted 2and the lines that $omen SA they $antG).
&y saying that he Dneeded timeD and Dnot being easyD, the chick
already attracted to him $ould then come onto him.
9ost of the time the $omen $ould laugh becuase they'd get stuck
for a smart comeback. And he =ust ke!t this u!, alternating back to
!arty and fun routines, until he got to the Dse+FS0IF0ur WorldF&ut
I'm no slea4eDroutine $hich $ould then 66& the target to fuck F or
get her ready for it ne+t time they met.
Negative commands also work great here to spark challenge.
1ust like I did
with my now L1BF ex-LTR "I'm not going to fuck you".
I'"e noted in my !ast failures 2too many to count) that $hen I ha"e
dro!!ed S0I hints F the $omen ha"e taken the flirting into areas
$hich $ere im!ossible for me to control F fucking me u! and
making me look stu!id.
Es!ecially in clubs $here $omen do this like child's !lay to
anyone $ho DhitsD on them. *hey use their irrational chick logic to
fuck themsel"es 2and you) u!. If that ha!!ens, your SE67%E is
history. We can't gi"e the $omen control, es!ecially not in flirting,
because they aren't the ones that are trying to do SE67%E. It's
their =ob as D"irtuousD $omento try and get a$ay from SE67%E,
or try to fuck our SE67%E u!.
S"engali also said in his 9L*R theory something $hich rings
home on this. 3e said 2and I Auote):F
DSe"enth: If you don't gi"e a $oman something StoS be !issed
about e"ery
'5?
no$ and then, she'll find something on her o$n, and that $ill be
harder to get out of 2because it $ill be of her making and criteria,
not yours).D
*hat is also the !oint of $hat $e should be doing in flirting. *o
tra! the chick into going along $ith $hat your flirting and
acce!ting your ad"ances 2by means of nonFob=ection) $hile getting
her horny at the same time. *hat $ay $e a"oid sna!!y comebacks
because you'"e already D3andled her ob=ections before they came
u!D 2*hat's something I learnt as a salesman) *his causes the chick
to ha"e her token resistance stall out F and seducets us in control.
@9 does this $ith his se+ =okes, but he slams any !ossible retort
$ith DHust EiddingD thus the chick can't say anything and the
flirting goes by @9s rules and not hers.
*ake 9ystery's D/ice nailsD /E@ for e+am!le.
3e starts off $ith an S0I D/ice nailsD. *his in and of itself is a
com!liment. If he sto!!ed here, the chick $ould come back 2if she
$ere a bitch) $ith some smart ass comment to get rid of 9ystery.
&7*, he then seducets u! the %3ALLE/@E before she gets a
chance to re!ly 2like
@9 $ith DHust kiddingD). Seemingly innocent too. DAre they real(D
/o$ the chick is stuck. What's going on( 3e's com!limented me,
and no$ he's
knocking me do$nG What is he doing( I must stick around for thisG
What can I
say( 9aybe I'll =ust laugh it off...G( er..(
2/ote, some REAL bitches $hen stalled $ill look angry at you and
say D3uh(D
to $hich it's @9 to the rescueG $ith D3ide your !leasureGD)
So, cou!le this kind of flirting $ith lots of things to get her feeling
horny 2!atterns, se+ talk, $hate"er), and add lots of !ersonality
con"eying things thro$n in for good measure F and the chick is
sufficiently stunned F and ready for the drag and fuck stage.
0h, and the @uam 8layboy is an ugly fucker. Ei!!'s seen the
!ictures.
Looks don't matter for shit. I ha"e great res!ect for all the older
SE67%ER s .
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I must get u! to *okyo to see you guys real soon. *he inaka sucks.
We can e+!eriment $ith this some more then. I'"e been getting
rusty since I got back from @uam.
What I do kno$ is that $hen this guy's method does $ork, it is
EILLER. We get 9r. Smooth status and E%s like cra4y.
Rio
6ictate the flirting
Rio..
ou are on to something big here..
*his is a disco"eryG
I $ill incor!orate this.
8lease gi"e more s!ecific e+am!les though. I get $hat you are
saying, but not yet really ho$ you $ould a!!ly it. .
:ucking e+cellent threadG
%omments in te+t belo$.
After /e$ years, I SWILLS be ready, and $e $ill hit the streets.
great. i ha"en't been doing much seduce until yesterday 2' solid #
from a C and a kc from another C) F thus this !ost as i test out my
theory. i ha"e a friend $ho $ould like to come along. he's already
briefed and "ery e+!erienced in scre$ing $omen in =a!an. he's
read the !icku! guide already.
he's e"en been so kind to introduce me to some $omen $ho $ant
mercy fucks.
he also kno$s some good Dhole in the $allD !laces around
ra!!ongi $ith lots of $omen 2so he says).
&*W, RioI re: 'nomad' !layer.. mine $as fucked u!, returned it for
an e+change, ne$ one $orks..
I*'S S7RE &EA*S A *A8E RE%0R6ER, 60ES/'* I*(
:irst, this is brilliant material, it is going on the
$ebsite, and is core to successful SE67%E I think. It SISS $hat
smooth $as doing.. I couldnt identify it, but no$ it has been
named, and described, I recogni4e this.. and yes, it $ill be
*0*ALL lethal..
thanks. e"ery successful seducer has been doing something like
this 2of one style or another) to bed $omen. i $ent out and used
this frame yesterday $ith interesting and !ositi"e results.....
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ho$e"er, i must say it's hard to gi"e s!ecific e+am!les unless they
are situationally based. follo$ing the logic ho$e"er, and using it
gi"en the situation still bring results. i $ill describe some of $hat i
ha"e been doing $ith it, but i can't remember for the life of me
$hat e+actly the guam guy said. 2i only recorded a small sam!le of
our chat $ith my m!- !layer.
none of his nan!a ho$e"er) $hat i do kno$, is that he follo$ed
this structure $hich i ha"e described to "ery some good effects.
i assume you read my original story on the guam tri!.
if so, my re!ly $ill make more sense.
in article , DRioD $rote: He did this by offering a challenge -
$hen he finished doing that once he $ent back to fun routines,
talking about
E+am!les( ( ok, he made some kind of com!liment or suggested
some kind of acti"ity 2oftentimes $ith se+ual or romantic
undertones) that they could do together.
2like hang tight to each other of the =et !o$ered banana boat) and
then follo$ed that $ith a reason $hy he $ould ha"e trouble doing
it. kinda like in sales, a salesman $ould say Dfor one day only
saleD, $ell he $as like Dso you sho$ u! at such and such a time,
other$ise i $on't be able to sho$ you a good time and i'll take
someone elseD 2a takea$ay) so in order to continue the flirting, the
chick $ould ha"e to sho$ u!. he
$ould then 2after ha"ing com!leted a soi routine) sit back and
$atch the chick follo$ through. he $ould oftentimes be able to
continue a con"ersation $ithout stalling F and mid$ay he $ould
soi her again and do the same routine $ith something else. i ne"er
sa$ him get it on $ithin ,1 minutes, but i sa$ $hat he did to the
chick $ith this routine and i could tell that he could ha"e if he
$anted to. he didn't look des!erate at all.
!arties on the island, =okes, se+ !ersonality tests, etc. before he did
another S0I F staring out as indirect and ambiguous, before being
;ER direct. I)
E+am!les ( ( *his guy had a strong element of gm. *he se+
!ersonality test is documented In my !ost on this guy 2it's about ice
cream) F but after$ards unlike gm, no %omment of D=ust kiddingD.
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3e $ould then say something else to distract Attention or !lay
D!retend afcD like Dbut i'm not easyD or Dbut i don't kno$ ou that
$ellD
All the mean$hile, getting the chick horny and creating a
challenge.
&asically $hat I think I ha"e come u! $ith, through trying to
e+!lain to the !osters that asked me about him, is a flirting
construction kit.
E+am!les ( ( maniac, you're starting to o"eruse cut and !aste like
nyc $hen he ri!s a!art afcs $ith these De+am!les((D
comments.........
2Auote nyc)
Dyou are being used. she doesn't gi"e a shit about you. she doesn't
intend to fuck you. she is fucking other men that she finds se+ually
attracti"e.
you are footing the bill for her international $horing. sto!.D ha ha
ha I)
the guam !layboy negged a lot F and he got a$ay $ith it e"ery
time.
such as ( (
$ish i could remember no$. but $hat i did see is him
com!limenting lots of =a! $omen and not getting any nasty
reaction back from them F because they $ere so shy and
ine+!erienced. so the $omen =ust laughed because they had no
bitch shield of any ty!e.
$here he did encounter a shield, he $ould attack her DnastyD
!ersonality F
and her lack of ability to be graceful $ith com!liments.
in that sense, he $ould al$ays si4e the chick u! as if he $as
looking for ltr !otential 2but $e kno$ of course, that ltr $as ne"er
the !lan)
3e could e"en tell $omen A:% things like they $ere beautiful,
and then turn it into a /E@ if he $anted. *hat's $hat o"er ,1
years of daily SE67%E did for this guy.
E+am!les ( (( Push Pull )
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Dyou're really cute....2!ause to check res!onse)... but i don't kno$
anything about you. 2said negati"ely or not de!ending on her
res!onse). So $ho are you any$ay(D
but the neg is only one kind of flirting 2used for dum!ing a girl's
u!tight self image). there are other kinds, such as using
ambiguities, !hysical lightFhanded sla!!ing and seduceshing kino,
!laying tricks on !eo!le,etc.
such as ( (
i'"e sto!!ed using kino immidiately no$, and sa"ing it for $hen
i'"e landed an soi routine and caught the chick out. $hen she has
laughed, i sla! her gently. it's anchoring.
as for tricks on !eo!le.... stu!id ones. i $ill ha"e to sho$ you them
in !erson.
*he 8layboy used !lenty of "ariations.
Like $hat ( (
gi"en the situation, he $ould try different $ays to get her thinking
romantically about both of them together. he $ould use $hate"er
$as in his surroundings, or the to!ic of con"ersation, to !ace and
lead the chick into imagining such a scenario.
then he $ould yank it a$ay by gi"ing some kind of e+cuse 2like he
$as busy, he didn't think she could do it) or he $ould !lay afc 2i
don't kno$ you, I need to be in lo"e first, i'm not easy, i'm not a
!layer, i need time, i am really !icky, i ha"e been hurt before, i
ha"e a gf)
flirting is this:F one dro!s the soi, and then seducells it a$ay out of
reach of the target.
for e+am!le ( (
( Push Pull Tease )
i really feel "ery close to you, but i need time.
the magic $ord is `but`
*hen gi"es another S0I, and then seducells it away again. Like
$ith our $ords, $e seducet images of se+ and romance in their
heads, then seducell it out
Like ( (
his bra"est soi $as the one $here he said straight out that he $as
going to fuck a chick. i $itnessed the $hole thing. he said that he
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$as going to fuck her `but` 2and then he $ent !retend afc) i'm
"ery !icky, i'm not a seducer because those guys tease $omen $ith
bullshit, make em!ty !romises, fuck them, and then dum! them. i
am a !layboy. i lo"e $omen and i don't $ant you to get too
attached to me after $e ha"e se+. again, then out it in, then take it
out, then seducet it back in, then take it out again........
mindfuckingG
e+am!le !lease . .
ok, another one:F i $ant to kiss you, but someho$ i don't think
you like kissing.
2bt$ F this $ould be an soi fairly ad"anced in con"ersation)
note also that there's an embedded command in the ,nd !art of the
routine.
that being Dyou like kissingD e"il isn't it( once the chick is
confused and teased enough, she is ddb and safely mindfucked.
ho$( describe this. . $hat Se+actlyS did he do(
$ell, the chick that he said the Di'm going to fuck youD s!eech to,
=ust started doing all the trademark bodylanguage. she =ust sat there
SstunnedS and !layed $ith her hair. like a rabbit looking into
bright lights. the guam guy said all of it $ith a serious face too, so
she couldn't laugh off $hat he $as saying.
the $ay he $orked didn't seem to be one of DattractionD !er se. he
$ould e"entually corner the chick and flirt $ith her until she could
take no more.
until she got SstunnedS i did a seduce once on a chick using the
sois. i found out $here she li"ed and then said Doh that's not far
from my !lace, so i can come do$n to see you. it's a !ity i am so
busy it $on't ha!!en todayD this is good. .
that's a real life e+am!le of $hat the $hole theory is about. 9ore
im!ortantly is that it $orked.
(note that there is a bit of future pacing and presuppositioning
in this)
she la!!ed it u! and took my kino from there F des!ite the bf being
a matter of metres a$ay.
*he structure for the @uam 8layboy routine $ent like this:F
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F :un routine or o!ener 2ala 9ystery) F some basic fluff F all good
*hings about himself, $hat he could do for the $omen 2he !layed
the hel!ful *our
E+am!les ( ( read some of mystery's o!enersG
ty!ically off the $all stuff. $ell, $hen he $as talking about guam's
culture and !arties and stuff F for all the tourists, all this ne$ info
to them is !retty off the $all.
he $ould tell the $omen about some !arty $here they $ould dig a
huge !it and thro$ animals on it in a big feast $ith a bonfire and
dancing F and then branched out and talked about dancing and
other e+otic>erotic stuff. guide). be DdisgustinglyD charmingG as he
seducet it. the guy $asn't big on Like ( (
*hose $ere his e+act $ords. 3e relied on gm a lot in the latter !art
of his eductions. logically dra$ing out routines for $hat he did
2$hich is a good thing), he =ust $ent and 6I6 this.... thus he
couldn't really e+!lain to me $hat he $as doing. I had to obser"e.
e!, he's got e+!erience.. I rarely consciously follo$
9aniac8lan anymore.. =ust it s!e$s out naturally.. learning
SE67%E is like learning a foreign language>lingo.. once you get
it, its natural..
I'"e been learning to !lay afc in my seductions, and it has been
$orking SreallyS $ellG
F S0I. 3e said something that hinted that he $as interested in the
chick 2!aced and lead from his o!ener con"ersation). *his got her
emotions going
E+am!le( 3o$(
ok, another one.
D$ouldn't it be great to s!end time together o"er coffee( it's such a
!ity I ha"e to go to some meetings later on, so $e $ill !robably
ha"e no time to see each other e"er again before you go back.D
2$ait for res!onse)
Dbut let me kno$ your number any$ay...$ho kno$s i may ha"e
time.D
2might $ant to sa"e this one after you ha"e dro!!ed se"eral other
sois)
and her ideas racing.
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like $hat( $hich ideas( be s!ecific !lease. .
romatic and>or se+ual ones.
he $ould start off on romantic ones and make them increasingly
se+ual until
he hit a se+ual fantasy of hers that $ould ddb her.
let's say Dholding handsD or Ds!ending Auality time togetherD or
Dbeing closeD and e"entually leading that into Dtouching bodiesD
and DkissingD to DfuckingD ob"iously.
a lot of time distortion sois.
i ha"e found this critical if the chick is going to stay interested in
you for too long. I bored many $omen out initially $hen I
$ouldn't get to the !oint. Wrest deletedX
Rio, this is great stuff. Someho$ I understand it.. but I need
e+am!les of it so I can seducet it together as something I can try in
the field. 6o you remember any s!ecifics from this guy(
$ell, $e can al$ays $ait for the offFseason and go to guam $ith
a "cr and meet this guy 2you'll only need about .1,111 yen from
tokyo for a , day tri!) or ne+t time $e meet in tokyo $e can do
more street stuff and i can sho$ you $hat i kno$. 2i hadn't fully
de"elo!ed the theory until after my night out $ith ki!! F i oAed too
much and failed to !lace any challenges after my sois that night)
the guam !layboy $as a grandmaster of street seduce F his
$eakness $as that he
$as a greedy team!layer $ith $ingmen.
If so, !lease fill in the abo"e s!aces $here I ask.. it is "ery
im!ortant if this is to $ork.
Rio
Using SOI's (statements of intent) as a tease to attract a chick!
Sub=ect: Re: %learing S0I's u! ( Push Pull )
In article ,
:or e+am!le, if $e $ere to dro! an S0I on the chick, and then
I99E6IA*EL follo$ u! $ith a negati"e command F WE
control the flirting so that the chick then has to $ork for 7S.
So $e can say things like DI $ant to kiss youD And then control
the flirting by seducelling a$ay again $ith some re"erse
commands :F
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D&7* I don't really kno$ anything about you, and I ha"en't
kno$n you for "ery long, and I need to feel lo"e firstD
Sounds like the stuff that $omen tell us, right( Well $omen say it
to flirt, as o!!osed to meaning $hat they sayG
0migodG Rio, this is an a$esome !ostG &rilliantG @eniusG
DI $as thinking about kissing you, but you'd !robably slobber too
much.D
DI'd lo"e to take you home, but I kno$ you'd get all clingy.D
DI'm =ust trying to guess if you're any good in bed. *oo bad you're
too young > $eird>conser"ati"e for me.D
DI bet you'd lo"e the $ay I do neck massages. ou'"e been acting
u! too much to deser"e one, though.D
*his is so EASG Anyone can think these u! on the s!otG *here's
no need to think u! ambiguous sentences or come u! $ith =ust the
right innuendo. Hust make a Statement of Intentions, then let her
kno$ $hat S3E has to offer to make it ha!!en F by telling her that
you $on't do it because she's not u! to !arG I lo"e itG I $ill try it
out ASA8G
3o$come I'"e ne"er seen this idea e+!lained before( In
retros!ect, it's clear that 9rSe+.u/% and 9ystery do similar
stuff, but I'"e ne"er seen the dynamic e+!lained this $ay before.
Ross talks about setting challenges, but it's al$ays seemed like
such a delicate art to say =ust the right thing at =ust the right time.
&ut this is so easyG *hank you, Rio.
A scientific explanation for chick logic! (ie. those mixed up
nonsensical thinking patterns that women always use on guys!)
Sub=ect: &rain research K %hick Logic insightG
I ha!!ened to be looking around the $eb, and found something
regarding Left >right brain s!eciali4ation and e+!eriments that has
interesting a!!lications to SE67%E, and in !articular, chick logic.
:irst I summari4e this, and then relate it to SE67%E belo$.
&asically, there is an o!eration for e!ile!tics $here you can cut the
connection bet$een their left and right brains in their heads. *his
makes those !eo!le's sei4ures less $orse.
*hey found that $hen they do this though, that the left side of the
brain, and right side, no$ function as "ery inde!endent, "ery
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se!erate units, each $ith their o$n thoughts, o!inions,
consciousness..etc.
*hey found that the left side deals $ith s!eech, logic, math,
reasoning, ego. *hey found that the right side deals $ith abstract,
emotion, art, kino, dreaming and imagination, and often had a
lo$er self esteem.
/o$, the interesting thing is that they also found that the right side
could not deal $ith language really, and thus all communications
to the 'outside' $as done "ia the connection to the left brain, and
then to outside 2generally s!eaking). *hey found this, because after
the t$o sides $ere se!erated from each other "ia the surgery, and
the right side 'learned' to understand english again, by using
ear!hones, and gi"ing Auestions to each ear, $ith re!ly $ritten by
the !en on the same side, that each 'brain' had "ery different
desires, o!inions, self feelings, as if there $ere really 't$o !eo!le'
inside.
So, ho$ does this a!!ly to SE67%E( Well, firstly, it e+!lains
$hy /L8, or story telling or !attern language $ork e"en though it
'makes no sense'
$hen listened to logically. &ecause the brain normally
communicates to the outside 2s!eaking, listening) "ia the left brain,
and then all the 'emotional' stuff, gets !assed to the right brain for
!rocessing.
It is the 'right brain' you $ant to reach, to lay a chick. *hat is
$here all those emotional and racy feelings $ork. If you are
logical, then your information>chatter $ill only get as far as the left
brain,and ne"er make it to the right, $here you need to go to lead
the chick.
*hat is $hy you need stories, /L8..etc, to dri"e the imagination,
and acti"ate the right side, and get I* making the decisions rather
than the left side.
:inally, this also raises an interesting e+!lanation for the
!henomenon kno$n as 'chick logic'. 7nderstanding the abo"e,
chick logic no$ makes !erfect sense 2ie. chick is saying 'no se+
tonight' $ith her mouth $hile lunging her body at you. *his is
$here the left brain 2$ords) and right brain 2body action) are at
'<?
total odds at each other, and each is doing the o!!osite.. because
there are really t$o !eo!le inside
thereG
It also e+!lains $hy you $ant to look at $hat the body 2right
brain) is saying and not $hat the $ords are saying. &ecause it is
the right brain that $ill decide that she $ants to fuck you 2unless
she is doing it for golddigging or something, in $hich it $ill be the
left side, but then it is likely to be a lousy fuck unless you get the
right side
going), and it is the right side controlling the nonF"erbal action.
It also e+!lains about about myself regarding moods Z SE67%E.
If I am only thinking $ith my left side, I $ill suck at SE67%E that
day, but if I do something to '$ake u!' the right side, the
'atmos!here' and e"erything =ust goes much more smoothly..
/o idea if any of this is e"en remotely correct or not, but it does
seem to make sense, at least to me.
David Shade writes about Eye Contact Theory
Subject: Re: Eye Contact
I'"e been reading the many hel!ful !osts by all the e+!erienced
!layers.
I $as $ondering ho$ the e+!erts utili4e eye contact. 6o you guys
$hen you first see a girl you like try to establish eye contact(
What ha!!ens after you get eye contact( :or some reason, $hen I
make eye contact $ith a girl, I feel like I'm "iolting her in some
sort of $ay.
It's as if a girl can sense that I'm lusting after her $ith my eyes.
*hat's $hat you $ant her to sense.
I !osted this once, and I $ill cut and !aste it again...
Eye Contact Experiment
I asked one $oman friend of mine D$hy did you go out $ith him(D
and she re!lied: Dbecause $hen I looked at him he ke!t eye contact
$ith me.D
When I recall the "ery successful !eo!le I ha"e had the !leasure
of $orking for in the cor!orate $orld, I remember that they all
maintained eye contact $hile s!eaking to me.
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When you $atch somebody successful being inter"ie$ed on *;,
like Scott 9c/ealy of
Sun, you notice that they ne"er look a$ay from their inter"ie$er's
eyes and they rarely blink.
ou are a!!roaching a chick in the hall as you $alk to$ards each
other. When should you look at her( 23er eyes, silly. If you look at
anything else, it's o"er.) I ha"e tried all combinations. If I $ait
until the last instant, I either find she is not looking, or, if she is
looking, she Auickly looks a$ay. If I look at her and she looks at
me and I look a$ay, then she ne"er looks again. *hen I tried
something bold and decide I $ill look at her eyes the entire time.
*o my ama4ement, she ga4es like a deer into headlights. /e"er
breaks eye contact. So I decide to try this little e+!eriment.
Recently I s!ent a $eek attending meetings in one of our buildings
filled $ith educated successful !rofessional $omen in their ,1's
and -1's. 9ost are definitely doable. Some are gorgeous. Some are
married, some are not. I s!ent my time bet$een meetings trying
this: I $ould !ick a different floor and I $ould $alk do$n each
hall, $alking =ust slightly to the right of center. When I sa$ a
$oman $alking to$ards me, I maintained looking at her eyes.
0nly the hea"y ones did not kee! looking. &ut for all the others,
including the gorgeous ones, they maintained eye contact the entire
time. I ne"er blinked. *hey ne"er blinked. *hey broke eye contact
only $hen $e $ere =ust about ne+t to each other. I broke eye
contact only after she did. What really ama4ed me $as that by the
time $e !assed, almost e"ery chick had broken a smile. Some e"en
said D3i.D I did not smile or say 3i until they first did.
*hese halls $ere not long. Each $oman $as no farther than -1
feet a$ay $hen I first sa$ her. &ut $hat if it had been a "ery long
hall( 3o$ far do$n the hall should I start looking at her eyes( I
certainly don't $ant to scare her. I look straight ahead, and then
$hen she is about -1 feet a$ay, I start looking into her eyes.
I then $ent to the mall a fe$ times to try the e+!eriment there.
9ost did not look at all.
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0f those $ho did look, most only looked for a second. 0nly about
a third locked on. 0f those, about half broke a smile or said 3i. A
cou!le of them $here so mo"ed that they almost tri!!ed.
6o you ha"e to be $alking( I tried the e+!eriment $hile sitting.
Almost none maintained eye contact. 6o they ha"e to be $alking(
While I $as $alking I $ould look at any $omen $ho $ere sitting.
*he results $ere the same as if $e $ere both $alking.
If I $as a!!roaching t$o $omen, and looked from one to the
other, I lost them both. So, if I am in such a situation, I lock onto
one and I don't change my mind.
If I smiled or said 3i, $hile she $as still looking at me, but before
she smiled or said
3i, it $ould usually result in my loosing her. 0n rare instances did
it make her smile and say 3i $ith enthusiasm. So, I ne"er smile or
say 3i until she first does so, and I smile if she smiles and say 3i if
she says 3i.
If she did not lock eye contact $ith me, I $ould go ahead and say
3i $hen she got close to me. In many instances she $ould then
enthusiastically turn to me and smile and say 3i.
I $ould also look at $omen $ho $ere $ith a man if he $as not
looking in my general direction. I $as sur!rised at the number of
times that she $ould lock on and actually smile.
I noticed that the better I dressed, or the se+ier I dressed, the better
I did. I noticed
*hat the $omen $ho looked $here better dressed then those $ho
did not.
Eye contact in a bar is an entire science in itself. When done
correctly, it can be fucking lethal.
Real !layers ne"er stare. *hey lock eye contact. *here is a
difference bet$een staring and locking eye contact. *hey are t$o
totally different things.
When you look at a $oman, here is $hat you do. Lock eye contact
$ith her. 6on't
blink. 6on't look at her friend. 8ick one eye and don't let go. ou
only get one chance
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at this. 6on't gi"e u!. 6on't smile. 6on't say anything. ou are
telling her that you are interested in her and you are not intimidated
by her. *hen lea"e it u! to her. ou $ill be ama4ed at the staring
ca!ability that $omen !osses.
She is thinking DWho is this guy to be so bold as to continue
looking at me $hile I look at him( /o$ this is interesting. 3e is
different.D She kno$s that if she lets go no$, she $ill loose you.
She $ill go one of t$o $ays. If she $ants to loose you, she $ill
break eye contact and look a$ay. If she does not $ant to loose
you, but is instead intrigued by $hat you are doing, she kno$s that
she has to e"entually end the stare do$n and she $ill ha"e to make
the mo"e. She $ill ha"e to either smile or say 3i.
If she smiles, you smile. If she says 3i, you say 3i. 6on't say
3ello. *hen you re$ard her and make your mo"e.
0f course, you don't al$ays ha"e to $ait for eye contact to make
your mo"e.
Subject: Weasel Phrases (suggestive talk)!
Weasel Phrases From: "Dan Scorpio"
Suggestive Predicates (or 'Weasel Phrases')
*he follo$ing list com!rises a grou! of !redicates designed for use
in the construction of suggesti"e sentences. *he suggestion !ro!er
$ill ordinarily immediately follo$ any of the gi"en !redicates, the
seducer!ose of the latter being to 'set u!' the structure for the
$ords that follo$. As an e+am!le, the !redicate that heads the list
belo$ can be fused onto a tailing !hrase as follo$s:
'Are you curious about $hy your feet are on the floor('
*he listener may or may not ha"e been curious before the Auestion
$as seducet, but one thing is for certain no$ F that they ha"e to
audit the !osition of their feet in order to make the Auestion
meaningful: the Auestion thus unobtrusi"ely directs the listener's
attention at their feet.
Such suggesti"e !redicates as these, $hich ha"e attracted the
unfortunate name of '$easel !hrases', $ere one original techniAue
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de"elo!ed by 6r 9ilton 3. Erickson in his seminal $ork on
con"ersational hy!nosis.
A further detailed discussion as to ho$ these !o$erful structures
$ork in /L8 terms follo$s the list.
After you come to....
After you'"e...
And the more you 2Q)...the more you 2)
And as you...
Are you curious about...
Are you a$are that...
Are you still interested in...
As you hear these $ords they...
As you... ...then...
As you consider this...
&e a$are of $hat you can sense...
&efore you think...
%an you imagine...
%an I ask you to...
%an you "isualise...
%an you...
%an you remember...
%ould you...
6o you think that...
6o you remember $hen...
6o you...
6o you e"er...
6on't think of...
3as it e"er occurred to you that...
3a"e you noticed that...
3a"e you e"er $ondered...
3a"e you...
3a"e you e"er...
3o$ $ould you feel if...
3o$ do you kno$ that...
3o$ do you feel $hen...
I don't $ant you to be...
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I $ant you to learn...
I kno$ you are curious...
I sa$ someone do this in minutes once...
I $onder if...
I don't kno$ ho$ soon...
I $onder could you...
I $ould like to suggest that...
I $ant you to bear in mind...
I $ant you to become a$are...
I can remember...
I'd like you to !retend that...
I'm $ondering...
I'm curious to kno$...
If you could...
In my e+!erience...
Is it that you are...
Is it !ossible...
Is it that you ha"e...
Is it that there is...
It is useful that...
It's =ust like...
It's im!ossible...
It's good to kno$ that...
It's useful that...
It's good that...
It's either 2A) or 2&)I $hich is it...
It's not im!ortant that...
It's as if...
8eo!le can loosen u! easily...
8erha!s you are...
8erha!s you can...
8erha!s you could...
8erha!s you're $ondering...
*his can be learned easily...
What do you think $ould ha!!en if...
What $ould ha!!en if...
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What's it like to...
When you notice... ...then...
Will you...
Would you...
ou come to...
ou are learning to antici!ate...
ou can become a$are that...
ou kno$ about these things...
ou $ill feel...
The Effect of Suggestive Predicates in a Live Environment
A '$easel !hrase' is a !redicate that sets u! the material that
immediately follo$s it as a !o$erful suggestion. When a !articular
ty!e of sentence is constructed one of these such !hrases, a
sentence $hich refers to the immediate en"ironment of the listener
2es!ecially to the !hysical being or ongoing acti"ities of the
listener), it can
offer communication on more than one le"el since there is:
a) an a!!arently 'normal' abstract $ord string that reAuires
decoding and inter!reting in the ordinary manner of e"eryday oral
communication
b) a nonFordinary content of the $ord string referring to
immediate, ongoing e"ents that demands attention and "erification
in modalities other than the auditory 2Ai)
Accordingly, an astute o!erator can use such a sentence to !ace R
by use of content that refers to the ob"ious &7* A/ '0&;I07SD
*3A* *3E LIS*E/ER IS 6IRE%*E6 I/*0 ;ERI:I/@ &
/0/F;ER&AL 9EA/S F or to lead, by directing by means of
subtle suggestion the nonF"erbal attention in a gi"en direction of
the o!erator's choice F and subtle suggestions are all that is needed
in order to get the thought train rolling.
Additionally, and the author of this !a!er found this difficult to
com!rehend at first, single, suitably constructed sentences $ith
suggesti"e !redicates can !resent a system of com!le+ "erbal
signals A/6 both a !ace and lead simultaneously, such is their
!o$er.
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Let us e+amine a cou!le of e+am!les of this dark2() art. In number
', it is assumed that the listener has both feet resting on the floor
and that this fact is ob"ious to the o!erator F and anyone else $ho
cares to notice.
*he basic sentence to be e+!lored is:
Example 1: 'Are you aware that/your foot/is resting on the
floor?'
&reaking this do$n into the three constituent !arts $e ha"e:
'Are you a$are that...' 2the suggesti"e !redicate)
'...your foot...' 2reference to a !hysical !art)
'...is resting on the floor(' 2Auery about $hat is ob"ious... to the
o!erator)
*his a!!ears to be such a tri"ial Auestion, but it really causes the
listener to $ork hard and fully !rocess it in order to understand
$hat is going on. *he !rocessing might be "ie$ed thus:
i) listener has to carry out normal linguistic !rocessing on the
sentence to determine the basic meaning. Words are checked for
conte+t, basic meaning, synta+, and $hat they might mean in the
!resent setting.
ii) listener has to !rocess the meaning in de!th. 6oes he>she ha"e
a foot( Which foot is it 2the original Auestion $as ambiguous in
that it didn't s!ecify)( Where is that foot 2feet)( Am I a$are of
$hat it is doing(
In order to actually !rocess the meaning as in ii) abo"e, the
listener must become 2kinesthetically) a$are of the foot, that there
is a foot, and determine $hat it is currently doing. Additionally,
and since the foot is a !riori resting on the floor as the o!erator
kne$, the im!lication by the o!erator that the foot is resting on the
floor is a "ery subtle !ace, 0/E *3A* IS ;ERI:IE6
EI/ES*3E*I%ALL A/6 IS *37S A%%098A/IE6 &
LEA6I/@ A**E/*I0/ I/*0 EI/ES*3E*I% 906ALI* It
is no ordinary Auestion that is being seducet in those ele"en
innocent sounding $ords, it is a !o$erful !acing Auestion that
simultaneously contains a co"ert kinesthetic lead: the listener has
to 'res!ond' or $ork in Ai and E modes together in terms to make
sense of $hat is going on.
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Example 2: 'Are you aware that/ you can become aware that/
you are blinking?'
'Are you aware that...' (the suggestive predicate)
'...you can become aware that...' 2con"olute the !redicate into an
ongoing !rocess)
'...you are blinking(' 2statement of the !hysically ob"ious... to the
o!erator)
*he end result of this Auestion is that the listener becomes a$are of
F has their attention directed to$ards F something that $as ongoing
yet !re"iously outside their a$areness... and they don't ha"e a lot
of choice in the matter. Again there is a !ace 2the listener is
blinking), and a lead 2the listener $as made a$are of the fact by
the
Auestion), In addition to the lead caused by the search for
"erification F this time in ; and>or E modalities F the more
com!le+ Auestion structure Dho$ does one !rocess if one is a$are
that one can become a$are(D is immediately resol"ed in the
!erformance of the act itself F another !ace.
Example 3: 'I want you to become aware of the process that
takes place when you become aware of your left hand'
*his seducets the listener in an almost im!ossible !osition since
the !rocess F by being suggested F $ill occur in a trice as the
o!erator enunciates the sentence and the listener $ill !robably
miss it. 0nce they are a$are of the left hand they $ill find it
im!ossible to become una$are of it and start again 2any attem!t to
do so $ill ha"e them trying to be a$are of ho$ a a$areness arises
of the left hand R $hich is a$areness of the left hand. An astute
listener could obser"e ho$ a$areness of some other body !art
comes into being of course).
0nce again the com!le+ $ord form F becoming a$are of becoming
a$are F is !resent along $ith the kinesthetic lead to the left hand
and the !ace indicating that a !rocess of becoming takes !lace.
Example 4: 'Has it ever occurred to you that...'
Whate"er follo$s this !hrase may or may not ha"e occurred to the
listener: one thing is for sure, it is going to occur to them no$. *he
suggestion that follo$s the !hrase $ill ha"e to be !rocessed by the
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listener in order to make sense out of it. In other $ords $hate"er is
said, if it is said in terms of a certain !hysical sense or modality,
$ill lead the listener in that modality $hether they like it or not.
If !acing statements are made, they $ill become immediate selfF
fulfilling !ro!hecies insofar as the listener is concerned and, if they
are made to refer to a !articular mode, they $ill lead in that mode.
Taro-san's 'Our world' routine..
*aro san taught me lots of cool stuff 2$hich I a!!lied on 3& Afro
to lay her) $hen telling me this re!ort, so $e'll look at that too.
0kay, here goes.
If you read last $eek's outing re!ort, on tonguing do$n Dcheat
chickD, you $ill remember, that *aroFsan and I $ent to a club, and
$ithin 5 minutes, SE67%E'd a cou!le $omen and before the end
of the night, $ere tonguing them both do$n in the
corner of the bar e"en though they had boyfriends.
I ne"er sa$ mine again 2didn't call her actually, as I mo"ed my
attention to 3& Afro), but *aroFsan follo$ed u! on his.
3ere is $hat ha!!ened.
*aro calls %heatchick II 2%heatchick's friend in the club, $ho also
ended u! cheating on her &:). *aro's goal is to get her to come to
his !lace so he can fuck her 2she li"es $ith her !arents).
%heatchick II is "ery cute, thin, I rate an ?.5..C. 6efinitely an 3&.
2$ill try to get !icture from *aro san to seducet in the lounge).
/o$, cheatchick II has a &:, so *aro has to get !ast this. So first,
he did "alues elicatation, and also found out $hat her relationshi!
$ith her &: $as 2rocky it turns out, he forgot her &Fday last $eek,
and she is "ery !issed). %ool he thinks, a
re"enge fuck !ossiblyG So here is ho$ he $orks it.
:irst *aro san tells me $hat his basic strategy is $ith a chick to
get her o"er, so lets look at that before $e see ho$ he a!!lied it to
the lay.
&efore in"iting the chick o"er, he $ill do basic ground$ork like
me 2kiss closes, kino), but $ith $omen $ith &:s, does something
more at the same time, because he needs to get her o"er all her
guilt about backstabbing her &:.
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So the first thing he does, 2if he didn't at the bar already), is do
fluff, and find her interests, and then shift them to romantic talk
ASA8 like 6a"id Shade does in his A0L chats.
An e+am!le, is if a chick says she likes sno$boarding, he'll then
ask if she e"er had a &: $ho liked sno$boarding, and then start to
talk about the &:, and $hat he $as like, and then mo"e into $hat
she likes in a guy, and relationshi!s, and nature of human beings
2noteI he says this only $orks on smart $omen. 0n dumb $omen
2a!!arently my %heatchick $as a dummie, $hich I already kno$,
the a!!roach I used, $ith a sense of Dad"entureD $orks better.).
So any$ays, then $hat he does is talk about something like $hat a
human being is, their natural desires, and then com!are that $ith
ho$ society restricts you in certain $ays, like one &:, or one
husband 2humm, good idea for a !attern hereG). *hen he talks
about ho$ it is interesting that in other societies, like Arab, or
certain 9ormons 2its not true, but the $omen dont kno$G), the
$oman is free to ha"e se"eral men, and not feel ashamed or
embarressed, because it is natural human feeling any$ays.. but =ust
that in some $estern cultures 2or Asian) this is 2unfairly), looked
do$n. W3ere *aro san introduces the idea of Dour s!ecial $orldD,
something like RH's locket !atternX. 3e talks about our o$n s!ecial
$orld, $here the rules of society don't ha"e to a!!ly Wie. %heating
on your &: is fineX, and $here $e can hold each other>hug, be
comfortable in each others arms, rela+ed, ha!!y and in security.
W3is goal here, is to make her feel secure, and free to betray the
&:, because it is a Dse!arate $orldDX.
After this is done and all setu!, he then makes the !itch for her to
come o"er, to en=oy that se!arate $orld $here they can be together
and hold each other in Dour $orldD. 3e describes ho$ they can
celebrate, hug, and says directly she doesn't
ha"e to ha"e se+ if she doesn't $ant 2security..freedom. but of
course he makes the mo"e $hen she is there). 3e $ill say
something like _3a"e you e"er felt>noticed $hen holding each
other, ho$ it feels good, to connect $ith each other 2good to
run after the I% !attern maybe(), and feel fabulous. I think that se+,
$ell its like a recognition of this connection..directly 2reconition of
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this connection). Wthis is my translation of his Ha!anese of $hat he
said. /otice it is a lot SS>/L8 sounding, e"en though it actually
originates from Ha!an.. coolX. 7sually around this !oint, she
acce!ts to come o"er, and they make the time>date.
:inally, the cou! de grace, is that *aroFsan, here does not hang u!
the !honeG /o$, he sets u! the stage for $hen the chick comes, so
he a"oids DfreakFoutsD like used to ha!!en to me before I fi+ed
$hat I $as doing $rong. /o$ $hat he does on the !hone, is
describe the encounter $hen she $ill come o"er. 3e says Dho$ it
$ill be a $onderful day, $hich you can already imagine no$,.. as I
meet you at the 2station>!lace), I $ill hug you, and that connection
$ill be "isible, I $ill take your hand, and $e $ill begin the =ourney
to Dour $orldD 2his !lace).. and then $hen $e arri"e at the gate, I
$ill kiss you, and $e $ill enter.together. and ho$ nice it $ill be to
connect, hold each other, being free from restrictions of the outside
$orld, $hen $e are in Dour $orldD together, and feeling fabulous
together. and ho$ $onderful that $ill all feel. you can imagine
that.can't you. Wagain, translation from Ha!anese..may be rough in
s!otsX.
*hat is the setFu!, then he hangs u!, and the day to meet the chick
comes.
3e meets the chick, and he hugs her, and says, D$elcome, I am
glad you are coming to share Dour $orldD today, takes her and and
they go to his !lace. At the door, he says D$elcome to Dour $orldD,
and says he $ants to kiss her as they enter, liked they talked on the
!hone. 7sually the chick agrees, and they kiss gently outside
2setting the stage for $hen she gets inside) WnoteFthis is $here
9aniac used to fuck u!, but not any moreGX.
*hey get in, sit do$n, and he talks about that rela+ing secure hug,
and they start to hug on the couch or some!lace. *hen he kisses her
again 2okay, since they already started outside, and since the setu!
$as already all done), and more kissing..and more
touching.neck,..ears, touch breast, crotch..clothes off..fuck.
3e says it $orks e"ery time, and that is $hat he did to cheat chick
II. It ran like clock$ork, and he could fuck her after about ,1
minutes after they got in.
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So there you goG 0!inions>constructi"e comments $elcomeG
9aniac
transition phrases (normal talk to x talk)!
/%, that is good but u also ha"e to remember to let her kno$ u
ha"e a life
too. Imagine if all the other !erson did $as ask u Auestions about
your life..
you $ould get the im!ression they ha"e none of their o$n.
I disagree. if all someone did $as ask 9E about my life, I $ould
ASS79E that
they are interested in me as a human being...
es i $ould assume that too, i $ould also tend to think that they
are obsessing a
little and that their o$n li"es are lacking in some $ay seeing as
they donJt $ant to
tell me anything about their o$n li"es.
the thing is that if you do it RI@3*, they don't /0*I%E that they
are the only
ones talking. furthermore, they are so used to A:%s telling them
about
*3E9SEL;ES and going on and on *ALEI/@ that they are
relie"ed and grateful to
meet someone that $ants to LIS*E/ to them and %ARES about
them as human beings in general instead of bigFtittedFbitches in
!articular.
Sometimes $hen i tried Auestion bombardment a!!roach i $ould
get ans$ers like
D$hats this ,1 Auestions or somethingD 2!erha!s i $as =ust asking
the $rong
Auestions or !erha!s that style =ust isnt suited for my beha"iour
and !ersonality)
the $ay you say it, I am S7RE you use disconnected Auestions.
Auestions on
6I::ERE/* to!ics. you can't get a$ay $ith that at all. $hat you
ha"e to do is
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S*RI/@ your to!ics from *A/@E/*S from the original to!ic.
make it look like a
continuous flo$ so that they /E;ER E/6 telling you about the
first thing they
started talking about.
you: $hat do you do(
her: blah blah $orking $ith kids...
you: the kids must be ro$dy
her: yes they are hard to control blah blah
you: I used to be like that too... $hen I $as a kid...
her: I had the same thing ha!!en to me...
you: ho$ old $ere you $hen that ha!!ened(
her: I $as '- blah blah
you: did you li"e $ith your !arents(
her: no, they had di"orced $hen I $as '1...
you: damn... that must ha"e been tough on you...
her: I learned to sur"i"e on my o$n...
you: my friend had that ha!!en to her also... she likes to li"e alone
no$
her: me too... that's $hy I don't ha"e a roommate &LA3 &LA3
&LA3
you see ho$ DsheD /E;ER got to change to!ics( you kee!
changing to!ics based
on *A/@E/*S to the original to!ic and it SEE9S like you are
still asking her
about the first Auestion AL*307@3 the to!ic has changed like <
times :)
$hat I think 07 are doing is:
you: $hat do you do(
her: blah blah $orking $ith kids...
you: did you li"e $ith both of your !arents until college(
her: no, they had di"orced $hen I $as '1...
you: do you ha"e any roommates(
her: W3A*'S WI*3 *3E :7%EI/@ ,1 L7ES*I0/S(
and get them to
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talk abou themsel"es and go dee!er and dee!er into them $ithout
di"ulging
A/ information of my o$n.
dee!er and dee!er.. i like the sound of that...
ha ha ha... it's funny, but you kno$ $hat( that is one of the ma=or
differences that $ill get you noticed. 90S* guys go Dso did you
ha"e both of your !arentsD and she says DnoD and they say Dlook...
there's a mo"ie !laying... $anna go(D they ask Auestions that
don't tell them A/*3I/@ about the chick and then ask them
out... in effect, they are fucking u! their :L7::I/@ because they
are /0* distinguishing her from any other chick, although they
*3I/E they are. learning about her as a !erson is much dee!er
than light Auestioning, and the thing that turns $omen on the most
is $hen they &ELIE;E that you are into them because of some
7/IL7E/ESS that they ha"e. something you see in them 0/L
that you don't see in other $omen and makes them e+tremely
attracti"e to you. they don't kno$ that the only $ay they can reallt
se!erate themsel"es out is ha"ing the better *ZA than the ne+t
chick. they think that men that are attracted 0/L to bodies are
dogs, etc. by your dee!er
Auestioning, you se!erate yourself from the other suitors because
you make them
*3I/E. you make them 6I@ for ans$ers. they :EEL differently
after baring their soul to you than after telling you $here they got
their hair done and ho$ much it cost.
:) any$ay... I looked bad because I looked like I had no life
because I couldn't *ELL 3ER $hat I do $ithout gi"ing a$ay my
game :) before that though, I $as fine.
3ey bro, you could make u! a story.. you dont ha"e to tell her ..
you are a
Seducessy collector
yes :) I kno$ that :) the !oint is that I $as S*7%E right then and
there , feet in front of her face across a small table. I immediately
u!on lea"ing her 6E%I6E6 to ha"e some bullshit stories !re!ared
like I go to museums and other shit that I don't do that S3E might
find interesting to get around that Auestion :)
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I say gi"e out as little information about your life as you can.
Women can't !rocess facts... only feelings... taking her through
metaFstates by asking 3ER things and getting her to e+!erience
them in her mind is 97%3 &E**ER than letting her kno$ you
o$n a yacht or some bullshit.
u r right here.. i =ust meant that at least let her kno$ that u ha"e a
life outside of getting girls 2at least thats ho$ i see it)
I don't kno$ ho$ it goes for you, but $hen I look back, 90S*
$omen I ha"e had
kno$ /0*3I/@ about me. then again, being a natural, they =ust
find themsel"es attracted to me and that's all they need to kno$. I
don't ha"e any other data to go on, because I ha"e not been anyone
but 9E my $hole life :) I ha"e ne"er been a talker... that's $hy I
started studying this mental seduction stuff.
What I talk about $ith $omen is $hate"er the e"ent is I meet them
at or $hat
they $ant in a man. they al$ays come u! $ith *RAI*S, not
s!ecific things, e+ce!t maybe height or hair color. $hat they
*ELL 9E they $ant is easily demonstrated to them through stories
and I don't ha"e to tell them A/*3I/@ directly. I $ould ne"er
say DI lo"e cats myself...D I $ould tell them a story I/ W3I%3 I
demonstrated that I like cats. I let her deri"e $ho I am by telling
her a story based on $hat she $ants to hear in the first !lace :)
that's $hy $hen I see guys talking to girls in bars for like A/
307R and the chick /E;ER looks se+ually interested in them, I
laugh because they are s!e$ing :A%*S to them ho!ing that that
$ill make them interested in fucking.
that is so true... but usually /% its because the guys =ust dont
kno$ any better or are not e"en sure if they really $ant to do a one
night stand 2there are guys in clubs $ho look for R>shi!s)..
trust me :) looking for a relationshi! 0R /0*, guys $ant the
fucking seducessy
ASA8. if they could figure out ho$ to get her on her knees in the
bathroom, they $ould do it. I hear $hat you are saying about
$anting to get to kno$ a chick, but I s$ear that I see these guys
A88I/@ and A88I/@ and A88I/@ and the girl nods e"ery
'?.
once in a $hile and looks at me once in a $hile since she is
bored :)
eah kee!ing the mystery element ali"e sounds good.
&ut like if a chick kno$s ne+t to nothing about you, she might start
asking a Lot of Auestions later or =ust feel a!!rehensi"e about the
situation.
later is *00 LA*E :0R 3ER :) later, you already fucked her.
later, she already has an emotional in"estment in you. later, she is
finding out information about her lo"er, /0* of some guy that
$ants to fuck her... so :7%E LA*ERG hehe
$hat if you tell her you are a =anitor for an office building... and
she $as
:A/*ASIÌ/@ that you $ere a chi!!endales stri!!er :)
$ould she do that for no reason( and u $ouldnt say =anitor, you
$ould say an
en"ironmentally focused officer yes she $ould. I am e+aggerating
here, but let's say she assumed from ho$ you are dressed or your
demeanor that you are a blueFcollar $orking man that likes
muscleFcars A/6 she ha!!ens to find that e+tremely se+y... then
07 offer her the information for /0 REAS0/ that you are a
$hiteFcollar comseduceterFnerd that likes to 6RESS 78 like a
blueFcollar guy and go out on the $eekends. to add insult to
in=ury, $hat if she has already dated comseduceterFguys and found
them ALL boring( then you ha"e lum!ed yourself in $ith a grou!
that is leading you to LH&:... /0* to seducessy :)
008SG shoulda left her to her fantasy
Toecutter, and using the laws of power!
Subject: Lessons from Book: The 48 Laws of Power
Hust reading a book, *he .? La$s of 8o$er by Robert @reene.
6efinitely lessons e"ery$here in the book on $hat $e do here.
*he book is amoral, and o!en about the dece!tion inherit in $hat
he is teaching. It is largely for life outside the arena of seduction,
but entrirely a!!licable and there are some seduction e+am!les in it
to illustrate his !oints 2only historical: :or e+am!le the ad"ice of
/inon de Lenclos on seduction to the 9arAuis de Se"igne and
$hat ha!!ened $hen the 9arAuis did not follo$ her ad"ice, etc.).
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*he e+am!les are all seducelled from the Sun *4u 2%hinese, the
Art of War), Euro!ean history, famous con men, magicians and
charlatans, Eings, Lueens, /a!oleon and other !o$er brokers such
as Al %a!one. 8erfect for you guys $ho en=oy 9achia"elli. At .51
reasonably large format !ages it is fairly long.
It is going to take me se"eral reFreadings, but at the moment I see
the messages as really - fold: :irst, !lay your cards !retty close to
your chest. *his creates mystery. *he more you say, the more
common you a!!ear and the less in control. Andy Wohol created
enigma by not discussing his $ork and ans$ering Auestions by
being intentionally "ague gi"ing !eo!le the feeling that he $as
being more !rofound than he $as. If you do not re"eal all, !eo!le
$ill ne"er become bored $ith you or your !resence because you
$ill continue to re!resent a challenge, and $ill be eternally
interesting.
our silence $ill make other !eo!le feel uncomfortable and
humans are machines of inter!retation and e+!lanationI they ha"e
to kno$ $hat you are thinking. When you carefully control $hat
you re"eal, they cannot !ierce your intentions and meaning. our
short ans$ers $ill seducet them on the defensi"e and they $ill
=um! in, ner"ously filling the silence $ith all kinds of comments
that $ill re"eal "aluable information about themsel"es and their
$eaknesses.
*his brings me to the second message. Learn e"erything you can
about other !eo!le. *heir strengths and $eaknesses, their crutches
and trance $ords.
*heir moti"ations. 7se these to your ad"antage $hilst re"ealing as
little as !ossible about yourself. Eee! them the focus of the
con"ersation, and be a 'S!y' on their minds by eliciting "alues.
*he third lesson is to use smoke and mirrors to obscure your
ob=ecti"es and
moti"ations. *hro$ decoys out there, use gifts as *ro=an horses,
and be circums!ect in $hat is going on. Again, this thro$s them
off your game, gi"es you an u!!er hand.
/one of this is to say that you need to be Auiet or a bad
con"ersationalist, =ust the o!!osite, by s!ying and eliciting "alues,
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you are encouraging !eo!le to talk about themsel"es, their o$n
fa"ourite sub=ect. &y being brief about yourself you are creating
mystery and interest. It is =ust that you are collecting the
information in order to use it against them at another time, $hilst
maniseducelating your image and reseducetation in their minds and
obscuring your real moti"ations. In some $ays it is a book on
!laying hard to get $hile outmanoeu"ring the girl. A !erfect
structure in $hich to dro! SS.
Some of the content is belo$. I can !ost more on it if you $ould
like further discussionI I am o"erflo$ing $ith ideas on it.
Toecutter.
*o list some of the la$s that are ob"iously a!!licable:
La$ -: %onceal your intentions 2Eee! !eo!le off balance and in
the dark by ne"er re"ealing the seducer!ose behind your actions. If
they ha"e no clue $hat you are u! to, they cannot !re!are a
defence. @uide them far enough do$n the $rong !ath, en"elo!
them in enough smoke, and by the time they realise your
intentions, it $ill be too late.)
La$ .: Al$ays say less than is necessary
La$ <: %ourt attention at all costs
La$ ?: 9ake other !eo!le come to you F use bait if necessary
La$ C: Win though your actions, ne"er through argument. 2Any
momentary trium!h you $in though argument is really a 8yrrhic
"ictory: *he resentment and ill $ill you stir u! is stronger and lasts
longer than any momentary change in o!inion. It is much more
!o$erful to get others to agree $ith you though your actions,
$ithout saying a $ord. 6emonstrate, do not e+!licate.)
La$ '1: Infection: A"oid the unha!!y and unlucky 2it $orks the
other $ay also. *his is an alternati"e take on socialF!roof, or !i"ots
or $hate"er you $ant to call them, as $ell as $ingmen. Also
ad"ice on not getting in"ol"ed $ith the $rong girl.)
La$ '': Learn to kee! !eo!le de!endent on you.
La$ ',: 7se selecti"e generosity to disarm your "ictim 20ne
sincere and honest mo"e $ill co"er o"er do4ens of dishonest ones.
0!enhearted gestures of honesty and generosity bring do$n the
guard of e"en the most sus!icious !eo!le. 0nce your selecti"e
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honesty o!ens a hole in their armour, you can decei"e and
maniseducelate at $ill.)
La$ '-: When asking for hel!, a!!eal to !eo!le's self interest,
ne"er to their mercy or gratitude.
La$ '.: 8ose as a friend, $ork as a s!y.
La$ '<: 7se absence to increase res!ect and honour. 2Again
through mystery
and not stuffing it u! by staying too long and doing or saying
something $rong.)
La$ 'B: Eee! others in sus!ended terror: %ulti"ate an air of
un!redictability
La$ '?: 6o not build fortresses to !rotect yourself F Isolation is
dangerous. 2@et out there amongst them).
La$ 'C: Eno$ $ho you are dealing $ith F do not offend the $rong
!erson.
La$ ,1: 6o not commit yourself to anyone.
La$ ,': 8lay a sucker to catch a sucker F a!!ear dumber than your
mark. 2Let
her think that she is in control and smart, less nai"e, don't let on
you are a !layer).
La$ ,5: ReFcreate yourself 26o not acce!t the roles that society
foists on you. ReFcreate yourself by forging a ne$ identity, one
that commands attention and ne"er bores the audience. &e the
master of your o$n image rather than letting others define it for
you. Incor!orate dynamic de"ices into your seduceblic gestures
and actions F your !o$er $ill be enhanced and your character $ill
seem larger than life).
La$ ,<: Eee! your hands clean. 2ou must seem a !aragon of
ci"ility and efficiency: our hands are ne"er soiled by mistakes
and nasty deeds. 9aintain such a s!otless a!!earance by using
others as sca!egoats and cat' sF!a$s to disguise your in"ol"ement).
La$ ,B: 8lay on !eo!les need to belie"e to create a cult like
follo$ing. 2ad"ice in this cha!ter is on ho$ to become a cult leader
or maybe build a harem. 5 strategies to your dogmaG a) Eee! it
"agueI Eee! it sim!le b) Em!hasise the "isual and sensual o"er the
intellectual c) &orro$ the forms of organised religion to structure
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the grou! d) 6isguise your income source e) set u! an usF"s.Fthem
dynamic. I think Ross Heffries read this oneG)
La$ ,?: Enter action $ith &oldness. 2If you are unsure of a course
of action, do not attem!t it. our doubts and hesitations $ill infect
your e+ecution. *imidity is dangerous: &etter to enter $ith
boldness. Any mistakes you make through audacity are easily
corrected $ith more audacity. E"eryone admires the boldI no one
honours the timid).
La$ ,C: 8lan all the $ay to the end.
La$ -1: 9ake your accom!lishments seem effortless. 2our
actions must seem natural and e+ecuted $ith ease. All the toil and
!ractice that goes into them, also all the cle"er tricks, must be
concealed. When you act, act effortlessly, as if you could do much
more. A"oid the tem!tation of re"ealing ho$ hard you $ork F it
only raises Auestions. *each no one your tricks or they $ill be used
against you .. I am breaking this rule right here $ith this !ost, as is
the Authour of the book.)
La$ -': %ontrol the o!tions: @et others to !lay $ith the cards you
deal.
2*he best dece!tions are the ones that seem to gi"e the other
!erson a choice: our "ictims feel they are in control, but are
actually your seduce!!ets. @i"e !eo!le o!tions that come out in
your fa"our $hiche"er one they choose. :orce them to make
choices bet$een the lesser of t$o e"ils, both of $hich ser"e your
seducer!ose. Seducet them on the horns of the dilemma: they are
gored $here"er they turn. /ote: this is a different "ie$ on my idea
of reFframing Auestions. *he Auestions are reFframed so $ell that
the girl has no o!tion.)
La$ -,: 8lay to !eo!le's fantasies.
La$ --: 6isco"er each mans thumbscre$.
La$ -.: &e royal in your o$n fashion: Act like a king to be treated
like one.
La$ -5: 9aster the art of timing. 2/e"er seem to be in a hurry R
hurrying betrays a lack of control o"er yourself, and o"er time.
Al$ays seem !atient, as if you kno$ that e"erything $ill come to
you e"entually. &ecome a detecti"e of the right momentI sniff out
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the s!irit of the times, the trends that $ill carry you to !o$er.
Learn to stand back $hen the time is not yet ri!e, and to strike
fiercely $hen it has reached fruition.)
La$ -<: 6isdain things you cannot ha"e: Ignoring them is the best
re"enge.
La$ -B: %reate com!elling s!ectacles. 2Striking imagery and
grand symbolic gestures create the aura of !o$er F e"eryone
res!onds to them. Stage s!ectacles for those around you, then, full
of arresting "isuals and radiant symbols to heighten your !resence.
6a44led by a!!earances, no one $ill notice $hat you are really
doing.)
La$ .1: 6es!ise the free Lunch.
La$ .-: Work on the hearts and minds of others.
La$ ..: 6isarm and infuriate $ith the mirror effect. 2*he mirror
reflects reality, but is the !erfect tool for dece!tion: When you
mirror your enemies, doing e+actly as they do, they cannot figure
out your strategy. *he mirror Effect mocks and humiliates them,
making them o"erreact. &y holding u! a mirror to their !syches,
you seduce them $ith the illusion that you share their "aluesI by
holding u! a mirror to their actions you teach them a lesson. :e$
can resist the !o$er of the mirror effect.)
La$ .?: Assume formlessness. 2&y taking a sha!e, by ha"ing a
"isible !lan, you o!en yourself to attact. Instead of taking a form
for the girl to gras!, kee! yourself ada!table and on the mo"e.
Acce!t the fact that nothing is certain and no la$ is fi+ed. *he best
$ay to !rotect yourself is to be asfluid and formless as $ater:
ne"er bet on stability or lasting order.E"erything changes.)
"Someone" writes on his Basic Pickup Attempt with common
mistakes
3ey
3ere's the my !roblem 2I don't kno$ if it can be called a
!roblem :8)I'"e met this girl a fe$ months ago in a gothic bar, and
she had and still has a boyfriend.. Well I do not li"e in the same
city as her, $e li"e about '51 miles a$ay from each other..
Well, $e Auickly started a great con"ersation $hile her boyfriend
$as some$here, and $e both $ere really ok talking to each other
'C1
immediatly.. So $e really liked each other.. - days later I got a
letter from her, I re!lied, and so $e did started $riting each other. I
told her almost immediatly I considered her ;ER ;ER
beautiful 2and she really is)..
Well about
' month later she told me she $anted to see me again, so I got
myself on a train and $ent to meet her, and $e really had a great
day together, =ust like $e $ere the best friends, that is: no
intimacy.. Later that day $hen I $as back home $e talked on the
!hone and she told me she $as missing me a lot..
*he ne+t $eek she came here, and so $e did had a damn beautiful
day together, but things got a little different, $e $alked holding
hands together all day, but nothing more.. After all, she has a
boyfriend.. We ke!t talking on the !hone e"eryday, she al$ays
told me she missed me.. And finally she told me that she thought
she $as in lo"e $ith me...
Well I $ent back there a $eek later, $ent to her !lace, met her
family, $hen I $as alone $ith her in her bedroom she sim!ly gi"es
me this huge hug, and $e stayed that $ay for Auite some time.. We
did hug each other again and again during the day, but $e ne"er
really kissed, not on the li!s at least.. E"en though $e $ere
together in a !lace $here many of her friends 2and boyfriend's
friends) could e"entually see us together, $e did hold hands all
day.. She told me she didn't $ant me to go back home.. &ut I really
had to..
So she is coming back this $eek.. And e"erything is set to ha!!en..
Any$ay, I am
really confused.. I'"e got a lot of unans$ered Auestions in my mind
like: DWhy doesn't she lea"e her boyfriend(D, DWhy doesn't she
kiss me(D, DWhy doesn't she really tell me $hat she $ants from
me(D... I am so damn confused... She al$ays kne$ $hat I feel for
her, $ith e"ery little detail.. I didn't..
I =ust can't kiss her because she has a boyfriend, and because I
don't $ant to risk that she gets mad at me for any reason, I =ust
din't $ant to force anything.. And I can't ask her directly because
almost in the beggining of this relationshi! bet$een the t$o of us
'C'
started I asked her if she liked me 2She told me back then she
sim!ly didn't kno$, but that I attracted her a lot in a $ay she
couldn't e+!lain, and she also said that all this could get "ery big),
but she told me she $as sad because I asked her that.. So no$ I
don't $ant to risk her being sad $ith me again...
I $ould a!!reciate any ad"ice, ti!, or ideas by anyone, if !ossible
re!ly to my email directly, because I am ha"ing some !roblems
$ith my ne$s ser"er...
*hank you in ad"ance
This report is good because of the 'negative' commands yaritai
tells the chick to 'not do' regarding the clothes. Cool!
Subject: Recovering A Rejected Kiss (field report)
6ate: Wed, ,1 6ec ,111 '5:5C:5? V1C11
3i guys,
I fucked u! but looks like I reco"ered ok. 3ere's the story.
*3E SE67%E
9et chick at bar a cou!le of $eeks ago. :luff talk, !lus I had social
!roof going on. @ot SE67%E'd by an ?.5 right in front of her 2G).
After 3&?.5 lea"es, I continue to talk to 3&*all 2<.5 F B). She asks
me if I ha"e a girlfriend and I say Dyeah, lotsG you(D She says that
she's en"ious and that she's got a bf. I ask her $hy she's en"ious,
she doesn't really ans$er clearly, but basically says that it must be
nice to associate $ith lots of different !eo!le. I ask her if her one
bf is enough. She asserts that he is more than enough. I continue
talking about other stuff. After a bit, she gets ready to lea"e, and I
casually say Dhey, $ould you like to see me again(D She
res!onds, DyesD. She gi"es me her number.
GROUNDWORK
I tell her that I'm going to make her dinner and to come to my
!lace. She says that she $ouldn't feel comfortable doing that, that
it might be DdangerousD IF). so I say ok, let's go out, I don't care.
We go out for dinner, talk and set some future e+!ectations that $e
$ill see each other again soon, by mentioning some things that $e
should do sometime>ne+t time.
After dinner, $e go to Earaoke, but I fuck u! and didn't get a
chance to kiss her. 8lus, she $as being Auite distant and cold and I
'C,
didn't $ant to force the situation. After karaoke, $e head home and
I figure, that's ok, I'll get her ne+t time. *onight $as flirtatious
enough to generate interest.
End of the night, $hen !arting, I tell her that I $ill make dinner for
her ne+t time. She doesn't re=ect or agree to it.
MORE GROUNDWORK
Setting u! the second DdateD. I'm still not sure I $ant her, e+actly.
/ot sure if she's $orth the effort, but she's a decent chick. I decide
to do a bit of a takea$ay and suggest $e go out for dinner instead.
*hen come back to my !lace for desert. We go out for dinner, and
come back. She's distant and really makes me feel like the last
thing on her mind is romance. I'"e gotta make my mo"e, but =ust as
I'm about to, she says she must go home, it's late. *his came as a
sur!rise as it $as only '1:-1!m, and it "iolates my rule that you
should kiss her on your first DdateD, but I ha"e to $ork the ne+t
morning too, and I'm figuring I $on't get laid tonight any$ay, so I
think that's fine. I kne$ $e'd be seeing each other again, 'cause I
can tell that she really likes me. Any$ay, I use the abru!t ending to
my ad"antage 2or trying to reco"er, $hiche"er $ay you look at itG)
and tell her on the $ay to the train station, Dsee( I'm not dangerous.
I'm not a little teenage boy that has no control o"er his se+uality.D
She seems actually I98RESSE6 by this, and says that she $as
sur!rised that I hadn't tried to =um! her. 2See( She $as e+!ecting
me to and therefore had her defences u!.)
OVERCOMING RE1ECTION
6uring the $eek, set u! a time for me to make her dinner. She tells
me in her email not to DattackD her. I tell her that although I could
resist the one time, I really don't kno$ that I can resist again. I tell
her that she can hel! me resist though, by not $earing a short skirt,
not $earing any makeu!, not seducetting on !erfume, not $ashing
her hair, no =e$elry, etc. *hen I definitely $on't e"en WA/* to go
near her. Sends an email back saying that she $ill hel! me by not
doing any of those things. She'll ha"e no makeu!, $ear =eans, etc...
2*his is gold by the $ay.)
'C-
9eet her and guess $hat( 0f course, she's $earing a skirt,
makeu!, her hair is done nicely, =e$elry, se+y boots, etc. I kne$
she'd do that.
So, no$ I kno$ she WA/*S it, and I didn't e"en ha"e to be an
A:% to find outG 2Reread the first !aragra!h if you doubt this.)
3a"e dinner and at some !oint $here our heads are "ery close
together, I grab her chin and go for it.
S3E 90;ES AWA A/6 SAS '6A9E'GGG 2Ha!anese lesson:
DdameD, DdaD sounds
like DdoD in DdotD, and DmeD as in DmetD, means Dbad>not
right>$rong>noD.)
W*:(((((
%an't get her to kiss me. 0E. *hat's fine, mo"e on to en=oying the
rest of the e"ening.
%ontinue talking and in the middle of her sentence, I grab her
hands and seducell her to$ards me. She says DdameD again. *hen I
tell her it's not DdameD
and that if she doesn't ha"e to continue if she doesn't like it. *hat
doesn't $ork. I then ask her $hy it's DdameD and she says D=ust
becauseD.
0k, so there's no s!ecific reason. @reatG I can $ork $ith this. *hen
I continue, but can't get her to kiss me, so I say Doh, I see, you feel
guilty because of your boyfriendD, to $hich she ans$ers Dyeah...D
9e: So, are you engaged to him(
3er: /oG
9e: 6o you $ant to marry him(
3er: /o.
9e: So, it's only guilt, because you WA/* to kiss me, don't you(
23aG I =ust got re=ected '1 mintues agoGGG)
3er: 2softly) I don't kno$. 6A9E.
9e: 2seducelling her closer, she's resisting a bit still) &ut I kno$
you $ant to kiss me. *hat's ho$ you :EEL, isn't it(
3er: 2softly) 6on't kno$.
9e: *ell me that you 60/'* $ant to and I'll sto!. 2kee!
seducelling her in)
3er: mmm...
'C.
9e: ou're thinking too much. Sto! thinking and :EEL $hat you
WA/*. 2still resisting a bit)
3er: mmm...
9e: I kno$ you $ant me. 2/L8() 2"ery little resistance left)
3er: mmm...
9e: 6o $hat you :EEL is right, not $hat you *3I/E is right...
2sto!s resisting)
*hen $e kiss and she reci!rocates. She's into it.
&ut she's still feeling guilty and sto!s. 9ore of the same, in a nice
lo$, se+y tone, talking about the fact that she WA/*S me, but =ust
feels guilty because of her bf...
Resume kissing. 6o this a fe$ times... &y the end of the e"ening,
she's attacking me, hands roaming, etc.
FALLING SHORT
In the end she didn't ca"e in because it's her time of the month, but
$e ha"e set u! to get together again in a cou!le of $eeks 2I'm busy
during this time and can't meet her). *here's no Auestion about
$hat $ill ha!!en then, though I su!!ose it's !ossible that she
changes her mind. Wait and see.
0ne im!ortant note to remember is that at no time during the
e"ening did I get u!set o"er anything. Re=ection is not al$ays
re=ection. She had to seducet u! some barriers to =ustify cheating
on her bf.
*ake $hat you can from this if there is anything of "alue here
folksG
:eedback>comments(
aritai
*onight, something "ery interesting ha!!ened, I ran into a guy
using a ne$ sarging a!!roach, $hich I must say is different, but
$as "ery effecti"e. *he result, lots of 3&sGG Shitloads of kissing
2$ithin , minutes of meeting the $omenG)G 8hone /umbers, and
babes from hea"en.
I am going to describe $hat this guy 2and I $ith him as I !icked it
u! from in during the night) $as doing, and then $ould be "ery
interested to get your o!inions on ho$>$hy this $as e"en
$orking,I $as shockedGG
'C5
0kay, here goes.. Sorry, the $riting is a mess, I $anted to get it
do$n before I forget $hat he $as doing because this $as =ust so
incredible.. $ht this SE67%ER $as doing, and $hat I learned
from him tonight..,
*onight, I $ent $ith *aro to an area in *okyo called Ro!!ongi, a
big nightclub and going out area 2e"er been to a !lace, $here there
are '5 story buildings, and each floor is a different club( Well that
is Ro!!ongi, a!!arently its got the biggest density of night life 2'
sAuare mile by '1 floor buildings all o"er) any $here in the $orld.
We arri"ed at midnight, and $ent to a dance bar. It $as a rather
une"entful e"ening until about ,am, trying to make eye contact,
talking a bit to ladies, not much luck..loud music and "ery cro$ded
!lace.
*hen all of the sudden, $hile I $as near the dance floor, I got
grabbed by a guy, to dance $ith this girl 2he $as behind her, I $as
in front), in that sand$ich style. *he guy I didnJt kno$, but as I
$ould find out later during the e"ening, he is one of the best and
smoothest SE67%ERJs I ha"e e"er seen o!erate, and he had a
"ery unusual style, $hich $as e+tremely effecti"e. DSmoothD is
,<, a"erage looking Ha!anese guy,
$earing casual clothes, basically nothing that a girl $ould like on
=ust looks alone. 3is secret, $as $hat he said 2and didnJt say), and
his "ery careful use of non "erbal communications to slide girls
do$n the sli!!ery slo!e of first re!ecting us, and then liking us.
We $ere able to !ick u! 3& $omen, get them to like us, and
kissing us $ithin 5 minutes flat.
3e came alone to bars, not $ith a $ingman, and rather than go u!
to a girl, and introduce himself, like most guys do, but rather, gain
ra!!ort through introducing me 2and not himself) to the girls. I
$ould do like$ise 2you e"er hear the story about the t$o russian
admirals $ho started out as soldiers, and al$ays com!limented the
other in their absense to su!eriors till they both got to be
admirals..$ell this is
$hat he $as doing, $ith anchors, touching, "isuali4ation,
=ealousy..etc).I
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he $ould go u! to a grou! of girls 2and he $ouldnJt $ait for eye
contact or anything, heJd =ust go u!), and introduce me 2or $hich
e"er guy he could find around him), to the target $omen, lightly
seducet his arms around both $omen 2not in a imtimidating $ay,
but a freinly $ay and say ho$ such a great guy I $as to the girls.
3e $ould basically get ra!!ort $ith the girls saying ho$ great I
$as 2he didnJt e"en kno$ me actually), and not !aying attention to
any !articular girl. 3eJd say ho$ $e should all be friends and get
to kno$ each other more, because 2he said), I really like Ha!anese
girls, and I thought they $ere so cute 2and $e only hit on Cs and
'1s, so they $ere all cute). I $as =ust $atching this, and didnJt say
much myself, but o"er the e"ening $ith different $omen, I started
to do the same thing $ith the girls regarding him 2ho$ he is so
great guy, $eJ"e kno$n each other a lot, as a ra!!ort mechanism).
3e $as "ery casual, cool, and ironically, made !oor eye contact
$ith e"eryone, but talked authoritati"ly as $ell as rela+ed. 3eJd
ne"er argue $ith a girl, but =ust usually re!eat something about
ho$ nice it $as to be friends, or ho$ great I $as, or ho$ it $ould
be fun to go eat or something, each time $e got resistance.
3eJd then describe states to the girls, but using me in the conte+t,
ie. 3ed say that I like her because her hair $as so smooth and
gentle..etc..etc, $hile he $ould touch her hair. 3e $as also
anchoring $ithout kno$ning it, because e"erytime heJd say
something to her about ho$ I $as a great guy, or ho$ I thought
she $as cute 2I donJt s!eak much Ha!anese, so he could get a$ay
$ith this), he $ould ta! her gently
on the shoulder, or seducet his arm around her $aist and bring her
closer to me. *hen heJd say more ho$ I thought she $as nice, and
I $as a great guy, and re!eat again ho$ $e should get to kno$
each other, heJd gently take both our heads, and seducesh them
together for a kiss, in a =oking $ay. *he girl $ould usually refuse,
and then heJd say ho$ I really liked her, and gesture the cheek, and
sheId kiss me there 2or IJd kiss her there), then heJd get the other to
reci!rocate the kiss. After that, he talked about ho$ that $as really
nice, and ho$ it $as good $e $ere getting on so $ell, and ho$ it
$ould be good to get a real kiss.
'CB
At the same time, he is already gently getting closer to the girl that
3E $anted, his arm around her $aist, $hile doing the $hole kiss
routine $ith me and the other girl. 3e is laughing, and so is the
other chick2s). *hen my chick and $e $ould kiss 2he $ould gently
coa+ both our heads together), and at the same time, I ha"e already
got my arm around my chick no$. We are being light and funny,
being "ery o"ert about $hat $e could get the girls to do, and doing
a high 5 2me and Smooth) each time $e made !rogress $ith a
chick 2kiss, cheek, arms..etc). *hen $eJd talk a little more to the
$omen 2nothing hea"y to!ic, no o"ert /L8, no !atterns, =ust
touching lightly,but as the ,1 minutes goes on, holding longer and
longer to hands, neck .. etc .. etc). 3e no$ $as doing the same
thing $ith his chick. A cou!le minutes later heJd say again ho$ $e
$ere getting on so $ell, and ho$ the girl had made such a good
choice to choose me because I $as such a good guy, and that he
$anted to see us 2me and my chick) kiss again, since $e $ere such
a nice cou!le and relating so $ell. &y that time, I had been holding
her hand 2this started $hen he told the girl I $as really liking her
because she $as so nice and he took her hand and seducet it on
mine). *hen he took the hand of his chick, $ho $as laughing and
giggling through this. After $e all got through our kisses $ith our
res!ecti"e $omen, $eJd say ho$ they are so fun and nice and $e
are so ha!!y $e met them and got to kno$ them, and $eJd say
$eJd lo"e to get a chance to talk more, and get to kno$ each other
better. *heyJd ask ho$ $e could do that and IJd ask them 2all of
them), their !hone
numbers. IJd collect them, and kiss my girl again a nice long kiss,
and then say $e ha"e to go, and $e mo"ed on to the ne+t $omen
in the bar 2and $e didnJt take long, maybe 5F'1 seconds), and
=um! in front of the ne+t !air>threesome of $omen and do the
entire routine o"er,
So $hat did $e get for the night. Well, I kissed more $omen that I
can remember, got a shitload of numbers 2'5 or so() of most of the
3&s in the !lace, lots of touching, and they $ere all cra4y about us
at the end of the routine, $hich $as around ,1 minutes or so. 0"er
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the e"ening, as I learned his style, I $ould reci!rocate, and $e got
better results e"en.
*his $as $orking any$here, $e got a bunch of girls in bars, and
t$o sets on the street near the clubs that $e $ere able to start
making out $ith right on the street $ithin about , minutes of
meeting themGG 3is o!ener for the kiss $ith one !air $as really
good. We $alked right u! to t$o 3&s and he did his Dmy friend is
a great guy routine and really likes youD, like before, and then got
her to agree that I $as a nice
guy too. *hen he said thatJs great, so lets =anFken 2!lay rock
scissors !a!er), and the loser 2of me and the chick) has to kiss 2ie.
/o matter $ho $ins..the chick and I end u! kissing..in reality), $e
!layed, she lost, and I ga"e her a short kiss on the li!s right in the
street <1 seconds after meeting her. *hen he continued the abo"e
routine, in the !re". !aragra!h, and $e ended u! kissing more. I
said that no$ $e 2me and my chick) kissed, so no$ I $anted to see
him and his chick kiss..they did.. Again, the high fi"es each time
$e got a chick to do something, right in front of them..it $as like a
game sho$ our attitudes $ith the $omen, and they got into it too.
&*W, the chick I kissed in <1 seconds $as only 'C, I am -', heJs
,< and his chick $as 'C too. *hey $ere cra4y about us too after
about '1 minutes of this, $e got their numbers, and then $alked u!
the street ,1 feet and did the same routine all o"er again $ith the
ne+t t$o 3&s.
@uys, I donJt kno$ $hy, but this $orks. If you get a good !artner,
you can really hit on a chick $ithout hitting on her, if you are
doing it for the other guy,because actually you arent really hitting
on herGG
2it hel!s if the other guy is reci!rocating..or e"en if heJs not,
because you can do the mo"es on your chick, $hile describing ho$
its nice for the other chick and the other guy to do the same thing,
right in front of your o$n target). Like I said, he $as =ust grabbing
guys in the bar and introcuding them to $omen $hen there $ere
grou!s ..the other guys though didnt s!eak much =a!anese, so didnt
get "ery far, but $e did great and $ill go ne+t $eek and get more
$omen, once I finish $ith all the numbers I got.
'CC
We did $ell, e"eryone $as a C or '1, one chick $earing "ery se+y
black hot !ants and half to!, and she $as all o"er me like glue by
the end.
Se"erl others, I cant remember,I $as necking $ith one for 5
minutes. We got all their numbers and they $ere !leading for us to
call them by the end each time. Shitloads of $omen.. IJd ne"er had
a night like this before..this guy is @006GG
0h, that $as the other thing, often, $hen $eJd first introduce to a
chick, theyJd try to blo$ us out. &ut Smooth $ould ne"er gi"e u!
on $omen as long as there $as interaction 2e"en if it $as negati"e)
of any kind, for a minimum of 5 minutes. 3eJd re!eat ho$ great I
$as, and ho$ much I liked them, and lo"ed Ha!anese $omen, it
$orked because it is hard for the chick to blo$ him 2me) out, since
I $asnJt doing
anything,,he $as talking about me.. in o"er 51Y of the cases, after
a bit of that, and ho$ $e should be friends, their barriers $ould go
do$n, and $e could start the normal routine, and get the french
kisses and !hone numbers and get them cra4y about us, and mo"e
on. Again, "ery much agame sho$ hostJ attitude as he $as mo"ing
me and the chick along, $hile doing the same thing to his chick.
As $ell, he $ould talk $ith $hoe"er in the bar, and make the
chick $ait a cou!le minutes 2$e
$ere already holding their hands, so they had to $ait,ie.. $ere
$ere not su!!licating ..$e made them $ait, and get used to $aiting
for us to finish). We did this in the street, he sa$ a street band, he
sto!!ed and started talking tot he musician, and =ust made the
$omen $ait 2I am su!rised they didnt lea"e..but they didnt) as they
$ere a bit ahead of us on the street by then).
*hings he didnJt do, didnJt ask their names 2until =ust before the
!hone close, but after the kiss), didnt talk about hobbies, or any of
that other shit..=ust, I am great, their cute, $e are $onderful, you
should kiss, here take his hand, he is my best friend..etc..etc.. "ery
surface le"el.. 3e $as ne"er serious, and ne"er got into Auestions
about =obs or $hate"er either, =ust he stuck to the !oint, $ere all
here, lets ha"e fun and and see $hat $e can do. When a girl ga"e
resistance, he ne"er argued, but grab her hand, seducet it on mine,
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and say ho$ $e are ha"ing fun, ask her if she likes me 2shed say I
am okay), then go on to ho$ I like her..blah blah. Aggressi"e
someho$, but not really since he is not seduceshing 3I9SEL: on
her, he is seduceshing me, and then taking his o$n chick along. 3e
!aid "ery little attention to his chick "erbally, but $ould du!licate
the !hysical stuff $ith the hands, et.al. that he $as getting me to do
$ith my chick. 3e $ould seducet his arms around all the $omen in
the grou! $ith me, $hile $e danced $ith them,again, game sho$
host attitude all the $ay, high fi"es often $hen one of us $ould get
a small a$inJ $ith a chick..etc..etc. 3eJd say to come met us again
ne+t $eek 2e"en though $e got their numbers), and $eJll be out
here..blah blah..
When girls $er$e on the street going some!lace, or one chick in
the grou! $anted to drag the others a$ay, heJd ask $here they
$ere going, 2theyJd say, home .. another club, drinking..etc), heJd
say thatJs good lets go, and force us u!on them. :or about a cou!le
minutes they $ere uncomfortable, but as he talked about ho$ great
I $as, and ha!!y $e could s!end time $ith them, and it $as so
much fun, their attitude $ould change..again, like $hen $eJd first
meet them kind of !roblem..heJd resol"e it the same $ay..theyd
start smiling, and $eJd end u! ha"ing lots of fun,the kissing..!hon
nums..touching..all o"er again. We had about a B5Y hit rate 2ie.
We could french kiss and get numbers of about B5Y of the $omen
$e hit on), using this method..
So $hat do you think guys( 3is a!!roach $orked because you can
be "ery o"ert $hen you are Dhel!ing out your friendD 2and of
course the friend is reci!rocating). We $ere $ith $omen all the
time and both of us got much farther than $e $ould ha"e under
any traditional a!!roach. We decided to go to a chick sho!!ing
district and =ust try it on the street, *hat $ill be another re!ort,
0ne more thing,I ha"e seen this a!!roach in one other !lace, and
I think this is $here he learned it.. In Ha!an, there is a kind of erotic
"ideo, $here t$o or three guys $ill =ust go on a street by a train
station, and hit on girls e+actly like he did 2same !hrases,
actions..$ords), and try and get them to slee! $ith him to make the
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"ideo. It is all real and unstaged.. Ironically, Auite a fe$ girls $ill
actually go for it. 3e $as doing e+aclty this, like the a!!raoch the
guys used in the "ideos to con"ince the girls 2they are !retty, my
buddy thinks you are se+y,blah blah..kiss game..blah). *hey are
called astreet /an!aJ "ideos 2nan!a K skirt chasing, or sarging),
and are all
o"er =a!an. *hey are "ery good instruction because they sho$ all
the !icku!s attem!ts successes and failures, of the $omen till they
get the one that they slee! $ith.. !robably some!lace on the net has
got them too,..they are all o"er Ha!an any$ays, So $hat do you
guys think( *his is so radical, that I am o!en to any o!inions on
this, and ho$>$hy it $orked>$hat could be changed to make it
better,
Maniac High
*he attitude $e both had 2me, and the SE67%ER, S9ooth) $as
more to ha"e fun $ith each other, seeing $hat $e could get each of
our $omen to do, 2right in front of them), so laughing and kidding,
almost !aying more attention to each other, than the $omen
directly, but kind of at the same time, taking the $omen along for
the ride of the DfunD $e $ere ha"ing. It $as much less stressful
that $ay, and they ke!t their barriers do$n as $e $ere doing all
this to them.
In a $ay, they $ere not the direction of our fun 2o"ertly), but =ust
$ere a !art of it.
Another thing he did in the intro, is $e faked like I didn't kno$
ho$ to !ick u! $omen. So, he $ould introduce me, and then I
$ould say the regular 'hi'..blah blah. *hen he's say 2out loud to be
in front of the chick), Dno, this is Ha!an, its differnet here.. here you
take the ladies hand and kiss it like this 2and he kissed his girl's
hand). And then I did the same thing $ith mine.. *hat $as our "ery
first mo"e, and then $e $ent on from there like in my other note...
2no$, actually, though men ne"er do this in Ha!an to the ladies, he
$as =ust using it as a !ick u! !loy..but it did $ork...).
So there you go..
9aniac 3igh
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Subject: "Choice" SMOOTH
/e$sgrou!s: alt.seduction.fast
3i all,
3e says that one !lace I fuck u! alot, is that I gi"e $omen a
DchoiceD each ste! of the $ay, and use it to select out $omen.
Smooth says that this is bad, because chick's by default, do /0*
decide to do anything, $hich means that they $ill /0* decide
acti"ely to !rogress things in a SE67%E. Women are like rocks,
they by nature, stay in the same !lace>sit., and
are not in for$ard motion. So that means that the goal is to make
the default action 2ie. $hat ha!!ens if the chick does
nothing>doesn't decide) result in the chick getting closer to you..
rather than the default action resulting in no ad"ancing of the
SE67%E taking !lace.
Some e+am!les to clarify this:
')When asking a chick to dance, I $ould offer my hand to her, and
she $ould>$ould not take it. *his gi"e a chance for the chick to
back out by doing nothing...ie. by deciding to do nothing 2ie. not
dance $ith me) or, to re$ord it, by not acti"ely deciding to take
my hand and dance 2or $hate"er) $ith me the SE67%E fails...
bad..
9aniac loses..
&etter, is Smooth's $ay is to seducet his hand on the side of her
$aist, and guide her gently to the dance floor $ith a smile.
/o$, she has no choice but to go as Smooth's hand !hysically but
gently mo"es her body to $here Smooth $ants her to be 2..and she
$ill go unless she acti"ely 6E%I6ES to seducet u! a fuss..$hich
usually she $on't because that means making a 6E%ISI0/).
,)Smooth ne"er lea"es a message on a chick's !hone until after he
has :7%EE6 her 2rather than after the first date, as in RH's notes).
&ecause lea"ing a message then gi"es her a choice to ignore the
message and not call back. *his game !laying goes on until after
the chick has *0*ALL gi"en u!, $hich is only after the first
fuck.
So rather, he $ill kee! trying until he gets her in !erson, and not
lea"e any messages, that $ay, his !itch is far more effecti"e.
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-)Smooth $ill ne"er test a chick to DAualify herD. 3e $ill =ust
make his mo"es until she !hysically gets a$ay from him, or until
he tongues her do$n 2and e"entually fucks her). 3e says he doesn't
need to DAualify herD or Dtest herD or gi"ing her any small choices
2ie. seeing if she $ill take his hand to dance, or $hate"er), because
its irrela"ent to the goal, $hich is to fuck her.
Rather he $ill continue $orking on any chick until he can tongue
her do$n, and then take her home. *he results of any DtestsD, or
DchoicesD, or $hat the girl might be thinking..is irrela"ent.. either
she lets him tongue her do$n, or she !hysically gets out of there..
those are her choices.. and since many $omen can't decide as
Auickly as Smooth makes mo"es, he often gets his $ay.
9ore about 9r. Smooth is on my !age..
/o, ne"er.. Smooth ne"er !lays headgames $ith $omen..
3e is e+tremely straightfor$ard...meet chick, get ra!!ort, start
Eino ASA8, tongue her do$n..take her home.. *hat is the entire
game!lan.
3e =ust goes from chick to chick in the bar>street until he gets all
the $ay to the end $ith one 2!robably through like ,1 or ,5
$omen or something before he gets one..but he mo"es fast
bet$een $omen, like 5..'1 minutes $ith each, $ith only like ,1
seconds do$ntime bet$een each). As he makes his mo"es, the
chick either allo$s it, or gets a$ay from him, then he gets the ne+t
one.
9aniac
Does Mr Smooth ever play hard to get or offer challenges to
women?
Nathan writes about the "Grand Master", a super pick up
artist from France
Subject: Thoughts on Grand Master
3e makes it clear right a$ay that he $ants se+.
3e e+!lained it to me. 3e does not really understand $hat is going
on, me thinks.
3e does not com!liment.
I e+!lained him the conce!t of neg hitI he disagreed ...
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E* 3E 60ES I* ALL *3E *I9E. Well, it's not /E@s, it's more
like '"annes' as I e+!lained once, that's to say, taking the !iss on
her. So he fuct that german yesterday, and before that, made a fe$
2light) =okes about germans, then 'a!ologi4ed' by hugging>kissing
her.
3e takes e"ery o!!ortunity to go kino. I'"e already mentioned that.
3e claims that he does not act the same $ith e"ery $oman.
I asked him about some !lace that's !acked $ith modelFty!es fullF
bitchFshielded ty!es, ho$ do you handle that I asked, and he said,
Dou don't get it, you don't do the same thing there, I'll e+!lain you
later D
3e asks boring Auestion, name, =ob, then =oke on it, and $hen I say
H0EE, I mean :7%EI/@ LA9E =okes.
*o a german: Dyou s!eak german really $ellGD
*o a =a!anese: Dyou s!eak =a!anese really $ellGD
*o an italian: Dyou s!eak italian really $ellGD
0riginal, heh( And on to! of that he said it se"eral times to the
same girl. Dou really s!eak german $ellG L0L D.
:uck.
So I met the @rand 9aster tonight. :or the first time $e had a real
conversation ... and went SE67%E as $ingmen. Shit, I did'nt hear
his openins. !e "irst enaes those two 7@s. As !er already
re!orted, he does !lenty of dirty =okes. 3e does'nt gi"e a fuck.
DI'm $orried cause I'm going to the 3os!ital tomorro$. 2Really(
Why() I'm gonna ha"e surgery 2Err ... $hat's $rong() Well ...
mine's too long WgestureX and I ha"e to ha"e it cut do$n
L0*:LGGGD
Wseducetting his arms around both of themX DSo $hat's it like to be
$ith such a #eauti"u$ #$oke tonite% &'&()
Stu"" $ike that "or $ike, 2* minutes.
+he 7@s go along !retty $ell at first, then get attitude and diss us.
We claim it's my birthday, so let's ha"e cham!agne at my !lace 2I
li"e round the corner). 0ne of them seems ok $ith it. *he other
definitely $on't. 3e kee!s insisting, &7* $ithout su!!lication.
DWhat( ou ha"e the o!!ortunity to be $ith t$o incredibly good
looking guys and that's $hat you do% I can't #e$ieve it( &'&)
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,$enty, I mean, p$enty o" shame$ess kino action 2butt, legs, hair,
arms).
We don't get no$here, so he $ants to teach them a lesson: he
a!!roaches another 2-set. S$iht$y #etter $ookin, we$$ .uite
"ucka#$e actua$$y.
'ne o" them, Spanish, seems rather re$uctant to his sexua$
innuendo, I wou$d have stopped riht away persona$$y, /0+ he
persists. Some o" the same stu"". +hey don't want to come with us,
they have an appointment. !e Smoothes1 )So where's your
appointment% -- at 2 -- 'k, $et's o() And we o. ,assin #y the
7@s, he shows them that we score. +hey're pissed o""(
@o to the meeting !oint. *alk $ith stu!id =a!anese tourists, I
s!eak a little =a!anese $ith them, $e make fun of them, take !ics, I
try to kiss the erman chick. She's re$uctant.
+hey have to o ca$$ their "riends. At that point, we think that they
won't come #ack. 3e$$ too #ad. 4rr no( +hey come #ack. So what
are your "riends doin% +hey're not comin( 'k, $et's have some
champane.
Apparent$y, they did'nt understand that it was at my p$ace. 3hen
we're a#out to enter the #ui$din, they're 54A&&6 re$uctant. !ey,
$et's just have some champane at my p$ace and we'$$ o out
somewhere a"terwards 7#i $ie, everythin's onna c$ose soon8. !e
insists, sti$$ a#so$ute$y non supp$icatin$y. +hey "ina$$y aree, /0+
on$y "or a short time -- yeah riht.
At my p$ace, champane, "$u"" ta$k. At my p$ace, I $aunch the
comseduceter and the pic viewin proram. 3e see pics o" #oth o"
us with p$enty o" ir$s. +hen he ta$ks shame$ess$y 7to me, not to
them, as i" he's 9'+ tryin to impress them8 a#out a$$ the ir$s he
meets. !ow #armen in #ars around here are 54A&&6 jea$ous. !e
oes on an eo trip "or 2* mins. !e used not to $ike me 7as I
reported8 #ut "inds that we have a connection 7no, rea$$y%8.
DLet's talk about something else, that con"os' boring, he says, ...
se+ "or examp$e)
I do some minor patternin and app$ied /L8. For instance, I say
to the Ita$ian chick )3hen he says :I;< you shou$d not think
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a#out S42. I don't want you to make a picture in your mind o" a
,49IS) !e $auhs.
A$$ the time, this has #een rea$$y $iht, no sta$$in, he does not
rea$$y try to et their attention, he restarts conversation with some
$iht joke, we$$ !4A=6 joke a#out sex. +he 7@s $ere laughing all
the time, these ones were just smi$in #ut sti$$ ...
!e oes into heavy kino with the erman. !e te$$s me, .uick$y,
)"aut .u't'ai $es mains #a$$adeuses) -- I'3, et kino, stoo!idG In
front of them. /ot loud, not meant for them to be heard, but they
could still.
So I start kino. I don't know how, he ets the erman to "o$$ow him
in the kitchen. +hey "$u"" ta$k. I kino on the ita$ian and she does'nt
comp$ain. I o in some patternin, ta$k a#out music and on stae
stu"", how you can #e "ascinatin #y someone #$ah #$ah. <iss her.
'k. !e then ets the erman in my #edroom. I seducet the ita$ian
on the couch. !eavy pettin. Finerin. She's "uckin 34+.
!eavy pettin "or .uite a $on time, #ut she does'nt want to o
"u$$ way. )6ou must think I'm stupid) she says. She's never s$ept
with a uy so .uick$y. I nod. A"ter >? mins, I take her to my room,
authoritative$y. ;ondom. 5emove panties. Fuck.
&efore I'"e been able to cum, @rand 9aster comes in the room,
shamelessly, DAh but you're naked L0LD he says to me. 3e kisses
my chick good bye. She's fucking embarassed. DI ha"e to see 9.
@ood byeD he tells me. 9. is another chick. &ig grin on his face.
/o more fuck $ith the italian. She's sitting on the bed, looking in
the "oid. 6amn, that $as em#arassin.
She has to see what the erman is up to. She's $e"t. Ita$ian chick
$eaves. )3e$$ ... see you soon.) she says. And oes.
So I sa$ him tonite. 3e told me ho$ thinks e+actly ha!!ened:
actually, $hen he took the german chick a$ay, he told her that WE
2the s!anish girl and I) $anted to be alone. DWhat do you mean(D
she asked Dare you blind or something( you can't see $hat they're
up to% or you want to watch them% do you know how em#arassin
it is when peop$e want to #e a$one and there's someone watchin%)
And that was it. So he took her away. +here we 7the spanish and I8
thouht they were "uckin -- #ut they were'nt ... yet. And o" course,
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the thouht that they were "uckin made '05 "uckin happen
7social !roof(8 And then he took her away #ack to !IS p$ace,
where, social !roof app$ied #ack A9: she "ucked him(
7+he "unny part #ein, she was o" the ana$ type, and pre"erred to
#e sodomi@ed ... she even asked him to #e vio$ent with him((((8
Shit. +hat uy is a-ma-@in. +hat's the most #ri$$iant use o" social
!roof I'"e seen so far.
Also, his o!ening $as: DI dig youD. 3m . 3e des!ises guys $ho do
&Sing. And then he told them that he $as unfaithful and that they
could ha"e him for one night, maybe t$o, but ne"er more. 6on't
e"en think about itG
*hat guy is :7%EI/@ S*RAI@3*:0RWAR6.
*he !rinci!le !robably $orks, but there has to be a co"ert $ay to
say or e+!ress this. I can't seem to "ind one riht now thouh.
!e's 94=45 covert.
/ut he can et away with A96+!I9A ... #ecause he's )just
kiddin).
);an I sit there% Is it ok, ain't I too sexy% 6ou won't et too horny
i" I sit in "ront o" you%)
*his $as an o!ening line.
3e does a$esome lots of negationsG It's too funnyG
3e does funny time distortions: I a!!roach that girl $ho ha!!ened
to ha"e a =ob as a doorFtoFdoor sales!erson. So he e+!lains ho$
$hen she $ould ring the door, he $ould o!en in a sexy $inerie,
and wou$d then make $ove to her.
I saw him work the maic, aain, we cou$d'nt "uck c$ose, #ut we B
c$osed, and he ot one additiona$ num#er.
Severa$ times in "ront o" them he mentioned his ir$"riend, #ut in a
"unny way.
!e mentioned the date he was oin to have sunday with the ir$
he had B c$osed ear$ier.
Coke1 )I $ike you #ecause you are rea$$y inte$$ient) 7esture
around his #reasts whi$e sayin 'inte$$ient'8.
!4 starts comp$imentin, then end takin the piss o" them.
,enis jokes.
,1?
,enis jokes ...
Mine's $oner than yours ...
'n 3ed, *> Sep >DDD >?1E21*E AM+, $hoisthis'COmyFde=a.com
wrote1
I've asked woman thisF
Why did you fuck that guy?
Most of em say because he was funny and could make me
laugh. I'm "ery im!ressed $ith these cri# notes 9athan. +hese
rea$$y are $ines o" humor I cou$d use and serious$y I'd use some o"
his jokes. I'm sti$$ waitin to use theF
):e##y% I havent done a :e##y in awhi$e.)
Guiestions !avent you seen woman turn him o""% I mean he's in
many woman's opinion a s$ea@e #a$$ and a ood way to et S+:s.
:onHt
!e a$ways mentions the "act that he uses condoms. Actua$$y in one
instance he indirect$y asked her one.
woman just inore him or et up and $eave% !e's ot to et .uite
a "ew woman rea$$y annoyed with him #e"ore he hits on a coup$e
that are ame.
Actua$$y, that has'nt happened yet. And I'm as surprised #y it as
you must #e -- esp. iven the "act that the p$aces where he operates
women are hit on a#out >2 times a minute.
:oes he% Is he a "renchman% Are his targets tourists%
9o. 6es. 9ot on$y1 the ir$s we saw yesterday were French
students. 9ot parisians, thouh.
3e ot sit next to two 7@s. *alk for a fe$ minutes. *ake the beer
bottle on their table, read the label, seducet it back and say DI can't
stand shy $omenD. DWe're not shyGD one says.
)3hat% 3e've #een here "or >* minutes and you have'nt ta$ked to
us yet()
*hought of this one: a cutie smiles to me furti"ely 2she $as $ith
mom8 whi$e I was wa$kin in the street. /are$y >7, #ut oh so cute.
!ypothetica$ openin1 turn #ack, )!ey( 3hat does that mean% 6ou
smi$ed to me and you did'nt even ta$k to me()
Ah, sounds $ike @9's jokes. Aood(
Mike a Icrit1
,1C
+his is one thin, amon many, that I used to pick up a 3& on
thursday.
We $ere both s!ending the day in a meeting, rela+ed atmos!here.
We had ne"er seen each other before and $ould likely not see
each other again.
At "irst I didn't et much reaction "rom her, so I just kept coo$ and
casua$$y need her whenever the opportunity came up.
+hen I stared a $itt$e kino, with the nein.
*hen, I told her this =oke. *his =oke $as originally told to me last
year by a famous actor, $hom I !robably shouldn't name. I didn't
reali4e the potentcy o" this joke unti$ yesterday. !ere oes1
Guest1--3hat did ;indere$$a do when she ot to the #a$$%
Answ1--7make a ain sound -try it8.
Why is this great( :irst of all, because it is :7//, I'"e al$ays
had a good res!onse by it, and second of all, because for them to
undertand it, they ha"e to think about it, and 60 *3E S07/6
2it's because %inderella is gagging on the guy's cock, for those
$ho ha"en't figured it out by no$). Also, it's !erfectly normal to
tell =okes $hen you're basically there $aiting for something to
ha!!en. *he negging that I did =ust seducet me in a rece!ti"e light
$ith her. *his seemingly SharmlessS
=oke =ust o!ens the door for more =okes. :ollo$ it u! $ith se+ual
=okes if you can, like this one:
Luest:FFWhat's blue and creamy(
Ans$:FFSmurf cum.
Regardless of $hether they think these =okes are gross or not, they
still laugh, and the humor and the se+ual feelings are linked to you.
9ow you otta keep oin to capita$i@e on this.
3hat I did was the incredi#$e connection pattern, the attraction
pattern, then some neation, and .uotes com#ined with neation. I
had her #y the incredi#$e connection pattern, so ettin sexua$
with the neation and .uotes was no pro#$em. +hen I i$$icited her
va$ues, and then asked her i" she had ever had an orasm. +hen I
had her re-experience the orasm throuh ski$$"u$ description and
$inked it to me. I te$$ you, I may have otten some action that
niht, #ut I didn't want to wait around "or an extra hour and $ook
,'1
$ike and A:%, $aiting for her to "inish. I ot her num#er o"
course.
'pinions% 9athan% 96;% :ans% 'dius%
Mike.
Are you ready to et $aid twice a day%
'kay here are your exercise "or the week1 approach J women a
week, pre"erra#$y pairs thereo", and seducet the "o$$owin in the
conversation -- on$y, in a humorous way( And every time she $ooks
vexed #y the insu$t, hu her and kiss her and te$$ her )you're just
kiddin).
FF I'm organi4ing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come(
FF I like you because you're intelligent .
I like myself because I'm intelligent, too .
FF If you're nice enough I $ill lick you.
FF 3o$ does it feel like to be $ith 2onet$o) handsome blokes(
FF 9y friend's =ealous bc mine is bigger
FF Look, $e ha"e to go 2to her !lace) no$ because I ha"e a date in
, hours. /o $e can't go to my !lace because I ha"e a friend
slee!ing there.
-- !ide your p$easure(
-- I $ove myse$" sooo much I can't $eave myse$" a$one.
-- I wish I cou$d sp$it myse$" in ? @9 so that I cou$d p$ease a$$
the women.
So try that kind o" stu"" and report. 'h yeah, and never "oret that
your aim is to dra her to a private corner to seducet your wi$$ie
inside. 9othin e$se.
'k some more $ines1
-- i" you #uy me a drink, you miht et $ucky tonite
-- I can't p$ease every ir$ #ut I'$$ ive you a chance tonite
-- women are $inin up to #e with me
-- it's touh to #e such a sex sym#o$
-- are'nt you oin to et too horny i" I sit next to you%
0EA 0/E I980R*A/* *3I/@: you'd think that he gets
blo$n off e"ery time he says something that stu!id, right( ES 3E
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!e wou$d IF he did'nt say )C0S+ <I::I9A ) K#e"oreK she has a
chance to rep$y.
,sycho$oica$$y speakin, since she does not have the time to
rep$y neative$y, she's somewhat areein. It's rather o#vious
when you see it happenin.
I" she starts rep$yin neative$y, he cuts her down #y sayin,
"yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have
fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid".
0n B Se! 'CCC 1?:.':5< @9*, /athan SÌLAR6 $rote:
Are you ready to get laid t$ice a day(
0kay here are your e+ercise for the $eek: a!!roach . $omen a
$eek, !referrably !airs thereof, and seducet the follo$ing in the
con"ersation FF only, in a humorous $ayG And e"ery time she
looks "e+ed by the insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her Dyou're
=ust kiddingD.
,
hours. /o $e can't go to my !lace because I ha"e a friend
slee!ing there.
-- !ide your p$easure(
-- I $ove myse$" sooo much I can't $eave myse$" a$one.
-- I wish I cou$d sp$it myse$" in ? @9 so that I could !lease all the
$omen.
So try that kind of stuff and re!ort. 0h yeah, and ne"er forget that
your aim is to drag her to a !ri"ate corner to seducet your wi$$ie
inside. 9othin e$se.
:on't ask me persona$ seduction .uestions, p$ease post to the
roup.
AS:'s practica$ FAG and new#ie startin point1
htt!:>>metabork.fr.eu.org>bnathan>
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roup.
'n +ue, *7 Sep >DDD >21>L1E? AM+, Lord@aedenOhotmail.com
$rote:
3e hugs them after his first line already( 3o$ can he get a$ay
$ith intruding their !ersonal s!ace so early on( I $ould guess that
doing that $ould reseduce$se the ir$s even more.
+here is some proression, o" course. /ut remem#er that he hus
just a"ter a /IA neg. 3ence the in"asion is masked by the
embarrassment cause by the insult.
8sychologically s!eaking, since she does not ha"e the time to
re!ly negati"ely, she's some$hat agreeing. It's rather ob"ious
$hen you see it ha!!ening.
If she starts re!lying negati"ely, he cuts her do$n by saying,Dyeah
I like to say stu!id things, life's too short not to ha"e funD or DI
like to act like a little kid FF I'm a kidD.
And then $hat does he do( 3e =ust kee!s making se+F=okes, or he
$alks away%
9o he carries on.
:oes @9 constantly talks to the girl2s) he $ants, or does he chat,
$alk o"", come #ack $ater to "o$$ow up%
!e's rea$$y persistent.
:oes @9 get '1s(
*here's a !icture of a '? yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's I90
close to '1. 2*he blonde one sitting at a cafc)
'k some more $ines1
-- i" you #uy me a drink, you miht et $ucky tonite
-- I can't p$ease every ir$ #ut I'$$ ive you a chance tonite
-- women are $inin up to #e with me
-- it's touh to #e such a sex sym#o$
-- are'nt you oin to et too horny i" I sit next to you%
W07L6GG
3e $ould I: he did'nt say DH7S* EI66I/@ D SbeforeS she has a
chance to rep$y.
,'-
,sycho$oica$$y speakin, since she does not have the time to rep$y
neative$y, she's somewhat areein. It's rather o#vious when you
see it happenin.
If she starts re!lying negati"ely, he cuts her do$n by saying,
Dyeah I like to say stu!id things, life's too short not to ha"e "un) or
)I $ike to act $ike a $itt$e kid -- I'm a kid).
wrote1
!e hus them a"ter his "irst $ine a$ready% !ow can he et away
with intrudin their persona$ space so ear$y on% I wou$d uess
that doin that wou$d reseduce$se the ir$s even more.
embarrassment cause by the insult.
8sychologically s!eaking, since she does not ha"e the time to
re!ly negati"ely, she's some$hat agreeing. It's rather ob"ious $hen
you see it ha!!ening.
If she starts re!lying negati"ely, he cuts her do$n by saying, Dyeah
I like to say stu!id things, life's too short not to ha"e funD or DI
like to act like a little kid FF I'm a kidD.
And then $hat does he do( 3e =ust kee!s making se+F=okes, or he
$alks away%
9o he carries on.
:oes @9 constant$y ta$ks to the ir$7s8 he wants, or does he chat,
wa$k o"", come #ack $ater to "o$$ow up%
:oes @9 get '1s(
*here's a !icture of a '? yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's I90
close to '1. 2*he blonde one sitting at a cafc)
0n Wed, 1? Se! 'CCC ,-:-<:5B @9*, mr.morg $rote:
0E these are both "ery !o$erful, S0 %0;ER 7R /7*S 0R
*3E 9A &E %R7S3E6G
D heybabe, I $as ho!ing you could hel! me out for a sec ( ou see
a snake just #it my nads and i need you to suck the poison out)
From @9: DAre you hands clean( FF eah FF 0k, could you hold
my SSS for Status1 '
,'.
me whi$e I'm peein%)
Sit at the reu$ar ca"e. !e enaes a sin$e ir$. I see him, o do
some stu"". She was waitin "or someone. 3e enae another one.
5ea$$y cute, "innish. /ut she was waitin "or her #ad #oy. @9 is
smooth1 a uy had just #een rejected >*s #e"ore. !e comp$ains
a#out that shit 7A:%s hitting on girls) that fuck his a!!roach.
A!!roach another t$o set. We're getting no$here. 3e asks them
for a !iece of !a!er. 0n it he $rite:
?:-1 F 1
?:.5 F 1
C:11 F 1
C:'5 F (
L0L
E"ery time $e do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to get
$hate"er you $ant, as you $ill see.
3e approach another two1 they're rea$$y cute. /ut one o" them is
#itchy and "ucks it up -- the cutest one cou$d #e a$most "or it. As
they don't o with the proram he ets even more direct -- exp$ains
his phi$osophy1 take no prisoners, err phone num#ers, I have that
many women, etc ... +he cuter one is "ascinated. 3e o""er one $ast
time to o to my p$ace to ce$e#rate my #irthday with champane,
they don't say no #ut the #itchy one #itches -- s$iht$y. !e ejects --
in a 'you can't "ire me cause I .uit' way, he's rea$$y proud o" it.
+o reta$iate we enae two merkins in "ront o" them. !e's not too
direct with them. A"ter J? min we o to my p$ace to dirnk
champane. 'ne o" them is somewhat cute, "u$$y pierce, I wou$d
have thouht she was a $es#ian. +he other one is shy and a #it too
"at "or my taste. !e $eaves me the "at one c$aimin it's onna #e
easier. 9ot( !e takes Ms,iercin #ack to the #edroom. I pattern
the "at one and et a hand jo# on her nice titties, #ut no more. +he
#itch is wet #ut it's not in her standard. +hat was $on to et
thouh. She $eaves, "ee$in uncom"orta#$e. In the mean time @9
has fucked 28I; and ass8 Ms,iercin. 3e o #ack to the $ivin
room, and have a nice
chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natura$ it is. @9 is !issed off
bc he $anted to s$a!. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday
,'5
!resent. /o. So he gets her to sho$ me her titties, 2!ierced), then
later undresses her, feels her u!, I do the
same, she sucks my dick $hile he fucks her. She confessed to me
that she liked me more 2() FF that's ha!!ened before , days ao, it's
pro#a#$y the ood cop M #ad cop thinie.
Anyway, she's rea$$y com"orta#$e with it. !e c$aims to have un
stucked her. ;ou$d #e #e$ieved. !ave to know how he does that.
Fu$$ porn action. ;oo$. +he ir$ is a rea$$y ood "uck.
/ice body. /ice !ierced titties. Slim.
3e's lea"ing $ith her to get her to bring a friend tomorro$.
!e wants that "oursome thin. I "ind the idea o" a ir$ #rinin in
that 'trap' rather interestin. @9 ets her to aree that the "at one
missed a ood "uck -- two ood "ucks actua$$y, he says. She arees.
Approach he had used1 I o te$$ a ir$ that my "riend is pissed o""
that she did'nt say he$$o to him, despite the "act they've met #e"ore.
'h yeah another interestin one1 whi$e we were "$u""in the two
women at my p$ace, one o" them mentions the "act that we have the
mornin pi$$ in France, #ut not yet in the 0S. @91 )6ou won't
need it tonite, we a$ways use condoms.
&'& Cust kiddin).
As he ets into 'rapport' with the ir$s, I've noticed, he ets more
and more direct, sometimes comp$ete$y omittin the 'just kiddin'
part.
+a$k a#out #ein straiht"orward.
'n +hu, *D Sep >DDD >E1J?1*7 AM+, $hoisthis'COmyFde=a.com
wrote1
In artic$e N-B6B'5&1.--::A:<'Ometabork.fr.eu.org,
9athan SOI&A5: wrote1
5ea$$y cute, "innish. /ut she was waitin "or her #ad #oy. @9 is
smooth: a guy had =ust been re=ected '1s before.
ou mean re=ection doesnt !hase him a bit and he =ust kee!s on
!lugging a$ay(
I don't get it( A guy a!!roached her lamely. 3e does his stu""
anyway.
,'<
!e comp$ains a#out that shit 7A:%s hitting on girls) that "uck his
approach.
;omp$ains to you or to the targets%
+o me. !e a$ways comp$ains a#out A:%s fucking u! his a!!roach.
;ultures. 3e also claims that he has to re!rogram $omen for the
others: $ith all that assFlicking they feel too im!ortant.
3o!efully he's here to change that for the ne+t guys to come on
them :)
A!!roach another t$o set. We're getting
no$here. 3e asks them for a !iece of !a!er. 0n it he $rite:
?:-1 F 1
?:.5 F 1
C:11 F 1
C:'5 F (
L0L
E"ery time $e do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works fine to
get $hate"er you $ant, as you $ill see.
@od damn $hat an easy and effecti"e gimmicG
eah, and e"en if it's an o"erused one, $e don't gi"e a damn shit.
We a!!roach another t$o: they're really cute. &ut one of them is
bitchy and fucks it u! FF the cutest one could be almost for it. As
they don't go $ith the !rogram he gets e"en more direct FF
e+!lains his !hiloso!hy: take no !risoners, err !hone numbers, I
ha"e that many $omen, etc ... *he cuter one is "ascinated. 3e
o""er one $ast time to o to my p$ace to ce$e#rate my #irthday with
champane, they don't say no #ut the #itchy one #itches --
s$iht$y. !e ejects -- in a 'you can't "ire me cause I .uit' way, he's
rea$$y proud o" it.
+o reta$iate we enae two merkins in "ront o" them.
:id the Merkins see you ta$kin to the #itchy one and her "riend
and S44 you eject%
Actua$$y, yeah. @9 claimed they $ere friend of ours.
3e's not too direct $ith them. After .5 min $e go to my !lace to
drink champane.
,'B
3e're they into the #irthday excuse or were they oin there to et
$aid. 3hen does @9 make the )come to my p$ace) move% !ow
"ar is your p$ace "rom the ca"es%
)9., does that champane o""er sti$$ stand%)
)Sure, @9, I promised you we'd have some o" that rea$$y ood
one(
!ey ir$s, wanna drink some rea$$y ood champane%)
)3here%)
)At my p$ace)
)!e $ives just round the corner)
And then he insists a $itt$e #it. &ike, not #u$$y sty$e, #ut he keeps
askin the .uestion, every > or 2 mins.
9y !lace is really close from the cafc FF that's actually the reason
why he does that with me( 6es, he uses me. I don't ive a damn
shit1
I'm usin him too.
I pattern the "at one and et a hand jo# on her nice titties, #ut
no more. +he #itch is wet #ut it's not in her standard. +hat was
$on to et thouh. She $eaves, "ee$in uncom"orta#$e. In the mean
time @9 has fucked 28I; and ass8
,I=%
,enis In =aina
Ms,iercin. 3e o #ack to the $ivin room, and have a nice chit
chat, and I'm surprised at how natura$ it is. @9 is !issed off bc he
$anted to s$a!. So he asks to suck my dick as my birthday
!resent. /o.
Is 3E &I( or $as this =ust a =oke( or did you lea"e out the $ord
DherD
/o he's not bi, he asked 3ER of course.
So he gets her to sho$ me her titties, 2!ierced), then later
undresses her, feels her u!, I do the same, she sucks my dick $hile
he fucks her. She confessed to me that she liked me more 2() FF
that's ha!!ened before , days ago, it's !robably the good co! > bad
co! thingie.
,'?
6amn this is erotic. alt.se+.stories.true lol Any$ay, she's really
comfortable $ith it. 3e claims to ha"e un stucked her. ;ou$d #e
#e$ieved. !ave to know how he does
that.
9o kiddin( !e's ot to have a ood techni.ue in #ed.
9ice #ody. 9ice pierced titties. S$im.
!e's $eavin with her to et her to #rin a "riend tomorrow.
missed a ood "uck -- two ood "ucks actua$$y, he says. She
arees.
I see @9 takin the $ead in most o" this #ut I'm sure your doin
thins too. I'$$ #et @9 is more e""ective with you as a $ingman
than he $as a$one. 3hat kind o" thins do you do%
I don't do much( Actua$$y I think that most o" the time I'd rather
shut up than #reak stu"". Sometimes he te$$s me what to say, or ets
nervous #c I'm too .uiet. !e's rea$$y sarcastic whenever I say
somethin too common or not "unny or neative -- which I hard$y
ever do anyway.
In ca"es do you approach woman who are havin dinner or just
ki$$in time havin co""ee% Are woman used to #ein approached
in these p$aces.
Any woman.
!ere it wou$d #e unusua$, unaccepta#$e and @9 wou$d et
thrown out o" any ca"e here.
&ook, it's rea$$y simp$e1 he knows the #artenders #y their name,
they know what he's up to. Actua$$y most o" them are jea$ous and
act $ike vu$tures, and "uck up his approach "rom time to time. /ut
no vio$ence.
And no, me thinks you are #ein too cautious here. I" you are
makin them $auh, no#ody wi$$ think you're #otherin them.
A!!roach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is !issed
off that she did'nt say hello to him, des!ite the "act they've met
#e"ore.
!ow did it work out%
,'C
She ot seduce@@$ed, did'nt #e$ieve me, $ooked at him. I went #ack
to sit down, he went up, chatted her, #ut she was $eavin "or the
theatre or somethin.
women at my p$ace, one o" them mentions the "act that we have
the mornin pi$$ in France, #ut not yet in the 0S. @91 )6ou won't
&'& Cust kiddin).
*his is so useful because I hate dancing around the
condom>"enereal disease issue. 3e finds $ays to =oke about it.
9aybe $hat I =ust said is key. 3e says $hat he $ants to say and
asks for $hat he $ants but al$ays $ith humor. 6o you find him
funny( 6o the $oman laugh at his =okes(
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I/F%REF6I&LE FF
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As he gets into 'ra!!ort' $ith the girls, I'"e noticed, he gets more
and more direct, sometimes com!letely omitting the 'just kiddin'
part.
Aod( 9'''''' S!I+((( 5eme#er when you said he just ta$ked
to a a$ "or a#out 2* seconds and she $e"t with him% :id you ever
et the story #ehind that% :id he just o up and ask her to "uck%
+hat was in a disco wasnt it%
/ot ,1sec, 5 mins. &ut still. /ot a disco, a cafe>bar. 3e did'nt
ASE for a fuck FF he ne"er ASES he offers %3A/%ES. And she
$as laughing.
I don't kno$ $hat he did to her F he did'nt remember e+actly 2ho$
cou$d he%8
+o me. !e a$ways comp$ains a#out A:%s fucking u! his
a!!roach.
!ope"u$$y he's here to chane that "or the next uys to come on
them 18
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!e makes an exce$$ant point a#out 3&s "ee$in too important that
sounds $ike mystery. !e seems to #e a natura$. I wonder i" he
went throuh an A:% phase once%
Indeed. And it's most$y a pro#$em with the most #eauti"u$ ir$s --
#ut not a$$. Mystery knows how to disarm them, #ut S+I&&, it's
"uckin touh. @9 routes aainst that #y surprisin them with his
approachF however they can #e .uick to seducet themse$ves #ack
in that position.
And here I have an interestin thouht1 I have the impression that
sometimes they catch themse$ves in this ha#itF you have somethin
to o""er 7that's #asica$$y what @9 says all the time), and you sense
that they almost fall for it, &7* they're so used to bitching and
feeling im!ortant and '$inning' FF $hate"er it means R that they do
the same o$d proram aain.
Interestin @9 thing: one $oman claimed that $e $ere on our
battle field. 3e denied the term 'battle' FF no one loses. We all $in.
8leasure.
6id the 9erkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend
and S44 you eject%
Actua$$y, yeah. @9 claimed they $ere friend of ours.
3ell of a good line. Eno$ something /athan(
2*rue confession time)
A cou!le hours ago I $as thinking of using @9s lines but then
thoughtI DIt $ont be natural, It's not my style, it $ill come off
ak$ard and $ont $ork... I ha"e my o$n style and should =ust
modifie it...D Eno$ $hat my ne+t thought $as( DListen @reg,
ou !lay guitar in differant styles, ho$ did you learn those styles(
It's not something your born $ith R you learn it F !ractice it and it
becomes so natural that $hen !eo!le hear you p$ay they think it is
a part o" you.) In a nut she$$ - nothin is
written in stone. I can chane my sty$e with practice.
So...
A#out >* minutes ao I ot done tryin a SE67%E on t$o
diferant $omen over
,,'
$unch at a $oca$ #ar. 7#oth were Ps #ut worthy8 I stuck to usin
@9 jokes and his "rame o" re"erance. I've tested it and this stu""
works(
And surprisin$y so. 6ou don't et rejected as you wou$d expect --
when you think a#out it, to reject somethin, you have to know
what it is. 3hen you've heard one particu$ar $ine a thousand times,
you know what it means, what it is, what it aims at ... 3hen @9
a!!roaches she's here, $ondering $hat the fuck is going on ... it's
so outraeous, she can't react in a predetermined way.
It was at the point I was "ee$in a $itt$e ui$ty #ecause one was a
rea$ sweet heart and I just wanted to "a$$ #ack to #ein nice and
$ettin her ta$k a#out her #oy"riend - #ut when I did - Instant$y I
eah, $e all make that mistake. When I tend to fall in this, lately,
I remember that co$orker of a friend, $ho looks soooooo innocent
and seducere, and gets fuct by at least - guys e"ery day, !ossibly at
the same time.
could see it $as a mistake so I'd come off $ithI DI gotta get an
o!eration tommorro$...D and she be back in theI Dour so badD
and hitting me... It $as easy and she made sure to gi"e me her
!hone numberG
I didnt even ask( So now I have a hot ca$$ to make(
AhG
Look, folks, !lease a!!ly itG And re!ortG
*his e+!eriment tells me to memorise e"ery one of these lines.
*hey are killerG Seducere o$d( ,$ease keep sharin. +hese are
power"u$ jokes.
Funny how the one who ave me her phone num#er kept sayin
she $oved
sense o" humor. I thouht the jokes weren't "unny at a$$. I was
just mouthin words and she was $auhin. I cou$dnt #e$ieve it.
+he other one had to o #ut she "e$$ riht into ta$kin a#out sex.
3'3(
Some $ines I havent tried and am thinkin o" what her o#vious
response wou$d #e and what wou$d #e the recovery "or it. For
examp$eF
9E: 6ebby( I ha"ent done a 6ebby in a$hile heheheheh
,,,
3er: Embarressed silence
9E: ((((((
3o$ does he reco"er in those situations(
3e does /0* 3A;E *0. *hey don't go into an embarassed
silence. *hey go '$hat the fuck ...' or sur!rised and laughing, and
any$ay, before they can e+!ress anything he touches them and go
'=ust kidding'.
In "act any more $ines, recoveries, ect... is seducere o$d to me.
*hanks F 9athan.
!e's not too direct with them. A"ter J? min we o to my p$ace to
dirnk champane. 3e're they into the #irthday excuse or were
they oin there to et $aid. 3hen does @9 make the Dcome to
my !laceD mo"e( 3o$ far is your p$ace "rom the ca"es%
)Sure, @9, I !romised you $e'd ha"e some of that really good
oneG
3ey girls, $anna drink some really good cham!agne(D
DWhere(D
DAt my !laceD
D3e li"es =ust round the cornerD
And then he insists a little bit. Like, not bully style, but he
keeps askin the .uestion, every > or 2 mins.
In this respect me and him are a$ot the same. I'm oa$ oriented
and once I've so"tened her up enouh to start in"errin this way I
stick to it. Sti$$ your $ead in was exce$$ant and the way he hand$ed
it a"ter that was ki$$er((
eah it's really im!ortant. &ring them to a !ri"ate !lace ASA8. A
!lace $here you can fuck them. Where they don't ha"e to think
about all those things, $hat to a"oid etc.
And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are
making them $auh, no#ody wi$$ think you're #otherin them.
!ave you #een to a :enny's, ;ountry <itchen, ;racker /arre$%
+hat's what I'm thinkin o". May#e you mean resturants with
#ars% A!!!((((
9ow I see( Am I riht%
,,-
I don't know what you're ta$kin a#out. I'm ta$kin typica$ ,arisian
ca"I.
'h yeah another interestin one1 whi$e we were "$u""in the
two women at my p$ace, one o" them mentions the "act that we
have the mornin pi$$ in France, #ut not yet in the 0S. @91 )6ou
won't need it tonite, we a$ways use condoms.
&'& Cust kiddin).
+his is so use"u$ #ecause I hate dancin around the
condomMveneria$ disease issue. !e "inds ways to joke a#out it.
May#e what I just said is key. !e says what he wants to say and
asks "or what he wants #ut a$ways with humor. :o you "ind him
"unny% :o the woman $auh at his
=okes(
ES *3E 60G *3A*'S W3A* I'9 *ALEI/@ A&07*G I*'S
I/F%REF6I&LE FF
&7* *3E LA7@3GGGG
our right. As I told the =okes I couldnt belie"e they laughed.
e!. When I first listened to his stuff, snoo!ing o"er the girls
shoulder, I could'nt belie"e $hat he $as saying FF I actually
thought at some !oint that he $as talking bullshit in order to lead
me into a dead endGGG L0LGGG
/ot ,1sec, 5 mins. &ut still. /ot a disco, a cafe>bar. 3e did'nt
ASE for a fuck FF he ne"er ASES he offers CHANCES/
opportunities . And she $as laughing.
I don't kno$ $hat he did to her F he did'nt remember e+actly 2ho$
could he()
cafe>barG I see... ok $e got those here. *hey al$ays look so dead
maybe cause I go to these !laces to actually eat food not
seducessy. 1-8
6eah #ut they're per"ect "or his approach.
I rea$$y want to hear more a#out this ArandMaster.
I'm more $ike a 9iceAuy, #ut not in the c$assica$ way. I mean, I
don't have these 9iceAuy pro#$ems.
Sti$$, thouh, I'm "ee$in drawn to this @9-stu"". It seems he is
rea$$y con"ident and won't take any crap "rom women - I $ike that,
'cause there's so much o" it.
,,.
/ut a#out him1 Isn't it some sort o" num#ers ame, when he p$ays%
;an he on$y et one sort o" women%
I know some women, that's very con"ident and mature
themse$ves, and I have a hard time #e$ievin that they want to #e
around someone so arroant and se$"ish as @9. I think they wou$d
ive him the "iner and don't even think a#out him "or 2 sec.
/ut sti$$...I AM "ee$in drawn, I do #e$ieve on some $eve$ that
somethin is riht a#out what the @9 does.
So 9athan1 3i$$ it on$y work on some type o" women% Is it a
num#ers ame% 3i$$ it work on mature, con"ident women%
It's not just a num#er ames. I has to thouh. I can exp$ain why1
$ate$y, we have met rouh$y a#out "ive L-D that we cou$d have
oried with ... pro#$em% +hey were with a #itch. 0sua$$y $ess ood
$ookin.
6esterday niht, there was that >D yo ca$i"ornian, '! M6 AA3:
titties, they were pointin $ike cra@y, you cou$d te$$ she was wet
and horny, she was $auhin $ike there was no tomorrow, A9: she
wanted 7she to$d us8 to o #ack to my p$ace with @9 and I ....
S&7*S 2and I hate big butts, and I cannot lieG ah ah) her 'B yo
sister $as /0*G So they argued in front of us, but the 'B yo bitch
$on.
So the conditions al$ays render the the thing a number gameI
because $e're on the !rogram of fucking 0/ *3E S80*, closing
to :7%E in ' hour ma+, and $e don't $ant to deal $ith !hone #.
&ook, I have so many .uestions...I" you can et a "ee$in o" my
situation, what I want to know a#out this @9, !lease $rite a letter
about it...0n this grou!, or to me in !ersonal.
&ook uy, why don't you o to deja.com, do a powersearch and
read my posts "rom the $ast 2 weeks%
ou should be set.
0n 9on, '- Se! 'CCC 1,:.':-. F1B11, &randon ;an E"ery wrote1
I know some women, that's very con"ident and mature
themse$ves,and I have a hard time #e$ievin that they want to #e
around someone so arroant and se$"ish as @9. I think they
,,5
$ould gi"e him the finger and don't even think a#out him "or 2
sec.
6our instincts are correct.
Is that your unin"ormed opinion% Ah ah ah ah((( 3hat a joke.
Saturday I had $unch with that Dish, "eminist, po$itica$ science
student.
+a$$. /i tits. 9ice ass. She had &C/Fed me $ast year. So I te$$ her
he truth a#out what I'm doin. 4xp$ain her the concept o" @9.
What $e do. What he says. She claims he's a freak 2$hich I
genuinely think he is8, that on$y stupid women wou$d "a$$ "or it.
6eah riht. From then on I started p$ayin @9 style. Hoke on the
si4e of my $illie. 0n ho$ so many $oman $ant my body. And
that kind of cra!.
She laughed e"ery time. She ne"er e"er said I $as gross.
So here you go FF you make assum!tions about things you ha"en't
even tried. 6ou're a $oser.
/ut sti$$...I AM "ee$in drawn, I do #e$ieve on some $eve$ that
somethin is riht a#out what the @9 does.
6ou are experiencin a power "antasy a#out the possi#i$ity o"
many #a#es $inin up to suck your cock. Aet over yourse$", it ain't
rea$ity, not as "ar as #ain se$"-assured women is concerned.
Look, the babe $hose !ic is in the lounge and that he handed to
me is selfFassured, she's smart 2studied !hiloso!hy), she's
inde!endent, etc. She fell for it, =ust as - as her friends. 0h $ell
they became "riends a"ter a E some with him. Ah ah ah ah.
+he con"ident, mature, se$"-assured women have KnoK interest in
uys $ike @9...
/0&&KS!I+.
un$ess they "ee$ it is KtheirK preroative to o out and "uck some
man toniht. In that scenario, it incidenta$ that @9 e+ists $ith
his attitudes, he's an a"ailable body like any other a"ailable male
body.
ou are going to ha"e to fish for $omen $ho are either immature
or a bit
dys"unctiona$, "or @9's contrarian, #order$ine misoynist tactics
to work.
,,<
6ou're rea$$y an idiot. I was there, mind you. +hat's not what I
saw.
I sense you're a $oser, thouh.
)!ey ir$s, do you know how you can te$$ whether you $ike us%)
)9o%)
)3e$$ tonite, when you et #ack to your hote$, and you remove
your panties, throw it in the air, and i" it sticks to the wa$$, then
that means that you $iked us()
I can't #e$ieve +!46 F0;<I9A &A0A!4:.
:amn it.
!e seems to #e ettin #o$der #y the minute, i think thouh he
shou$d rea$ise that there has to #e $imits, otherwise he wi$$
seducesh the women $imits too "ar..
=ust my guess
*he danger is not in seduceshing too far. 8eo!le need>like being
seduceshed "ar,
especia$$y sexua$$y. +he daner is comin to the situation with so
many o" your own ideas, that you have no idea what's oin on.
6ou just simp$y #$urt out your own idea. 6ou aren't even $istenin
to see i" she has an idea, what her response is. +his $eaves you
with an ina#i$ity to understand K3!6K she does nor does not $ike
the joke you to$d. +o "iure out what turns her on or o"".
@9 sim!ly assumes that they $ant to get laid and that he is the
best thing that can ha!!en to them.
All in all, that seems to $ork better than anything else I'"e seen >
tried.
Sim!le.
Dha"e you seen my ne$ $atch(D
D$hat(D
Dit's a tele!athic $atch.D
DWhat(D
Dyeah he can guess things about youD
Dyeah right, like $hatD
Dhm ... right no$ it says that you ha"e no !antiesD
Dthen it must be $rongGD
D oh it must an hour fastD
,,B
3eres one I got today in the mail 2not from a chick, but I though it
$as cute). It $ould need some minor ad=ustments, I think but it
could $ork 2as Auotes or $ith you !laying the role of the
confident male):
A rather confident man, $alks into a bar and takes a seat ne+t to a
"ery attracti"e $oman. 3e gi"es her a Auick glance, then casually
looks at his $atch for a moment.
*he $oman notices this and asks, DIs your date running late(D
D/oD, he re!lies, DI =ust bought this stateFofFtheFart $atch and I
was just testin it.)
+he intriued woman says, )A state-o"-the-art watch% 3hat's so
specia$ a#out it%)
)It uses a$pha waves to te$epathica$$y ta$k to me,) he exp$ains.
)3hat's it te$$in you now%)
)3e$$, it says you're not wearin any panties.)
+he woman i$es and rep$ies, )3e$$ it must #e #roken then,
#ecause I am wearin panties()
And the man starts tappin on the watch "ace and says, ):amn
thin must #e an hour "ast()
In article ,
D;incent Run4aD $rote:
9y sister, $ho =ust graduated college, sends me the raunchiest
se+ =oke lists
imaginable. *hings you're '11Y sure $ere $ritten by horny
=u"enile college
guys. 8raise be to eFmail for o!ening my eyes to $hat college
girls find
"unny(
%heers, -d gra!hics o!timi4ation =ock &randon ;an E"ery
Seattle, WA
E+!erts eliminate the sim!ler mistakes in fa"or of the more
com!le+ ones, thereby achie"ing a higher degree of stu!idity. :F)
6ear &randon,
0k, dude, !ost 'em here, for %hrissakesG *here are ne$bies $ho
$ould lo"e to
,,?
be able to say, DA guy I kno$ got this =oke from his sister...D
Share the
wea$th(
Sincere$y,
=ince
Sent via :eja.com htt!:>>$$$.de=a.com>
Share $hat you kno$. Learn $hat you don't.
Whene"er they don't react !ositi"ely enough he goes:
D3ide your =oyGD
DLast time I sa$ someone as e+cited as you, he $as in comaGD
And the best of the best 2best res!onses):
DIf you don't like cute guys, =ust tell meGD
It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they
re!ly by: Dno, no, $e do like cute guysGD
I $ould ne"er ha"e belie"ed that $ithout seeing it ha!!ening
before my eyes.
Aaron R. Eulkis a ccrit:
/athan SÌLAR6 $rote:
Whene"er they don't react !ositi"ely enough he goes:
D3ide your =oyGD
DLast time I sa$ someone as e+cited as you, he $as in comaGD
And the best of the best 2best res!onses):
DIf you don't like cute guys, =ust tell meGD
It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it is, they
re!ly by: Dno, no, $e do like cute guysGD
I $ould ne"er ha"e belie"ed that $ithout seeing it happenin
#e"ore my eyes.
3hat he's doin is a$$ein that they su#scri#e to an undesira#$e
#e$ie", thust ;!A&&49AI9A them to re"ute what he has just said.
6eah and what's more he 54F5AM4S 7not in the /L8 meaning)
their untold ob=ection: the !roblem is not $hether they like him, it
becomes $hether they like cute guys or not, $hether they're cool
!eo!le or not ....
It's similar to the mechanism in"ol"ed in the techniAue of #ait and
switch or $ow#a$$ 7see ;ia$dini "or more in"o8.
+hat uy is ama@in.
,,C
'h he did phone c$ose E >D year o$ds ha$" an hour ao.
I have to o -- I have 7?Q to end the niht in an ory.
See ya F8
don't.
3henever they don't react positive$y enouh he oes1
)!ide your joy()
)&ast time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma()
And the #est o" the #est 7#est responses81
)I" you don't $ike cute uys, just te$$ me()
It's the #est #ecause, most o" the time, as outraeous as it is, they
rep$y #y1 )no, no, we do $ike cute uys()
I $ould ne"er ha"e belie"ed that $ithout seeing it happenin
#e"ore my eyes.
3hat makes @9 so succesful( /ot his dirty lines. +hey key is ...
know what you want.
'k, so yesterday I o to SE67%E #ar >, cross that ir$ who's
oin to the #athroom, C. I spot her stoo$ at the #ar. <now the
#arman, strike conversation @9 sty$e, she comes #ack, )hey #a#y,
#uy me a drink and you miht et $ucky tonite). Aot $auhs. She's
o" the rea$$y .uiet kino type. /riht enouh. FKKK ta$$. /i #oo#s.
'k, a D.
I o @9 a$$ the way. :ick jokes. =aina jokes. @9 challenges.
She reacts !ositi"ely but as I try to steal a kiss, she's s$iht$y
re$uctant.
I did'nt even phone c$ose, I cou$d have had.
3hat was missin compared to @9:
F did'nt try to seducell her some$here AuietI she $as in front of
her friend, e+!osed, and to the barman she kne$ as $ell.
F did'nt try to get her some$here A:*ER, her friend $as going
back home and she $as lea"ing to accom!any her to the metro.
I could ha"e said offered some o!!ortunity, or e"en got her to
sho$ me her !laceGGG %ra4y( /ot that cra4y, dudeG I'"e seen
cra@ier happen.
- I did'nt even phone c$ose, #ut I don't miss it that much.
-- 3e're $es#ians(
-- 'h yeah% I et a$on rea$$y we$$ with $es#ians.
,-1
I used to have $ots o" $es#ian "riends. 3e$$ now that they've met
@9 they're not anymore, o" course( &'& Are you ready to get laid
t$ice a day(
0kay here are your e+ercise for the $eek: a!!roach . $omen a
$eek, !referrably !airs thereof, and seducet the follo$ing in the
con"ersation
FF only, in a humorous $ayG And e"ery time she looks "e+ed by the
insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her Dyou're =ust kiddingD.
, hours. /o $e can't go to my !lace because I ha"e a friend
slee!ing there.
FF 3ide your !leasureG
FF I lo"e myself sooo much I can't lea"e myself alone.
FF I $ish I could s!lit myself in 5 @9 so that I could !lease all the
$omen.
So try that kind of stuff and re!ort. 0h yeah, and ne"er forget that
your aim is to drag her to a !ri"ate corner to seducet your $illie
inside. /othign else.
0k some more lines:
FF if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite
FF I can't !lease e"ery girl but I'll gi"e you a chance tonite
FF $omen are lining u! to be $ith me
FF it's tough to be such a se+ symbol
FF are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit ne+t to you(
W07L6GG
3e $ould I: he did'nt say DH7S* EI66I/@ D SbeforeS she has a
chance to re!ly.
,-'
8sychologically s!eaking, since she does not ha"e the time to re!ly
negati"ely, she's some$hat agreeing. It's rather ob"ious when you
see it happenin.
I" she starts rep$yin neative$y, he cuts her down #y sayin, )yeah
I $ike to say stupid thins, $i"e's too short not to have "un) or )I $ike
to act $ike a $itt$e kid -- I'm a kid).
wrote1
!e hus them a"ter his "irst $ine a$ready% !ow can he et away
with intrudin their persona$ space so ear$y on% I wou$d uess that
doin that wou$d reseduce$se the ir$s even more.
embarrassment cause #y the insu$t.
,sycho$oica$$y speakin, since she does not have the time to
rep$y neative$y, she's somewhat areein. It's rather o#vious
when you see it happenin.
I" she starts rep$yin neative$y, he cuts her down #y sayin,
)yeah I $ike to say stupid thins, $i"e's too short not to have "un) or
)I $ike to act $ike a $itt$e kid -- I'm a kid).
And then what does he do% !e just keeps makin sex-jokes, or he
wa$ks away%
9o he carries on.
:oes @9 constantly talks to the girl2s) he $ants, or does he chat,
$alk o"", come #ack $ater to "o$$ow up%
:oes @9 get '1s(
*here's a !icture of a '? yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's IM'
c$ose to >*. 7+he #$onde one sittin at a ca"I8
'n 3ed, *L Sep >DDD 2E1EP1?7 AM+, mr.mor wrote1
'< these are #oth very power"u$, S' ;'=45 05 90+S '5
+!46 MA6 /4 ;50S!4:(
) hey#a#e, I was hopin you cou$d he$p me out "or a sec % 6ou see
a snake just #it my nads and i need you to suck the poison out)
,-,
From @9: DAre you hands clean( FF eah FF 0k, could you hold
my SSS for Status1 '
me whi$e I'm peein%)
5ea$$y cute, "innish. /ut she was waitin "orher #ad #oy. @9 is
smooth1 a uy had just #een rejected >*s #e"ore. !e comp$ains
a#out that shit 7A:%s hitting on girls) that fuck his a!!roach.
A!!roach another t$o set. We're getting no$here. 3e asks them
for a !iece of !a!er. 0n it he $rite:
?:-1 F 1
?:.5 F 1
C:11 F 1
C:'5 F (
L0L
E"ery time $e do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works "ine to et
whatever you want, as you wi$$ see.
3e approach another two1 they're rea$$y cute. /ut one o" them is
#itchy and "ucks it up -- the cutest one cou$d #e a$most "or it. As
they don't o with the proram he ets even more direct -- exp$ains
his phi$osophy1 take no prisoners, err phone num#ers, I have that
many women, etc ... +he cuter one is "ascinated. 3e o""er one $ast
time to o to my p$ace to ce$e#rate my #irthday with champane,
they don't say no #ut the #itchy one #itches -- s$iht$y. !e ejects --
in a 'you can't "ire me cause I .uit' way, he's rea$$y proud o" it.
+o reta$iate we enae two merkins in "ront o" them. !e's not too
direct with them. A"ter J? min we o to my p$ace to dirnk
champane. 'ne o" them is somewhat cute, "u$$y pierce, I wou$d
have thouht she was a $es#ian. +he other one is shy and a #it too
"at "or my taste. !e $eaves me the "at one c$aimin it's onna #e
easier. 9ot( !e takes Ms,iercin #ack to the #edroom. I pattern
the "at one and et a hand jo# on her nice titties, #ut no more. +he
#itch is wet #ut it's not in her standard. +hat was $on to et
thouh. She $eaves, "ee$in uncom"orta#$e. In the mean time @9
has fucked 28I; and ass) 9s8iercing. We go back to the li"ing
room, and ha"e a nice
,--
chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natura$ it is. @9 is pissed o""
#c he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick as my #irthday
present. 9o. So he ets her to show me her titties, 7pierced8, then
$ater undresses her, "ee$s her up, I do the same, she sucks my dick
whi$e he "ucks her. She con"essed to me that she $iked me more 7%8
-- that's happened #e"ore 2 days ao, it's pro#a#$y the ood cop M
#ad cop thinie.
Any$ay, she's really comfortable $ith it. 3e claims to ha"eun
stucked her. %ould be belie"ed. 3a"e to kno$ ho$ he does that.
missed a ood "uck -- two ood "ucks actua$$y, he says. She arees.
Approach he had used1 I o te$$ a ir$ that my "riend is pissed o""
that she did'nt say he$$o to him, despite the "act they've met #e"ore.
women at my p$ace, one o" them mentions the "act that we have the
mornin pi$$ in France, #ut not yet in the 0S. @91 )6ou won't
&'& Cust kiddin).
As he ets into 'rapport' with the ir$s, I've noticed, he ets more
and more direct, sometimes comp$ete$y omittin the 'just kiddin'
part.
'n +hu, *D Sep >DDD >E1J?1*7 AM+, $hoisthis'COmyFde=a.com
wrote1
In artic$e N-B6B'5&1.--::A:<'Ometabork.fr.eu.org,
9athan SOI&A5: wrote1 Sit at the reu$ar ca"e. !e enaes a
sin$e ir$. I see him, o do some stu"". She was waitin "or
someone. 3e enae another one. 5ea$$y cute, "innish. /ut she
was waitin "or her #ad #oy. @9 is smooth: a guy had =ust been
re=ected '1s #e"ore.
6ou mean rejection doesnt phase him a #it and he just keeps on
p$uin away%
,-.
I don't get it( A guy a!!roached her lamely. 3e does his stu""
anyway.
!e comp$ains a#out that shit 7A:%s hitting on girls) that "uck
his approach.
;omp$ains to you or to the targets%
+o me. !e a$ways comp$ains a#out A:%s fucking u! his a!!roach.
3o!efully he's here to change that for the ne+t guys to come on
them 18
Approach another two set. 3e're ettin
nowhere. !e asks them "or a piece o" paper. 'n it he write1
L1E* - *
L1J? - *
D1** - *
D1>? - %
&'&
4very time we do the 'it's his #irthday' immick. 3orks "ine to
et whatever you want, as you wi$$ see.
Aod damn what an easy and e""ective immic(
6eah, and even i" it's an overused one, we don't ive a damn shit.
3e approach another two1 they're rea$$y cute. /ut one o"
them is #itchy and "ucks it up -- the cutest one cou$d
#e a$most "or it. As they don't o with the proram he ets
even more direct -- exp$ains his phi$osophy1 take no prisoners,
err phone num#ers, I have that many women, etc ... +he cuter
one is "ascinated. 3e o""er one $ast time to o to my p$ace
to ce$e#rate my #irthday with champane, they don't say no
#ut the #itchy one #itches -- s$iht$y. !e ejects -- in a
'you can't "ire me cause I .uit' way, he's rea$$y proud o"
it.

+o reta$iate we enae two merkins in "ront o" them.
:id the Merkins see you ta$kin to the #itchy one and her "riend
and S44
you eject%
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Actua$$y, yeah. @9 c$aimed they were "riend o" ours.
!e's not
too direct with them. A"ter J? min we o to my p$ace to dirnk
champane.
3e're they into the #irthday excuse or were they oin there to et
$aid. 3hen does @9 make the )come to my p$ace) move% !ow
"ar is your
p$ace "rom the ca"es%
)Sure, @9, I promised you we'd have some o" that rea$$y ood
one(
!ey ir$s, wanna drink some rea$$y ood champane%)
)3here%)
)At my p$ace)
)!e $ives just round the corner)
And then he insists a $itt$e #it. &ike, not #u$$y sty$e, #ut
he keeps askin the .uestion, every > or 2 mins.
My p$ace is rea$$y c$ose "rom the ca"I -- that's actua$$y the reason
why he does that with me( 6es, he uses me. I don't ive a damn
shit1
I'm usin him too.
I pattern the "at one and et a hand jo# on her
nice titties, #ut no more. +he #itch is wet #ut it's not in
her standard. +hat was $on to et thouh. She $eaves,
"ee$in uncom"orta#$e.
Ms,iercin. 3e o #ack to the $ivin room, and have a nice
chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natura$ it is. @9 is
pissed o"" #c he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick
as my #irthday present. 9o.
,-<
Is !4 /I% or was this just a joke% or did you $eave out the word
)her)
9o he's not #i, he asked !45 o" course.
So he ets her to show me her titties,
7pierced8, then $ater undresses her, "ee$s her up, I do the
same, she sucks my dick whi$e he "ucks her. She con"essed to
me that she $iked me more 7%8 -- that's happened #e"ore 2
days ao, it's pro#a#$y the ood cop M #ad cop thinie.
:amn this is erotic. a$t.sex.stories.true $o$
Anyway, she's rea$$y com"orta#$e with it. !e c$aims to have
un stucked her. ;ou$d #e #e$ieved. !ave to know how he does
that.
9o kiddin( !e's ot to have a ood techni.ue in #ed.

!e wants that "oursome thin. I "ind the idea o" a ir$
#rinin in that 'trap' rather interestin. @9 ets her to
aree that the "at one missed a ood "uck -- two ood "ucks
actua$$y, he says. She arees.
I see @9 takin the $ead in most o" this #ut I'm sure your doin
thins
too. I'$$ #et @9 is more e""ective with you as a $ingman than he
was
a$one. 3hat kind o" thins do you do%
I don't do much( Actua$$y I think that most o" the time I'd rather
shut up than #reak stu"". Sometimes he te$$s me what to say, or
ets nervous #c I'm too .uiet. !e's rea$$y sarcastic whenever
I say somethin too common or not "unny or neative -- which I
hard$y ever do anyway.
,-B
In ca"es do you approach woman who are havin dinner or just
ki$$in
time havin co""ee% Are woman used to #ein approached in
these p$aces.
Any woman.
!ere it wou$d #e unusua$, unaccepta#$e and @9 $ould get
thro$n out of
any cafe here.
Look, it's really sim!le: he kno$s the bartenders by their name,
they
kno$ $hat he's u! to. Actually most of them are =ealous and act
like "ultures, and fuck u! his a!!roach from time to time. &ut no
"iolence.
And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are
making
them laugh, nobody $ill think you're bothering them.
A!!roach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is
!issed off that she did'nt say hello to him, des!ite the
fact they'"e met before.
3o$ did it $ork out(
She got seduce44led, did'nt belie"e me, looked at him. I $ent back
to sit do$n, he $ent u!, chatted her, but she $as lea"ing for
the theatre or something.
0h yeah another interesting one: $hile $e $ere fluffing
the t$o $omen at my p$ace, one o" them mentions the "act
that we have the mornin pi$$ in France, #ut not yet in
the 0S. @91 )6ou won't need it tonite, we a$ways use condoms.
&'& Cust kiddin).
+his is so use"u$ #ecause I hate dancin around the
condomMveneria$
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disease issue. !e "inds ways to joke a#out it. May#e what I just
said
is key. !e says what he wants to say and asks "or what he wants
#ut
a$ways with humor. :o you "ind him "unny% :o the woman
$auh at his
jokes%
64S +!46 :'( +!A+'S 3!A+ I'M +A&<I9A A/'0+( I+'S I9-
;54-:I/&4 --
/0+ +!46 &A0A!((((
As he ets into 'rapport' with the ir$s, I've noticed, he
ets more and more direct, sometimes comp$ete$y omittin
the 'just kiddin' part.

Aod( 9'''''' S!I+((( 5eme#er when you said he just ta$ked
to a a$ "or
a#out 2* seconds and she $e"t with him% :id you ever et the
story
#ehind that% :id he just o up and ask her to "uck% +hat was in
a
disco wasnt it%
9ot 2*sec, ? mins. /ut sti$$. 9ot a disco, a ca"eM#ar. !e did'nt AS<
"or a "uck -- he never AS<S he o""ers ;!A9;4S. And she was
$auhin.
I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remem#er exact$y 7how
cou$d he%8
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+o me. !e a$ways comp$ains a#out A:%s "uckin up his
approach.
=u$tures. !e a$so c$aims that he has to reproram women "or the
others1 with a$$ that ass-$ickin they "ee$ too important.
!ope"u$$y he's here to chane that "or the next uys to come
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on them 18
!e makes an exce$$ant point a#out 3&s "ee$in too important that
sounds
$ike mystery. !e seems to #e a natura$. I wonder i" he went
throuh an
A:% phase once%
Indeed. And it's most$y a pro#$em with the most #eauti"u$ ir$s --
#ut not a$$. Mystery knows how to disarm them, #ut S+I&&, it's
"uckin touh. @9 routes against that by sur!rising them $ith
his a!!roachI ho$e"er they can be Auick to seducet themse$ves
#ack
in that position.
And here I have an interestin thouht1 I have the impression that
sometimes they catch themse$ves in this ha#itF you have somethin
to o""er 7that's #asica$$y what @9 says a$$ the time8, and you
sense that they a$most "a$$ "or it, /0+ they're so used to #itchin
and "ee$in important and 'winnin' -- whatever it means -- that
they do the same o$d proram aain.
Interestin @9 thin1 one woman c$aimed that we were on our
#att$e "ie$d. !e denied the term '#att$e' -- no one $oses. 3e a$$
win. ,$easure.
'n Sun, >2 Sep >DDD *L1>71J> AM+, '$dschoo$ wrote1
Approach B> - I decided ear$y that niht to imp$ement the -s ru$e.
I
see 2 women at the #ar 7L.? and P.?8, and I approach. )I can't
#e$ieve these men are a$$ around you $adies, and not one has said
anythin to you(( !i, my name is 4d. . .). I try to run some jokes
and ask a#out schoo$, etc. 4very time I ask a .uestion, the L.?
$ooks
at the P.? as i" to say )what a "uckin $oser) throuh her stare. I
@9's rep$y in that case1 )So what, you don't $ike handsome
#$okes%
,.1
+e$$ me, cause I rea$$y don't $ike ivin
pear$s to swines)
catch on, and ive an awkward #ow-out, )we$$, I'm onna et #ack
to my
"riends now. It was nice meetin you. . .) 3hat a "uckin $oser
$ine((( 9o rapport "rom the start. 9o way in he$$ I was onna
c$ose
in a decent way.
)!ey ir$s, do you know how you can te$$ whether you $ike us%)
)9o%)
)3e$$ tonite, when you et #ack to your hote$, and you remove
your
panties, throw it in the air, and i" it sticks to the wa$$, then
that means that you $iked us()
I can't #e$ieve +!46 F0;<I9A &A0A!4:.
:amn it.
Simp$e.
)have you seen my new watch%)
)what%)
)it's a te$epathic watch.)
)3hat%)
)yeah he can uess thins a#out you)
)yeah riht, $ike what)
)hm ... riht now it says that you have no panties)
)then it must #e wron()
) oh it must an hour "ast)
nightlightCOhotmail.com a Icrit1
!eres one I ot today in the mai$ 7not "rom a chick, #ut I thouh it
,.'
was cute8. It wou$d need some minor adjustments, I think #ut it
cou$d
work 7as .uotes or with you p$ayin the ro$e o" the con"ident
ma$e81
A rather con"ident man, wa$ks into a #ar and takes a seat next
to a very attractive woman. !e ives her a .uick $ance, then
casua$$y $ooks at his watch "or a moment.
+he woman notices this and asks, )Is your date runnin $ate%)
)9o), he rep$ies, )I just #ouht this state-o"-the-art watch and
I was just testin it.)
+he intriued woman says, )A state-o"-the-art watch% 3hat's so
specia$ a#out it%)
)It uses a$pha waves to te$epathica$$y ta$k to me,) he exp$ains.
)3hat's it te$$in you now%)
)3e$$, it says you're not wearin any panties.)
+he woman i$es and rep$ies, )3e$$ it must #e #roken then,
#ecause I am wearin panties()
And the man starts tappin on the watch "ace and says, ):amn
thin must #e an hour "ast
3henever they don't react positive$y enouh he oes1
)!ide your joy()
)&ast time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma()
And the #est o" the #est 7#est responses81
)I" you don't $ike cute uys, just te$$ me()
It's the #est #ecause, most o" the time, as outraeous as it
is, they rep$y #y1 )no, no, we do $ike cute uys()
,.,
I wou$d never have #e$ieved that without seein it
happenin #e"ore my eyes.
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I wasn't a#out to pick her up #c a #artender )"riend) o" mine
was on the proram, #ut I p$an to pick up the remnants anyway.
7'nce his #i times A:% tendencies have shot him down ...8
I went @9 "u$$ sty$e a$#eit with $itt$e kino. She went kino
thouh, s$appin me on the top o" my head as she was tota$$y
crakin up.
A"ter severa$ #i dicks se$" promotin comments, I said1
)6ou know, that rea$$y #others me, a$$ those ir$s and uys
oin a"ter me, and they're on$y interested #ecause o" it,
you know, I want to #e appreciated "or who I am, not "or
just my !0A4 penis.) And then )I shou$d'nt ta$k a#out that,
I don't want you to #e incredi#$y turned on, ... I don't
want you to make a menta$ picture o" a huuuuuuuuuuuue
throoo#in tasty penis.) !er eyes were $owin -- you
cou$d te$$ what she had in mine((((((((((((
+hat was "unny. +his @9 thin is soooo "unny.
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roup.
AS:'s practica$ FAG and new#ie startin point1
htt!:>>metabork.fr.eu.org>bnathan>
'n 3ed, >E 'ct >DDD >P1*>1>2 -*7**, Mike wrote1
7...8
+hen as is "i$$ed up and she thanks me and ets in her car and I
say,
Rsure, why donHt we continue this some other time, $ike say over
co""ee%S. SheHs says, R;o""ee% Sure, IHm sure IH$$ see you around
here
,.-
aain.S Me, R9o you wonHt, IHm not even "rom here, IHm "rom
=ancouver.S
!er, R'h, IHm "rom Surrey. 3e$$, I donHt o out "or co""ee with
peop$e I
donHt know.S
@91 )Me neither, #ut I'm in a ood mood today, and I thouht I
wou$d
#e nice and wou$d $et you have that chance to #e with me
aain)
!uh, don't know i" it's that ood.
Me, R3e$$, te$$ you what, then why donHt we exchane
num#ers and we can ta$k on the phone and et to know each other
there
and then we can o "or co""ee.S !er 7in semi-trance #y now8, Rdo
you
have a pen%S. I "um#$e "or a pen, we exchane num#ers and that
was it.
TTTTTTTTTTT
She asks, soudns ood.
It was done in a#out three to "our minutes and +om to$d me that
the as
station attendant came out to make sure I wasnHt oin to mo$est
her or
somethin. 'h yeah, the #ars we went to were interestin. As
interestin
as #ars "rom !e$$ cou$d et.
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Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not
supplicate
/o shit, heh(
,..
I hooked u! $ith @9 after a fe$ months of interru!tion.
*he guy got in se"ere financial !roblems. 3e's still - months late
in !ayment, and he can't get it u! to fuck anything o"er -1, so he
can't e"en make money off his skills.
Any$ay.
I sucked latelyI you might ha"e noticed I ha"en't !osted in a $eek,
I $as stuck in bed, mostly. So $e did'nt do anythin specia$. I just
ot to $isten to him ta$kin
on the phone, and we had one niht out, nothin reat.
&ut hey. What he gets of them.
Sim!le. 3e $ants some chick 2'? yo) to come o"er. 3e =ust tells
her that he $on't be able to see her in a $hile because another
chick is coming to "isit him the ne+t day, staying for a $eek, then
another one, Dand you $on't be able to come o"er then, because
remember last time you came, $e had se+ in front of her, and she
did'nt like it, you kno$ she tra"elled all the $ay to England, it's
really not nice of you.D
*hen he says that he's ne"er going to marry her ((((
2What( Is she e"en belie"ing it to be !ossible((()
Last time he sa$ her, she brought a friend o"er, she left for 5
minutes, and in the mean time, he $as fucking the friend GGG
Shit, I can't hel! doubting him, but $hen E;ER*I9E
I challenge him, he !ro"es me $rongG Like, I did'nt
belie"e the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. /o
!roblemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, seducet the
$oudspeaker on, and et her to more or $ess descri#e
the "uckin scene(((
/ut what's interestin is that he's A&3A6S respect"u$
o" them. !e never ca$$s them s$uts or #itches. !e
starts #ein anry when they don't do what he wants,
and then, he makes them "ee$ $ike it's their "au$t,
that they don't respect him.
So he ets the chick to come over, and on top o" that
)oh and I don't want a i"t this time) he says.
,.5
)'h wait I have somethin "or you) she rep$ies.
:on't know what it is.
I had to o, was "uckin exhausted, so I did'nt
et to see the chick. Fuckin headache.
:oh. :ou#$e trip$e doh.
+he @9 method% +hey don't want to do what you want
o" them% Make them "ee$ ui$ty a#out it. Insist. :o
as i" they had said yes when they haven't said anythin
de"inite. !e does that with me too. It's hard to
resist actua$$y. 4ven thouh he knew I was sick he
sti$$ wanted me to han out with him and comp$ained
#ecause I cou$d'nt come sarging with him.
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Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again.
And it is: don't su!!licate, you th$art.
*he Auestion $as: all the $omen, es!. the foreigners, com!lain
about slea4y men al$ays trying to !ick them u! in the street,
and indeed, it ha!!ens all the time in 8aris.
@9's answer1 )what% 6'0, ettin picked up% &'&( 6ou shou$d
#e rate"u$.)
3here it's not supp$ication1 he is enuine$y o""ended to
#e associated with this phenomenon. !e reacts anri$y .
!e shows it. 3ho do you think you are to ca$$ M4 a
s$ea@e% +hat's the messae he conveys.
More enera$$y1 he conveys this attitude a$$ the time.
/e rate"u$ that I ta$k to you. ),ear$s #e"ore swines)
he says a$$ the time 7)donner de $a con"iture aux
cochons)8.
,.<
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Using music to lay an engaged chick!
$ell,$ell......this is an ama4ing lay re!ort and I really thank
9aniac and all the other SSers $hose !rinci!les I follo$ed for
doing this thing $e call seduction. *$o most im!ortant things I
learnt here are do not listen to $hat the $oman says, rather look at
her e+!ressions......$ell i read it some$here.......no$ i kno$ it's
true.......and the second one........try try till you succeed. 0k the
re!ort is kinda long and s!ans o"er t$o meetFu!s, so hang on co4 i
ha"e $ritten it all u!.
PART 1 (How I met her!!!!!):
Well it all started at my friends birthday bash...i al$ays used her as
a !i"ot to get to kno$ more girls but someho$ not many of them
$ere
3&s. *here $as this one 3& though....but she ne"er came out $ith
us....so i ne"er really had a chance on her. &ut it $as on that day
that she came and there she $as dressed in black.......the ty!es i
really freaked out for. I told my friend that i am gonna do her....and
my friend told me that she $as already engaged to a guy and $as
abt to
get married in . months. It $as a little sur!rising but i thought
$hat
the heck. S0 i =ust $ent u!to her and started s!eaking....I shook
her
hands and seducet one hand around her $aist and sur!risingly she
took it
rather easy. So i asked her $hat she did(2eliciting
"alues...)....seems
she is a soft$are !rofessional in some firm....$ell i told her that me
too is a s>$ !rofessional2actually am)..so it $as kinda easy.......then
i started EI/0ing her.......telling her about the Dnatural $omanD
2the
!attern) and it $ent to her head. she $as into me...and then i asked
her....D$hat is your best ke!t secret(something that no one kno$s(
something that you cherish(D.....and she $ent like...D$hy ask(D.
$ell i
,.B
$as kinda taken aback...but i told her that I really liked kno$ing
$hat
$omen truly $ere and these $ere the things that brought out the
best in
them.......$ell it didn't kinda $ork out.....so i s$itched.,,,,i asked
her $hat $as her most !assionate moment(...to that she ans$ered
that
she really lo"ed long long $et kisses.....and there i got the lead. I
asked her if she $anted that again...holding her by her arm i
seducelled
her a lil close to me......i looked her in the eyes and she leaned in
for a moment and then suddenly seducelled back and said that she
had a guy
and $as engaged. Since I already kne$ this...i =ust $ent like
D3eyGGGI
like to share s!ecial moments $ith $omen. 9oments that bring
back
s!ecial feelings. 9oments that they treasure for a long time.....D
She
seemed to go into it, but again came out of the trance......and then i
reali4ed that all this $hile she $as also holding me. and I asked her
if she $anted to go else$here.....to $hich she said that she did not
mind it some other day. So i asked for her # and she readily ga"e it
to
me and asked me to call the moment i reached home. I $as kinda
sur!rised....co4 i kne$ she $anted it but someho$ she $as not
con"inced. I tried to get into her but she al$ays seducelled back.
And then
$e celebrated the !arty and i !layed the guitar2i al$ays !lay at
friend's !arties)....and then i !layed a "ery ama4ing song DAngelD
by
aerosmith and dedicated it to DSomeone really s!ecial...someone
$ho
kno$s that !assion has no boundaries.......D2hehehhehGGGG).....and
there she $as looking at me straight in the eye...throughout the
song......as if she $anted me that "ery nite.........but it =ust didn't
,.?
ha!!en.....maybe i $as not to sure of it. any$ays i =ust left for
home.....bugged that I had her and really could ha"e had her.
8AR* ,2ho$ i 6I6 3ERGGGGG):
S0 as soon as i $ent home i called her u!. I don't kno$ if this is an
A:% style or not...but someho$ i $as !rety sure i $anted her the
ne+t
day....so the headrush =ust made me call her u! immediately. She
$as
not at all sur!rised and told me that she $as !retty im!ressed by
my
guitar !laying.....and i told her that I could gi"e her a u! close
!erformance if she $anted. *hat $as it......she $as =ust $aiting for
that. she told me that she $ould see me at <:11!m the other day.
And
ga"e me her address. I !icked her u! from her !lace at <:'5!m....i
seducer!osely $ent in late co4 i $anted to see ho$ she reacted at
this...$ell she did not e"en mind.....then i kne$ i $as getting her
tonite. Well $e $ent home and I ha"e the most ama4ing collection
of
candles in my room and then she asked me if i got many girls all
the
time.....to $hich i saiid....Di like meeting $omen and kno$ing $hat
they like and $hat makes each one so different from the other.D
She leaned into me and asked me if i $as gonna !erform for
her.........i $as like......Din the bed or the guitarD...and then =ust
smiled and $inked.and said D=ust kiddingD. !layed t$o songs for
her
2Lo"e of a lifetime...:IRE307SE and %ARRIE......E7R08E)by
that time she
$as ready to kiss....co4 i could see it in her eyes....i =ust ke!t my
guitar and $e kissed........she sto!!ed but someho$ again came
in.....and it $as long long long long......real long.........and then i
started rubbing her all o"er....she started coming out of the trance
,.C
and said that she already had a guy and that i $as only for the
guitar
that she had come and ho$ the guitar really ama4ed her the other
nite.
and ho$ she lo"ed music.....i asked her if she e"er e+!erienced the
R*39 of L0;E....she kinda looked confused and i =ust grabbed
her and
kissed her but this time i faked some rythms....like i kissed her
short..then mo"ed out and looked in her eyes....and then again
kissed
her long and mo"ed out.....2some stu!id thing to go $ith the
R*39 0:
L0;E that i mentioned to her) re!eated this till she $as really on
me...$e $ere already on my bed and she $as sitting on to! of
me......i
started massaging her breasts and she started moaning but at the
same
time she ke!t on taking my hands off her breasts...reminded me of
an
incident $ith maniac.....she $as gi"ing but not too ready...so i
seducelled
her to$ards me and then again kissed her long long long
time.......and
she stated cla$ing me gently.....i again started massaging her
breasts...all this $hile she $as on to! of me....so then i =ust tried
seducelling off her to!.....she hesitated and i told her that I $ill =ust
see and i !romise i $ont do anything she does not like....2another
trick from SS).......she let me take it off and i seducelled her
to$ards me
and kissed her again2thanking her for letting me do it...$ell it
really
$orks...for e"ery good thing she does let her kno$ that u
a!!reciate
it)......i stated doing her ni!!les and she started moaning real
loud......i asked if o could suck them, she said yeah but that $ill be
it,...nothing more.....i agreed to that and i started sucking
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her....no$ i seducet her on the bed and i $ent on her....sucking her
ni!!les....and massaging her breasts.....i seducet my one hand in
her !ants
and o!ened her u!...but she =ust seduceshed a$ay my hand saying
that I
!romised that i $ont do it......i kissed her for long long long time
again....and this time $hen kissing i took of her !ants......she $as
$earing those ama4ing !anties......and i $as like $o$.....she again
started seduceshing me gently but at the same time held me
tight...you
kno$....she $as seduceshing me but again her gri! on my arms
$as getting
harder meaning that she didn't $anna let go of me.....so i again
kissed
her...and did her ni!!les and then took off her !anties !romising
her
that i $ould =ust see........she had an ama4ing seducessy....a real
good
one....so i started mo"ing my li!s there....and then she =ust started
going D/0/0//0/0/0/0//00D...not that...!lease i ha"e a
guy......i
kissed her again and then slid my fingerthere....."ery slo$ly...but
she
ke!t on hesitating.....i kissed her again.....this time i really sho"ed
my finger dee! inside....she again $ent off......and i told her that I
still had my !ants on so i $ould not do anything...she seemed
con"inced
$ith that and she let me finger her slo$ly.........then she looked at
my crotch e"ery second.....the moment i $ent dee! in she looked
there
and then closed her eyes....and i $as like Dthat is itD and i =ust took
my !ants off.....she again $ent $ith her story of ho$ she likes her
&:
and that he $ill kill me if he kno$s abt this....and that she is
getting married to him in . months.....i =ust ignored it and started
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kissing her.....someho$ kissing her al$ays brought her back to the
same
old horny state...........this time i $ent do$n and licked it and she
$ent mad.....and she called out my name........so i $as
like..........ok i am gonna do it to u......she $ent like DI really lo"
emy manD.....i rolled on a condom and got close to her and
sur!risingly
she s!read her legs a!art saying D ou don't kno$ ho$ much i lo"e
him....D2hehehehehGGGG) and i started drilling her.....she $as totally
into it and she started groaning like cra4y......i $as kinda sur!rised
co4 i ne"er kne$ she $ould be this loud.......i seducem!ed and
seducem!ed till
i came...she came t$ice before me......i asked her if she $anted it
again.....she told me yes....this time i got u! lit all the candles and
then asked her to do me.....she sat on me and started riding
me,.......reall slo$ in the beginning......then she started biting my
ni!!les and then seducem!ed me more and more.....she $as
sAuatting like
hell in no time....i $as !laying $ith her breasts and fucking her and
she $as groaning like cra4ee.....and it took us long long time to
cum......but $hen $e orgasmed,....i $as in hea"en....co4 she had
this
thing of gri!!ing my dick, i donIt kno$ ho$....not many $omen i
kno$ do
that.....$hene"er i $ent "ery fast she =ust gri!!ed it a lil more so
that i had to seducet more effort to do it $ith the same
s!eed....ha"e
anyone of u e+!erienced this before......she came and she
came....and
then i kissed her again2thanking her)....$e s!oke for abt an
hour.....i
really kinda liked the girl....but $as trying not to meet her
again.....she told me that she met her guy sometime back and then
she
fell in lo"e and got engaged and that she really lo"ed him and
$ould
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not do anything to make him sad.....and cra!GGGI $as sur!rised co4
she
$as actually contradicting her....then she kissed me again....and
told
me that she lo"ed me too......i $as like, DheyGGGGyou ha"e a nice
guy,let's =ust remember this as one of those s!ecial moments i $as
telling you about.....a secret that you $ill ne"er tell anyone......D
to $hich she smiled and asked me if i $anted her again.....$e
doggied
this time and after that i $as all dead...co4 she takes a long long
time to come as time goes by......but $e s!oke again....the same old
story...and she told me that she $ould like to see me again....i $as
like...DyeahGGGif $e're lucky enuff...$e $ill meet againD before she
started making !romises i =ust s$itched the to!ic and got her to
bed.....$e sle!t and then she left early morning at about
?:11am....not
reali4ing that $e sle!t at 5:11am.....but i $as ha!!y that she left
co4
u ne"er kno$ $hen they change their mind. She hasn't called me
u!
yet....but has eFmailed me......i think i am gonna kee! her for long
fucks............$hen i really ha"e enuff time and energy.....GGG
heheheh
there it is: i really like to thank maniac and the others....some
things i did $ere directly maniac's !rinci!les......and i really $ould
not ha"e gotten her $>o them. 0thers i =ust read and !icked u!
from the forum. So chill out guys.....$ill let you kno$ more abt
3&s as time !asses by. till then
regards,
Handling women who want to feel "controlled"!
Sub=ect: %hick Re!ortG 6etecting and controlling $omen $ho
$ant to be controlledG
%hick Re!ortG 6etecting and controlling $omen $ho $ant to be
controlledG
*his is not strictly a SE67%E re!ort like my others. I ha"e
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found that many $omen like to be controlled, and that
this is a "ery intense and !leasurable feeling for many
$omen. I am going to talk about that in this re!ort,
using recent e+!eriences I ha"e had $ith 3& Afro,
3& Ass and 9s. Einky 2see lay re!orts on my site for
more info about these !articular $omen..). If you are
looking for =ust ho$ to SE67%E a chick, then this re!ort is
not for you.. &ut if you are $ondering ho$ to totally
get into a chick's head, and make her feel intense
feelings like no one else has e"er made her..then read
on.
Warning, this is not your ordinary outing re!ort. Its
long, and there is all sorts of shit on !sychology,
control, S9 and other stuff like that in here that gets
$omen's rocks off. %onstructi"e comments and
o!inions on these stories are $elcomeG
:irst an o"er"ie$. 9ost of the $omen I fuck kno$ I
fuck other $omen. *hey also ha"e told me that they
continue to see me because no guy has e"er been able
to make them feel as good as the $ay I can make
them feel, and that no guy has e"er been able to get
in, and control their bodies.., and their minds,.. like I
do, and make them feel so good and ec+tasy $hile it
is ha!!ening .that someho$ I ha"e a s!ecial talent
for this..
I don't kno$ if its true, but thats $hat I ha"e been
told.. So I $ill talk about $hat I do, ho$ and $hy,
and $ill ask for your o!inions on $hat might be
ha!!ening and $hy the $omen might like this so
much..
:irst, some things about myself. I like se+, and SE67%E.
&ut also I like more than that. I like to not only fuck a
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chick, but I am fascinated about ho$ to get into a
$oman's mind, and maniseducelate all of her emotions
absolutely.e+ctasy, fear, e+citement, !ain, control,
both !hysically and emotionally. in such a $ay, that
I can control the e+!erience for the $oman, so that it
is "ery intense feeling !sychologically as $ell as
!hysically, and e+tremely !leasureable.
F*he $omen:
Actually, the $omen you meet in bars $ith the short
skirts and se+y heels, are /0* into this sort of thing
usually.they are a "ery much $hat you see is $hat
you get. She is often not so bright, likes a sim!le
straight fuck, and then goes home, or goes sho!!ing
for more skirts or something. ou cannot do mind
games $ith dumb $omen.you say stuff, but nothing
ha!!ens inside her head.. I don't go out long $ith
dumb $omen..e"en if they are hot and se+y.. I fuck
them till I get bored, and then breaku! $ith them, or
LH&: them.. as after the !hysical fuck, there is
nothing more you can do really.
Rather, I found that the $omen that are most into this
sort of thing, tend to be highly intelligent, and on the
outside at least, rather conser"ati"e looking. *hey
may be "ery !hysically attractice, but they $ear long
skirts, thick glasses.ie the DlibrariansD of the
$orld. So $hat I tend to do, is SE67%E the librarians,
and then take them sho!!ing for se+y clothes, and
corru!t them more and more as they go out $ith me..
*hey also are really good fucks, and also like the
mind fucks too.
F3& ass has her fun.. ho$ I find out she likes agony
and humiliation 2and use that to gi"e her the
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best fuck she e"er had)
*his all started $ith 3& ass 2see other re!ort !osted
today). We decided one day to see an erotic mo"ie.
*here is a famous film in Ha!an called D*o!a4D 2it is
also a"ailable in the 7SA, its called D*okyo
6ecadenceD, and is artsie, but erotic 2ie. A real
film..$ith a story>!lot>cinimatogra!hy, but $ith
fucking.dont think they make this sort of thing in
holly$ood). *he story is about bubble era 2'C?1s,
Ha!an $as buying the $hole $orld..) decadence in
*okyo, and in !articular, about an S9 2sadoF
massochistic) call girl 2she is D9D.the sla"e) and her
life during that time !eriod.
3& ass and I choose this film. *here is a scene about
,1 minutes in the film, $here one of these rich
Ha!anese industrialist guys has the girl come to his
!enthouse a!!artment on the .1 _th floor of his
a!!artment in *okyo. 3e has her $ear a tFback and
stockings and a se+y to! and heels. 3e greases her
hair $ith gel, and then decides to humiliate the chick
by making her stand in the $indo$ of his a!!artment,
seeing all the traffic and !eo!le $alking far belo$.
She is embarrased, but he makes her do it. *hen he
tells her to dance, and slo$ly stri! off her clothes, and
tFback, like Dall of those horny office ladies at $ork
al$ays dying for a fuckD. She is bad at it, and he
makes her !ractice the stri!tease in the $indo$ o"er
and o"er, he massages her cunt, and tells her to
imagine ho$ she is such a horny fuck slut and that
she really $ants to get it.. he makes her do this in the
$indo$ until night falls. She is all in a s$eat at this
and is really e+cited.
After that, the guy brings u! his $ife, $ho is also into
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this scene. *he $ife 2an 3&), comes u!, and the guy
starts fucking the $ife in front of the sla"e chick, $ho
no$ is tied $ith a "ibrator in her cunt running. 3e
tells the sla"e chick that after the $indo$, she is
!robably dying for a fuck no$, but he $ont fuck her,
rather she has to $atch him fuck the $ife, and she has
to settle for the "ibrator. 3e makes the sla"e chick
bend o"er, and seducesh her ass against the $all, so the
"ibe goes in dee!er, $hile she is looking at the guy
fuck his $ife.. *he sla"e chick is in agony as she
$ants to be fucked so bad, and is being stimulated so
much by the $indo$ stri!, the "ibe, and seeing the
cou!le fuck, but she cant.
3& ass sa$ this scene, and it made her nuts. It $as
the most erotic thing she e"er sa$ she said. 2Actually,
this is an e+cellent film for this scene alone, it is
cinametogra!hically "ery $ell done, and not D!orn
filmD like in any $ay at all.absolutely highly
recommended if you $ant to see if a chick is into this
sort of thing.., and dont like trashy !orn ta!es. Also
check out DShitsuFrakuFen 2Lost Wonderland),
another film of the same ty!e.not !orn, but a real
mo"ie $ith lots of real se+.tastefully done that a
$oman $ould like it..also a"ailable in the 7S I think).
So I reali4ed, that 3& ass likes to be controlled, I
thought this $as interesting. I got her a "ibe, tied her
hands together, and started !laying $ith her $ith it,
turning it on, and then off =ust before she $ould come,
and then turning it back on again. I reali4ed, that by
doing this, I could control her mind, by controlling
her body, and denying and gi"ing her !leasure as I
$anted.. So then I decided to !lay a mind game $ith
this. 0n the !icture in /athan's old lounge, she is
$earing a really short s!ande+ mini. It is REALL
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short, and REALL tight. &ut at the time, 3& ass
$as a conser"ati"e librarian, she $ouldn't dare $ear
that in seduceblic.
So, $hile I $as doing the "ibe game $ith her, I $ould
sto! the "ibe, =ust before she came, and then tell her if
she $anted to come, she'd ha"e to $ear the su!er
mini to the disco some night. She $him!ered and
$hined Dno I cant..embarrassed..blah blahD, so I turn
on the "ibe, $ait till she is about to come, and then
sto! it, and ask again.then tell her ho$ she is
feeling so horny no$ 2she says DyesD), and ho$ she
really $ould like to come 2she says DyesD). I start the
"ibe again, $ait till she is =ust about to, and then sto!
it, and tell her again the reAuest 2to $ear the su!er
mini out one night). *his ha!!ens a fe$ more times,
and finally she agrees, and I make her say DI !romise
to $ear the su!er mini out one night $hen you
decideD. *hen I start the "ibe and tell her it $ill be
embarraseing. She says Dyes, it $ill beD. I ask her if
she $ill en=oy it, she says DyesD. I u! the "ibe, and let
her come. *hen I untie her and fuck her.
*hey call that in DS9D, a DsceneD 2kind of like a
mo"ie scene). I al$ays debrief a chick after a DsceneD
to see $hat she liked, and didn't like, because during
the scene, she is li"ing out her imagination, so you
cant listen really to $hat they say literally, you ha"e
to $atch real carefully, to make sure the chick is
actually en=oying the DsceneD and en=oying the
emotions and sensations she is feeling.. So I al$ays
debrief after.
3& ass said that she really en=oyed it. She liked not
being able to mo"e, she liked $earing only the *F
back, and ha"ing a"ibe in her, and the $ay I tortured
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her by !re"enting her from coming. She said the
decision to $ear the skirt $as really hard, and agony,
and that someho$ also made it !leasureable in an
e+tremely intense $ay. Someho$ it $as much better
than =ust being fucked by a regular guy she said,
because she felt agony, being controlled, and
!o$erless, and humilated 2by thinking of ha"ing to
$ear the skirt, and ha"ing to tell me ho$ she is such a
horny bitch and she really $ants to fuck and be
embarrassed to $ear the skirt), like her mind $as
being fucked and not =ust her body.
*hat $as my first real S9 e+!erience.. I liked it too,
the $ay I could control her like that, absolutely, and
make her agree to something that had I =ust asked her
at the dinner table during su!!er 2about the skirt), I
$ould ha"e =ust gotten a Dno, are you out of your
mindG, and then maybe an argument). .
Any$ays, the $eekend came, and it $as time for 3&
ass to fulfill her !romise and $ear the su!er mini
out. :7%E it $as short. 3er but cheeks almost hung
out of itG &ut man $as she s$eet in it. E;ER0/E
looked at her in the street 2I made her $ear o!en
crotch fishnet, and a black tFback, and black high
heels and a tight black to!). :ortunately, all the
highschool kids dress the same $ay =ust for fun, so I
$asnt $orried about her getting in trouble or
anything. She felt embarrassed, some ho$ humiliated.
It $as a fun e"ening, and dancing, and al$ays she
$as "ery self conscious !eo!le trying to look u! her
ass as she $ent u! the stairs and stuff.
&7*,.she L0;E6 I*G She said it made her feel
really erotic, and really like a $oman. &ut had I not
made her do it 2the $ay I made her do it, $ith the
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"ibe), she ne"er $ould ha"e agreed, and it $ouldn't
ha"e been fun the $ay it $as fun like that. Again, she
said it $as the feeling in her mind of being controlled,
and !o$erless, that made it so e+citing. Se+ that night
$as really good.
I did this se"eral times 2using "ibe torture to make her
agree to things). *here is a "ery large fetish ball that
ha!!ens in *okyo e"ery month,, she $anted to go, so
I made her $ear a costume to it that $as "ery
re"ealing. 2I $ill try to seducet it on /athan's !age), se+y,
but someho$ elegant. Again, she felt controlled, and
se+y, and like an ob=ect.$hich she said she really
liked.
:inally, another time, I made her do the scene in the
mo"ie, in a hotel room in one of the *okyo hotel
to$ers., the stri!tease in the $indo$. She $as
reluctant to go in the $indo$, but then I did more
D"ibe tortureD, and as she $ent each ste! of the $ay, I
ran the "ibe a little more, making her take off more
and more in the $indo$, standing on a table, $ith
*okyo belo$. She got really hot and e+cited, saying it
$as humilating, but she felt totally controlled, used,
and someho$, that $as so !leasureable, that !eo!le
might see her, and that she had no choice, as she
$anted to come so badly, $ith the "ibe running in
her, and that $as such a $onderful e+!erience.
Later I made her do other stuff, like troll around the
city in the su!er mini $ith no !anties 2no$ that is
risky), and that really scared her, but also she really
got off on it after the fact.and she $anted to do it
again..
/o$ she is into s$ing !arties and getting fucked by a
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bunch of guys at once 2and I didn't e"en ha"e to ask
her that.it $as 3ER idea). and she $as =ust a
conser"ati"e librarian looking chick $hen I met her.
I found out from this $hole e+!erience, that 2some)
$omen really like to be controlled in their mind, and
their bodies, and $ant to gi"e it all to you.if you can
use all that, and make her feel cra4y in her mind, she
$ill do almost anything you ask.. And she says I am
the best &: she e"er had, because only I kno$ ho$ to
really control her, and get into her mind in e"ery
$ay.. Strange.
F9s. Einky. ho$ I found out she likes !ain, and
ho$ I use that to gi"e her the best fuck she e"er had..
With 3& ass, $hen I humilated her, or ga"e her "ibe
torture, she $ent into e+tasy. I tried to s!ank her
once, but no reaction at all. *hat doesn't dri"e 3&
ass.
9s Einky it turns out, is the o!!osite. She is a "ery
bright, !retty girl. See the lay re!ort on my sight for
ho$ I found out the "ery first night she $as kinky
2basically, I fucked her $hile holding her hands do$n
o"er her head, and she faked a struggle, and $ent into
total e+tasy.
%oming off the 3& ass e+!erience, I tried the "ibe
torture thing $ith her to see the results.. there $ere no
results. she didn't react at all to it. *hen I lightly
!inned her hands u! against the $all, and s!anked
her bottom, and she totally $ent into state. It $as like
night and day, but it $as ob"ious $hat turned her on,
2and not). I reali4ed each chick is different. 3& ass
likes humiliation and agony, but 9s. Einky likes
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!hysical abuse. She likes to be s!anked, get her
breasts and ni!!les sla!!ed, grabbed, and !inched,
hot $a+, being $hi!!ed.all of it.
She is funny too, because her limits are "ery definate.
Inside the limits, she $ill go all the $ay and totally
nuts, but if you cross o"er to something she may not
like, she $ill totally and instantly lose state. ou ha"e
to $atch it carefully. As an e+am!le, the first night I
fucked her, I raised her skirt $hile $alking at night,
she liked the humilation.. but then I $anted to go to
the !ark at night and !lay in the $oods, and she
totally freaked out in the $rong $ay, and lost state. It
$as because she $as afraid of her safety 2actually, it is
safe..but she didn't feel safe in her o$n $ay). So I had
to $atch out for that. She totally lost state if she
$asn't comfortable $ith the en"ironment she $as
D!layingD in. &ut if the en"ironment is DokD for her,
she $ill mo"e much fast than 3& ass does in the
games.
:or e+am!le, I also took her to that fetish !arty, the
first time, and I ordered her to =ust take off her
2librarian) skirt she $ore from the office and s!end
the rest of the e"ening in her tback only. She did so
immediately $ith no resistance. &asically, she decided
she felt safe in the en"ironment, so she ga"e her body
to me totally to do $hate"er I $anted $ith and she
$ould =ust do it and take $hate"er humilation or
feeling 2!hysical or !syhological) that the scene ga"e
her, because I $as the boss, and she $as my slut, and
she had no choice in the matter. *hat $as her game,
and that $as the $ay she liked it !layed. I had
absolute control, so I used it because I kne$, that dee!
do$n, that is $hat S3E $anted me to do.
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If I $as an A:%, I $ouldnt ha"e recogni4ed that she
$as gi"ing herself to me to do $hat I $ant $ith her,
and I $ould ha"e asked her to do something. *hat
$ould ha"e totally ruined her game, as no$ she had a
%30I%E, and $as not able to !lay being DcontrolledD.
8robably if I $as like that, she $ould ha"e dum!ed
me after the first fuck.
Actually, I reali4e no$, 2see the original lay re!ort),
that all that resistance and &S she ga"e the first night,
$as =ust to see if I $ould control her, since that is
$hat she really $anted, and that is $hat she $as
testing for. If $hen she said she doesnt $ant to fuck
the first night, I said D0ED and sent her home, I
$ould ha"e ne"er seen her again.. &ut I stayed on her,
and got her.ie. She $as DtakenD, and could !lay her
game of being DusedD, and DcontrolledD, so I $as DinD,
and then our relationshi! began.
I also did the hotel $indo$ thing $ith her. She got
into it right a$ay, and liked the humilation as!ect of
it. I made her do it in the day, $hich I didn't make
3& ass do. At first she didnt $ant to 2fake resistance,
fear), but it $as $eird, I seducet clothes!ins on her
ni!!les, and $hi!!ed her ass a bit, and then she
=um!ed right in the $indo$, and did the se+iest stri!
tease I e"er sa$. She $as !anting and s$eating, and
6I/@ for a fuck right there to $hoe"er might ha"e
gi"ing it to her. She felt 2!hysically) safe, and $ent
*0*ALL into itG She started saying all by herself,
DI am your sla"e, you control me com!letely, for
$hate"er you $ant, I am yours to useD.. I $as actually
sur!rised $hen I heard this.but I sa$ her mind $as
no$ totally into the $orld I took her into. $hile she
$as standing in that $indo$ nude, the !ins on her
ni!!les eating at her, and her ass getting sla!!ed.for
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her.it $as hea"en..
She told me after that no guy e"er did this $ith her,
and could enter he$ mind like I did..same as 3&
ass, different !hysical gate$ays to the inside,..but the
same result. And she said, that is $hy she sees me,
e"en though I see other $omen.. she is also a trulely
$ild fuck $hen she gets going.
F3& Afro.the e+hibitionist
I ha"ent been seeing 3& afro as long as the others
2see lay re!ort on my site). She is a dancer, and is
"ery hot and se+y. 6ancers are often e+hibitionist and
she $as no e+ce!tion. I Auickly found out this $as
her thing 2$as easy. hey you like that really short
skirt.. 3er : ESG, I $ant to $ear itG).
She is a tough case, because, in some $ays, her limits
are beyond my o$n. She $ill $ear a su!er tight skirt,
and let it rise u! so her ass hangs out. I got a
!roblem $ith that 2I =ust $ant the girl to be afraid her
butt $ill hang out, and then be embarressed and seducell
the skirt do$n). 3& Afro $ont do that, she $ants
e"eryone to see her ass. /ot minding that you can get
in trouble for this, I had to find other $ays to get her
off, $ithout causing 2me) any trouble. At least though
I kne$ $hat she liked.
I tried "ibe torture 2no reaction), and s!anking 2no
reaction)..e+hibitionism is definitely her thing..
So, I decided to !ay the ultimate e+hibitionism game
$ith her. I remember in highschool, once, $e
!layed a =oke on a kid. We got into his locker, and
took all his books and seducet them in another locker.
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*hen in his o$n locker, $e seducet a note, $ith a riddle,
and a guide to get to another 2em!ty) locker in the
school. In that locker, there $as another note>riddle,
and a guide to the ne+t locker after that.after about
'1 lockers and '1 riddles, the last locker had the
guide to the locker $here his books really $ere..
So I decided to make an adult "ersion of this same
game, and make this chick !lay it in Shin=uku station
2a "ery "ery large com!le+ train station in central
*okyo). I got some "arious "ery se+y costumes 2but
still $earable in seduceblic !laces), and set u! a Driddle
ma4eD $ith the coinFo!erated lockers in the train
station.
I ga"e her a !ortable !hone, and told her to call my
!ortable if she got lost, I ga"e her the first locker key,
and the first riddle card, and a digital camera 2to take
!ictures of herself to !ro"e to me she $as doing each
ste! of the game and $earing each item at each !lace
as the notes said). She also had to call me at each ste!
so I could $ander by, and see ho$ she looked 2she
had to ignore me though..!art of the rules).
*he first ste!, she had to $ear a su!er mini. She did,
and she $alked around the station letting the bottom
half of her ass hang out 2after I told her to $atch it
didn't start to go u!)..but she liked it that $ay, so
thats $hat she did. *he ne+t locker, the note said she
had to get somebody in the station to sign her leg $ith
a marker u! near her ass 2embarrassment). *hen she
had to go to the ne+t locker at the other end of the
station $earing that, and change into the ne+t
costume at the locker 2sli! one o"er the other and take
off the under, $ithout sho$ing anything). *he ne+t
$as a !artially see through mini dress..boy $as it
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se+y. ou could =ust see the outline of the tback
through it. ;ery se+y on her 2she is a tiny -?kg chick
3&). *hen the ne+t locker, another su!er mini, and
this time no !anties 2she had to lea"e the !anties in
the locker, and I $ould come by later $ith the key and
make sure they $ere there), and then she had to ha"e
somebody sign the other leg u! near her ass
2embarssing, su!er mini..no !anties).and on ne+t
locker, till she finished the game.
3er thoughts at the end. She L0;E6 I*G She said
her fa"orite !art $as getting her legs =ust belo$ her
ass signed by strangers in the station 2she said it $as a
college initiation game she $as !laying..to them), as
it $as so scary and humilating, and e+citing. *his $as
the $ay into this $omen mind.
After that, I took her to a lo"eFhotel 2funky hotels in
Ha!an intended =ust for fucking, $ith bladerunnerF
deco room>building designed and neon.."ery cool).
We $ere on the , _nd floor in lo"e hotel district in
Shin=uku, and I made her stri! naked in the $indo$
2lights out). *he side$alk $as right belo$, her heart
$ent !itter !atter !itter !atter as if anyone $alked by,
they W07L6 see her, so it $as risky for her.. She
lo"ed it though, and said she $as so scared, but so
e+citedG, and she $ent all the $ay, and then after that,
it $as a$esome fucking all night.
Another night $ith 3& afro, $e $ent to a big !ark at
night in central *okyo. *here are homeless !eo!le all
o"er in the $oods, but they are harmless 2this is
Ha!an). S0 $e $ent into the $oods, and I made her
stri! do$n to her tFback. shado$s in the distance
$ould look at her, and she $as embarressed, she
kne$ she $as being looked at. I made her stri! do$n
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to her tFback, and fondled her, and made her cra4y.
*hen I took her around in the $oods =ust $ith her *F
back, and then stri! all the $ay. *hen I told her to go
to a !lace nearby 2like atree) and then comeback.
*here $ere collegeguys skateboarding in another !art
of the !ark, $e sa$, and I had her $alk tor$ard them
in the trees to!less, and her skirt u!. She $as afraid,
and said she couldn't do it, but I made her. Each time
she sto!!ed too early, I told her then she had to go
e"en closer no$, because she didnt follo$ me
instructions the first time. S0 she did.
After that, she told me ho$ it $as so e+citing, and
embarrassing if someone turned around, and $ould
ha"e seen her.but it made her so hornyG *hen $e
$alked home after she got her to! back, and seducelled
her skirt do$n.
:or fun, I took her !anties a$ay though, and made
her $alk home in the micro mini 2the one that she
hung her asscheeks out in in the train station), in the
dark. I made her bend o"er 2for the "ie$), and it
$ould raise her skirt $ay u!, and told her, she had to
get to the ne+t block before she could seducell it do$n. All
the hair $as hanging out front and back. Sometimes,
she got too embarressed, and seducelled it do$n before
she got there, so I =ust made her do it again at the ne+t
block after that, until she $ould follo$ my
instructions e+actly.
When $e got home, and fucked intensly, I debriefed
the scene $ith her, and asker her ho$ she felt during
it all. She said the times she felt really embarressed
and didn't follo$ my instructions 2ie. Seducelled the skirt
do$n too early, or sto!!ed going closer to the
skateboaders), but I made her do it again e"en more
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as DseducenishmentD, $ere her fa"orite !arts. She said she
liked getting in DtroubleD, and then ha"ing to face the
DconseAuencesD of something e"en more
embarrasing>$orse..
F%onclusion.
I am curious, ho$ much of this a!!lies to foreign
$omen( *he reason I ask, is because I kno$ that
humiliation, seduceblic embarrassment and control run
dee! do$n in the fiber of the Ha!anese consciousness.
0n late night *; in fact, such games are often sho$n
2thats $here I got some of the ideas actually). :u=iF*;
has an S9 sho$ at 'am each $eek, and there are
many game sho$s $here $omen that lose ha"e to
stri! off a !iece of clothes each time they lose the
round, or something like that. Stri! rockFscissorsF
!a!er is a common game too, on *; 2broadcast
net$orks &*W, not cable), and on school
!laygrounds, in cartoon maga4ines..etc. Its $eird,
because, here, all of this is totally mainstream, in
maga4ines 2DLets S9 guideGD), on *;, and in
commercials.. 9aybe thats $hy it $orks that $ay
here.not sure..
So, there you go.o!inions guys.ladies((
What is your o!inion on the !henomena I ha"e run
into $ith these $omen.. and $hat makes them
like such treatment, the total mindVbody fuck(
9aniac 3igh
Example of an excellent online seduction -- David Shade
I much !refer to sarge in !erson, but $hen I am stuck at home, like
$hen my sons are $ith me and they ha"e gone to bed, I get online.
Since I ha"e finished Ross' &3S%, my online sarging skills ha"e
sky rocketed. I decide to try my ne$ skills on a real challenge F
married $omen. So, I get onto A0L and go into the married room.
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I meet this chick from another state. She $as originaly from here
and has relati"es here. We start $ith small talk and e+change !ics
2"ery attracti"e). She said that her marriage $as "ery good and
alluded to the fact that she $ould ne"er consider ha"ing an affair.
3er idea of commiting adultery is sim!ly sharing dee! secrets $ith
another man. She only gets online to kee! in touch $ith !eo!le.
We build ra!!ort and she begins to o!en u!...
9ary: I called my husband 2he has been a$ay for a $eek on
business) and he $as so !.o.'d. *hat didn't hel! much
6a"id: oh that $as not nice of him. that is not at all a su!!orti"e
thing to say. /o$ is the time $hen you need someone to su!!ort
your emotions.
9ary: i kno$. $e had some $ords and he sa$ it from my !oint
6a"id: Well good that you made him see it from your !oint of
"ie$.
9ary: it's not like i did a thing to ha"e this ha!!en.
9ary: I $as Auite u!set $hen I got his reaction $hen I $as
looking for some consoling and really tore into him
6a"id: 3o$ do you feel to be talking $ith me to allo$ yourself to
"ent as I see it from your !oint of "ie$
9ary: good. thanks.
6a"id: good. I like to see you feel good. And it makes me feel
good
9ary: So, you are di"orced( 3o$ long if I may !ry a little(
6a"id: yes, I am for B years no$.
9ary: 3o$ long $ere you married(
6a"id: ? years. but after < years of marriage, I reali4ed I $anted
something more.
9ary: ', here. 9arried !retty young
6a"id: I did not kno$ at first $hat it $as, but I kne$ that I $as
not fullfiled.
9ary: We ha"e had our share or rocky roads but they al$ays
seem to smooth out.
6a"id: you might ask $hy I am in the married room
9ary: do i dare ask( you ha"e a fettish for married $omen( Lol
6a"id: you might say :F) lol =ust kidding
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9ary: lol or are you learning $hat $e all $ant((GGG
6a"id: 6o !eo!le really kno$ $hat they $ant(
9ary: ;ery fe$G "ery "ery fe$G
6a"id: I ha"e been a"oiding single $omen. E"entually they $ant
to become "ery serious and talk about marriage. I =ust am not
ready for marriage yet.
9ary: I only get on here to get an occasional laugh and see $hat
e"eryone is talking about
9ary: If I $ere to do it all o"er again, i don't kno$ if I $ould get
married. 6on't get me $rong I am ha!!y, but I think e"eryone
$onders from time to time
6a"id: *he thing I like about married $omen is they $ant to
celebrate being a $oman
9ary: of course $e doGG
6a"id: and they are "ery sensual
9ary: yea, sensual because of something they are lacking
6a"id: and they are tremendous lo"ers because they kno$ ho$
$onderful intimacy should be
9ary: i $ouldn't kno$ about that oneG lol
6a"id: and they $ant to sa"or all of it
9ary: true, its in their minds
6a"id: yes, it is really all in the mind
9ary: i think most $oman fantisi4e about the moment rather than
the actual e"ent unlike most men.
2hmmm... I think I heard a good idea for a !attern thereG)
9ary: most men $ant it $ith t$o $omen or this $ay or that $ay
etc.
etc. etc. most men are not ca!able of understanding a $oman's
needs
6a"id: yes, that is "ery true. &ut for more mature men $ho
understand that true meaning of intimacy they kno$ that it is the
=ourney, not the destination, that is to be sa"ored.
9ary: so, you are teaching a class to all these nonFintimate men
in the $orld right(
6a"id: lol 6o you !refer a mature man $ho kno$s ho$ to treat a
$oman like a lady and can truly a!!reciate a $oman(
,B1
9ary: 9y husband and I talk all the time and he doesn't
understand that i don't ha"e an actual se+ual fantasy
9ary: i can't seem to get it through to him that it is a feeling not a
!osition that a $oman yearns for
9ary: I tried to e+!lain at one time, that he couldn't satisfy me
anymore !hysically as a lo"er than he already does but if he could
learn ho$ to unleash the fire in me than he $ould ha"e an
incredibly different "ie$ of things
9ary: that there is a big difference bet$een incredible se+ and
$hat I $as trying to e+!lain to him
6a"id: yes, that feeling of incredible connection
9ary: he asked me to e+!lain that to him, and of course i
couldn't. I don't think it is something that you can really truly
e+!lain
6a"id: that is correct. It is something that you feel, something
that you kno$
9ary: unless you desire it as $ell, and he is content $ith $hat he
getsG lol
6a"id: some men are =ust ha!!y $ith =ust that. se+. and for them
that is enough. &ut for others, there is a higher !lane of sharing
9ary: ye! it is at the emotional le"el as you e+!lained
6a"id: an incredible connection at all le"els of intimacy F
emotional, intellectual, !hysical, and s!iritual
9ary: e+actly, so $ell !ut, but so misunderstood by many
23ere I do the I% !attern. &ased on her res!onse I say...)
6a"id: ou are a !erson $ho is "ery concerned about the good
feelings of other !eo!le
9ary: yes, I ha"e al$ays been that sort of !erson. 8ut others
before myself
6a"id: *hat tells me that you are a !erson $ho is ca!able of a
dee! incredible connection and communication
9ary: so you do fortune telling on the side too( lol IF)
6a"id: lol I $ould like to think that I am a good =udge of
character
9ary: so far you are doing !retty good
6a"id: *o me it is =ust sharing. It feels good to share like this.
,B'
9ary: yes, it does.
6a"id: yes, it does. I lo"e the $ay it feels to share like this
9ary: So, you share a lot on here(
6a"id: When I meet someone I feel comfortable $ith, I $ill en=oy
the sharing if it takes !lace
9ary: it is nice ha"ing someone to share your feelings $ith
6a"id: yes, it is nice to ha"e someone to share your feelings $ith.
*o see it from your !oint of "ie$. *o take the time to understand.
It feels "ery good
6a"id: *here is nothing finer than feeling as close to someone as
can absolutely be
6a"id: there is nothing more re$arding than $hen a $oman can
share $ith a man and teach him ho$ to really feel, and there is
nothing more mo"ing for a man to ha"e been made to feel so "ery
"ulnerable
9ary: So, $hat made you come u! $ith that screen name(
6a"id: I think that is $hat it is all about. *o be so close as to
touch each other's soul
9ary: ok, so i really messed that translation u!
6a"id: $anna hear a !oem I $rote(
9ary: sure, i $ould
6a"id: I like to $rite !oetry. Will you gi"e me your honest
o!inion(
9ary: you kno$ i can really be a ruthless bitch, you may not
$ant an
honest o!inionG lol
9ary: =ust kidding, of course i $ill be honest
6a"id: I kno$ you $ill be :F)
9ary: =ust gi"e me a minute to absorb the !oem for my o!inion
6a"id: ok, I $ill
6a"id: D*he *earD
2I recite *he *ear)
9ary: *hats really good, seriously. Sim!le, but to the !ointG
6a"id: I am glad you thought it $as good.
9ary: better than good.
6a"id: *hat is a "ery nice thing to say :F)
,B,
9ary: TTTT6a"idUUUU
6a"id: *hat hug feels so good 9ary :F)
9ary: that is one of those hugging sort of !ick me u! off the
!a"ement sort of !oemsG a great one for my day, thanks for
sharing it $ith me
6a"id: I lo"e to hug. It is such a $onderful $ay to share. *o feel
each others embrace.
9ary: you $ould ha"e died on my li!s all day longG lol
6a"id: It makes me feel so good to make you feel so good.
9ary: my eyes are still all s$ollenG I need a glass of $ine, and a
=acu44iG
6a"id: yes, that $ould be nice. $ith candles and fragrances
9ary: 0f course, $ouldn't be right $ithout thoseG
6a"id: and slo$ soft music
9ary: *hose are the things that i a!!reciate more. *he effort !ut
into the moment
6a"id: and feeling like $e are the only !eo!le in the $orld right
no$
9ary: to really absorb the atmos!here that is being shared
6a"id: to really sa"or the sharing
9ary: or being s$e!t a$ay to a beach and listening to the sounds
of
the ocean $hich i find e+tremely stimulating. smelling the salty air,
feeling the $arm bree4e
6a"id: as the $a"es break mathodically on the sand, o"er and
o"er and o"er
9ary: ye!
6a"id: and feeling the soft sand under you.
9ary: I could stay there fore"er.
6a"id: and let the $orld stand still
9ary: 3ey, here's something funny. sorry to break this u!
6a"id: yes(
9ary: first i $ill say that i 60 lo"e my husband but his
translation of $hat $e =ust described, is, *he $ater is cold, the
sand is gritty, the air smells like dead fish etc. the $a"es are
,B-
crashing on the beach. And you bring all that damn sand home
$ith youGG lol 3o$ can t$o !eo!le "ie$ something so differently
6a"id: lol
9ary: As far as the =acu44i( ou can't do it in a =acu44i, it =ust
doesn't feel right, I don't like $ine, and unless it's country music I
don't $ant to hear it, and candle or no candle it doesn't matter and
it smells like clorineG
6a"id: lol
9ary: I ha!!en to like all music
9ary: and one night after he $as gone for a long tri! i $ent
through the e+treme of setting the night
9ary: I bought a %6 $hich I absolutely lo"ed, and bought $ine
for myself, lit all the candles, laid out a "ery soft blanket on the
floor, had on a really nice neglige' and he came in the door and
said
DAllrightG boy did i miss youGGD
9ary: the $hole ordeal $as o"er $ith Auicker than i set the $hole
thing u!GG
9ary: can you belie"e that(
6a"id: I am sorry to hear ho$ selfish he $as. After all this kind
of attitude from his !art, I $ould imagine that lo"e making $ould
become old and stale and be reduced to =ust se+. It is sad.
9ary: not al$ays, $e are trying to $ork on that. but some things
I think he $ill ne"er understand and that !art does get Auite
frustrating
9ary: I'm one of those emotional gals myself.
6a"id: ou need to feel that sense of sharing and that sense of
incredible intimate connection
9ary: sorry about my little detour IF)
6a"id: 9ary, I am so glad you feel free to share $ith me all those
things that you are feeling
6a"id: I adore that. It is so !recious to me that $e can share this
$ay.
9ary: I am $orking on that. I told him I $anted a get a$ay in
the mountains at a ski resort. I basically s!elled out all the details
for him and told him if he did it, he $ouldn't regret it for a moment
,B.
9ary: thanks, da"id
9ary: and i am sorry for being so scattered.
6a"id: no. I am ha!!y you are so sharing $ith me
9ary: i am ha!!y you ha"e been so gracious to listen
6a"id: /o$ that makes me feel so "ery good 9ary.
9ary: @ood 6a"id.
6a"id: ou do make me feel so good $hen $e talk 9ary.
9ary: ou are easy to e+!ress myself to
6a"id: I ha"e heard that you kno$ it is right $hen you feel you
can truely be yourself
9ary: !robably true
2At this !oint she o!ens a !ri"ate chat room for us. She said DI am
tired of using the mouse.D hehe. 9ost of the !ri"ate chat room
te+t scrooled out. I did more !oetry, including the last , !oems
from my !ost DLet her $rite your !oetry.D I did the 6isco"ery
%hannel 8attern.
I did the &lammo !attern. *hen I $ent into 9a=or 9ark's
Dcom!artmentsD
stuff from Ross' course. Absolutely LE*3AL $hen used on a
married $oman. *hen...)
9ary: if t$o !eo!le feel the $ay that you describe and the $ay
that I fantasi4e, they $ould ha"e to feel committed. I think you
$ould be committed because those feelings truly felt are of true
lo"e, something "ery fe$ !eo!le e"er e+!erience
6a"id: true, and it is sad if anyone goes through life and ne"er
e+!eriences them and ne"er fully feels them
9ary: so to e+!erience that $ould be im!ossible because you
$ould be committed the day you e+!erienced that. am i $rong(
6a"id: no, you are not $rong
9ary: your souls $ould be committed to each other
6a"id: yes
9ary: you can not truly feel $hat you described $ithout affecting
the soul
6a"id: that is so true
9ary: so it $ould be a committment the first time you actually
e+!erienced it
,B5
6a"id: then $hat you say is true, but can it be done $ithout
affecting all the other things in a !ersons life( I $ould not $ant to
change anything in a !ersons life.
9ary: i dont honestly think it could be done
23ere is $here she finally betrays her husband)
9ary: unless of course you are describing sharing $hat t$o
!eo!le desire but not crossing that line in !utting those t$o !eo!le
together, does that e"en make sense(
6a"id: yes. I $ould not $ant to cross that line
9ary: i am beginning to confuse the heck out of myselfG lol IF)
6a"id: I agree that two people could share while agreeing to
not cross
that line
9ary: there is a fine line there though, "ery fine
6a"id: yes, and $e $ould take great care not to cross it
6a"id: $ill you !romise to not cross that line $ith me(
9ary: I !romise da"id I $on't cross that line
6a"id: kno$ing that, $e can share that s!ecial !lace for =ust you
and me. $e can e+!ereince all that is there to be e+!erienced. Hust
you and me. =ust that !lace
9ary: ok
6a"id: ok
6a"id: it $ill be our secret, to be ke!t com!letely to us, only us
9ary: ok
6a"id: ok
6a"id: 9ary
9ary: 6a"id
6a"id: I $ant to gi"e you something to think about
9ary: ok
6a"id: I $ant you to first go into that s!ecial !lace that is =ust for
you and me...
9ary: ok
2Locket !attern here)
6a"id: and no$ I kiss you good night and slo$ly $alk a$ay, to
return $hen $e meet again
9ary: my mind is at rest
,B<
9ary: 6a"id as far as $hat is unfaithful and unfair to my
husband, do you understand that( Is this $rong of me 6a"id(
6a"id: I understand 9ary. I $ill allo$ you to think about that all
you $ant. I kno$ you ha"e much to think about
9ary: ou are truly incredible 6a"id.
6a"id: *hat makes me feel so "ery good 9ary. @ood night
s$eetheart.
9ary: @ood. no$ good nite darlin' and s$eat I mean s$eet
dreams to youG
9ary: or the first, $hiche"er you !referG lol IF)
6a"id: I'll =ust lea"e that u! to your imagination :F)
9ary: that's !retty dangerous $ith my little mood s$ings tonightG
lol
6a"id: lol
9ary: you don't $ant to ha"e nitemares do you
9ary: of endless tortures of !assion G lol
9ary: that $ould =ust be terrible no$ $ouldn't it
9ary: IF), al$ays a smart ass, I amG
6a"id: :F)
6a"id: 9ary
9ary: darlin''(
6a"id: When you go to bed tonight, go into that s!ecial !lace in
your mind
9ary: ok gotcha
6a"id: and..... rela+
9ary: and...... rela+
9ary: a "ery $arm sensual !lace
6a"id: 2222 9ary )))) nite
9ary: TTTTT6a"idUUUUU nite.
0ur second chat is "ery s$eet and romantic. Lots of !layfullness.
She talks "ery breifly about her husband's return. I do not get into
that at all. She and I are to share only that s!ecial !lace in her
mind.
0ur third chat is "ery steamy. She has us back on the beach. She
describes in detail $hat it $ould be like. *hen she $ants me to
,BB
describe in detail the back rub that I $ould gi"e her using $arm
oils.
*hen she $ants me to continue...
9ary: you kno$ $hat I'm talking about
6a"id: Wait. Are you talking about cyber(
9ary: Are you a cyber "irgin( lol
6a"id: What are you saying(
9ary: 6a"id, I ha"e ne"er done this before. I $ant to do this.
8lease do this.
6a"id: 9ary, I $ill not allo$ $hat $e ha"e to be reduced to
D%yberD
9ary: 8lease =ust describe that back rub you $ere gi"ing me.
Such that the oil allo$s your hands to glide so smoothly o"er my
skin. ou cannot en=oy this unless you can hear my !assion in it.
I tell her no. She begs me. I tell her no. She gets mad at me. I tell
her again $hy not. She returns to romance and all is $ell again.
I tell her to go to bed and Dthink about me.D
0ur fourth chat is filled $ith D0h baby I miss you so muchD and
D0h darling I need you so badlyD etc. hehe. I lo"e it. I did the
right thing in follo$ing Ross' ad"ice to not let her ha"e any unless
it is in !erson. /o more cyber, no more !hone. @otta be real. I
am going to try to get this chick to "isit her relati"es here. We'll
see.
*here $ere three other married $omen this $eekend. 0ne of
them $as local and $ants to meet. I'll !ost them.
"The Kiss": An excellent seduction by David Shade!
9y fello$ asf ng buddies. E"er since finishing Ross' basic home
study course, I ha"e been ha"ing a lot more fun in the night clubs.
I ha"e found that SS $orks =ust as $ell there as it does e"ery$here
else.
I first meet Su4anne about t$o months ago................
0n a :riday night my t$o sons and I make the t$o hour dri"e to
s!end an o"ernight at my !arents house. As my !arents dote o"er
their t$o grandchildren, I e+cuse myself to go check out the night
life do$n to$n $here I used to !arty years ago.
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After checking out a number of !laces, I e"entually make my $ay
to this one large cro$ded loud night club. &y no$ it is about
',:-1 A9. 9y attention is grabbed by a blonde and a brunette
standing at the bar.
I a!!roach the brunette and say DE+cuse me, I kno$ you are
ha"ing a beer $ith your friend, but can I ask you something(D She
looks at me but says nothing. I say D6o you kno$ the best !lace to
go( I ha"e not !artied in this to$n for some time.D She stares
coldly for a moment and then says D3ere.D I say D*hank you. I
used to come here $hen it $as called PPP.D She says D0h. 6o you
remember $hen PPP used to !lay here(D I say D/o, but do you
remember $hen PPP used to !lay here(D
*hen the blonde motions to the brunette as if to ask $hat is going
on.
*he brunette tells the blonde D3e is asking $here the best !lace to
go is.D I say to the blonde Des, I used to li"e here some time ago
and I $as $ondering $hat is the best !lace to go.D She says
DWhere do you li"e no$(D I say D*he 6etroit area.D She says
D0h, $hat do you do there(D I say DI am an engineer, but I am
only analytical during the day.D She laughs heartily at this one. I
continue $ith DAfter $ork I rela+ and en=oy being a human, and
being creati"e.D She says DWhat is your name(D I e+tend my hand
and say D9y name's 6a"id.D She shakes my hand and says D9y
name's Su4anne.D
*hese t$o $omen a!!ear to be sober and alert. Su4anne has a
much better attitude.
Su4anne then asks me DSo, do you !aint(D I say D/o, I $rite
!oetry.D
She says DReally(D I say Des, and if I $ere to recite one of my
!oems to you, $ould you gi"e me your honest o!inion(D She
motions to her friend and says D3e is going to tell us a !oem.D I
$ant to direct my !oem only to Su4anne. I look at Su4anne as I
start /ick :ortune's D*$o Eyes.D She finds that she has to !ut her
ear near my mouth to hear.
When I am done, she says D*hat $as beautifulG Are you a "ery
s!iritual !erson(D I say Des I am. Would you consider yourself
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to be a "ery s!iritual !erson(D She says D0h yes. ou kno$, I
used to date a guy $ho li"ed in the 6etroit area, so I kno$ the area
!retty $ell. Where do you li"e(D I say DI li"e in PPP.D She says
D0h I kno$ $here that is.
I used to go to PPP and PPP night club $hen I dated him. 2t$o
gothic clubs) I am not into gothic clothing or any of that stuff, but I
liked ho$ it $as so different. ou could feel free to be $ho you
$anted to be. 3e $as different too.D I asked her ho$ he $as
different and she said he $as e+citing, but, the relationshi! broke
u! due to DissuesD he had. She felt as if he $as al$ays com!aring
her to his e+ girl friend
and that she did not really feel that she $as the most Ds!ecial
!ersonD to him. She said it did not make her feel DbeautifulD or
Dse+y.D I look her directly in the eyes and mo"e my face slightly
closer to hers and say Dou $ant to be $ith 2s!) a man $ho makes
07 :EEL &EA7*I:7L and makes 07 :EEL SEQ and
makes 07 :EEL LIEE *3E 90S* S8E%IAL 8ERS0/.D
She says D0h yes. I don't kno$ $hy I am telling you all this.D She
does not $ait for a res!onse, but instead continues talking.
She s!eaks about ho$ he $as too DdarkD and de!ressing. I motion
a$ay and say D6ark is too de!ressing.D She says Des, I look at
life differently. I look at the glass as being half full.D I say D*hat
is a "ery o!timistic $ay to look at things. 2s!)D She corrects me
$ith DIt is a !ositi"e $ay to look at things. I am a "ery !ositi"e
!erson.D I motion a$ay and say Dou don't $ant to be $ith a
de!ressing !erson, instead, you $ant to be $ith 2s!) a different
e+citing man $ho has a !ositi"e outlook on life.D
*he brunette ne"er interru!ted us and Su4anne had totally
forgotten about her. *he brunette goes around to behind Su4anne
and introduces herself to some guy standing there, and then she
checks to see if I am seeing this.
Su4anne and I ha"e established good ra!!ort, so I go into the I%
!attern. She says D0h noG *hat has ne"er ha!!ened to meGD I say
D*hat has ne"er ha!!ened to you(D She says DI am too !rotecti"e.D
I say DWhat do you mean(D She says DI !ut u! a $all to !rotect my
"ulnerability. I ha"e been hurt too many times.D
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*hen she looks me directly in the eyes and mo"es her face a little
closer and says DI could tell you $ere an older man.D I say D*hank
you.
3o$ could you tell I am a more mature man(D She says D&ecause
you look at me right in the eyes. oung men cannot look at me
right in the eyes.D I mo"e closer to her face and look intensely into
her eyes and say DI think the eyes are the $indo$s to the s!irit.D
She says D0h, so true, the s!irit is $hat $e truly are. 0ur bodies
are =ust the gift that @od ga"e us. A tool.D
In my dee!est, most sensual "oice, I say Des, so true. In order to
really get to kno$ 2s!) someone, you must look dee! into their
s!irit.
0nly $hen 07 *R7L E/0W *3IS 8ERS0/ 2s!) can you
use this tool of e+!ression, and S3ARE *3E @I:* 0: 07R
&06IES so dee!ly 2motion back andforth.) When 07 REALL
E/0W *3IS 8ERS0/ 2s!) 07 :EEL :REE to %ELE&RA*E
*3IS @I:* that brings our s!irits so much closer together.D
She slo$ly mo"es the ti! of her nose to almost touch the ti! of my
nose. She lets her breasts touch my chest. I softly hold her hand
$hich is hanging at her side. We stare into each other's eyes for a
moment. I then look at her li!s and go into the first kiss !attern. I
do it "ery slo$ly and sensually. I lick my li!s but she does not lick
hers. I tilt my head slightly to one, but she does not mo"e any
closer.
*hen, she dro!s her head back e+!osing her neck. I $ould lo"e to
kiss her neck but she did not kiss my li!s. So I sim!ly describe
"ery softly into her ear ho$ it $ould feel for her to ha"e her neck
kissed. She then !uts the side of her face =ust ne+t to the side of
mine.
I say DIf $e kee! doing this, $e are going to @E* S0
I/%RE6I&EL 30*.
&ut $e can't do that.D I res!ectfully back a$ay and say DAs much
as I $ant to take you home $ith me tonight, I can't. I am staying at
my !arents house $ith my t$o sons.D She says D0h, I ha"e a son
too. 3o$ old are yours(D It turns out she had been married from
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age '? to ,' and she has a young son $hom she and her e+
husband ha"e =oint custody of.
*his is her $eek off. We talk about raising children and shared
"alues. She has her undergraduate and masters degree in 3uman
Resources.
*hen she says Dou are a good listener.D I say D*hank you. 3o$
do you mean(D She says D9ost !eo!le =ust say 'yeah, ahum, yeah'
but you really listen to $hat I say.D I re!ly $ith D*here is a big
difference bet$een =ust hearing someone 2!oint a$ay) and really
listening to someone 2s!).
When 07 REALL LIS*E/ *0 *3IS 8ERS0/ 2s!) you feel
that 07 REALL E/0W *3IS 8ERS0/ and it allo$s you to
:EEL :REE WI*3 *3IS 8ERS0/ to allo$ yourself to &E%09E
;7L/ERA&LE *0 *3IS 8ERS0/.D She enthusiastically agrees.
*hen she brings attention to herself, and brings the con"ersation
back to se+, by saying D6o you kno$ the PPP club on the other
side of to$n(D
I say D/o.D She says DIt's a gay bar.D 2I think she is talking about a
bar for gay men, but she means a bar for lesbian $omen.) She
continues $ith D9y friend and I $ent there last $eek =ust for kicks.
*his one $oman came u! to me and said 'our breasts are so large'
and she said 'and they are so 78'.D Su4anne is ob"iously "ery
!roud of her breasts and they are "ery sensual for her and she has
noticed that her eyes are the only thing that I ha"e looked at.
Su4anne continues $ith DIf I had
been born $ith small breasts, I $ould not ha"e them enlarged. I
think our bodies are our bodies. *hey are $hat @od ga"e us. I
once $anted to be a model, but I $ill not eat =ust t$o cucumber
slices a day. *his is my body. Also, a !erson has to acce!t me for
$hat I am.D
I say Des, your man 2s!) is a man $ho acce!ts you for $hat you
are. A man $ho makes 07 :EEL like the s!ecial $oman that
you are. A man $ho makes 07 :EEL S0 &EA7*I:7L. A
man $ho makes 07 :EEL S0 ;ER SEQ.D
She says DI am not seeing anyone right no$. Are you seeing
anyone right no$(D I say D/o.D She says DWhat does 6a"id $ant
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in a $oman(D I say D6a"id $ants...D She laughs and interru!ts me
$ith D/o, let's not talk in the third !erson.D We share a laugh and I
start o"er $ith DI $ant to be $ith a $oman... 2I lightly touch the
u!!er !art of her sternum) $ho has...
2I recite Ross' Ds!ecial AualitiesD !attern and motion back and
forth.)
She says DLolita.D I say DWhat(D She says DloFLEEFtaGD and she
s$ings her hi!s and flings one arm in the air. I say DLolita(D She
says D3a"e you e"er seen that mo"ie(D I say DWhat $as that
mo"ie about(D She says DIt $as about a $oman named Lolita.
Sometimes I am Lolita. I am a "ery !ro!er $oman, but sometimes
I am Lolita. A slut.D I say Dou like to allo$ that $oman inside
you to come out.D She corrects me and says D*hat little girlD as she
!uts her hand to sho$ the height of the girl.
I correct my statement $ith Dou like to allo$ that little girl inside
you to come out.D She says D0h yes. 9ost men cannot deal $ith
the fact that I am a "ery sensual $oman, that at times I $ant to be a
slut.
*here is nothing $rong $ith it, but they =ust cannot deal $ith it.D
I kno$ that this $oman $ants a strong man. I motion a$ay and
say DSome men are not strong enough to deal $ith a "ery sensual
$oman, but 2s!) your strong man can bring out the slut in you.D
She says DAre you a strong man(D I re!ly by challenging her: DAre
you the ty!e of $oman $ho can ALL0W 07RSEL: *0 :EEL
:REE $ith this man 2s!). %an you 2touch her sternum) gi"e
!ermission to your strong man to be gentle yet strong $ith you(D
She says D%an you deal $ith a $oman $ho $ants to be a slut(D I
say D/othing gi"es me greater !leasure than to take this !ro!er
$oman 2touch her sternum) and melt do$n her $alls and make
07 :EEL S0 08E/ 2slide finger slo$ly do$n her sternum) and
make 07 :EEL S0 ;7L/ERA&LE and make 07 :EEL S0
SEQ.D She has the doggy dinner bo$l look big time, so I slide
my finger do$n into her clea"age and say Dand make 07
:EEL S0 30*.D
She looks at my hand that is !ointing at her clea"age and she takes
my hand and slides it do$n o"er her breast. She $atches as I
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softly hold her breast $hile her hand still softly co"ers my hand.
She !resses her breast against my hand. I feel her ni!!le erection
through her thin lacy bra. She dro!s her head back and allo$s her
body to fall against mine. 3e ear is ne+t to my mouth. I say "ery
sensually into her ear DAnd make 07 :EEL S0 ;ER
EQ%I*E6....and make 07 :EEL S0 ;ER SE/S7AL....and
make 07 :EEL S0 ;ER SEQ....and make 07 :EEL S0
;ER
30*.D She !uts her free hand behind my head and slo$ly slides
the side of her face back against mine until our li!s are "ery close.
She allo$s the ti! of her tongue to slide out bet$een her li!s =ust
so slightly.
*hen she gently bites her bottom li!. She looks at my li!s and then
she slo$ly tilts her head to one side and closes her eyes and "ery
slo$ly brings her li!s to mine and softly kisses me. I do not mo"e
into her or tilt my head. I allo$ her to lead for a $hile. *hen she
o!ens her li!s e"er so slightly and begins kissing me !assionately.
/o$ I !artake and I kiss her back !assionately. She remo"es her
hand from my hand and !uts it behind my head. I !ut my free
hand on the back of her $aist.
Right there, at the bar, in this cro$ded night club, $e are kissing
!assionately $ith her hands on the back of my head $hile I firmly
fondle her breast. 0nly one hour after first meeting this
com!letely sober !ro!er educated !rofessional $oman.
*hen she dro!s her head back again e+!osing her neck and $ra!s
her arms around my neck to !lace her neck "ery closely to me. I
kiss her neck.
*hen I make my $ay u! to her ear and I sensually yet strongly say
into her ear Dou :EEL S0 ;ER S8E%IAL....ou :EEL S0
;ER &EA7*I:7L....ou :EEL S0 ;ER SE/S7AL....ou
:EEL S0 ;ER SEQ....ou :EEL S0 ;ER EQ%I*E6....ou
:EEL S0 ;ER 30*....ou are so 30* you cannot stand
it....ou are so *7R/E6 0/ that you must ha"e this....ou :EEL
LIEE *3E SL7* *3A* 07 ARE.D She holds on tighter. I
really go for it no$ and say Dou ha"e to ha"e this so fcking
badly. ou need this so fcking badly. ou $ant to be fcked like
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the slut that you are.D She starts moaning. She lifts one leg and
rubs the inside of her thigh against the outside of my thigh. I hold
her breast e"en more firmly and say Dou $ant to be fcked so
fcking hard
like the slut that you are.D She moans e"en more.
I ha"e got to get this $oman to take me home, and I ha"e to do it
before she reali4es $hat she is doing in this cro$ded night club. I
go for the close. I say DWe are making each other so fcking hot.
We need to be $ith each other tonight. *his is cruel. I can't take
you home $ith me. We can't think about ho$ incredible it $ould
be.D
She stands still, lo$ers her leg, and brings for$ard her head to
look at me, and she agrees. She does not offer to take me home
$ith her.
She says D&ut I can gi"e you my number and you can gi"e me
yours and you can call meGD We com!ose oursel"es and turn
to$ards the bar. She asks her friend for a !iece of !a!er and a !en.
*he brunette is no longer talking to anyone. Su4anne and I
e+change numbers. She includes her last name. She then $ants to
e+change email addresses, so $e do that.
*hen she goes to the bathroom. It is last call. *he brunette comes
o"er to me and starts con"ersation. When Su4anne returns she
says to me
D9y friend is staying at my !lace tonight. Walk us to my car.D
I $alk her to her car $ith her friend in to$. Su4anne and I
embrace and kiss one last time. I say DIt is too bad that tonight
cannot continue for hours more. We cannot think about ho$
incredible it $ould be.D She says D9y friend is staying at my !lace
tonight. %all me. I can dri"e to 6etroit.D
I call her , days later. We ha"e a one hour con"ersation sharing
$ith each other $hat has been going on in our li"es. We agree to
s!eak again soon. A fe$ nights later she calls and $e s!eak for
about another hour. She is "ery busy $ith her =ob and a business
she had started.
She is too busy to get together in the near future.
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0ur communication then goes to email. She continues to re!ort
ho$ busy she is $ith $ork and her business and $ith her son. *he
emails e"entually die do$n. I got one email in $hich she says she
really $ants to get together, but it is a bad time. *hen I do not hear
from her. I $ait about , $eeks and send her an email saying DIf
$e ne"er get the chance to en=oy each other's com!any again, I =ust
$anted to thank you for gi"ing me the most incredible,
unforgettable, kiss I ha"e e"er recei"ed.D
About a $eek later I recei"e this email: DI ha"e been distant,
although I ha"e thought about you. %urrently I am $orking on
some !ersonal issues regarding a relationshi!. I ha"e been
consumed $ith confusion.
I don't $ant to say this, but maybe the timing for us $as not right.
7nfortunately, I ha"e to be distant right no$, until I sol"e some
!roblems in my life. *hank you for s$eetness. When things settle
do$n maybe $e can talk. I am glad that I met you. I $ish our
!aths could cross again "ery soon.D
I $ait a fe$ days and res!ond $ith: DWhen $e met, you said that
you no longer had any issues concerning !ast relationshi!s. I
e+!ect $hen someone is interested in me, that they are genuine
about their intentions. I $ould ho!e that you meant all the things
that you said to me that night. I $ill not be a one night 'nightclub'
flirtatious fantasy. *hat ha!!ens all too often. I am interested in a
mutually fulfilling relationshi! based on mutual trust and res!ect.
I $ill not settle for anything less. *here are many honest and
genuine $omen $ho $ant that too.D
She sends me back a long email detailing ho$ she became
attached to the guy's t$o kids and no$ she misses them e"en
though she does not miss him. I do not res!ond the her email, but I
do make note of her trance $ords. About . days later she sends
this email: DI $as ho!ing to hear a res!onse from you( I had
emailed you on Sunday, did you recei"e it(
8lease let me kno$ if you are still interested in ha"ing contact $ith
me or should $e not $rite or talk anymore( I ho!e that you don't
feel that $ay. I look for$ard to your res!onse.D
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I re!ly using some of her trance $ords: DI am still interested in
talking. I understand becoming attached to children. I kno$ that
you are a "ery u! beat !erson, as $ell as a strong inde!endent
$oman. ou are also a "ery beautiful and s!ecial $oman.
3o!efully soon you $ill feel comfortable $ith the idea of seeing
me again. When you honestly can say to yourself that, you are
ready to again en=oy the com!any that $e en=oyed together, and,
you feel that you $ant to get together, then
gi"e me a call.D 2/otice the !lacement of commas in that last
sentence.)
*he follo$ing night, :riday, she calls me. We start $ith small talk
about ho$ busy $e are. E"entually the con"ersation must mo"e to
$hat ha!!ened in our emails. So I say DI recei"ed an interesting
email from you.D She says DI recei"ed an interesting email from
you. Why did you think I $as still in a relationshi!(D I say D*hat
$as the tone of your email.D She e+!lained again ho$ she $as no
longer interested in him but did still miss the relationshi! she had
$ith his children. She $ants to see the children but does not $ant
him to see that as her still being interested in him.
She regretted that she got to kno$ his kids so early in the
relationshi!. It $as because of the kids that she continued to see
him e"en though she allo$ed her self esteem to suffer. She said
D/o$ I am ha!!y. /o$ I am $orking on my self esteem. *hat is
ho$ I $ant to feel, $hether I am alone or in a relationshi!. I $ill
not allo$ that to ha!!en again. I ha"e been $ounded. &ut they are
not !ermanent in=uries.D
*hen she asks me DAre you ha!!y(D I say DI am ha!!y. I am
content.
Whether I am in a relationshi! or not. I ha"e come to this !oint. I
$as $ounded, badly, but that $as a long time ago. I am
com!letely healed and I ha"e no issues. I $ill not allo$ that to
ha!!en again. I am "ery ha!!y, but there is =ust one thing missing.
Sometimes, es!ecially at this time of night, I miss ha"ing someone,
someone to hold, someone s!ecial to cherish.D She asks DAre you
lonely(D I say
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DAt times I am lonely. Sometimes at this time of night.D She says
DAnd $hat is it that you seek $hen you feel lonely(D I say DI $ant
to feel a dee! incredible connection F on all le"els of intimacy F
emotional, intellectual, !hysical, and s!iritual.D
She says DE"erything in my relationshi! $as fine, e+ce!t there
$as no !assion. Without !assion se+ is =ust mechanical. I need
the !assion.
It is something that is either there or is not. ou =ust kno$ it $hen
it is there. It is in the look.D I say DSe+ $ithout !assion is =ust
mechanical. When there is !assion, you kno$ it $hen you look
into this !erson's eyes. Like that night $e met, $hen $e looked
dee!ly into each other's eyes, $e both kne$.D She says DIt is the
!assion I miss. I did not reali4e it until that night $e met. E"er
since that night I ha"e
reali4ed ho$ much I need it.D
I say D*hen you are !robably $ondering if there is a $ay $here
you can e+!erience !assion again $ithout getting into a dee!
relationshi!, $ithout in"ol"ing children, $ithout com!romising
your self esteem, $here you can :EEL 3A88 A&07*
07RSEL:.D She says DAre you asking me or are you telling
me(D I say DI am saying that is !robably $hat you ha"e been
considering.D She says DWould you like to get together(D I say DI
$ould like that, but only under the condition that there $ill be no
in"ol"ement of children, that there $ill not be a hea"y relationshi!,
that you feel that 07 3A;E A 3I@3 SEL: ES*EE9, that you
feel that 07 ARE *R7L 3A88, and that $e can take the
time to get to kno$ that WE :EEL *3E 8ASSI0/ &E*WEE/
7S.D
She says D0E.D I say D0E.D She says DI $ill dri"e to you and $e
can go out for a drink.D I say D*hat $ould be great.D She says
DWhen $ould be good for you(D I say DWhen is good for you(D
She says D3o$ about Sunday night(D I say DI ha"e my sons until
Sunday night.D She says D3o$ about 9onday night(D I say D*hat
$ould be good.D She says DI $ill be done $orking out by B. I can
be there by C. 3o$ do I get there(D I say DI $ill email you
detailed directions and a ma!.D She agrees and $e say good night.
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We did not discuss a location to meet F $hether it be a bar or my
!lace. *he ne+t day I email her directions to my !lace. In the
email I say DWhen you get here, $e $ill go to a nearby !lace to
ha"e a drink. I look for$ard to our con"ersation.D
I s!end some time during the $eekend !re!aring a story that I $ill
tell Su4anne. It is based on &isho!'s D/ecklaceD !attern, but
tailored s!ecifically to Su4anne and using Su4anne's trance $ords.
I kno$ that my story is corny as hell, and ob"iously contri"ed, but
I ha"e come to reali4e that Ross is right that $omen each this shit
u!.
9onday night at C:11 I !rint off the story and !ut it in my =acket.
When Su4anne arri"es, she calls her friend 2the brunette) to tell her
she arri"ed 0E. *hen $e get into my car for the dri"e to the local
!ub. Su4anne is "ery talkati"e and there is no !roblem maintaining
small talk. She mentions that she has told her !eo!le at $ork that
she $ill not be in until noon the ne+t day.
*he !ub is cro$ded. We find a table against the $all. 6ue to the
noise le"el, $e ha"e to sit ne+t to each other on the bench seat to
hear each other. *he $aitress comes by and $e order a drink.
I do not $ant any more small talk and I $ant to get Su4anne into a
trance right a$ay, so =ust as soon as $e are settled in and feeling
comfortable, I bring out the story. I say DI ha"e $ritten a story to
tell you.D She says D0h really( 0h my. I $ould lo"e to hear itGD I
begin reading the story.
&y the end of the story, Su4anne is a bright !ink and has a big
smile on her face. She looks at me and says DW30 $as that
about(D I =ust smile. She says DWas that about us(D I say DIt
could be.D
I $ant us to no$ tra"erse the timeline of our relationshi! to date in
re"erse chronological order. I ha"e found that this $orks "ery
$ell.
So I say DI en=oyed our !hone con"ersation the other night. I $as
glad that $e came to an understanding of each other's situation.D
She says Des. What is your situation(D I say D9y ma=or concern
is that I ne"er $ant to get married again.D She says D0h me too. I
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think it is =ust a !iece of !a!er.D I say DI agree. When t$o !eo!le
truly $ant to make this $ork 2motion) then they can kee! it
e+citing.D She says DAnd ho$ do t$o !eo!le kee! it e+citing(D I
say D&y being creati"e.D
She says Dou don't =ust listen, you really hear.D I say D*hank
you. I $ant to really hear $hat it is you say.D She says Dou do.
ou really ha"e a skill for communication.D I say DI belie"e it is
all about communication. 0nly $ith communication can there be
that dee! ra!!ort that allo$s us to :EEL %L0SE to each other.D
She says Dou are "ery honest $ith your feelings.D I say D*hank
you.
3o$ do you mean(D She says DLike $hen you said 'I do not $ant
a one night stand.'D I say D%orrect, I do not $ant a one night stand.
If I ha"e you tonight, I $ill $ant you again and again. If tonight is
going to be =ust a one night stand, then I am not interested in
ha"ing se+ $ith you.D She says D/o /o. I mean $hen you said
that you did not $ant a one night nightclub flirtatious fantasy. I
think you said 'I $ill not stand for that'.D I say D0h yes. es, that
is correct.D She says DI $as a bit sur!rised that you $ould =ust
come right out and tell me that. *hat told me that you s!eak $hat
is on your mind no matter $hat anybody thinks. ou are "ery
truthful $ith your feelings.D
I look into her eyes and say DS!eaking about that night, I $ant to
thank you for gi"ing me the most incredible... unforgettable... kiss
I ha"e e"er recei"ed.D She says D6o you remember $hen I !ut my
face ne+t to yours(D
And she brings the side of her face ne+t to the side of mine. I
softly say into her ear D6o you remember $hen I described to you
ho$ $onderful it $ould feel for me to kiss your neck, all the $ay
do$n, and then all the $ay u!.D
She looks at me and says Dou are a smart man. ou are unlike
other men. A $oman connects emotions $ith se+, but for most
men, it is se!arate. &ut for you, you connect emotion $ith se+.D I
say DI do connect emotion $ith se+. I am not interested unless
there is that strong emotional connection. /o$, as for $omen, I
think $omen com!artmentali4e in a s!ecial $ay...D And I go into
,C1
9a=or 9ark's Dcom!artmentsD !attern. I !lant an anchor $ith a
$rist sAuee4e.
I say Dou kno$, $e li"e , hours a!art. *hat is kinda like a long
distance relationshi!.D I go into &isho!'s DLong 6istance
Relationshi!D !attern. She lo"es it. At the end of the !attern, she
says D&ut $e li"e close enough to $here if $e ha"e to ha"e it right
no$, $e can do it.D I say Des, $hen 07 3A;E *0 3A;E
*3IS 2s!) RI@3* /0W, $hen 07 ARE S0 EQ%I*E6 that
07 3A;E *0 3A;E *3IS, you can 3A;E *3IS *0/I@3*.D
She says Dou kno$, I used to kno$ this guy. 3e $as dro! dead
gorgeous. &ut he did not interest me. We $ould !lay tennis
together and he $ould s$eat and he $ould take off his shirt. 3e
$as tall and broad. I kno$ he $anted to slee! $ith me. &ut as
beautiful as he $as, he did not interest me, because he had nothing
interesting to say. &ut you, e"erything you say, is so fascinating,
so $arm and fu44y. ou make me feel $arm and fu44y.D I say
D/othing gi"es me greater !leasure than making 07 :EEL S0
@006.D She says D3e used to call me at 5:-1 in the morning and
$ant to go !lay tennis. I hated that. ou don't get u! early do you,
you go in at about C, right(D I say yes.
She says DWhat time do you get u! on the $eekends(D I say
DAbout noon.D She laughs and says DWell I don't get u! that late,
but I do like to take my time about things.D I say DI like to get u!
and take my time about making !ancakes. In fact, some Saturday
morning I $ould like to make you some !ancakes, and I $ould
take my time about dri!!ing ma!le syru! on you and then slo$ly
licking it all off.D She says D0hhh that $ould be nice.D I say Dou
kno$ $hat is really fun, on a $arm Saturday, $hen 07 ARE
REALL 30*, is $hen you can ha"e fun $ith ice cubes. I
don't mean !utting ice cubes directly on your skin. I mean $hen I
take and hold the ice cube in my hand and let the ice cube slo$ly
melt and let the cold $ater dro!lets dri! onto your skin, and let it
send shi"ers all throughout your body, and let it dri! here...D 2I
touch the to! of her sternum, firing off an anchor from the last time
$e $ere together.)
,C'
DAnd let it dri! here...D 2I touch a little lo$er.) DAnd let it dri!
here...D 2I touch into her clea"age.) She says D0h yes. ALL the
$ay do$n.D I say D0h yes, and send the shi"ers all the $ay
do$n.D
She says DWhy me( I mean, $hy me( 0f all the $oman you
could ha"e selected that night, $hy did you choose me(D I say
DAfter ha"ing gone to the night clubs for so many years, I ha"e
cum to reali4e that beauty is common. I could go into any night
club and I could begin con"ersation $ith any number of beautiful
$omen, but it takes more than beauty to interest me.D I recite
Ross' Ds!ecial AualitiesD !attern. I
continue $ith DSoon after you and I began talking, I began to feel
that you might !osses those Aualities. And you kno$ ho$ I kne$
that(D She says D3o$(D I say D&ecause I felt that incredible
connection bet$een us. I felt it right here.D I !oint to my solar
!le+us. She says Des, right here.D And she !oints to her solar
!le+us. She says DIt is like the sun. It is $arm and fu44y.D
She then asks me DWhat is your fa"orite color(D I say D*hat is a
good Auestion.D She says DLike for clothes, $hat colors do you
like to $ear(D I say DI like black and $hite.D She says DI do too.D
I ask DWhat is your fa"orite color, I mean, $hen you think of
!assion, $hat color $ould that be(D She says D0h, that $ould be
redGD I say DAnd $hen you SEE *3IS RE6, &RI@3*L,
%LEARL, ho$ does that make you feel(D
She says DIt makes me feel hot.D
*hen she mo"es her face "ery close to mine and says Dou kno$, I
$as a bad girl.D I say DIs that so( 3o$ is that(D She says DAfter
our !hone con"ersation the other night, you made me cum.D I say
DI am so ha!!y to hear that. 3o$ did I make you cum(D She =ust
smiles. I say DWas I touching you(D She says D/o. ou $ere
licking me and then making lo"e to me. I lo"e it like that, going
from one right into the other.D
*hen she !roceeds slo$ly to gi"e me another incredible,
unforgettable kiss. It gets dee!er and hotter. I !ull back and look
around and then look at her and say DE"erybody is !robably saying
,C,
'*hose t$o should get a room'.D She laughs and says Des.D I say
D3ey, $e S307L6 get a room.D She says Des, $e S307L6 get
a room.D I say D0E.D She says D0E.D And then she =um!s u! and
grabs her coat so I =um! u! and grab my coat. I take her hand and
$e $alk Auickly to my car. We dri"e back to my !lace $here $e
s!end hours doing delightfully lurid things to each
other.
6a"id Shade
MrSex4uNYC comments on David Shade's "The Kiss"
676EG your skills ha"e increased I/%RE6I&LG this $as a
:7%EI/@ %LI/I%G
s$eeeeetG :)
After checking out a number of !laces, I e"entually make my $ay
to this one large cro$ded loud night club. &y no$ it is about
',:-1 A9. 9y attention is grabbed by a blonde and a brunette
standing at the bar.
I a!!roach the brunette and say DE+cuse me, I kno$ you are
ha"ing a beer $ith your friend, but can I ask you something(D She
looks at me but says nothing. I say D6o you kno$ the best !lace to
go( I ha"e not !artied in this to$n for some time.D
hahaha s$eet. you start the con"ersation $ith her and you don't
WA/* anything from her that she isn't $illing to gi"e you 2yet)
like a blo$=ob. you also get her to 60 S09E*3I/@ :0R 07
making her feel like you are a $orthy !erson to do
things for 2$atch that cogniti"e dissonance no$G) She stares coldly
for a moment and then says D3ere.D I say D*hank you. I used to
come here $hen it $as called PPP.D She says D0h. 6o you
remember $hen PPP used to !lay here(D I say D/o, but do you
remember $hen PPP used to !lay here(D
good sign. she could ha"e instructed you to A/0*3ER 8LA%E
far a$ay from her :)
*hen the blonde motions to the brunette as if to ask $hat is going
on.
*he brunette tells the blonde D3e is asking $here the best !lace to
go is.D I say to the blonde Des, I used to li"e here some time ago
,C-
and I $as $ondering $hat is the best !lace to go.D She says
DWhere do you li"e no$(D
3ELL0G &I/@0G notice the 9AREE6 difference in the
reaction to the same statement DI used to li"e hereD one chick talks
about the 8AS* and this chick
talks about the 8RESE/*... 3IS !resent. she is not interested in
tri"ia games
like the other chick. she is interested in 6a"id as a !erson :)
I say D*he 6etroit area.D She says D0h, $hat do you do there(D I
say DI am an engineer, but I am only analytical during the day.D
She laughs heartily at this one. I continue $ith DAfter $ork I rela+
and en=oy being a human, and being creati"e.D
haG co"er all the bases
She says DWhat is your name(D I e+tend my hand and say D9y
name's 6a"id.D She shakes my hand and says D9y name's
Su4anne.D
8ER:E%*G no names until they ASE for your name and don't ask
for hers either.
hehehe
Su4anne then asks me DSo, do you !aint(D I say D/o, I $rite
!oetry.D
oh god no... here $e goooo :) 8LEASE, 8LEASE don't let this
guy start reciting !oetry ladies :) there ought to be a com!osite in
the 8ost 0ffice of 6a"id $ith a !iece of !a!er :> She says
DReally(D I say Des, and if I $ere to recite one of my !oems to
you, $ould you gi"e me your honest o!inion(D
/ice softener and !resu!!osition
She motions to her friend and says D3e is going to tell us a !oem.D
I $ant to direct my !oem only to Su4anne. I look at Su4anne as I
start /ick :ortune's D*$o Eyes.D She finds that she has to !ut her
ear near my mouth to hear.
yeah. s!eak softly intentionally so you !ull her in she did not
really feel that she $as the most Ds!ecial !ersonD to him. She said
it did not make her feel DbeautifulD or Dse+y.D I look her directly in
the eyes and mo"e my face slightly closer to hers
,C.
and say Dou $ant to be $ith 2s!) a man $ho makes 07 :EEL
&EA7*I:7L and
makes 07 :EEL SEQ and makes 07 :EEL LIEE *3E
90S* S8E%IAL 8ERS0/.D
She says D0h yes. I don't kno$ $hy I am telling you all this.D She
does not $ait for a res!onse, but instead continues talking.
this is the funiest shit hahahaha you basically 6I%*A*E6 all of
this shit to her and she $ent for it :)
*he brunette ne"er interru!ted us and Su4anne had totally
forgotten about her. *he brunette goes around to behind Su4anne
and introduces herself to some guy standing there, and then she
checks to see if I am seeing this.
haG too late honey... you :7%EE6 I* 78G yo... you ne"er said
$hich one $as the target. $ere they &0*3 "iable targets( did
you a!!roach the brunette 0/ 87R80SE because she $as the
lesser of the t$o( I kno$ W3 you !icked the blonde, but other
than that enthusiasm and desire to get to kno$ you, $as the
brunette an obstacle $hen you $alked u! or an alternati"e target(
Su4anne and I ha"e established good ra!!ort, so I go into the I%
!attern. She says D0h noG *hat has ne"er ha!!ened to meGD I say
D*hat has ne"er ha!!ened to you(D She says DI am too !rotecti"e.D
I say DWhat do you mean(D She says DI !ut u! a $all to !rotect my
"ulnerability. I ha"e been hurt too many times.D
this A88EARS to be a double !roblem. she has ne"er felt the I%
2or so she says) so you can't anchor that. she has also declared that
she is damaged goods. I see ho$ later you use the "ulnerability to
good ad"antage though.
*hen she looks me directly in the eyes and mo"es her face a little
closer and says DI could tell you $ere an older man.D I say D*hank
you.
3o$ could you tell I am a more mature man(D She says D&ecause
you look at me right in the eyes. oung men cannot look at me
right in the eyes.D I mo"e closer to her face and look intensely into
her eyes and say DI think the eyes are the $indo$s to the s!irit.D
She says D0h, so true, the s!irit is $hat $e truly are. 0ur bodies
are =ust the gift that @od ga"e us. A tool.D
,C5
"ery nice. "ery nice. $omen are al$ays looking for a guy /0* to
$ant them for
their bodies or for RAW, A/I9AL SEQG they belie"e in some
s!iritual connection
that is a W0R*3 reason for se+. this E/*IRE SE%*I0/ is
@0L6G :)
In my dee!est, most sensual "oice, I say Des, so true. In order to
really get to kno$ 2s!) someone, you must look dee! into their
s!irit.
0nly $hen 07 *R7L E/0W *3IS 8ERS0/ 2s!) can you
use this tool of e+!ression, and S3ARE *3E @I:* 0: 07R
&06IES so dee!ly 2motion back and forth.) When 07
REALL E/0W *3IS 8ERS0/ 2s!) 07 :EEL :REE to
%ELE&RA*E *3IS @I:* that brings our s!irits so much closer
together.D
tremendous. using her bodiesKgift... nice all around.
She slo$ly mo"es the ti! of her nose to almost touch the ti! of my
nose. She lets her breasts touch my chest. I softly hold her hand
$hich is hanging at her side. We stare into each other's eyes for a
moment. I then look at her li!s and go into the first kiss !attern. I
do it "ery slo$ly and sensually. I lick my li!s but she does not lick
hers. I tilt my head slightly to one, but she does not mo"e any
closer.
this is interesting. this is $here I $ould ha"e 3A6 to kiss her...
but I understand $hat you are doing and I think you are absolutely
right in this instance. once I see the green light, I thro$ that shit
into @EARG I kno$ you are baiting her and structuring o!s, but I
$ould ha"e s$itched u! here... =ust a little though :)
*hen, she dro!s her head back e+!osing her neck. I $ould lo"e to
kiss her neck but she did not kiss my li!s. So I sim!ly describe
"ery softly into her ear ho$ it $ould feel for her to ha"e her neck
kissed. She then !uts the side of her face =ust ne+t to the side of
mine.
can you say a cou!le of $ords about this( is it that kissing her
neck is a REWAR6 for her kissing you on the li!s( is kissing you
on the li!s some SI@/ that she $ants to be $ith you( is it =ust that
,C<
S3E needs to initiate because you are the seller and she is the
buyer( I !ersonally ALWAS go neck or ear first. then again,
9 focus is to make her 83SI%ALL feel like she $ants more.
you ha"e chosen to talk her do$n.
$hat do you think it meant $hen she !ut her face ne+t to yours(
is her kissing
you on the li!s the 0/L sign you $ill acce!t of her interest in
you gi"ing you the green light to do more( I am "ery interested in
the logic or techniAue behind this because I $ould ha"e been all
o"er her already. if there is a better logic here, I $ould like to
consider it :)
I say DIf $e kee! doing this, $e are going to @E* S0
I/%RE6I&EL 30*.
&ut $e can't do that.D I res!ectfully back a$ay and say DAs much
as I $ant to take you home $ith me tonight, I can't. I am staying at
my !arents house $ith my t$o sons.D
I understand saying you can't take her home... structuring the o!
for her to take you some$here else. it seems !remature though.
$hy are you talking about this already( $hy are you talking about
taking her home( $hy are you considering changing "enues and
!otentially breaking her state(
$hy use /E@A*I;ES like Dbut $e can't do thatD( I understand
it's a setu! for the ne+t line about taking her home. I think you
$ere !remature mo"ing it to this stage. then again... you are the
romantic and I am not. you might not consider fucking her in the
bar bathroom or getting head from her out in your car.
She says D0h, I ha"e a son too. 3o$ old are yours(D It turns out
she had been married from age '? to ,' and she has a young son
$hom she and her e+ husband ha"e =oint custody of.
*his is her $eek off. We talk about raising children and shared
"alues. She has her undergraduate and masters degree in 3uman
Resources.
/0W look $hat ha!!ened to you :) because of your 80WER
8LA to get her to take
you home I/S*EA6 of getting her !hysically horny enough to
grab your hand and
,CB
87LL 07 out of the !lace so S3E can get some dick... you are
no$ ha"ing another discussion and ha"e fallen WA off the !ath.
I kno$ you !ull it back later :) but you had her in a 8RI9E
!osition &E:0RE you came u! $ith D$e can't do thatD. $hat $as
your reasoning as to W3 you can't do that( $as that a test to get
her to say DI WA/* to do that(D I really don't get it. 8lease
enlighten me. at this !oint, going $ith the A instead of the E
seems to ha"e :79&LE6G
*hen she says Dou are a good listener.D I say D*hank you. 3o$
do you mean(D She says D9ost !eo!le =ust say 'yeah, ahum, yeah'
but you really listen to $hat I say.D I re!ly $ith D*here is a big
difference bet$een =ust hearing someone 2!oint a$ay) and really
listening to someone 2s!).
When 07 REALL LIS*E/ *0 *3IS 8ERS0/ 2s!) you feel
that 07 REALL E/0W
*3IS 8ERS0/ and it allo$s you to :EEL :REE WI*3 *3IS
8ERS0/ to allo$ yourself to &E%09E ;7L/ERA&LE *0
*3IS 8ERS0/.D She enthusiastically agrees.
nice "ulnerability reference
our bodies are our bodies. *hey are $hat @od ga"e us. I once
$anted to be a model, but I $ill not eat =ust t$o cucumber slices a
day. *his is my body. Also, a !erson has to acce!t me for $hat I
am.D
I say Des, your man 2s!) is a man $ho acce!ts you for $hat you
are. A man $ho makes 07 :EEL like the s!ecial $oman that
you are. A man $ho makes 07 :EEL S0 &EA7*I:7L. A
man $ho makes 07 :EEL S0 ;ER SEQ.D
nice
She says DI am not seeing anyone right no$. Are you seeing
anyone right no$(D
EQ%ELLE/* sign. it is al$ays good $hen she asks you about
your status.
I say D/o.D She says DWhat does 6a"id $ant in a $oman(D I say
D6a"id $ants...D She laughs and interru!ts me $ith D/o, let's not
talk in the third !erson.D We share a laugh and I start o"er $ith DI
,C?
$ant to be $ith a $oman... 2I lightly touch the u!!er !art of her
sternum) $ho has...
2I recite Ross' Ds!ecial AualitiesD !attern and motion back and
forth.)
I can't tell if the follo$ing is in RES80/SE to your !attern or
I/*ERR78*I/@ your !attern. I assumed she heard some song
called Lolita(
She says DLolita.D I say DWhat(D She says DloFLEEFtaGD and she
s$ings her hi!s and flings one arm in the air. I say DLolita(D She
says D3a"e you e"er seen that mo"ie(D I say DWhat $as that
mo"ie about(D She says DIt $as about a $oman named Lolita.
Sometimes I am Lolita. I am a "ery !ro!er $oman, but sometimes
I am Lolita. A slut.D
uhFoh... gentlemen... S*AR* 07R E/@I/ESG I $ould ha"e
S*EA9R0LLE6 3ER for a remark like thatG :) I !robably
$ould ha"e started $ith Dyou( :) come onG
ha. !lease. ho$ good a slut $ould 07 be(D and challenged her
to REALL get
into character. 87*F78 or S37*F78G
I say Dou like to allo$ that $oman inside you to come out.D She
corrects me and says D*hat little girlD as she !uts her hand to sho$
the height of the girl.
I correct my statement $ith Dou like to allo$ that little girl inside
you to come out.D She says D0h yes. 9ost men cannot deal $ith
the fact that I am a "ery sensual $oman, that at times I $ant to be a
slut.
*here is nothing $rong $ith it, but they =ust cannot deal $ith it.D
oh she $ould ha"e caught it for this shit :)
I kno$ that this $oman $ants a strong man. I motion a$ay and
say DSome men are not strong enough to deal $ith a "ery sensual
$oman, but 2s!) your strong man can bring out the slut in you.D
She says DAre you a strong man(D I re!ly by challenging her: DAre
you the ty!e of $oman $ho can ALL0W 07RSEL: *0 :EEL
:REE $ith this man 2s!). %an you 2touch her sternum) gi"e
!ermission to your strong man to be gentle yet strong $ith you(D
She says D%an you deal $ith a $oman $ho $ants to be a slut(D I
,CC
say D/othing gi"es me greater !leasure than to take this !ro!er
$oman
2touch her sternum) and melt do$n her $alls and make 07
:EEL S0 08E/ 2slide finger slo$ly do$n her sternum) and make
07 :EEL S0 ;7L/ERA&LE and make 07 :EEL S0
SEQ.D She has the doggy dinner bo$l look big time, so I slide
my finger do$n into her clea"age and say Dand make 07 :EEL
S0 30*.D
She looks at my hand that is !ointing at her clea"age and she takes
my hand and slides it do$n o"er her breast. She $atches as I
softly hold her breast $hile her hand still softly co"ers my hand.
She !resses her breast against my hand. I feel her ni!!le erection
through her thin lacy bra. She dro!s her head back and allo$s her
body to fall against mine. 3e ear is ne+t to my mouth. I say "ery
sensually into her ear DAnd make 07 :EEL S0 ;ER
EQ%I*E6....and make 07 :EEL S0 ;ER SE/S7AL....and
make 07 :EEL S0 ;ER SEQ....and make 07 :EEL S0
;ER
30*.D She !uts her free hand behind my head and slo$ly slides
the side of her face back against mine until our li!s are "ery close.
She allo$s the ti! of her tongue to slide out bet$een her li!s =ust
so slightly.
*hen she gently bites her bottom li!. She looks at my li!s and then
she slo$ly tilts her head to one side and closes her eyes and "ery
slo$ly brings her li!s to mine and softly kisses me.
nice
I do not mo"e into her or tilt my head.
mo"ing on girls is subtle but im!ortant. I leaned in to kiss this
!i"ot I $as hanging out $ith the other day and she
6ELI&ERA*EL mo"ed around to kiss me on the cheek.
3A3A3A I felt like a fucking idiotG so the rest of the time $e
s!ent together, I ga"e her /0 L0;EG she tried to grab my arm
frenchF!romenade style and I ne"er bent it 3A3A3A her hand
$as sliding do$n my =acket... she looked S000 S*78I6 like
!rincess leia hanging on to luke or something hahaha :)
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$hen I $as lea"ing her I didn't mo"e on her A* ALL and then she
came to me and
ga"e me a long hug... so I felt her ass u! and left :)
I ALWAS mo"e on $omen because my !lan is to intimidate
them into action or
e=ecting ASA8. a chick $on't last A 6A $ith me $ithout getting
!ressured in some fashion. $ith this style though, you are
6E*ER9I/E6 to talk her do$n and create the 6ESIRE in her to
go after 07, making you the seller and not the buyer. I think the
style of making her take se+ from you is interesting... not a style
that I $ould use, but it is "ery effecti"e sometimes. $hen I tell
$omen I don't find them attracti"e, they suddenly $ant to tell me
ho$ hot they look dressed u! and flirt $ith me and get me back on
the band$agonFtoF/0W3EREG :)
I allo$ her to lead for a $hile. *hen she o!ens her li!s e"er so
slightly and begins kissing me !assionately. /o$ I !artake and I
kiss her back !assionately. She remo"es her hand from my hand
and !uts it behind my head. I !ut my free hand on the back of her
$aist.
Right there, at the bar, in this cro$ded night club, $e are kissing
!assionately $ith her hands on the back of my head $hile I firmly
fondle her breast. 0nly one hour after first meeting this
com!letely sober !ro!er educated !rofessional $oman.
*hen she dro!s her head back again e+!osing her neck and $ra!s
her arms around my neck to !lace her neck "ery closely to me. I
kiss her neck.
*hen I make my $ay u! to her ear and I sensually yet strongly say
into her ear Dou :EEL S0 ;ER S8E%IAL....ou :EEL S0
;ER &EA7*I:7L....ou :EEL S0 ;ER SE/S7AL....ou
:EEL S0 ;ER SEQ....ou :EEL S0 ;ER EQ%I*E6....ou
:EEL S0 ;ER 30*....ou are so 30* you cannot stand
it....ou are so *7R/E6 0/ that you must ha"e this....ou :EEL
LIEE *3E SL7* *3A* 07 ARE.D She holds on tighter. I
really go for it no$ and say Dou ha"e to ha"e this so fcking
badly. ou need this so fcking badly. ou $ant to be fcked like
the slut that you are.D She starts moaning. She lifts one leg and
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rubs the inside of her thigh against the outside of my thigh. I hold
her breast e"en more firmly and say Dou $ant to be fcked so
fcking hard
like the slut that you are.D She moans e"en more.
right here... you are WA in thereG I mean e+tract this chick to a
dark area, bathroom or car $ith tinted $indo$s and you're SE*G
I ha"e got to get this $oman to take me home, and I ha"e to do it
before she reali4es $hat she is doing in this cro$ded night club.
I *0*ALL 6ISA@REEG don't discount the effects of $hat you
are doing to her.
yes you need to get her out of the cro$d... but 309E is /0*
$here you $ant her.
there are too many things for her to consider that are going to
break her state. make out $ith her. e+tract her some$here and
feel her u! and make her &E@ to ha"e you inside her. I hear that
shit all the time DI $ant you inside meD *3A*'S $hat counts...
/0* being in her house in a bed... the fact that she %RA;ES
8E/E*RA*I0/G
you are also making erroneous assum!tions. you are ASS79I/@
that she $ould not
do this in front of !eo!le. she *0L6 07 that she LIEES being a
slut. 9aybe se+ in !ublic is !art of her slutF!ersona. maybe /0*
$anting to ha"e se+ in !ublic but being :0R%E6 *0 by a strong
man is !art of it. maybe not $anting to ha"e se+ in !ublic but not
being able to hel! herself &E%A7SE she is truly a slut is $hat
turns her on. you are assuming she $ill take you home at all.
$hat if someone is at her house like a husband or a boyfriend or
her mother is "isiting( $hat if her neighbors are nosey and she
can't A::0R6 to ha"e any random guys come to her house or they
$ill snitch( $hat if she li"es in a :7%EI/@ *RAILER and is
ashamed to take you there( you are assuming she $ould RA*3ER
be fucked at home than in a bar bathroom... like... a... SL7*G 8ay
attention to the realFlife ramifications of $hat she says to you
W3ILE you listen for the SS uses. you elicited her fantasy, but
didn't 7SE it. *hat shit about a strong man $as really great.
right here... you should ha"e started roleF!laying.
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she has 9A6E 3ERSEL: the slut. she has made you 3ER
9AS*ERG be that man. &e her master. take her. do it. !erha!s
it is easier said than done. I ha!!en to be a chameleon. I can
change into $hate"er character is necessary to com!lete her
fantasy. I $as cyberFse+ing this chick the other day, and I reali4ed
that she $as into a little R07@3ER treatment than I $ould use on
a normal chick. I I99E6IA*EL changed my style from
descri!tions of my regular kino to descri!tions of a 9AS*ER
controlling 3IS SL7*G
I had fun and she *0*ALL got off on it. I %07L6 ha"e ignored
$hat REALL made
her feel 30* and 30R/, but I $anted her to ha"e the most
I/*E/SE orgasm she could ha"e and reflecting 3ER :A/*AS
to her $as the key. you should ha"e ASS79E6 *3E 8ERS0/A
of a *R7E 9AS*ER and dragged your slut off some$here and
sho"ed your dick in her mouth... but then again, I kno$ you are the
romantic
and this may ha"e been an emotional S*RE*%3 for you... but I
guarantee you it
$ould ha"e been $orth it. :)
you e"en SAI6 that she $asn't drunk. she kno$s EQA%*L
$hat she's doing in a
cro$ded nightclub. she @A;E her body to you to use as you
!leased. you should
ha"e gotten into character and 7SE6 3ERG
I go for the close. I say DWe are making each other so fcking hot.
We need to be
$ith each other tonight. *his is cruel. I can't take you home $ith
me. We can't think about ho$ incredible it $ould be.D
She stands still, lo$ers her leg, and brings for$ard her head to
look at me, and she agrees. She does not offer to take me home
$ith her.
She says D&ut I can gi"e you my number and you can gi"e me
yours and you can call meGD We com!ose oursel"es and turn
to$ards the bar.
03 @06G
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no$ this is the SE%0/6 time she broke state. and you kno$
$hat you did &0*3 *I9ES( you !ressed for the Dtake me homeD
shit and ne"er s$itched gears to kino and action. !erha!s she $as
/E;ER going to fuck you that night at all, but I think she $as
ready for some action. 07 are the man at this shit and ES I
read all the $ay to the end $here you get her for the good
relationshi! on your terms and all that... but this is $here I say get
off of auto!ilot.
talking her into bed is one thing, but talking her into being horny,
*3E/ doing $hat has made !o!ulations e+ist for *307SA/6S
0: EARS is another. I say talk her into the mood, the :7%E
3ER 07* 0: *3E 9006G I say you had her and she came out
of state because you $ere talking $hen you should ha"e been
kissing and feeling.
$as there a !articular reason that you WA/*E6 to go 309E
$ith this chick( I
don't get it.
She asks her friend for a !iece of !a!er and a !en. *he brunette is
no longer talking to anyone. Su4anne and I e+change numbers.
She includes her last name. She then $ants to e+change email
addresses, so $e do that.
*hen she goes to the bathroom. It is last call. *he brunette comes
o"er to me and starts con"ersation. When Su4anne returns she
says to me D9y friend is staying at my !lace tonight. Walk us to
my car.D
ok. no$ there you ha"e a reason. she could /0* go home $ith
you because she
had to take her friend to her house. there $as /0 WA she $as
lea"ing $ithout that girl. $hen 07 EE8* *ELLI/@ 3ER let's
go home, she $as breaking state because home $as reminding her
of the brunette and of her son and of her e+Fhusband and of REAL
LI:EG sto! it sto! it sto! it. once you get them in the fantasy,
EEE8 *3E9 :A/*ASIÌ/@G you created @REA* states for her
and she $as lo"ing it... you ha"e to ca!itali4e on these gains ASA8
and mo"e into the E realm and get yoursG
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I $alk her to her car $ith her friend in to$. Su4anne and I
embrace and kiss one last time. I say DIt is too bad that tonight
cannot continue for hours more. We cannot think about ho$
incredible it $ould be.D She says D9y friend is staying at my !lace
tonight. %all me. I can dri"e to 6etroit.D
there you go again. more negati"e remarks. I see $hat you $ere
trying to do, but she $as /0* suggestible by this !oint. you are
talking about doing things tonight and her res!onse is about her
girlfriend... she is not connected no$.
6RI;E *0 6E*R0I*( $hat kind of res!onse is that for a $oman
that is in your face /0W( I guarantee you that a $oman that is
$illing to 6RI;E *0 6E*R0I* to be alone $ith you $ould ha"e
S7&9I**E6 to you $hen you had her in state and
follo$ed you W3ERE;ER to get fucked 2like the bathroom of the
bar) $ait about , $eeks and send her an email saying DIf $e ne"er
get the chance to en=oy each other's com!any again, I =ust $anted
to thank you for gi"ing me the most incredible, unforgettable, kiss
I ha"e e"er recei"ed.D
I like this :) referencing the kiss and acting like it meant
something to you.
that it $as different from other kisses you recei"ed from other
$omen. *here $as some s!iritual connection that you made $ith
her that you had not felt befor or since... you can go a long $ay
$ith $hat 07 felt from a kiss...
interesting :)
I $ill not be a one night 'nightclub' flirtatious fantasy. *hat
ha!!ens all too often. I am interested in a mutually fulfilling
relationshi! based on mutual trust and res!ect. I $ill not settle for
anything less. *here are many honest and genuine $omen $ho
$ant that too.D
this is a good stance. I am in !o!ular demand. don't bullshit me.
don't $aste my time. don't lie to me and cheat 6ESER;I/@
$omen out of s!ending time $ith me that you are hogging u!. the
Dmutually fulfillingD !art is good too because it sho$s that you are
not 0/L interested in your !leasure 2and in this case, s!iritual
nourishment) but hers is EL7ALL im!ortant.
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I re!ly using some of her trance $ords: DI am still interested in
talking. I understand becoming attached to children. I kno$ that
you are a "ery u! beat !erson, as $ell as a strong inde!endent
$oman. ou are also a "ery beautiful and s!ecial $oman.
3o!efully soon you $ill feel comfortable $ith the idea of seeing
me again. When you honestly can say to yourself that, you are
ready to again en=oy the com!any that
$e en=oyed together, and, you feel that you $ant to get together,
then gi"e me a call.D 2/otice the !lacement of commas in that last
sentence.)
oh shit :) until I read the !arens, I !assed right o"er it. I kne$
they $ere in the $rong !laces, but e"erybody does ty!os :) s$eet.
more dictation. I ha"e to add more :EEL statements into my
s!eech !atterns.
*he follo$ing night, :riday, she calls me.
haG
am "ery ha!!y, but there is =ust one thing missing. Sometimes,
es!ecially at this time of night, I miss ha"ing someone, someone to
hold, someone s!ecial to cherish.D She asks DAre you lonely(D I
say DAt times I am lonely. Sometimes at this time of night.D
s$eet. since I am ne"er lonely, I ne"er considered !laying the
Dhold me...
8LEASEGD angle. this is a 8ER:E%* $ay to structure A/ o! to
get $ith a chick.
I al$ays call them because I $ant something from them or I $ant
to go some$here and I reAuest their com!any. I ne"er call them
out of /EE6 for myself. I ne"er structure the o! for them to hel!
9EG I ne"er gi"e them a chance to be someone s!ecial for me. I
$ill try this out. 3A3A3A3A I lo"e thisG then it's the good old
cascade. she comforted me, so no$ she has an emotional
in"estment in me. I seem emotional A/6 I can use that to
RE%I8R0%A*E and REWAR6 her for being there for me, $hich
gi"es her e"en 90RE incenti"e to be there for me. mean$hile she
is building eAuity in my eyes 2as far as she's concerned) I feel
differently about her because she ser"es a different !ur!ose to me
than *ZA. I ha"e a s!iritual connection to her and she can bring
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another element into my life that other $omen can't. $hen I
reAuest to see her, it $ill be for her Ds!iritD and not her body... then
I can go into that stuff you used before about $hen I feel this
s!iritual connection, I $ant to gi"e you the gift of my body blah
blah blah... "eeeeery interesting :)
She says DAnd $hat is it that you seek $hen you feel lonely(D I
say DI $ant to feel a
dee! incredible connection F on all le"els of intimacy F emotional,
intellectual, !hysical, and s!iritual.D
nice
She says DE"erything in my relationshi! $as fine, e+ce!t there $as
no !assion. Without !assion se+ is =ust mechanical. I need the
!assion.
It is something that is either there or is not. ou =ust kno$ it $hen
it is there. It is in the look.D I say DSe+ $ithout !assion is =ust
mechanical. When there is !assion, you kno$ it $hen you look
into this !erson's eyes. Like that night $e met, $hen $e looked
dee!ly into each other's eyes, $e both kne$.D She says DIt is the
!assion I miss. I did not reali4e it until that night $e met. E"er
since that night I ha"e
reali4ed ho$ much I need it.D
that, gentlemen is $hat it's ALL about. gi"e them something that
they WA/* and
are not getting on a regular basis. they $ill SEEE 07 07* to
get more of it.
I say D*hen you are !robably $ondering if there is a $ay $here
you can e+!erience !assion again $ithout getting into a dee!
relationshi!, $ithout in"ol"ing children, $ithout com!romising
your self esteem, $here you can :EEL 3A88 A&07*
07RSEL:.D
that $as a really good line :) I missed the rele"ance to kids the
first time I read this. I thought you $ere 6I%*A*I/@ to her not
to $ant a dee! relationshi!, but you $ere referencing the
relationshi! $ith the guy that she doesn't like any more but is
attached to his kids. that $as a multi!leF$in setu!. nice.
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She says DAre you asking me or are you telling me(D I say DI am
saying that is !robably $hat you ha"e been considering.D She says
DWould you like to get together(D I say DI $ould like that, but only
under the condition that there $ill be no
in"ol"ement of children, that there $ill not be a hea"y relationshi!,
that you feel that 07 3A;E A 3I@3 SEL: ES*EE9, that you
feel that 07 ARE *R7L 3A88, and that $e can take the
time to get to kno$ that WE :EEL *3E 8ASSI0/ &E*WEE/
7S.D
e+cellent. I ha"e learned from that section :) I still $ould /E;ER
ha"e gotten here because I $ould ha"e fucked around $ith her in
the bar $ithout any con"ersation of A/*3I/@ and then S3E
$ould ha"e been !laying catchFu! if there $ere things she
WA/*E6 other than fun and se+ from our Drelationshi!D. Since
you ha"e gotten to this !oint though, it is a really great idea to
6E:I/E the boundaries in the beginning so that she kno$s and
agrees $hat she's getting into.
Subject: Re: field report David Shade "the kiss" (part 2 of 2)
She says D0E.D I say D0E.D She says DI $ill dri"e to you and $e
can go out for a drink.D I say D*hat $ould be great.D She says
DWhen $ould be good for you(D I say DWhen is good for you(D
She says D3o$ about Sunday night(D I say DI ha"e my sons until
Sunday night.D She says D3o$ about 9onday night(D I say D*hat
$ould be good.D She says DI $ill be done $orking out by B. I can
be there by C. 3o$ do I get there(D I say DI $ill email you
detailed directions and a ma!.D She agrees and $e say good night.
I do the same thing. make *3E9 make all the !lans. S3E $ants
to see 9E. I am
doing her the fa"or of hanging out $ith her and sho$ing her a
good time. S3E needs to make it ha!!en.
We did not discuss a location to meet F $hether it be a bar or my
!lace. *he ne+t day I email her directions to my !lace. In the
email I say DWhen you get here, $e $ill go to a nearby !lace to
ha"e a drink. I look for$ard to our con"ersation.D
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good... you might bag her &E:0RE going A/W3ERE.
Dha"ing a drinkD $as %LEARL an e+cuse for her to come and
see you.
I s!end some time during the $eekend !re!aring a story that I $ill
tell Su4anne. It is based on &isho!'s D/ecklaceD !attern, but
tailored s!ecifically to Su4anne and using Su4anne's trance $ords.
I kno$ that my story is corny as hell, and ob"iously contri"ed, but
I ha"e come to reali4e that Ross is right that $omen each this shit
u!.
I $ill ha"e to start collecting trance $ords. I don't use them to the
effect that you did throughout this %LI/I%G I use them to find out
$hat is missing in her life, then I thro$ them a$ay. I ha"e ne"er
used this hardcore dictationFstyle. storytelling fits right in $ith this
because you $ere telling her a story the $hole time.
9onday night at C:11 I !rint off the story and !ut it in my =acket.
When Su4anne arri"es, she calls her friend 2the brunette) to tell her
she arri"ed 0E. *hen $e get into my car for the dri"e to the local
!ub. Su4anne is "ery talkati"e and there is no !roblem maintaining
small talk. She mentions that she has told her !eo!le at $ork that
she $ill not be in until noon the ne+t day.
%3AF%3I/@G
*he !ub is cro$ded. We find a table against the $all. 6ue to the
noise le"el, $e ha"e to sit ne+t to each other on the bench seat to
hear each other. *he $aitress comes by and $e order a drink.
I do not $ant any more small talk and I $ant to get Su4anne into a
trance right a$ay, so =ust as soon as $e are settled in and feeling
comfortable, I bring out the story. I say DI ha"e $ritten a story to
tell you.D She says D0h really( 0h my. I $ould lo"e to hear itGD I
begin reading the story.
&y the end of the story, Su4anne is a bright !ink and has a big
smile on her face. She looks at me and says DW30 $as that
about(D I =ust smile. She says DWas that about us(D I say DIt
could be.D
nice
She says Dou kno$, I used to kno$ this guy. 3e $as dro! dead
gorgeous. &ut he did not interest me. We $ould !lay tennis
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together and he $ould s$eat and he $ould take off his shirt. 3e
$as tall and broad. I kno$ he $anted to slee! $ith me. &ut as
beautiful as he $as, he did not interest me, because he had nothing
interesting to say. &ut you, e"erything you say, is so fascinating,
so $arm and fu44y. ou make me feel $arm and fu44y.D
that's $hy *8E doesn't matter. he $as 83SI%ALL her ty!e
and could ha"e
fucked her $hene"er he $anted, but he only made her feel L7S*
$hich $as not
enough for this chick. she needed 8ASSI0/. she didn't ha"e it for
him and he didn't ha"e it for her. you created... 6I%*A*E6
!assion to her, and she felt it and lo"ed it. she :EL* !assionate
about you and felt that you felt it too for her.
I say D/othing gi"es me greater !leasure than making 07 :EEL
S0 @006.D She says D3e used to call me at 5:-1 in the morning
and $ant to go !lay tennis. I hated that. ou don't get u! early do
you, you go in at about C, right(D I say yes.
damn... you got really good at those :EEL statements.
She says DWhat time do you get u! on the $eekends(D I say
DAbout noon.D She laughs and says DWell I don't get u! that late,
but I do like to take my time about things.D I say DI like to get u!
and take my time about making !ancakes. In fact, some Saturday
morning I $ould like to make you some !ancakes, and I $ould
take my time about dri!!ing ma!le syru! on you and then slo$ly
licking it all off.D
3AG ok no$... W3ERE did that come from( that is a blatantly
se+ual reference.
$hat %7E did you get to change to this ty!e of talk(
She says DWhy me( I mean, $hy me( 0f all the $oman you
could ha"e selected that night, $hy did you choose me(D
this is I* friends... the LAS* Auestion. if he !asses this one, it's
his :)
she is ready to go. she =ust $ants affirmation that she is doing the
right thing.
I say DAfter ha"ing gone to the night clubs for so many years, I
ha"e cum to reali4e that beauty is common.
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nice
I could go into any night club and I could begin con"ersation $ith
any number of beautiful $omen, but it takes more than beauty to
interest me.D I recite Ross' Ds!ecial AualitiesD !attern. I continue
$ith DSoon after you and I began talking, I began to feel that you
might !osses those Aualities. And you kno$ ho$ I kne$ that(D
She says D3o$(D I say D&ecause I felt that incredible connection
bet$een
us. I felt it right here.D I !oint to my solar !le+us. She says Des,
right here.D And she !oints to her solar !le+us. She says DIt is like
the sun. It is $arm and fu44y.D
hahahahaha
*hen she mo"es her face "ery close to mine and says Dou kno$, I
$as a bad girl.D I say DIs that so( 3o$ is that(D She says DAfter
our !hone con"ersation the other night, you made me cum.D
$hat con"ersation is she talking about( the one $here you told
her you $anted to get together $ith her( or $as there another one(
I say DI am so ha!!y to
hear that. 3o$ did I make you cum(D She =ust smiles. I say DWas
I touching you(D She says D/o. ou $ere licking me and then
making lo"e to me. I lo"e it like that, going from one right into the
other.D
see that. no$ let's backtrack to the bar $hen you had her in your
arms. If you had licked her neck I/S*EA6 of *ALEI/@ about
going home $ith her, you $ould
ha"e gotten a reaction. S3E $ould ha"e reAuested se+ because of
ho$ hot she
felt from you LI%EI/@ 3ERG talking about going home did
/0*3I/@ for her.
besides, you $ere !remature because Dgoing homeD $ith you didn't
mean anything
to her yet. you ga"e her no 83SI%AL reason to belie"e you
could make her cum,
A/6 you didn't elicit $hat she likes in se+ until /0WG she had
/0 incenti"e to
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take you home at all. she 6I6 ha"e incenti"e to gi"e you your
shot to !ro"e
your :0RE8LA skills. $omen $ill lay a guy $ith
EQ%ELLE/* fore!lay. if you
can make her feel like that $ithout fucking her, I9A@I/E $hen
you get to the
REAL S3I*G that's $hy you need to *ALE... until it's time /0*
to talk.
*hen she !roceeds slo$ly to gi"e me another incredible,
unforgettable kiss. It gets dee!er and hotter. I !ull back and look
around and then look at her and say DE"erybody is !robably saying
'*hose t$o should get a room'.D She laughs and says Des.D I say
D3ey, $e S307L6 get a room.D She says Des, $e S307L6 get
a room.D I say D0E.D She says D0E.D And then she =um!s u! and
grabs her coat so I =um! u! and grab my coat. I take her hand and
$e $alk Auickly to my car. We dri"e back to my !lace $here $e
s!end hours doing delightfully lurid things to each
other.
6a"id Shade
e+cellent ending and o"erall e+cellent !ost.
you do reali4e ho$e"er that you could ha"e &8ASSE6 the Dget
a drinkD idea.
don't take $omen LI*ERALL. she dro"e all that $ay to get
:7%EE6G not to ha"e an alcoholic be"erage. $hen she came to
your house, you should ha"e A) offered her a drink to get started
Dbefore you go to the barD. she $ould ha"e agreed. then, before
she finishes her drink...
DI ha"e $ritten a story to tell you.D She says D0h really( 0h my.
I $ould
lo"e to hear itGD
I begin reading the story.....
*his is a real $ebsite !ut u! by Ross Heffries to try to !icku!
$omen. *he te+t belo$ is the co"er !age, and is full of /L8 2see
glossary on this site), a $ay to use !sychology to !ick u! $omen..
*his 2and Ross's commentary in the ne+t link) is an e+cellent
e+am!le of the use of /L8 in seduction.
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*he original site is>$as at: htt!:>>$$$.introme.com F9aniac
Warning: Reading Contents May Arouse Intense Curiosity
And Fascination.
1ust Words On A Page?
6id you e"er instantly kno$ you $ere going to like and trust
someone for a long, long time(
9aybe you only kne$ them for a short $hile but it seemed that
you had kno$n them your $hole life, as if there $ere a timeless
connection bet$een you. As you read these $ords and remember
those ama4ing feelings, it's good to kno$ that sometimes life has a
$ay of making us remember those things,right !rior to disco"ering
that $e can e+!erience those feelings again...
With me...in my e+!erience, it's the kind of thing that can't be
forced and no essay or $ords can create it. Words and
a!!earances are only e+!ressions, the "ehicles that contain the
essence that mo"es us. It can only ha!!en naturally as the
e+!ression of an energy bet$een t$o !eo!le, but $hen it does...it's
=ust like that feeling of incredible bonding, $hen all the barriers
melt and dro! $ay, and t$o !eo!le come together, fused into one
s!iritual essence, the mingling of energies feeding one to the
other, building and increasing and intensifying, mingling into an
e+!ression of ali"eness that $ords can initiate but ne"er ca!ture
fully. It has instead to be indulged inside your o$n
imagination...d$elled on, contem!lated, e+!erienced, dee!,
dee! inside you.
I do not kno$ if you are the kind of !erson that can imagine
en=oying that that kind connection, $ith someone $onderful $ho
dee!ly mo"es you. &ut if you could en"ision the !ossibility and
feel it o!ening no$ before you, dra$ing you irresistibly for$ard,
ho$ !o$erfully could you feel that urge to read on and learn
more(
If these words have moved you...
*hen !erha!s you are the s!ecial, imaginati"e, funFlo"ing $oman
for me and !erha!s $e are already on the $ay to being able to
meet and feel a s!ecial connectionI a connection based not =ust on
-'-
getting $hat you $ant, but mo"ing beyond $hat you $ant into
$hat could dee!ly fulfill you.
9e...I am o!en to that s!ecial, ad"enturous, athletic , inFsha!e
$oman $ho can sho$ me she has a sense of !ur!ose to her life and
a sense of humor and !lay to her soul. A $oman, not a girl, $ho is
o!en to ne$ learning, indeed e"en thirsts
for it, but also has her o$n mind. A $oman $ho longs to share
$ith someone s!ecialI someone $ho $ill be her friend and lo"er,
!artner and ad"enturer, $ho $ill make each day together seem like
the first and each moment together filled $ith that sense of a
timeless and indescribable connection.
Do You Remember??
6o you remember $hen you $ere a little child and you $ent to
bed e+!ecting tomorro$ to be a rainy stormy day( &ut you $oke
u! the ne+t morning and to your delight and sur!rise, you looked
outto see a brightly shining sun, and not a cloud in
the sky( And you reali4ed, D3ey...this day is 9I/E to make
ha!!en(D Imagine sharing those feelings e"eryday $ith
someone $ho truly understands, along
$ith the !assions only adults can create and share.
More About Me...
I'm < foot ,, athletic>slender, dark hair ,dark eyes and I am "ery
!reFoccu!ied $ith
stimulating and intelligent con"ersationI $hile I lo"e tra"el I
belie"e the greatest ad"enture is to e+!lore one's !assions. I
define true !assion as not =ust lust in the moment...it's not e"en
$hen you are touched so dee!ly that you find you gi"e all that you
ha"e. It's $hen you are touched so dee!ly you find things coming
forth from you that you ne"er e"en kne$ or imagined could be
there. %an you feel that.....$ould be an ama4ing thing to
e+!erience $ith someone(
9E: I'm not a doctor or attorney but Auite successful selfFmade
entre!reneur in"ol"ed in the human !otential mo"ement, so you'll
learn lots from me about s!irit and mind as $ell as bodyG I must be
$ith someone ad"enturous $ho L0;ES to learn ne$ things and is
longing for an ama4ing ne$ direction. Someone $ho can decide on
-'.
her o$n $hat S3E uniAuely finds desirable, magneti4ing and
attracti"e based on her o$n dee! feelings and needs. /ot because
society $ould a!!ro"e. /ot because her friends $ould "alidate it.
/ot e"en because it is $hat she is used to or e+!ecting or based
on seeing her Dty!eD or $hat is Dty!icalD, because maybe $hat is
ty!ical hasn't really made you "ery ha!!y in the !ast. &ut because
she is ready...truly ready..for something beyond $hat she really
e"en thought could be !ossible. &ecause maybe feeling that
ama4ing o!ening is the link bet$een the girl inside the $oman,
and the $oman inside the girl.
What I Like...
I'm strongly into touching, and intense kissing2electricity)...that
first, soft brush of the li!s so soft you're not e"en sure you're
kissing yet, and it's as if all the !assion.. all the fire that $ill be
e+!erienced in the relationshi! is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
s!ecial kiss, =ust $aiting to be e+!lored and made real. It's that
moment $here time stands still and yet in that one moment, there
is an eternity of e+!erience to be e+!lored. It makes your knees
$eak and your heart soar and e"ery !art of you
comes...ali"e...a$akened...ready for $hate"er $ill come ne+t.
It's That Moment
It's that moment $hen you =ust sto!...and look dee! inside yourself
and you are able to !ush aside all the rules and restrictions that
hold you back...you find that you are free to look at your o$n
desires $ith eyes unclouded by the fears of others. ou can
look dee! inside and see that s!ecial !lace $here you kee! all your
secrets.
Inside is $hat you desire. ou can see your desires and $hen you
see your desires, you kno$ that $hat you $ant is right there
$aiting for you to act on your desire. /o$, $ith me...that's Auite a
!o$erful thing. When you see your desires clearly, maybe for the
first time, the e+citement and longing you feel is "ery strong.
*he e+citement of kno$ing you can fulfill these desires and
the longing of $anting to share that e+!erience $ith someone
$ho so understands ho$ you feel.
More For You...
-'5
I am $illing and able to learn from you =ust as I am $illing and
able to teach you many ne$ things. 9o"ing for$ard together in
life, longing for this ama4ing ne$ direction. :eeling totally
e+cited $ith !ermission to not only be $ho you are, but to
totally e+!lore and acce!t the !erson $ho is e"en /0W
emerging.
So if !erha!s you are this $oman, ,'F-C, $ith a touch of
!oetry in her soul 2and a bit of a naughty mind), then maybe
you can feel sur!rised at ho$ much you'd like to meet and learn
more.
8lease understand that looks are not enoughII truly seek a !erson
$ith a good, strong !hiloso!hy of life, a highFself esteem, a sense
of fun and ad"enture, a lo"e of life and learning and a great
imagination2so "ery im!ortantG). 8lease also ha"e a good sense of
humor and !lay, and a lo"e of allthings sensual2if your skill $ith
your li!s matches your luck $ith your looks then maybe $e
already ha"e something ama4ing in commonG)
Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?
Sometimes in life, $e get hurt and let our disa!!ointments or
!ast e+!eriences block us from holding out ho!e...ho!e that real
lo"e $ith real !eo!le can be !ossible. &ut behind all that...behind
all the cynicism and hurt...the letFdo$ns and the Dnot AuitesD is the
!art and the !erson $ho belie"es.*he one $ho belie"es in lo"e and
being lo"ed for $ho you are. As you listen to the message that
one is telling you right here, right no$.../0W $hat do you feel
=ust might be !ossible, if you reach out and make this yours(
Here Is Your Next Step To Take...
@ot !ics( Well...you sho$ me yours, I'll sho$ you mineD. /o
!ics( *hen don't askG I don't mind younger $omen2,'V) and ha"e
dated>en=oyed a fe$,but you younger gals, don't $rite me if you
can't sustain the e+citementI thrilled to be your teacher but not
looking to be a babysitterG So my !reference is ,BF-C, !leaseG 2If
you're hot and flo$ing $ith life, a fe$ years older $on't matter
eitherG) 8iAued your interest( @oodG 3o$ strong can you feel
that building before you RES80/6 A/6
E9AIL 9E at !aulOintrome.com
-'<
0f course, you don't ha"e to email me right a$ayI you might
$ant to take a fe$ minutes to feel the e+citement and antici!ation
or e"en read this !age o"er a fe$ times before you email me. *hen
you can look back on it and en=oy the satisfaction you feel as you
look for$ard to recei"ing my re!lyG
Greetings, Ladies!
/o$ that the DcatD is out of the bag about introme.com, I ha"e
decided, in my a$esome geneR0SSity to e+!lain it, !hrase by
!hrase, so that you befuddled children may learn to do E;E/
betterG
@AÈ 780/ 9 W0RES E &A&IES A/6
6ELI@3*G
6id you e"er instantly kno$ you $ere going to like and trust
someone for a
long, long time(
2 A sim!le use of languaging to get them to recall a feeling state
of trust so that e"erything else that follo$s is acce!ted and
acce!table)
9aybe you only kne$ them for a short $hile but it seemed that
you had kno$n them your $hole life, as if there $ere a timeless
connection bet$een you.
2A more detailed descri!tion to dee!en the e+!erience)
As you read these $ords and remember those ama4ing feelings,
2Linking ongoing beha"ior to feelings I $ish them to ha"e)
it's good to kno$ that sometimes life has a $ay of making us
remember those
things, right !rior to disco"ering that $e can e+!erience those
feelings again...
2 *he fact that she IS remembering these things is 8R00: that
she is about to e+!erience it again. She isn't e+!eriencing them
because she's reading the languaging..but because she's about to
e+!erience it againG It isn't a !roduction..it is an 09E/G A
8R00:G)
With me...in my e+!erience, it's the kind of thing that can't be
forced and no essay or $ords can create it.
-'B
2*herefore her feeling it is /0* because of the fact she's reading
something L0A6E6 $ith languagingG It 97S* be natural..and
therefore, not to be resistedG)
Words and a!!earances are only e+!ressions, the "ehicles that
contain the essence that mo"es us. It can only ha!!en naturally as
the e+!ression of an energy bet$een t$o !eo!le,
2Again, it isn't a 9A/I87LA*I0/ but a 6IS%0;ERG)
but $hen it does...it's =ust like that feeling of incredible bonding,
$hen all the barriers melt and dro! $ay, and t$o !eo!le come
together, fused into one s!iritual essence, 2more detailed
descri!tion to dee!en the state and the ambiguity of
Dcome togetherD begins the !rocess of se+uali4ing it)
the mingling of energies feeding one to the other, building and
increasing and intensifying, mingling into an e+!ression of
ali"eness that $ords can initiate but ne"er ca!ture fully.
23mmm..if W0R6S can't fully ca!ture it, then the only $ay for
her to get ALL the goodies..the E/*IRE cookie..is to 9AEE I*
REAL WI*3 A%*I0/SG)
It has instead to be indulged inside your o$n
imagination...d$elled on, contem!lated, e+!erienced, dee!, dee!
inside you.
2 I $ant her loo!ing on it....not =ust reading once and forgetting
it...)
I do not kno$ if you are the kind of !erson
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
2 A challenge..is S3E shar! enough...6EE8 enough...@006
enough()
that can imagine en=oying that that kind connection, $ith someone
$onderful $ho dee!ly mo"es you.
2commanding her to imagine it)2and note the ambiguity of
Dsomeone $onderfulD..W3I%3 someone()
&ut if you could en"ision the !ossibility and feel it o!ening no$
before you, dra$ing you irresistibly for$ard, ho$ !o$erfully
could you feel that urge to read on and learn more(
2linking the feelings to the beha"ior I $ant, $hich is EEE8
REA6I/@)
-'?
If these $ords ha"e mo"ed you...
*hen !erha!s you are the s!ecial, imaginati"e, funFlo"ing $oman
for me
and !erha!s $e are already on the $ay
28ER3A8S...in other $ords, SSSISSSS am not sure about
SSS07SSSS...SSS07SSSS must !ro"e yourself to SSS9ESSSS)
to being able to meet and feel a s!ecial connectionI a connection
based not =ust on getting $hat you $ant, but mo"ing beyond $hat
you $ant into $hat could dee!ly fulfill you.
2A33...this is good: the %0/*RAS* !rinci!le. Introducing the
idea that $hat she WA/*S isn't really $hat has dee!ly fulfilled
her and I/S*EA6...she must seek something elseG A!!eals to the
unmet need in "irtually E;ER $omanG And it is "ague enough
that S3E $ill fill in the blanks and ascribe the ans$er to that need
or needs as being...9E...and therefore guess $ho gets to 6E:I/E
*3A* :0R 3ER( 9EG)
9e...I am o!en to that s!ecial, ad"enturous, athletic , inFsha!e
$oman $ho can sho$ me she has a sense of !ur!ose to her life and
a sense of humor and !lay to her soul. 2Who can sho$ me....again,
S3E must meet 9 challengeG)
A woman, not a girl,
23mmm..A/0*3ER challenge: are you a girl or are you a
W09A/ $ho can decide
for herself $hat is attracti"e( 0r must you !ick someone the other
DgirlsD
$ould a!!ro"e of()
$ho is o!en to ne$ learning,indeed e"en thirsts for it, but also has
her o$n mind. A $oman $ho longs to share $ith someone s!ecialI
someone $ho $ill be her friend and lo"er, !artner and ad"enturer,
$ho $ill make each day together seem like the first and each
moment together filled $ith that sense of a timeless and
indescribable connection.
2dee!ening and returning to $hat she $ill e+!erience $ith me by
further descri!tion)
Do You Remember??
-'C
6o you remember $hen you $ere a little child and you $ent to
bed
e+!ecting tomorro$ to be a rainy stormy day(
2I'm aiming at doing a fe$ things here $ith this and the ne+t fe$
lines of languaging: I $ant to byF!ass the cynical adult $ho may
be reading this and ageFregress her to the little girl $ho can belie"e
in Dtrue lo"eD. And I'm going to use a uni"ersal e+!erience to do
so.....)
&ut you $oke u! the ne+t morning and to your delight and
sur!rise, you looked out to see a brightly shining sun, and not a
cloud in the sky( And you reali4ed,
D3ey...this day is 9I/E to make ha!!en(D
23ere I hel! her to reca!ture that feeling that anything can be
hers..to gi"e back the sense of !ossibility...M/0*E: $omen eat this
e+am!le u! in !erson as $ell..use it and see for yourselfG..they $ill
often %098LE*E the story for youG)
Imagine sharing those feelings e"eryday $ith someone $ho truly
understands, along $ith the !assions only adults can create and
share.
2*$o things: /o$ that she has the feeling, I get her to future !ace
en=oying it for a long, but uns!ecified time2e"eryday) and also I
am introducing combining this child like sense of $onder $ith
A67L* !assions..creating a /EW !ossibilityG *hus I demonstrate
I %A/ create ne$ feeling states in her..the "ery thing I am
claiming I %A/ do..so no$ she has an e+!erience of the claim
being trueG)
More About Me...
I'm < foot ,, athletic>slender, dark hair, dark eyes and I am
"ery !reFoccu!ied $ith stimulating and intelligent con"ersationI
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
(Another challenge: do you have a brain with the body and
face, honey,
or are you just a dumb bimbo!)
while I love travel I believe the greatest adventure is to explore
one's passions.
2Ah..contrasting e+terior tra"el $ith the I/WAR6 =ourneyG)
-,1
I define true !assion as not =ust lust in the moment 2She's
certainly ALREA6 had that before $ith 0*3ER guys..so she's
follo$ing along..)
It's not e"en $hen you are touched so dee!ly that you find you
gi"e all that you ha"e.
2Wo$..really( It's rare for her to e"en ha"e *3A*, but $hat this
guy is
offering is e"en 90RE( I @0**A EEE8 REA6I/@G)
It's $hen you are touched so dee!ly you find things coming forth
from you
that you ne"er e"en kne$ or imagined could be there.
2WhoaG ou mean lo"e $ith this guy $ill *RA/S:0R9 me into
someone ne$ and different( Let me feel things I /E;ER could
$ith anyone else( W0WG 3e's rare and s!ecialG)
%an you feel that.....$ould be an ama4ing thing to e+!erience $ith
someone(
2*elling her to feel it)
9E: I'm not a doctor or attorney but Auite successful selfFmade
entre!reneur in"ol"ed in the human !otential mo"ement, so you'll
learn lots from me about s!irit and mind as $ell as bodyG I must be
$ith someone ad"enturous $ho L0;ES to learn ne$ things and is
longing for an ama4ing ne$ direction.
2Some fluff and descri!tions of me....then I !ut in the demand that
she be $illing to learn ne$ things, $hich is *R7E and also yet
another challenge.
And then the ambiguity about A/ A9AÌ/@ /EW 6IRE%*I0/
2/76E ERE%*I0/)
Someone $ho can decide on her o$n $hat S3E uniAuely finds
desirable,
magneti4ing and attracti"e based on her o$n dee! feelings and
needs.
(Translation: if she DOESN'T find me attractive, it is because
she can't
think for herself! ANOTHER CHALLENGE! COUNT'EM,
LADIES!)
-,'
/ot because society $ould a!!ro"e. /ot because her friends $ould
"alidate
it. /ot e"en because it is $hat she is used to or e+!ecting or based
on
seeing her Dty!eD or $hat is Dty!icalD, because maybe $hat is
ty!ical
hasn't really made you "ery ha!!y in the !ast.
2A truism A/6 a !lay on $ords bet$een Dty!eD and Dty!icalD
that $ill 7**ERL destroy the Dnot my ty!eD ob=ectionG)
&ut because she is ready...truly ready..for something beyond
$hat she really e"en thought could be !ossible. &ecause maybe
feeling that ama4ing o!ening is the link bet$een the girl inside the
$oman, and the $oman inside the girl.
2A $ay of making her e"en more o!en to suggestion: if it is
beyond $hat she really e"en SSSSthoughtSSSS could be !ossible,
S3E cannot define it, and must acce!t things as SSSISSS structure
and define them. Acce!ting this creates a Dblank slateD of
suggestibility. *hen the ambiguity about an Dama4ing
o!eningD..do I mean Do!eningD as in ;agina or the act of o!ening
in$ardly.....!lus the languaging of linking the girl and the $oman
reca!tiulates the freedom of the child $ith the !o$er of the
adult..reinforcing the !re"ious state I e"okedG)
What I Like...
I'm strongly into touching, and intense kissing2electricity)...that
first, soft brush of the li!s so soft you're not e"en sure you're
kissing yet, and it's as if all the !assion.. all the fire that $ill be
e+!erienced in the relationshi! is enfolded in that one, first, soft,
s!ecial kiss, =ust $aiting to be e+!lored and made real 23ere I am
erotici4ing things but in an acce!table, !oetic $ay by d$elling on
that first, ama4ing kiss ...getting them to ha"e some nice body
feelings tooG Somatici4ing it to make it more, e"en 90RE "i"id
and REALG)
It's that moment $here time stands still and yet in that one
moment, there is an eternity of e+!erience to be e+!lored. It makes
your knees $eak and your heart soar and e"ery !art of you
-,,
comes...ali"e...a$akened...ready for $hate"er $ill come ne+t.
26ee!ening the state by more describingG)
It's That Moment
It's that moment $hen you =ust sto!...and look dee! inside
yourself and you are able to !ush aside all the rules and restrictions
that hold you back...you find that you
are free to look at your o$n desires $ith eyes unclouded by the
fears of others. ou can look dee! inside and see that s!ecial !lace
$here you kee! all your secrets. Inside is $hat you desire.
ou can see your desires and $hen you see your desires,you kno$
that $hat you $ant is right there $aiting for you to act on your
desire.
/o$, $ith me...that's Auite a !o$erful thing. When you see your
desires clearly, maybe for the first time, the e+citement and
longing you feel is "ery strong. *he
e+citement of kno$ing you can fulfill these desires and the
longing of $anting to share that e+!erience $ith someone $ho so
understands ho$ you feel.
2*his I confess I took from 0dious $ho used it in a A0L !rofile.
*he idea is to get her to look at her dee!est needs WI*307*
shame or fear and to feel !ermission to e+!lore this $ith that one,
S8E%IAL man...meG %redit $here credit is due, to 0dieG)
More For You...
I am $illing and able to learn from you =ust as I am $illing and
able to teach you many ne$ things. 9o"ing for$ard together in
life, longing for this ama4ing ne$ direction. :eeling totally e+cited
$ith !ermission to not only be $ho you are, but to totally e+!lore
and acce!t the !erson $ho is e"en /0W emerging.
2A3333...there's the rub....creating *W0 of her..the 0L6 her
$ith her Dfi+edD ideas of $hat is attracti"e, acce!table,
desirable..tasty..and the /EW her...$ho she $ill disco"er through
acce!ting 9 suggestions, feeling totally ali"e $ith the
8ER9ISSI0/S SSSISSS @RA/* 3ERG)
So if !erha!s you are this $oman, ,'F-C, $ith a touch of !oetry in
her soul 2and a bit of a naughty mind), then maybe you can feel
sur!rised at ho$ much you'd like to meet and learn more.
-,-
2*hen again, she may not be sur!rised at ALL at ho$ much she
$ants to meet and learn moreG)
8lease understand that looks are not enoughI I truly seek a !erson
$ith a good, strong !hiloso!hy of life, a highFself esteem, a sense
of fun and ad"enture, a lo"e of life and learning and a great
imagination2so "ery im!ortantG).
2All '11Y totally true reAuirements of mine and also 90RE tests
for 3ER to !assG If she res!onds at all, S3E'S A%%E8*E6
SS9SS :RA9E *3A* I 3A;E SE* *3A* SSSISSS am the
!ri4e and S3E must $ork for 9EG)
8lease also ha"e a good sense ofhumor and !lay, and a lo"e of
all things sensual2if your skill $ith your li!s matches your luck
$ith your looks then maybe $e already ha"e something ama4ing
in commonG)
2A bit of boasting here by asking if S3E can gi"e as good oral as
I can...)
Does This Sound Too Good To Be True?
Sometimes in life, $e get hurt and let our disa!!ointments or !ast
e+!eriences block us from holding out ho!e...ho!e that real lo"e
$ith real !eo!le can be !ossible.
20k...right about no$, I $ant to destroy>innoculate against the
D*his is too good to be true ob=ectionD...so I ;ER&ALL 8A%E
I* :IRS*.....this is usually a great match for $hat she is thinking
and so it A66S to the !o$er of $hat I ha"e been doingG Wo$G 3E
7/6ERS*A/6SG Ladies: ;ER&ALL 8A%E 3ER 0/@0I/@
REALI*, &0*3 EQ*ER/AL A/ I/*ER/AL A/6 07
%A/ 80WER:7LL I//0%7LA*E A@AI/S* A/
80SSI&LE 0&HE%*I0/S A/6 I/S*EA6 7SE *3E9 *0
0;ERW3EL9I/@L I/%REASE RA880R*GGGG *3IS
8RI/%I8LE WILL 9AEE 07 A REAL D87AD I/S*EA6 0:
07 WA//AF&E @I/À &A&IESG)
&ut behind all that...behind all the cynicism and hurt...the letF
do$ns and the Dnot AuitesD is the !art and the !erson $ho belie"es.
(Ahhh...the fact that part of her may not believe is only
PROOF that there
-,.
IS a deeper and MUCH more willing part! The doubt you
WERE feeling is the
VERY reason AND signal to go inside and BELIEVE
TOTALLY!)
*he one $ho belie"es in lo"e and being lo"ed for $ho you are.
As you listen to the message that one is telling you right here, right
no$.../0W $hat do you feel =ust might be !ossible, if you reach
out and make this yours(
2%reate or reFenergi4e that !art and she $ill, from this alone, feel
so $onderful, ali"e and /EW that she'll $ant to =um! ya out of
sheer gratitude and ho$ great she feels...note also the command
into A%*I0/..dont' =ust feel it, but Dreach out and make this
yours..by follo$ing the instructions in the ne+t !aragra!hG So I
gi"e the command and then the s!ecifics of W3A* *0 60G)
Here Is Your Next Step To Take...
@ot !ics( Well...you sho$ me yours, I'll sho$ you
mineD.
/o !ics( *hen don't askG I don't mind younger $omen2,'V) and
ha"e dated>en=oyed a fe$, but you younger gals, don't $rite me if
you can't sustain the e+citementI thrilled to be your teacher but not
looking to be a babysitterG
2I'm 6ES*R0I/@ the age ob=ection by telling the youngsters,
D3E..60/'*
WAS*E SS9SSS time DgirlsD unless you can be a W09A/ $ith
meG)
So my !reference is ,BF-C, !leaseG 2If you're hot and flo$ing $ith
life, a
fe$ years older $on't matter eitherG) 8iAued your interest( @oodG
3o$
strong can you feel that building before you RES80/6 A/6
E9AIL 9E at !aulOintrome.com
2Link the feeling *0 *3E A%*I0/G *3E 97S* *AEEG)
0f course, you don't ha"e to email me right a$ayI you might
$ant to take a fe$ minutes to feel the e+citement and antici!ation
or e"en read this !age o"er a fe$ times before you email me.
-,5
2 A false choice...do $hat I $ant no$ or $ait a fe$ minutes and
60 W3A* I WA/*G)
*hen you can look back on it and en=oy the satisfaction you feel as
you look for$ard to recei"ing my re!lyG
2:uture !ace them feeling great ALREA6 3A;I/@ A%*E6G)
@ot it, ladies( /ot a $ord $asted and all fineFcrafted. And ALL
of this language can be used in other conte+ts and formats.
Wirrele"ant stuff deletedX
Good sample pickup patterns from Vincent and Thomas
*o the @rou!:
*his idea came from a !ost on the 9indList about s!eaking
admiringly about someone else and linking that admiration to
yourself. Some of the te+t is from a !ost by the 9an 3imself. *he
idea here is to s!eak admiringly, $ith real emotion, $hile you link
the things you admire to yourself:
I $as talking $ith a buddy of mine do$n in /%. 3e's a real
natural charmer Ws!X, $ho =ust kno$s all the $ays to get really
close to you almost instantaneously.
3e really has all those abilities in abundance Ws!X. 0f course,
he's got an edge, in that he $as born charming. Women ha"e liked
him since he
$as a baby, but it's more than that. 3e genuinely likes $omen and
ne"er tries to bamboo4le them into doing something they ha"en't
already thought of doing themsel"es Wnote ambiguityX. 3e =ust gets
them laughing, sho$s a real interest in them as !eo!le, not =ust 3ot
&abes, and finds out $hat's going on dee! inside them. 3e
Wdra$ing gestureX dra$s out their hidden desires, things their best
friends don't e"en kno$. 3e really makes them feel Ws!X all the
dee! feelings they may ha"e su!!ressed all their li"es. *his is a
real !leasure W!thX for them, so different than all the other guys W!t.
a$ayX $ho sho$ed they $ere =ust looking for a chance to get laid.
/o$, $ith me, creating an incredible connection $ith a $oman
like that is $ay
beyond =ust thinking about hot, naked se+ Wdick!ointX.
3e =ust demonstrates to her that he is different and that her life
$ill be $orse off if he is not in it. I think that kno$ing he doesn't
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need you, e"en if W!thX you need him, makes you reali4e he could
get sna!!ed u! by another $oman $ho $as more $illing to =um!
his bones right no$. As you think about it like that, feeling a
!assion and surrender you might ha"e ne"er felt before Wtouch
anchorX, you might become an+ious about losing the chance to
e+!ress it. *his guy Ws!X may sim!ly lose interest in you if you
can't gi"e back some of the !leasure Wdick!ointX he makes you feel.
*he really great thing about this guy is, e"en if he only has the
chance to ha"e a fling $ith a $oman, she has an e+!erience W!thX
she'll remember for the rest of her life. 3e gi"es her something to
cherish and Wdick!ointX hold on to e"en $hen he's no longer there.
It's like he reaches her Ws!X dee!er than any man e"er has, and
more im!ortant than !hysically, W!thX she has to go dee! inside and
bring herself out and !resent herself to him as a gift. She entrusts
him $ith dee! secrets that she hasn't shared $ith anyone, e"er. 3e
!leases her Ws!X so much that she $ants to gi"e him !leasure
Wdick!ointX ho$e"er he deri"es !leasure.
And you kno$, it doesn't seem to matter if he's her 'ty!e'. As far
as I can tell, the true $onder for a $oman doesn't come $hen she
hooks u! $ith a man $ho is her Dty!eD W!t. a$ayX. A man $ho
society WstackX or her folks WstackX or her friends WstackX $ould
a!!ro"e of WstackX, or $ho she's used to WstackX, or $ho is ty!ical
WstackX for her to be attracted to. *he true $onder is $hen she is
carried beyond all that by a man Ws!X $ho touches her in so many
mysterious $ays that she ne"er e"en imagined she could be
touched and she e+!eriences W!thX true !assion..$hich is not
tem!orarily being turned on in the moment..it's not e"en $hen she
finds she gi"es all that she has..but $hen she is touched Wtouch
'!assion Z surrender' anchorX so !rofoundly that she disco"ers
things $ithin her that she didn't e"en kno$ $ere there.
0nce that ha!!ens, her thoughts start mo"ing in, hmmm, a
$hole ne$ direction $ith Ws!X this guy. She =ust finds her o$n
reasons for $anting this to continue and figures out $hat ste!s to
take ne+t. /o$, I don't kno$ if you can imagine feeling like that
yourself. :or me, that instantaneous connection $ith someone is
-,B
$orth $orking for F and I think that's an understanding that $orks
both $ays.
/o$, maybe you can ans$er a Auestion for me: What is it about
curious !eo!le that makes them S0 attracti"e( 2big e"il grin) W$ait
fror laughX ou kno$, I can tell you're a $oman $ith great taste F
because you laugh at $hat I say. And the more you laugh at $hat I
say, the more you'll recogni4e =ust ho$ attracti"e you find that
W$ait for laugh, touch '!assion Z surrender' anchorX. See, =ust like
thatG
:eel free to comment, flame, borro$ all or !art.
Sincerely,
;ince
Subject: Re: The MrSex4uNYC pattern
*o the @rou!:
*his idea came from a !ost on the 9indList about s!eaking
admiringly about someone else and linking that admiration to
yourself. Some of the te+t is from a !ost by the 9an 3imself. *he
idea here is to s!eak admiringly, $ith real emotion, $hile you link
the things you admire to yourself:
nice !attern ;ince :) I $as feeling good about 9SEL: $hen I
read itG
hahahaha I'm S7RE this $ould $ork on the $omen... let us kno$
$hat ha!!ens.
8S F /0 it is not a nice !attern because it talks about 9E... it is a
nice !attern because it is $ritten in /A*7RAL E/@LIS3
LA/@7A@E and has good embedded
commands and carries good feelings to the listener... I think it is a
$ellFcrafted !attern and should be "ery successful... that is for
those !eo!le that LIEE to use !atterns :)
good =ob
Subject: 'Trance Induction' followed by THE KNOCK OUT
3i
I asked a Auestion about stacking realities and got some great
ans$ers F thanksGG
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*here's also another $ay of o"erloading the conscious,
right...sentence fragmentsG As I understands it...it is...a $ay
of...deli"ering a lot of...facts $ith a lot of...!auses.
And again there's another trance induction method F storytellingGG
Hust telling a story $ith a lot of sensory in!ut. *his $ill acti"ate
the right side of the brain.
So this is my formula:
'. 0"erloading consciousness
a) Sentence fragments F $ith /0 sensory in!ut 2it shall be hard to
follo$).
b) Stacking realities
,. Storytelling 2telling about an e+!erience you had $ith someone
else for instance).
-. *he EnockFoutG
a) 7sing Auotes
b) 6escribing another !ersons e+!erience
c) 6escribing a !rocess F of falling in lo"e for instance Etc.
So it could work by this:
DI ha"e this friend...Eim...and $e are good friends...She li"es not
so far a$ay, by the $ay...and she has this littleFsister,
6arleen..."ery s$eet actually...She goes to some s!ort...can't
remember $hat it is...and I ha"e met her trainer...a "ery fine
$oman. Actually I sa$ her once on the street, $here she send me a
big smile. It $as a sunny day, the birds $as singing, and she $as
dressed so nicely, as if she $as to EQ8E%* S09E0/E @REA*
8ERS0/ to "isit her. So I $ent o"er the street, and $e began to
talk. Walking do$n the street, s$allo$ed u! in the con"ersation,
the sounds around us began fading. It $as so easy to :EEL @006
in this com!any. We got home to her, and she began !laying the
!iano for me. E"er heard the sound of great !ianoFmusic( And
there $as this nice smell in the room of fresh flo$ers, and there
$as a $armth
that could touch you so dee!ly inside. %an you :EEL *3A*...
2touch her)...$ould be such a $onderful thing to e+!erience. And
the music $ra!!ing its gentle arms around you, to the !oint $here
you could =ust LE* @0 in 07R 9I/E, and :EEL *3A* ha!F
-,C
8E/IS, !enetrating so dee!. I don't kno$ if you can :EEL
*3A*...no$ $ith me...that $as such a delighful e+!erience...D
Any comments on this !attern or the trance induction method(
Regards,
An excellent film to learn seduction / NLP : Witches of
Eastwick
Sub=ect: a$esome mo"ies for SS'ers
3i,
It $as me that !ut u! the original !ost about the Witches of
East$ick as an /L8>seduction resource. Its a good film, seriously,
you $ill learn ho$ to a!!ly /L8 in real life from it, Hack
/icholson does a good =ob, and his /L8 routines are "ery
belie"able and a!!licable in real life situations. 3e's also got the
attitude and tonality do$n !erfect too..go $atch it, !ersonally, I
kee! a co!y at home. IF)
Re: list of good mo"ies, I can !ut this on my site once I get a list.
I am looking for films C or abo"e on the /L8 scale 2I agree,
Witches of East$ich is a '1 about). I also heard 9atri+ is good,
but ha"ent seen it yet 2=ust came out in *okyo this $eek... )
9aniac
I also rented DWitches of EastwickD after seeing it here. I sa$ the
mo"ie years ago, but this time, a!!roaching it from a little
kno$ledge, I $as "ery im!ressedG
6on Huan 6e9arco $as also recently mentioned. I rented it
because of the recommendation, and $as blo$n a$ay. *here
$ere Auite a fe$ lines from that
one $orth kno$ing.
"StraplessD had some interesting stuff in it, maybe a <FB on the
scale.
0ne of the !eo!le $ith a $eb !age should kee! a list, or it should
be added
to the :AL. It has a good return for ne$bies, in that reading the
one line of a title can lead to $atching a $hole mo"ie $ith good
shit.
Liberty
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Male aggression as a female
aphrodesiac.
I $ant to tie together se"eral threads, including 9aniac's
Earatebabe, Rio's e+FL*R's confusion o"er $hy she's not attracted
to the nice guys, the D6omestic 6isci!lineD materials that
ste"ie$onder alerted us to, and $hy 6r. 0$l is unlikely 2in my
o!inion) to find the ha!!y marriage he $ants unless he becomes a
87A first.
&ig !oint: male aggression is the biggest trigger for female lust.
And it's a $hole lot more im!ortant than luuuu"" or looks or
money.
Without occasional demonstrations of manly aggression, $omen
lose their lust and marriages go flat.
Some $omen need bigger dis!lays of aggression than others to
res!ect and lust for their man. *here are $omen for $hom a man's
DconfidenceD and the ability to face do$n occasional shit tests are
enough. *hen there are $omen like the one @reg described, $ho
need to be "iolently abused to get that lusty feeling of ha"ing a real
man. 2DWhy do you al$ays go back to him(D /o$ you kno$.)
%onfidence ain't al$ays enough.
&ig !roblem is, society conceals the connection. Society tells us
a lie: that lo"e is $hat makes a $oman $ant to ha"e se+ $ith a
guy. /obody ackno$ledges ho$ aggression fires the female loins
2not e+!licitly any$ay) F and so Rio's e+ is com!letely
dumbfounded that her body isn't going along $ith her e+!ectations
of $hat kind of guy she should $ant. *he aggression connection is
so $ell concealed by society, I'm embarrassed to say I li"ed almost
three decades before I learned it. 9y first inkling came, of all
!laces, from reading the first @et Laid /e$sletter on
$$$.seduction.com.
I should ha"e clued in a decade earlier. I $as nai"e and "ery
nice then, and my first lo"er nagged me incessantly. 0ne day, I
finally sna!!ed and started yelling at her. And $hat did she do(
--'
She smiledG A huge bigFass smile, and looked ha!!ier than I'd
e"er seen her. 7nfortunately, I didn't !ick u! the clue and re!eat
the
!erformance. 3er res!onse contradicted e"erything I Dkne$D
about romantic relationshi!s, so I =ust didn't make the connection.
0"er ten years later, it finally makes sense to me: she needed a
guy $ho gets angry at her bullshit, =ust like 9aniac's Earatebabe.
All the $ords of her nagging $ere meaninglessI she =ust $anted to
!ro"oke a dis!lay of anger. 2She also liked to be dominated and
used in bedI I did manage to do a little of that.)
Since I read Ross' newsletter - which shocked me by showing
you can
make a woman want you by aggressively resisting her rudeness
F I'"e been trying to understand ho$ the connection bet$een male
aggression and female lust !lays out. 0ne e+am!le: $e use a.s.f
techniAues, and $omen get horny. &ut it's also interesting to look
at ho$ things !lay out in marriages.
*urns out that t$o !sychothera!ists, @eorge &ach and 3erb
@oldberg, understood the connection "ery $ell in the early B1's
$hen they $rote D%reati"e AggressionD 2out of !rint). In the book,
they talk about getting s!ouses to interact aggressi"ely $ith each
other and
stand u! to each other, and ho$ it can restore failing marriages.
*hey also mention that cou!les that are al$ays too DniceyFniceyD
in bed ine"itably see the !assion disa!!ear. I'll !ost a !iece shortly
about Robin Skynner, $ho does cou!les thera!y 2$ith his $ife) in
$hich he brings the cou!le to Da serious confrontation, often
in"ol"ing _a brief e!isode of "iolence'.... *his is a turning !oint in
a relationshi! $hich had !re"iously been characterised by the
$oman backing off for fear of hurting the man. 0nce the $oman
finds that she can attack the man and that he $ins, this is a
liberating e+!erience for the $oman.D
Women $ant to E/0W that you're stronger than themG *hat
they can count on your resol"eG *hat they don't need to !rotect
you from themsel"esG Women don't fuck their children, after all.
--,
When ste"ie$onder made his first !ost about 6omestic
6isci!line, I immediately checked out the $eb !ages related to it
2htt!:>>otk.first!r.com.au>0*EF'CC<F'CCC>) and subscribed to
'3ousehold6isci!line at egrou!s. *his stuff adds a $hole ne$
t$ist. Some 2many() $omen need their man to make a sho$ of his
greater strength F through dominion and e"en s!anking F or the
marriage flounders. I'm going to !ost a cou!le of bits that one
$oman !osted to the list, =ust to gi"e you an idea of ho$ $omen
e+!erience it. es, her freAuency of se+ $ent $ay u!.
ste"ie$onder says:
*his doesn't seem to be a se+ual fetish issue. It seems to be a
security>emotional issue.
es, that's e+actly right...but $ithout the domestic disci!line, her
se+ dri"e goes a$ay. Male aggression Female lust.
A thought for you, 6r. 0$l, and anyone else on this board $ho
ho!es to marry someday: I think you $ill ha"e to reconcile
yourself to the fact that you must learn to !ass a $oman's shit tests,
dis!lay occasional aggression, and al$ays ha"e her con"inced that
you can
lea"e her and find another $oman the moment she goes too far R
or your marriage $ill not last. /o, the shit tests ne"er end, not
e"en after years of marriage. So may I suggest you become a 87A
first, and $hen you ha"e that do$n cold, then you can figure out
$hom to marry(
0h, and damn society for lying to us all.
BAIT AND SWITCH TECHNIQUE
An item is ad"ertised at an unbelie"ably lo$ !rice at a sho!.
*he ob=ecti"e is to encourage the customer to enter the sho!Js
!remises $ith an intention to !urchase.
*he customer is therefore &AI*E6.
In the sho! the customer is ad"ised that the !articular item is ano
longer in stockJ or anot really good any$ayJ and his attention is
SWI*%3E6 to another higherF!riced item, often of an inferior
brand.
---
*he merits of the substitute are !romoted as the customer is
encouraged to make the !urchase.
In"ariably, this trick $orks, and the customer is &AI*E6 and
SWI*%3E6 before he is e"en a$are of $hat is really ha!!ening.

How To Avoid Being Trapped
By the BAIT and SWITCH Technique:-

&e$are of !ersuasi"e ad"ertisements $hich claim that !rices
are unbelie"ably lo$.
&e$are of false claims of a agolden o!!ortunity] or the
$arning that it is your alast
chanceJ to get in on a good bargain.

6o not buy im!ulsi"ely. In"estigate $hether you are
getting a bargain by
com!aring the !rice and Auality of the item $ith those in other
sho!s.

6o not be sideFtracked from your budget. *ake your time,
e+amine your o!tions
and make u! your mind carefully.

Bait and switch is a techniAue most often associated $ith the
retail industry but is also a fa"orite of mani!ulati"e !oliticians. In
ad"ertising this in"ol"es using a lure, such as a lo$F!riced item, as
bait to get a !erson into the store, then trying to sell the !erson a
higher !riced item because the other item is either DoutFofFstockD
or Dof inferior Auality.D *he key is that there $as ne"er any
intention to sell the lo$erF!riced itemI it $as only used as bait to
sell more e+!ensi"e items. While the techniAue is illegal in retail in
the 7.S, it still occurs fairly freAuently.
In !olitics there are no la$s s!ecifically forbidding the use of bait
and s$itch techniAues and they are used often in a "ariety of $ays.
*his includes selling bills at much lo$er costs than realistically
--.
!ossible and falsely !ositioning candidates so that they a!!ear to
be acce!table to grou!s that $ould not other$ise endorse them.
&ait and s$itch is one of the many !ro!aganda tactics used "ery
effecti"ely by the @.W &ush administration. *he e+am!les seem to
be endless but here are a fe$ of the more notable: the D/o %hild
Left &ehindD Act, touted as a means of im!ro"ing schools and
education $as then gi"en insufficient funds to carry out its
mandateI Alan @reens!an initially claimed that the ta+ cuts that
most benefited the $ealthiest Americans $ould not affect Social
Security, yet no$ that the bill has been has been !assed, the
economist $ho clearly kne$ better is saying that Social Security
benefits $ill ha"e to be
cutW'X 2http1MMwww.dai$ystar.comMdai$ystarMopinionM>22J2.php)I
and the 9edicare 8rescri!tion 6rug 8rogram $as !assed by
%ongress at an estimated cost of N.11 billion, $hen it $as already
kno$n by the &ush administration that the cost $ould more likely
be around N551 billion F a sum much less likely to be acce!table to
%ongress.
&ait and s$itch is a ty!e of fraud or dece!tion.
Bait-and-switch
Description
0ffer them something that a!!ears to be "ery good "alue. *his
should be a real bargain, an offer they can't !ossibly refuse, e"en if
they $ere not thinking about it.
Later, re!lace the item $ith something of less "alue to them 2and
more !rofit to you).
Example
A car sales sho$room !uts a basic car outside $ith a "ery lo$
!riceFtag. 0nce the customer is interested, the sales !erson trades
them u! to a more e+!ensi"e model.
3ou$d you $ike to o out to this rea$$y expensive restaurant% ... 'h
dear, it's #ooked up. 9ever mind, we can o to the usua$ p$ace.
Discussion
When the !erson sees the initial item of high "alue they
cogniti"ely close on the idea of acAuiring it and hence *he early
--5
bait thus mo"es them from a negati"e !osition to one of
commitment.
When the high "alue item is remo"ed, then they enter a state of
an+iety in $hich they seek to reFenter the comfortable closed state.
*hey thus seek to satisfice, acce!ting almost any solution that $ill
get them back to that comfortable state.
*here may also be an element of commitment to the !erson
making the offer. If I offer something to you, you feel some
obligation to me. If I then s$itch the offer, es!ecially if the
s$itching seems reasonable, then you are likely to acce!t the
second offer out of a sense of obligation to me. *o do other$ise
$ould e+!ose myself as inconsistent and break bonding bet$een
us.
Although common in sales, this method $as first researched by
Houle, @ouillou+, and Weber 2'C?C), $ho called it the $ure
procedure. *hey in"ited students to $atch interesting film cli!s
2and hence got a lot of "olunteers), but then s$itched the task to
memori4ing lists of numbers. In the control grou! that $as =ust
asked to hel! by memori4ing numbers 2no initial filmFcli! offer),
only '5Y agreed, as o!!osed to .BY $ho had been first offered
the filmFcli! e+!eriment.
*he bait and s$itch techniAue is a 'seAuential reAuest'.
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