SPECIAL POINTS

OF INTEREST:
Herbie`s Life
Good-bye and Thanks
to Ray, Duke, Bonn &
Ted.
The Roseland Spitfire:
Hangar upgrade and
other progress.
Introducing Mike.
Some Military History
O N P R O U D W I N G S
T H E C OMOX
V A L L E Y A I R
F O R C E
MU S E U M
A S S OC I A T I O N
N E WS L E T T E R
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I NS I DE THI S
I S S UE :
H E R B L I G H T F O O T 1 - 2
T H E P R E S I D E N T S 2
T H A N K S F O R T H E
ME MO R I E S
3 - 4
T H E MA N A G E R S 5
R E C E N T E V E N T S 5
N E W ME MB E R S 6
C O MI N G E V E N T S 6
THE BOARD`S NOTES 7
T H E S P I T F I R E 8
E D I T O R I A L 8
MI K E B A R N U C Z 9
H I S T O R I C A L S N I P -
P E T S
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FUN FARE 12
CVAFMA 13
NOTICES
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15
OK, whadda ya wanna know? enquired
Herbie. Such was a most direct reply to my sug-
gestion on doing this vignette. Coming from one
of our most colourful characters in the entire
museum, this meant we were off to a good start!
Attempting to match his directness, I asked for
some of the stories on his life in aviation, plus
any other such stuff that would explain why he
ended up far from home and here in Comox. I
was interested in how aviation had bitten him,
if it related at all to his farm life in Saskatchewan
and anything else about him. And, so it went.
Born into a rural Saskatchewan upbringing,
Herbie signed up with the RCAF in Saskatoon at a
young age in 1955. He had first gone to Evington
School in Eldersley and then on to Tisdale High,
10 miles west, for grades 9 and 10. After that,
I said to myself, I know enough now and its time
to get started. He began work with a local
farmer, soon became curious about the RCAF,
even though he had not been exposed to aircraft
or aviation of any kind, heard about an RCAF
recruiting drive, went into Saskatoon and joined
up. The air forces timing was right for me and
so I went, he recalled. Now, that was in Octo-
ber, 1955 and the very same
night I caught a train to St. Jean
de Richelieu, Quebec for my
basic training. After Christmas
and New Year's, I was sent to
camp Borden to apprentice as
an aero engine technician.
In 1956, Herbie was posted to RCAF Station
Penhold, working on Harvards and Expeditors.
Penhold was then tasked with training cadets
and new pilots. Students came from all over
Canada as well as from
Britain, Germany and a
number of other countries.
Married to Mavis by this
time, they were then
posted to RCAF Station Trenton where Herbie
worked on the reliable, if very noisy, merlin-
engined Canadair North Star acquired by the
RCAF. This aircraft put the RCAF Air Transport
Group on the map at the same time as its
eventual replacement, the Canadair CL-44 (the
RCAFs CC-106 Yukon), was now being assessed
for similar service. After three months in Tren-
ton, in 1962, Herbie and Mavis moved with the
North Stars to RCAF Sta-
tion St. Hubert in Longeuil,
Montral. This was a
posting to the Central
Experimental and Proving
Establishment (CEPE),
attached to No. 426 (T)
Squadron.
St. Hubert was also well positioned for long-
distance heavy transport flight assignments. As
it turned out, the Yukon performed better than
expected and soon took over most long-distance
heavy transportation work from the North Stars.
Shortly after that, 426 Sqn was disbanded and
Herbie was sent with CEPE to RCAF Station
Uplands, Ottawa, along with one North Star, for
imminent proving work on the newly acquired
CC-115 Buffalo for transport and rescue tasking.
It was here that the Buffalo began to exhibit
some engine flame-out problems under certain
conditions and CEPE was tasked to resolve it.
Other proving trials were also being carried out in
Uplands by CEPE such as testing the CF-100s
Solar Mars defence radar system by littering its
flight path with metal chaff. Identical trials were
later carried out on the CF-104, but after CEPE
had moved to RCAF Station Cold Lake.
The flame-out problem showed up when the
Buffalo first came into the service 47 years ago.
It occurred in certain air conditions and was test-
ed by flying the Buffalo at high
altitude through streams of
water dropped by other aircraft
flying ahead. As Herbie tells it,
After airborne monitoring and
data collection, from Uplands
and Churchill for the cold
weather trials and from Ed-
wards AFB, California for the
hot weather trials, we saw that
the flame-outs were being
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Since my last report a lot has happened in our Association. Firstly, we greatly regret
having lost three of our members, Ray Webber, Duke Warren and Ted Dennis who have
passed away. Meanwhile Len, who went to hospital in Victoria recently for heart surgery,
has recovered nicely back home in Comox.
We welcome a good number of new members and volunteers and look forward to
such trends continuing. Of our new volunteer members: Corinne Bainard helps with the
CVAFMA board minutes, amongst other tasks; Blythe Reimer helps Geoff with the maga-
zines section, Maggie helps with general duties on Saturdays and Shea Baldwin is learn-
ing the ropes in the main museum, gift shop, museum and library. She is also looking for-
ward to helping complement her present NIC studies on old war history.
I know the AGM is a long way off; but, as we may not have another newsletter before
then, I would like members to seriously think about running for election to the Board of
Directors to fill one or two vacancies and add more skills to our complement.
At the end of November John Low, our 19 Wing Heritage Officer retired. His gain in
pursuing new interests is our loss and we wish him and Amanda the very best for the fu-
ture.
Johns successor has been chosen and will be known to us early in the New Year.
I wish you all a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy & Prosperous 2012. Don
THE PRESIDENT'S
PODIUM
roof of the entry ducting into its turboprop engines.
A CC-130 Hercules tanker was adopted for water releases
after they had unsuccessfully tried a Boeing 707 tanker at the
Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio. In order for us to keep up with the
707 it had to fly with full flaps on and engines one and four set
to idle. Herbie recalls, When we flew into a water stream, it was
like hitting a brick wall and we just couldnt match up to the
707s performance. So, the Hercules was permanently adopted
for these trials. To record our observations of the engine duct,
we rigged up a mirror on a 4 foot length of 3 pipe, backed with a
tripod to hold it all in front of the engine outside a port window.
Here, we could view and film the airflow from the beginning of
the intake up to the compressor shaft of the turbine.
During a flight over the Edwards base we had a nearly
disastrous outcome. The water stream entered the intake in the
usual way, causing one of the best flame-outs we would
simulate. When I jumped up to tell the co-pilot to shut off that
engines fuel supply, the problem happened. He shut off the
good starboard engine instead of the port engine. There and
then we were in a spontaneous glide. At 20,000 feet we at least
had the ability to dive and try to get one or both of the engines
restarted. In the very thin air above this base nothing happened
until we had dived through about 10,000 feet. Then, the
starboard engine started up again and we restarted the port
engine to climb back up to 20,000 feet and do more. There was
a huge sigh from within the aircraft!
The positive thing about this particular flight was that, de-
spite vibrations and bending of the mirror mounting under the
velocity pressure, the photo tech had acquired exceptional
images of the flame-out. It provided a lot of data that ultimately
enabled the engineers from Trenton to figure out a solution.
CEPE then moved to Cold Lake, where Herbie was promoted
to Flight Engineer, and soon came under the name of the Aero-
nautical Evaluation and Test Establishment (AETE), tasked on
evaluation of new aircraft and avionics systems with the Dakota,
Twin Huey helicopter and the Kiowa Scout helicopter. AETE
continues to operate out of CFB Cold Lake today, on engineering
evaluations of the airworthiness and operational effectiveness of
the Air Force's aerospace systems.
From Cold Lake, Herbie went for Argus training at CFB Green-
wood and flew as Flt. Eng. on the Argus aircraft, from CFB
Comox. Its not hard to imagine why he ended up in Comox as a
retiree volunteer with a dedicated team fixing up old aircraft and
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T H A N K S F O R T H E M E M O R I E S
The past few months have brought us much sadness in the passing of Ray Webber, Duke
Warren, Bonn Svensson and Ted Dennis, a private man. Each supplied a lot of energy towards
keeping the museum viable and they are missed by one and all.
To live in the hearts we leave behind is not to die. ~ Thomas Campbell
It was my life, Ray said at the June 14, 2011 Volunteer Recognition Event at the 19 Wing OM. This history is some-
thing that should be viewed by the public, by those in the military to look back on and by the younger generation.

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Bonn Svensson was born in Eskilstuna Sweden in 1947. Drafted into the Swedish
Air force at 18, he served the required 15 months gaining an interest in airplanes. He
trained as an auto body repair man for a number of years in Sweden and then moved to
Canada in 1973. He eventually gravitated to the aviation industry, working in various
places throughout Canada.
He moved to the Comox valley in the late 90s and started with the Y2-K
Spitfire project in the summer of 2000. Bonn often spoke of how proud he
was to have been selected to head up fabrication on such an historic Canadian
aircraft.
Bonn passed away at St Josephs Hospital in Comox on Oct. 19, 2011.

The time, cheer-
fulness, humour
and inspiration that
he showed to the Museum
over many years and his love
of literature is what the rest of us
might emulate.
We will continue.
Duke had
a profound and
lasting impact on
the Association
members and Muse-
um volunteers alike.
His life of leadership, an
inspiration to the community as a
whole, provided a shine to the Museum .
He is missed.

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Well, Christmas time is often the
time for reflection and looking at the
past year, but this Christmas I am
looking ahead to 2012.
I am extremely optimistic about our
Museum, for these reasons:
Personnel-wise, our volunteer strength has grown with
Corinne, Blythe, Maggie and Shea all finding a home
with us.
On the CF side, we will see the Capt. John Low Re-
placement Program deliver a new Museum Director
by late-February.
Several displays have just been updated:
442 Sqn, VU 33 and Air Demonstrations Teams
all look great (thanks to many hands during a
busy week).
For 2012 we will continue with upgrades to: WW2
on the West Coast, the POW experience, key
aviation personalities and NORAD.
We will see changes in the Air Park:
Hopefully, our Snowbird will be "on a stick" at
the North Vancouver Island Discovery Centre;
We will resolve the Vampire Display issue.
And, finally, we might have a bright yellow CMP truck
in the parades!
With all that and some, we are on a solid footing
and 2012 should be an excellent year.
, Jon
MA N A G E R A N D V O L U N T E E R C O O R D I N A T O R
S N A P S H O T S F R O M R E C E N T E V E N T S A N D G O I N G S O N
Spirit of the Volunteer Award
2010

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Luciano Rollin
Julibeth Valera
Mr. C. Cowan (re-joining)
Blythe Reimer
Joel Paton - life member
Shea Baldwin
Advantages to membership of the Association are in:
Being part of a community-focused
organization
Broadening your network of contacts and
new friends
Learning first hand about Canadas role
in military aviation
An opportunity to develop new skills
Involvement in a wide range of museum
activities
A voting member of the Comox Valley Air
Force Museum Association (CVAFMA)
Opportunity to become one of the
Association`s Directors
Enjoyment of membership activities and
social functions
Discounts at the Air Force Museum Gift
A BIG WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBERS:
Date COMING EVENTS
TBD Feb 11:
Cumberland Heritage Fair. Theme: Communications. CAFM display planned.
2021 Apr 11: School District 71 Comox Valley Heritage Fair - CAFM and 19 Wing Fitness & Community Centre
23 Apr - 9 May 11:
Canadian Forces Snowbirds at Comox and Snowbirds Autograph Session (5 May) in library.
TBD Apr 11:
CVAFMA Annual General Meeting 7 PM at the Comox Air Force Museum in the theatre
TBD May 11:
CAFM participates in Cumberland Parade with Heritage Vehicles.
17 May 11: Annual Garage Sale, Museum Parking Lot. (9 AM to 2 PM) (set up at 8 AM)
1 Jul 11:
CAFM participates in Courtenay Canada Day Parade, with Heritage Vehicles, and Booth.
6 Aug 11:
CAFM participates in Comox Nautical Days Parade with Heritage Vehicles.
Irv FraserLife Membership Award
Irv receiving his Life Member card from Membership
Director Bill Cuell. Irv was given his Life Membership for the
constructon work he has done over the years for the
museum and for the Spitire Project. With his unfailing
cheery enthusiasm, it can be truly said of Irv that, if you seek
his monument, just look around.

ME MB E R S H I P :
Renewals have been brisk. Bill Cuell reports that we now have 72 paid-up members (up by 19) and 25 Life/
Honorary members (up by 2). Bill is looking into buttons for long serving members. There are 22 active members
having served 5 yrs. or longer, 12 at 10 yrs., 3 at 15 yrs., 5 at 20 yrs.
F U N D R A I S I N G :
Mike Spooner reported that we received $13,000 from the Gaming Commission. This was as a result of an
energetic appeal to a previous award of zero funding. We received approximately 50% of previous levels of funding,
in accordance with current provincial government policies.
D I S P L A Y S :
Main Gallery Displays Development has, following a visit from Don Smith in the second week of December,
taken another leap forward with displays having been considerably enhanced for:
Canadas Air Demonstration Teams;
VU 33 Utility Air Squadron (19541992);
442 Transport and rescue Squadron; and
A small addition to the 414 Squadron display.
Vampire - Display Building:
Dave Mellin confirms that plans for the Vampire display case are still on course. Two photos
and three drawings were submitted for perusal. Next meetings with the architect will be in Jan 2012. Costs
are still being worked on.
Tutor Display:
Dave Mellin and Jon Ambler are investigating an MoU for the Wing to provide a logo promoting the
Wing at the new Visitors Centre. The Tutor is considered an offsite display of Crown property.
Memorial for Past Volunteers:
Bill Cuell has found a person to create a Memorial Book in leather. Insert pages will be sent to her
and she will send leather swatches for approval. Bill noted that the costs may exceed the budgeted amount
after postage, engraving and other design considerations are taken into effect. More to follow.
Jon Ambler has volunteered to write a draft policy on criteria for inclusion in the book.
Heritage Stones:
Mike Hendren has found two possible new candidates to manufacture the new stones. The way the stones are
displayed will also change. The Heritage Stones brochure has been updated and re-issued.
N E W WI N G H E R I T A G E O F F I C E R :
Jon Ambler reported that 7 candidates came forward for the position and an offer has been made to
the successful candidate. Jon feels that a very good replacement for Capt. Low has been found. The estimated start
date will be late February 2012.
BC HI STORI CAL SOCI ETY:
Bob Mortimer informed the board that the BC Historical Society`s General Meeting will be held on 3-6
May 2012 in Campbell River. An application for renewal of membership has been made and it was recommended,
given the meeting`s proximity, that we send a delegate. An invitation will be made for attendees to visit the Museum.
E X T R A C T S F R O M T H E MO S T R E C E N T C V A F MA B O A R D ME E T I N G S
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2.
Work has been proceeding apace at the hangar on getting the
building ready for the grand opening ceremonies in January. The
building needed to be modified so that we can rotate the aircraft
90 degrees to pin on the Wings when they arrive.
The work comprises of the following:
The in-wall wiring has been replaced to allow for heavier
loads.
A new system of piping for the compressed air has been
installed , including piping to the rear spaces, where we will
locate some of our machines.
New lighting to replace the halogen wall lighting that was so
hard on the eyes has been installed, and of course all of the
wall boarding had to be replaced.
A big new roll up door to allow us to bring in and mount the
Engine & Propeller has been installed at the rear, along with
a big pad to allow a forklift to maneuver the equipment into
place.
And, of course the big change to the building is an 8 foot
push out at the front of the building to allow room around the
tail of the aircraft.
This work was all completed by the engineers of 19 CEF, who
used the opportunity to train some of their technicians in the finer
arts of building construction. So they wrapped up their work last
week, for which the Museum's thanks have been expressed, and
now we have to get the place painted and looking like a working
hangar by the middle of the month in time for our opening cere-
monies.
At this writing we are expecting some very important people to
show up for the opening, as well as invited media. The opening
will not be open to the general public, as we dont have the room
just yet to handle large crowds; however, we are planning an open
house for later, so our fans and public can see what we have done
to the building and to the Spitfire in the past few months.
Of course we will soon be open for our usual tours that have
been so professionally conducted by the museum volunteers, and
well have a few new banners and displays to make the place look
professional.
This year will be an exciting one for this project as we see the
arrival of some critical components and our beautiful Spitfire
starts to take shape. Well try to keep this column as current as
possible and will be announcing how folks can get the most up to
date information on the web as we go along.
Terry Chester, The Roseland Spitfire Team
The increased distribution of the Spring is-
sue, including to the base, our fair exhibits and
the civilian airport foyer appears to have done a bit better than
expected. All 50 extra copies printed and distributed, duly
disappeared quickly and, fortunately, have not been found at
the dump or any of the recycling depots! Unless the costs are
too great, it would appear wise to continue with this distribu-
tion model, or even improve it.
By the same token, given our recent surge in new mem-
bership and volunteers, it is of course timely to ask, as in the
Presidents column, if interested members would like to
consider volunteering for one or two Directorships
becoming vacant at our AGM in April. Please see
the stimulus notice on Page 16. Not to be outdone, you will
also see, on Page 9, an invitation to anyone interested in trying
his or her hand at some newsletter journalism for this publi-
cation. Training would be free, albeit sporadic.
2010 has been a year with only two newsletters issued.
Hopefully, time will allow one or two more than that in 2012.
Thank you for all your pleasant feedback.
. Rodney
E D I T O R I A L
The Spitfire Project Team
T H E R O S E L A N D ( Y 2 K ) S P I T F I R E P R O J E C T U P D A T E

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OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR
Born and raised on a tobacco
farm in southern Ontario, near a place
called Delhi, Mikes Grade 10 teacher
started his interest and journey into
the world of history. Following
school, he decided to go through the
military in order to receive training in
his chosen profession as a machinist.
Mike joined in 1977 and
after basic and trades training,
served in Edmonton working
primarily on the Hercules,
Twin Otter, Chinook, Kiowa,
and Huey aircraft.
In 1985 he was posted to the Defence
and Civil Institute of Environmental
Medicine, at CFB Toronto in
Downsview. There he repaired, modi-
fied, and manufactured various compo-
nents of the low and high-pressure
chambers, impact test sled, and human
centrifuge. He also manufactured ex-
perimental test equipment for applica-
tion in the space, high altitude, aircraft
safety systems, deep sea diving, robotics, and high G impact
research fields.
He went back to Edmonton in 1988, received his appoint-
ment to M/Cpl, and was posted to Moose Jaw at 15 Air
Maintenance Squadron as the machine shop supervisor having
fun with Tutors (even the one currently in our airpark). In
1995 he became an Aircraft Structures Technician after
amalgamation of the three separate
trades of A/C metal technician,
machinist, and refinisher. There,
associated with the local museum
doing a few machining jobs, he
was the team-lead for pedestal
mounting of a Tutor at the base
front entrance.
In February of 1998 he was promoted to Sergeant and, with
closure of 15 AMS in August 2000, posted to CFSATE at 16
Wing Borden, as a Course Director and subsequently receiving
his WO crown in the summer of 2001.
He was posted here to 19 Air Maintenance Squadron Work-
shops where, as a secondary duty, he was his Sqns Air Force
Museum representative and developed his love for our muse-
um. At 19 AMS, he was mainly involved in liaising between
his troops and the aircraft repair crew but also helped out with
our display at the air show.
In December of 2005 Mike was promoted to Master War-
rant Officer in Comox and subsequently posted to ATESS 8
Wing Trenton and then, in September of 2006, unexpectedly
posted to Cold Lake to take over as the Deputy Mechanical
Support Officer at 1 AMS. He took his voluntary release in
March of 2007, after serving almost 30 years.
Being a workshops type he had been involved with many a
display aircraft, e.g. T-Birds, Harvards, Tutors, our own Ca-
nuck and Tracker and even a CIM-10 Bomarc somewhere
down the line, as well as the joy of working on an AVRO An-
son for the Museum in Moose Jaw. All of this, together with
the development of his organizational skills along the way,
directed him perfectly to our museum team here.
Immediately prior to joining us, he worked at Industrial
Plastics & Paints in Comox BC as a fabricator/salesperson.
While there, he even got to make a few of our display cases.
He is married to his once teenage sweetheart and still beau-
tiful wife, Sharon, for over thirty years. They have been
blessed with two wonderful children: Michael, who is in Van-
couver in the computer gaming industry; and Jayson, who has
just joined the infantry.
While his new position here is only just over a year old, he
is now fully involved and enjoying the support and backing of
his new team immensely. His objective is to contribute in the
same way that Capt Low, Col Ambler, Ken Oxley and all the
volunteers do every day, enjoying the challenges of the future
together, by remembering and sharing the past.



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H I S T O R I C A L S N I P P E T S
Wartime in CFS Debert, Nova Scotia through the eyes of a young boy
The source of my lifelong passion for aviation was
clearly rooted by one or two events, including 18 months
living on an active military base during WWII. One tragic
event on the military base at CFS Debert Nova Scotia, stands
out and will forever be etched into my memory. Some 68
years later, those images still haunt me. It would prove to be a
much more traumatic event for my parents than my younger
brother and me, who
were too young to
understand the con-
sequences of the
events that unfolded
that day.
CFS Debert had
been built to
accommodate up to
100,000 troops as a
training base for the
Canadian Army, as an RAF operational training unit and an
RCAF satellite base to Dartmouth, about an hours drive
away. From Debert, several RCAF Squadrons provided patrol
aircraft and reconnaissance duties for the many convoys that
departed from Halifax with troops and supplies for bases in
England and North Africa. It was a common sight to see Hud-
son Bombers, Lysanders, Hurricanes and Kittyhawks coming
and going during training and operational flights. As a small
boy full of bewilderment and curiosity I rather enjoyed the
steady stream of camouflaged aircraft, the sights and sounds
were exciting for sure, and I would watch them for hours.
We were billeted in a small 2 room cabin - one of four
built to accommodate officers and their families at the base -
200 yards from one of the 3 runways. The cabins had been
engineered to stand up to a Nova Scotia winter, but not to
withstand the shock wave of an exploding RCAF bomber. In
the summer of 1943 it did just that. Our family was having
lunch when, without warning, the only window on the west
side of the cabin was blown inward covering all of us with
shards of glass. Fortunately a large curtain had prevented the
larger shards from travelling too far. The sound of the break-
ing glass was followed by a tremendously large boom, the
cabin shifted 10 -2 inches further east and every dish and piece
of glassware in the
cupboards was
tossed to the floor.
Quickly we were
rushed outside to
join the other offic-
ers and families
that shared the 3
other cabins; the
mothers showed concern but seemed un-phased by the events.
One mother volunteered to look after the children while the
others quickly retreated to the cabins armed with brooms,
mops and pails to clean up the mess. The fathers went into the
woods drawn by the black column of rising smoke to deter-
mine the source of the explosion and to make sure we would
not experience another one. Soon the men returned with the
bad news, an RCAF bomber had crashed and there should be
no further explosions.
It was soon determined that a Lockheed Hudson Bomb-
er with a partial load of bombs had fallen from the sky about
200 yards from the cabins in the nearby woods. The fuel and
the ordnance had exploded on contact with the forest floor and
the entire crew had been killed. Later that day we ventured
into the woods to examine the crash site and see for ourselves
what caused the cabin to shift so dramatically. The wreckage
was still smoldering, RCAF crash investigators were sifting
through what was left of the bomber and at least 2 covered
bodies of the ill-fated crew were lined up in a row near an ar-
my vehicle. It dramat-
ically brought home
the seriousness of that
days events. I well
remember the somber
funeral parade a few
days later as the bodies
placed on the backs of
trucks passed our cabin
on the way to the train
station.
Over the next
few months several crashes were reported, thankfully none as
serious as the one just experienced. In January 1944, my fa-
ther was posted overseas and we returned to Calgary to wait
out the war. In January 1946 my Father returned home and
soon our life returned to normal. As with many others mem-
bers of the association, my interest in military aviation and
RCAF history has stayed with me my entire life. I have visit-
ed aviation museums around the world, attended air shows in
North America and the UK and acquired a respectable refer-
ence library written by some of Canadas more notable histori-
ans and biographies by some of Canadas leading fighter pi-
lots. I volunteered on the Comox Air Force Museums Y2-K
Spitfire project for 8 years. Im now a volunteer at the Van-
couver Island Military Museum in Nanaimo, providing assis-
tance with marketing, promotion and event planning. Soon we
will be moving into new spacious premises in Downtown
Nanaimo. It is and always will be a pleasure to support our
veterans, their service and showcase Canadian Military
history.
Pat Murphy, Nanaimo B.C.

2.
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H I S T O R I C A L S N I P P E T S C O N T . .
Penal Transportation - Canadian Style
We have all heard about deportation of convicts to Australia
by the British in the 18 to 19
th
century but little is known about
the British deportation of Canadians and Americans to Australia.

Following poor harvests, a
financial & commercial crisis
resulted in the collapse of
banks in both England &
America. Arising from this
crisis was the Parti Patriote
and, with Louis-Joseph
Papineau as its head, they
pursued the republican and
nationalist ideas forcibly and this resulted in the Rebellion of Low-
er Canada.

A similar rebellion in Upper Canada, led by
William Lyon Mackenzie occurred. Both rebel-
lions were crushed by the government and many
of the participants were rounded up & charged.
The verdict of the trials was that
82 Americans, 58 French Canadi-
ans & 5 civil prisoners were to be
transported to Australia.

So, on 28 September, 1839, HMS Buffalo
sailed from Quebec transporting the prisoners. On 11 February,
1840, HMS Buffalo arrived off Hobart in Tasmania where the
Americans were disembarked.
It then sailed to Sydney to disembark the 58 French Canadi-
ans and the 5 political prisoners.

They were interred near the present
day Concord resulting in the naming of
Canada Bay, French Bay & Exile Bay.

These prisoners were not in the same
category as the British who has been transported. Most were
farmers with a few tradesmen and a surgeon.


At the request of the local catholic bishop
they were brought to Sydney and impressed
at Longbottom Stockade where they were
used to break stone for the Paramatta Road
& also collected oyster shells for making lime.

In 1842, they were allowed to work outside the prison &
between 1843 and 1844 they all received pardons and except for
Joseph Marceau, a farmer/weaver who settled in Dapto. Two
people died but the rest all returned to Canada.
Don Manley
Patriote leader Louis-Joseph Papineau speaks to the crowd at
the Assembly of the Six Counties.
War if Necessary; but, Not Necessarily War!
As we understand wars, armies fight each oth-
er and casualties result on both sides. But, to
have two armies face each other over a period of
20 years and not fire a shot is rare indeed. In
1859 on the island of San Juan, the Canada/USA
boundary had not been settled and hence both
Canadian and American settlers
set up their homes.
An Englishman, Charles Griffin, of the
Hudson Bay Company had a pig which es-
caped and ate the potatoes from the Ameri-
can farmer, Lyman Cutler, who then shot and
killed the pig. The British authorities threatened to arrest Cut-
ler; whereupon, his American neighbours called on the US gov-
ernment for protection, which then arrived, in the form of the 9
th

Infantry of the Dept. of Oregon.
Not to be outdone or, should I say, outgunned, the British
sent 3 warships under Capt. Geoffrey Hornby. Both sides in-
creased their forces; but, no shots were ever fired. British Rear
Admiral Robert Bayes, Commander of British Naval Forces in the
Pacific, tried hard to avoid war. It seemed unconscionable that
Great Britain and the United
States should go to war over one
pig! The US President sent Gen-
eral Winfield Scott to try and settle
the matter. Both sides agreed but
kept token forces on hand in what
are now known as the American
and British camps.
The main question remained on
who owned the island and it was
not until 1872 that a third party
was appointed to settle the mat-
ter. That person was Kaiser Wil-
helm of Germany and on October
2
nd
he declared the island to be
American and
thus ended
the war. The
matter could have been settled earlier when
Cutler offered Griffin $10 in compensation;
but, Griffin wanted $100. To my way of think-
ing, if the British and American governments
had anteed up $50 each, they would have
saved themselves the expense of maintain-
ing troops in situ for 20 years.

Don Manley
Proposed boundaries:
- Through Haro Strait, favoured by the US;
- Through Rosario Strait, favoured by Britain; and
Through San Juan Channel, compromise proposal.
HBC Belle Vue pig farm
U.S. Army Camp
Kaiser Wilhelm I of Germany

Spotters QUIZ
Answers at bottom of page 14.
1. When did a Russian trawler off Vancouver intentionally
laser a Canadian Forces Sea King helicopter, damaging the
eye of one pilot and ending his flying career: a) 1963, b)
2007, c) 1997 or d) 2000?
2. Which Canadian airport was named after the founder of
Western Canada Airways Ltd: a) Edmonton; b) Whitehorse;
c) Winnipeg or d) North Bay?
3. What is the name of the oldest surviving Canadian-built
aircraft: a) Bleriot XI; b) Borel-Morane monoplane; c)
McDowall monoplane or d) A.E.A. Silver Dart?
4. In 2008 the 442 Transport and Rescue Squadron at 19 Wing
Comox won which prestigious aviation award?
a) Ninety-Nines Canadian Award in Aviation
b) Pilot Training Achievement Award
c) Transport Canada Aviation Safety Award
d) Trans-Canada (McKee) Trophy?

L I G H T E R T H A N A I R
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If you are new to these frivolous activities, the trick is to send your
answers on both images, with as much specific detail as reasonable, on or
before 28th February, 2011, to:
rodney.hyde.jones@gmail.com or phone him at 250-650-0166. The most
correct answer will receive $10 of CVAFMAs hard-earned funds.
The winner, if any, will be announced in the Spring newsletter.
A tie will be settled by pulling one winner from a wedge cap.
After a National Beer Festival, all the brewery
presidents decided to go out for a beer together.
The guy from Corona sits down and says, 'Hey Seor,
the world's best beer, a Corona please.' The bartender
dusts off a bottle from the shelf and gives it to him.
The guy from Budweiser says, 'I'd like the best beer in
the world, give me 'The King Of Beers', a Budweiser.' The
bartender gives him one.
The guy from Coors says, 'I'd like the only beer made
with Rocky Mountain spring water, give me a Coors.' He
gets it.
The guy from Molson Canadian sits down and says,
'Give me a Coke.' The bartender is a little taken aback,
but gives him what he ordered.
The other brewery presidents look over at him and
ask, 'Why aren't you drinking a Molson's?'
The Molson Canadian president replies, 'Well, I figured
if you guys aren't drinking beer, neither would I.
"Kulula Airlines is pleased to announce that we have
some of the best flight attendants in the industry.
Unfortunately, none of them are on this flight!"
ATC: Alitalia 345 continue taxi holding position 26
South via Tango and check for workers along
taxiway.
Ali 345: Taxi 26 South via Tango. Workers checked -
all are working well.
F U N FA R E
.
.
We have some very astute and
knowledgeable spotters out there! Almost a draw, it was. But, the $10 goes
to Doug Eastman who, assuming his proliferous reference is correct,
identified the image as that of a Northrop Delta Mk II. Verified by < http://
www.canadianwings.com/Aircraft/Database/listpage.php?page=204 >.
Brent Robertson, also supplying much detail and very close with his
answer of a Northrop Delta Mk. III, just missed a draw for the winner.
Thank you both very much for super efforts and thanks also to the
anonymous donor of this image put into my museum pigeon hole sometime
in 2010. Interestingly enough, a pack of about six exuberant aviation
buffs got a hold of this image, illegally - I might say, last January and, after
almost a days perusing of our 8,000+ book library, didnt even come close
to a solution!
Doug further asks about a photo he has of a Delta, II or III, reg. #
A149, taken by his uncle, an RCAF Mechanic overseas during WWII. Not
having any details of it, Doug would like to know where A149 was
stationed and whether it was in the RCAF or RAF.
So, our new expert on Northrop Deltas, no less, asks if anyone can
please help with this question?
Previous Issues:
This issues question:
What, whose, why, when, and where, are these?

Deputy Director WO Mike Barnucz, Acting 19 Wing Heritage Officer
Program Manager & Volunteer Coordinator Jon Ambler
Gift Shop Manager Ken Oxley
Museum Contact Information
Comox Air Force Museum
19 Wing Comox, Lazo BC V0R 2K0
Newsletter Editor Rodney Jones
President Don Manley
Vice President Bob Mortimer
Rec. Secretary Corrine Bainard
Treasurer Mike Spooner
Membership Bill Cuell
Bingo Coordinator Herb Lightfoot
Director at Large Mike Hendren
Director at Large Dave Mellin
Director at Large Val Kaehler
Director at Large Rodney Jones
Director at Large Terry Chester
CVAFMA Executive 2010-12
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COLLABORATIVE OPPORTUNITIES

To join our Association, download the application on our website (below) under Volunteer, leave a phone message
at the Museum, or drop by and fill out an application. For only $10 annually, some of the benefits you receive include
our newsletter, discounts in the gift shop, and a voice in the organization.
If you are currently receiving this newsletter by mail, please forward your email address to receive a high quality
issue via the Internet.
Our thanks to those of you who have contributed articles and other material for this issue. If you have been thinking of
doing so, whether it be a photo, story, or anything relevant to what we do and who we are, please dont hesitate to send it
along to the contacts below:
info@comoxairforcemuseum.ca or leave a message at the Museum;
The editor, at: rodney.hyde.jones@gmail.com ; or
Visit www.comoxairforcemuseum.ca or drop by the museum to find out more about current activities.

Observer WO Mike Barnucz
Observer Jon Ambler
Phone/Fax: 250-339-8162
E-mail: info@comoxairforcemuseum.ca
Website: www.comoxairforcemuseum.ca
Spitfire/Y2K Project Website: www.y2kspitfire.com
OPENING TIMES: Museum, Library and Gift Shop Tuesdays to Sundays: 10 am - 4 pm.
Spitfire Hangar
Under renovations and closed for a short while.
Enquire at Museum.
Heritage Airpark May - September: 10 am - 4 pm

Answers: 1. c) A Canadian Aviation Regulation now forbids pointing a bright light into navigable airspace that
could cause injury or damage; 2. c) James Armstrong Richardson, who founded the airline in 1926; 3. c); 4. d) In
October 2006, the 442 squadron crew rescued three victims of a chopper crash along Knight Inlet, B.C. It is the oldest
(est. 1927) aviation award in Canada.
Heritage Stones For Sale
$155.00 ea, with tax receipt
Apply on http://www.comoxairforcemuseum.ca/heritagestones.html or visit museum gift shop
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N OT I C E S









As a Director you would match your enthusiasm, As a Director you would match your enthusiasm, As a Director you would match your enthusiasm,
beliefs and ideas on what we do with helping at the beliefs and ideas on what we do with helping at the beliefs and ideas on what we do with helping at the
steering end. steering end. steering end.

Yours to consider and talk to us about for Yours to consider and talk to us about for Yours to consider and talk to us about for
the AGM in April. the AGM in April. the AGM in April.
Being a Member of CVAFMA, Being a Member of CVAFMA, Being a Member of CVAFMA,
you are you are you are so so so close. close. close.




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A T T H E C O M O X A I R F O R C E M U S E U M
U N I Q U E G I F T I D E A S
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Something for any budget, any age.
Toys, models, clothing, mugs, hats, books, models, clocks, decals, posters, patches, pins etc.
Open Tuesday to Sunday 10 A.M. 4 P.M.
[Located outside the gate at CFB Comox at Ryan Road and Military Row]
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Heres wishing you happy reading, a Merry
Christmas and Peace in the New Year.