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in the way of more seating depth..071 in fact over what I was using and this is significant when pressure is involved in such a small capacity case and long heavy bullet. With the hollow point, 311440, it was worth a try.
Pacos Long Range .30 Carbine Load with Lymans 311440 Hollow point Bullet
Table 1 Initial test 311440 HP in .30 Carbine Blackhawk Bullet Weight Powder Weight Average Standard Primer Sized
311440 HP 151.2 2400 10.0 Velocity 1137 Deviation 21.4 WSP
Overall Accuracy
Good acc at 100 yards
Testing twenty of these loads ( Table 1) gave me fair accuracy at 100 yards and more or less proved my theory that the HP cavity increased stability at less than 1200 FPS and the major factor was that the fired cases literally fell out of the cylinder now.
Table 2 Follow up testing of the 311440 HP in .30 Carbine Blackhawk Bullet Weight Powder Weight Average Standard Primer Sized Overall Accuracy
311440 HP 311440 HP 151.2 2400 10.5 Velocity 1232 Deviation 15.6 CCI SP WSP Length .310/309 1.732 front band .310/309 1.732 front band Best Accuracy Good acc At 100 yards
151.2
2400
11.0
1278
16.8
The follow up testing ( Table 2) proved to be the topping on the cake. I achieved my goal of 1200 FPS and more. Better yet, the 1232 FPS load gave very fine accuracy at 100 yards. Better than I had expected. Extraction of the cases was easy and the fired primers looked normal. I had the load that was searching for. I know that very few of you will have a hollow point 311440. With this in mind, Ill go back and work on loads with the solid version of the heavier 311440 and see if I can get a load to work for it.
Table 3
Follow-up testing with the solid 311440
Overall Accuracy
Gd Acc @ 100 Yds Gd Acc @ 100 Yds Gd Acc @ 100 Yds
311440
156.2
2400
10.8
1198
22.3
CCISP
311440
156.2
2400
10.9
1228
11.8
CCISP
Length .310/309 1.732 Front Band .310/309 1.745 Front Band .310/309 1.745 Front Band
The one lot loaded at 1.732 overall length (Table 3) almost made the cut at 1178 FPS but I wanted to top 1200 FPS as I was now shooting the solid and I felt thats Id need the velocity to stabilize it. This load was also showing some hard extraction. Not enough to get excited about but more than I wanted to mess with on a regular basis.
As a result, I once more checked the overall length and managed to squeeze another .013 out of the cylinder length. Now, this is close to the end of the cylinder but so far, Ive had no problems with it in sliding forward and tying up cylinder rotation. Eureka! Easy extraction and 1198 FPS and good accuracy. Subsequent testing with another tenth of a grain of 2400 gave me the desired 1228 feet per second.
New Wrinkle
While I was casting some additional 311440s for these tests, I was also casting some RCBS 30-150-CM, plain base bullets designed for cowboy loads. I intended to use these to test some whisper loads in the .30-30 and .30/06. I know the weight of these to be right at 150 grains and the length looked about the same as the 311440 so I began to form an idea. When I was sizing and lubing this run of bullets, a small test portion was sized to .310 with the front band sized to .309. The two bullets were compared with the following results: Table 4 Comparison of the 311440 and 30-150-CM Bullet Weight Length (ready to load) 311440 156.2 .832 Lyman 30-150-CM 150.7 .810 RCBS Ill load these over some 2400 and see how they compare to the 311440 as far as velocity, accuracy and pressure. With the shorter and lighter bullet (Table 4) , I should be able to slightly increase the overall seating depth and pick up a bit more velocity with less pressure. An added factor with the RCBS bullet is a big, wide, flat meplat which should shoot great in the .30 Carbine
Blackhawk if it will only stabilize. Table 5 Testing with the 30-150-CM RCBS
Overall Accuracy
Gd acc @ 100 yds
Initial testing with the 30-150-CM proved rewarding (Table 5) . This bullet shoots as well at 100 yards with my primitive testing methods as does the 311440 but without the pressure problems due to the shorter length of the bullet. An added bonus is the plain base which does away with the cost of a gas check. Ive increased the cartridge overall length as much as possible and both bullets seated at 1.745 now shoot at the magic 1200 FPS needed to stabilize these long bullets in the Blackhawk without me experiencing sticky case extraction. They shoot as well as the 311440 without the cost of gas checks and proved to be just as accurate.
L-R: 311440, 311440 HP, .30 Carbine loaded with 311440, 30-150-CM RCBS, 30 Carbine loaded with 30-150-CM Rules to be observed in loading this round: Trim cases. Seat the bullet out as far as possible to obtain the maximum overall length. Use small pistol primers. Use only a very light taper crimp. Start low and work up your load watching for signs of pressure.
Warning Again, this is a very special load and uses a bullet longer and heavier than the caliber is designed for at pressures that are probably at the top of the range for a .30 Carbine in the Ruger Blackhawk. Use this data at your own risk. At no time substitute shorter seating depths or substitute small rifle primers in place of the small pistol primers or signs of pressure will immediately show up and damage may result. Final loads that worked in my pistol.
Overall Accuracy
Gd Acc @ 100 Yds Best Accuracy Gd acc @ 100 yds
311440 HP 30150CM
151.2
2400
10.5
1232
15.6
CCI SP CCISP
150.7
2400
10.5
1230
30.8
Length .310/309 1.745 Front Band .310/309 1.732 front band .310/309 1.745 Front Band
I look back over these tests which have been carried out over several years and have consumed quite a bit of powder, a bunch of primers and a whole lot of thinking and scheming. I wonder if it was worth the effort. If you have either of the moulds on hand, and if you own a .30 Carbine Blackhawk and are looking for the ultimate heavy load for it, and if you love to cast bullets and tinker, then this is the load for you. I would have no hesitation on using it on a deer and it sure is a pleasure to plink with at 100 yards and Ive enjoyed doing it but by golly it was a lot of work to make it shoot accurately and safely. John Goins /aka beagle