Physical Interactions with Discarnate Spirits : Toward a More Fundamental Science (part one)

By
Giorgio Piacenza

Different advanced theories and experimental results are leading us to scientifically consider the
reality of an important relation with a realm of discarnate spirits, a realm that would be a
precursor to our particular physical universe and necessary to complete our understanding of
physical reality. According to Dr. Thomas Campbell (author of the TOE model) the phenomenon of
"quantum erasure" shows that we live in a "virtual" universe that requires consistency of
detected/perceived information. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RMOGFaOLSQ

"Quantum Erasure" demonstrates that, if we do not look at but also destroy the results of
measured data for detected particles in a series of the double slit experiments, all the
experiment's results show that only wave-based diffraction or interference patterns remain. This
shows that CONSISTENCY is required in our particularly macroscopically coherent quantum
universe. Moreover, other interesting theories like that of the "Quantum Hologram" proposed by
physicist and astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell would be compatible with the idea of macroscopic scale
holographic coherence of quantum waves and that would also agree with the requirement for
information consistency. However, if we extend Gdel's incompleteness theorems as aplicable to
a binary, digital, virtual (even if holographic) universe, a universe only organized under a classical
logic useful for first order artihmetic, we will find that that consistency does not entail
completeness.

In other words, the physical universe experienced under classical parameters would have to
extend itself in a continuous search for completeness through a continuous creative relation and
interaction as a subset of a more inclusive "universe" (in fact a distinct and more primordial realm
of being) which can be best understood under a more inclusive logic. That logic would be akin to
a "both-and" logic of complementarities. I think that that other "realm" would be a realm in which
there's s "higher symmetry" in the sense that exterior "matter" would be co-causal with particular
subjective experience.

That would be a "Subtle Realm" (a name given in certain mystical traditions) and, while containing
our universe (mostly as a potential entity in terms of our ordinary conscious experience), it would
be the WHOLE or interconnecting whole containing and organizing (as one of its parts) our
particular "lower symmetry," physical universe in which space-time parameters rule classical
macroscopic experience as an inextricable continuum while also posing (in a more fundamental
quantum level) limits to measuring our information-gathering both in terms of TIME
(momentum) and SPACE (position).

The uncertainty relation between these space-based and time-based parameters (crucially relying
on Planck's Constant) might not only establish limits to what we can know in a continuous classical
sense (our subjectivities causally interacting with objects through what we perceive as the
seamless restrictions of duration and distance) but correspond to connection possibilities with a
necessary higher realm. In the "higher realm" the resistance of space and time against manifesting
a medium that provides information to consciousness would essentially be null and exteriors
"mental" objects would precisely correlate with our interior, subjective content.

Dr. Gary E. Schwartz, PhD reports that using a sensitive single photon detector called the "Silicon
Photo Multiplier System" that can detect photons in a pitch dark, cold ambient temperature,
anomalous detection of an extra amount of photons repeatedly took place under controlled
conditions after spirit collaborators were asked to produce the effect. When specific spirit
collaborators are asked to manifest after baselines have been measured, the detector detects
significantly more photon bursts during trial periods of 300 seconds. The device also measures
photons during trials using experimenter's intention, when no intention and when spirits are asked
not to intervene. Then, photons remain at similar low
levels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u7RqklxNnA

It is time to stop ignorantly laughing at and dismissing serious results such as these. While I'm not
an experimental scientist I think there's enough reasonable evidence to take these and similar
results in earnest. The implications are very important to modify what we think of ourselves and of
"reality" especially in academic settings, to say the least.

The consistent production of extra, "anomalous" photons when alleged discarnate spirits or
consciousnesses are asked to affect the detection of photons by intention and under controlled
conditions is in my view respectable, interesting evidence of survival of consciousness and
personality after physical bodily death and studies like these need to be respectfully
replicated and improved. These "anomalies" aren't just "irrelevant," "weird" or "entertaining"
phenomena of no real consequence. The nature of who we are, our post mortem state, and a
more complete (and eventually practical) science and philosophy which may assist us in recreating
our cultural parameters in more intelligent, informed ways is also involved.


Is the "anomalous" or "extra" production of stable photons (out of the zero-point vacuum or
brought from elsewhere in space-time?) referred to by Dr. Gary Schwartz anteceded by a lowering
of ambient temperature, even in the low temperature conditions apparently required to use the
photon detector adequately? Does a more distant section of the laboratory experience a lowering
of temperature? Does it have to do more with the discarnate's capacity to manipulate virtual
particle probabilities and quantum potentials at a particular zero-point energy level? While
"anomalous" temperature differences may have nothing to do with the "anomalous" production
of photons I think that we are allowed to speculate in a careful, yet informed way and to attempt
to try to contribute an answer to the plausible mechanism involved, especially if most accredited
scientists still prefer to shy away from these crucial "interdimensional" human survival issues.

"Ghost hunters" (I dislike this disrespectful entertainment-based term), or rather "ghost
researchers" (a better term) and "ghost experiencers" in general have frequently reported
conventionally unexplained drops in temperature before and during various discarnate spirit
manifestations and many (including myself) have speculated that that phenomenon occurs when
discarnate spirits are absorbing energy to be used later during the manifestations. Somehow,
when the energy is released back into the physical environment (perhaps to produce a sound,
briefly move an object, touch you, produce a certain visible opacity, an EVP (electronic voice
phenomenon) or a seemingly intelligently travelling orb that can be filmed or so). The question
is, what is the mechanism? Some of it may be deduced from what a lowering of temperature
entails. It entails a decrease in kinetic activity, a decrease of agitation and motive force in physical
molecules.

Perhaps the Peltier Effect can help us illustrate some ideas. Heat transfers in the direction of the
charge carriers and the effect can be cooling or heating of the surrounding environment at the
junctures between different conductors.

If I understand it well, electrical current flowing from an iron conductor into a copper conductor
(from less conductivity and more resistivity into more conductivity and less resistivity) "evolves" or
emits thermal energy at the junction, also heating up the immediate environment surrounding
that junction between these materials. Then, when the current leaves the copper conductor and
flows back into the iron conductor (from more conductivity and less resistivity into less
conductivity and more resistivity), this other junction cools down and with it also the immediate
surrounding environment. If I'm not mistaken, in the former case, electrical energy would be lost
as heat into the environment (increasing its entropy) and in the latter case electrical energy would
be gained or absorbed from the environment (reducing its entropy).

If I'm not mistaken, in the Peltier Effect, when electrons in a higher kinetic state passing through a
"less dense," less restricting conductor (like copper) connect with another "denser" conductor
offering greater resistance (like iron), their kinetic state would diminish and cool down the
juncture. Then again, we could perhaps say that, when electric current connects from a "denser,"
more resistive medium (iron) into a "less dense," less resistive medium (copper), it heats up by
transferring kinetic energy into this juncture. Entropy-wise could we perhaps adequately compare
the relation between the physical realm and the discarnate's spirit realm with the relation
between the "denser" and "less dense" wires in the Peltier electric circuit?

The role of entropy (also linked to available information) would be crucial to tap into a causal and
retrocausal interplay which also perhaps connects physicality with the discarnate spirit's realm.
Perhaps - when entropy decreases in the physical realm - physical kinetic energy states are
transduced into useful organizing states in the discarnate's spirit realm.

I'd say that when temperature decreases in these processes, the potential energy increases. In
other words, kinetic energy decreases, potential energy increases and temperature drops at the
surrounding environment feeding energy back into the system with an interaction at the juncture.
At the other juncture in the circuit kinetic energy is restored back and the overall entropy
equilibrium is almost maintained within the circuit's system (there are net losses to entropy in our
perceived entropy-dominated universe because both conductors also heat up through Joule's
heating). While there's an overall increase of entropy due to Joule's heating, also around the
juncture where the environment is cooled, that environment's S (entropy) diminishes. More order
and decipherable information patterns are established at the microscopic scale.

Measuring any anomalous drop or increase in temperature previous, during and after the photon
detector trials (or other types of trials regarding experimental interactions with the discarnate
spirit's realm) may give us a measure of kinetic energy states converted into potential energy
states within the physical realm while the kinetic states aspect may be transduced (and trans-
ontologically transferred) into the discarnate's spirit realm through a (usually non-consciously
perceived) intermediate, retrocausal quantum link (allowed by positive and negative, dual
solution, quantum relativistic equations incorporating special relativity and momentum).

The kinetic activity transferred to the discarnate's spiritual realm would be later on released into
the physical realm reconverting a temporarily created potential state back into its original kinetic
state while simultaneously generating detectable (quantum collapse) physical effects. The need
to reestablish the original entropy balance that was disturbed in the physical realm would force
this return to normalcy. There might also be a variable conversion factor (similar to what the
uncertainty principle is for quantum mechanics) that allows temporary reconfigurations or
interactions of this sort between the physical and the non-physical discarnate entities' realm.

That retrocausal link (perhaps also constitutive of what has elsewhere been called an "etheric"
bridge between the physical realm and the discarnate entities "astral" spiritual realm) would
change the effects of the kinetic force from being primarily entropy-increasing in the physical
realm to being 'momentarily' (transtemporarily) re-organizing and useful to manifest patterns in
the discarnate spirit's realm own kind of exterior mental "substance." The retrocausal link might
turn potential states from one realm into actual and kinetic states in the other and vice
versa. Any degree of inter-realm conversion might create an intermediate state and substance
which corresponds to what some theosophists and spiritists call an "etheric" link between the
physical and "astral" worlds.

According to Dr. Ulisse di Corpo the retrocausality implied in unnecessarily rejected dual quantum-
relativistic solutions may also serve to retrocausally (and syntropically) connect physical space-
time existence with future quantum wave possibilities. Besides that - in my view - the retrocausal
quantum waves might cancel out time-forward, causal, particulate, past-centered, "actual"
physical experience, matter and entropy and -in the natural bridge formed - "transduce" and-or
transfer potential and actual physical states into their corresponding opposite states in the null
space and null time proper of the discarnate's spiritual realm.

The degree of cancellation between the time-forward and time-backward causal influences may
correspond to a greater or lesser degree of superposition of physical space-time and the
discarnate's more inclusive, non-physical, null space-null time realm. If these superpositions can
stabilize, they may generate different physical universes which may be more or less closer in
nature to the essential characteristics of the discarnate's, non-physical realm. In other words,
some physical universes (all still ruled by the constraints of space-time and a dominant resistance
of exterior matter to change at the macro level in order to acommodate to subjective
experiences) may be "subtler" or "denser" so to speak. Some of these physical universes, with
their own combinations of "constants" and other parameters such as entropy, inertia, and 'initia'
(which could relate with the degree of quantum uncertainty and the associated capacity of
consciousness to actualize potentials), might be the alternative "membranes" (or simply "branes")
floating in a higher dimensional space being considered along with theoretical developments in M
Theory and cosmology.

Promoting the cancellation between the causal & retrocausal influences might be a way to infold
our particularly (programmed?) physical space-time back into the realm of greater posibilities
from which it sprung or unfolded. if we knew what promotes an deasier interaction with the
discarnate spirits' realm we would also probably learn to manipulate space-time without the need
for extreme high energy physics. We might also be able to modify or reprogram the rate of time
inasmuch as time can be considered as the numerical order of change (rate of events?) allowed
per unit of space (read physicists Davide Fiscaletti and Amrit Sorli's works): A basic link is
here: http://phys.org/news/2011-04-scientists-spacetime-dimension.html

While causal solutions recognized in physics have been easy to intuitively accept as we consciously
experience a time-foreward causality with an overall entropy increase and loss of useful
information even if there are "islands" of greater organization, that include places like Planet Earth
and living systems. However, backward-in-time, causally effective solutions appearing in the Klein-
Gordon equations could also be non-trivial from a physical point of view. As Ulisse di Corpo
explains, they may be experienced as probability waves which also are completely necessary for
us to experience particulate matter in a linear and entropy-increasing sense. we need to outgrow
our clasical, modern, biased resistance to the physics of the Kosmos. Presentiment experiments
seem to demonstrate their reality and they seem to be necessary for the success of self-
organizing, living entities embedded in physicality. Dr. Ulisse di Corpo and Dr. Antonella Vannini
have written several articles and books on the subject from a scientific and from an experimental
perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDA836rOW00&feature=youtu.be

That retrocausality with which we might normally interact in a subconscious manner (please
review experiments by Dean Radin, Dick Bierman, Daryl Bem and others) may establish a
quantum-level link that mediates between ontologically potential energy states of a distinct realm
(in which space and time are essentially superseded by an instant, information inclusive type of
subjectivity-actualizing substance). The retrocausal influence normally related with future
potentials would also naturally relate with the subtle (discarnate spirit realm) potentials that allow
our physical world to manifest concrete expressions.

The causal influence we sequentially experience normally relates with already-established
actualizations or concrete events and particles. In other words, the (normally non-consciously
perceived) quantum relativistic aspect might serve to turn what (from a physical perspective) are
subtle level potentials into actualities in our physical world. It would perhaps serve to change
physical kinetic states into potential states in the physical realm and to convert those physical
potential states into useful kinetic states in the discarnate spirits' subtle realm. No actual energy
would be lost and-or transferred, only the actual and potential (and-or kinetic and potential)
organizational STATES between the realms.

The temporary, anomalous borrowing of kinetic energy from the physical realm (and shift in
entropy) might be allowed by a "conversion factor" between realms, perhaps akin to how the
Heisenberg uncertainty permits a brief creation of virtual particles (a short term borrowing of
energy) before quickly dissappearing back into the zero-point, balancing out to maintain original
baseline, average energy levels.

The "conversion factor" of interaction between the discarnate spirit's realm and the physical realm
(our particular space-time physical sub realm) may be relatively stable but partially modifiable and
depend on a difference between the rate of how consciousness instantaneously collapses a wave
of probabilities restricted to conform to our coherent space-time physical world (probabilities also
restricted by the need to maintain classical causal coherence on the aggregate) and
how consciousness instantaneously 'collapses' broader experiential possibilities in the
discarnate spirit's realm, itself organized under a different principle and a greater degree of
freedom, one in which exterior mental objects co-causally arise with interior, subjective
experiences. In other words, in that realm, subjectivity would generate objects as much as objects
would generate subjective responses on a co-equal basis. Perhaps in that more inclusive
discarnate spirit's realm containing all physical expression possibilities, the principle of initia is
essentially co-equal with that of inertia.

While in the physical realm (and, to various degrees, its sub realms) the principle of inertia
(exterior's resistance to change) predominates over consciousness collapsing/actualizing
possibilities under a specific, restricted range of probabilities and, while in the discarnate spirit's
realm (also, experientially, to various degrees according to its sub realms) the principle of inertia is
essentially co-equal with consciousness collapsing/actualizing possibilities, in an even more
inclusive "higher" realm of first principles and "seeds" (the causal realm in theosophy) the
principle of inertia would be completely secondary and dependent on the principle of initia and on
consciousness actualizing and collapsing possibilities. That's why its exteriors would be emptiest of
the illusion of independent existence and most inclusive of all that can be manifested. However,
that's a discussion for another - more metaphysical but scientifically relevant - article or essay.

Might the "anomalous" production of photons (out of the zero-point vacuum?) in Dr. Schwartz's
experiments be anteceded by a change of ambient temperature as has been the case in other
research regarding discarnate spirit's manifestations? It would be useful to try to measure any
anomalous drop or increase in temperature previous, during and after the trials to obtain a
measure of kinetic energy temporarily converted into potential energy while that kinetic activity
aspect is perhaps transduced. We could also say that it is "trans-ontologically" transferred into the
discarnate spirit realm's unique type of material exteriors. Inasmuch as realms are in a potential
state in relation to each other, they can be said to be in different ontological status. However
there should also be interconectivity and interaction or exchange. The exteriors in the discarnate's
spirit realm would instantly respond to the discarnate spirit's intention and its acquired-
transduced patterns (now resonant with the physical realm) would be subsequently released back
into the physical realm under the partial control of the discarnate entity's intention, generating
physical effects by taking advantage of the need to re-establish the original entropy.

An anomalous increase in temperature might be related (or not) to a simple restoration of the
"sequestered" kinetic energy state without using that state to generate a specific movement,
opacity, sound, or even production of photons out of the zero point energy field.

The temporary, 'anomalous' borrowing of kinetic energy from the physical realm and shift in
entropy transferring kinetic activity to the discarnate spirit's realm might be allowed by a
"conversion factor" akin to how the Heisenberg uncertainty allows a brief creation of virtual
particles before returning the energies to the vacuum to maintain the original energy levels. This
conversion factor of interaction between the discarnate's realm and the physical realm may be
variable and depend on the distinction between the rate of how consciousness instantaneously
collapses a wave of restricted probabilities of experience in the physical world (restricted by the
need to maintain classical causal coherence) and how consciousness instantaneously 'collapses'
greater possibilities of experience in the discarnate spirit realm, itself organized with a greater
degree of freedom and in which exterior mental objects are equally co-causal with interior,
subjective experiences.

While in the physical realm at the quantum level intention and consciousness may collapse
probability wave functions, overall macro exteriors seem to resist a dramatic change so as to
maintain a classical coherence not responding instantaneously to subjective intention in an
obvious, dramatic way. The rules, processes and even logic involved to maintain an experiential
coherence resists those changes. However, according to a large body of information obtained
through Instrumental Transcommunication, bona fide mediums, out of body experiencers, near
death experiencers and apparitions, intention itself may generate a more dramatic instantaneous
experience and actualization of exterior mental forms in the discarnate spirit's realm and these
forms may be regarded as causally co-equal with what these spirits subjectively experience. In
other words, causality would not disappear but be organized under a different principle, pattern
and logic; a type of causality in which exterior, objective, mental forms that can be collectively
witnessed by other consciousnesses are causally CO-EQUAL with interior, subjective experiences.
They would instantly feedback into each other.

The transferred kinetic energy in the discarnate spirit's 'material' exteriors would obey the spirit's
intention to release that kinetic energy by manifest a physical effect that restores the original
entropy and kinetic-potential balance back into the physical realm.

Note:

We probably must eventually come to intelligently speculate, research, and explore the possibility
of there being other substantially different forms of "matter" (physical space-time restricted,
mental-subtle and primordial-causal) all representing their unique kinds of objective exteriors to
subjective experiencers in a simultaneously arising and correlated way. This is how I interpret Ken
Wilber's quadrants of his Integral Theory. In any realm where some degree of duality exists and is
experienced there would simultaneously arise subjective interiors and objective exteriors and at
least three forms of "matter" would exist. Furthermore, we must remember that, besides
subjectivity and objectivity, singleness/individuality and multiplicity/collectivity would also arise in
each of the three main realms of existence. Moreover, each of these realms would simultaneously
have a distinct, complementary and mutually immanent relation with each other; sometimes
being interactive, mutually necessary in a potential-actual fashion and continuously interior to
each other or included in each other.