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ICOM CI-V interface to RS232 using transistors
pro: No external power needed.
con: Requires standard compliant serial port, may not work on all notebooks.
ICOM CI-V interface to RS232 using transistors, fits in DB9 case
pro: No external power needed.
pro: Very small, fits in DB9 connector case wit! "#D components$
con: Requires standard compliant serial port, may not work on all notebooks.
%lexander from Russia writes:
&oncerni' scematic for &()V adapter. ( drew down it from real pcb so ( specified part *alue for readable components only. +!ey all
are smd.
&, ) ceramic looks stran'e but it-s true$,
R. ) at least /..0
1, and 12 ( 'uess can be any switc! transistors.
( c!ecked t!is adapter wit! &()V 3xplorer software, e*eryt!in'-s ok.
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ICOM CI-V to RS232 interface using MAX232
+!is desi'n is in use wit! all my (&4# ri's since many years, wit!out any problems. +!e power comes directly from t!e (&4# ri', one of t!e
%56 connectors on t!e rear.
"ince t!is connector pro*ides "17 open, closed$ information as well, i !a*e fed t!is line t!rou'! t!e #%6282 to t!e R"282 &+" si'nal and
can use it in my software.
3xternal *iew of !omebrew interface wit! 9 connectors to ri's.
(nternal *iew. Not pretty, but it works :)$
ICOM CI-V interface circuit
% si'n for D)"5B 9pin connector
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A design with opto isolation by Gary Dion.
He writes in May 2001:
I built one of the designs (the one by Nigel, KG7SG) and it worked great. However, being the paranoid type I decided to design my own
electrically isolated version. I figure it would be preferred in a field day situation with questionable rig grounding.
The biggest challenge was powering the optos on the radio side. The 8v line coming from the 706 can source at most 10 mA (per spec).
This design pulls an average of less than 0.5 mA. This voltage can be pulled from either the ACC connector or the michrophone jack. If
the microphone jack is already being used, it is likely connected to an isolated audio interface. Many isolated audio interface degins
already exist, so I decided not to include that on the schematic.
I love being able to find -and share- all this stuff on the web... -Gary
Icom CI-V Interface
Design by K4PWO
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=& "erial =ort, &()V (nterface and Radio &onnections
R")282 =& 2.)pin =ort =& 9)pin =ort &()V =& Board Radio
>D+R 2/ 9 ;,
?ND @ . ;2, ;A ?ND
+6 2 8 ;8
R6 8 2 ;9
;. (:4
>=ower is BstolenB from t!e =&-s D+R line. "ome =&-s mainly laptops$ do
not !a*e enou'! current to power t!e interface. (n t!at case, you may use a
9 *olt battery or ot!er 9 to ,. *olt source wit! positi*e to pin ;, and ne'ati*e
to ;2 or ;A. %lso, a few older =&-s swapped R6 and +6 on t!eir serial ports.
Desi'n by %C961.
Icom CI-V Computer Interface For Computerized Rig Control or Loggin

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Note: 4n t!e miniature electrolytics, t!e ne'ati*e lead is t!e s!orter lead and is marked wit! B/B in a w!ite band
DB9 "erial =ort &onnections
+!e DB9 serial port pin 2 is t!e RxD and is applied to t!e 7+&,8D8 pin ,9
+!e DB9 serial port pin 8 is t!e +xD and is applied to t!e 7+&,8D8 pin ,8
+!e DB9 serial port pin . is a common 'round in t!e circuit
+!e DB9 serial port-s D+R pin 9$ and R+" pin @$ supply *olta'e to t!e input lead , of t!e @D7/. . *olt re'ulator. Eou s!ould be able to
measure F. *olts output between lead 8 output$ and lead 2 'round$ of t!e re'ulator wit! a di'ital *oltmeterG$. Volta'e is applied to pin ,A
of t!e 7+&,8D8.
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1+E Description R" part H &ost:=iece +otal cost
, 7inear 7+&,8D8 .* R"282 to ++7 con*erter
9//)A9/@ I..A8 I..A8
2 Cerrite Beads 9//).//. I/.2. I/../
2 22 uf ,A *olt electrolytic caps 9//)@AA. I/.,. I/.8/
9 /.9@ uf electrolytic capacitors 9//)@A@9 I/.,9 I/..A
2 ,N.D,D diodes 9//)8,@D I/.99 I/.9D
2 ,u< RC c!okes 9//)99.9 I/.99 I/.9D
, ,//pf capacitor 9//)22/, I/.,A I/.,A
, @D7/. . *olt re'ulator 9//)999, I/.8A I/.8A
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, DB9 Cemale &onnector "ee text I/.// I/.//
, ,:DB miniature p!one plu' 9,/)/@.. I/.D9 I/.D9
?R%ND +4+%7 I,/.8A
What rigs will this work with?
+!e answer is found in your manual. (f t!e &+),@ is listed as an option, t!is circuit s!ould work. &!eck t!e back of t!e ri' ) t!e &+),@ interface
is usually labeled BR3#4+3B and requires a ,:D inc! mono p!one plu'. +!ese ri's s!ould be 4J: (&)@A,, @A., @/A, @.A, @@., @D,, @9A, 2@,,
9@,, 2@., 9@., @2., @2A, @2D, @8., @8A, @8@, 9@/, R@,, R@2, R@//, R@///, R@,//, and R9///. "ome older (coms like t!e @.,a required a
56,9 option since t!ey were &()(V and not &()V. %nd some ri's wit! di'ital readout like t!e (&)@/, lack t!e internal microprocessor to be able
to be controlled by computer.
Do I Need to do anything to my rig to set it up?
4nce a'ain, read your manual. +!e software will want to know t!e ri'-s &()V %ddress and its baud rate. Cor more modern transcei*ers, set t!e
menus for B+ranscei*e #odeB, and B%utoB Baud Rate. Cor example, on my (&)@9A, t!e address is .A! and baud rate is set to %uto. ( tried all
software at rates up to t!e maximum of ,9,2// baud and t!e @9A reco'niKed t!em all. (f your older radio !as a fixed baud rate, be sure to set
your software to matc!.
What Software Can I Use?
L (&)@9A software R")@9A$ looks so muc! like a real (&)@9A, it is scaryG (t can be found at: !ttp:::www.e'roups.com:files:(&@9A
)))re'ister for e)'roups to download if you don-t mind lookin' at a @9A onscreen, you can e*en use t!is software to operate t!e (&)@/A if you
put in its &()V %ddress$. ( don-t belie*e t!at t!is software is BfreeB, so contact (com to re'ister.
L "oftware for t!e (&)@/A, @/A#k((, and @.A can be found at: !ttp:::www.!alcyon.com:amre':
+!is software de*eloped by t!is dedicated 'roup of !ams is CR33G
L +R6)#ana'er is from 7aurent, CAD36 in Crance and offers a free time:use limited$ demo. (t !as t!e most features by far and does some
lo''in' too. <i'!ly Recommended. 0orks wit! most (com models: !ttp:::www.trx)mana'er.com:
L E= 7o' =ro'ram 7o''in' wit! some feature:frequency control$: !ttp:::www.nucleus.com:Mfield:yplo'.!tml
0!ere can ( learn more about &()V &odes and also !ow do ( test my newly constructed interfaceN
%s for pro'rammin' t!e &()V interface, 3kki DC94R, is one of t!e worlds experts. <e !as a 'reat site at !ttp:::www.plic!t.de:ekki:ci*
Lots of info and other CI-V interface circuits besides mine.
%%AE1 !as de*eloped excellent freeware called B&()V &ommanderB. Eou can *erify t!at t!e 7+&,8D8 is sendin' commands in bot! directions
and t!at t!e circuit is wired correctly. (n fact, anyone buildin' t!e interface s!ould try t!is software to *erify t!at t!ey built t!e interface
properly and t!at t!eir (com-s &()V address, baudrate, etc. are set correctly: !ttp:::www.qsl.net:ci*Ocommander:
(t is also a 'reat tool to learn about &()V commands
0ill t!is circuit !elp me do computer)based ""+V, R++E, ="J8,, 3+&N
No. +!ese modes require an interface to your soundcard, speaker and mic. "ee t!ese references:
"oundcard (nterfacin': !ttp:::www.qsl.net:wm2u:interface.!tml
="J8,: !ttp:::aintel.bi.e!u.es:psk8,.!tml
""+V: !ttp:::www.siliconpixels.com:
&an ( !ook up multiple (com radios in parallel on t!e interface as wit! t!e ori'inal &+),@N
(-m not sure untested as of yet$. 3ac! radio must !a*e its own unique address so if you were lucky enou'! to !a*e two (&@.A=ros, one of
t!em would !a*e to !a*e its default address c!an'ed in t!e setup menu$. %lso, one knowled'eable !am:en'ineer named #ario #ariPan
#iletic, ".A%, N,E5$ !as su''ested a modification to my circuit to limit t!e current on t!e &()V bus to . ma. <e states t!at t!is will eliminate
t!e possibility of software errors if multiple radios are connected in parallel. <ere is a dia'ram of !is su''estion. (t will require 2 additional
parts, so you mi'!t want to order t!ese up front if you would like to try !is su''estion:
Will this interface work with my Yaesu, Ten-Tec or Kenwood?
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"ome +en)+ec-s need a le*el con*erter Pust like t!e (com-s, so ( !a*e a feelin' t!is circuit will work as)is. Eaesu splits t!eir ++7 lines into
Bserial inB and Bserial outB ) so you s!ould be able to use separate leads from (& pins ,, and ,2 wit! t!eir own c!okes and ,//pf caps to
'round$ as well as t!e 'round connection. Eou would t!en use a 2 conductor s!ielded cable to t!e proper siKed D(N plu' for your model Eaesu.
=in ,, would 'o to Bserial inB, pin ,2 to Bserial outB and s!ield to 'round on t!e Eaesu D(N plu'. +!is !as not been tested, so let me know !ow
t!is works. +!e Jenwood is a bit more complex from w!at ( !ear. #any models use an (C,/ interface in addition to a ++7:R"282 interface. Eou
may be able to adapt my circuit to include a !ex con*erter (& from pins ,, and ,2 and power it from t!e same . *olt source. =lease let me
know if you are successful.
Theory of Operation
+!e (&4# &+),@ R"282 computer le*el con*erter is bot! costly and requires external power. By usin' a c!eap, readily a*ailable ultra low
power ++7 to R"282 con*erter (&, t!e 7inear 7+&,8D8, one can make a self)contained unit, w!ic! deri*es its power from t!e serial port itself.
%lt!ou'! t!e (B# =& serial port was desi'ned wit!out a D& power pin, early mouse desi'ners fi'ured out a way to squeeKe some low)current
D& power from R+" or D+R lines or from B4+< in t!e case of t!e desi'n s!own abo*e$. +!e 7+&,8D8 draws only about 22/u% at . *olts ) far
less t!an most mouse circuitry. +!e abo*e circuit s!ould work wit! Pust about any serial port, includin' some ot!erwise finicky =& laptop ports.
+!e 7+& ,8D8 (& does all t!e work and requires only 9 capacitors to c!ar'e t!e internal pump circuits. %lt!ou'! one can use tiny /.,uf
non)polariKed caps for t!e 9 c!ar'e caps, ( c!ose some /.9@uf miniature polariKed radial electrolytics to be extra sure of speedy response
times in t!e !eat of D6 ; . %ll parts are a*ailable at t!e time of t!is writin' online from Radio"!ack.com, but mi'!t be !ard to find at t!e retail
stores. ( !a*e no affiliation to Radio "!ack, but enPoy t!eir excellent website and *ariety of fairly c!eap parts.
( c!ose to use some pre)punc!ed 'eneral purpose D(= circuit board, a ,A)pin D(= socket, 9 standoffs, 2 'rommets and a tiny aluminum case to
wire t!e circuit ) w!ic! would add about IA to t!e cost. %nal)retenti*e !ams can etc! and drill t!eir own circuit boardsG (-m sure some
industrious !ams will fi'ure out a way to packa'e t!e w!ole circuit inside a DB9 s!ellG
(nstead of purc!asin' a DB9 female connector, ( pilfered t!e connector and cable from an old broken #icrosoftQ serial mouse. ( not only 'ot a
BfreeB DB9 connector, but ( found t!at t!e 9 conductor s!ielded cable used by t!e mouse already !ad my . connections made to t!e ri'!t pinsG
( e*en used a couple of feet of t!e same cable after cuttin' off t!e 8 unused leads$ as a sin'le conductor s!ielded cable to run from t!e
aluminum box to t!e ,:D inc! miniature p!one plu' for my (&)@9A. 4ne builder found t!at !e !ad a s!ort in !is mouse cable, so definitely test
it t!orou'!ly before usin' my mouse su''estion. (f t!e t!ou'!t of !armin' an innocent mouse is too !ard to take, buy a db9 female and
plastic or metal s!ell.
(#=4R+%N+: (f you want to use a DB2. serial connector instead, remember t!at t!e 'round pin is @, D+R is pin 2/, R+" is pin 9, +xD is pin 2
and RxD is pin 8G +!is would certainly 'i*e you more room in t!e casin' to !ouse t!e circuitry if you decide to 'o t!at route.
% note about t!e ferrite beads. 4rder two of part number 9//).//.. ( recei*ed 2 packs of 2. beads and wasted I/.2.. But ot!ers !a*e only
recei*ed 2 beads and were !appy t!at t!ey ordered quantity B2BG "o life is like a box of c!ocolates. Eou won-t know w!at you 'et till you open
t!e Radio "!ack box.
1uestions, comments, p!otos of your creations, etc. are welcome to 'ro*emanR!ome.com. %lt!ou'! ( built a workin' unit from t!ese
instructions, ( make no claims or warranties about t!e suitability or correctness of t!ese circuits or recommendations. ( am not an en'ineer
and ( don-t play one on +V. &opyri'!t, 2///, <oward ?ro*eman JDA55
G3VGR Icom CI-V Interface
(com appears to deli'!t in c!ar'in' outra'eous prices for all transcei*er accessories,
so many <ams impro*ise instead. % few circuits !a*e been publis!ed for &()V
interfaces, most of w!ic! use t!e #%6282 (&. <ere is a *ery simple &()V interface,
ori'inally described by 4J20E. (-*e made small c!an'es to t!e modem control
si'nals connections. %lt!ou'! t!e circuit doesn-t conform exactly to t!e R")282
specification, it does work well and !as t!e ad*anta'e of bein' easily constructed
inside a 9 pin D)type s!ell. =lease note t!at t!e resistor *alue 9J@ means 9@// o!ms.
+!e transistor types are not critical, ( Pust !appen to !a*e plenty of 2N2222%s.
(-*e used it on *arious =&-s and a Dell 7atitude Notebook wit! bot! an (&@8. and
(&@/A#k((?. No problems !a*e been experienced e*en at ,92// baud wit! t!e
(&@/A, so ( would definitely recommend t!is simple interface. (f a =++ function is
required from t!e &4# port, use pin @ R+"$ to pro*ide t!is function.

<ere are some links to software for use wit! &()V controlled (com ri's:
&()V +est by DC94R ) Creeware pro'ram to test &()V bus
&()V &ommander by %%AE1 ) Creeware pro'ram to control (com ri's and monitor &()V bus
(&@/A #emory #ana'er by ?9C3V ) Creeware pro'ram to load (&@/A memories
E=74? by V3AE= ) "!areware (com Ri' control and lo''in' pro'ram
, 12 1998 , .14 1.
, 4 2000 , .14 2.
-, 12, .38 3.
CQDL, 1 2000 , .27 4.
CQDL, 1 2001 , .37 5.
!, " "" #$ % & !'( ) ) ) ) ) #. * #)*
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Circular Connectors
Manuf. of #ano & Micro Miniature $nterconnects & Custom Connectors
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