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5e /85"24(SC is in (0: /eros as well as te #.1 Diesel versions. ;t is also called te 5"24(SC 3/8"%#- /"<(20- /M0-
/80/2=L6 and 5"24#SC 3/"%#6.
Recommended "luid+ >M Part # 1&#0$#<9. ?r if *ou dont want to s!end @%$ a liter from >M ten *ou can go for te
"ord Motorcraft A5242B/8 5ransmisson fluid. =Cact same stuff but muc cea!er at @4 a Duart from *our local "ord
dealer.
Saab- as well as .olvo and "ord all recommend fluid canges at &(E intervals on tese transmissions. /nd te* reall* do
need canging ever* &(E miles because tere is no fluid filter in tese transmissions. )ust a !ic,u! screen- wic is w*
te fluid gets so dirt* so fast.
Ste! #+ Drive te car u! on ram!s- ten Fac, te rear of te car u! until it is level.
Ste! %+ Slide under *our car and loo, for te drain bolt on te bottom side of te transmission near te drivers side of
te car. >rab a !an to catc te fluid- as its about to come gusing out once tat bolt is off. >et a 5orC bit- a 5<(3Sould
be a 5<( or 5<$6 and un screw te inner bolt li,e so+
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?nce tat is off fluid will come out of te middle and let it drain com!letel*. Soudnt ta,e too long.
Ste! &+ ?nce its all drained out- get a #%mm eC bit and unscrew te drain !lug.
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; found tese at /utoGone. /bout @#( for all tree.
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5is is were te maForit* of te fluid will come out. Careful cause tis stuff is scolding ot. So ot it s!lased on m*
sunburnt arm and gave me a second degree burn and made m* s,in !eel and ever*ting... Let tat drain out com!letel*.
He sure to measure eCactl* ow muc came out because tat will be eCactl* ow muc to !ut bac, inI
Ste! <+ Refill. Jou ave two o!tions ere. 5e ard wa*- and te ard wa*.
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5e first ard wa* involves unscrewing tis P?S of a bolt.
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/s *ou can see ; stri!!ed mine- because *ou cant get good angle on it because te turbo eat sield is in te wa*. Jou
could ta,e te eat sield off- but tat involves unscrewing li,e $ ard as ell to get to #(mm bolts.
So wat to do now *ou ma* be as,ing wit a transmission tat as no fluid and no !erciveable wa* to fill it bac, u!?
Use te vent tube to fill it bac, u!I Jes tats rigt bo*s and girls- 5e /85" 4( as a vent tube attaced to te side of
te ousing tat S//H was generous enoug to attac a !iece of #K<L ose to and stic, it near te /HS module. ;t loo,s
li,e tisI
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5e end of it sould be anging around te /HS module or bra,e boosterKreservoir. 5e end of te ose will be !ointing
towards te ground. "ind it- clean it off- and stic, a tin* little funnel in it li,e so. ; ,now its ard to see te funnel at first
because its wite and m* Note % will sometimes over eC!ose !otos.
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8ile *ou still ave te drain !lug o!en on te bottom- go aead and flus about alf of a Duart of fluid troug it to
ma,e sure *ouve got te rigt ose and if tere was an* debris in te ose it will flus it out.
?nce clean fluid is !ouring out of te drain !lug- go aead and !ut it bac, in and snug it all u! down tere. 3sorr* ; dont
ave an* torDue s!ecs for *ou b* te boo, *ellow bellies- ; sim!l* tigtened it about te same amount ; would te oil
drain bolt. He careful because it is an aluminum ousing tat can stri! easil*. =s!eciall* te little tin* one inside te big
one.6
/n*wa*s. ?nce its all tigtened u!- !re!are to fill te transmission wit clean new fluid. ; did so b* Famming te ose
and funnel between te coolant reservoir and te bra,e fluid reservoir and stuffing a rag all around it in case ; s!illed
an*.
>o aead and start slowl* !ouring fluid down te ose and !re!are for te most boring ting *ou will ever do to *our car.
5rougout tis !rocess *ou will be staring at te tin* little funnel and start to Duestion wat *ou are doing wit *our life
as te fluid ta,es its sweet time dri!!ing in to te trans.
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He careful wen doing tis- because as *ou are filling te trans wit a liDuid- tere is still alot of air inside of it tat as
no were to esca!e but out of te vent tube *ou are forcing fluid down. So- Duite regularl* as te fluid is draining- te
transmission will bur! and air will come bubbling u! troug tube. 5is will ma,e Duite a mess as *ou can see from te
!ictures so be sure to ave some s!are rags and* to wi!e an* u!.
;f *ou are im!atient 3li,e ; am6 ten tere is one ting *ou can do to s!eed it u!. Remember tat little tin* bolt inside
te big drain bolt.
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Jea tat one. ;f *ou ta,e it out wile filling u! te trans- it will give te air tats tra!!ed inside somewere to go and it
will fill u! muc Duic,er.
Now wen ; drained m* trans ; ad about %.9$ Duarts come out. So as ; began to add it bac, wit te little drain !lug
o!ened on te bottom ; got about % Duarts in te transmission before fluid began to !our out of te bottom. So obviousl*
wen tat a!!ens- *ou ave no coice but to !ut te !lug bac, in and Fust sit tere and wait for it to slowl* !our in.
/ll in all- te ardest !art was Fac,ing te car u! in te rear and adding te fluid bac, was time consuming and boring as
ell. ; started draining te fluid at about ##/M and was all finised at about #%+<$. So almost about an our and a alf if
; ,new wat ; was doing and adent fougt te dam stri!!ed fill bolt.
So o!efull* someone found tis !ost el!ful- and ma*be it could even get stic,ied. Hecause it too, me about a mont to
figure out eCactl* were tat fill bolt was on te to! of te trans and to find te dam fluid.
>M recommends doing a sim!le fluid cange ever* &(E miles. /nd believe me- do it ever* &(E miles if *ou want *our
transmission to last. 5M=S= /R= N?5 LS=/L=D 5R/NSM;SS;?NSL "?R L;"= li,e some will sa*. 5e fluid in m* car was
canged at te dealer about & *ears ago at 0<E miles b* te !revious owner. ; canged mine at 1&E miles and te fluid
tat came out was HL/CE. Literall* was blac,. Didnt smell burnt or an*ting it was Fust dirt* as ell.
;ve drove about &(( miles on te new fluid so far and ; can sa* tat te downsifting as become /L?5 smooter. 5ese
transmissions ave stic,ing valve bod* issues and mine was starting to stic, and clun, on downsifts. /fter ; canged
te fluid- ; noticed an immediate im!rovement in sifting.
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/nd if an*one is wondering. Jes ; used te "ord fluid in m* >M car
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Meres te bac, of te bottle. ; underlined te im!ortant !art...
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/noter ting to note- tese siC s!eed /8 trans dont ave a filter... So tat is w* >M recommends canges ever* &(E.
5ere is onl* a small screen on te !ic,u! for te !um!. So be sure watever funnel *ou use to fill it u! wit is clean and
dont let an* sandKdirt inI

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Nice write u!. 5an,s for te eCcellent !otos too. ; found it entertaining to read too and ; donOt even ave tat
transmission.

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Nice rigt u! dude- matter of fact ; did te fluid cange toda* and *our rigt te fill !lug is a P;/. ; went troug te
trouble to remove te batter* boC to access te !lug ten used te torC soc,et wit a swivel and long eCtension. ;t too,
alot longer but for te first time not too bad. 5e torDue s!ecs are still fres if an*one wants tem- te fill !lug is %%ft lb-
drain !lug 3allen6 &&ft lb and te center tube bolt is 9ft lb or ; used inc torDue wrenc 4< in lbs.
; read in anoter tread someone used a and fluid !um! to !um! te fluid troug te tube- ; did bu* one but tereOs
no wa* *our gonna get & liters in te trans using tis metod. 5e idea sounds good but *ouOll be too sort on fluid tis
wa*.
?nl* $(E and m* fluid was dar, brown- first time cange- % more to go....
H58 ; cange m* coolant also- tat was more of a P;/....

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Nice right up dude !atter "# #act $ did the #luid cha%ge t"day a%d y"ur right the #ill plug is a P$A. $ &e%t thr"ugh
the tr"uble t" re!"'e the battery b"( t" access the plug the% used the t"r( s"c)et &ith a s&i'el a%d l"%g
e(te%si"%. $t t"") al"t l"%ger but #"r the #irst ti!e %"t t"" bad. *he t"r+ue specs are still #resh i# a%y"%e &a%ts
the! the #ill plug is 22#t lb drai% plug ,alle%- 33#t lb a%d the ce%ter tube b"lt is 7#t lb "r $ used i%ch t"r+ue
&re%ch .4 i% lbs.
$ read i% a%"ther thread s"!e"%e used a ha%d #luid pu!p t" pu!p the #luid thr"ugh the tube $ did buy "%e but
there/s %" &ay y"ur g"%%a get 3 liters i% the tra%s usi%g this !eth"d. *he idea s"u%ds g""d but y"u/ll be t""
sh"rt "% #luid this &ay.
0%ly 501 a%d !y #luid &as dar) br"&% #irst ti!e cha%ge 2 !"re t" g"....
2*3 $ cha%ge !y c""la%t als" that &as !"re "# a P$A....
5an,s for te torDue s!ecs. ;Oll edit tem in to te original !ost sortl*.
Could *ou sare a little on ow *ou canged *our coolant? Mow did *ou drain it all and ow did *ou refill it? )ust troug
te over flow tan,? Mow did *ou bleed te air out? /nd ow muc did it ta,e to rldrain and refil?

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i. tan,s for tis ow2to. will be doing it tis wee,end. stu!id Duestion- but- does m* wifes %((4 12& aero A8D ave te
same transmission as *ours? same eCact drain and fill !rocedure ; assume?

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/s long as its te %.4L .0 ten it does. ;f it is te <C*l ten it ma* ave a different trans- im not too sure... 5e onl*
difference is tere is if it was te .0 ten tere would be a transfer case sla!!ed on te bac, of *ours. but te drain and
fill !orts are in te eCact same location.
>ood luc, wit tat "ill PortI

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As l"%g as its the 2..L 45 the% it d"es. $# it is the 46yl the% it !ay ha'e a di##ere%t tra%s i! %"t t"" sure... *he
"%ly di##ere%ce is there is i# it &as the 45 the% there &"uld be a tra%s#er case slapped "% the bac) "# y"urs. but
the drai% a%d #ill p"rts are i% the e(act sa!e l"cati"%.
7""d luc) &ith that 8ill P"rt9
tan,s mate. *ea- se as te v0. cool. not loo,ing forward to tisI

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forgot to as,....are tere an* oter brands of fluid tat can be used? li,e mobil #? or are tese two te onl* coices?
tan,s.

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5ere are a few LuniversalL "luids tat claim to meet te /8# s!ec... Hut ; would not trust tese Fust to save @% a Duart.
5a,e a loo, at tis tread- lists some universals tat claim to meet te /8# s!ec+
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Hut wen te "ord "luid is onl* @4 a Duart and *ou souldnOt need an* more tan < Duarts its a safe bet. /lot better tan
!a*ing @%$ a Duart for te >M stuff

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*here are a #e& :u%i'ersal: 8luids that clai! t" !eet the A31 spec... 2ut $ &"uld %"t trust these ;ust t" sa'e <2 a
+uart.
*a)e a l"") at this thread lists s"!e u%i'ersals that clai! t" !eet the A31 spec:
http:==&&&.saabce%tral.c"!=#"ru!s=sh...d.php>t?205312
2ut &he% the 8"rd 8luid is "%ly <. a +uart a%d y"u sh"uld%/t %eed a%y !"re tha% 4 +uarts its a sa#e bet. Al"t
better tha% payi%g <25 a +uart #"r the 7M stu##
agreedI a!!arentl* te non2s*ntetic mobil &&(1 wor,s well too and itOs even cea!er.

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pretty cheap... M"bil 1 ,55221@12P1- 330A Aut"!atic *ra%s!issi"% 8luid @ 1 Buart ,Pac) "# 12- : A!aC"%.c"! :
Aut"!"ti'e
No no no noI 5at fluid 8;LL N?5 8?REI Peo!le get confused about te automatics in tese cars. 5e %.( automatics
came wit a $ s!eed auto tat ta,es tat ,ind of fluid. 5at fluid will not wor, in te /8 0 S!eed. Peo!le ave tried
before and nearl* ruined teir transmissions.
5e /8 0 s!eed needs a s!ecial mineral oil based fluid- tat is w* it is ard to find and generall* more eC!ensive.
Normal dino and s*ntetics will not wor,. 5rust me on tis one- D? N?5 US= M?H;L &&(1I ; literall* did a monts wort
of researc over man* man* different car forums all tat use te same transmission to find out all of tis stuff.

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N" %" %" %"9 *hat #luid 3$LL N0* 30D19 Pe"ple get c"%#used ab"ut the aut"!atics i% these cars. *he 2.0
aut"!atics ca!e &ith a 5 speed aut" that ta)es that )i%d "# #luid. *hat #luid &ill %"t &"r) i% the A3 5 Epeed.
Pe"ple ha'e tried be#"re a%d %early rui%ed their tra%s!issi"%s.
*he A3 5 speed %eeds a special !i%eral "il based #luid that is &hy it is hard t" #i%d a%d ge%erally !"re
e(pe%si'e. N"r!al di%" a%d sy%thetics &ill %"t &"r). *rust !e "% this "%e F0 N0* GEH M02$L 330A9 $ literally
did a !"%ths &"rth "# research "'er !a%y !a%y di##ere%t car #"ru!s all that use the sa!e tra%s!issi"% t" #i%d
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"ut all "# this stu##.
o QQQQI got itI tan,sI o,- ; read tat te &&(1 is N?5 s*ntetic- but wo wants to ta,e a cance? ;Oll go wit te
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"h IIII9 g"t it9 tha%)s9 ") $ read that the 330A is N0* sy%thetic but &h" &a%ts t" ta)e a cha%ce> $/ll g" &ith
the M"t"rcra#t9
Jea te &&(1 is not s*ntetic- its dinosaur based oil. ;ve read about oter !eo!le !utting te &&(1 on oter car forums
tat use te /8 0 s!eed and te* said tat all of te gears would sli! and tat it wouldnOt sift rigt.
5ese trans need a fluid wit a ver* ver* ver* s!ecific viscosit*. ?nl* tese mineral based fluids meet tat viscosit*
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Jeah the 330A is %"t sy%thetic its di%"saur based "il. $'e read ab"ut "ther pe"ple putti%g the 330A "% "ther car
#"ru!s that use the A3 5 speed a%d they said that all "# the gears &"uld slip a%d that it &"uld%/t shi#t right.
*hese tra%s %eed a #luid &ith a 'ery 'ery 'ery speci#ic 'isc"sity. 0%ly these !i%eral based #luids !eet that
'isc"sity re+uire!e%t.
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*ha%)s #"r the t"r+ue specs. $/ll edit the! i% t" the "rigi%al p"st sh"rtly.
6"uld y"u share a little "% h"& y"u cha%ged y"ur c""la%t> K"& did y"u drai% it all a%d h"& did y"u re#ill it> Lust
thr"ugh the "'er #l"& ta%)> K"& did y"u bleed the air "ut> A%d h"& !uch did it ta)e t" rldrai% a%d re#il>
Unfortunatel* to do it correctl* its a P;/- ; dro!!ed te lower cover- !ut a ose on te radiator drain and let it drain in a
!an- ten filled te overflow tan,. Ran te engine for awile wit termometer in tan, till it reaced tem! fill as needed.
Jou cannot em!t* com!letel* but got about 0 Dts of $( $( in it. 5e radiator drain is a !ain was afraid tat it was going
to brea, turned it bac, and fort and lube wit wd<( a little. ;m tin,ing neCt time ma*be Fust ta,e down te !assenger
side of te cover to access te drain will see on wifes car tis wee,end.
H58 on te trans fluid t*!e- ; used =neos- full* s*n and full* com!atible wit te /sian trans. >ot it at a local foreign
!art !lace for ##.(( Bt.
#4 Dts ouc tat urt...... Mo!e tis el!s.....
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