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Do Two Computers on the Same Wi-Fi Network Have the Same IP Address?
When you are just starting to learn about networks and how IP addresses work, it can all seem a bit overwhelming, but
with a little bit of study you can understand how it all comes together. Todays SuperUser Q&A post helps a confused
reader learn about how IP addresses work for his Wi-Fi network.
Todays Question & Answer session comes to us courtesy of SuperUsera subdivision of Stack Exchange, a
community-driven grouping of Q&A web sites.
Screenshot courtesy of Linux Screenshots (Flickr).
The Question
SuperUser reader Thomas wants to know if both of the computers in his home have the same IP address:
This question might seem stupid, but I wondered if two computers on
the same Wi-Fi network have the same IP address? For example, my
dads computer and my computer at home.
If so, how does the outside world distinguish one computer from the
other (like when a server wants to send some data back to us)?
Do the two computers have the same IP address or not?
The Answer
SuperUser contributors Reaces and Abraxas have the answer for us. First up, Reaces:
Both computers are seen as having the same IP address externally.
Your router will relay requests to the originating computer and the
procedure used for this is Network address translation.
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However, if you were to try to communicating with your fathers
computer, you would use your internal addresses. These use a custom
range intended for internal use only: private address range.
Followed by the answer from Abraxas:
Here is a very quick outline of how IP addressing works in this
situation:
You have your home computer with a network interface (Ethernet port
or Wi-Fi card) and each of these have unique MAC addresses which
identify them globally.
Network interfaces are given IP addresses by your
router/modem/switch/access point. Your access point (AP) is part of
or connected to a modem/router/switch which gives the AP an IP. This
is how things look so far:
Your Computer (IP) > Access Point (IP) > Cable Modem (IP)
Here is an example of what those IP addresses might be like. In the
example, the 4th octet (the last number of each set) determines your
devices IP address, the 3 to the left of them determine the devices
network.
192.168.1.50 > 192.168.1.25 > 192.168.1.1
Essentially, in this example, the modem creates a network called
192.168.1. All devices on the network are given a different x value
(1-255), the last digit.
Here is an important distinction. There are 2 types of IPv4 IP
addresses, Public and Private. Public IP addresses are the ones you
see on the Internet (if you ping google.com you will get a public IP
address). Inside of a network you typically have a Private IP
address setup (192.168.x.x, 172.x.x.x, and 10.x.x.x) are all IP
addresses that do not exist on web servers on the Internet, they are
reserved for local networks.
Typically, your home network has a gateway which is something like
x.x.x.1 (192.168.1.1 or 10.1.1.1 for instance). This means that they
are not accessible from the outside world, they are meant to be
inside your network.
How do internal network devices get on the internet then?
If you go to Whatismyip.com, you will see an IP address listed that
is not your computer, your AP, or your modem/router. This is your
Public IP address.
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Typically your modem/router has two functions:
1. Receive an IP address from the outside world and talk to your
ISPs network with that address.
2. Create an internal network and let them talk through its external
interface.
So here, effectively, is what your modem does:
Public IP (Cable Jack) > [Modem] > Private Network (IP) >
Ethernet Ports > [Computers]
The modem bridges the public Internet to your network. requests from
your internal network get sent to your modem which forwards them to
the Internet. This way only one public IP address is needed for all
of your devices to talk to the Internet.
On the Internet side of the modem, you have an IP address assigned
by your ISP which is the one Whatismyip.com shows you. This is put
on the interface of your modem which is attached to your
cable/DSL/T1 line. The other side of the modem/router (where you
plug in your access point, switch, or computers) is given an IP
address that you can configure. The way people are able to have
servers visible to the public is that they can tell the modem things
like this: When a request comes to our PUBLIC IP ADDRESS asking for
a resource, connect that traffic to INTERNAL IP ADDRESS OF
RESOURCE.
When you send a message your computers, the IP address basically
becomes encapsulated within various headers of your data.
Ultimately, the computers seeing your traffic see the external IP
address from your modem and not your physical computers internal IP
address. More data is sent containing MAC addresses and things like
that, but essentially one public IP address can represent an entire
network of devices behind it.
More information can be found here: What is an IP address? (Or all
over the internet.)
NAT is the process by which your router translates the internal
addresses to your public address and your public incoming traffic to
the correct internal IP address.
There is a lot more to it, but that should provide the general gist
of it.