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Very simple questions COMRADES will the PSL, WWP, SP, ANARCHST and RCP gather to at least
deal with situation of pig violence in as a form of self defense or just prattle on a bout the
correct time of Praxis and go about talking of the weather(meaning nothing is done about it).
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"History knows no greater display of courage than that shown by the people of the Soviet Union."
Henry L. Stimson: U.S. Secretary of War
Take the word fear and the phrase for what, its not going to change anything out of your minds and take control of
your future.
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people going home with their feelings hurt and women passed out in the cabinet de toilette. You wait and see"
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I think you already know the answer to that.
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Though the proliferation of socialist cults is part of the problem, it is also a manifestation of a
deeper problem. The working class is disunited and indeed barely aware of its own existence.
Bottom-up local organisation is the only way forward I think. Start where you are. Beware of
the local cults parachuting their people into anything that looks like it might have some positive
dynamic, it's rarely a good result when they do. But all you can do is keep trying.
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Very simple questions COMRADES will the PSL, WWP, SP, ANARCHST and RCP gather to
at least deal with situation of pig violence in as a form of self defense or just prattle on
a bout the correct time of Praxis and go about talking of the weather(meaning nothing
is done about it).
Are you drunk?
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I think that the answer is a resounding no. I'm not sure why you would think that this would be
the case.
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Are you drunk?
Has jbeard/prometeo whatever ever written anything that wasn't complete rambling?
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Has jbeard/prometeo whatever ever written anything that wasn't complete rambling?
All of his posts used to be nonsensical one-liners, then he randomly started posting these
melodramatic sermons.
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Even with the complete unity of all left organizations throughout the entire world, this would
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only make their utter political, and ideological insignificance more blatant, and obvious for all to
see.
Unity is not achieved through collaborations and concessions. Unity is a single beating heart, a
single flame and a single struggle. Only when the Communists abandon the gods of old and take
up the cause of a new Communism can there be unity. Only when the cause of the working
people is the sole prerogative of Communists, or anarchists worldwide can there be any talk of
unity.
In the midst of this new Communism, those dedicated to the cause of the revolution, and those
petty bourgeois ideologues who take refuge in the safety of their insignificance will be known
for us all. Cults like the RCP have no place in the future of Communism - some of these
degenerate organizations are simply too far gone in the abyss of Communism's failure that there
can be no reconciliation or redemption. So let them burn with the old world, I say.
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Has jbeard/prometeo whatever ever written anything that wasn't complete rambling?
Can I just go straight to calling you an uneducated dolt? The question is a philosophical
attempt to elicit various degrees of response none of which can or ever could become reality.
Ulrike Meinhof and other German writers/philosophers of the time often gaged certain
personality types using this method.
READ BOOKS. moron.
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"History knows no greater display of courage than that shown by the people of the Soviet Union."
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Has jbeard/prometeo whatever ever written anything that wasn't complete rambling?
That's what I thought your vapid response would be. Nill.
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Apart from and in opposition to vague quasi-millennialist calls for blleding hearts united for
communism, I think the bases of any kind of unity need to be discussed.
Naturally, the first question arising is "Unity of what/who?". This can serve as good basis for
distinguishing two kinds of unity:
1) class unity - much has been written on the subject and many facets are clarified; we're
talking about the working class acting as the political subject, the group of people transforming
society in the way that's complementary to our own needs. The part wrought with tensions is
the recognition of intra-class divides and ultimately resolving these, moving beyond them,
making them a mere afterthought without effect (for instance: racial conflict, private sector v.
public sector worker on worker antagonism)
2) political unity of radical minorities
This second aspect is what this thread seems to me to be about; yet the basic idea that only
unity among American radical organizations/networks is able to produce effect on police
brutality seems to be either a) naive in that it disregards the mass working class base from
whom such action in self-defense anything can be done or b) presupposes the former yet fails
to draw out the implications and clings on to them radicals (so that distinct impression is made
that it is the current state of divide that is the major cause of inefficiency in fighting against
police brutality).
The way the debate on unity has been conducted for most part on the left was and is by
focusing on 2), on the issue of political-ideological unity; the unvoiced assumption here is
inherently substitutionist in that the basis for working class activity as a class is the activity of
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but it is here. Friedrich Engels
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