Should you punch with a horizontal fist or a vertical fist?

Which is more powerful?

Which is faster?
Which is BETTER?
It depends on who you ask. Some trainers say you should punch with a horizontal fist. Some trainers say
you should punch with a vertical fist. Factor in the various punching techniques from martial artists,
kickboxers, and other kinds of fighting styles and youll hear a dozen more conflicting views.
Ive heard arguments for all kinds of techniques and actually, everyone has a good point. Both
horizontal-fisted punches and vertical-fisted punches can be effective but first you have to know WHY
and WHEN to use them.
Read my definitive guide on punching with a HORIZONTAL FIST vs VERTICAL FIST.

Punching Technique HORIZONTAL FIST vs VERTICAL FIST
COMMON THEORIES about punching with a horizontal fist
More power because of the corkscrew motion.
More support for the wrist because it wont bend as easily when the fist is sideways.
More defense because your shoulders lift to protect your chin.
More useful because the horizontal fist can arc over your opponents arms.
The common standard in boxing gyms nowadays is to turn the hands over for a horizontal fist. They do
allow exceptions but generally the horizontal fist is preferred. The horizontal-fisted punch is the default
technique in virtually all major boxing gyms. It is the standard belief of todays boxer.
Go into any boxing gym today and your coach will most likely tell you to turn the hand over. Ive found
this to be more practical and realistic of boxing conditions.
The common arguments for horizontal-fisted punches are power and practicality.

COMMON THEORIES about punching with a vertical fist
More power because your knuckles are better aligned for the straight-arm position
More power because of full use of triceps.
Faster because of less movement.
More support for the fist and wrist because the arm is straighter.
A vertical splits through the opponents guard easier.
Less telegraphic because the elbow and shoulder movement is minimized.
Better for bare-knuckle (or less padded) fighting scenarios.
Ive found only very few boxers and boxing trainers nowadays who recommendvertical-fisted punches
as the default technique. Most people who tell me the vertical fist is better are usually martial artists
and/or people who dont box that much. There have been a few great boxers in our time who used
vertical-fisted punches but they are the exception, not the norm.
The common arguments for vertical-fisted punches are power and speed.

How Should YOU Throw Your Punches? (HORIZONTAL or VERTICAL?)
The answer to me was obvious: USE BOTH.
Its a very easy decision to make after youve spent a bit of time in the ring. Different kinds of punching
techniques allow you to do different things. And you have to trust that you will always be in a wide
variety of situations. Many of these situations will be ones that you drilled in training and on the focus
mitts. But many more of these situations will be ones that you only experience in a live fight.
You will not always be in your perfect stance. You will not always have perfect balance. You will not
always be in the very position that you need. The opportunity may not come. Your opponent may be
too different from what you trained for. And you must be flexible in order to be a good fighter.
Even if you want to limit yourself to only a certain technique, you still have to know that you will be
facing opponents who use BOTH kinds of punches. If only for the sake of understanding opponents
better, I think its worth learning both kinds of punches.
The best fighters use all kinds of punches.
Pick any pro you want, it has to be one that actually fights. You can pick a modern-day great like
Mayweather, or you can pick an old school Jack Dempsey. And then watch his footage. You will see
him/her throwing all kinds of punches.
It has to be a fighter (as in, someone who actually fights regularly), and to keep things relevant to this
website, it has to be a BOXER. Im not interested in hearing about how JKD said this and karate said
thatthis is a boxing website. Our focus here is on boxing principlesfor boxers. I will not be speaking for
other fighting arts because I dont understand them.

Advantages to Punching with a Horizontal Fist
Horizontal-fisted punches are more powerful
This is a general statement which means its true MOST of the time but not all of the time. The mains
reason are because: 1) a punch is more powerful and better supported when the elbow is behind the
fist and 2) a horizontal fist activates more of the chest and back into the punch, whereas a vertical
punch focuses more on the shoulders.
The horizontal fist position is more powerful not so much because of the rotation of the fist but rather the
rotation of the elbow. With a vertical-fisted punch, the elbow stays down and doesnt support the wrist
until the very end where the arm is extended straight. Whereas with the a horizontal-fist, the elbow
rotates and lifts up immediately supporting the wrist much sooner.
Having the elbow come up behind the fist is the key difference here. The wrist has so much more
support and delivers more power when the elbow is behind the fist to give your forearm a straighter
impact angle. Its important to know that punches can land with the arm bent at varying angles. Rarely
does the punch land when the arm is completely straight. Its more common to land punches with the
arm bent (at the elbow) to some degree, even if only minor.
Because punches are so often landed with a bent elbow, its generally more powerful to land with a
horizontal fist. When punches are landed at very close range (with a very bent elbow), youll notice the
power output greatly favors a horizontal fist over a vertical fist. Think of the optimum benchpress
position, where youre more powerful when your elbows point out sideways (using the chest) supporting
the wrists better, rather than pointing downwards (using the triceps) towards your feet.
Horizontal-fisted punches are definitely more powerful for uppercuts. The reason is because you can put
more of your back muscle into the punch. When trying to throw an uppercut with a vertical fist, youll
feel like it relies more on the shoulder.
Horizontal punches are more powerful than vertical punches, because the elbow supports the wrist
sooner.

Horizontal-fisted punches have more support
As explained by the previous point, the wrist and arm overall has more support because the elbow
comes up sooner. This is especially important not only for punching power but also for injury prevention.
Ive heard many people arguing about which direction gives the fist more support (horizontal vs
vertical) and I feel people are far too focused on the hand more-so than the rest of the arm. Ive heard
different arguments for various ways to distribute the impact across the knuckles. Some people say you
should land the first two knuckles because theyre bigger. Some people say you should land on the
middle knuckle because its right in the center of your hand and aims straight down your arm. Some
people say you should land on the last 3 knuckles because these are actually more aligned with the
arm when the arm is extended straight and the because the last 3 knuckles give a nice flat surface.
In my opinion, the angle of the fist is not the main area of importance. Whats more important to me is
the angle of the forearm at impact. If the wrist is straight and the forearm/elbow is behind the wrist and
supporting it, the impact will travel easily through the fist and down the arm. HOWEVER, if the wrist is NOT
in the right position (because the elbow is not behind it), then you have the problem of the impact
being dispersed only across the hand. This isnt to say that the position of the hand doesnt matter, it
only means that I focus more on the position of my elbow and leave my fist to land in its natural state
which should be relatively straight and well-positioned for impact.
There is also the opinion that horizontal-fisted punches have more support because youre stressing the
wrist along the long side rather than the short side. The idea here is that most punches are thrown with a
bit of a swing. And that if you impact your hand with a vertical fist, the wrist will bend much easier than if
you impact your head with a horizontal fist. I do feel there is some truth to this but again, I am more
concerned about the position of the elbow than the rotation of the fist itself.
Horizontal-fisted punches give the entire arm more support.

Horizontal-fisted punches can counter around opponents punches better
Horizontal-fisted punches are especially good at arcing around or over your opponents punches. Key
punches like the overhand right or high left hooks are far more comfortable when thrown with a
horizontal fist. The reason once again being that its not so much because of the angle of the fist but
rather because of the angle of the elbow.
Having a high elbow makes it easier for you to bend your arm for curving punches that aim sideways or
downwards at your opponent. The entire arm is far more anatomically correct and comfortable to arc
punches around your opponents punches when your fist is horizontal. Its hard to arc downwards with a
vertical fist because the elbow simply doesnt bend that way. Yes, you COULD theoretically lift your
elbow high as you throw with a vertical fist but it will not make sense (try it and see how awkward it
feels).
You may have also noticed that throwing with a low elbow might catch your arm on your opponents
forearm which prevents your fist from reaching your opponents head. A higher elbow would help clear
obstacles like the opponents shoulder and arms.
Regardless of whether or not a vertical fist is more powerful, it simply cannot deliver power at all the
same angles a horizontal-fisted punch can. The reverse is also true.
Horizontal-fisted punches are more comfortable for overhand rights and overhand left hooks.

Horizontal-fisted punches protect the chin better
Throwing punches with a horizontal-fist causes a chain reaction in your body, where your entire arm and
body is affected by the rotation of the fist, giving you slightly better protection as you punch. The
rotation of the fist is connected to the rotation of the elbow, which is then connected to the rotation of
your shoulder, and ultimately even a bit of your upper body.
When your shoulder rotates (which allows the arm to rotate), the shoulder lifts a bit giving the chin a little
more protection so your head isnt just sticking straight up out there. Your upper body also tends to turn
a little bit more when you throw horizontal-fisted punches, which also helps your defense because your
head is slightly moving to one side (making it a slight shoulder roll motion from one side while
simultaneously being a slight slipping motion to the other side).

Advantages to Punching with a Vertical Fist
Vertical-fisted punches are easier to throw
Your arms are naturally positioned for vertical-fisted punches, making them easier to throw and
requiring less energy and effort than horizontal-fisted punches. Look at the way your arms are positioned
when youre standing. When your hands are down by your side, the wrists are naturally positioned
inwards in a vertical position. It isnt until your lift your arms up that your wrists start to turn into a
horizontal position by some form of habit and/or anatomical comfort.
Vertical-fisted punches require less technique because it doesnt take much training to lift your arm up
like youre going to slap someone (vertical fist). A simple lift of your fist and youre ready to go. You may
have noticed that fighters will turn their punches over less and less as they get tired.
Vertical-fisted punches are easier to throw, and require less energy and effort.

Vertical-fisted punches are faster
Naturally, vertical-fisted punches are faster because theyre easier to throw. You may have noticed
many fighters using vertical-fisted punches for a quick potshots or shoeshine combinations. While
vertical-fisted punches are not as powerful (as horizontal-fisted punches), they can be much quicker
especially when thrown in combinations. Its easy to see how its much less work because you dont
have to lift the elbows as high and you dont need to coordinate as much rotation in your arms. All you
have to do is lift the hands and thats it. If you need the fastest combinations possible to surprise an
opponent, try a whipping out vertical-fisted punches and slapping him with your fists.
I have heard before that vertical fist are supposedly less telegraphic because there is less movement
made in your shoulders and elbows. And that the elbows staying down makes it harder to detect arm
movement. While this makes logical sense, I dont think it matters so much at the highest levels of
boxing. The reason being that skilled boxers are paying more attention to the commitment of energy
rather than the commitment of movement. Skilled fighters are paying more attention to the feeling
when you are going to strike rather than the actual movements in your body. In a high skilled fight, both
are fighters are usually always moving and always very fast so the difference in technique between a
horizontal vs vertical fist doesnt matter so much.
Vertical-fisted punches are faster, making them great for potshots or shoeshine combinations.

Vertical-fisted punches can penetrate an opponents guard better
Vertical-fisted punches are typically better at squeezing in between your opponents guard or curving
around the sides for hooking punches. The thinner profile makes it easier for a vertical-fisted jab to cut
straight up the middle between your opponents gloves. The extra sideways mobility can mm You can
also use a vertical fist to hook around your opponents gloves (to the head) or his elbows (to the body).
Its also less painful get your punched blocked if your opponent impacts the long fleshy side of your wrist
(vertical fist) rather than the thin boney side of your wrist (horizontal fist). There have been many times
when I felt pain because my opponent cut into my wrists with his elbows and forearms when he blocked
my punches.
Vertical-fisted punches can slip through the middle or hook around your opponents guard.

Vertical-fisted punches are more comfortable for throwing low punches
This principle could apply to all punches aimed at targets below your shoulder (not only body shots). For
example, when your opponent is ducking under you.
Generally speaking, anytime you throw a punch that aims at a target lower than your shoulder AND/OR
has a curve to it (hook), its more comfortable to throw it with a vertical fist. And in some cases, it may
even be more comfortable to rotate the fist even more so that you have an upside-down horizontal fist
(uppercut).
You COULD throw a straight punch downwards to the body with a horizontal-fist but there is a slight
chance your wrist may bend and cause you pain because of the angle of impact. Or what some
people will do is bend the knees so that the punch is more level to the shoulders and feels like a regular
high punch. What you definitely DONT want to do is throw any hooking type punches to the body with
a horizontal-fist.
Once again, this is has to do with putting the arm in a more anatomically correct position. If you use a
vertical fist for low punches, the elbow stays lower to support the wrist. If you use a horizontal fist for low
punches, the elbow stays higher and impacts the wrist at an angle.
Vertical-fisted punches are better for body shots.


Its all about punching STRATEGY (not technique)
Other random things Ive heard
Time to address the random things Ive heard in regards to punching with a horizontal fist vs a vertical
fist. Theres truth in all these beliefs and Ill do my best to explain why I think it does or does not matter so
much.

Vertical-fisted punches keep the elbows low to protect the body.
Ive heard random people (never a coach or actual boxer, though) say using a vertical fist keeps the
elbow down to protect your body better while punching. And while this makes some sense from a
technical standpoint, it makes zero sense from a strategic standpoint.
First off, what are you committing to? The defensive act of protecting your body? Or the offensive act
of striking your opponent? Either your arms are protecting you, or theyre used for attacking. I dont see
how you can fully commit to extending your fist for a punch while holding your elbows down to protect
your body.
From a boxers standpoint, we have many skills and strategies to deal with this. For example, we have
special skills that allow us to punch freely without having to rely on the arms for defense. We know how
to time our counters, use slipping or rolling motions to defend our body so we dont have to block all the
time.
Ive actually heard theories that lifting the elbow is considered MORE defensive than keeping them
down. Rotating the fists for horizontal fists lift your arms and elbows up, making it harder for opponents to
throw counter punches over them. The shoulders are also lifted to give the chin more protection. Ive
heard people say its a good idea to throw hooks with high elbows so that if your punch misses, your
elbow might land. Mike Tyson was known for doing this.
Most importantly of all, you have to factor strategy into the equation. What is going on? Is your
opponent a shorter guy throwing many hooks at your ribs? Or is he a taller guy trying to land long
counters over the top? What about your strategy? Are you standing tall or crouching down? Are you
trying to bring your counters over the top, or are you trying to fire under and through his guard? Nobody
should fight with a default technique without first understanding the strategic implications of using
specific techniques.

Horizontal fist takes the shoulder out of position.
By out of position, we are talking about the shoulder being lifted and further separated from the
upper torso. It does make some sense. The shoulder does feel more engaged and perhaps more
powerful for energy transfer when the shoulder is locked in tight against your upper body. There is truth
to this as I feel similar differences in strength when I change my shoulder position while doing a bench
press. Having the shoulders down and locked in allows me to use more of the stronger chest and lat
muscles, whereas having the shoulders out seems to isolate and rely more on the weaker shoulder
muscles.
I have two important technical theories on addressing this concern:
You should be activating the LAT MUSCLE during all punches. Its very easy to curve your body
forward or lean forward to the point where your punching power seems to spill out over the top
of your shoulder. This is especially common when fighters are trying to reach in during jabs or
crosses. If anything, try to imagine your power spilling out from UNDER your shoulder (imagine
the power coming from your armpit and inside of your arm, rather than from the top of your
shoulder and outside of your arm). This lat muscle activation is a slight sharp contraction that is
timed with the punch. Its not a tense squeezing contraction.
Your punching technique must RELEASE the arm. This goes back to the argument about snapping
punches vs pushing punches. If youre throwing PUSHING PUNCHES, then yes, its perhaps better
to keep the shoulder in so you can push harder. On the other hand, if youre a SNAPPING
PUNCHER, then you need to release the shoulder along with the arm so it can snap out more
powerfully.
If you dont already know by now, I support snapping punches as being far superior to pushing
punches. Im not alone in this as many other trained fighters, pro boxers, and trainers, etc all feel the
same way. If you talk to a pro boxer, you may have heard him say, You have to pop the shoulder
when you throw the right hand. This popping of the shoulder refers to the release of the shoulder. In
other words, you are releasing your shoulder from its socket the same way you release your fist from your
shoulder. The snapping punch would now become more powerful because youre releasing your entire
arm as a projectile. The shoulder is snapping forwards with the fist. This makes punches like the right cross
FARRRRR more powerful and also faster.
So again, the decision to lock or release your shoulder depends on whether you want to throw
snapping punches or pushing punches. Pushing punches hold the entire arm in to form a strong beam
to push into the opponent. Snapping punches release the entire arm to whip out and smack the
opponent. Regardless of what you do with your arm, its important not to forget that your punching
power comes mainly from your core! And youll find that if you use your core correctly, you can do
almost anything with your arm and your punch will still be powerful.

Vertical punches are straighter than horizontal punches.
Are vertical-fisted punches really straighter? And does it matter so much? Are you always throwing
straight punches? (Not me, many of my punches have some curve or bend in the elbows.) What about
when an opponent is right in front of you and youre doing inside fighting?
And even when you do throw straight punches, are you really extending ALL the way out? I could
imagine a jab coming all the way out but not so much with a right hand. You have to ask, are you
hitting with the arm or with the body? If youre generating and hitting with the force of the body, it
doesnt really matter how the arm is bent. This is actually a very advanced concept that beginners
sometimes do not and cannot understand. If youre using technique that relies on arm position to
generate force, then youll definitely experience a decrease in power when the arm changes shape. If
your technique relies primarily on the core, well then youll be free to bend and twist your arm anyway
you like.

Old school boxers, Jack Dempsey, whoever, said to use vertical fist.
Ive heard it, too. That old school boxers came from the era of bare-knuckled fighting and that they
didnt have the benefit of modern gloves with all the extra padding and support. And that the vertical
fist protected their hands better. That the vertical fist aligns the knuckles better so the hands dont break
during impact. Or that vertical-fisted punches may be better for the hand when impacting against hard
surfaces such as an opponents head.
While I do agree that perhaps the old school boxers did throw more vertical-fisted punches, they also
still used horizontal-fisted punches. You can watch any old school footage you like and see for yourself.
There are moments where you can clearly see the glove in a horizontal position. At high-speed
moments where you cant see the gloves, the giveaway can be seen in the elbows. As Ive said above,
a higher elbow will usually be linked to a horizontal fist.

Bruce Lee, JKD, Kung-fu, martial arts guys say to use a vertical fist.
I have yet to see any ANY martial arts fighter, in film OR in person, using a vertical-fisted punch, and
throwing as hard as todays knockout boxers.
Take a look at Julian Jackson, Mike Tyson, Tommy Hearns, Roy Jones Jr, Prince Naseem, Manny
Pacquiao. The list goes on and on. Find any martial artist who can throw VERTICAL fisted punches with
anywhere near the power of these boxers. Ive seen martial artists breaking boards and landing
knockout punches but none with the amount of power as a boxer.
Ive personally felt the power of many martial artists in person several times. Some of them have been
practicing their disciplines for 5, 10, 20 yearscame into our gym to spar with boxers and didnt punch
anywhere near as hard as even a 3-year amateur boxer. Not only were they deficient in power, but also
lacked the speed, fluidity, coordination, and versatility of angles and combination punches. They threw
maybe 2 or 3 different punches over and over and were exhausted within a few rounds.
Perhaps it IS possible to throw devastating punches with a vertical fist, I have yet to see it done with
regularity outside of the boxing setting. And the vertical-fisted punches that boxers throw are quite
different in technique and application from the ones thrown by martial arts practitioners. Regardless of
the punching technique being used, I would still rate the boxers punching technique over that of a
martial artist.

What is the GOAL of your punch?
What are you trying to do?
Saying, I want to turn my fist because its more powerful. wont do anything for you. It doesnt make
sense to pick your technique before picking your goal.
What are you aiming for? (HEAD or BODY?)
What distance is between you and your opponent? (NEAR or FAR?)
What angle are you trying to punch at? (STRAIGHT or AROUND?)
What angle are you trying to punch from? (TALL or CROUCHED or ANGLED?)
What effect do you want? (Fast setup shot or Powerful damage shot?)
Its not always about which punch has more power or more speed. Depending on the situation, either
one could be the more powerful or more fitting weapon. Ultimatelythe most anatomically correct
and natural position in the moment, will be your best option.
Youll find its not really about the rotation of the fist but more-so, the movement of the entire body. If
anything, I dont even pick my punching technique. I dont actually DECIDE during the fight whether I
want a horizontal fist or a vertical fist. I simply let it happen. I put my body into the position I want and
then let my hands go in the most natural way possible. In that moment, the fist rotates naturally,
organically, because thats the way it feels most comfortable. (It goes without saying, that I have
trained and become natural with many techniques so my body relies on well-trained muscle memory
during a fight. An untrained fighter has no muscle memory and will only have AWKWARD reflexes while
fighting.)
Fighting is something that takes time and experience. After years of doing something, you start to be
more in tune and able to listen to your body and find newer and easier ways to do things. You become
more able to let your body move the way it wants to move. No more wasting energy to force an
awkward movement. The ONLY way to generate maximum force is through natural body movement.
You have to be natural! Let your body move within its natural limits, the way it was SUPPOSED to move!
Let your body move naturally if you want maximum power.

The goal of the arm is to deliver the power, NOT generate the power.
Remember, it is your core and legs that generate the power. The arm is only there to deliver the power,
nothing else. The best thing the arm can do is position itself to offer the most support during the impact.
And the ultimate goal of rotating your fist is to support your hand and wrist with your forearm and elbow.
You want to land your punches with a straight line formed from your fist to your elbow. And then of
course, the elbow can bend at whatever degree it needs to give you the punching angle you need.
To find out which fist rotation is better. Try holding your fist at the height and angle of the punch you
want to throw, and rotate your elbow and fist back and forth to see which position gives you the best
forearm support. You can also move your fist back and forth to see which hand/elbow position gets the
forearm support there faster.

What does it MEAN to be HORIZONTAL vs VERTICAL?
This is a trick question. What is the point of reference? Are we talking about the fist being horizontal-vs-
vertical IN REFERENCE TO THE GROUND?
For me, the POINT OF REFERENCE IS THE TORSO, and NOT the ground. This means that if your fist is
parallel to your spine, it is VERTICAL. And if your fist is parallel to your shoulders, it is
HORIZONTAL.
This distinction is so incredibly important to make because the anatomical ranges of the fist and arm
relate to the body, and not the ground. And the differences in technique caused by the rotation of the
fist affect your body, not the ground.
So how does knowing this change the way you look at fist positions?
JABS If you stand straight up and throw a typical jab (with the palm facing down at impact), thats
a horizontal fist, right? Now what if you bend over and throw a jab to the body? Youll notice
that this might actually be considered a vertical fist because your spine is bent over.
RIGHT HANDS If you keep your weight at center and throw a right hand landing with the palm
down, thats a horizontal fist, right? But what if youre leaning forward and coming in with an
overhand right? Is that a horizontal fist or a vertical fist? This could be considered a vertical fist
without you realizing it. You may notice that have a true horizontal fist from this position would
require the fist rotating almost upside-down, which is what some fighters will do.
LEFT HOOKS Try throwing a left hook while shifting your weight to your back foot. Then try throwing a
left hook while keeping your weight on your front foot. Now try throwing a left hook to the body
while leaning your weight a bit beyond the front foot. You will notice that the more forward you
place your body, the more your fist rotates comfortably towards a vertical fist position. And the
further back you place your body, the more your fist rotates comfortably towards a horizontal
fist position.
UPPERCUTS Try throwing an uppercut with your body right at the center. Then try throwing uppercuts
with KEEPING your body to one side (tilt left for left uppercuts, tilt right for right uppercuts). You
will notice that uppercuts where your body is at center feel more horizontal-fisted. And that
uppercuts where your body leans to one side feel more vertical-fisted. Now try both again but
keep your elbows tight to your bodyit should feel more horizontal again. I wont tell you which
is better because youll need both depending on where your opponent is exposed.


Is my right hand horizontal or vertical?
If the point of reference is the ground, the fist looks horizontal.
If the point of reference is my body, the fist actually looks more vertical.
Do you see what I mean?
As you explore more with different body positions, you will discover better and more comfortable
positions for your arm. The tilt or your body and where you place your weight at the moment of impact
has a great impact on how should you place your arm for maximum comfort AND power.
My grand point isyour fist might actually be in a vertical-fisted position even though it is horizontal to
the ground. And that its not always so clear to define a horizontal-fisted punch from a vertical-fisted
punch. Either way, I dont care. Use what fits in your situation and gives you the best comfort and most
power!
The ultimate goal of choosing horizontal vs vertical is comfort and power.

Its about strategy, NOT technique.
In the end, talking about horizontal-fist vs vertical-fist is really talking about strategy. And its helpful to
have different strategies to win fights. The more ways you can adapt to your opponent, the better.
Horizontal punches and vertical punches allow you to do different things. And to blindly follow one way
would limit you from the strategic advantages of the other.
Its so much less about the fist and much more about allowing your body to take advantage of different
angles of attack. You are not always in one position and not always attacking in the same manner. For
whatever reason, one technique will be more effective than the other simply because of the way the
situation unfolds itself. And it makes no sense to pick the less effective technique simply because of
some predisposed bias.
Watch all the greatest fighters and you will see that they utilize a wide variety of positions, techniques,
and strategies!
HORIZONTAL PUNCHES vs VERTICAL PUNCHES is really a discussion about strategy, NOT technique. A
good fighter can use both.