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Last night over the Pacific Ocean, somewhere South of the Russian peninsula Kamchatka I experienced the creepiest thing so far in my flying career.
After about 5 hours in flight we left Japan long time behind us and were cruising at a comfortable 34.000ft with about 4,5 hours to go towards Alaska.
We heard via the radio about earthquakes in Iceland, Chile and San Francisco, and since there were a few volcanos on our route that might or might not
be going off during our flight, we double checked with dispatch if there was any new activity on our route after we departed from Hongkong.
Then, very far in the distance ahead of us, just over the horizon an intense lightflash shot up from the ground. It looked like a lightning bolt, but way more
intense and directed vertically up in the air. I have never seen anything like this, and there were no flashes before or after this single explosion of light.
Since there were no thunderstorms on our route or weather-radar, we kept a close lookout for possible storms that might be hiding from our radar and
might cause some problems later on.
I decided to try and take some pictures of the night sky and the strange green glow that was all over the Northern Hemisphere. I think it was sort of a
Northern Lights but it was much more dispersed, never seen anything like this before either. About 20 minutes later in flight I noticed a deep red/orange
glow appearing ahead of us, and this was a bit strange since there was supposed to be nothing but endless ocean below us for hundreds of miles around
us. A distant city or group of typical Asian squid-fishing-boats would not make sense in this area, apart from the fact that the lights we saw were much
larger in size and glowed red/orange, instead of the normal yellow and white that cities or ships would produce.
The closer we got, the more intense the glow became, illuminating the clouds and sky below us in a scary orange glow. In a part of the world where there
was supposed to be nothing but water.
The only cause of this red glow that we could think of, was the explosion of a huge volcano just underneath the surface of the ocean, about 30 minutes
before we overflew that exact position.
Since the nearest possible airport was at least 2 hours flying away, and the idea of flying into a highly dangerous and invisible ash-plume in the middle of
the night over the vast Pacific Ocean we felt not exactly happy. Fortunately we did not encounter anything like this, but together with the very creepy
unexplainable deep red/orange glow from the ocean's surface, we felt everything but comfortable. There was also no other traffic near our position or on
the same routing to confirm anything of what we saw or confirm any type of ash clouds encountered.
We reported our observations to Air Traffic Control and an investigation into what happened in this remote region of the ocean is now started.
Two photos included, hardly edited except for watermark and resize. Note that photos are taken with extremely high ISO (sensor sensitivity) so quality
might be a bit poor. Also an overview of our route + marking of the location is included.
Now I'm just hoping that if a new island has been formed there, at least it can be named after me as the official discoverer. :)
That would be pretty cool!
UPDATE: Added 4 new photos and google-earth map with underwater geography
One of the photos shows our landing lights illuminating the sky ahead since we were afraid we might be encountering an ashcloud. We entered a thin layer
of clouds 5 minutes after passing the red glow, but no ash was detected or encountered.
UPDATE (Aug 31st):
I've created a little list with all the different scenarios and theories that have been suggested and that are being researched at this moment.
MOST COMMON THEORIES:
1. UFOs
Proof for:
- The lights are as of yet unidentified and so without clear explanation we cant totally rule out alien UFOs
- When all else fails, blame aliens.
Problems with this theory:
- These lights are inconsistent with more then 70 years of UFO reports according to FAA intelligence.
- UFO reports of last 60 years have many common characteristics and these lights do not share those characteristics, other than being unexplained and
in the middle of nowhere.
- No evidence that these lights were associated with flying objects.
Verdict: Probably not a UFO or fleet of UFOs.
2. Underwater Volcano
Proof For:
- This would explain the deep red colors, and could also account for green/white since sometimes volcanos produce different colored flames.
- The position is near the ring of fire and close to a lot of volcanic activity
- Being so far out in the open ocean leaves few other explanations.
- Lots of seismic and tectonic activities in the preceding days, both around the Pacific Rim, but also worldwide
- The flash of light could be ash cloud lightning which is common with volcanic eruptions.
Problems with this theory:
- No associated seismic activity that can be found. The Center WX unit in the USA has no information on any volcanic/seismic activity
- Light produced by an underwater volcano would most likely be non-symmetrical, vary in shape, size, and brightness. These lights are very similar &
uniform in characteristics.
- No ash cloud to explain the bright flash
Verdict: Still a good possibility, but the more research I do the less likely this is becoming. An underwater volcanic eruption could have eruptions in
similar patterns and intensity, but unlikely. Cannot rule out the possibility of an underwater eruption.
3. Squid Fishing Boats:
Proof for:
- Lights are in a symmetrical pattern, and fairly uniform size/shape/luminosity characteristics to suggest artificial lighting
- Squid fishing lights are very bright - around 30,000 watts (equal to 500 car headlights). Being diffused by a thin cloud layer would be consistent with size
and luminosity of the lights youve photographed.
- There is satellite evidence of large concentrated squid fishing operations offshore in other parts of the world. These images resemble what I've
photographed, although *not red* which leads to....
Problems with the squid theory:
- I can only find green and white lighting on squid boats, and never red. The photos in question are predominately red. The satellite shots
(of other squid boat ops) are all greenish/white
- Two experienced pilots who witnessed firsthand are confident the lights were not fishing boats
- The closest large port is Petropavlovsk, 376 miles (605km) away from the lights. Hokkaido is 800 miles away. Im not sure if commercial fishing vessels
commonly go this far or not.
- Commercial squid fishing takes place over the continental plate or on the edge of it. These lights were observed very far away from the continental plate,
with deep sea all around. Making squid-fishing highly unlikely.
- Red lights are not penetrating the blue seawater deeply because of its frequency. That is the reason green/white lights are always used. Red lights are
totally unusable for attracting fish.
Lightsources are much larger then normally observed with fishing ships, including squid-fishing ships.
- The initial flash of light would most likely be unrelated
Verdict: Very unlikely. A commercial squid fishing fleet would not use these color of the lights since this does not provide any good light for fishing squid.
Nor would they fish at this position so far from the continental plate. Possibly another type of fleet, perhaps non commercial (military).
4. Military fleet conducting;
Possible massive Russian navy exercise/weapon-test/salvage operation
Proof for:
Close to Petropavlovsk, one of the largest Russian navy bases and home to the Pacific Nuclear submarine fleet at the Rybachy base, just South of
Petropavlovsk naval base.
Large US-navy exercises at the same day and time South of Japan and publicly announced (and failed) US weapon test with hypersonic missile out of
Alaska that same day (24th of August)
Political tension between the West and Russia could cause the Russian navy to test new weapons and organize large fleet exercises.
Military fleets often use red lights to illuminate their ships at night
Seize and scale of sighting is consistent with massive military operation like a weapon test or salvage operation
Flash of light could indicate a possible weapon/rocket test
Salvage operation could be possible because of large fleet of under-maintained nuclear submarines operating from base close by. Large scale salvage
operation would be expected if a sub, armed with an array of valuable nuclear missiles, would go missing close to port.
Location would be logical for a weapon/rocket test. Not in any fishing area or near commercial shipping lanes, deep sea, far from civilized world, close to
large navy base, likely radiation from Fukushima would shield possible nuclear radiation/waste from a nuclear weapon-test in the deep sea current coming
from Japan. Theories about Fukushima radiation being used/abused for hiding radiation-effects for military tests are widely spread
Problems with Military fleet conducting:
- Unannounced, large Russian exercise or weapon tests outside of Russian territory/waters are not likely
Lights were far too bright for night illumination of military vessels, they would even blind their own personnel. Some lights were white and green,
inconsistent with uniform red color for military fleet
Airways were not closed for civilian/commercial aviation (as normal for military exercises and weapon tests)
No NOTAMS (Notice To AirMen) in preflight briefing of airspace about possible military activities in this area, so an unannounced/secret operation would
be logical if it is a military operation... but;
if it was a secret operation, strong lights are not logical. They attract a lot of attention at night from commercial aviation
Verdict; Possible, but strange
Could be a covert military operation outside of Russian waters, but lights are too bright for ship illumination at night and are not logical to have been
carried if it was secret; one would expect dimly illuminated ships to make sure personnel keep their 'night vision'. On the other hand; airspace was not
closed, nor a warning was issued, so a large military exercise or test can almost certain be ruled out. Could explain the flash of light earlier. Unlikely to
hear anything about anymore this if it really was a military operation.
5. Earthquake lights
Earthquake lights are an often reported anomaly that occurs often before/during/after heavy earthquakes. Until a few years ago often reported as UFO's,
since the 1960's scientifically accepted as a side-effect of earthquakes in various forms and colors.
I have received a very interesting document from a highly regarded scientist specialized in (electro-)magnetic discharges of the atmosphere into the earths
curst and vice versa. More research is done as we speak, and its cutting edge science with probably little or no proof. But it could provide a valuable report
and a possible explanation for mysterious lights
Proof for:
- Earthquake lights are often seen during tectonic and seismic activities. Massive seismic activities during the weeks, days and especially hours before.
Both Iceland, San Francisco and Chile experienced heavy earthquakes.
- Massive earthquake in Papua New Guinea (further South in the Ring of Fire) at 11:15:50 UTC August 24th (same day and time) , a few minutes before
seeing the red glowing lights, a few minutes after seeing the bright white flash. Even though far away, this could have caused a 'reversed spike' in the
atmospheres magnetic charge and have caused a large discharge in the atmosphere's upper ionization layers. Never observed before, but theoretically
possible. Like a South and North pole on a magnet, the earths atmosphere might have an up and downcharge of its energy in case of severe magnetic
changes. Still highly hypothetical.
- Both West-Greenland and Alaskan official magnetometers (sensors sensing changes in the Earth magnetic field) have sensed massive disruptions in the
earths magmatic field up to an hour to minutes before, and exactly during the sighting of the red lights over the Pacific.
- Large amount of solar activity and massive Aurora Borealis before and after our sighting, indicating big charges of the ionosphere of the earths upper
atmosphere
- Records of mysterious (red) lights in the sky go back to around 1000 yrs before Christ, the best recorded event the New Madrid earthquakes of 1811 and
1812 and for the first time filmed in the 1960's in Japan. Since then often seen and recorded, though scientific evidence has not yet been provided.
- Could explain the flash of light since flashes of lights (even high up into the atmosphere) are often associated with earthquakes and earthquake lights.
- This area, South of Russia, was the location of the deepest earthquake known to Man back in 2012 and documented back in May 2014, which COULD
have caused a potential weakening in the earth crust magnetic properties causing a downpeak in the energy flow.
Problems with Earthquake lights;
- Lights were shining continuously and probably for a long period of time (at least 30 minutes without changing luminescence, likely much longer).
- Earthquake lights are still very unknown but appear to shine only for a few minutes maximum. So many, extremely bright lights would indicate an
extremely strong down peak of ionization, never observed before.
Verdict; could have great potential and seems likely. More research is being done.
6. Meteorite impact
A large meteorite impact might be the cause of the flash, later disintegrated and crashed into the ocean, leaving glowing and burning parts on the ocean
Proof for:
- Might explain a bright white flash
- Many meteorites falling down this period of the year. We saw at least 7 of them during our flight, some of them very large and bright.
- It has happened before that a large meteorite reaches the earth and causes damage on the ground
Problems with meteorite theory:
- A larger flash of light would be expected, and with a different direction (down/sideways and not vertical).
- Once the ocean has been hit, parts would sink to the bottom of the ocean, not stay afloat and have a strong afterglow.
Verdict: Unlikely
7. Methane burning on the surface of the ocean
Large fields of Methane gas are stored in the ocean floor and have been known to escape from the ocean floor during seismic activities. The gas would float
up violently in large bubbles and sometimes catches fire spontaneously when reaching the surface
Proof for:
- Large scale seismic activities took place all over the world at this time, including in the Pacific Rim.
- Methane release from the sea bed has been observed many times and is not uncommon
- Would explain the size, the position of the lights and the brightness of the lights
- Such an event has been seen and recorded by airline pilots flying between Tokyo and Alaska (April 9, 1984) during daylight, but was evident from the
extremely large cloud that it produced, not by the lights they have seen.
- Gasses on the surface are known to ignite by themselves
- It could be other types of gasses too;
Red and orange indicate other burning elements then Methane, or it would be a burning process that is lacking oxygen. Lithium and Strontium produce red
flames, Calcium burns orange and Sodium burn yellow. Elements like Barium and Molybdenum produce yellow/greenish flames while Thallium burns pure
green. All these colors have been observed during our event.
Problems with Methane theory:
- No seismic activity around this area reported, which would be expected if such a large quantity of gas would escape the sea floor
- No large cloud observed. Reported clouds from methane gas coming from the ocean floor can reach up to 50.000ft, this is inconsistent with our
observations of the clouds that night
- Pure methane burns with a blue flame. As stated before, other elements burn with different colors. This would be a first-ever recorded event of large
pockets of non-methane gasses burning on the surface
Verdict; has to be investigated further but has great potential.
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Flying Dutchman 01-Sep-2014 12:02
@ Alienproof,
Thanks for your feedback. I know there have been many reported red/orange lights, I used the information and feedback I received
from the FAA as they took it serious too and believe it is not consistent with their data.
Best regards
alienproof 01-Sep-2014 11:21
Hi !
I'm not agree with this:
"Problems with the UFO theory:
- These lights are inconsistent with more then 70 years of UFO reports according to FAA intelligence."
IN FACT, there is a lot of testimonies from 1954 with glow orange lights from ufos. So please, make some research on the subject.
http://prezi.com/j-fsxa71bvan/ce3/
Best regards
Oldexpat 01-Sep-2014 01:17
@FD. Thanks for your kind words. You should not be overwhelmed by the interest. This is in Ufological terms, a very high quality
sighting, multiple witnesses. professional pilots ie trained observers and very high quality photographic evidence and data records. I
am somewhat surprised that none of my more famous UFO colleagues have weighed in. There was a big conference in the US last
week and they are all busy people whereas I am a retired old fart. Did any of your passengers see it and comment on it to you or the
rest of the crew? I love looking at this stuff and it is a pleasure to be able to (hopefully) contribute. I'm not following my MUFON
'Investigator checklists' so am not really being as systematic as I should be, and am asking questions as they occur to me. I
understand most commercial aircraft do not have anti collision radar but perhaps yours does? Did your weather radar have any
anomalous returns? I assume you would have mentioned them if you did, but am just being nerdish. I do the same route as a
passenger regularly (HKG to ORD or EWR and return) and am always looking out the window hoping to spot just such an event.
Would you like to get MUFON involved officially? That will put this 'on the record' you can file a report yourself
athttp://www.mufon.com/ . MUFON is the worlds oldest privately funded organisation dedicated to the scientific investigation of UFOs
and I would recommend you consider reporting to them. As I say, this is an excellent case. Not many tinfoil hats in MUFON.
Flying Dutchman 31-Aug-2014 22:54
Olexpat;
Thanks so much for your feedback and information. Im extremely overwhelmed by all the attention this sighting got and I have only
so little time to respond. I'll get back to you soon. Thanks again, your comments are greatly appreciated.
Oldexpat 31-Aug-2014 21:53
The USGS link in my comment below has a record of an earthquake off PNG at 11:15:50 UTC on 24 08 2014 but it was a 4.7 which is
a pretty average quake for those parts.
Oldexpat 31-Aug-2014 15:34
@Joe. You're welcome. I try not to shoot off my mouth until I have done my research.
Oldexpat 31-Aug-2014 15:26
@Flying Dutchman. Thanks for your analysis above. Did you read my comments below? They cover some of the points you have
raised above. I will comment further that 'UFO' does not mean 'alien space craft'. I should probably have used the broader and more
accurate term 'anomalous aerial phenomenon'. This is indeed an AAP as it is, so far, unexplained. I have been researching and
investigating AAPs and UFOs for the best part of 1/4 century and this is an excellent case. I took the liberty of posting the link to this
page on Facebook and I tagged a number of other credible UFO investigators. I'll add that I don't wear a tinfoil hat. I have degrees in
geology, civil/geotechnical engineering and law and spent 25 years working for the Hong Kong Government. I would be interested in a
link to 'FAA intelligence' as lights of this sort (both moving and stationary) have in fact often been reported and investigated as UFOs.
For example, the Bethune case in 1951 started with a distant bright red orange stationary light over the Atlantic although that turned
into a classic disc encounter.http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case980.htm .
joe 31-Aug-2014 06:16
Oldexpat: yes you are right, according to wikipedia; "Scientific research shows that all members of this food chain have eyes sensitive
to the colors blue and green. This probably evolved because the water these animals live in is blue or greenish in color."
so yeah, red/orange light wouldn't make much sense for fishing.. ^^ and that it is such a remote place (320 NM to the next port)
pretty much shows that it most likely aren't fishing boats. thank you for the information.. :)
Oldexpat 30-Aug-2014 21:16
Ommastrephes bartrami is a commercially exploited squid species and the location of the event is within an area of 'significant
commercial fisheries stock' for the species. However, the location is a long way from any known commercial exploitation of the
species, which is mainly concentrated around the coast of Japan. Squid fishing lamps mostly emit white light but small numbers of
green lamps are often interspersed.
Seehttp://www.fao.org/docrep/009/y5852e/y5852e08.htm and search the page for 'squid'
Ocean depths at that location are approximately 5000 m. Nearest land is the uninhabited Kurile Islands approximately 210 nautical
miles to the west. Nearest port is Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky about 320 NM to the Northwest, home to Russia's largest submarine
base. The city also houses adventure tourism and a large commercial salmon fishing fleet. No information on a squid fishing fleet
operating from there and despite the stocks out in the deep blue, most commercial quid fisheries are coastal although that particular
species is caught over ocean deeps, but usually where there is deep water close inshore as the east coast of Japan. Why go so far
offshore when there is no need to? Squid boats do just fine in their traditional areas.
One more point I should have mentioned in my earlier posts - I assume that the lights did not evidence any movement while the
Flying Dutchman had them under observation? I am sure he would have mentioned it had they done so and perhaps even titillated us
further with some video.
joe 30-Aug-2014 08:01
sry the links don't work and i can't edit, here again;
article;http://www.bit.ly/1w2jYga video;http://www.bit.ly/1lmOlZL
joe 30-Aug-2014 07:57
first i would like to thank captain dutchman for making and sharing these pictures, looks amazing!
i found this really intresting so i searched around a bit and found this;
article; bit.ly/1w2jYga video; bit.ly/1lmOlZL
this looks quite similar and it turned out they were really just fishing boats. i know you wrote that fishing boats wouldn't make sense
it that area, but coudn't it be that they are tryin out new fishing grounds? if not, i'm really not sure what it could be, doesn't look like
a underwater erruption to me since there are different colors of light and no seismic activity or other indications for volcanic activity is
present. whatever it was i hope we going to know it one day.. :)
Oldexpat 29-Aug-2014 20:13
Amazing photos by the way Captain Dutchman. Thanks for sharing and livening up my (and many others') day.
Oldexpat 29-Aug-2014 20:03
Here is the latest volcanic activity report from the USGS. Nothing there.
http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports_weekly.cfm
and all magnitude 2.5+ earthquakes for the last 30 days. Nothing on the right date. (Sorry, the link doesn't post well)
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#{%22feed%22%3A%2230day_m25%22%2C%22search%22%3Anull%2C%22sort
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Oldexpat 29-Aug-2014 19:56
I will add to what I said below that looking more closely at the photos it is clear the phenomena persisted for quite some time. For an
aircraft flying at 10,000 m the horizon is approximately 360 km away. An aircraft cruising at near 600 knots will cover that distance in
about 20 minutes so presumably the party was going on somewhat longer than that.
Oldexpat 29-Aug-2014 15:29
Absolutely fascinating. I am a retired engineer and a MUFON field investigator and this sighting (at first glance) could be UFO related.
May I ask what was the duration that you had the glowing phenomena in view? How long did the lights persist? To panopticrat the
physicist who thinks this could be a nuclear detonation, how long would the glow persist in an underwater explosion? Would it likely
produce such a large number of diffuse and separate glowing areas? Since the aircraft was cruising at altitude the total area occupied
by these glowing phenomena must have been many miles, which would rule out a single nuke (or so it seems to me). According to
Wikipedia Tamu Massif is at 33N 158E, 14 degrees of latitude (or nearly 900 miles) just about due South of where this was and the
google earth plot places this well away from any active volcanic areas and in what looks to be deep ocean crust. Dutchman, next time
you are in Hong Kong I'd love to buy you a beer and hear more about this.
panopticrat 29-Aug-2014 12:16
Sorry, I forgot - thin layer of cloud: also tallies. It could either be condensation caused by a shock-front (did you note any turbulence
in the vicinity of the lights?) from a blast, or from a hypersonic re-entry causing vapour condensation in its sonic shock-front, which
would then act as a seed for further condensation in a layer which supported it.
panopticrat 29-Aug-2014 11:45
Hullo, physicist here.
I have a hypothesis as to what you saw: an underwater nuclear detonation.
Why?
Several reasons:
1) You report a vertical white bolt of light. If this was a single, straight bright line without any specific directionality other than
vertical, this could have been a MIRV re-entry. If this was a diffuse beam, it could have been the initial photon flux from a fireball
deep underwater.
2) You report and document orange, green, and various other colour lights under the cloud cover appearing several minutes after the
initial bolt. This would make sense if understood as multiple bubbles of excited ions of variously oxygen, chlorine, sodium, and other
elements of seawater rising to the surface, glowing furiously - which would happen with a subsurface detonation, as it would merrily
rip water molecules and ions in solution apart, and give their electrons a good hard bash.
3) If this was a test, it's a smart location, as radiation in the environment could be written off as Fukushima related, and it's remote
enough that only perhaps a pilot or two on a lonely night flight might see it, and think it's some strange natural phenomenon.
3.5) Russia have shiny new MIRVs they've been bragging about quite a bit domestically.
4) This could also have been an accident. The USSR stationed many nuclear subs at Vladivostok, and lost many as well, complete with
their nuclear arsenal. Seawater and hardware don't mix well, particularly after 40 years or so.
5) A NASA spokesman goes ahead and says "oh, uh, ionosphere, HAARP, maybe it's that" - which is industrial grade bullknit, as last I
checked the ionosphere is nowhere near sea-level, and if they're citing HAARP, it's to drag the conspiracy circles down a garden path
that'll discredit and deflect from whatever actually happened here.
I hope I'm wrong.
wipeout 27-Aug-2014 11:54
I just realised something.
Squid fishing fleets produce very bright white light. White light is made up of different colours. What if water and ice in the cloud are
refracting and splitting the white light and only the red and orange frequencies are coming through?
Anyone know a meteorologist we can ask about this? :D
Maggie M. 27-Aug-2014 05:22
Definitely a volcano-ish look to it when compared to similar images from volcano websites. Tamu Masif has been mentioned and that
would be a distinct possibility or perhaps a new "child of Tamu Masif." Absolutely fascinating photographs; well done, Flying
Dutchman" you must have been thrilled to be an eye witness to this unusual event.
Guest 27-Aug-2014 03:54
This is truly amazing! Thank you for sharing!
Guest 27-Aug-2014 03:18
Look up "Tamu Massif", the world's largest volcano on Google or Wikipedia.
The locations are pretty close to each other :)
Guest 27-Aug-2014 02:05
People, stop saying it's fishing boats. They are not. Fishermen do not venture out that far, and it was UNDERWATER.
Stop saying it's a volcano. It is not. Do some research on what an underground volcano looks like.
I've been waiting for them, for quite some time. Hopefully they find me. I have been in contact for quite a while here.
I just want you all to know, that those of us with the "tinfoil hats" are sitting in the background, laughing as the world burns.
I don't hate to say it, but I TOLD YOU SO.
Bruno 27-Aug-2014 01:51
Flying Dutchman: It seems my friends at the S0 youtube channel have informed me of the world's LARGEST volcano directly where
you saw the lights under the clouds. It is roughly the size of New Mexico and has been dormant (supposedly) for millions of years. So
maybe you captured photos of the first activity known forever. You should submit your photos to the USGS and NASA! Considering
the event was witnessed while we were simultaneously receiving major earthquakes all over the planet it is very possible that it was
rumbling down there! Amazing to think! The name of the volcano is Tamu Massive and is comparable only in size to the largest
volcanos in the solar system! Named after Texas A&M University. Hope that helps clear this up for you so you and the rest of us can
rest easily! <3
Flying Dutchman 27-Aug-2014 00:59
@Jeanet; als we er achter komen wellicht. Tot nu toe nog geen enkel idee wat het is/was.
Jeanet 27-Aug-2014 00:45
Dat is wel heel bijzonder! Wordt het ook bekend gemaakt, wat dit verschijnsel is/was?
MrPeeBeeDeeBee 27-Aug-2014 00:43
Was your flight path near "Tamu Massif"? See Wikipedia
Flying Dutchman 27-Aug-2014 00:09
To all posters; amazing to see how many people are checking this strange phenomenon we witnessed during the flight! When I have
time I will try to answer the questions individually, though I hope you understand that Im currently overwhelmed by the huge amount
of attention this is getting.
@ Oleg;
Thanks for your honest question. As you might have seen in my other galleries I often try to take long-exposure shots from the
flightdeck at night. After years of experimenting and experience I have found that when the air is at least a bit smooth, its quite
possible to take sharp pictures with my 10.5mm fisheye lens. I put the camera on full manual focus/settings, place the camera (Nikon
D800) on the glareshield close to the windshield/window and put my glasses-case (or anything solid) underneath the lens to stabilize
it.
I have found that with my fisheye lens (180' field of view) the stars and all objects in the vast distance show up very sharp. This is
because the relative movement is quite small. Imagine using a huge telelens with such a setting; you would see the movement and
blurryness immediately since you zoom in so far. The more wide angle you use, the less movement you'll see.
That is one part; I experimented with longer shuttertimes, of up to 10 minutes, but then you'll quickly see the stars making trails
because of the movement of the Earth. Shuttertimes of up to 30 seconds result in sharp stars.
These photos have not been edited or altered in any way, except for cropping and resizing.
Waffa Margus 26-Aug-2014 23:50
Thank You for this capture!
People all over the net now have a lot of talks, some of us we are right : )
https://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=458952&page=2
Oleg 26-Aug-2014 23:26
Flying Dutchman, your photos watermarks say that they were taken with extremely long exposition, 8 secs amd 30 secs. I wonder
how you manage to capture anything from an unstable platform like fast moving plane with exposure this long? At 30 secs there
should be only blurred smudge. And how do you manage stars to appear stationary on these photos?
I am not being confrontational, I honestly ask how you do it? Otherwise, I saw your photos on other sites and they are great. Thanks
for posting.
Guest 26-Aug-2014 23:01
wikipedia - Shiranui (optical phenomenon)
Jeroen 26-Aug-2014 21:40
Flying Dutchman laat je niet gek maken he ! :) Er zijn genoeg mensen die het wel interessant vinden \ waarderen
Dimis Angel 26-Aug-2014 20:44
A very unusual shortwave close to the visual spectrum, afer inserting the water reduce to a visual effect because of diffraction.
Volcano? very deep -about 7000 meters- to give such a shiny visual effect.
Amazing photos. very good job.
Juliane Adams 26-Aug-2014 20:15
Thanks, flying Dutchman,
It sounds like a new under water vulcano. Don't vulcanoes have lightenings when they erupt? I hope I can hear more about it and the
location. Juliane Adams
Guest 26-Aug-2014 20:09
its a kaiju!
26-Aug-2014 19:32
Unglublich schon
Guest 26-Aug-2014 19:20
Japanese fishing fleet ftw.
variabletime 26-Aug-2014 19:02
Never mind-wreckage fell on base.
variabletime 26-Aug-2014 18:55
Missile test on Kodiak went awry.Had to self destruct missile headed to Kwajalein.This might be the wreckage.
GC 26-Aug-2014 18:51
Major solar flares and a massive Coronal Mass Ejection just occurred.
JFB 26-Aug-2014 17:27
Flying Dutchman, no reason to try to convince the idiots of the great work you did in capturing this event from a cockpit. It must of
been an exciting time for you and the other pilot. Kudos to you for putting this phenomenon on film, thank you for sharing your
findings with us and hopefully we will all know soon if this was a volcanic eruption (which could cause danger to aircrafts flying over
the site) or something that is unexpected, like algoes under different lights. What is important is hoping that the specialists of the
world will come to a conclusion as to what this could be. Good luck and stay safe.
From Florida, USA 26-Aug-2014 16:37
MailOnline article, Aug 26 2014:
"Mystery glow over the Pacific Ocean: Pilots left baffled by strange orange and red lights spotted in the dead of night"
(Sorry, cannot post link as a Guest.)
Skoshi 26-Aug-2014 14:11
Another source book for description of UUSO's: Solomon Islands Mysteries
Guest 26-Aug-2014 13:05
this was just reported in The Independent newspaper in the UK:
An experimental hypersonic weapon developed to reach targets anywhere in the world within an hour has been destroyed by the US
military four seconds after its launch for public safety.
The test in Alaska in the early hours of Monday morning was aborted after controllers detected a problem with the system, the
Pentagon said, and the launcher is believed to have detonated before the missile was deployed.
Witnesses watched the rocket lift off at around 12.30am local time, before quickly turning nose-down and exploding, KMXT radio
reported.
Scott Wight, who photographed the explosion from Cape Greville in Chiniak, about 12 miles from the launch site, described the
explosion as quite loud and frightening, with a fire afterwards that burned brightly.
Guest 26-Aug-2014 11:36
Wow, where did all those lunatics come from? Stop making fool of yourselves and go back to your caves, please. On topic, I would
guess that might be a likely cause:
earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Malvinas
grillroom ISIS 26-Aug-2014 10:57
volgens mij zijn die moslims weer bezig!!! moehaahahahaha
fuck van Aartsen 26-Aug-2014 10:56
ophouwen met je onzin foto's
Guest 26-Aug-2014 10:55
hou toch op met die onzin foto's
YENED 26-Aug-2014 10:41
Mr.
Flying Dutchman.,did the passengers see this lights too,perhaps after you told them to look?
Prutsky 26-Aug-2014 09:09
Where these lights moving?
What time (UTC) where the pictures taken?
Northen lights can be quite dim like in your pictures, but I guess you've seen it more then I did. Why do you think the green light is
not northern light?
Dorsi Diaz 26-Aug-2014 07:39
I also wanted to let you know the reason you got some off-the-wall replies here is because this got posted to a very popular fringe
conspiracy website. Don't take heed to the crazies, you did a great job reporting this event. Hope to find out more from any
investigations done of that area and I'll let you know if I find out if there was a big methane spike in that area.
Greg 26-Aug-2014 07:35
You are some awesome pilot! Keep posting! Thank you!
Guest 26-Aug-2014 07:31
Does anyone know if algae could glow red? If hit by some kind of lightning? Maybe so kind of bioluminescence?
Guest 26-Aug-2014 06:29
i think its real. most if not all pilots are a serious lot. living in anchorage alaska on the rim of fire... there are a lot of forces at play
there.
MimiR 26-Aug-2014 06:11
I just saw this posted at in5d...and it gave me goosebumps, in a very positive way!!!,,,I have never heard of you and your website,
Dutchman...You, Sir, have caught some absolutely breathtaking photos of POSITIVE ET'S AND THEIR CRAFT CLEANING UP THE
FUKUSHIMA RADIATION AND SAVING THE PLANET AND IT'S ECOSYSTEM FROM SURE ANNHILATION!...It is QUITE OBVIOUS WHAT
THOSE LIGHTS ARE, MY "SILLY WABBITS"!!!...You, Mr. Dutchman, have caught them redhanded with your spectacular photos!!!
Check out this link,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoBGBYDjxQc
and know that the cabal nuked and HAARP'd Japan and Fukushima on 3-11-11 in order to carry out their evil depopulation agenda of
this planet...And understand that our Human ET ancestors Will Not Permit our Mass extermination!!! They're Cleaning it Up!!! Kudos
2-U!!!....Yaaay!!! :D!!!
Guest 26-Aug-2014 05:49
Please note that at 2014-08-14 11:45:44 OTC, at 46.445*N-152.356*E at a depth of 76.4Km the USGS recorded a M4.6 earthquake.
Is that near the area that you saw the lights and vertical beam shoot up?
Chief Engineering Officer
Earth Ship Puna DAC-1
earthshippuna@yahoo.com
Boooing 26-Aug-2014 05:44
Wow so many idiotic comments here. Congrats JPC for capturing this! If there in fact is an island now I hope they name it after you ;)
Guest 26-Aug-2014 05:40
I believe what you saw was and Earth Resonance Ion coupling between the Earth's surface and the ionosphere. Please go to
earthshippuna.com for a more complete explanation. If you have additional questions or are in need of the engineering or other
technical data you can contact the Chief Engineering Officer of Earth Ship Puna DAC-1 at earthshippuna@yahoo.com
Dorsi Diaz 26-Aug-2014 05:29
I write about climate change for the San Francisco Examiner and I have been doing a series of interviews on the methane crisis. I am
seriously thinking that what you saw may have been a mega burst of methane. There have been documented reports of methane
bursts recently (the Siberian Craters) and mega plumes of methane observed recently from the Swerus C3 expedition in the Arctic. I
would put my bet on a methane burst. Thanks for sharing this amazing event and documenting it with a camera. Great catch. I may
do a story on this.
Rich 26-Aug-2014 04:00
Not trying to discredit the pilot's experience or anything, all I have is these photos, I wasn't there. Looks like lightning should from
higher elevations. The amount of "circle shaped lights" is likely due to expose time (as high as 8 seconds) and changing color is
probably due to Rayleigh scattering. The "sprites" may be what the pilot explained as "an intense lightflash shot up from the ground."
Just my 2 as an engineering student that hopes for extra-terrestrial contact in my lifetime. :)
Skoshi 26-Aug-2014 03:03
The green sky is descriptive of pilots who have encountered UFO's and been "lost" in the Bermuda Triangle, etc.
Skoshi 26-Aug-2014 02:56
My instinctive conclusion is that you have photographed a mass gathering of UUSO's--Unidentified Undersea Objects--the water
version of UFO's in the sky. You may read of such in "Behold a Pale Horse", "Caverns, Cauldrons & Concealed Creatures, and find px's
of singles on YouTube. A Canadian Government Minister gave testimony of having seen such in the North Atlantic at the recent UFO
Govt. Conference in D C about a year ago. We are not alone. We have never been alone.
rsmart 26-Aug-2014 02:41
Great capture and a great mystery, I will check back to read more comments. With all the changes in the Pacific I am very curious to
learn more.
massey 26-Aug-2014 02:22
Just wanted to thank you kind sir for this.I think the gentleman who asserts a possible tectonic event is right. I'd quote my intuition
but would be laughed out of here.. Still, Native Americans are closely connected to earth. I tend to get goose pimples when I read
something very, very true.. and the article and the intelligent comments..well this experience as been extremely goose pimple
producing. I will NOT Fear but this information dos not bode well for this planet Mother Earth is not a happy camper due to all we
have done to her. BUT that's just my opinion. WE all know Indians are savages right? *winK*.. I offer some innocuous Native
American prayers for us all. May we all survive. Nice to know some folks don't rise to troll baiters as well. well done all of you, except
the trolls.. you trolls need to get a life. Bashing those who are trying to help others by sharing information is a sign of a rabid toddler
mind
Agent K 26-Aug-2014 01:41
Thank you to BleuEvanescence, Hannover Fist, Bruno and John for logical, rational posts. We've been monitoring this page all day
because we think this sighting/event is highly significant and worthy of worldwide attention and further study. This is currently the
headline on our website, theobjectreport.com and it is worthy of the positive attention.
That said, if any other internet trolls have the balls to discuss this with us via email, feel free to contact us. I've spent 19 years
researching unexplainable events and have worked with some of the top investigators in the field for the past decade. So by all
means, bring your A game and we'll see how you fare. To the genuine folks who have posted great questions and comments on this
article, thank you for rising above the white noise of the trolls. I have a huge amount of respect for pilots--I have multiple friends who
are military and commercial pilots and they are professionals in every sense of the word.
BleuEvanescence 26-Aug-2014 01:03
I just so totally agree with Hannover Fist...and Bruno and John. Thank you for the privilege you give us by being so generous and
considerate while sharing with us your own experiences. You are a wonderful and much appreciated photographer and these shots are
unique!!! Just realize...nobody on the entire planet have those and i know...they are not fake, i do not have the shadow of a doubt.
Hannover Fist 26-Aug-2014 00:31
Dutchmen,
I have a question for you and I do not doubt your photo, there is an army of trolls out there that will try to discredit anybody that
challenges their frail idea of science and nature, you caught something unique.
My question is this, do you think that what you saw was on the sea surface below the clouds or actually in the clouds themselves,
what was the elevation of the cloud surface? The reason I ask is going back through the picture I can't help notice the shape of the
cloud in which the lights appear in the second image. I am certain you picked up nothing on Radar? I would be more than happy to
share why I know you didn't pick up anything on radar outside of the Internet trolls.
xEZGamerx 26-Aug-2014 00:07
Correction! It was on March 12 2014 not the 13th.
Bruno 25-Aug-2014 23:38
Flying Dutchman-- ignore the idiots of the internet. you have witnessed something amazing! I wish I could have seen it with my own
eyes. Wish you could have gotten video! I would like to say the initial flash was probably electrical -- just like a solar event. These do
happen here on Earth and are not very well known. But I have no guess as to what the glow under the clouds would be. I have
forwarded to a friend who is big into electrical events in the solar system and he has a lot of friends in fields that are similar. You can
reach out to him as well -- I am sure he would love to hear more about what you saw. I won't link the channel because your
comments wont let me, but it is easy for you to put together: youtube dot com / suspicious0bservers
yes that is a ZERO.
Hope we find out what you saw! AMAZE! - Bruno <3
John 25-Aug-2014 23:32
Flying Dutchman--please ignore all the IGNORANT posts from people claiming this is a hoax. Clearly these people aren't
photographers and don't know the first f'king thing about photography. I believe you captured something absolutely stunning and, as
a scientist, I have no explanation for this. It is certainly not a group of fishing vessels as they would be SPECKS of light on the surface
of the ocean seen from 34,000 feet up and I've never seen GREEN lava before. People need to start using common sense and shut
their pie holes when they have no clue what they're talking about. To the "guest" who says you are full of shit, YOU SIR are a
fucktwit! Please unplug your computer before you hurt yourself.
David 25-Aug-2014 23:13
I watched the Secretary of the USAF say HAARP has been shut down, because "it is no longer needed" (CSPAN). He didn't elaborate
on what "no longer needed" meant.
Flying Dutchman 25-Aug-2014 22:45
The files from the camera are .nef files, also commonly referred to as raw.
I have no other motives then to try and find an explanation to what I saw.
Guest 25-Aug-2014 21:58
You are just so full of shit, I can't.
Quote: "No hoax, photo's are taken in RAW and very high res. Copyright/watermark because too many people have been stealing and
editing my pictures in the past. For serious and editorial/commercial inquiries all images are available in full resolution and without
watermark."
For SERIOUS EDITORIAL/COMMERCIAL INQUIRIES? That's a laugh. I literally lol'd. As far as people "stealing" and "editing" you've
edited your photos enough here pal. Are the "RAW" and "very high res"
remarks supposed to make up for the fact that you are trying to trick people and any real photographer can see right through your
bullshit?
I thought these were shot with a Nikon? Canon shoots RAW format. Nikon? They shoot NEF format. If you're being honest, you should
make that clear for those commercial (lol) opportunities you're trying to land.
Thirsty, thirsty, thirsty...
xEZGamerx 25-Aug-2014 21:25
In March of this year "2014" My girlfriend and I witnessed a giant floating city over Gresham Oregon it was massive. We reported the
sighting but never got answers. This floating city had a large bubble structure on top with towers inside the bubble that looked like
skyscrapers and a strange appendage sticking out the top of the craft. It was March 13th. I think that this might be that craft?! If
possible I would really appreciate some help figuring this out. I was thinking that since this craft was so large it probably was picked
up on radar or filmed from a satellite or the ISS... If someone/ anyone knows how to get satellite images or radar images of March 13
2014 please email me. Thank you.
Guest 25-Aug-2014 21:11
Pity about all the pseudoscience and conspiracy BS in the comments.
Flying Dutchman 25-Aug-2014 20:57
No hoax, photo's are taken in RAW and very high res. Copyright/watermark because too many people have been stealing and editing
my pictures in the past. For serious and editorial/commercial inquiries all images are available in full resolution and without
watermark.
Guest 25-Aug-2014 20:48
Considering that he posted only such tiny pictures instead of the original resolution and his obsession with copyright, I would say hoax
as well.
Guest 25-Aug-2014 20:23
These are a total joke. HOAX. Don't fall for it sheeple...
tesla 25-Aug-2014 19:56
Research tom bearden and Quantum potential energy- exothermic!
Guest 25-Aug-2014 19:56
That was pretty awesome!!
Guest 25-Aug-2014 19:37
SATAN HAS LOOSE STOOLS
Flying Dutchman 25-Aug-2014 19:28
No guys, no photoshop at all.
Using the 10.5mm fisheye (180' field of view) its very easy to get sharp stars with long exposures. Please see my other galleries for
more examples of those long-exposure shots at night.
ron 25-Aug-2014 19:20
The Heijst's islands ;-)
Jodocus 25-Aug-2014 17:55
What's also is weird, is the fact that ocean water absorbs the color red. It does not penetrate deep in the water. So it must have been
right under the surface. And for fishing is the color red useless because of this in my opinion.
Guest 25-Aug-2014 17:44
underwater volcano???
Guest 25-Aug-2014 17:41
A fleet
Guest 25-Aug-2014 17:10
No one is going to answer the 8 second shot while flying, question...sounding hoaxed
Guest 25-Aug-2014 17:08
MH370 ?
HereHoldMyBeer 25-Aug-2014 17:04
Volcanic activity/ Lava causing this red glow ?
Chris 25-Aug-2014 16:43
Any relation to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHn69PvtXWY
Guest 25-Aug-2014 16:27
Triboluminescence of quartz bearing rock from compression at the plate boundary?
Joe 25-Aug-2014 16:02
Were the individual lights below the clouds constant, or moving, or changing in intensity?
Robert 25-Aug-2014 15:45
Our Ionosphere is being Highly Charged by the presence of a Low Energy Electron Field from the approaching Dark Star. Why all of
the anomalous Lightning Incidents world wide lately. There was a HUGE Fluxtube from our Sun at or around that time as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLNBbtY8_y8&list=UUVBT_7f-2uqx_DgivGiN74g
Pete 25-Aug-2014 14:51
Fishing vessels, most likeley, usually i see them using green lights, but since I know next to zeeo about fishing.....
Guest 25-Aug-2014 14:39
Coincidentally there was a large CME yesterday that was not directly pointed at earth but did cause Radio and Satellite issues.
SPL-SNV 25-Aug-2014 14:22
maybe POETIN knows more, a light explosion vertical in the air should be man made.... wasn't there a small dark something(ufo) at
the top of the light .....
Sideshow 25-Aug-2014 14:05
they SAY HAARP is not being used... the main facility... we they and others have HAARP weapons on planes and ships... dont be
ignorant and self wise thinking there is no more HAARP use
Hannover Fist 25-Aug-2014 14:05
That location is directly between a deep sea trench and the Emporer Seamount Chain. It is possible it is volcanic but would not be
glowing like that without creating an ash plume, and there are no reports of seismic activity at that location. Something else is going
on with the Pacific Rim, between the large earth quakes, the ground opening near Baja, and the billions of jellyfish washing up on the
US West Coast I am beginning to believe we are about to witness a massive tectonic event. Not only has the Subduction plate off
Washington State sat silently for decades now, there is a linear pattern of small quakes that follow down the East side of the Cascade
and Sierra Nevada Mountians, I personally think a massive multi state quake may be about to hit the West Coast, or even a partial
Continental Seperation may be on the horizon. I hope I am wrong, but something big is building up in the Pacific. Great Pics by the
way.
Guest 25-Aug-2014 13:20
Could it be a Japanese fishing fleet?
Candace 25-Aug-2014 13:16
haarp is no longer being used and I know of what I speak on this one.
Wiseman 25-Aug-2014 12:47
That is what HAARP looks like when it is powered up over an area to alter the jet stream. Millions of watts of power entering the
atmosphere in a short burst of energy. The truth is in plain site, research it for yourself .
Snibbit 25-Aug-2014 11:57
The photos have long exposure times (+8secs), which can make any lightsource look very strange, especially in a flying (moving)
airplane. However you do not see light trails from the stars. Seems like exif data of the photo's are incorrect?
De RazendeBol 25-Aug-2014 11:56
What do the guys in the IS, no, make that ISS report?
SaltnPepperish 25-Aug-2014 11:39
Did you have Geiger counters on board?
Rick Bricker 24-Aug-2014 23:08
That is an unworldly glow....quite amazing.My wife,a retired ATC employee said that ATC would be groaning saying "oh
great,something else we have to investigate...lol.
BleuEvanescence 24-Aug-2014 22:22
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/1400824-earthquakes-usgs-napa-california-faults-science/ -- Any connection?
Amazing timing and one of a kind pictures for sure!
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