SAWE NEWSLETTER

Issue Number 2 2002-2003

The International SAWE Web Site Address is http://www.sawe.org
being offered at the next International conference is available at:
http://www.sawe.org/training/training.html. If you have an idea
for developing a course that would be of interest to our membership,
information can be found at http://www.sawe.org/training/
TPGenInfo.html. Of the people that attend the International conference with the support of their company, very few do so without
asking for that support. As the Nike advertisement says. Just do it.

International President
Roger L. Belt
(818) 586-0309
roger.l.belt@boeing.com
The 62nd Annual International Conference Planning meeting was
recently attended. In conjunction with the planning meeting was a
class on Advanced Moment of Inertia Measurement and the Northeast Regional Conference. All three events were attended and enjoyed. The setting for the next International Conference in New
Haven, Connecticut, is bordering the Yale University campus. This
provides for many dining, shopping, and sight seeing opportunities
within close walking distance. The Omni Hotel is a top-notch establishment with our entire meeting facilities grouped close together.
The surrounding area is steeped in early American history. While
there, I visited the gravesites of some of my ancestors in Windsor,
Connecticut. They came to Windsor in 1630 AD. About the only
down side I can come up with is that I have to remember how to spell
Connecticut correctly. Seriously, the New England Chapter has put a
lot of time and effort into what is shaping up to be a great conference
at a great venue.

When it comes to writing a paper, remember that getting a paper

approved by your company these days is a long process. So get the
paper written early, and submitted for approval. This will be especially
important from now on due to our electronic distribution of conference papers. At the last Board of Directors meeting, the Board voted
and approved an electronic only paper distribution for all future
International conferences. For your paper to be eligible for the Mike
Hackney Award for best paper and be on the Compact Disk distributed at the conference, you will be required to submit your paper
electronically by the deadline to which we will be strictly adhering.
The papers that do not make the deadline will not be eligible for the
best paper award and will be distributed at a later date.
A major accomplishment has been achieved in that the electronic
version of the SAWE handbook has been completed and the CDs
have been burned. You will be receiving a copy with your fall
Weight Engineering Journal that will be shrink-wrapped to accommodate the CD distribution. So be sure to look for it when your
journal arrives. To preclude offending anyone by omission, I want to
extend a general expression of gratitude to the many, many people
that made the handbook revision possible. It was a long and arduous
task; and to everyone involved in the project, may I express my
heartfelt thanks. Job well done!

Please make every effort to attend the International Conference, and

ask your management for their support for you to attend. Ask before
the budgets for next year are planned. While just wanting to go may
not be enough in an era of ever tightening budgets, you need to ask
your manager or program what it would take for them to send you to
the conference. If it is the conference technical content and relevance
that plays a role in the decision, you can show them past years
programs, and then the current one when it arrives. If writing and
presenting a paper is required, you can submit an abstract to Brett
Anderson; and write the paper. If serving on a technical committee
or other committee would do the trick, contact Brett Anderson
(VP-Technical Director, brett.l.Anderson@boeing.com) or Larry
Linner (G/I Committee Chairman, larry.linner@lmco.com) about
being a session chair. While these spots are usually filled a year
before the conference for obvious reasons, you can still get started
now to find out what is involved, and to let Brett & Larry that you
have interest in being a session chair. If you have interest in serving
on one of the International committees, contact me
(roger.l.belt@boeing.com). The International committees are listed
on the SAWE website (http://www.sawe.org).

In December, Jack Wisniewski, the Awards Committee Chair, will be

sending a letter to all the Chapter Directors about awards nominations. While these go to the Chapter Directors, any member of
SAWE can nominate another member for an award that include Honorary Fellow, Fellow, and the Ed Payne Award (outstanding members
under the age of 35). Now is the time to start thinking about worthy
individuals who are eligible for these awards. Let us not forget our
members-at-large. If you know of a member-at-large eligible for one
of these awards, please submit their name to the awards committee.
They will be happy to supply you with a nomination form.
In the last newsletter, we initiated a Members Concerns and Suggestions column in the newsletter. While I have not received any
correspondence about this column directly, there are some points that
I would like to make concerning the operation of the society.

If your manager, or program, would be swayed into supporting your

attendance by a letter from the president of the SAWE, then I would
be happy to do that for you, and e-mail it to the person indicated by
you. Training is another avenue that you can explore with your
management. Our training program was initiated with the thought
that along with the obvious benefit of training, it would also be an
incentive for companies to send their employees to the conference as
it is held in the days just following the classes. A list of the courses

Remember, the door is always open here. If you have questions,

concerns, ideas, or issues, I want to know what they are. My e-mail
address is roger.l.belt@boeing.com and my telephone number is
(818) 586-0309.

In Memoriam
Larry Edington
1941 2002
SAWE Fellow

Executive Vice-President
Tom Koonce
(661) 572-5972
thomas.koonce@lmco.com

We are saddened to report the death of Larry Edington. Larry passed

away September 10, 2002, in Redding, California. Larry and his
wife Barbara moved to Redding after his retirement in August 2001
from Lockheed Martin. He worked for Lockheed Martin for over 32
years. Larry spent his entire career at Lockheed Martin in Sunnyvale,
California, with the exception of three years working for General
Electric in Philadelphia. Barbara missed California too much, so,
fortunately for all of us, they returned.

I would like to thank the New England Chapter for their hospitality
while they were hosting the recent Regional Conference and
International Conference Planning Meeting, October 18-19. Right
down the street from Yale University, the location of our next International Conference will be a big hit with all members attending next
May! The restaurants in the area are consistently great and within
walking distance. The conference planning meeting reviewed the
New England Chapters plans, from the budget to where each of the
technical sessions will be held. The hotel has a very easy layout. All
of our meeting rooms are located closely together for convenience.

Larry grew up in Saint Helena in Californias beautiful Napa Valley.

He met Barbara, his wife of 44 years, in the fifth grade. They
married at 19 and had a son, Roger, and then a daughter, Nancy. He
is survived by his mother, two brothers, a sister, a stepsister, two
children, and three grandchildren.

In response to several of my e-mail requests for information about

individual chapter projects, the Chapter Vice-Presidents of Atlanta,
Boston, Canada, Central European, Hampton Roads, Kittyhawk,
Rocky Mountain, San Fernando Valley, San Francisco, Seattle, and
St. Louis responded with their information. Thank you! Projects are
varied ranging from strong support for digitizing our Societys
technical papers to chapter websites and newsletters. Other ideas are
the sales of the SAWE watch, maintaining our recommended practices, and hosting a regional conference. The ideas are plentiful and
all benefit our Society.

If you knew Larry, you knew his physical stature did not reflect his
larger-than-life personality and intellect. Larry was fiercely competitive. As the star player on the Saint Helena High School basketball
team, opponents, regardless of their size, never intimidated him. Larry
excelled in many sports in high school and stayed physically active
all his life. His athletic abilities were only surpassed by his intellect.
Being a straight A student in school, he was accepted into schools
like Stanford and San Jose State University where he earned a Masters
of Science in Mathematics. Larry was a human calculator. When
doing the grocery shopping for the family, he enjoyed announcing
the grocery bill total just as the last item went across the scanner and
before the checkout clerk could hit the total button. He usually got it
within just a few cents!

To date, I have received no response AT ALL from the Chapter

Vice-Presidents of the Baltimore/Washington, Great Lakes, Gulf Coast,
Huntsville, Los Angeles, New England, Philadelphia, Texas, United
Kingdom and Wichita Chapters. But the Vice-Presidents can e-mail
me with their chapter projects at thomas.koonce@lmco.com. Come
on guys, let me hear from you! Remember, chapter projects provide
a great way of involving your fellow members in something of direct
benefit to themselves as well as the International Society.

From 1981 to 1997, Larry was the Mass Properties Group Supervisor
of the then Missile Systems Division at Lockheed and built a
world-class mass properties group. He demanded technical excellence
and high ethical standards. His first priority was the well being of his
employees. Larry was quick to step in and defend his employees but
just as quick to step out of the limelight and pass the praise to them.

Please consider participating in Greg Burts campaign to put all of

our Societys technical papers into electronic format. Certainly several
members of your chapter have a scanner attached to their PC. If you
had five or six chapter members commit to scanning in a half dozen
papers each, the Society can easily reach its goal of having EVERY
SAWE paper ever written available to its members online within the
next two years. This is a GREAT chapter project (and easy to do!). I
hope you will contact Greg Burt at (316) 676-4597 or
Greg_Burt@rac.ray.com for the easy to follow directions on how
your chapter can make a significant contribution to our Society and
accomplish one of your Chapter Projects!

His intelligence brought a lot of respect to himself and to the mass

properties discipline, plus set a high standard for his subordinates.
He encouraged all the mass properties engineers to join and become
active in the Society of Allied Weight Engineers. Larry was a member of the San Francisco Chapter for 35 years and was elected a
Fellow of the Society in 1994. He published three technical papers.
Larry was a major part of regional and international conferences
when it was the San Francisco Chapters turn to host. As one of the
first members of the Scholarship Committee, he was instrumental in
getting the SAWE scholarship started. He held every chapter office
except treasurer. He said he was not comfortable being responsible
for someone elses money. But, it is very unlikely he would have
made a math error.
Our thoughts are with Larrys family. He will be greatly missed.

Senior Vice President

Tom Schultz
(636) 925-3335
thomas.m.schultz@boeing.com

Vice President Training

John Hargrave
(310) 331-5368
hargrjo@mail.northgrum.com

As I write this, I have just returned from the 62nd International

Conference Planning Meeting in New Haven, Connecticut. The Omni
New Haven is a spectacular meeting facility, and the downtown
environs of Yale and its surroundings provide plenty of restaurants,
shopping, and sites to see within easy walking distance. We had a
productive planning meeting with Matt Myers and Dean Fabrizio.
While transportation issues continue to be a headache, as they are for
all conferences, the planning seemed very well in hand with no
potential showstoppers. It was just unfortunate that more of the New
England planning committee could not be with us. The Northeast
Regional Conference was also well-planned and executed, with an
interesting and diverse technical agenda.

Plans are set for the 62nd International Conference in New Haven,
Connecticut. The Omni at Yale hotel is an excellent site with many
fine restaurants and entertainment attractions. The New England
Chapters host committee has been working hard to ensure a successful and enjoyable conference. I just returned from New Haven having
participated in three very productive days of SAWE activity. The
Advanced MOI training course was held Thursday, October 17, at
Space Electronics with nine students attending. Friday, October 18,
was the conference planning meeting with a tour of the facilities,
detailed logistical plans, and review of the budget. The Northeast
Regional Conference was Saturday, October 19, with about ten fine
technical presentations. I thoroughly enjoyed the trip, the location,
and the hospitality. I look forward to returning to New Haven next
May for the International Conference and I am certain you will enjoy
it too.

Besides the usual planning discussions, the Executive Officers also

took advantage of our time together to explore a serious problem that
has been developing within the Society for some time. And that is
the growing trend of fewer and fewer chapters bidding to host the
annual international conference. While we thankfully have received
a potential bid for the 2005 conference, we nevertheless continue to
believe that creating a process for planning and hosting a conference
in the absence of a host chapter should remain a top priority.

We will offer four training courses at the International Conference on

May 17 and 18. You can access further details on the SAWE websites
training page. www.sawe.org/training/training.html
Basic Moment of Inertia

Conference hosting bids have been on the decline for some time.
While there is probably no one obvious cause for this, it still leaves
the potential status of future conferences in a precarious position, and
we must act now to avoid having to cancel a conference. Numerous
ideas have been proposed and discussed by a steady stream of e-mail
traffic. But the chance to sit down and discuss this face-to-face in
real time was invaluable. I am even now trying to collate the points
that were raised and the directions suggested as to how to proceed on
them. Hopefully I can get that out to the Board of Directors within a
short time.

Advanced Mass Properties Measurement

Helicopter Preliminary Design
Aircraft Weight and Balance
This slate of four courses takes advantage of Space Electronics unique
lab facilities and equipment, offers helicopter learning opportunities
relevant to local industry, and repeats our most popular course at the
host chapters request. Please make your plans now to not only
attend the 62nd International Conference, but to take advantage of
these training opportunities as well.

Will we cease to have chapter-hosted conferences? Will the format

of the conferences have to be completely revamped? Will we have to
significantly increase the cost structure of registration fees as a result?
There are many options on the table, and all of them remain to be
explored. So stay tuned!

Reinstated Members
Welcome Back

Executive Director
Franklin B. Gattis
(860) 633-0850 (T)
(860) 633-8971 (F)
saweed@aol.com

James E. Augustus
David A. Brandt
Todd A. Bryan
David S. Chapman
Kevin K. Derrick
Neil Dewey
Frank Edomwonyi
Enzo Felice
Kenneth D. Forsythe, Jr.
Chuck Guerrero
Esat N. Guzey
Talmadge N. Hardy

62nd International Conference Planning Meeting: The 2003

International Conference Planning Meeting was held October 18,
2002, at the Omni New Haven Hotel at Yale in New Haven,
Connecticut. The Northeast Regional Conference was held at the
same facility on Saturday, October 19. The Omni Hotel is a beautiful
four-star facility in downtown New Haven, just a couple of blocks
from Yale University and a multitude of excellent restaurants and
shopping. Co-chairmen Dean Fabrizio and Matt Myers and their conference committee have plans and special events in place that will
ensure a successful conference that will be of interest to our members.
You should all make every effort to attend the conference, which will
be held May 19-21, 2003.

James S. Smith
Stuart A. Davis

Nominations for International Office: Would you like to be an

International officer? Do you know someone who might be interested?
If so, please submit their name for consideration. Nomination forms
are available through your chapter director or the Executive Director.
They must be returned to the Executive Director by December 15.
Change of Address: Please keep the International office up to date
on your address. We want to make sure you get all of the correspondence, and we need your current address to do that. Just send me email at saweed@aol.com and I will get our records up to date.

New Members
Welcome
Sergio Leyva
John Marcavage
David Navas
Edmund Pickersgile
Barbara Smith
David Simon Stoliker
Jennifer TerWisscha
Byron Ward
John Whitby

UK to ML
WI to ML

Membership Roster to be Posted on Website:

At the Board of Directors in Virginia Beach, it was decided that the
2002-2003 Membership Roster should be posted on the Members
Only section of the SAWE website, www.sawe.org for downloading rather than mailing it to individual members. Please contact me at
the address above if you need a hardcopy.

Company Membership: Our company membership now stands at

26, the same as at this time last year but down three from the last
newsletter. I regret to report that three companies did not renew their
membership this year. They are General Electrodynamics Corporation, British Military Aircraft and Alliance Commerciale
Technologique. The Society sincerely appreciates the support it
receives from each company member.

ML
TX
WI
CN
UK
CE
UK
AT

Steve Jones
UK
Michael J. Logan
HR
Rainer D. Massey
WI
Russell J. Ogden
SE
Juan C. Parades
WI
Jack W. Parrent Jr.
HR
Faye Plummer
UK
Shaun Ruhlman
WI
Thomas Scharfanberg, Jr. SE
James Smith
UK
Bryan Strong
WI
John N. Whitehead, Jr. HR
Ogden E. Winton
HR

Members on the Move

Individual Membership: Our membership now stands at 755. This

is about 14% less than we had in May during the International
Conference and 8% less than the 824 members we had at this time in
2001.We had 780 in 2000, 794 in 1998, and 836 in 1997. 1999 was
so difficult a reasonable count was not even possible. We need to
re-double our efforts to sign up former members that did not renew
their membership this year. Thanks to all Chapter Treasurers who
worked hard and got their membership rosters to the International
Office in a timely manner.

Rainier Alfonzo
Mohamad Al Nuaimi
Joni Berblinger
Frank Chalvignac
Jane Comesky
Jose Marie Gutierrez-Zuazua
Steven Hales
Paul Headland

SL
GL
GL
HR
TX
UK
AT
GL
GL
LA
SE
HR

Receipts and Disbursements: Financial results from the 61st

International Conference in Virginia Beach are not yet complete but
preliminary indications are excellent, with a projected net gain from
the conference about $2000 more than budgeted at the May 2002
Board of Directors meeting. Other budget line items are pretty much
in line with expectations at this point, resulting in a projected Net
Annual Gain of $5390 versus $3352 set as a budget. The First Quarter
Statement of Receipts and Disbursements for 2002-2003 follows.

CN
BA
ML
UK
RM
ML
SE
TX
UK

SOCIETY OF ALLIED WEIGHT ENGINEERS, INC.

FIRST QUARTER STATEMENT OF RECEIPTS AND DISBURSEMENTS
2002-2003
1st QTR.
ACTUALS
TO-DATE

PROJECTED
AMOUNTS

RECEIPTS
Dues ........................................................................................................................................ $14,712.25
Technical Paper Sales..................................................................................................................... 462.84
Weight Engineers Handbook Sales ................................................................................................ 270.00
2002 International Conference .................................................................................................. 27,983.50
2003 International Conference ........................................................................................................... 0
Weight Engineering Journal Advertising ............................................................................................ 0
Credit Card Program. ......................................................................................................................... 0
Job Opportunities Advertising ............................................................................................................ 0
Account Interest and Dividends ..................................................................................................... 836.62
International Training ......................................................................................................................... 0
Miscellaneous................................................................................................................................. 143.56
TOTAL RECEIPTS ..................................................................................................................... $44,408.77

$30,500
4,250
1,000
28,500
16,100
6,200
1,000
6,100
5,250
1,000
$99,900.00

DISBURSEMENTS
Roster Printing. .................................................................................................................................. 0
Technical Publications Index/Bylaws.. ............................................................................................... 0
Weight Engineers Handbook Printing... ......................................................................................... 476.25
Weight Engineering Journal Printing .......................................................................................... 4,239.21
Weight Engineering Journal Postage .............................................................................................. 730.69
Newsletter Printing............................................................................................................................. 0
Newsletter Postage ......................................................................................................................... 233.32
General Postage.............................................................................................................................. 489.17
2002 International Conference.. ..................................................................................................... 806.32
2003 International Conference.. ......................................................................................................... 0
Bonding and Office Insurance........................................................................................................ 176.00
Liability Insurance ............................................................................................................................. 0
International Election ......................................................................................................................... 0
Tax Return and Audit ......................................................................................................................... 0
Chapter Projects ................................................................................................................................. 0
Office Equipment ............................................................................................................................. 21.19
Web Site Expenses ............................................................................................................................. 0
Vendor Coordinator Expenses..... ....................................................................................................... 0
Plaques, Awards and Certificates ............................................................................................... 1,708.75
Los Angeles Post Office Box ........................................................................................................... 70.00
Office Supplies................................................................................................................................. 36.24
Computer Programming and Assist.................................................................................................... 0
Vice President Publications Honorarium .................................................................................... 3,800.00
Vice President Publications Expenses.. ....................................................................................... 3,487.36
Executive Director Honorarium .................................................................................................. 9,699.99
Executive Director Travel Expenses. ............................................................................................. 650.30
International Training .................................................................................................................. 1,406.70
International Committees ................................................................................................................... 0
International Office Expenses ........................................................................................................ 432.30
International Office Relocation .......................................................................................................... 0
Transfer to Scholarship Fund from General Fund.............................................................................. 0
Miscellaneous.............................................................................................................................. 1,996.24
TOTAL DISBURSEMENTS ....................................................................................................... $30,460.03
NET ANNUAL GAIN ...............................................................................................................................

100
2,500
18,000
3,100
2,150
800
3,600
1,100
3,500
176
950
370
625
100
750
500
70
1,709
70
2,000
100
7,250
3,488
23,500
800
8502
600
2,100

BUDGET
2002-2003
$30,500
4,250
1,000
26,800
16,100
6,200
1,000
6,100
5,250
1,000
$98,200

3,000
3,000
$94,510

$100
2,500
18,000
3,100
1,950
800
3,600
1,100
3,500
176
950
370
625
100
750
500
70
1,700
805
2,000
100
7,250
3,500
23,500
600
8,502
600
2,100
3,000
3,000
$94,848

$5,390

$3,352

SAWE member can submit potential award candidates to the Awards

Committee. Please contact any member of the Awards Committee for
additional information.

Vice President Technical Director

Brett Anderson
714-921-0716
brett.l.anderson@boeing.com

The 2002-2003 Awards Committee includes the following SAWE

Honorary Fellows.

Plans are set for the 62nd International Conference in New Haven,
Connecticut. I was unable to attend the planning meeting because of
business commitments, but the other executive officers and members
of the host chapter were able to carry on. From what I have heard,
the hotel is an excellent site and is near a large number of attractions.
I look forward to our upcoming conference in New Haven next May,
and I am also looking forward to seeing all of our members who can
attend.

Richard Boynton
Rex Chrisco
Cathy Griesinger

Ideas for papers are coming in every day. Please contact one of our
session chairs or me to submit an abstract. One important change
this year is that SAWE will be transitioning to a paperless or digital
media (CD-ROM) distribution of all papers received. To accommodate
this change, the best paper judging will include only those papers
received in the proper format prior to the conference. The Instructions to Authors are being revised to reflect this change and everyone
is encouraged to get their abstracts and papers in early to help us
make this change.

Robert Johnston
Thomas Oole
John Wisniewski, Chairman

Government/Industry Chairman
Larry J. Linner
(770) 793-0025
larry.linner@lmco.com
The summer is over and the leaves are changing on the trees. As sure
as the changing of the seasons, it is time to begin firming up plans for
the International Conference next May. As we are always looking to
be responsive to coordination needs across our profession, please feel
free to contact any of us regarding topics you feel warrant discussion
at one of your workshops.

I would like to take an extra moment to thank the session chairs and
the other unlisted members of the Technical Committee for all the
help. Also the following individuals: Matt Myers, Thomas Koonce,
Ron Fox, and John Hargrave deserve special mention for stepping in
and getting things done at the planning conference when my last
minute schedule changes prevented me from attending. Thanks
everyone, and I am looking forward to our upcoming International
Conference.

Of much discussion over the last couple of years has been the topic
of top level processes and functional processes and ties to ISO
standards. At the May 2002 conference, a draft ISO standard was
presented and we asked for feedback. Most of the feedback (no,
make that virtually all of the feedback) was the ISO is not the way to
go. Most feel that trying to author an ISO standard is too ambitious
with too little return, and that in order to achieve ISO status, a top
level recommended practice would have to be too watered down,
and/or we would lose control over it. I am concerned, though, because
there is no recommended practice for commercial or general aviation
aircraft, and the old military requirements for military aircraft are
rapidly losing their firmness.

Awards Committee Chairman

John S. Wisniewski
(610) 566-9291
Chapter Directors will soon be contacted regarding SAWE awards
for 2003. In accordance with the awards procedures outlined in the
Operations Manual (1.4.4 Awards), a letter and instructions will be
mailed to each chapter director in December 2002.
Potential candidates for Honorary Fellow, Benefactor, Fellow, Ed
Payne, and Student Awards must be submitted to the Awards
Committee Chairman by February 11, 2003. Award candidates will
be presented to the SAWE Board of Directors (BOD) at the 62nd
Annual International Conference in New Haven, Connecticut, on May
17, 2003, by the Awards Committee Chairman. Awards will be
presented at the banquet on Wednesday, May 21, 2003.

Roger Belt has suggested that instead of pursuing an ISO standard,

we focus on trying to get AIAA, SAE, and SNAME to approve a
common standard for mass properties. To this end, a morning
Umbrella/Mass Properties Requirements Workshop will be established
for the May 2003 conference. The intent is to use this Workshop to
develop a top level RP process for identifying what is required
regarding mass properties tasks for a given product and guideline
references (our lower level RPs) showing how to go about
accomplishing each task..

The awards represent our top society honors. It is very important that
all persons who are qualified receive the recognition due them. Any

Anyone interested in participating in this endeavor, please send me a

note.

SAWE 2003 Technical Committee

Session

Organization

Phone

e-mail

Advanced Technology and Material

Roger Grass
Northrop Grumman
Jerry Pierson
Lockheed Martin Aeronautics

(310) 350-3674
(817) 777-5171

GrassRo@mail.northgrum.com
jerry.l.pierson@lmco.com

Airline Affairs
Jag Grewal
Robert Brown

011 44 (0)
(425) 237-3886

jag.s.grewal@britishairways.com
robert.d.brown@boeing.com

General Aviation (Civil Aircraft)

Mary Scheulen
Cessna Aircraft Company
David Miley
Northrop Grumman - ESSS

(316) 517-0933
(410) 993-5822

mscheulen@cessna.textron.com
david.l.miley@md.northgrum.com

Computer Applications
Greg Burt
Patrick Mitchell

(316) 676-4597
(425) 294-6921

greg_burt@raytheon.com
patrick.m.mitchell@boeing.com

Cost/Weight Interrelationship
Gale Armstrong
Ford Motor Company
Alan Titcomb
Northrop Grumman Newport News

(313) 248-7105
(757) 688-9954

garmstro@ford.com
titcomb_an@nns.com

Ground Transportation
Frank Carson
Tim Cross

(313) 337-3418
(313) 322-5933

fcarson@ford.com
tcross@ford.com

Marine/Offshore Engineering
Christos Filiopoulos
NAVSEA
Burt Walker
Advanced Marine Enterprises

(202) 781-3683
(504) 437-3395

filiopoulosc@navsea.navy.mil
WalkerBL@lpd17.navsea.navy.mil

Metrology
H. Wayne Clay
Clint Bower

Lockheed Martin Missiles & Fire Control

Intercomp Company

(972) 603-1583
+44 1252-672729

wayne.clay@lmco.com
cbower@intercompco.com

Preliminary Design
Ric Roy
Luis Terrazas

The Boeing Company

Lockheed Martin Missiles & Fire Control

(714) 896-6957
(972) 603-3789

ricardo.roy@boeing.com
luis.terrazas@lmco.com

Shipbuilding Material & Construction

Gerry Tschabold
Northrop Grumman Newport News
Richard Wood
Northrop Grumman Ship Systems

(757) 380-4342
(228) 935-1500

tschabold_ge@nns.com
rwwood@northropgrumman.com

Space & Missiles Technology

Steve Miyasaki
TRW
Douglas McKenna
The Boeing Company

(310) 813-9074
(256) 461-5757

steve.miyasaki@trw.com
doug.mckenna@hsv.boeing.com

V/STOL Systems
Berlin Benfield
Neal Donaldson

Bell Helicopter-Textron
Westar Corporation

(817) 280-4281
(636) 498-6004

bbenfield@bellhelicopter.textrom.com
donaldson@westar.com

Weight Control
Patrick Borden
Doug Cekal

Lockheed Martin Space Systems

The Boeing Company

(408) 756-7211
(316) 526-8177

patrick.d.borden@lmco.com
douglas.j.cekal@boeing.com

British Airways
The Boeing Company

Raytheon Aircraft Company

The Boeing Company

Ford Motor Company

Ford Motor Company

Member Concerns and Suggestions

by
Roger Belt

putting up with the grief from our late submittals. Again, the effort
out weighs the honorarium. Last, the SAWE will provide a hotel
room for the President at the International Conference if, and only if,
not paid by the Presidents company.

Welcome again to a new feature this year of the newsletter that is an

effort to improve the communication to the SAWE membership. If
you have a concern, or suggestion, send me an e-mail
(roger.l.belt@boeing.com). They will be directed to the most
appropriate person at the International level to address them. In each
newsletter, I will relay back as much as space permits. All e-mails
will be answered; and the original e-mail, along with the response,
will be sent to the Chapter Directors to share with the chapter members.
If you are a member-at-large, and would like to be on distribution for
these, let me know. Since I have not received any e-mails regarding
this column, I will use this opportunity to address some of the operations of the SAWE. Some of this information is available in the
SAWE By-Laws, Operations Manual, and in the Executive Directors
budget reports; but it might help to extract it for print here. There are
a couple of points that I would like to address: the general fiscal
operation of our society and the good old boys organization. They
are, at least in perception, related. I hope John Hargrave does not
mind me using some of his comments to address the latter.

Now each contract with each hotel is negotiated independently and is

different. Sometimes room upgrades can be written into contracts for
the officers at the same room rate, sometimes not. Sometimes rooms
can be written into the contracts that are no expense to SAWE,
sometimes not. When this happens, there is an effort to make these
rooms available to officers and session chairs that are paying their
own way, as well as to the host chapter to keep some from driving
long distances back and forth every day. That is about the extent of
perks at the International conference. Every contract is different,
and what can be written into the contract varies from hotel to hotel.
There are no guarantees when we go into negotiations.
The Good Old Boys Organization
Many of us that have been closely associated with SAWE have heard
the comment more than once that SAWE is just a bunch of Good
Old Boys. Since I must assume that I am perceived as a Good Old
Boy, I am not sure in what context the comments are made. Just
that we are Good Old Boys. There are three things that come to
mind that these comments may be directed (if I am wrong, help me
out here): the camaraderie that is exhibited by more senior members
at conferences, who gets company sponsored attendance at the
conferences, or from members that for some reason perceive SAWE
officers, session chairs, and committee chairs as some group of self
appointed elitists.

International Officers, Committee Chairs,

Technical Session Chairs, etc.
The Society of Allied Weight Engineers is a volunteer organization.
Apart from the exceptions that I will explain, none of the elected
officers, appointed officers, or committee chairs (including Technical
Session Chairs and G/I Workshop chairs) is compensated in any way
by SAWE for their society activities. They are not given travel
expenses to the conferences, they are not given free rooms at the
conferences that are paid by SAWE, they are not given a per diem by
the society, and they are not given free conference registration or
conference activities tickets. If a spouse or guest attends an activity,
they pay for it. They are responsible for those expenses as would be
any other attendee to the conference. They are like any other member
attending. Their companies may send them and pay their expenses
for the conference. If their company is not financially supporting
their attendance, they are paying their own way. All of it.

One of the things members that have served at the International

level value most about their association with SAWE is the people
they have met and the friends they have made and continue to
make. They thoroughly enjoy seeing those associates and spending
time with them for a few days at the conferences. These are friends
and colleagues that they get to see once a year at most. It is human
nature for people to gravitate to those they know. Members should
not abandon those they know, but members who have attended
several conferences need to keep in mind that they were once
newcomers and extend their hand to the newcomers, engage them
in their conversations, and let them know they are genuinely welcome. We should always be eager to make new SAWE friends and
try at each conference to mingle with people we have not met.
This is in part why the Sunday night mixer, Monday night event,
and the awards banquet are held at the International conference.
They serve to provide a venue where all attendees can socialize
together.

Having said that, here are the exceptions with decreasing order of
compensation. The Executive Director receives an honorarium
that is decided and approved by the Board of Directors (BOD) at
their annual meeting. This is done for the efforts of running the day
to day business of the society, sales of technical papers, keeping the
finances in check, establishing operating budgets, and being the scribe
of the society. Make no mistake the honorarium does not come close
to realistic compensation for the amount of work performed. In that
sense, our Executive Director is a volunteer, also. The Executive
Director receives transportation costs, per diem, and a room at the
International conference planning meeting and the International
conference. This is done because the Executive Director is our scribe
recording the business meetings of the society, and provides unparalleled support to the International officers and host committee members
at these events. The Vice President Publications also receives an
honorarium that is decided and approved by BOD, albeit smaller.
This is for the editing activities of the newsletter and journal, and

The Good Old Boys comment may relate to company sponsored

attendance at conferences, meaning that the same people get approved
to go each year. That is true at many companies, and it is hard to
break into that opportunity. Most companies today will require you to
write and present a paper (not just a presentation) or serve as an
officer or session chair at the minimum. If that is not the case, they
will more than likely send their most senior person feeling that that
person can glean the most from attending and share with the others
upon their return. At some companies where there is a true manager

of a Mass Properties group with discretionary budget, I have known

of managers who have paid their own way so that they could send a
younger engineer at the companys expense. Which brings up another
point, a lot of attendees do pay their own way. The ones that have
made it over the financial hurdles that befalls all of us at the beginning of our careers (student loans, starting a family, buying a house,
etc.) and can afford to pay their own way, are generally going to be
the more senior members. The SAWE as a society does not have
control over these situations. If only certain people are getting sent
to conferences, find out why. What are they doing to get there? Are
they writing papers? Are they serving as session or workshop chairs?
If so, you can do those things. SAWE would welcome more papers
and volunteers to chair the sessions and workshops. Do not feel like
you have to be the worlds leading expert to write an interesting or
valuable paper. Some of the best papers have come from our younger
members. The same goes for being a session or workshop chair.
There are two for every session. There would be a more experienced
co-chair there to mentor you.

self appointed elitists. First let me say that SAWE has the least
amount of inside politics of any organization I have ever been associated with or witnessed. We may not always agree on everything, but
there is no political infighting or power struggles going on at SAWE.
Three of the International officers are elected by the SAWE
membership. Everyone receives a ballot with the International
conference package. The Executive Director, VP-Publications, and
VP-Training are appointed by the President and approved by the
BOD. The President, Executive VP, and VP-Publications, make
various other appointments. Therein may be the cause of the perception of being Good Old Boys because a lot of the same names
appear in various positions. Two things drive the fact that many of
the same people are appointed to positions year after year. First,
these are the people who are willing to do the job and volunteer or
willingly accept the job when asked. Second, those who are in a
position to make appointments will tend to appoint people they know
with a track record of performing. You should not feel too envious of
these volunteers who donate a large amount of their time for a mostly
thankless job. If this is the reason you feel SAWE is a bunch of
Good Old boys, then you can make yourself known by volunteering. I have mentioned in this newsletter and in past ones that SAWE
is always looking for people who want to help out.

This brings us to the members that for some reason may perceive the
SAWE officers, session chairs, and committee chairs as a group of

SAWE 2003 Government/Industry Committee

Workshop

Organization

Phone

e-mail

Marine Systems
Dominick Cimino
Ray M. Holland

NAVSEA
Northrop Grumman Ingalls

(202) 781-3681
(228) 935-3132

CiminoD@navsea.navy.mil
mrholland@northropgrumman.com

Airline Affairs
Tony Kiscellus
Bill Morton

American Airlines
Southwest Airlines

(817) 931-1622
(214) 792-5896

Michael.Kiscellus@aa.com
Bill.Morton@wnco.com

Missiles and Space Systems

Roger Belt
Boeing Rocketdyne
Jeff Cerro
NASA LaRC

(818) 586-0309
(757) 864-9151

roger.l.belt@boeing.com
j.a.cerro@larc.nasa.gov

Military Aircraft
Scott Larson
Chris Bowser

Lockheed Martin Aeronautics

NAVAIR

(817) 763-2406
(301) 342-0205

myron.s.larson@lmco.com
bowsercc@navair.navy.mil

General Aviation
Rex Chrisco

Bombardier Learjet

(316) 946-2797

rex.chrisco@learjet.com

(770) 793-0025

larry.linner@lmco.com

Umbrella/Mass Properties Requirements Workshop

Larry Linner
Lockheed Martin Aeronautics

SAWE 2002-2003 CALENDAR OF EVENTS

Date (2002)

Event

1st Journal Mailed to Members by Executive Director

3rd Newsletter Inputs Received by VP Publications
Advance 2003 Conference Announcement from Senior VP to
Executive Director
11/8 29th Annual Southwestern Regional Conference hosted by San
11/9
Francisco Chapter
11/12 4th Central European Regional Conference in Madrid, Spain
11/13
11/12
2nd Quarter Financial Statement to President
11/25
3rd Newsletter to Printer by Executive Director
12/2
Nominations for International Officers Received by Executive
Director
12/2
Call for Award Nominations (Fellow, etc.) Mailed to Directors by
Awards Committee Chairman
12/2
2003 Conference Announcement Data Mailed to VP Technical
Director by Session Chairmen and Conference Chairman
12/13
3rd Newsletter Mailed to Members by Executive Director
12/16
2nd Journal to Printer by Executive Director
11/1
11/4
11/4

Date (2003)
1/6
1/20
2/10
2/10

2/10
2/10
2/18
2/28
3/10
3/14

3/14
3/14

Date (2003)
3/14
3/24
3/24
3/28
3/28

4/1
4/1

4/7
4/7

Event

2003 Conference Announcement Data Mailed to Executive Director

by VP Technical Director
2003/2004 Election Data to Printer by Executive Director
2nd Journal Mailed to Members by Executive Director
3rd Journal Inputs Received by VP Publications - contains more
of papers from the International Conference and original (or reprint)
material received from the membership.
3rd Quarter Financial Statement to President by Executive Director
Election Ballots , 2003 Conference Announcement, and Scholarship
Material Mailed to Members by Executive Director
4th Newsletter Inputs Received by VP Publications
Dues Packages Mailed to Chapter Treasurers by Executive Director
4th Newsletter to Printer by Executive Director
2003 Conference Program Received by VP Technical Director
from Session Chairmen, Conference Chairman, Vendor Coordinator,
and President
Executive Director Requests Chapter Status & 2003/2004 Chapter
Officers from Chapter Directors
Executive Director Requests Annual Reports from International
Officers and Committee Chairmen

4/14
4/15

Event

Executive Director Invoices Members-at-large & Company

Members for 2003/2004Annual Dues
Annual Reports Mailed to Executive Director by International
Officers, and Committee Chairmen
Agenda Items Mailed to President by International Officers,
Committee Chairmen, and Chapter Directors
4th Newsletter Mailed to Members by Executive Director
2003 Conference Program Data Mailed to Executive Director by
VP Technical Director
Application Deadline for SAWE Scholarships for Children of
Members
Papers to be considered for the Mike Hackney Best Paper Award
and Student Paper Awards should be completed and submitted to
Session Chairman no later than 1 April 2003. Contact session
chairman or Vice President Technical Director if you are not able
to meet these deadlines.
2003 BOD Agenda to BOD Members by President
International Officers and Committee Chairman Reports Mailed
to BOD by Executive Director
3rd Journal to Printer by Executive Director
Election Ballots Counted by Executive Director

5/1

Copies of Technical Papers (200 copies) to be presented at the

International Conference are sent by the authors to the Technical
Papers Chairmans address as shown in the Direction to Authors.
5/1
2003/2004 Chapter Status Reports Due to Executive Director
from Chapter Directors
5/12
4th Quarter Financial Statement to President
5/16
Arrival & Hotel Check-In for 2003 SAWE Board of Directors
Meeting, Omni Hotel, New Haven, Connecticut
5/17
2003 SAWE Board of Directors Meeting (additional meetings as
required 5/18- 5/21)
5/17-5/18 SAWE Training Classes
5/18-5/22 62nd Annual SAWE International Conference, Omni Hotel, New
Haven, Connecticut
5/18
Hotel Check-in and Conference Registration
Annual Reception
5/19
Technical Sessions
5/20
Government/Industry Day
5/21
Technical Sessions
Awards Banquet
6/16

3rd Journal Mailed to Members by Executive Director

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