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May6th,2015at6pm
Attendance:RandallMyers(BACALCatania),MattAccernero(BACW1),EllenJones
(BACW3),ErikKugler(BACALGrosso),DavidCranor(BACW6),DavidAlexander
(BACW2),HeatherEdleman(PACSupportServices),JeanieOsburn(BACFacilities
CommitteeChair),JoshGhaffari(DCOP),JeffJohnson,EmilyOaksfort,RobMcPherson,
UrsulaSandstrom(BACSupportServices)
Materials:PrioritiesforNextYear(9/13/15MeetingMinutes),OversightHearingYear
Priorities,04/27/15FacilitiesCommitteeMeetingMinutes
TermLimits
BACattendancerelatedtovacanciesoftheCouncilandBAC
Ellennoteditdoescycleupanddownhistorically
Dowehaveaquorum?
Quorumcomprisedofappointedmembers
6votingmemberspresent
Inthefuture,sowehavelessoftheseconversations,DavidCsuggestedconferencecalls
Helpthegeneralabilitytohaveaquorum
Couldbedonewithfreeconferencecall
Alternativelyvideoconferencing
DecidedthattherewasaquorumbecausethereisnoappointedmemberforMendelsons
spotandthereforethereare12appointedmembers
Vacanciesshallbefilledinthesamemannerasappointments,withtheappointedmemberto
servetheremainderoftheunexpiredterm
Motionpassed
TermLength
Do3yeartermsmakesense?DavidC.asked
Perhapspurposefultonotbeinsyncindependentadvice
SuggestedbyDavidA
DCCouncildiditpurposefully,theyknowtheyhave4yearterms
3yearterms
Alotofturnover
Mucheasierfor4yeartermstocoordinatewithcouncilmemberappointments?
DavidAdisadvantageiswithfixed3yearterms(overlaps)theBACmemberhas
frequentpotentialtoshowcouncilmemberswhoweare
4yeartermswouldhave50%turnoverevery2years
Makesitlesspoliticalif3yearterm
DavidCproposedamotiontosuggest4yearterms
Doesnotpass
TermStaggering
Motionproposed:
Thecommunitymembersshallbeappointedforatermof3years.Termsshallbestaggered
withrepresentativesappointedbythecouncilmembersofWards1,4and8aswellasthose
appointedbytheatlargecouncilmemberswhoseseatsareelectedinyearsdivisibleby4
startingin2013andevery3yearsafterrepresentativesappointedbythecouncilmembersof
Wards3and7aswellasthoseappointedbytheatlargecouncilmemberswhoseseatsare
electedinyearsdivisibleby2butnotby4,startingin2014andevery3yearsafterand
representativesappointedbythecouncilmembersrepresentingWards2,5and6aswellas
thecouncilchair,startingin2015andevery3yearsafter.
Motionpassed
SidewalkRiding
AftertheLegislativeCommitteehadproposedsomeamendmentslastmonth:
SecondtolastbulletTheD.C.PedestrianAdvisoryCouncil(PAC)andtheD.C.
BicycleAdvisoryCouncil(BAC)believethattheDistrictofColumbiashouldimprove
bicyclefacilitiesacrossthecityasquicklyaspossible
tomakethestreetsthepreferred
choiceforbicyclists
Thirdbullet
Whilerecognizingthatsidewalkcyclingissometimesappropriate
,itis
generallyconsideredsaferforpedestriansandbicyclistswhenbicyclistsrideinthe
streetratherthanonthesidewalk.
ThePACmettodiscusstheedits.
Theyagreedtoproposedamendmentonthesecondtolastbulletbuthada
counterofferonthethirdbullet.
PACcounteroffer
WhilerecognizingthatsidewalkridingsometimesMAYBEappropriate,itisgenerally
considered
Inplaceof:
WhilerecognizingthatsidewalkridingsometimesISappropriateitisgenerally
considered
BACDiscussion
Mayorcouldcreatezonesofnobikesonsidewalks
Statementwouldsetwhatwethink
Waspartoftheinitialthinkingonthisjointstatement
CruxofchangeargumentforBACamendmentsatlastBACgeneralmeeting:
Weather/child/inexperiencedsidewalkriding
Secondtolastbullet
DavidAproposedthemotion
Ellenopposedrealitiesofpublicspacetomakeageneralizedstatement,canontake
ageneralizedstatementaboutourindividualexperience
Sidewalkridingdoesthemotiondoanything?
Opendialogue
Twooversighthearingsbothtimestheyaskedaboutsidewalkcycling
IdeaisPAC/BACstatement
Canbeappropriate,shouldencouragestreets
Mollifyheadlines,helpDDOTbuildmoreinfrastructure,pointsthemtothefix
Ellenletterwriterswontbemollified
BACrolenottochangepublic,ourroleistoadvisethecouncilonpublicpolicy
Statementisasolutiontocomplaintsaboutbicyclists
Thirdbullet
Mattsuggested
Bicyclefacilitiesinsteadofstreet
Helpspointcounciltorightrelationdirection
DavidCreadsstreetsasnotsidewalk
Heatherproposed
Whenbikesandpedestriansarenotsharingthesameplace
Thenwhatabouttrails?
LetsgetatEllensconcerns
Theproblemisthebehavior
Differencescouldhelpdistinguishbetweenthetrailsandsidewalk
Notastatementofalltheexamplesonaverage
Ellenaveragesdonotexistinreality
Paintingourselvesinacorner?
Tryingtospeaktoconcernsofpedsbeinghit
Generallysafer
Ericsaferonthesidewalksthatontheroad
Heatherproposed
Howeverinsteadofitisgenerallyconsideredsaferforpedestrianifbicyclistsridein
thestreet
Motionproposedtostrike3rdbullet
Erikproposed
Motionfails
MattproposedwithPACedits
Motionfails
Lotsofstrongfeelingsonthewayitswrittenputscyclistsasthecauseroftheproblem,rather
thaninfrastructure.
Sendoutlanguageonemoretime
Havecomments
Canvoteviaemail
May18th
HavecommentsbyMay15th
FacilitiesCommitteeUpdate:
RollingmeetingofVanNessforofficeofPlanninginputfortheneighborhoodvisionplan
OfficeofPlanningtransitthroughouttheParkandeast/westconnectionsareimportant
MeetingdidntaddressNorth/southbutmostofusrodeupConnecticut
Notbadforreasonablyexperiencedcyclists
VanNessHeadingwest
Niceroad,gentleincline,needstoberesurfaced
Inthebeginning,itgoesgentlyup,wideenough
RoadtoNebraska
TomQuinnhadsomesuggestions
AUistryingtobegreen,goodexceptfortransportation
AlongNebraskatoWardCircle
Greencirclethatnobodycangetto
Nocrosswalks
NationalParkServiceowns
OnNebraskatoNewMexico
TolookatthenewbikelaneonNM
Gettingoutofscope,getanewridetoTomsideasatalaterdate
Haventdonearideinthatarea
BackonNebraskato42ndSt
Hasniceminitrafficcircles,trafficcalmers
Extremelypleasant
NebraskaAve
Wideningthesidewalktotrailwidthwouldbehelpful
AbermarleSt
Hasabitmoreofagrade,needsrepairpockmarked
BacktoConnecticut,plannedtogotoTildenbutthestormstartedbreakinganditwasdark
NextCommitteemeetingisAdamsMorgan
June15that18thandColumbia
CMNadeauwantstocome
Safety
Didnotmeet
JeaniehadacrashearlyinMayinfrontoftheFBIBuilding
RemindertolookatcrashpageofWABA
MPDreportinconsistentwiththathappened
Jeaniewroteoutcorrection
Lookslikemoreneedstobedoneonpoliceeducation
Legislative
BicycleandPedestrianWorkingGroupCMCheh
May21,28,June4,11
Suggestionstobediscussed,forwardtoDavid
AdamhasadeadlineofMay8thtosubmitideasforthepedestrianmaterials
AnotherweekforbicyclesMay15th
Insurancelobbyists
Wanttosquashcontributorynegligence
DavidC.
Enforcement,liability,reportingisthewaytoreducerashes
DClawisgoodish,itsthereporting/enforcement
DavidA.suggestedthatifincidenthadavehiclethatthenonmotorizedpartyisfavored,if
youcauseanunjustlytothem,themotorizedvehicledriverisliable
Netherlands?
SendthistoAdam
Housekeeping:
Ellenrosterisindisarray
MattAccernerowillbeleavingtheBACinJune
InterimchairRandall
Sendaroundyearprioritiesagain
InvitecouncilmemberstotheirpitstopsonBiketoWorkDay
Rideinwiththem
W5shouldgetincontactwiththeircouncilmemberre:NYAveTrail
Compplancoming
ActionItems
SendaroundyearendprioritiesUrsula
VoteonSidewalkRiding