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13 Littler Mendelson
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By Howard Rubin
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18 Tedesco Law Group
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By Anil S. Karia
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Attorney at Law
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Curriculum Vitae
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DIRECT EXAMINATION
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Q. In what field?
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A. Law enforcement.
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