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Cynthia Sue Larson

Make the Leap from Accidental Manifestor to Conscious Creator


ALEXIS BROOKS: Welcome, everyone, to another episode of the New Mind, Body,
Spirit Summit by Conscious Life News. Were so happy to have another wonderful guest
whos going to be sharing with us so many empowering tools we need in this new world.
I say new world and youve heard me say this before because I really believe
weve entered into a new paradigm, a new way of living and being. Even though there
may be some of you on this call who may be saying, I dont see anything different.
Things are slightly different. The frequency is rising, and thus our own frequency is
rising as well. Why not take advantage of that? Why not really sit for a moment and
contemplate the fact that things may be a little bit different in a good way?
Things are speeding up. Manifestation is happening quicker. Weve got a wonderful set
tools and array of guests who are going to tell us how to leverage these tools in this new
world.
Today, I have Cynthia Sue Larson. Not only is Cynthia a dear friend, but she also
happens to be a best-selling author and spiritual life coach. Shes been featured on
numerous TV and radio shows, including the History Channel and BBC since 1999.
Cynthia has published the popular monthly Reality Shifters e-zine, covering the subject
of how consciousness changes the physical world.
I want to tell you a couple of things other people have said about Cynthia pertaining to
her book well talk about today called Reality Shifts.
This from Dr. Larry Dossey: Cynthia Larson helps restore a sense of majesty and
wonder to our everyday world. If you think science has explained away the magic of
existence, you seriously need to read Reality Shifts.
This from Dr. Fred Alan Wolf: I recommend Reality Shifts for its clarity and for its
message of hope.

Those are some pretty heavy commendations, Cynthia. Lets get right into the
conversation about where this is all coming from. Welcome, first of all.
CYNTHIA SUE LARSON: Thank you. Its great to be here.
BROOKS: Its great to have you here. So today, were going to be talking about Reality
Shifts from a perspective of -- heretofore, have we been manifesting but accidentally;
in other words, unconsciously? Is that what has happened thus far? And now, in this new
paradigm were in, do we have the ability to really grab hold of our manifesting powers
and start to consciously create?
We want to talk about that. I want to ask you a question before we really get into the
center of this discussion. Were going to talk about how the subconscious and
unconscious work, as they relate to manifesting. I want your definition, Cynthia, of the
subconscious. What is the subconscious as opposed to the unconscious, and are they
linked?
LARSON: Thats a great question. Often, those two words are used fairly
interchangeably in terms of being synonyms we think of. Whenever we consider that
someone is lacking awareness, such as someone lying unconscious on the floor, that they
are just totally out of it. Psychologists and psychiatrists prefer to use that term
unconscious rather than subconscious.
But I actually love the word subconscious, and Ill tell you why. The reason I love it is
sub- indicates theres something below. When you get a sense of the awareness you have
in your body that you have a body knowing thats from your head to your heart to
your gut to your feet. You can get cold feet before getting married; people talk about that.
That would be your feet telling you something. You can get a strange gut feeling; its
telling you something. These are subconscious communications, and that exactly is how
we tend to manifest things.
In other words, we might think in our heads we know what we want. We might feel like,
I definitely, definitely, definitely want to win this prize or this raffle, but how come we
never seem to win anything? The key to it along with beliefs we have that there can
only be one winner, that there tend to be losers, that kind of thing would be that
perhaps theres some subconscious issues of worthiness that individual has. So
absolutely, the subconscious is a driving force in pretty much everything we experience.
BROOKS: I was watching a talk within the last week that talked about the subconscious
as sort of a repository for bits of information. They say we process perhaps millions of
bits of information every second. We do process it, but most of that information is not
consciously processed. In other words, if were processing three to four bits of
information and theres still 30,000 to 40,000 bits, they may indeed be stored in the
subconscious. I wanted to get your thoughts on that and how it relates to what were
talking about.

LARSON: That relates beautifully to what were talking about because the conscious
mind is only capable, like you said, of the tip of the iceberg. I dont know what the
percentage is, but lets say it only gets 3 to 10 percent of what the totality of information
available might be. The rest of it is just underneath the surface. Its the subconscious; its
huge.
So an iceberg turns out to be a perfect example and metaphor for what were describing,
but we dont tend to think of it that way. We tend to imagine our minds are running the
show and we can listen clearly to people who have differing opinions without having
knee-jerk, emotional reactions. That is not the case, and thats very important for people
to understand. When you want to make that leap from an accidental manifestor to
someone whos consciously creating, that is a leap of awareness and recognizing theres a
whole lot going below the surface inside each and every one of us.
But its not a bad thing; its more a matter of becoming friends with that fuzzy logic, that
parallel processing thats occurring just below the threshold of our typical awareness.
BROOKS: How to we become friends with that fuzzy logic? Thats, I think, maybe the
million-dollar question. I know its a deep question, but how do we connect to that area
or at least begin? I know this cant happen in a vacuum.
LARSON: I would recommend meditation as a gateway. People often think, Oh my
gosh, meditation. Thats scary, I cant do that. But its actually something were doing
all the time. Its a process of choosing a favorite focus of attention and activity. It really
is as simple as that putting the two things together. You can learn to focus your
breathing and go on a walk outdoors, and thats totally meditation. Or you can close your
eyes and focus on the taste of a single raisin and bring your awareness to that. That is
meditation.
BROOKS: And by doing that, Cynthia, were connecting to what you call that fuzzy or
vague area where those other bits of information were not normally in touch with are?
LARSON: Right. This is what meditation people would call mindfulness. And getting to
a state of mindfulness is indeed getting to a place where you can access that very
subconscious information, whats below the surface of the water and tip of that iceberg in
yourself.
You can get increasingly honest about how you genuinely feel about things. And the
more honest and aware you are of yourself, your needs and your feelings, youll be in a
much better, stronger position to navigate all the challenges of life without feeling like
people are pushing your buttons or someones doing something to do or think life isnt
fair. Its about getting to a state of internal balance that enables you to more gracefully
move through the world and all the challenges that inevitably are faced by each one of us.
BROOKS: Im listening to what youre saying, and Im shaking my head on the other
end of the phone, Cynthia, because as our audience knows we had Penney Peirce as

our opening speaker for this telesummit. Im smiling because what youre saying is really
sort of echoing what she was saying about mindfulness and the fact that most of us is
beneath the surface. She even used the iceberg analogy. And no, folks, Cynthia and
Penney were not speaking prior to this call. Im smiling because it lends credence to what
youre saying.
There is something going on here. Indeed, so much of us is beneath the surface, but
again, its a matter of how we tap that.
I want to stick with the accidental manifestor. This is quite a label. Some people might be
offended by it. Accidental manifestor what does that mean? Things arent going
right for me financially. I just got a divorce. I was just diagnosed with an illness. These
are manifestations. Are we doing this? How is it accidental? I really want to stay with
that for a little bit.
LARSON: Right. When I say accidental manifestor, Im actually describing what I would
call reality shifts that occur around us. This would be the realm of the missing keys or
missing sock in the laundry. Or, for those who love to notice psychokinetic effects, were
driving along and lights go out or were using our computer and it crashes because were
just in a bad mood. These things to happen to people who have a lot of energy and arent
grounded.
That would be the kinds of things people often notice. If you dont notice that realm of
experience, you might also be noticing things like synchronicities, like whatever youre
afraid of seems to be all over the place. Its very strongly focusing your mind on
something, bringing a lot of energy to it, and it just totally seems to be coming in big
time.
For example, I went for a walk in the park near my house with a friend who, I didnt
know it at the time, has a deep fear of snakes. Ive never seen any snakes. She just asked
me sort of a nervous question, Are there snakes in this park? I said, Oh yes, Im sure
there are. That wasnt so remarkable. What was remarkable was, in the process of the
next 30 minutes, we saw not one but two snakes that were more than five feet in length,
and in my whole life, Ive never seen any snakes in the wild of that size and certainly not
in this park. I was astonished, and she was quite horrified. [laughs] Buckets full of
snakes. But Id never seen them. Im sure we saw them because she came with me and
she was that afraid of snakes. In fact, the only time Ive ever seen such big snakes are
when Ive been with people who are just deathly afraid of them. Its like a magnet.
Just like when you go to someones home with people who dont like cats, thats the
person the cat goes to first. Always.
BROOKS: So thats what you mean when you say accidental manifestor: That which
were concentrating on with a sense of fear and trepidation may have a tendency to show
itself to you more because were giving it authority and energy, right?

LARSON: Giving it energy and all that emotion. Its really the mindfulness meditation.
The kind of things I recommend people do is become aware of what their internal beliefs
are because thats where you can really make a big change, whether youre experiencing
destructive interference, where youre actually cutting into the wave form of intention. If
you think everything is energy, everything actually is just waves of vibrating strings,
basically. There is actually a String Theory that describes the universe that way. But we
know, at the smallest levels of matter, its really energy, as much as we could call
anything matter.
If youre thinking of your thoughts as vibratory waves and you have a fear thats
clobbering that thought form -- Youve got a beautiful wave of building and building
waves that are rising up to a peak that would be constructive interference, where
youre just thinking good things, thinking, Im going to get the house of dreams or
Im going to find the love of my life or whatever it is youd love to manifest for
yourself thats really good all positive.
We know what this feeling is that comes next when somebody comes along and throws
the wet blanket on it. It might be an inner thought you have or someone makes a casual
remark like, Well, that will never happen. That could be some sort of self-talk that
happens. But whenever we get that destructive interference, weve put a big hole in the
middle of the waves were building up to bring exactly what we desire.
BROOKS: So constructive versus destructive. Im actually writing this down. Thats a
very critical point. We know this is a society that tends to immerse us in destructive selfdialogue and programming. It can be a very difficult task to stay on track with the
constructive versus destructive.
I want to talk a little bit about the power of words, which is relevant to what were talking
about now. I remember reading many years ago a book called The Power of Your
Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy. It is filled with anecdotes and examples about
how the subconscious is a very proactive participant in our lives, but this story sticks out
in my mind, Cynthia. Listen to this.
Murphy tells the story of a man who had a daughter who was about to approach college
age. I guess hed been having some financial difficulties, so he was not sure hed be able
to send her to college. He was in the habit of repeating this mantra: I would give my
right arm to see my daughter go to college. I would give my right arm to see my daughter
go to college. Although he wasnt necessarily thinking of this in literal terms, he would
repeat it.
Well dont you know, what happened is at some point was he was in his car and was in
an awful accident. Guess what happened? He lost his right arm. It was amputated. And if
thats not shocking enough, some unrelated incident in close proximity to when he lost
his arm allowed his daughter to go to college maybe a scholarship was granted that
allowed her to go to college.

This was poignant to me. I read this book well over a decade ago.
LARSON: I share stories just like that in my book, Reality Shifts well, not just like
that but the positive side of it: high-energy money and reality shifts. Because what we say
and how we treat our subconscious makes a huge difference.
Ill give you an example from a gentlemen who attended one of my workshops in the
energy fields in Sacramento, Calif. Hed just heard my book, Aura Advantage and been
listening to my Aura Healing Meditations CD. Hed heard about how money can just
appear out of nowhere because I told him about an experience where Id had exactly the
money to pay a waitress a tip that had not been in my wallet, but I opened my wallet to
check again and kept finding dollar bill after dollar bill after dollar bill. I came up with a
total of six $1 bills. I was with my daughters kids are great because they have open
minds to this sort of thing. Its like a magic trick, but its happening.
And you might wonder, What the heck is going on with something like that? There are
people who have an open mind to the fact that coincidences, synchronicities, spontaneous
healings all these kinds of things are real. I know that to be true from my personal
experience, so I would be very careful making any kind of statements about what I wish
to be happening. Id caution everybody listening to this: Dont say thinks like I would
give some body part in order to get something good. You dont need to do that.
So what happened with this gentlemen who came to my class was hed heard about the
money to pay the waitress I wrote about in High Energy Money, and amazingly, he
came home after this workshop and had been doing the meditations and working with the
energy. He opened his desk drawer and found $1,000 right there in an obvious place that
he could never have overlooked. He thought that was amazing because hed been wanting
to do that.
That is just one of many, many stories of people finding exactly what they need. That
seems to be a common thread: getting exactly what you need. Like the money for the
college just the right amount. Thats very typical of these kinds of below-the-water,
subconscious types of manifestation.
The big step in making that leap from accidental manifestor to conscious creator is
recognizing the power of our subconscious and knowing its doing the work for us. Its
the power when people say, Let go, let God. You can recognize theres a partnership
between each of us in the multiverse, the oneness, even if youre an atheist. Realize
letting go and not worrying and fretting is a good thing because youre taking yourself
out of the here come the snakes experience or losing your right arm and moving into a
much better how good can it get world.
BROOKS: Right, right. Im looking at this wonderful list of books and audio well be
offering to our telesummit participants that includes Reality Shifts and High Energy
Money. Before we got on the call today, Cynthia, you and I were talking about, I know
people are really going to want to know a lot about High Energy Money because its

no secret: People are in dire straits financially. Not everybody, but way too many.
Although I know High Energy Money is not just about how to get money, but money
that is received through this magical way. Lets not even say money, lets say resources
because resources come in a myriad of ways. I want to talk about High Energy Money
a little bit more as we go forward. This is a big subject for people.
As far as the example I gave a few moments ago about losing your right arm, again:
Dont repeat these things because the subconscious cant take a joke. There are other
ways of achieving what we need not just what we want but what we need, right?
LARSON: Thats exactly right. Im glad youre mentioning High Energy Money, and I
was mentioning it, too, because there are some self-assessment surveys in that book that
help people discover money issues, even along the lines of giving your right arm. On a
subconscious level, often people feel they have a very deep-seeded ability that they
may not be conscious of that they feel overwhelmed, for example, with bills and
expenses, or they feel like they dont know what to do to move forward or have what they
need. Or they just have a negative self-image regarding themselves being prosperous.
These are the kind of things I describe in the book. Its so important to envision the
financial prosperity, what you might think of as high self if were talking about the
subconscious, its the low self then that visioning would be the tip of the iceberg
where you could see and get a clear picture of it.
Our middle self our heart and feeling good is equally as important. And when you
feel good about money, which is what the whole High Energy Money book is all about,
youre improving your relationship with it. Its so funny that people give into
relationships with money where youd never have a relationship like that as a boyfriendgirlfriend or consider that a partner for marriage.
People treat money terribly. They treat themselves terribly with regard to money.
BROOKS: Thats right. Thats right.
LARSON: This is really a whole process of improving your overall relationship at
every level with money, from the envisioning of it to feeling about it to working
effectively with it.
BROOKS: Feeling good about money is something that if you were to ask some of the
people on this call, theyd say, Sure, I have no problem with money. But I dont know
if thats really what were saying here. The message is that so many of us have been
given since birth, practically that theres a shortage of money in the family or were
overwhelmed with bills or I never attract the right job to bring me the money I need. Its
always negative connotations associated with money. So, if thats the case and I think
most of us here can admit that weve used those phrases on at least one occasion were
not really feeling good about money.

Maybe were afraid of money. Maybe its something we feel were not allowed to be
friends with. So once again, in talking to the subconscious, its about retraining or
bringing up those bits of information that say there is no need to be afraid of or not feel
good about money.
LARSON: Exactly. So theres a whole section in my book about feeling good about
money so you can say, I feel confident that what I need will be mine. And by the way,
that tends to be exactly true when people move into mindfulness, do meditation and start
getting to that place where you can trust the universe to take care of your needs. And you
can say things to yourself like, I love remembering past successes and achievements,
and I feel a sense of excitement in setting financial goals.
If you notice any tension when Im saying any of these things, thats a tip off that there is
a little bit of a blockage there for you in particular. Thats why I would look at this as
much as a workbook as anything else. Its not a book you just read and youre done with
it. Its intended to have a whole bunch of inspiration through actual stories.
For example, a woman was playing a shot machines in a casino, and she won twice.
Millions of dollars. In her case, it starts becoming clear why these things can happen.
How can one person win twice at something like that? Hit a huge jackpot? Well, for her,
it makes it very clear to see when you look at the true life stories that a person like
that was always intending to share everything. She had a very clear sense of taking her
entire family on a cruise. My friend was flying back on an airplane with her and was
amazed to see most of the passengers on that flight were coming back from that cruise
with this wonderful woman whod taken her whole family.
So thats the kind of mindset to get into one of excitement, real enjoyment and
gratitude.
BROOKS: I feel confident that what Ill need will be mine. Is that the sentence? Thats
very powerful. Well, I want to try an experiment. This is off the cuff, off the script.
Cynthia, I love your voice. You have such a soothing, warm, almost-angelic voice to me.
Ive told you this before. Do something for our hopefully thousands of thousands of
listeners from around the world. Can you say that three times? And folks, I want you to
listen carefully. Just that one sentence, you can say it in such a way. And folks, as youre
listening to her voice and its just one sentence I want you to repeat that mantra to
yourself.
LARSON: And feel the energy of it, because this is the way we can really have a world
where we all win and everything is good for everyone, which I believe in. I believe thats
why were doing this show, and thats whats so wonderful about Conscious Life News
and everything were doing here in this entire summit.
Yes, OK, here we go. And this is all about feeling good about money. Im going to repeat
this three times. If you would, close your eyes and get to a very peaceful place inside

yourself. Open your mind, open your heart. Just relax. Breathe deeply and fully, all the
way down to your abdomen. You can hear and think to yourself: I feel confident that
what I need will be mine. I feel confident that what I need will be mine. I feel confident
that what I need will be mine.
BROOKS: Do you feel it everyone? Maybe I shouldnt have spoken that clearly.
[laughter]
LARSON: I can sure feel it.
BROOKS: I think everyone should write this down. There are certain affirmations that
seem to carry an energy of their own, maybe more so than others. Whatever we chose for
our mantra or affirmation, weve got to feel it. Ive talked about that in my own work in
conscious musings and heart-based visualization techniques. Its not about recitation but
about feeling it. But the words are the beginning.
LARSON: There are different levels of feeling. (Just tying in with what we were talking
about earlier.) This is the idea of the chakras, the energy centers that exist within us. You
can think of your mind as the tip of the iceberg. Youve got a chakra on the top of your
head, which is a spinning wheel of light, which opens up the energy to all the dreams,
daydreams and visions you might be getting from your high self, your
superconsciousness.
Then theres the third eye on the forehead, which corresponds to that pineal gland, which
actually is a lot like a little eyeball there. It has a lot of the same cells and has some light
sensitivity, actually. Thats why we need to turn our computers and TVs off and get some
dark time each night. But it gives us the inner knowledge of everything and everyone
around us so we can see through to the heart and truth of things.
The throat chakra is our communication center. The heart is pretty self-explanatory: Its
everything and everyone we love. The solar plexus is right below where the rib cage
comes together. And then right below the belly button, weve got the whats got so many
names: dan tien, the Sacral chakra, the Hara chakra, the ocean of ki whatever you
want to call it, its our powerhouse center. When talking about the subconscious, this is
where pretty much all the energy runs like an engine in our body. It does circulate
through the whole being, but and people who study martial arts like I do know you
cant break a board unless youre breathing from the belly button. Its extremely
important.
And then the Kundalini chakra is at the base of the spine. These are the seven primary
chakras, energy centers. Thats why its so important, like you said, that you feel it in
every single fiber of your body. When you find that right affirmation for you, its being
felt in your heart, being and gut all the way down there. Because if you dont feel it in
your belly or it feels like theres a tightness or issue there, chances are you wont be
getting exactly the kind of best results you deserve and one day will be learning how to
achieve.

BROOKS: You go into a lot of detail in not just High Energy Money but in several of
your books, right? I would imagine Shine with the Aura of Success. Folks, Im looking
at this package now, we will be having a discussion about what some of these wonderful
products will be. Just so you know, consciouslifenews.com/Cynthia is where you can go
to learn more about this. Well get into that more a little bit later.
Youve got a lot of great advice; things that some of us know but oftentimes need to be
reminded of. I want to tell you another little story. Before we got on the phone today,
Cynthia, I wasnt feeling that great. We all have those days where we arent really sure
where the manifestation of discord is coming from, but I was feeling it.
So, interestingly, I thought, I dont really have a lot of time, but I kind of need to a
power trek or maybe little power meditation. Essentially what I did is went upstairs to
my bed room. Normally when I meditate, Im sitting up, of course, but I felt I needed to
lie down. All I did was simply visualize those seven primary chakras you speak of
opening up. I sensed that, no matter where it was coming from, one or more of those
chakras had to be closed for some reason, and this was my shot at trying to stimulate
them a little bit and get them open.
I have to tell you I spent no more than 10 minutes maybe going through this exercise with
my eyes closed simply visualizing each chakra, starting with the seventh chakra (the
crown) all the way down to the root chakra. From seven to one, and each one I opened
slowly. Some were actually a little slower to open, which I found interesting. The bottom
line is when I emerged from this little exercise, I felt better.
LARSON: It makes such a huge difference. Thats exactly what I can cover or advantage.
Like you said, its part of the package. This is something people may not know, and you
can assert it yourself and say that makes all the difference in the world, but there are
meditations in this book with pictures showing what it feels like when you go through a
prosperity meditation, for example, or recognizing that you can open your heart and
summon your true love.
Theres even a picture in this book that shows what its like when you do all the wrong
things. Its kind of like the pre-meditation picture of holding hatred inside. So, if people
listening want to imagine what that looks like, weve all seen someone who just decided
theyre very angry about something. Anger is actually just like every other emotion: Its
not good or bad and can be very helpful. But when people take that anger and turn it in
and decide they have a vendetta, revenge or whatever it is, it darkens their energy on the
inside and creates this dark, muddy, yucky stuff. Its a little different than the blockages
youre talking about.
Were all energy beings, and were so empathetic and so connected to everyone else. We
are social animals meant to be part of communities, so when one of us feels a toxic
energy, we can all pick up on it without knowing quite where it came from. Thats

something thats not spoken of much, but its very much the subject of the books I write
about.
We are connected, and we have energy cords that run between each of us, and they can
profoundly influence how were feeling in those seven primary energy centers.
BROOKS: So wouldnt this somehow tie into the quantum field were living in? I want
to read something you wrote summing up what wed be touching on in this talk today.
You said, Einstein would be absolutely amazed at this time in history when several
types of quantum behaviors he referred to as spooky action at a distance are, for the first
time, being witnessed in bigger-than-quantum-particle, visible things. This past year,
scientists have observed diamonds moving in synchronicity, demonstrating quantum
entanglement happening at room temperature with visible objects. Etc.
Im not going to read the whole thing, but about something you just said a moment ago
about how were all affecting each other in this sea of energy, doesnt this somehow
pertain to what science has actually been bearing out in its experiments?
LARSON: We are getting validation of what, for all these centuries, scientists might call
speculation. Theres always been that kind of a woo, woo angle to metaphysics, which
in method just means a larger view of things. Bigger.
But now whats happening is and Im so glad you brought it up were getting
validation from scientific, reputable, verifiable experiments from a wide range of fields,
everything from what you might call quantum biology -- Whats happening right now is
physics is interacting with all these other fields, producing quantum mathematics,
quantum statistics, quantum biology, quantum chemistry, and in every single one of these
fields, were getting what appears to be macroscopic proof and evidence of quantum
behavior happening on a level we can actually observe.
So what do I mean by that? Here are some examples. You mentioned the diamonds. This
is fascinating. There have been some groundbreaking experiments at Clarendon
Laboratories at the University of Oxford in England. They have two teeny-tiny diamonds,
but you can still see them. Theyre physically separated by so many meters or feet across
the room, and when one of them is zapped with an ultra-short laser, the other responds
simultaneously. Theres nothing like that wed usually see with our naked eyes in our
daily life. Other than the fact that as I just said a second ago we are affected by our
friends and our moods. Were getting proof and evidence of that in the field of
psychology.
But some of these other quantum experiments I find so fascinating involve quantum
tunneling, which Dr. Luca Turin of the Fleming Institute in Greece proposes this is why
people can smell that familiar rotten egg smell when they have these teeny-tiny
molecules where the sulfur part of it which triggers the smell of rotten eggs might
not be situated exactly right to fit into the nose. We have receptors in our nose that can

exactly match the molecules, so it looks like these molecules are vibrating around, going
and going until they reach the spot that works. But theyre crossing barriers theyre
quantum tunneling to do it. In other words, theyre vanishing and reappearing, which
is normal behavior for quantum particles, but for the first time it seems like were starting
to see that sort of behavior in the laboratories.
I just want to give one more example (I could go on and on), but in November of 2012,
some scientists in China I cant leave them out; its just too big. I dont know if I can
pronounce their names right, but Xiao-Hui Bao, et al, at the University of Science and
Technology of China are reporting teleportation of bundles of rubidium atoms. These are
going phenomenal distances: 150 meters. Thats a long distance. And theyre using
entangled photons to transmit information. Mind you, these little things Im talking about
are very fast, short-lived things, but its just a matter of time before science proves these
things are happening on a larger scale.
The reason it matters so much is like when I was talking about those missing socks in
the laundry, things not being where you think they should be, synchronicities,
spontaneous regression of diseases were experiencing things we know about on a
quantum level, things like quantum entanglement, quantum tunneling, quantum
teleportation. Even a supervision of states like Schrdingers cat being both alive and
dead until somebody actually opens the box and looks is happening in our daily life all
the time. And Im excited were starting to get validation and verification of that in all
these fields of science.
BROOKS: Not everyone listening to this conversation may fully understand what the
quanta is; however, I have a feeling many do. When we look at a quantum particle, were
basically looking at the world of the very small the world that cant be seen with the
naked eye.
LARSON: Like photons of light. You dont see a single photon, but that is a quantum
particle.
BROOKS: Right. And are we not made of the same thing in reality?
LARSON: We are made of quantum particles. In fact, thats was the whole definition of
quanta: something that cant be divided. So when we get down to that undividable source
building block, when you say, OK, we know a molecule is made up of all these different
parts. Heres an atom, the building block of the molecule. But inside the atom oh my
gosh youve got electrons, protons and neutrons. So we built atom-smashers to tear
those things apart and see what the building blocks are inside the atom.
Thats an old phrase: atom-smasher. We call them cyclotrons and the large hadron
collider. Physicists discovered much to their surprise, shock and, in some cases, horror
when you look really closely, sometimes you dont see anything at all. Its true that
these little quantum particles, which are the building blocks of the electron, the building
block of all these other small things that are the smallest things we can see with our

microscopes and so forth. These things are so darned -- theyre beyond small theyre
pure energy. There are many experiments that have proven and shown that to be true,
such as the double-slit experiment people might have heard of.
So the thing thats so phenomenally exciting in the field of consciousness and why this
matters so much is when you realize the observer affects everything, everything has an
energetic nature and there are non-local effects for instance, you can think, observe, be
aware of or feel something youre absolutely affecting everyone and everything thats
connected to you. Its for sure; its definite.
BROOKS: Well bring this back full circle, Cynthia, back to everyday things we are
affecting unbeknownst to us and, I guess, non-locally. Now that we have an
understanding from scientific, anecdotal and esoteric perspectives, how can we get ahold
of that a little bit better, assuming we affect things from a non-local perspective? How do
we translate that? This is what were talking about today.
Yes, the science is exciting, but moreover, I think people want day-to-day examples
through their own experience of how this non-local affect is working with the
subconscious mind. Do we have a non-local connection to our subconscious mind? Is that
a fair question? The subconscious is not something thats tangible, right? Its just an
aspect of awareness. So, if everything operates non-locally at the core, do we have a nonlocal connection with those aspects of ourselves were not normally in touch with? The
subconscious, the unconscious?
LARSON: We absolutely do. I see what youre saying. Its a tricky question, in a way,
because its getting to a whole other subject of what exactly we are. Who are we? What is
the I thats listening to all of this?
Thats a really tough question to answer. It gets to the heart of what gurus have been
asking for millennia because its how do we get in touch with a part ourselves and who
are we really. Who is the me whos observing that Im having these feelings? Thats
exactly to the core of that whole thing. Its recognizing theres a part of ourselves that is,
in some sense, very much eternal and infinite in nature and were connected to all it is.
That very lofty sense of awareness some of us can get to that place and have an
epiphany of spiritual awakening, and its an extraordinary experience. Also, through
meditations its possible. Maybe being in nature people have had that experience. As I
mentioned earlier, that can be a meditation. To be in nature and be present. Theres a
wonderful energy available to us when were barefoot even just on the grassy lawn.
BROOKS: I think its absolutely our birthright to try to tap that. Ive always had a sense
of excitement about the potential we have without anyone elses approval or looking
for something from somebody else these tools inside us; its just a matter of taking
them out of dormancy.

Thats why I love Cynthias work. She addresses all these things with gentle reminders,
fantastic stories and science, which she talks about in Reality Shifts. She touches on
these themes and everything were talking about today.
I love doing this with our guests, and I want people listening to this call to realize were
doing this show for you. Assuming there are some areas in your life youd like to shore
up and make better, were doing this for you. We want to make sure this is helping you,
so I like to bring up a hypothetical situation. Im person X, and Im dealing with this
problem. Where do I start?
Im a person whos dealing with absolute financial hardship. Im also dealing with a
tenuous relationship in the workplace. Im having a couple of problems here. Im looking
at a list of wonderful products both books and audio youre offering to our
telesummit participants; where do I start, Cynthia? Where would you point me in what
Im looking at here?
LARSON: When youre feeling like problems are getting you down in general and
everythings overwhelming, Id absolutely start with Reality Shifts. I just love that
book, and I love it because so often we forget theres so much going on reality is
blipping in and out of existence and happening so fast and we can feel overwhelmed,
but when we know were moving from one discreet reality to another
Every time we make a decision or choice, were literally walking into whole new worlds.
And you read that book and see examples where people literally did that. I describe
feeling like Id lost my friend in San Francisco, for example, because Id missed the train.
I showed up late, theyd left without me, theres no note, I dont know where Im going.
Then it starts to rain because were in San Francisco even in the summertime, we get
fog or drizzling.
I could easily go to a place where I feel, This sort of thing always happens to me. Im
left out. I could go there, but I already know something: When you shift gears, just like
shifting gears in a car, and decide not to go to that low-energy place (which would be
reverse) Im going to move into first gear. First you go through neutral, which means
you meditate. Thats what I did. I cleared my mind, breathed deeply, enjoyed the rain, felt
the love of being there in that beautiful city.
Then I shifted gears. I thought, OK, Im going to follow my feet to where my friends
are, just knowing I could trust that. It takes a leap of faith to do that. But why not? What
did I have to lose? The worst thing is Id get a little wet walking around in the drizzle. So
what. So I do that.
The funny thing is -- I didnt mention this earlier, but I think San Francisco has more
restaurants per square feet than most any city in the world, so it might seem like no big
deal that you cant find where your friends went, but its a big deal. There are thousands
of restaurants in that city.

So I just followed my feet. I didnt let the odds get me down; I just went where my feet
walked. When I couldnt walk any further because I was facing a wall, I looked up and
saw a sign for a restaurant, which seemed promising except it looked like it was nowhere
nearby. But I decided that must be what Im going to because my eyes looked up and saw
that sign.
So I took an elevator because it wasnt on the ground floor. I arrived at the level for the
restaurant, stepped out of the elevator, kept telling my body to look where I need to look
and walk where I need to walk, turned my head and looked directly at my friends. Their
chins just about hit the floor.
What Im doing there is something all of us can do. Reality Shifts takes you right
through it. Its meant to bring you to that state of peacefulness, mindfulness and lucid
living. Its something thats our birthright. I think children know how to do this be in
the now, be present, trust your intuition, make friends easily. How many adults do you
know who just feel, Thats my friend! We lose that ability, and we need to regain it in
order to feel that joy in our lives again.
BROOKS: Ive read Reality Shifts. As you know, weve talked many hours about all
the anecdotes in the book and overarching theme of our birthright to witness and be part
of these shifts, as well as in some cases initiate them. I love the story of finding your
friends in the restaurant. Its certainly the epitome of synchronicity and trusting. Thats
what youve learned to do and will encourage readers of Reality Shifts to do more of.
LARSON: I think its hard. I love your question originally because when people get to
that point when they feel like the world is shattering Im going through a divorce, I
lost my job those are the times we need those miraculous shifts the most. Sometimes
people are literally going in reverse. Theyre listening to those old beliefs, the internal
self-talk that tends to be cycling them into a downward spiral. I give lots of examples in
the book of how to pull out of that, totally turn it around, move out of destructive
interference into constructive.
BROOKS: From accidental manifestor to conscious creator. I see a couple of books that
deal with auras. Ive always found that subject fascinating. Ive experimented with trying
to see the aura. I dont know if these titles deal more metaphorically with aura or actually
working with our aura. Can you talk about both Shine with the Aura of Success and the
Aura Advantage books?
LARSON: Yes. Shine with the Aura of Success is a short book, but it gives you the
basics, so its the place to start. It gives you a sense quickly about what I mean when Im
talking about the energy field why it is some days feel better than others; why a
pregnant woman can seem just glowing; why you feel supported when you have good
friends by your side or it feels horrible when youre in a group of people you can tell
dont like you it gets into the nitty-gritty of energy cords, which are those connections
hopefully from your heart to others. Sometimes, you can feel connected and people are
sucking your energy away like a vampire of energy or something.

Shine with the Aura of Success is a strong, powerful summary like a high-level
executive report of what the aura is and how to make it your friend and get the most out
of being aware of that energy you possess.
BROOKS: You talk about parasiting or vampiring energy. This is something thats being
talked about a lot, whether its lately or Im just tuning into more of it. So many people
seem to be talking about how theyre being affected by, used or treated poorly by other
people. If you could just elaborate on this a little bit more. This is talked about in the
book, and is this something that will help people figure out how to combat that negative
energy?
LARSON: Its not so much going into the vampirism as the positive side. I describe the
Roseto Effect with diagrams from scientific studies that prove close-knit communities,
where people really depended on each other -- The town of Roseto, Penn., is where this
happened, actually. Researchers were puzzled and asked themselves, Why is it these
Italian-Americans are eating the worst food imaginable that we know lead to heart
disease, strokes and early death, but these people are living long, long lives. Whats going
on in Roseto?
So they went there and found out when you live with three generations in one household,
which most Americans dont do anymore, you get all the health benefits of that close-knit
community. Youve got that (what we would call) downside, too everybody knows
your business, and it seems like theres a lot more going on than you may have bargained
for but the payoff and benefit of knowing that many people genuinely love, adore and
care for you is so wonderful.
I think many of us have paid with our health for the lack of community in our lives. Its
the price we paid for going to these little nuclear-family households. I cover that a little
bit in Shine with the Aura of Success.
In Aura Advantage, I also dont go so much into the negative of energy vampires, but I
do describe a way to clear the energy cord. Theres an illustration of cleaning the energy
cords between you and other people. You can do it right now if youre listening and
thinking, I have toxic people in my life. I know there are vampires here.
You can tell when youve brought your awareness to a connection or relationship that
feel bad because it just feels bad. You know you dont want the phone to ring and it be
them. Maybe you set a ring tone I have a friend whos ex calls, it sounds like a
submarine: Dive! Dive! So if you have someone like that in mind, clap your hands and
make that happy noise with the intention right now, right here, to clear the energy
between you. Send one hand of unconditional, divine love to them. (Ill get to that in a
minute I know, you might think you dont love them, but you do at your core.
Everybodys fine. People tend to react out of fear. Whatever issues you have, Im sure
theyre just reacting out of fear.) So you send love to them and bring love to you. Youve
now cleaned that cord between the two of you.

BROOKS: So, lets do this again. You clap your hands


LARSON: Or you can snap your fingers if youve just got one hand available.
BROOKS: So, a loud sound
LARSON: No, its a happy, clear sound that means right here, right now. Youre just
taking a random point in that energy cord youre imagining between the two of you
and breathe in as you do this, breathe in pure, unconditional love to reset this
relationship and get back to the sense of harmony all of us as newborns have when we
come into the world. We have a clean slate. You look at a newborn, and theyre happy.
Were going to get back to that happy place. You send love to whomever youre having
issues with
BROOKS: With one hand?
LARSON: One hand, sending love perfect, pure, clean, unconditional, divine love.
And I know you might want to zap them or whatever, but dont do that.
[laughter]
I know its tempting. Dont do that.
BROOKS: But theres nobody I dont like, so Im sending everybody love.
LARSON: Thats always the best thing. The thing is, theyre stewing in their own juices,
and what people who are living in fear are doing is creating a toxicity around them. By
sending them love, youre going to give them a little bit of a fast track to get out of it. It
may not happen real soon, and maybe youll never see it dont get fixated on that. If
theyre not changing, draw your energy away from them.
All that matters is youre cleaning the energy between the two of you so they cant hurt
you anymore or throw you off your game. You just know in your heart that they love you
and you love them. You have a few issues and have had them in the past, but things are
going to get better because youre resetting the connection.
BROOKS: Weve all had somewhat toxic people in our lives at one time or another, but
Ive always had this intuitive sense that if I could kill them with kindness rather than feed
and react emotionally to whatever they may have done or said to me, (in silence of
course, something I may never share with them) I send them love or a blessing of some
sort.
LARSON: Getting back to the vampire thing, because its another piece of it, I address it
in Aura Advantage. You need to recognize you have an energy-field boundary around
the perimeter of your space. For a lot of people who have vampire issues and feel drained

when theyre with people, what theyre really experiencing is a permeability to the
external layer of the energy field.
By the way, youre offering Aura Advantage the e-book for the first time its ever been
offered.
BROOKS: I know, thats exciting. Cynthia, you were telling me everybody has been
requesting it in e-book.
LARSON: Its a big international seller, and the way customs are in various countries
like in South America, its a big mess to order a hard copy.
BROOKS: So this is the first time its being offered? Are we the breaking news here at
the CLN telesummit?
LARSON: Yes, it is. And what a deal. You have the best deal going for it.
BROOKS: Speaking of deal, Im looking at everything, and this is really phenomenal.
Imagine that youll be able to pick any number of these books and sit at your leisure to
mull over some of the things weve been talking about. Cynthia also provides such a
veritable collection of answers about how we can become conscious creators versus
accidental manifestors.
Speaking of deal, Im also looking at The Sacred Shift: Co-Creating Your Future in a
New Renaissance. This is a big one. Its an anthology that included your colleague and
friend of both of ours, Steve Bhaerman, a.k.a. Swami Beyondananda. And Barbara Marx
Hubbard? Really? Thats phenomenal. Tell me about this. I think its a big one.
LARSON: We had that whole thing going with 2012 and what would happen on Dec. 21,
2012 obviously we survived that. So I thought of an anthology collaboration between
various authors for that book, 2012: Creating Your Own Shift. Subsequent to that, a
smaller group of contributors collaborated on this book Sacred Shift, which is really
about Now what?
Weve gone through that 2012 passage, that gateway, and theres a great awakening
happening on the planet right now, but at the same time, there seems to be so many
challenges and crises facing the planet, our political and economic systems and our social
fabric. Just about everywhere you look, it seems theres some kind of problem or crisis.
But theres also an opportunity.
These are visionaries, and I feel so grateful to be part of this collaboration.
BROOKS: You are in company, for sure. Was Dolores Cannon in this book, Cynthia? I
know you participated in a couple of anthologies, or am I thinking of another title?

LARSON: Lets see I believe so. I dont have it in front of me. But shes an amazing
contributor. There are so many people who love Dolores Cannons work. The
contributors Im aware of for sure are Barbara Marx Hubbard, as you mentioned
BROOKS: Diana Cooper.
LARSON: [], Patricia Cota Robles. Theyre very much at the heart and soul of this
book. But its a huge thing. Also, when people are thinking in terms of whats ahead of us
and what they can do, people tend to get overwhelmed. This book is not meant to be
overwhelming at all its meant to be light, humorous, uplifting and inspirational, as
well as helping to provide a vision for the way things can go forward so we can solve the
problems without feeling any one of us has to carry too much of a burden or were
dragging people down in the process.
BROOKS: Thats great. Well, were winding down, but before we do, I want to make
sure everyone knows what were offering here. Im thrilled about it. All of these products
were offering are available immediately; theyre all digital downloads, whether PDF or
audio, so theres no waiting on the postman to knock on the door (although sometimes
thats fun, too). These are all available immediately when you decide to opt in for this
package:
Reality Shifts (e-book)
High Energy Money (e-book, audio for the first time ever)
Shine with the Aura of Success (e-book)
2012: Creating Your own Shift (e-book)
The Aura Advantage (e-book)
Bonus: The Sacred Shift (e-book)
Again, I want to remind everybody the link is: consciouslifenews.com/Cynthia.
Cynthia, do you have any closing remarks for our wonderful participates today? Youve
shared so much great information. What would you leave us with today?
LARSON: I just love to focus people. I think focus is the essence of mindfulness. And
remember, you are just like an iceberg and have so much underneath the surface, but you
can talk to that subconscious part of you. Keep asking the universe, How good can it
get? How good can I get? How good can we get?
This is the focus, whatever your level of concentration of who you are and whats going
on around you. Keep asking, How good can things get? no matter where things are
right now. That kind of open-ended playfulness with the subconscious is powerful.
BROOKS: Yeah, it certainly is. That, and I feel confident that what I need will be
mine. Thats something Im going to take and keep with me for quite some time.

Cynthia Sue, we love you. As always, your voice resonates with me and I know it
resonates with our audience and your work even more so. Everyone take advantage of
this wonderful offer.
Cynthia, thank you as always. Youre a dear. Thanks for your time, your insight and your
wisdom.
LARSON: Thank you.
BROOKS: Take care.

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