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Be Careful From Who You Take

Your Deen
Shaykh Ahmad ibn Bazmool
Transcription by: Umm Yusuf min Sri Lanka
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Introduction: Statement of Muhammad ibn Sireen


The shaykh hafidhahullah then stated that this issue of knowing merely the groups and the likes is a
very important subject. It is taken from the statement of Muhammad ibn Sireen rahimahullah this is a
matter or this knowledge is a matter of deen, so be careful who you take your deen from. This matter is a
matter of deen, so be careful who you take your deen from. So this is how important this issue is. Is that the
knowledge when one takes from someone or o ne hears from someone or o ne learns from someone that
knowledge is going to be deen something that is going to weighty o n the Day of Judgment something that he
is going to meet Allaah with so it is important that he takes his knowledge o nly from those who are known
to have knowledge. And who are known to have taqwa and who are known to be upon righteousness,
because what he takes is going to be his path to the Hereafter so look to who you take your deen from
means that a Muslim must look and takes his deen from Ahlus sunnah, the salafiyoon the ones who follow
the salaf us salih and secondly that the o ne that he takes his deen from is someone who has knowledge,
known for knowledge, known for being upright and known for having taqwa. This knowledge is a matter of
deen so be careful who you take your deen from.

Being known for Worship is not Enough


Then the shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah ta'ala stated that Imaam Malik rahimahullah
mentions in the introduction of Saheeh Imaam Muslim that there was in Madinah a hundred men that were
pointed to by the people as being worshippers and being people who were righteous and being people
having abstinence from the dunya but no one would take knowledge from them. This statement by Imaam
Malik rahimahullah is saying, that it is not enough for a person to be known for worship and being known
for having abstinence from the dunya and being known for the outward expression of his worship that you
take from him. That these people were know for that and these people pointed to them for that but no o ne
would take their affairs from them because it was not from their affai r. Their affair was worshipping and
righteousness but their affair was not knowledge. He said that if we would understand that any of us who
would see a brother who has his thobe properly clad and the length of his beard is long we would think that
he is a schol ar of his time of the mufti of his area and this is a great mistake.

Learn First: What You Need in Your Day and Night


Then the shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah ta'ala states that there is no doubt that is
obligatory upon the people to learn ilmi shar'ee, Islamic knowledge and this is based o n the Quraanic verse,
Allaah subhana wata'alah says "Ask the people of knowledge if you do not know." And it is based upon the
statement of Prophet Muhammad salallahu alaihi wa sallam "that seeking knowledge is an obligation upon
every Muslim". And a man came to Imaam Malik rahimahullah and said, "I want to seek knowledge" and
Imaam Malik rahimahullah told him start with that which you needfor your night and your day because he
means that the areas of knowledge are many and extensive and what is important i s what you need is for
your night and your day. And of course the first thing that you need is Tawheed, because it is the basis for all
actions. And then you need taharah the prope r way to purify yourself and then you need the proper manner
of how to make salaah and like this.

So this is understood and this has been explained, it is clear that that man needs what he needs for his day
and his night of Tawheed and of taharah purification of salaah. Then we can see the mistake of those who
want that the Muslims get involved or start without knowledge in siyaasah or political issues upon the
methodology of the hizbiyyah or partisanship or defending the people who are upon shirk and bid'ah. We
see that these people who call to these types of issues are not indi viduals from whom we should take are
knowledge from.

Weakness is Due to Ignorance of the Ummah regarding the Deen


Shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah ta'ala then went on to say that in reality the weakness of
this ummah and the humiliation of this ummah is because of the ignorance of the ummah regarding this
deen. It is not like some people say that the weakness of the ummah is because it does not have the physical
strength or the weakness of the ummah is due to the fact that the disbelievers are conspiring against it. The
shaykh says no, the weakness of the ummah is from inside the ummah, that the ummah does not have
knowledge of deen. This ummah does not support Allaah so Allaah does not support it. As Allaah says in the
Qur'aan, "If you support Allaah, Allaah will support you and will make your foothold firm. He said that the
scholars say, that supporting Allaah means learning the deen, the ahkam the regulations of the deen, acting
upon the deen and studying the deen. He says it is not like those people think that what we need to do is
concentrate on the materialistic issues and if we knew about the strategies and conspiracies of the
disbelievers and their political plans and we had a system arranged with all sort of leaders and the like that
that will solve our problems. He said no, it is clear that humiliation comes from ourselves.

Based on the hadith of Prophet salallahu alaihi wa sallam that if you deal in eena which is an illegal
transaction a form of usury which means a Muslim will enter i nto which is forbidden regarding transaction
and you follow the tails of the cows meaning will give in to agriculture and these type of issues and get them
more importance than the Hereafter and you leave Jihaad neither do you establish Jihaad nor do you for
Jihaad for Jihaad he said has two types of preparations Roohi wa Maddi, Roohi meaning spiritual
preparation and Maddi meaning material preparation. And this is why you see the mistake of Usaamah bin
Laden among many reasons for his mistakes he is wrong and incorrect is he thinks that Jihaad is only the
materialistic preparation and he has totally forgotten about the spiritual preparation and he has totally
forgotten about many issues in Islaam.

And that which he is doing is nothing to do with the sunnah and which he is doing has nothing to do with
Islaam and he is in ignorance of these issues and the scholars have responded against him. So it is the issue
that the Muslims, the ummah will not learn the deen and will get involved in tijaarah and forbidden trading
transaction and will leave Jihaad and will become pleased with the dunya, then Allaah subhana wata'alah
will send upon him humiliation. And He will not lift this humiliation off from them until they return to their
deen. The scholars say return to the deen is learning the deen, acting upon the deen and spreading the deen.
He says it is not through explosions and bombings and harming individuals who had no hand in any evil and
this type of thing but it is returning to the deen of Allaah learning it, practicing it and spreading it.

Ignorant One is Not Allowed to Speak about the Deen


Shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah ta'ala went on to say so we know and understand this.
There is a very important point that we must unde rstand and that is that it is forbidden for anyone who does
not have knowledge to talk. That is if he is jaahil ignorant is forbidden to talk in the matters of the deen. And
this is something very clear from the Qur'aanic verses in which Allaah says, "Do not talk about those matters
which you have no knowledge, verily regarding the hearing, the heart and the talk all of these matters a
person will be questioned about." And then Allaah subhana wata'alah mentions the forbidden matters after
mentioning al fawaahish outwardly and inwardly and mentioning other matters and He says and to ascribe
to Allaah that which he has no authority or that you commit shirk and then He say s and you speak about
Allaah when you have been forbidden that you speak about Allaah when you have no knowledge. He said
that the scholars have got from this that speaking about Allaah without knowledge is worse than shirk.

Speaking about Allaah without knowledge is worse than shirk, for two reasons o ne is that this speaking
about Allaah tabarakta wat'ala without knowledge is something that is general something that it will affect
everybody but the state of the something he has done regarding himself. So it is forbidden for anyone to
speak about Allaah without knowledge. And there is the narration of the Prophet salallahu alaihi wa sallam
in which some of his companions was with o ne of his companions o n a journey and he got injured and when
he got injured he also fell into sexual defilement, state of junub and it was a very dark cold night and he
wanted to know if he should take wudhu or tayammum and he asked them if it is possible to do this and
they said no you must take a ghusl you must take a full ghusl, so when he did this, he died. So when this
reached the Prophet salallahu alaihi wa sallam he said, "they killed him they killed him, may Allaah kill
them. Why did they not ask if they were ignorant? Verily the cure for ignorance, is ask ing." So this shows
that it is forbidden for someone who does not know, to talk.

So Shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah says if we have understood from what has pre ceded, the o ne
being questioned if he does not know, if he cannot answer it is haraam for him to answer. He must also
know that the Muslim who does not know it, is forbidden for him to ask someone who does not know. It is
forbidden for him in matters of deen to ask someone who does not know. Rather he has to ask an aalim a
scholar someone who has knowledge and this is what Muhammad ibn Sar'ee rahimahullahu meant when he
said this matte r is a matter of knowledge of deen so be careful who you take your deen from.

Ask the People of Knowledge if You Do Not Know


He said also in our daily life we had a medical situation or whatever, will we go to a mechani c, and if
we had a problem with our car will we go to a farmer and if we wanted to construct a house will we go to
someone who is a spe cialist in cleaning. No, we will go to each individual who has a specialty in which they
are specialist in. So when it comes to an issue of deen we must go to the ulemaa we must go to the scholars.
And it is not right to say ask anybody or to do what everybody else is doing this is a major mistake also. As
comes in a narration of Abu Darda raliallahu anhu in this in the khilafa of Uthmaan raliallahu anhu in the
time of Uthmaan raliallahu anhu when he went to the masjid and he prayed and he saw some tabi'een
praying but they were not praying according to the sunnah. There salaah was not the salaah according to
the sunnah. Abu Darda went home angry. And when Umm Darda raliallahu anha saw him she said, "What
has made you angry, what has caused you to get angry."

He said, "By Allaah I don't see anything that we were doing in the time of the Prophet salallahu alaihi
wasallam that the Muslims are doing except that they pray together. Meaning that many of the sunan many
of the practices that they were doing in the time of the Prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam that individuals
were not doing it and what was left was that they were just praying together. This is Abu Darda's statement
while he is at the period which is close to the Prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam and there were a lot of
sahabahs still alive and the re were many tabi'een so what about now one thousand four hundred years after
that are the people the general masses upon sunnah? Are the general masses upon knowledge?

Are the general masses people that we should follow? No! but we should follow the ulemaa Rabbaniyeen,
the scholars who know the deen of Allaah tabarakta wata'la we should not follow what our mothe rs were
upon our fathers were upon our relatives are upon but we should follow that which the scholars are upon.
These people are not right that they follow the general masses but we should follow the Prophet salallahu
alaihi wasallam and the one who directs us to the right. In fact what the Prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam
was upon are the scholars.

Categories of People: General People, Scholars and Student of Knowledge of


Sunnah and Bid’ah
Then Shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah stated that the people are of two types. The awwam
or the general l aymen who have no knowledge and the tullabul ilm, al ulemaa they are together, tullabul ilm
students of knowledge and the ulemaa. Now the ulemaa and the students are of two types. The ulemaa who
are not in reality scholars and those are the o nes who have hizbiyyah or innovation or partisanship or
politics or this movement oriented overthrowing governments and blowing up things and things of this
nature and bid'ah and mistakes in their aqeedah and their manhaj. These individuals should never be taken
from whatsoever. The second is the tullabul ilm and the ulemaa who are upon the sunnah, salafiyeen upon
the way of the salaf us saalih . They are upon the way of the sunnah and on the way of the salaf us saalih.
These individuals the scholars are the source that you go to. The students of knowled ge are actually made a
(unclear) source.

They are individuals that you benefit from but you are never to take their statements over the statements of
the ulemaa, of the scholars. So if we reiterate this point, the awwam the general masses don't take anything
from them but rather they should be taught, for they are ignorant.And those people who are considered
scholars but their methodology is incorrect, t heir a qeedah and manhaj is incorrect they are involved in
siyasah or politics or hizbiyyah or matters that are secretive and things of this nature they should not be
taken from for they are in reality they are part of the seventy two groups that are promised the Hellfire.

Take From the Senior Scholars


Rather the one that should be taken from are the tullabul ilm and ulemaa who are upon the sunnah
and who are upon the way of the salaf us saalih. But the distinction must be made that we take the words of
the ulemaa over the words of the student of knowledge. For instance Kibar ulemaa the Great body of
Scholars like Shaykh Rabee for example says something then we take what he has said and what they hav e
said because they are the greater scholars. And it is not right to take what a student of knowledge says just
because he is salafee unless he has some clear evidence that he has stated that the scholars have missed.
But if generally speaking the people have of taking the students of knowledge because he is salafee over the
scholars is a great mistake.

Great Importance of Returning to the Scholars


Shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah said this issue of importance of returning to the people of
ilm , returning in going to the people of knowledge as a source in going back to them we have two stories
from the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alaihi wasallam regarding this issue. o ne is the story regarding the
man from before us from Bani Israel who had killed 99 individuals and he wanted to get to Allaah tabarakta
wata'la so he found an aabid a worshipper, he said notice an aabid a worshipper not an aalim a scholar. A
worshipper who was worshipping in seclusion and he said to him, "I have killed 99 individua ls, is there any
means for me to repent to Allaah to make Taubah". So this aabid who was ignorant said, "No". So he killed
him and he completed a hundred individuals. So then he went to a scholar and saying to the scholar I have
killed a hundred individuals is there any means for me to repent. The aalim said what is(unclear)between
you and making Taubah to Allaah. Of course you can make taubah but you are in a land that is evil and it is
upon you to go to such and such land where there are righteous people who worship Allaah so you go there
and worship Allaah with them." So this shows you the issue of going to the schol ar verses going to someon e
who is ignorant.

The second story is about two individuals, o ne who was righteous and the other was a sinner. And every
time the righteous one would pass by the sinner he would correct him and advice him but he would not
accept. So one day the righteous person said to him, "By Allaah, Allaah will not forgive you." So Allaah
tabarakta wata'la said, "Who is it who is bold enough to go over Me or above Me, verily I have forgiven him
and I have made your deeds nothing." So this is the righteous pe rson be cause he was ignorant he led him to
go into the area that was described by Allaah tabarakta wata'la that he would not forgive o ne of His
creatures. So Allaah tabarakta wata'la wiped away or made nothing the deeds of the obedient o ne and
forgave the disobedient one. So this shows us the importance of knowledge number o ne and that we should
acquire it and the importance of returning to the ulemaa. Don't ask anyone and everyone but ask
Raazikeena fil ilm those who are well grounded in knowledge.

Caution: Why You Should Not Take From People of Hizbiyeah and Mubtadiyah
In closing Shaykh Ahmad bin Bazmool hafidhahullah that someone might say what is wrong with
taking knowledge from the hizbiyeen and mubtadiyah (One who commits bid'ah), if they have something
beneficial to give. I'll just take the good and I will leave the bad. He said there were several issues wrong
with this. one, is that the Prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam warned against the ulemaa as soo or al jahaal,
taking from the evil scholars or the ignorant. And this is in a hadith in which he said, "That Allaah tabarakta
wata'la does not take the knowledge after having given it by taking it away from your hearts but by the
death of the religious learned men, the scholars, until the re will remain nothing but the ignorant people
who will contort it and will give verdicts according to their opinions and they will mislead others and they
will go astray and will lead others astray.

The second matter is that Allaah tabarakta wata'la and the Prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam's order of
hizbudeen , preserving ones deen. And the person who goes and sits with the innovator or hizbee is not
preserving his deen.

Thirdly, is that taking from the hizbiyeen or the innovators is that they are from the asaaghir, the small ones
and we have been forbidden or the Prophet salallahu alaihi wasallam indicated that from the signs of the
hour is that the people will take their knowledge from the asaaghir. And he said that the asaaghir are the
innovators.

Fourthly is that the mubtadih you cannot forsake from the fact that he will not oppose you. You will think
that he is giving you the best, but he will take you step by step until he pulls you and that is the way it has
been amongst the past (unclear).

And the fifth matter is that the person who is going there saying I will get the good and leave the bad is
ignorant. So he cannot protect himself from falling into a fitnah. So he can't protect himself from falling into
a fitnah. So for all these reasons above and more it is important that you take o nly from the scholars who
are known for the knowledge who are well grounded in their knowledge and we do not ask or take from
anyone else. And then he said hadha wa salallahu wa nabiyinah Muhammad.

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