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I have a 2000 ford exp. whose fuel pump sometimes does not inject
fuel. The vehicle runs fine and idles fine, but starts sporadically. Is it
possible that the fuel system is connected to the anti-theft sysytem? I
replaced the relays in distribution box and the fuel filter. Any ideas on
what the problem could be?
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Fuel system is NOT connected directly with anti-theft. Need to know
more exactly what the problem is: hard starting? Occasional hardstarting?
Most likely cause is the fuel pump itself. They use a DC motor which
sometimes will not start-up due to a "dead-spot" on the motor's
armature.
If you can hook up a fuel gauge to the fuel rail when the starting
problem is present, a low pressure, or no pressure reading will confirm
the pump problem.
It was basically starting whenever it wanted to, but ran fine once it
was started up. The problem became progressively worse. When it's
not starting and I turn the key I can't hear the fuel pump start up.
Thank you I will check the fuel rail pressure. Is there a possibility that
the PCM relay needs to be replaced? Just want to check everything
before I replace the pump. Thanks for your help!
Unlikely that the PCM relay would be intermittent. If you had wiring
diagrams from Ford, you could check that the various components,
PCM included, are getting voltage when the key is turned "on". That
sort of troubleshooting goes beyond most peoples' everyday abilities.
So, I would look for fuel pressure. If you normally can hear the pump
run for 2 seconds, then it shuts off, after turning key to "on", not start,
and you do not hear the pump run now, or occasionally, good bet
pump needs replacement.
BTW, if you are not aware, PCM turns pump on only for 2 seconds
when key is turned "on", to pre-pressurize the lines, and cover the
contingency that one wants to sit with key on, eng. off, maybe
listening to radio, or whatever. Under that condition, the pump should
not be running anyway. Soon as key is turned further to "start", PCM
turns pump on for constant running, until key is again turned off. If
eng. fails to start, pump turns off again when key is returned to "on"
or "off" position.
Hope this helps!
Since you hear the pump run when the key is turned to run and the
truck won't start, that rules out the PCM relay, the fuel pump inertia
switch, and the fuel pump relay.
Checking for fuel pressure at the fuel rail will be a very good
indication. In the event you don't have a pressure gauge handy the
next time it won't start, try cycling the key 2-3 times to build more
pressure and see if it starts right up that way. So turn the key to Run,
let the pump run and turn off, turn the key off for about 5 seconds,
back to Run, repeat two more times, then try to start the engine. If it
fires right up, that would indicate the pump is struggling to provide
sufficient fuel pressure for a start up.
-Rod
i am also having same problem just replaced the fuel pump and
getting 12v at roll over switch but pump seems to not be getting any
power or pump went bad from time i got it and tested it and installed
it but i don't think that happend due to after installing it wasn't getting
anything from it.
but still getting 12v at roll over switch.
please help if you know the color of the 2 wires that come out of the
housing of the fuel tank to the fuel pump i can then trace the wires
back to find where i am losing power
Welcome to the forum. You don't mention the specifics of your
Explorer, so I'll assume it's also a 2000 Explorer with the 4.0L.
Did you confirm there is battery voltage from the inertia switch and
not just to it? The wire colors at the connector for the fuel pump
assembly that control the fuel pump are pink/black (same as wire color
from the inertia switch) and black (which is ground). These will be
terminal locations 6 and 7 respectively.
Are you pretty confident the pump is not running? Have you checked
the pressure at the fuel rail? Have you changed the fuel pump to make
sure it's not plugged?
-Rod
yes i just got done putting a new fuel pump in ... and at roll over
switch loc. at the passanger front kick panel i get power there but
pump isn't comming on so guess i need to check resistance at ground
and power at the other wire see where i am losing a connection. not
sure if roll over switch is last shut off to fuel pump on the 2k ford
explorer sport with 4.0lt eng. if it is then there has to be a ground /
hot wire break but can't find a wiring diagram online to see if ground
might be on a relay or controlled by the pcm
well just checked my ground has no resistance so looks like it's going
to be a ground problem but don't want to just ground it to the frame
unless i know it's not controlled by the pcm
Per the factory service manual, the ground is not controlled by the
PCM, it is just a wire to chassis ground (with a couple of connectors in
between the pump and chassis). The power lead is what's switched.
-Rod
First, 12V should be present to GROUND on BOTH terminals of the
inertia switch, but ONLY when the PCM is calling for the pump to be
running-- therefore, if the engine cannot start, there will be voltage
present at the inertia switch for only about 2 seconds, as the ignition
switch is turned "ON", then the PCM shuts off the fuel pump relay,
which in turn shuts off the power flow to the inertia switch and pump.
In other words, you need to have your voltmeter hooked up,
accessible, and readable when the key is turned to "ON"-- you only get
Okay! Semantics, then. I'm not being demeaning, believe me! I firmly believe that
electricity works, the easier troubleshooting becomes (and the safer).
I have no doubt that the terms you and I throw around loosely (ground, floated, su
etc.) are enough to confuse many issues.
Sorry if I offended you. impish
If I had a track record of being correct 100% of the time rather than one where I'v
the implementation from time to time, then I may be offended.
-Rod
I know this thread dates back to March, but I am having an intermittent problem a
walk away and come back an hour later and the fuel pump will not cycle. Walk awa
it feels like it. Sometimes it hesitates when it does fire and stalls out. I have to cyc
pressure to start the engine. I replaced the filter and same issue. Explorer has alm
pump is going out? I started taking the tank out, got all the way to the fuel lines, b
one last time, which of course it did. Cycled the key 5-6 times and the pump worke
course it's back to the same thing, starts one time, doesn't start the next time.