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Federal Government He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into
The Fed Page a daze. His discursive answer - more than 2,500 words long -- wandered
Head Count from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go
WhoRunsGov.com rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on
Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal
Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its
SEARCH THIS BLOG inside-the-Beltway name, "F-Map"). He talked about the notion of
eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett,
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earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in
fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").
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the District similar to the first. "Number two, you don't know who might end up being
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to woman's claim of operating, even if you've got health insurance you don't always know
being 'over-taxed' what you got, because what has been increasingly the practice is that if
Fla. doctor urges you're not lucky enough to work for a big company that is a big pool,
patients who like
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Yep...dazzle 'em with your brilliance (which he tried) or bore 'em and baffle 'em
with your b-s (which he did)
There was a comment way back in the thread about how stupid and deceptive we
on the Right seem to be--and how ohsowonderfuldontchaknow The One is, if only
we would drink the Kool-Aid, and believe the lie that we about to be taxed into
bankruptcy. I wish I could say I don't get the way lefties think, but I know...I used to
be one, back int he 60's. Looking back, I was pathetic, with my holier-than-thou
Woodstock mentality, railing against The Man, and glorying in my intellectual
superiority to the conservatives like Bill Buckly. Now here we are all over again.
Some of us grew up after Woodstock. Some of us are now running the country--
into a dystopian nighmare.
40 years ago it was called 'stoned abstract thinking' today it's called a 'wandering
oration'. Little wonder his people don't want 0bamma to wander far from the Jerry
Mahoney teleprompter.
I must remind everyone though that 0bamma is merely the figure head of the
party that is doing all this 'change with little hope' to the hard working people of
this once great country.
The Democrats have this "enemies list" --- denominated in epithets aimed at the
people whose wallets they wish to hijack. And all you have to do to occupy
multiple epithets on their "enemies list" is to insist that they take their hands off
yourself, off your wallet, off your property, off your kids, off your liberty, and off your
freedom of speech. Insist on all these good things --- and that qualifies you to be
spat upon by Democrats --- by a gang of thieving, sticky-fingered, bloodsxcking,
predatory humanitarian thugs. Destroy them.
When words are many, sin is not absent, but he who holds his tongue is wise.
Proverbs 10:19 Lots of good wisdom in that Proverb. When someone has to take
that long and use that many words to answer a question that could be answered
with not much more than a yes or no, there's a good possibility that all that
wandering around the barn is meant to confuse and cover up. What Mr. Obama
does best is campaign, and this is just another example of him out on the road.
We can expect a lot more campaigning from him while he tries to tell us what's in
this health care bill without really telling us what's in this health care bill.
My therapist says that all people, whether Democrat or Republican, black or white,
white, natural born or Kenyan, have an internal radar that protects us against
threatening stimulus. And right now mine just so happens to be screaming, "Alert
Alert - A Hole approaching!!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sllmo73U2A
Thomas Jefferson said, "We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and
servitude."
Which one of Obama's idiot handlers let this fool off the teleprompter?
Good. The more he talks the less time he has to sign bad legislation.
Barry will Tax the crap out of all, everything, everybody. He will Tax until he brings
America to her knees. He is intent on the destruction of the Nation. That is in Fact
what his idea of Change, all along, was.
Barack Obama is a complete embarrassment and his election shows just how
stupid, gullible, ignorant, uneducated, and incompetent my fellow Americans are!
And NO ONE's household owes one single penny for our government's
spending, no matter what the government says!
I personally haven't authorized the governemt to spend my tax dollars the way they
have, and I do NOT accept responsibility for any of it's debt!
I earn my own income and pay my own bills, INCLUDING my own health and
medical insurance, and I REFUSE to pay for anyone else's just because a bunch
of socialist idiots think I should!
NO ONE is responsible for your healthcare, food, shelter, etc, but YOU! And you
sure as heck do not have the right to expect someone else to pay your bills, just
because they might have more than you do!
Keep your grubby hands off of MY income because I've never asked for yours and
I never will!
Most Americans do not know the principles by which our Founding Fathers built
this country, and they aren't worthy nor deserving of benefiting from the freedoms
and liberties our Constitution provides!
Oh, please - love me, love me - I am so superior to any pres you've ever had. I'll
talk until your ears fall off, just say you love me.
He must be fought every inch of the way or he will DESTROY this country." A BIG
AMEN TO THAT...
Posted by: greycoat | April 3, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse
barak hussein obama is going to have a press conference and another speech to
to the nation to be broadcasted by all the mainstream media outlets and the front
page news of all the major newspapers to explain his 17 minutes of confusion so
in about an hour, we can be clear what he meant to say during that 17 minutes :-)
LOL
I have not read the comment above, just want to vent my opinion on a few thing
Census - I was a crew leader, trained eneumerators, and then stayed on for the
final on the Census in 1990 - Took the test in Feb 2009 - not 2010 - 2009 and
have called monthly to see the status - I am on the list - what list? I was called in
April of 2009 to ask my availability to work - my respone immediately - never heard
back - called again this week and told them I would work outside of my zip code
as I did in 1990 - respons was they will be calling soon - they have been calling
soon as I have been told each month since April of 2009 - then on the radio they
are saying they are still hiring - what gives - no answers - just promises. Thank
you for the venting - would have thought if I was on the list or not I would know
something by now - really need a job and would be willing to work out of the
district - hmmm when does this all begin - or has it?
Fascism is here.....
Consent of the governed no longer applies; actual control of the country has
passed to a small, privileged group who rule for their own benefit.
It's not want you want....it's what these dictators want to shove down your throat.
"Mr.President, you have often expressed admiration for Jack Kennedy. Are you,
like President Kennedy, injecting speed to keep up with your insane schedule?"
Now everybody go search engining for Doctor Feelgood ,JFK, Methamphetamine
What you are witnessing is a true BS artist in full frontal view. This guy is too
smooth for his own good....and everyone sees through it....except those to whom
the wealth will be redistributed to.
From the tone of most of these posts, I anticipate that St. Elizabeth's has given
most of the residents a week-end pass for the Holiday.
I was born a free man and I'll be damned if I'm going to die a serf to a Marxist
Ruling elite. Socialism is the sins of envy and coveteousness. It's thievery. Time
to gut DC of the power it has for it has garnered too much. When the people fear
the government you have tyranny. When the government fears the people you
have liberty - Thomas Jefferson. TJ also said that you need to from time to time
refresh the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants. The time is coming
to refresh that tree.
Obama excels at dsancing around difficult questions. He's a proi. It's what
Communitry Organizers do!
When you ask a simple question, and get back a dissertation, we have a term for
that: humbug. There is an unkinder word for it, but the rules of the commentaries
forbid it. Lets' say that the POTUS doth protest too much, or, he is a master of
humbuggery.
Like when he was asked about his long-term political association with terrorist
Bill Ayers. Obama responded by saying that he was only six years old when Ayers
was bombing the US.
Obama's answer had nothing to do with the question, which is his modus
operandi.
with all the respect you are due mr obama. you need to learn how to communicate
communicate with others. i remember my pops put it so eloquently when he
said, "hey boy, shut the f^%# up and listen instead of talking a lot and not saying
s#!t."
Has the One ever heard that "Brevity is the soul of wit?" Or there was a malfunction
malfunction in his "answer-o-meter" with which he's been scarily programmed.
They all rambled on for long periods, and never really said anything.
Heck, come to think of it Al Gore does it too. And Clinton, and Pelosi, Reid, etc...
etc...
What a poor excuse for a president. Harvard must be more like grade school than
the university it use to be. Bring back George Bush or even Jimmy Carter would
be an improvement.
He must be fought every inch of the way or he will DESTROY this country.
Here is the short answer President Obama - first of all we are going to make sure
we win in November and then we will vote h-no on every appropriation bill related
to this boondoggle. Then in 2012 we will make sure you have no veto power by
sending you back to community organize what is left of ACORN. And finally we will
repeal your mess. This is what happens when you ignore what the people don't
want and carefully cut out any possibility of bi-partisanship. You can force it
through but you are not a dictator and will be unable to fund it or get any support
from the OTHER half of the country - that DOES exist.
obama is an idiot. This is proven every time he tries to use his peanut brain. The
only time he is well spoken and does not sound like the village moron is when it
is scripted and on a teleprompter.
Now the whole country has the same out of control nagging wife. Most of the guys
have been there. You know how in that movie they all went to the window and
yelled "I'm sick and tired and I'm not going to take anymore" or something?? Well,
that don't work with an Ultra Nag. We all have to go to the window and yell "Just
SHUT UP. Whatever you say I did whatever you want to buy whatever you want to
tax me.... I DON'T CARE.... JUST SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP TAX ME F-ING
KILL ME JUST SHUT UP!!!!!
Unfortunately he won't EVER shut up but it might make us feel better.
I wish President Obama would be more accurate in his accounting and stop
throwing around the "50 million" number for political purposes.
Even using his number, as of the time before the signing of his legislation, 85%
of Americans had health insurance coverage.
*4.3 million are eligible to be on existing government programs and have not
signed up.
*10.6 million are the remaining uninsured that fit into none of the above
categories.
Obama can talk for hours, and say nothing. And Liberals will scream, and fasint
over it. He always did this on the campaign trail. That is why they say he is well
spoken.
Bush would say what he meant, short and to the point. They called him stupid.
go figure.
In defense of the U.S. Constitution, our liberties, and our freedoms, I would
support the overthrow of this radical even if that takes a civil war or a coup. DC is
corrupt. If America is lucky, Obama won't survive his full term.
Can someone please send Obama (and all the Democrats who've supported this
this fetid piece of legislation) the memo that the 50 million uninsured Americans
number is WRONG, as per the Census Bureau. This has been common
knowledge for so long that I'm beginning to suspect we are deliberately being
mislead.
And the Democrats also need to stop including illegal aliens as Americans, even
though they will be covered at taxpayers' expense.
Mr. President -- it's just this simple: "Thou Shalt not covet thy neighbors' goods."
I wish I could have seen this. Was he looking down at notes the whole time? It
sounds like it was incoherent rambling that the Obamabots seem to think is the
work of a great mind. He is just a worthless ex pothead who was in the right place
at the right time. This so called response was nothing other than a collection of
varied ideas that Axelrod wrote down for him on 3 by 5 cards. "Here Mr President,
memorize these, they may come in handy someday. And yes, your new suit looks
great and yes your hook shot today looked much more polished. Also
sir,remember please do some reading tonight if you could even if it's just the
notes I wrote down on these 3 by 5 cards.."
Ditch the new taxes! And OhBummer believes in statism -- not liberalism. Famous
Famous brands of statism are Nazism, socialism, fascism, communism,
interventionism, progressivism, and welfare statism --- these last three are each
a mix of fascism and socialism.
The Rights of Man are the gift of nature or of nature's god, and they belong to all
human beings, everywhere. Does any Democrat subscribe to all of the above,
without qualifications or weasel words?
Man, this whole Obama experience is like getting lost is a wax museum with a
bunch of Chucky dolls. It's like I'm living in Obama's wet dream.
In 17 minutes if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with b*llsh*t.
The boy in the White House is so full of himself it is sickening.
I can’t wait until November to put a stop to his Socialist agenda.
More and more voters have quit drinking the kool aid and are now realizing what
they voted for is a big lie.
Shocking how ignorant some of you are. I'm neither Republican or Democrat, nor
am I a Tea Party member. But when I see you people defend one party over the
other, especially those defending this ridiculous excuse for a president, I'm
saddened. Each American household owes hundreds of thousands of dollars in
entitlement spending b/c of the incompetent and misguided policies of FDR and
LBJ, GW's adventure crusade through the middle east, and now those undeniably
asinine and ruinous policies of your new savior, and you think the government is
going to do a good job with health care? Unbelievable.
I'm from TX. We think people should work, and only those who work should be
given your "right" of health care. Clearly, this country has a division between this
culture- which existed in the beginning and continued on until FDR poisoned it
and then (our very own) LBJ killed it- and that of this libtards, typically up east or
on the left coast who live in some sort of alternate "Precious-environment"
mentality, where everybody deserves something for nothing, and it's okay to steal
from your grandchildren b/c your diabetes has flared up from too many big macs.
Look around? Which governments are working well in this country? CA? Ha!
NYC? Ha! Chicago. Oh, definitely working there... And how could we forget
Romney-care?..There's a really great ideal to shoot for. Get a friggin' clue, you
welfare addicts! When this thing falls down, your grandchildren will be looking for
rope. And before you play that card, no I'm not a racist just because I'm fiscally
responsible. Austin and Michigan are just the beginning. There is real anger in
this country, once you free yourself from the Beltway culture that enjoys this
newspaper.
Very disappointing that readers here are taking Ms. Kornblut to task for reporting
that the prez gave a long, rambling response to a simple question. Notice I didn't
say he ANSWERED the question, because he didn't. He RESPONDED to the
question in a completely meaningless way. Nothing complex or nuanced. Just
ignorant blather, which is all he's good for without a teleprompter. Maybe he
should have written a few notes to himself on the palm of his hand. Good for Ms.
Kornblut for noticing that the emperer has no clothes.
An answer that makes sense does not need to be short. But he can't make sense
of why the deficit is balooning under his leadership, as the Republicans could not
make sense of the problem when they were in control. Obfuscate
baby...obfuscate.
There's another side to this. Obama has debased the Presidency by acting as a
huckster and people need to stop deferring to the office. If Obama doesn't respect
it and he wants to act like a used car salesman then people should treat him the
same way.
I think he misspoke that we have 50mil including illegal uninsured but not without
health care
This guy really sin't as smart as his acolytes like to pretend. The fact that he can't
give a straight answer to ANY question shows that he can't craft a cogent
argument ot support any position which he espouses
But Urkel Mugabe seems to need a full legal pad to satisfy himself that he's
successfully bamboozled his audience. 'Course no one believes him either,
because just like Crooked Willy - you know they're lying 'cause their lips are
moving.
Recently a Democrat ask a Navy Admiral if the Island of Guam was going to "tip
over" from the extra weight of additional sailors. Seems to me that Democrats
fashioned a bill that no one can explain even the authors.
The lady asked a very simple question and President Obama's answer was
disrespectful and arrogant.
People are losing their houses in this country because they cannot pay their
mortgage because taxers on every level will not stop. He should of said "your
taxes are high and I think you benefit from this plan"". If he truly believed its was a
good plan then . I he can not say that it should not have become law just for a
narrow political gain.
SERIOUSLY - Those of you attempting to take Obama's side ignore the simple
truth.
A citizen asking their President if it's wise to add more taxes onto our strained
backs seems a reasonable question worthy of addressing.
However getting an answer that would give a reading of the dead sea scrolls a
run for their money is not an ANSWER - it's a distraction.
And as intended everyone is bored into submission silently wishing for "the
service" to adjourn.
The woman asked "Why the hell you are increasing my taxes???". If Obama was
going to tell the truth he would simply tell "Sorry but I need your money to bribe the
riff-raff to vote for me"
Do you really you expect him to say this? He just follows an old rule - "when you
want to hide something important never remain silent; quite the opposite - drown
the opponent with tons of senseless words"
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting
a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
president."
"The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a
mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not
blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is
less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their
president.”
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting
a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
president."
"The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a
mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not
blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is
less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their
president.”
Nobody can say less by talking more than this empty suit. He clearly doesn't (still)
know what's in the health care reform bill (bill is right, because we're the one
stuck with the bill). People are finally realizing that he is a disaster on a scale
larger than Carter ever was...
How about; Yes,we are being taxed a lot but it's necessary. Or, No, we're not being
being taxed enough, we all need to give more. A little honesty goes a long way.
get rid of enough dems in november to take away the great communicator's veto.
this man is an absolute disaster for this country as is the dems party and half of
thye repubs. misinformation? i wis that woman would have got up and walked out
at 15 minutes.
http://supreme.justia.com/us/268/5/case.html
Syllabus
2. Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously beyond the power of
Congress. P. 268 U. S. 18.
3. Incidental regulation of such practice by Congress through a taxing act, like the
Narcotic Law, cannot extend to matters plainly inappropriate and unnecessary to
reasonable enforcement of a revenue measure. P. 268 U. S. 18.
Thats exactly what he does. He filibusters and avoids the actual question. By the
time he is done everyone forgets the original question.
"Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only
advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health
insurance," he said."
*** But MOM.., I really, really want healthcare.., all the other kids on the block have
it.., pleeeeeasee ?!!
Posted by: CorAutMors | April 3, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse
"I don't care. I'm going to get even with you achievers, and if possible, take the
whole damned country under. Go to hell."
http://johngalt.podomatic.com/
In the golden age of easy answers and attention deficit disorder I suppose 17
minutes is considered a long time. All some people really want from the
President is a small sound bite that can be easily taken out of context and
spewed out on Fox.
This is an absolutely atrocious column and indicative of all that is wrong with the
media today, the Washington Post especially. If Obama gave a long, nuanced
answer to an important policy question, the responsible thing for a journalist to do
would be to explain what exactly he said, maybe put it more succinctly and fact-
check his claims. You know: BE A JOURNALIST.
I just don't understand why I'm supposed to care that Anne Kornblut was bored by
a long answer to a complex question. Reporters trying to impress each other with
how blase they are is so 2000.
Idiot Obama. The answer is drill, baby, drill. I don't want an answer that is so long
that I will have to refill my tub of Mountain Dew and Cheetos half-way through.
The shoe advertising blog spam, below, appears to be part of a paid extortion
campaign against The Washington Post. Co. intended to pollute blog discourse
and drive the publication to strictly moderate all internet blogs, facilitating what I
believe is a covert campaign of U.S. government internet censorship -- apparently
conducted by operatives working out of Homeland Security- administered
regional "fusion centers" throughout the U.S.
http://nowpublic.com/world/how-u-s-spy-ops-censor-web-political-speech
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-censors-net-while-obama-lectures-china-net-
censorship
My many articles on this subject have not altered this pattern of apparent
government censorship, which, I believe, is comparable to the regimen imposed
by Communist China on its citizens.
When will Obama hold a press conference with the National press corp. The last
one was in July 2009 and he put his foot in his mouth then when he criticized the
police officer from Cambridge.
When he is pushed off his talking points he looks foolish!
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I simply cannot believe how naive and gullable some of you supposedly "learned"
and "intelligent" people are. You have been repeatedly lied to so obviously and
blatantly by this politician and still you eagerly accept the ridiculous propaganda
he spews. Either you have your head in the sand, or a need to prove to yourself
that you are somehow better than everyone else and belong to the "intellectual
elite", or are actually Democrat party members trying to sway congressional
staffers by posting here. No matter which may be the case, you are clueless and
have allowed yourself to become an easy mark. I am both saddened and
dissappointed by your astounding level of ignorance.
I can't believe that there are STILL people defending this disaster of a president,
and resorting to comparisons with George Bush as evidence of Obama's
superior intellect.
The reporter got it right. Obama clearly doesn't understand his own program, and
trying to hide under a mountain of words is pretty thin.
I thought by now the purple Kool Aid would've run dry. Apparently not.
How looking-glass IS it? The President's talking to people as though they were
intelligent adults is viewed as "elitist"!
And the Beltway Media ISN'T elitist - even though THEY talk down to people and
condescend to their own readers.
Your opinion that people can't handle complex explanations is the REAL elitism.
You are assuming that people are STUPID.
-------------------------------------
Professor Prez is taking what he says on authority and spewing it out in the way it
was explained to him. The problem is that the authorities he relies upon are
those who have been hired by him to toe the Democratic line on health care. What
I find surprising is that you accept what he says without a hint of skepticism.
Most people suspect that he is either lying or being lied to about these things.
They don't believe him. Why do you? I mean really. Anyone who accepts the
numbers that Democrats are citing on these matters is either being mendacious,
disingenuous or hopelessly naive.
Assign a style columnist for a vapid article full of banalities and cutesy comments.
Assign a reporter to give us the facts.
Perhaps then the public will understand not only the complex problems and
solutions this man is dealing with but also that we have someone of substance
and
intellect leading the nation at last.
Obama demonstrated far more patience than me. I would have asked Doris to
first define “under-taxed” and “fairly taxed“. Which is why I am unlikely to ever hold
elected office.
But Doris’ question shows the stress now on people who depend (or had
depended, prior to lay off) upon a weekly paycheck and who have seen
diminished ability to keep the wolf at bay. They look for a tangible, immediate
solution to their money problems (and me too) and the thought of lowering taxes
seems to work, even it means subsequent loss of public services, being a mere
abstraction for those who want their ledger to now be on the plus side and not the
minus side at the end of the month.
And that is why political leadership is needed to help get us thru these bad times,
which I believe Obama is trying to provide (despite hyper-explication) rather than
exploitation of fear. EOM.
Have you noticed that in interviews and statements that the Democrats say 30
million and 50 million people now have health care ...they don't even know what
they have done.
Hey theduke89 you are right he doesn't understand us because he isn't one of
us.No wonder Washington and the nation is so screwed up we have only sit
around and listened to his speeches and lies it seems like forever.He couldn't be
a journalist nor a farmer he has no clue about real life.
Posted by: anvil2010 | April 2, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse
and socialism
is the fact
The 7.5 min was a typo. Even I could actually stay awake all through an Econ
lecture 50 minutes long and full of exactly the kind of presentation the Professor
Prez made.
It being Econ, though, i could rarely get it to stand up and compute the way
Calculus could.
By the way, I could even follow a Calc professor whose thick Indian accent made
it necessary to pay close attention to every mark he made on the chalk board. His
notation was exceptionally crisp.
"Note that Democrats can follow a 7.5 minute explanation of a complex subject
like taxation without becoming bored or losing focus."
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But apparently they can't read a report closely enough to know that the explanation
was 17 plus minutes.
see-
the day
Ceflynline said:
"Note that Democrats can follow a 7.5 minute explanation of a complex subject
like taxation without becoming bored or losing focus.
Then again, every Engineer had to sit through nearly hour long explanations of
everything from applications of the cross product in Engineering statics to Fourier
Transforms, to Maxwell's Equations".
Yes, Yes, but the Mathematics are real and provable to young engineers (I also
had to sit through it and actually enjoyed it) but
an academic treatise of the uncertainties of what taxes do and might do...that is
something else! Taxes and their implications and theoretical applications are
non-scientific and Obama could have well put those people to sleep...
obama--malevolent socialism
Look at the stupid look on Barry the incompetent boob Obama's face. The guy
looks like an imbecile. Barry's eyes are glazed over and unfocused, like he is
stoned.
The law will not pass muster even at the Federal District Judge level. Sooner or
later the Judges will have to dismiss their previous attorney relations with
Democratic Party support groups and judge as intelligently and capably as they
can. This law is an abomination, not in intent of having a better health system that
we all want, but in the ways of doing so.
1-20-2013
Note that Democrats can follow a 7.5 minute explanation of a complex subject like
like taxation without becoming bored or losing focus.
Then again, every Engineer had to sit through nearly hour long explanations of
everything from applications of the cross product in Engineering statics to Fourier
Transforms, to Maxwell's Equations.
(Maxwell's equations, though, can be easily, and fully, explained in about 100
pages of a text book roughly the size of Analog magazine.)
The people are not "progressive," which connotes statist leftism. But they want
progress. They want creativity and they want fiscal responsibility. Obama's long
answer was a diversion. The fact is that the country does not want to pay for what
this program will cost because they know it will probably cost three to ten times
what the Democrats are telling them it will cost.
Treetopflyer:
Ifyou quote the Preamble you must understand the English language used even
then. And you must also read the 10th Amendment in its totality regarding limits
on the Executive Branch.
"Promote the General Welfare" in the preamble uses the verb promote..that
means cajole, make possible, assist with, etc...it does not mean dictate private
shopping and taxing, nor establishing and running systems across the States!
And the word "general does not mean individual application.
" "The best jobs in us will be bartenders, waitresses and hairdressers, relying on
income that the govt can't track. Onward to a more perfect union !!" I just stopped
tipping these people as of right now. Bunch of tax cheats. Posted by: Gover"
"
I loved every minute of that North Carolina moment. Obama is losing it! He's
losing it! Did you see the eyes of the people in the audience? They were glazing
over. Tonight, they're telling their friends and family that the President of the
United States is a joke. Poor man! He thinks his Ivy League degree is going to
impress "the hicks in North Carolina." Well, come November, suh, we hicks are
going to throw you out onto Pennsylvania and you can hitch a ride back to
Chicago for all we care, suh!!
"
I loved every minute of that North Carolina moment. Obama is losing it! He's
losing it! Did you see the eyes of the people in the audience? They were glazing
over. Tonight, they're telling their friends and family that the President of the
United States is a joke. Poor man! He thinks his Ivy League degree is going to
impress "the hicks in North Carolina." Well, come November, suh, we hicks are
going to throw you out onto Pennsylvania and you can hitch a ride back to
Chicago for all we care, suh!!
By the way, georges2, I have a nice bridge for sale in New York. Between
Manhattan and Brooklyn. Hardly ever used. Make me an offer.
charlesbakerharris:
"@TomHRyan - if "better than Bush" is your standard for Obama, it's no wonder
you're happy with him. Maybe you should reconsider where you're setting the bar."
I'm fine with the bar where it is, actually. Until Obama starts a war with a country
that wasn't threatening us, until his vice president outs a CIA agent AND shoots
someone in the face, until the attorney general starts hiring from Pat Robertson
U., I'll take my chances with a guy with a measurable IQ who didn't ride into office
on the coattails of his father's name and proceeds to turn our country the
laughingstock of the world.
Meanwhile, Anne Kornblut really needs to remember that even in the age of blogs
and Twitter there really is such a thing as an unexpressed thought...try having one
sometime...
".you were one of the first people to chant how violent the republicans are, or how
the little grannies at the tea party were domestic terrorists."
But how many times was the President 'clear'? As in "Let me be clear....".
"
thrh:
Talk about violent! You wishing death upon someone who simply disagrees with
your opinion? Let me guess...you were one of the first people to chant how violent
the republicans are, or how the little grannies at the tea party were domestic
terrorists. Yet, you are fine wishing someone dead who posted an opinion on a
WaPo blog. Time to yank out a mirror and find out why you are so mean and
violent.
No mirror needed, schrute! It's because of people like you! And I didn't wish death
upon your friend; I merely observed that she was too dumb to live, and would
probably step out in front of a bus in the next few days. I don't wish for it; I just
cheerfully predict it. Got the difference.
As for you....
I loved every minute of that North Carolina moment. Obama is losing it! He's
losing it! Did you see the eyes of the people in the audience? They were glazing
over. Tonight, they're telling their friends and family that the President of the
United States is a joke. Poor man! He thinks his Ivy League degree is going to
impress "the hicks in North Carolina." Well, come November, suh, we hicks are
going to throw you out onto Pennsylvania and you can hitch a ride back to
Chicago for all we care, suh!!
Seems those in Wingnuttia have a hard time processing that someone can
intelligently answer someone's question on both the health care bill as well as
taxes.
Ms. Kornblut seems to find anything longer then a cound bite to be a bit much for
her to handle.
Just like the wingnuts. they cannot deal with anything more complicated than
slogans and sound bites.
so, when you have a president with a brain then the msm as well as wingnuts
find their brains exploding.
"
It's true that public opinion is divided but I wish WaPo would start clarifying that
the new law has opponents on the right AND the left. Some say it goes to far, and
other say it doesn't go far enough. The fact that it's not single payer probably
accounts for half of those that oppose the bill. As Obama said, it's a centrist plan.
thrh:
Talk about violent! You wishing death upon someone who simply disagrees with
your opinion? Let me guess...you were one of the first people to chant how violent
the republicans are, or how the little grannies at the tea party were domestic
terrorists. Yet, you are fine wishing someone dead who posted an opinion on a
WaPo blog. Time to yank out a mirror and find out why you are so mean and
violent.
"
He's a Marxist community organizer, who somehow got elected by dopey white
guilt suckers. Other than that, what did you think of the play Mrs. Lincoln?
"
He's a Marxist community organizer, who somehow got elected by dopey white
guilt suckers. Other than that, what did you think of the play Mrs. Lincoln?
I see Scrivener finally went completely around the bend, with Obama sending
signals to his brain through cellphone towers and all. A fitting end to a disgraceful
career!
He's a Marxist community organizer, who somehow got elected by dopey white
guilt suckers. Other than that, what did you think of the play Mrs. Lincoln?
Funny, how the stupid spend so much time defending stupidity. You can tell them
by their inability to spell. Or think.
"
I think his long windy answers are his way of letting us all know how smart and
intelligent he is. I think he is a blowhard idiot and I resent very strongly his
arrogance in telling me how Im gonna have to live. Ain't gonna happen!
You're too dumb to stay alive until November. I give you about two weeks until you
walk out in front of a bus. Just because you're ignorant doesn't make you
right, "patzy." [Most people would spell it "Patsy," because that's what you are, you
stupid nit!]
The audience for this carefully staged PhotoOp was supposed to be filled only
with preselected Democrats !!!
Although judging by his response with a barnload of B.S., I believe YOU did hit a
nerve !!!
"However, there are those that would argue that Obama's speaking ability is just
the smoke and mirrors that cover the real purpose of his agenda. To
fundamentally transform America from the capitalism that has made her great to
socialism that has destroyed Europe for generations. Americans are too
accustomed to freedom to sit by and allow Obama's prgressive ideals to take
hold and grow. Will not happen.
Obama's ideology and his Progressive Democrat's agenda has been defeated by
the Founders of these United States of America.
Oh, yeah? Hadn't noticed Tom Jefferson or John Adams around lately. Maybe
because they're almost as dead as the Republican party.
I think his long windy answers are his way of letting us all know how smart and
intelligent he is. I think he is a blowhard idiot and I resent very strongly his
arrogance in telling me how Im gonna have to live. Ain't gonna happen!
"over-taxed" whatever!!! most people who are complaining about taxes don't even
pay that much! So stop crying about being over-taxed. You got your trillion dollar
taxcut on credit from china!! No more tax cuts!!! It's killing this country!!
"Yeah. It would seem the WaPo could hire literate reporters. Instead they get Anne
Kornblut. Whose cousin is she? Or who is she sleeping with?
I've seen her on MSNBC, all cute and adolescent and giggly. If only she were able
to comprehend adult discourse, or write a decent sentence, then I might
understand how she managed to graduate from college.
But I'll never understand how she got a job with the WaPo.
To get rich in politics you have to be a crook. To get rich in the newspaper
business you have to expose the crooks. Business should be real good with all
the crooks in Washington. You should be set for at least another generation or
two.
Obama's scam is long on speaking flowery words that please the ear of the
listener. This is the core of the Obama 'charm.' Obama's charm is, basically, all
there is to the Obama reality.
However, there are those that would argue that Obama's speaking ability is just
the smoke and mirrors that cover the real purpose of his agenda. To
fundamentally transform America from the capitalism that has made her great to
socialism that has destroyed Europe for generations. Americans are too
accustomed to freedom to sit by and allow Obama's prgressive ideals to take
hold and grow. Will not happen.
Obama's ideology and his Progressive Democrat's agenda has been defeated by
the Founders of these United States of America.
"
Classic sign of over-medication from anxiolytics, like when he talked about the
massive earthquake in Hawaii or being a devout Muslim. Must have access to
Biden's stash.
Sorry you overdosed, Horace. I sincerely hope none of my tax dollars went to save
your life.
It's getting to be time to level another corporation. They are like people with no
souls to damn, which is just like your average politician. Family business beats
the pants off of monkey business. Watch the monkeys scramble when this goes
down.
Just a reminder
"Yeah. It would seem the WaPo could hire literate reporters. Instead they get Anne
Kornblut. Whose cousin is she? Or who is she sleeping with?
If she'd do Ben Bradlee, maybe they'd give her the Religion column....
"
Did he invent any new words? Did one sentence actually flow into the next with
grammar, and correct pronunciation? Seems like that would set him apart from,
say, his predecessor.... BTW, Anne, did you have someplace else to be, given that
your job is covering the president. Because if you don't want the job any more, I
know some reporters who are out of work.
Yeah. It would seem the WaPo could hire literate reporters. Instead they get Anne
Kornblut. Whose cousin is she? Or who is she sleeping with?
Someone define what overtaxed is? Perhaps we should run this country like those
those guys on wall st - risking everything for maximum profit. Why not move in
opposite direction of health care, and start abolishing other things we get taxed
for like schools, roads, fire and police protection. Damn right we get taxed too
much, because Bush gave breaks to wealthiest 1 percent, so now EVERYONE is
suffering for it (oh, except for that 1%)
"@TomHRyan - if "better than Bush" is your standard for Obama, it's no wonder
you're happy with him. Maybe you should reconsider where you're setting the bar.
Wow, the Obama Kool-Aid is sure flowing on the comments today. You people are
are drunk with delusion to say the very least. I love it. Don't ever change. Cheers --
Drink up-!!
"Pay tax to pay Chinese debt, so we are being taxed by China. SCREW that.
How did you THINK Bush financed two wars while cutting taxes? The piper must
be paid!
Any large corporation can be totally wrecked in months. Even trade, we send GM to
to China and they are paid in full and get free fools in on the bargain. We can
import cheap Chevrolets and have a more affordable rat race.
If the Post's columnists are too stupid to understand what the President is saying,
they are only emulating their editors.
Don't fly perfectly good aircraft into IRS buildings. Send IRS people to China to
work off debt as public servants for their masters. I have a career of evil.
He's less than truthful with the teleprompter, useless without it.
Pay tax to pay Chinese debt, so we are being taxed by China. SCREW that.
@TomHRyan - if "better than Bush" is your standard for Obama, it's no wonder
you're happy with him. Maybe you should reconsider where you're setting the bar.
Start selling all the royals hardware for scrap iron and sharpen your smiles. Public
Public servants turning the public into servants. Nothing new, just different
wording and names to drop.
Obama says his poll numbers are sinking like the Titanic because he doesn't talk
enough.
Did he invent any new words? Did one sentence actually flow into the next with
grammar, and correct pronunciation? Seems like that would set him apart from,
say, his predecessor.... BTW, Anne, did you have someplace else to be, given that
your job is covering the president. Because if you don't want the job any more, I
know some reporters who are out of work.
Posted by: TomHRyan | April 2, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse
What a wonderful post. Its not often that the Pontificator in Chief is called out by
WaPo. Thank you, Ms. Kornblut
The healthcare bill just enacted will never work. Rates will move higher and the
very insurance companies that have been targets of rhetoric will laugh all the way
to the bank as their stocks have rallied as the bill's prospects improved.
15 minutes and 2,000 words of the answer was, ah um, ah-aha ah ah um, let me
be clear um.
Isn't it just awful that the President didn't answer with a cutsy sound bite, but
actually answered the question in depth.
At least he showed up and took unscripted questions. Sounds like his answer
wasn't very slick. Almost like he had not rehearsed it.
President Bush never took questions like this. The reason is, he might have
looked silly like Obama did today.
D- for the long answer, and A for showing up to take real questions.
I watched the whole thing. I didn't intend to, I was shutting off the TV to leave the
house but was so good I was transfixed. It a 17 minute tour-de-force, brilliant!
If you imagine a doddering John McBush or the old idiot W. himself, trying to
speak extemporaneously on such a complex subject for more than two minutes,
it numbs the mind.
Obama really is the smartest guy in the room. Very encouraging to see him in the
top job.
Classic sign of over-medication from anxiolytics, like when he talked about the
massive earthquake in Hawaii or being a devout Muslim. Must have access to
Biden's stash.
All these redorkacans on these comment boards are very un....educated and
seem to spew Fox Dribble.
DemocRAT ?
RepubliCAN !!!
You decide....................
Your government is playing you like pawns! Get the hell out of my way!
"Doris the over-taxed" will end up a hero on Fox News for a few weeks.
Until it turns out her name is Linda and she doesn't pay taxes.
"Most of these people [in the Administration] have never had a real job in their
lives. They don't understand a thing about business, and that includes the
President," says a senior lobbyist for one of the companies that announced the
charge. "My CEO sat with the President over lunch with two other CEOs, and each
of them tried to explain to the President what this bill would do to our companies
and the economy in general. First the President didn't understand what they were
talking about. Then he basically told my boss he was lying. Frankly my boss was
embarrassed for him; he clearly had not been briefed and didn't know what was
in the bill."
Soooo ... how does the lady expect to pay off Reagan/Bush Sr and cheney/bush
$10+ TRILLION DOLLAR debt? Oh of course, cut the teabaggers Medicare and
Social Security benefits.
OR, they could have put it in reverse... and then like the cowboy song you play
backwards.. you get your job back.. your wife back.. the dog back..
in OUR case, we would get our SANITY back! (and get back our TRILLIONS OF
DOLLARS THAT OBAMA HAS *SQUANDERED*!)
Sorry the President's comprehensive answer taxed your attention span, Anne.
Yeah, it does state that clearly. So clearly, in fact, that they put the words "promote
the general Welfare" in big letters in the preamble of the Constitution so you'd
make sure not to miss them. That is what this health care legislation does, it
promotes the general welfare. Oops, now the framers of the Constitution are
Socialists, too.
You can't pick and choose the parts of the Constitution you do and don't like, it's a
package deal. If you don't like part of it, there's an amendment process.
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That's not what the general welfare clause means. Don't accuse people of not
knowing what they're talking about when you don't know what you're talking about.
It's interesting how contemptuous the reporter is of a long answer. Details are for
losers. Well, hopefully she enjoyed writing the post, it's only a blog after all.
Initial disclaimer: I'm no fan of the President, didn't vote for him and wouldn't today.
With that said, I must nevertheless question the purpose to be served by this so-
called "news".
Let's see, when a President or politician, regadless of their political persuasion,
gives canned 30 second non-answers to questions, they are criticized for their
brevity and lack of depth. Of course, most politicians are groomed to say not a
word more than absolutely necessary [a lesson Joe Biden should take to heart].
Yet when Obama actually takes the time to attempt to answer a question in depth,
he is then criticized for his verbosity?
Leftists somehow believe they're not getting screwed by this guy. Wake up
suckers..
I just watched most of the video at c-span.org and the entirety of the answer in
question and I can say without a doubt that Kornblut's analysis is way way off. It's
very puzzling.
From what I saw, it was long but he answered the question just fine and the
crowd's reaction was mostly very attentive and generous. But watch the video and
decide for yourself.
mister barack 'frequent flyer' obama today goes to south caroline on yet ANOTHER
ANOTHER BOONDOGGLE on taxpayers money... this time spending ANOTHER
MILLION DOLLARS PLUS for air force 1 and 500 secret service to cater to his
scrawny butt. and in his pitch to SELL HIS CRAP BILL, he babbles on ONE
ANSWER for 17 minutes and 12 seconds... and my guess is, he didn't say sht in
that entire time.
"i'm all about change... blah blah blah.. blah blah blah...
*sigh*
:|
What unconstitutional bill? Oh yeah the HC bill that the republicans refused to
help work on.
Ever heard of the commerce clause?
This article by Anne E. Kornblut is bunk. I was curious after reading it and went to
listen to the entire speech and Q&A session.
Yes, it was a long answer. So were the President's answers to other questions in
the same session. It was a comprehensive answer. It was neither meandering
nor repetitive, a few "firsts" and "seconds" aside. The only thing "wrong" with it
was his apologies for answering at length; most likely in response to staff
flagging him to cut to a conclusion.
Frankly, it's not only refreshing but a great relief to have a President in charge who
actually understands the full scope of his Administration's policies sufficient to
explain them, extemporaneously, in detail; instead of a "Decider" who only
decided choosing from a menu prepared by others and who, for the first half of
his administration, regularly botched the delivery of his canned one-liners.
Only the media and his own campaign managers have an interest in pushing
back, in getting President Obama to speak in nice quotable phrases and sound
bytes. The nation's voters, agree or disagree with his policies, are only
advantaged by hearing this or any President speak at length.
Let’s see 17 minutes to counter an entire Generation’s worth of "You are over
taxed", teachings doesn’t seem like a lot. Then again it is three times the amount
of time the average right wingers spends understanding the United States of
America’s Government and its Constitution.
The President uses long winded filibusters to avoid answering any direct
questions. He is a fraud.
The oath of office of the President of the United States is an oath or affirmation
required by the United States Constitution before the President begins the
execution of the office. The wording is specified in Article Two, Section One,
Clause Eight:
“ I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President
of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend
the Constitution of the United States.
He has violated that oath by signing an unconstitutional bill conceived in
corruption and dedicated to the proposition that forcing all Americans to buy
something is other than a dictatorship.
The oath of office of the President of the United States is an oath or affirmation
required by the United States Constitution before the President begins the
execution of the office. The wording is specified in Article Two, Section One,
Clause Eight:
“ I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President
of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend
the Constitution of the United States.
He has violated that oath by signing an unconstitutional bill conceived in
corruption and dedicated to the proposition that forcing all Americans to buy
something is other than a dictatorship.
Angie, thank you very much for the link. Now that I have read the question and the
answer, I can now say that this report is certifiable!
He more than answered the question...all of them. He provided detail and took
every aspect of the decisions that he has made right to the people listening. Every
thing he explained made perfect sense. You may not agree with him but he gave
his reasons for making the decisions that this administrations has made thus far.
Why won't the Post post the video of the question and answer?
This article is confusing to me- what is the point? Obama thoroughly answered
the question? Perfect, that's what I'd like a president to do. Too much
information? How is a thorough explanation a terrible thing? Is the author
implying that politically it may have been a bad move- well, I guess I'm glad he
was focused on answering the question rather than worrying so much about
politics.
MALBENNET,
Jackass.
Think about this. The federal government is forcing ("mandating") that all citizens
buy a product (health insurance) from private companies (health insurance
companies). FORCING you to spend your money on health insurance or FINING
you if you say no. That has never happened before in this country and it is
unconstitutional. If it stands, then the federal government could force us all to buy
a Ford automobile or any product. Think about that.
Posted by: retabroad | April 2, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse
The trouble with telling lies is that you have to keep telling more to cover up the
first lie. Obuma is the lier in chief. One writer suggested respecting the office of
President. I wonder how much respect the writer showed for George Bush. The
response is sure to be "he did not deserve my respect." Well too bad, neither
does Obuma. Our President is a wonderful speaker with a teleprompter in front of
him, but in the real world he is a bumbler. Just listen to him respond during
interviews. His speech pattern is filled with ums and ahs. The real problem for
Obuma is that the american public is on to him and his health care. They do not
want it. One time it was 30 million uninsured. Now it is 56 million. The poor guy
lets his lies get worse and worse.
The damage that Obuma and the Dems do will surpass anything this country has
ever seen.
Today Obuma said that protestors should tone down a little bit. Seems like he
cant
stand the heat. He better bring in some more of his Chicago or SEIU buddies to
make sure no one speaks out against him. Too bad, suck it up Dems.
The trouble with telling lies is that you have to keep telling more to cover up the
first lie. Obuma is the lier in chief. One writer suggested respecting the office of
President. I wonder how much respect the writer showed for George Bush. The
response is sure to be "he did not deserve my respect." Well too bad, neither
does Obuma. Our President is a wonderful speaker with a teleprompter in front of
him, but in the real world he is a bumbler. Just listen to him respond during
interviews. His speech pattern is filled with ums and ahs. The real problem for
Obuma is that the american public is on to him and his health care. They do not
want it. One time it was 30 million uninsured. Now it is 56 million. The poor guy
lets his lies get worse and worse.
The damage that Obuma and the Dems do will surpass anything this country has
ever seen.
Today Obuma said that protestors should tone down a little bit. Seems like he
cant
stand the heat. He better bring in some more of his Chicago or SEIU buddies to
make sure no one speaks out against him. Too bad, suck it up Dems.
GET OUT OF MY LIFE and stop trying to "SAVE ME" from the dangers of real life.
Do your job and protect the country. Nothing else. It is stated pretty clearly your
role as a government in the few pages that it takes to print the Constitution out.
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Yeah, it does state that clearly. So clearly, in fact, that they put the words "promote
the general Welfare" in big letters in the preamble of the Constitution so you'd
make sure not to miss them. That is what this health care legislation does, it
promotes the general welfare. Oops, now the framers of the Constitution are
Socialists, too.
You can't pick and choose the parts of the Constitution you do and don't like, it's a
package deal. If you don't like part of it, there's an amendment process.
Republicans can't and don't govern well so they run on people's fears and
emotions instead of logic and understanding of the issues.
I know it's hard to think past a party's mantra, but taxes are a necessity for society
to operate people. I guess we think we can do all we do for free. That's hardly the
case. As we grow into a more coplicated society, more issuesm services,
planning, development etc... is required. This 2010, not 1950.
America has many problems, really over taxation isn't one of them. Of course, we
would like to pay less, but the truth is if you want things operating well, taxes pay
for them.
A society is representative of what it wants and is willing to pay for. America is so
busy building parties and running for things, it's forgetting to build anything and
establish the country in the modern day. Building costs lower once a systems is
running well and operating with efficiency. We learn this stuff in college.
Fidel Castro was reported this past week to have praised Obama for his over hall
of the medical system, possibly for the jack-booted methods used to get is
passed as much as for its steps toward government control and universal
coverage. Now the famous Obamatory (Obama oratory) is evolving to resemble
Castro's famous marathon verbal expositions. Can we look for another "kudos"
from Fidel for Obama's exposition on taxes?
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshít.
I'd be interested to hear the answer to whether billionaire hedge fund managers
who pay long-term capital gains rates on their obscene ordinary income
are "overtaxed."
Are any of you idiots even able to put together two cells in your brain to think? This
is first off unconstitutional and second it's going to get shot down. Until people
start paying their own way in this country we will always be over taxed and under
the thumb of the government. The Congress of this country thinks it can regulate
every freaking item in our lives and they are going to find out quick that those
times are over. GET OUT OF MY LIFE and stop trying to "SAVE ME" from the
dangers of real life. Do your job and protect the country. Nothing else. It is stated
pretty clearly your role as a government in the few pages that it takes to print the
Constitution out. That is all you get. You do not get to make laws and regulate
every breath I take because you get a majority vote in the Congress. This is not a
democracy, it's a Rebublic. Do some damn research and stop looking for a free
ride or "fairness" in life. You are given your rights by god not the damn
Government.
"verbose response"?
"loquacious"?
It's about time that the Washington Post is starting to question President Curious
George. He had to stammer on for 17 minutes because he didn't answer the f'ing
question.
If he would of answered the question like he wanted to, "I am overtaxing
Americans because I want all Americans dependent on me and the government,
but mostly me."
This fraud likes to ramble on to make him sound more intelligent, but the guy is a
radical extremist farce.
The rest of you Obamazombies can keep drinking the Kool-Aid, you are all sheep
being led to the slaughter.
My work internet access won't allow me to watch streaming video. Did he ever
come out and say if it was a wise decision?
Sometimes important things are boring and take a while to describe. Thank
goodness we have a president who's capable of thinking about something for
more than fifteen seconds at a time.
What an idiot. That's what happens when you have to lie and coverup the facts.
The lady was absolutely right and Barry knew it.
Ms. Kornblut shows great disrespect for both the office of President and for our
current president, Barack Obama. Your job, Ms. Kornblut, is to report the news; it
is not to tell us what you think of what the President is saying.
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I can't believe you just wrote this. The job of the press is to serve as a check on
the government. Contrary to what you have seen in the last two years, the job of
the press is not to kiss the presidential behind.
And I'll bet you all the money in the world that you had no interest in respecting
the "office of the President" two years ago.
Grow up. Also, you don't capitalize "president" when used on its own.
This article is complete reporter BS. I don't need some reporter telling me
something was "boring." How does Kornblut know the audience member yawned
because of Obama? Maybe he yawned because he was up too late the night
before watching Seinfeld reruns. If Obama was the speaker, I doubt if it
was "boring" no matter how long he spoke. Tell us what he said, Ms. Reporter. I
don't care about your completely subjective impression of how he said it.
This article is why I have very little respect for The Washington Post, and the news
media as a whole.
Hey, Anne E. Kornblut: STOP CONFLATING OP-ED AND THE NEWS. Your whole
article is "Gosh, Obama said words for a while." How about summarizing what he
said, instead of counting the words? Worst. Reporting. Ever.
And these comments just make me sad about the future of the human race.
When someone gives thoughtful answers to questions, they get mocked? Really,
people? Do you have the attention span of goldfish? Have you ever read books or
wrote essays or done anything that requires deep thought? This is the D students
making fun of the A student. American anti-intellectualism needs to stop,
because it's embarrassing and leads nowhere.
I used to think there were valid concerns about health care from a conservative
perspective. But then the Tea Party happened - a group of furious, primitive,
misinformed, obnoxious, lower-upper-middle-class white people spitting random
invective - Socialist, Communist, Fascist. Can you even accurately define those
words? I don't think you can, because if you could, you know that none of them
apply to Obama or his health care reform.
I mean...you Tea Partiers know that you're wasting your lives, right? That you're
getting foaming-at-the-mouth angry about a CENTRIST BILL? Life is so precious
and short. And you're going to spend it THIS foolishly? I'm going to stop writing
now because you're making me super depressed.
It is unfortunate that when the president or any other elected official actually
answers a question substantively it is considered "bad". Most people don't really
want to hear a full and accurate answer to anything in politics now, they want a
sound bite. I think it is the willful ignorance of alot of citizens that helped make our
congress a bought and paid for subsidiary of wall street and big business. It's
dam sad
Yes. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/04/02/1352473/full-text-of-president-
obamas.html
My takeaway from it is the answer is, "yes and it doesn't apply to you[her]."
Yes it's smart to raise taxes for this purpose because it's deemed important to
keep people healthy. Yes it's better to spend money now so over the long term
there is less money being spent in the health care system.
It probably doesn't apply to her because the tax increase is removing the
exemption on unearned income (capital gains and the like) on households with
an AGI of over $200K (or something like that - tax terminology isn't something I'm
versed in).
I wonder if the example of Warren Buffet was intentional or that was the
first "known extremely wealthy person" that first popped into Obama's head.
Ms. Kornblut shows great disrespect for both the office of President and for our
current president, Barack Obama. Your job, Ms. Kornblut, is to report the news; it
is not to tell us what you think of what the President is saying.
And you also insult American citizens by inferring that we are not capable of
listening to more than sounds bites and that we cannot understand an
explanation of issues involved in our tax system. Such arrogance on your part is
unwarranted and unneeded.
And BTW, I think that most of us, both inside and outside the Beltway, know what
FICA taxes are!
Just more poor reporting from The Washington Times -- oops, I mean The
Washington Post.
During Bush-Cheney's 8 Years, People making 200,000 Or More Per Year Got a
Big A!! Tax Break, No More, You got a Free Ride, while All Other Lesser Salaried
Groups in America, were Given No Tax Cuts At All.
Sounds to me like he gave the sort of answer that this country has been sorely
missing for a long time with the advent of the 10 second sound bite. People might
not like to hear a thorough cogent answer to a complicated issue but is this not
what we as a society so sorely need? In an age of increasing complexity we
should demand sound analysis from our elected leaders. What you don't like the
fact that the president soundly answers a tough question...then turn on Fox news
where Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck will scare you into some simple
understanding of the contemporary problems facing our nation. Despite the
desire by many on the left and right for quick answers to our daunting plethora of
problems this president is trying to alter the nature of our collective discourse for
the better of us all. We should applaud any politician willing to stake our micro-
sized attention span to these serious issues.
_________________
I thought Republicans & Tea Party Members Depended on the [Private Sector] Not
the Big Bad Mean Ole Federal Government For [Jobs]
It was the Private Sector, Wall Street, Mega Banks, AIG and the Mortgage Crisis,
that Bankrupted the Nation, So Go Depend On them.
Republicans Demand that Corporate America, Provide Your A!!es A Damn Living..
You Scorn [Socialism] but You Want Big Government to Create Jobs For You !!
Political Wire: A New Bloomberg Poll finds that more than 90% of Tea Party
backers say the United States "is verging more toward socialism than capitalism,
the federal government is trying to control too many aspects of private life and
more decisions should be made at the state level."
Big Note: At the same time, 70% of those who sympathize with the Tea
Party "want a federal government that fosters job creation."
Said pollster Ann Selzer: "The ideas that find nearly universal agreement among
Tea Party supporters are rather vague. You would think any idea that involves
more government action would be anathema, and that is just not the case."
Well, he coulda just delivered a Bushwack and simply said "...and THAT's what we
we did" while nodding his head vigorously. what the writer's notes show is that (1)
there are a lotta people to whom he could offer the moon and they'd give him a
blank look IF they looked him in the eye at all and still not shake is hand. just cuz.
in addition almost nobody reads nowadays, so almost all of their info comes
through TV, whidh means they will or may never fully understand the world around
them and will always be "managed" by the forces that dupe them and that many
of us resent.
Boycott FAUX news. Nationwide boycott fox news day is....everyday. Fast forward
through all the commercials of Fox programs and entirely boycott their inflamatory
right wing propaganda news programs.
Posted by: liveride | April 2, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse
Angie thinks that these two statements are conflicting...but they're not....and they
are both true.
Gov't cannot create private sector jobs; but what it can do is create an
environment that makes it possible for business to be able to create
jobs...through tax cuts. Tax cuts to individuals, to give them more disposable
income; tax cuts to business to free up more of their earnings to invest in capital
to expand their business...an expansion that would, obviously, require hiring of
more workers.
Class is dismissed.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/04/02/1352473/full-text-of-president-
obamas.html
justonevoice wrote>>>a short yes or no answer does not do it for me. The world is
is not that simple.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/04/02/1352473/full-text-of-president-
obamas.html
justonevoice wrote>>>a short yes or no answer does not do it for me. The world is
is not that simple.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/04/02/1352473/full-text-of-president-
obamas.html
This is what happens when a teleprompter isn't used to keep the rambler-in-chief
on topic.
The only way everyone would be covered for health care in this country is is we
had single payer health insurance like the rest of the civilized world.
The fact that it took Obama 17 minutes to NOT answer her question says it all. It's
hard to give a straight answer when you're screwing over the middle and working
classes in favor of your rich insurance company friends.
Since you seem to have access to the entire transcript vs. this empty summation,
why don't you share it with the rest of us? Or do things get too confusing for you
once you go beyond the, "this good, that bad" pablum of conservative media?
Instead of saying, "gee, the presidents answer was sooo long and I got sooo
bored," maybe we should be asking ourselves whether its reasonable to expect a
genuine explanation and justification of government taxation to take less than 20
minutes. Its a complicated issue, that is poorly understood, and often
misrepresented.
slydell wrote>>>Everyone gets upset that our politicians aren't addressing the
important issues and this article is a perfect example why
He seems to think the sound of his own voice is a national treasure. I've got a
news falsh: It isn't, and the people expect answers- not some meandering trip
through leftyland- the majority of us are sans koolaide.
That crowd was very tough, many sat with blank faces for the entire event, even
when he mentioned their own company and the help that it got.
In the end he seemed to be trying to hard to convince the doubters, which was a
lost cause, you could see people keeping their hand at there sides when he put
his hand out to shake it.
This article is perhaps one of the most succinct in its sensational reporting, lack
of information, and continued disservice to the American Public. While Anne the
newspaper reporter might not enjoy the tedious task of summarizing what the
President says to keep the public informed, the last thing people need is her
personal commentary on a boring speech. It IS boring, but the topic needs to be
addressed. Everyone gets upset that our politicians aren't addressing the
important issues and this article is a perfect example why. Reporters want fun
sensationlism or else they trash you. This is why I will never spend a dime on the
Washington Post -- for ever quality reporter the Post has, there are three "Anne
the reporter"s looking for an easy story to warp the public's mind.
I love it. A long, meandering, 583-word article to say the president's 2,500-word
answer was long and meandering. How about a little more detail about what is in
the newly-minted health plan and a little less minutia about what kind of saddle
the horses in the health-care horse race are wearing.
And the real bummer is that Oboma mutters so slowly that his messages seem
so painfully long.
Why wasn't the question and the answer to the question related to us as it was
asked and answered?
Had that been the case, we would be able to tell if the asked question was
answered. As reported, there is no way to tell.
One must keep in mind that President Obama in a previous life was an educator,
as such I fully expect him to give long and clear answers.
Contrary to opinions here, a short yes or no answer does not do it for me. The
world is not that simple.
Why is this reporter such an arrogant jerk? Obama's answer was too long? For
Anne, or for Doris? Just because Anne has heard it before, although she's never
bothered to report it, doesn't mean people outside of the Washington elite know
about it.
How about reporting the story, reporter, and asking Doris how she felt about the
answer, if you really felt Obama was so out of line? How long should the
president have spoken, Anne? Five minutes? Six and a half? Seven? Eight point
6? Two? Tell us, oh soothsayer of all of America's feelings about the length of
President Obama's alloted time to answer questions about healthcare and taxes.
What's funny is that Obama, after his long spiel, never even answered the original
question about the massived tax increases that go along with Obamacare. I
guess it wasn't part of the whole emphazize the positive talking points from the
Democratic party marching orders. The questioner must have snuck in also since
all the other Obamcare rallies are 100% full of Obama acolytes and just nod their
head in agreement to every one of Obama's inane comments.
Nobody's yet said this guy got this job by being experienced at governing. He is
what he's always been. I'm sorry.
He did answer hers, and all our questions. In more ways than one.
It must be that foreign upbringing that accounts for the president's inability to
understand that USAns like their answers short, simple, and wrong.
Here's the real problem: Obama knows a huge tax increase must be levied in the
future --- his future --- to bring the deficit down. He can't count on a robust
economy to increase Federal revenues. His own policies, combined with the
lethargic recovery (much of America's growth these past five years has been
fueled by the easy credit/refi market) means Federal tax revenues are NEVER ---
at least in the next five years or so --- going to approach the levels of the past. So
new taxes must be levied. And you CANNOT get everything the
government "needs" from the rich. The mother lode is in the middle class, right
where this questioner resides.
So Obama is very testy about the level of taxes NOW, knowing he's hatching a big
increase either in Jan 2011 or immediately after he is reelected. Ideally, he would
like a Value Added Tax (VAT). Sure, there would be lots of gimmicks
and "refundable tax credits" for about 40% of the population to ameliorate the
effects of this highly regressive form of taxation. To get it passed would be
another HCR fight. Failing the VAT, the Democrats are likely to go after other ways
to get your money. There are several ideas lurking in the shadows: do away with
the home mortgage deduction; seize all the 401(K) funds and issue annuities;
the universal financial transaction tax, etc. If he can figure out a way to get an
agency to collect money through regulation, bypassing the Congress, that is what
he will try and do.
Yes, Mr. Obama is VERY SENSITIVE about the subject of taxes, for good reason.
BTW, this article marks some kind of a breakthrough for Ms. Kornblut, who until
this point had been more in the "Mr. Obama, can I offer you a pillow?" category of
reporting.
Obama has always been known for his overly-long answers to questions. I think
he does it in large part to limit the time available for more questions. Brett Baier
knew this about Obama, and tried to limit his answers in that Fox interview a few
weeks ago. Everyone bashed Brett Baier, but I applaud Baier for recognizing the
ploy and trying to disrupt it.
Obama always tends to talk longer on questions he's not particularly fond of.
Why? So you'll forget the question that was asked, thereby not noticing that he
didn't really answer it.
It's true that public opinion is divided but I wish WaPo would start clarifying that the
the new law has opponents on the right AND the left. Some say it goes to far, and
other say it doesn't go far enough. The fact that it's not single payer probably
accounts for half of those that oppose the bill. As Obama said, it's a centrist plan.
"FIRST, DO NO HARM."
• Why so many cell towers saturate the American landscape -- urban and rural.
• American human rights atrocities, ideological purge, under the cover of national
security.
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
NOW IT'S OBAMA'S GESTAPO USA. WHEN WILL TEAM OBAMA ACT?
• Reporter exposing gov't cell tower microwave torture held hostage to community
stalking, police-protected, GPS-equipped vigilante squads that burglarize,
vandalize, sabotage finances, and terrorize -- officially-enabled lawlessness that
afflicts many thousands of other unconstitutionally targeted and persecuted
Americans.
http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-
america
Still, more Americans said they were working part-time even though they
preferred full-time work. When they and discouraged workers who have given up
searching for jobs are included, the "underemployment" rate ticked up to 16.9
percent from 16.8 percent.
The only way everyone would be covered for health care in this country is is we
had single payer health insurance like the rest of the civilized world.
The fact that it took Obama 17 minutes to NOT answer her question says it all. It's
hard to give a straight answer when you're screwing over the middle and working
classes in favor of your rich insurance company friends.
Posted by: solsticebelle | April 2, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse
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