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NOTE:Istronglyrecommendyoudon'tbotherthinkingaboutthistoomuch.Justgoanddoit.Itworks.Anyideas
youmighthaveaboutitareuselesstoyou.Comebackandreadandcontributetothecommentsafteryouhave
donetheexercise.
EDIT:Madeaminorchangetotheinstructionstoclearupapotentialambiguity,21Sep2015.

Althoughweoftentendtoview"dimensionaljumping"or"realityshifting"asaspecificeventinvolvingaparticular
act,infactitisjustaspecialcaseofalargertruthaboutthenatureofexperience.
Ineverydaylifeweareusuallyoblivioustoallofthis,duetoinattention,ordeliberatelyignoreit,becauseits
implicationscanmakeusuncomfortable.However,itistoouradvantagetoembracethisknowledgeandthereare
simplewayswecanleverageitforeasychange.
Thereismoretobesaidonthat,andI'llfollowthisupwithanotherpostinfuture,butfornowI'dliketoencourage
everyonetoperformaverysimplepracticalexercise.

Instructions:TwoGlassesExercise
Herearetheinstructions,whichyoushouldfollowexactly:
Chooseaspecificsituationthatyouwanttochange,butonethatyoudon'tnecessarilyhavemuch
influenceover.
Decideclearlywhatthecurrentsituationis,andwhatthedesiredreplacementsituationis.
Gettwoglasses.
Gettwobitsofpaperorlabels.
Filloneoftheglasseswithwater.
Onthefirstlabel,writeawordthatsummarisesthecurrentsituation,andstickittothefilledglass.
Onthesecondlabel,writeawordthatsummarisesthedesiredsituation,andstickittotheemptyglass.
Withthetwoglassesinfrontofyou,pauseforamoment,andcontemplatehowyourlifeiscurrentlyfilled
withthefirstsituation,andemptyofthedesiredsituation.
Then,whenyou'reready,pourthewaterfromthefirstglass(thecurrentsituation)intothesecondglass
(thedesiredsituation),whilereallynoticingthesoundsandfeelingandshiftingofthewaterfromonetothe
other.
Sitbackandseetheglassesintheirnewstateallowyourselftotakedeepbreathandfeelrelieved.

Drinkthewaterandenjoythesatisfactionofhavingmadethedesiredchange.
Takeoffthelabels,putawaytheglasses,carryonwithyourlife.
OnethingI'dliketoemphasiseisthatyouwillgetresultshere,soifyoudodecidetoperformthisexercise:
Pleasetakethisseriouslyandonlychooseareplacementsituationthatyouwillbehappytolive
with.

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MOPPET 224d,1h
ThisisWiccanspellcasting101.

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TriumphantGeorge 224d,1h
Forsureorrather,ithascommonelements,withouttheunnecessary(orrather:optional)culturalbaggage.Itis
simplymeanttoprovideausefulexperienceforthosewhowouldnototherwiseencounterit.(Andit'sabridgetoa
moregeneralisedversion.)

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[deleted] 133d,12h
It'sallquantumconsciousnessandfractalspacetimeintheend:)whatevermethodworksiswhatworks!

TriumphantGeorge 133d,12h
Spacetime??Amerefairytale!Thosedarned"quantums"doseemtogeteverywherethesedaysthough.)

[deleted] 133d,10h
asabove,sobelow

TriumphantGeorge 133d,10h
Hmm,Ikindathinkthatphraseisablocktounderstandingforalotofpeople,justbecauseitimmediately
causesthemtothinkintermsofaspatialrelationship(evenifitisametaphoricalone),whichseparatesout
twoaspectswhicharenotseparate.Butthen,that'sprobablytotakeittooseriouslyanyway.

[deleted] 133d,9h
Atheoryofeverythinghastoincludeeverything.)

TriumphantGeorge 133d,9h

Andthatincludesthetheoryitself!:)

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PortAndChocolate 133d,10h

It'sbasicsympatheticmagic.Beenaroundwaylongerthanwicca.

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BokoMaruGranfaloon 218d,16h
I'vealwaysbeenabletomakemyselfsick(thinkgoinghomefromelementaryschool)..Icouldconvincemyself
thatIhadafevereventhoughIwasfineandthenthethermometerinthenurse'sofficewouldreadatemperature.I
havealwaysfeltlikeIhadsomecontrolofmyworld,butIneverwentbeyondmakingmyselfsick.(Whatagreat
useofmyenergy!!!)So,I'vebeensufferingfromsometerriblefibromyalgialikepainforaboutayear.My
assumptionhasbeenthatit'sstressrelatedsinceI'mfairlyhealthyandhaveacleanbillofhealthbesidesbeing
slightlyoverweight.I'malsoafirstgradeteacherandbeinginconstant,exhaustingpainisnotexactlyconduciveto
theworkenvironment.So,IdecidedIwouldtrythisexperimentabouttwoweeksago.Ononeglass,Iwrote"pain"
andtheotherIwrote"health".Itriedtobeverycarefulwithmywording.Isetmyintention,didafewcleansing
breaths,andpouredthewater.ThenImovedonwithmyday.
Asoftoday,Ihavehadnoseriousbackpainsincethatday,andonlyslighttingling/achingafterbendingor
crouchingfortoolongatwork.Nofeetthatfeellikesteppingonglass.Lovepatsfrommysondon'tfeellikehe's
punchingabruise.
Itoldmypartnerthatevenifitdoescomebackovertime,atleastIhadsomerelief!!I'mVERYsatisfiedwithmy
resultssofar.

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TriumphantGeorge 218d,7h
Hey,that'sbrilliantnews!Reallypleasedtohearit!And,ofcourse,I'mslightlyamusedthatyouspentyour
childhoodusingyour"infinitepowers"tomakeyourselfsick.Kidlogiceh?)

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bbeach88 166d,16h
YoumightenjoyreadingaboutBiofeedback(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biofeedback).It'sstrange,butitseems
thatengaginginthatkindofpositiveritualcanengagebiologicalfunctionsthatworkonasubconsciouslevel.
Inotherwords,believingthatyourbodyishealthy(orwillbe),causesyourbodytofunctionmoreasthoughit
werehealthy,thusmakingyouhealthier!!
IhavealwaysfeltlikeIhadsomecontrolofmyworld,butIneverwentbeyondmakingmyselfsick.
What'simportanttorememberisthatyouweren'texercisingcontrolofyourworld,butyourself.Thisactuallyisn't
anyless,butmuchmuchmore.Forwhatisyourworldwithoutyou?You'llfindthataffectingyourselfandthe
worldaremuchthesame.
Thinkofitlikeflexingyourhand,you'rejustutilizingadifferentkindofmuscle.

kickaguard 121d,17h
I'malwaysthinkingofitlikeaspaceship.WhenI'mhavingaproblemImentallydivertmoreofmymentothe
problemarea.Like,sayInoticeacutlookingkindofnotright.I'lltakeaminutetothink"alrightcrew,wegota
possiblehullbreachinsector7.Let'sgetateamovertheretotakealookandstartonrepairssoon.More
importantly,wegotacoedsoccergamecomingupat1800,let'stryanddosomethingaboutthishangover."
Seemstokeepmegoing.

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lorgi 228d
Hey,triedthistwodaysago.Fromallmyattemptssofarthisexercisewastheonlyonewithresults.Itsnotthe
exactsolutiontotheunwantedsituationIhadinmindwhenIdidtheexperimentthough(itwouldbeahugejump,
likechangepastevents),butitsasmall,positivedevelopment,anditcouldleadtomydesiredsituation.Nothing
isyetguaranteedthough,I'llhavetowaitafewweeks.Ididitjustasyoudescribed,Ididn'tmeditateonthisor
thoughttoomuchaboutit,justdecidedtheoutcome,emptiedtheglasses,threwthelabelsinthetrashandforgot
aboutitforacouplehours.LaterthatdayIreceivedsomegoodnewsaboutmyproblem.ShouldIkeepdoingitor
onceisenough?

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TriumphantGeorge 227d,23h
That'sgoodnews!Onceisenough,becausethechangehasnowmade.It'slikechangingtheTVtoachannel
thatwillbeshowingyourfavouriteshow.Onceyou'veswitchedchannel,youdon'thavetokeepswitching
channelit'sdone.Nowyoujusthavetocarryonpotteringaboutuntiltheshowcomeson.


inspectoralex 195d,23h

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Justfinishedmyexercise.Ifilledastemlesswineglasswithcold,filteredwater.Igotapieceofpaperandripped
itinhalf,ononeIputmyundesiredpositionatworkandmynewoneontheother.Ichoseapenwithmyfavorite
coloredinktowritebothofthem.IknewIhadtapeinthehousewithwhichtoattachmypapers,butIdidnotfind
it.So,Itooktwostickynotes,oneyellow(thecolorIlikeleast)andtheothermyfavoritecolor.ThistimeIwrote
thesamewords,butIusedaplainblackinkontheyellowpaperandmyfavoritecolorfortheother.Iattachedthe
notes,foundtheyellowonedidnotstickwellbecausetheglasshadcondensationonit,butIhelditinplace.I
attachedtheotherstickynoteandproceededtopourthewaterintotheemptyglass.AsIdid,Iheldmynew
positioninmylefthand,myunsteadyhand,andthewaterfromthefirstglassdidmisstheemptyoneabit.
However,thoughsomewaterdidescapethefirstglass,Ifoundthatthesecondglasswasfilledwithasmuch
waterasthefirstone,asifthewaterthatescapedwasreplacedorneverspilledatall.IthendrankthewaterIput
intothatglass,noticinghowrefreshingitwasandhowmuchIneededthewater.IrelishedeverygulpItook,
thoughInormallydonotlikecolddrinks.Iflippedbothglassesupsidedownonmydishdryingmat.Iputthe
papers,boththestickynotesandothertwo,ontopoftheglassitbelongedto.Ithenburnedthetwopaperson
whichIwrotemyoldpositionatworkandwashedtheremnantsdownthekitchensink.Finally,Ifoldedupthetwo
withmynewpositionandputthembehindsomebooksonabookshelfsotheywouldbekeptsafeyetoutofsight.
IfeelmuchbetternowthatIhavegottenthispromotionatwork,asIputinalotofhardworkandeffortintoit.Idid
everythingandmorethanwasexpectedofmeandIamnowreapingtherewardsofmylabor,andameagertotake
onnewresponsibilitiesandcontinueshowingmyskillsandlearningmoreatwork.IachievedwhatIsetouttodo,
whichwasgetpromotedbeforetheendofmyfirstyearworkingthere.

That_One_Personality 178d,11h
Helloguys!Thisismyfirstpostonthesubandalsomyfirstevercommentonreddit!I'mreallyskepticalofthese
typesofthingseventhoughIresearchthemandhopethattheyaretrue.Couldthismethodworkforanychange?
Anysignificantchange?I'mtransgendered.Ihaven'tdoneanythingatallyetfortransition.CouldIusethismethod
toswitchtoadimensionwereIamactuallyawoman?

TriumphantGeorge 178d,10h
Potentiallyanychange,althoughthismethodisgoingtogenerallyproduceresultsby"plausibleifveryunlikely"
means.Inotherwords,that'saprettybigdiscontinuouschangeforthiszeroprepapproach!Althoughyou'lltend
togetresultsof"somesort"anywayevenfor"impossible"things.

jint3i 228d,23h
It'sworking!

TriumphantGeorge 228d,23h
Butofcourse!Onceit'scomplete,dopostyourresults(youdon'thavetogointospecificsifit'sprivate,justthe
generalideaofwhatyouchoseandhowithappenedforyou).

Oncethereareafewin,I'llwriteupthesecondpartofthepost.

jint3i 228d,22h
Thisisalongtermrelationshipinvestmentthatstartedinthelastmonthofthispastyear.I'llsetareminderto
updateayearfromnow.

jint3i 228d,22h
RemindMe!365days"How'sthatgoingforya?"

StLStartupHopeful 74d,9h
OK,it'sbeenalmost6monthsandI'mdyingtoknow:)
How'sthatgoingforya?

jint3i 74d,9h
I'mwealthybeyondmywildestdreams,I'vefoundmyselfinaloving,healthyrelationship,andI'mpursuinga
lifelonggoalthatwasonhiatusforthebetterpartofadecade(asofaboutamonthago).
Sayingthatthingsarelookingupmightbeanunderstatement.

whalestuff 230d,18h
Thisworkedforme.Ipostedaboutithere
(/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/comments/3gqki8/triggered_glitch_feel_intense_guilt/).

TruckMcBadass 225d,4h
Sowereyouoriginallyfrom982?Ifnot,wherewereyoufrom?

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TriumphantGeorge 153d,7h
Well,whenyouwantachange,thensomethingelsehastochangetoo,andtherewillalwaysbesomecollateral
shiftingtokeeptheworldcoherentand"plausible".Andthat'sagoodthing.
Generally,ifyou'refeelingsuperstitiouslikethat,justhavetheadditionalbackgroundintentionthatthingsshould
workoutthebestforeveryone.Butyourrealproblemisthatyouarefullof"whatiffery".Butwhatifthisorthat.
Well,whatifsomethingreallygreathappens?
Whenitcomestothisstuff,youshouldn'tbeplanningorsecondguessingatall.Yousimplydotheexercise,then
consideritdoneatthatmomentandcarryonwithyourlifetheresultswillcometoyou.
Really,youshouldstarttreatingallyourthoughtsasdirectinteractionswiththeworld.Don'tspendtime
deliberatelythinkinganythingthatyoudon'tactuallywant.Passingthoughtsarefinethey'rejustfleetingripples.
Buttointentionallythinkstuffyoudon'twant,wouldbe...anerror.
Y'know,allofthereligionsandmagickaltraditionshavesomeconceptof"faith"or"surrender"thisiswhatthey
mean.Youhavetosimplytrustthat,althoughyoucan'tseebeyondthehorizonofthepresentmoment,thatyour
intentionshavealreadybeenincorporatedandwillcometoyouwhentheappropriatecontextarises.Trustit.
(There'sreallynoothersolution.)

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_mobiusstripper 225d
HeyGeorge,
CanIusethistojumptoadimensionwhereI'mmorehardworking?IfeelsometimesthatIdon'thavecontrolof
this,andsometimesthatIdo.
Forexample,ifIput"nondiligent"onthefirstglassand"diligent"onthesecond?

TriumphantGeorge 224d,23h
Forsure,butyoushouldbecarefulwhatyouwishfor,andchoosecarefully."Diligent"(conscientious,attentive,
productivewhenrequired)definitelysoundslikeabetterideathan"hardworking"(swampedbyobligations?).Be
mindfulofthevillagegirl(/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/comments/3gqki8/triggered_glitch_feel_intense_guilt/cu0ocog),
intermsofbeingspecific.

Silentswiftly 213d
Decidedtotackleamore"direct"currentsituationofmine.Ihave2paperssubmittedtoaconferencethatare
currentlyunderreview.Theresultsaresupposedtobeoutinthenextweekortwo.
Mytwoglasseswerewrittenexactlyas:
1)Bothpaperssubmitted
2)Bothpapersaccepted

IwillposttheresultsforotherstoseeonceIgetwordofthem.

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Silentswiftly 199d,16h
Update:Bothpapersaccepted!

inverz 201d,20h
Ijustdidit..Let'schillandseewhathappensnow

game004 194d,18h
Diditwork?

inverz 194d,15h
Let'schillandseewhathappensnow
Tobehonest,NotYet

game004 194d,14h
Willyoudeliverinaweek?

inverz 194d,3h
DidIgiveitaweek?Yeah

game004 194d,3h
Giveitasecondweek

inverz 193d,22h

Alrightnp,I'mdoingothersexperimentsaswellwhileIwait

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xianftw 169d,21h
IdidtheTwoGlassesExercisetoday.Mywifehasbeenquitesad(hormonal),onandoffforoverayearnowsince
oursecondchildwasborn.It'stearingmeapartandit'sdifficulttogethertogethelp.I'vewitnessedtheworstpart
ofSSRIsandoftenit'stradingoneproblemforanother,soI'moptingtosilentlysetsomeintentions.
Wishmeluck.I'llcheckbacksoononceIdetermineifitworked.

TriumphantGeorge 169d,21h
Hey,mythoughtsarewithyouonthisone.Friendswentthroughsomethingsimilaranditwasverydistressing
(allgoodnowthough).Consider"luckwished".

CyanGatorade 169d,13h
Justtriedtheexercise.
Sorryfortheshortnovel,guys.TLDR:Triedit,nothingyet,willreportback.
Thiswastogetbacktogetherwithagirlfriend.Itsoundsabitpettyandemotionaltodothisover,butwewere
togetherfor4years,livingtogetherfor3,andhavebeensavingmoneythewholetime.Wewerejustunderayear
awayfromachievingourbiggoalofhavingenoughmoneytobuyahouseofourown,andimmediatelyafter,have
kidsandstartafamily.Idon'twanttogointowhatIsaid,butamonthishagoIsaidsomethingsthatcausedher
tobreakupwithmethereonthespot.Westilllivetogether,butshehasbeenabitcoldandhasjustrecentlygiven
meachancetostartcasuallydatinghertoshowherthatI'vereformedmybehavior.SheisfullyconvincedthatI
won'tbeabletoconvinceherofanything.
Anyway.IthoughtaboutmycurrentsituationandthewayI'mfeelingrightnowandreallygotintomyemotions.
ThenIthoughtaboutmydesiredoutcome....blissfullyinloveasweusedtobe.Ipouredtheglasses.Andonthe
firstnoteIsimplywrote"brokeup",andonthesecondnoteIdecidedtoignoretheonewordsuggestionandwrote
"happy,lovingcouple*"becauseIwantedtobemorespecificthanjust"together"and"happylovingcouple"is
clearandspecificenoughtobeasinglewordifoneexisted.Theasteriskisanotetomyselfthatnobeinginmy
lifeshouldbenegativelyaffected(toanykindofseriousdegree)asameansofgettingtomydesiredoutcome.So
IattachedthenotesandfeltabitofsadnessasIsawthefullcupwiththewords"brokenup"onitasasymbolof
mycurrentshatteredstate.Ithenlookedtotheothercupandfeltbothsadnessandhappinessandexperienceda
chilldownmyneckaswellasaminorfeelingofadrenalinerushfrom/tomystomach(notsurewhichorwhy).I
glancedbackandforthbetweenglassesimagininghowgreatitwouldbeforthe2ndcuptobemyreality.Ilifted
the1stcupandreallytookinthesymbolismwithwhatIwasdoinginpouringallthewateroutofthenegativecup
andintothepositivecupwhichsymbolizeseverythingthatmakesmehappyinlife.

Iactuallyspilledsomewaterbecausetheglasseswerenotverygoodforthissortofthing(notalot,butmorethan
alittle),sobeforetakinginthesightofthenewwaterplacement,Igotatowelandwipedupthepuddleofwaterin
themiddlebecauseitbotheredme.WhenIlookedattheglasses,Igotanotherchillandaveryslightfeelingof
contentmentatlookingattheempty"brokenup"glass,andallofthewatersittingwhereIwantittobe.Ididn't
noticeitbefore,butinthenewglassInoticedhownicelythelightshinesonthewaterandhowitlooksalmost
jewellikewiththeshapeoftheglass(itwasabeermuginlikeadecagonshape).RemindedmeofaCZpromise
ringIgavetohershortlyafterthebreakup.
Withthat,IdrankthewaternotrealizinghowthirstyIwasandfinisheditallnoproblem.Honestly,Idon'tfeel
anythingdifferentrightnowandnosenseofanykindofrenewal,butIknowIhavetowaittoseeanything.
IwillupdateifInoticeanythingstrangeoroutoftheordinary.WillalsoupdateinafewdaysifIdon'tnotice
anythingatall.
ThanksalotforthispostbythewayTriumphantGeorge.

CyanGatorade 168d,16h
So,forthefirsttimeinmy24yearlife,mycarhasbeeneggedforapparentlynoreasonatall.Must'vehappened
inthemiddleofthenightlastnight.I'dnormallybefurious,butIreallydidn'thaveanyreactiontoitotherthan
"Darnkids".ThispastmonthhaschangedmyoutlookonlifedramaticallyandhasREALLYtaughtmenotto
sweatthesmallstuff.
Duetoasmallmundanechainofeventsstemmingfrommycarbeingegged,myexgirlfriendandIwoundup
goingtoananimalshelterwhichwassomethingourentirerelationshipthatI'dbeenaversetobecauseIknewI'd
wanttotakeadoghomeandwedidn'thaveahouseofourown.SheseemedreallyexcitedandIkindoflether
knowthatowningadogissomethingIamkindofopeningupto.
Maybestrangecoincidence,maybethestartofachainofeventsleadingsomewheregood.
Otherthanthat,onlyotherthingI'veseenthatwasweirdtodaywasaGIANThousebuilt(almostcompletely,still
someequipmentlyingaround)whereI'malmostpositivetherewasonlyasmallhovelthathadbeentherefor
yearsandyears.It'saplaceIdrivepasteveryday,butI'mprobablyjustgoingtochalkthisoneuptomebeing
unobservant.

xianftw 168d,23h
Goodluck.Perhapsyournextexerciseshouldbeonethatfocusesondeeplychangingwhateveritwasthatabout
youthatupsethersomuchtobegin?


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Passion_Fish 215d,9h
Interestingly,theideasyouproposehereareconsistentwiththewritingsofphysicistMaxTegmark
(http://www.amazon.com/OurMathematicalUniverseUltimateReality/dp/0307599809),whichyouperhapsmay
alreadyknow.However,hedoesnotgosofarastosuggestthatitisaphenomenonthatcanbetestedand/or
manipulated.I.e.heproposesthatthebasicsubstanceofouruniverseisasortofmathematicalobject,butstops
thereanddoesnotmakethefinalsteptoequatingthatobjectwiththeAkashicRecord.

TriumphantGeorge 215d,7h
Yes,I'vereadsomeofTegmark'sworkwithinterest(andhe'sanentertainingguy).
EDIT:It'sbeenawhile,soapologiesifI'mmisrepresentinghisapproach.
Frommemory,whereI'ddifferisthathestillviewstheuniverseasa"thing"andthatitis"madefrom"structures
whichhaveanindependentexistence,andhistreatmentofconsciousnessasastatewithinthat.Therewe,once
again,taketheinformationprocessingmetaphoras"real"andindependent,andplaceconsciousnesswithinthat.
Theuniversestillseemstobea"place"ratherthanaideaorpatternwhichformatsexperience.
TomCampbelltakesasimilarapproach,althoughhedoessuggestthatintentioncanselectoutcomesit'sjust
thathebindshimselfwiththeconceptsofprobabilitiesandrulesets,asiftheyareindependentsystemproperties
"outthere",andimpliesintelligenceinthatbeyondours.
Inourapproach,werecognisethatallnarrativesareabstractandarbitrarytheyareexperienceslikeanyother.
Thereisnofundamentalstructuringatallexceptwhatweadoptasconsciousness.Weareintelligent,patterns
are"dumb".
Andthat'swhywecantestandmanipulateitwe'vegotittherightwayaround.Recognisingourselvesas
unstructuredconsciousnesswhichhas"takenontheshapeof"particularpatterns,wearefreeto"shapeshift"in
ordertochangestateandselecttheformofsubsequentexperiences.
Theproblemisthatthisrequiressomefaithofasort:
Youhavetoactuallydoa"shift"inordertoexperienceastatechangeandtherebyprovetoyourselfthatpatterns
arearbitrary.Ifyoutrytoworkthisoutintellectuallyfromyourcurrentview,orinvestigatewithoutactually
intendingresults,you'lljustcontinuetohaveexperiencesfromyourcurrentstateconfirmingyourcurrentstate.
That'swhythere'stheTwoGlassesExerciseaboveandtheOwlsOfEternity
(/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/3du9dh/synctv_the_owls_of_eternity/)synchronicityexercise.Easystuffthat
hopefullygivespeopletheexperience.Thentheycanplaywithreformattingthemselveswithwhatever"active
metaphor"they'reattractedto(HallofRecords,InfiniteGrid,ImaginationRoom,etc).
IthinkifTegmark(orwe)reinterpretedhisdescriptionas"experientialformatting"thenitcouldbequiteapowerful
enablingmetaphor.


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TriumphantGeorge 213d,8h

Coincidentally,therewasaprogrammefeaturingMaxTegmark
(http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/drh9yx/horizonhorizonwhichuniversearewein)about"themultiverse"last
night.Itwasn'tverygoodatall,butI'dsayMaxcameoverbestoutofthefourscientistsfeatured.

Passion_Fish 212d,9h
Interesting,I'llhavetowatch.
WhatIlikeaboutTegmarkisthathisworkonthemultiversepointstosomethingaboutconsciousnessand
realitythatliesbeyondthecommonmaterialassumptionsthatmostpeoplehold.Probablybeyondthosethat
mostphysicistshold(can'tsayforsure...Istudiedadvancedphysicsincollege,butIeventuallymovedonto
biology/medicine).Buthisapproachisstillverymaterial,andseemstomisstheobviousfollowupquestion:
whatisthesubstrateforthe(presumablyeternal)mathematicalobjectthathousesourmultiverse?
Onthesubjectofscientistsandconsciousness,IrecentlyreadaninterviewwithneuroscientistSamHarris
(http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/samharrissvanishingself/?_r=0)onthe"illusionofself".He
takesaveryBuddhistperspectiveontheabsenceofself.Ofcoursethereisn'taselfinthewaywecommonly
think,buthegoestoofar,andwhenquestionedaboutinconsistenciesinhisassertions,hewaiveshishands
andfailstodeliveranswers.
Thissubhasaninterestingapproachtotheproblem.I'mstillconductingmyownpersonalexperimentsbasedon
therecommendationshere.IwillreportbackwhenIreachconclusions.
Thanksforthemindfood!

TriumphantGeorge 212d,7h
.Buthisapproachisstillverymaterial,andseemstomisstheobviousfollowupquestion...
Yes,that'sthething.Tegmarkessentiallygetstothe"patterning"approach,buttheninsiststhatthosepatterns
aresomehow"external"(theproblemwithallsimulationandinformationmodels).Ifhejustmadethestepto
sayingthatthesepatternsaremodulationsofconsciousness,thatthereisno"underlying",he'dbeprettymuch
there.Icanunderstandwhyhe'dbereluctanttodosothough.(He'salsoboundbyviewingtheworldasa
"place"Ithink.)
OtherphysicistssuchasDavidBohmhavegonethere
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicate_and_explicate_order)asdidmanyoftheearly20thcenturyphysicists.
Butatsomepointthere'srisenthetendencytoconfuseourabstractionsasbeingobjectsratherthan
narratives.(SeeMermin(http://www.ehu.eus/aitor/irakas/mes/Reference/mermin.pdf).)
SamHarrisisokayasanengagingspeaker,buthedoesn'treallygettothebottomofit.Hisconceptionofself
isof"thisperson"buthedoesn'tfollowitthroughandarriveatthecontextofexperience.Ithinkheconfuses
"consciousness","consciousnessof"and"selfconsciousness"whichiswhy"awareness"isabetterword
perhapsforthe"nonmaterialmaterialwhoseonlypropertyisbeingaware".Hethenendsupinacornerwhenit
comestothingslikefreewill.
Wehavetorememberthatthiscrossesoverdeeplyintophilosophy,andneuroscientiststendnottobethat
wellversed,andevenwiththephysiciststhereseemstobeatrendtowardsignoranceofthefactthatall
modelshaveanimpliedphilosophywhetherrecognisedornot.(SeeGeorgeEllis

(http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/crosscheck/physicistgeorgeellisknocksphysicistsforknocking
philosophyfalsificationfreewill/)forcommenthere.)
AbetterbetinmyviewiscognitivescientistDonaldHoffman'stake(seeTEDtalk
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYp5XuGYqqY)),withinterfacetheory(https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=dqDP34aepI)andconsciousrealism(http://www.cogsci.uci.edu/%7Eddhoff/ConsciousRealism2.pdf).Itstill
impliesan"externalenvironment"ofsomesortwhichIdisagreewith,buttherestofthepictureisinteresting.
(Ifyougetridofspace,therecanonlybeinternalenvironmentsoractually,"dissolved"environments.)
Yeah,itistheultimatemindfood...withmindasitsingredients!

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TriumphantGeorge 181d,7h
That'sagoodone.Washavingaconversationaboutcollateralshiftselsewhere.Copyhereincaseyoufindita
usefulwaytothinkofthis:
FactualUpdatesandCollateralShifts
Iftheworldisacontinuousandcoherentpattern,ablanketofmaterial
(/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/comments/3nccx3/remembering_memories_from_other_timelines/cvn4cxr)withfoldsas
facts,thenyoucan'tadjustonefactwithouttuggingalittleontherestofthematerial,impactingtheotherfolds.
Althoughthese"collateralshifts"wouldmakesenseintermsofthefundamentalnaturetheblanketthey
wouldn'tfollowthelogicoftheworld'sapparentcontentthefolds.
Forinstance,yourcartumblesoffthesideoftheroadbutflash!suddenlyitdidn'thappenafterall.Changing
thatfactinevitablyresultsinacollateralshiftoftheworldasawhole.Butittakestheformof,say,anextratinof
fruitinyourkitchencupboard,anewsreporter'shairbeingpartedattheotherway,andanacquaintanceyou've
notseenin10yearsnowneverexisted.Thosechangesarecausallylinkedto,butnotlogicallylinkedto,the
event.
Quitepossiblyyouwouldneverencountertheseupdatedfacts.However,thechangeinyourfeltsenseofthings
that"globalsummary"sensationthatyouhavemightmeanthattheworldsortof"tastes"differentsubsequently.
Youintuitivelyknowthatyouarenolongerinthesameplace.There'sadifferent"flavour"toyourlifeafterthe
accidentsomehow.

candypinkstar 157d,16h
Justdidthe2glassesexperiment.Ihavealotofanxietysolabeledmyfirstglassandcurrentsituationas
"anxious"andthedesiredoutcome"lessanxious".IwillcheckbackifInoticechanges.Aquestionthough,is
therealimittohowmanytimesyoucandothisexerciseonthesamesituationperhapsalteringitslightly?How
manytimescanyoudothisexercisefordifferentsituationsinyourlife?Thanks!

TriumphantGeorge 157d,16h
Youshoulddoitonceforasituation,andthenletitsettleout.Ifyoukeepdoingitrepeatedlyforthesame
situation,youarejustconstantlychangingstate.Remember:thechangehappensatthemomentyoudothe
exerciseit'sjustthattheyoudon'tnecessarilyencountertheevidenceuntillater.Inotherwords,futureevents
aresetinplacewhenyoudotheexercise.
There'snolimittohowmanytimesyouapplytheexercisefordifferentsituationsbutyoushouldperhapsleave
agapbetweeneachuse,becausethingsmightgetabitunstableifyoudoitalot,withoutlettingthingssettlea
bitaftereachtime.

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Aroha11 129d,16h
maybeitwouldbemoreeffectiveifinsteadof'lessanxious'youput'peaceful'(orequivalent),soyoudon'tfocus
onanxiety

candypinkstar 129d,14h
YeahmaybeIcouldhavedidn'tthinkofitatthetime.Howeveritworks!Prettycool.


LowSeptember 156d,14h

I'vejustcompletedthisandfeeloddlyatpeace.AtfirstIwasalittlenervousandasIdrankthewaterIfeltalittle
lightheaded,butthatwasmostlikelymyimaginationtryingtofreakmeout.Anyways,Ilabeledthefirstcupas
"Unsatisfied,"andthesecondoneas"Content,"andamquiteexcitedtoseetheresults!Thewordcontentapplies
toalotofsituationsIdonothavecontrolovermentallybecauseIdohavesomementalhealthissues,soI'm
hopingthisinfluencesmetomakebetterdecisionsandfeelhappieraboutwhatIhave.I'llpostaboutitwhen
somethinghappens!

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singularity_pet 232d,2h
instructions,whichyoushouldfollowexactly
I'veaproblem...
Isensenegativityinthefirstglass,theunwantedsituation.So,tomymind,pouringthattaintedwaterintothe
secondglasswouldbelikecontaminatingthedesiredsituation.
WhatcanIdo?

petrus4 232d
Isensenegativityinthefirstglass,theunwantedsituation.So,tomymind,pouringthattaintedwaterinto
thesecondglasswouldbelikecontaminatingthedesiredsituation.
WhatcanIdo?
Itruthfullydon'tconsidertheretobeanythingwrongwithacknowledgingthefactthatwearecurrentlyinan
undesirablestate.I'vebeendownloadingNevilleGoddardalotrecently,andhemightdisagree,buthearmeout
onthis.
Asarealworldexample,Ihaveacoldrightnow.IamusingthepresenttenseIHAVEacoldrightnow.Idon't
wantacold,butIhaveit,andIamnotyetgoodenoughatwhatNevilleteachestogetridofitinfiveminutes'
flat.SoinsteadwhatIamdoing,istheonlypracticalthingthatIcandorightnow.Idranklotsofvegetablejuice
andtookaherbalremedyyesterdaythatIhavefoundinthepasttobeeffective,andIamdrinkinglotsofwater,
andsleepingwhenIneedto,etc.
I'malso,however(andhereistheimportantpart,fromanLOA/Goddard/dimensionaljumpingpointofview)
releasingasmuchemotionalresistancetothecurrentfactthatIhaveacold,aspossible.Iamnotemotionally
attachedtothefactthatIhaveacold.Asaresult,myconditionoverthepast24hourshasimprovedfairly
dramatically.Yes,Istillhaveafewofthesymptomsofacold,andmightdoforanotherdayorsoyet,butI'mnot
allowingmyselftocarebecausecaringaboutagivenstateisthemainthingthatkeepsmeattachedtoit.The
coldwillgo.Notinstantly,perhapsbutwithtime.
Ialsousedthisbothlastnightandearlierthisevening,anditworkedfairlyquicklybothtimes.Iliveinaplace
thathaschickensandthreeroosters,andlastnighttheycrowedforagoodportionofthenightandkickedupa
realruckus.GiventhatIwasunwellatthetime,cold,andneededsleep,thatdidnotpleasemeatall.Sowhile
feelingfairlyintenseirritationtowardstheroosters,Ipracticedmyusualmethodoffirstmentallyseeinga
doorframethroughwhichIcouldhearsilenceandnoroosterscrowing,andwalkedthroughit.
Absolutelynothinghappened.Itrieditprobably34times,andtheroostersjustkeptoncrowing.SoIstopped,
andtookadifferentapproach.IforcedmyselftoreleasealloftheemotionalresistanceIhadtowardsthe
roosterscrowing.Itoldmyselfthattheroosterscouldcrowallnightiftheywantedto,andIwouldn'tcareabitI'd
putthefanontodrownthemoutandjustsleeprightthroughit.Theroostersstoppedcrowinglessthanfive
minuteslater,andIwenttosleep.
Flashforwardtothisevening.GiventhatI'minahostel,themainbuildinghasverythinplasterwalls,andthus
noisefromoneroom,penetratestoalloftheotherrooms.AlthoughIlatergotupagain,atthetimeIwasonce
againtryingtogettosleep,andtherewerenoisychildreninanadjacentroom.Again,samesituationIwassick,
cold,wantedtogettosleep,andbecameannoyedwiththechildren.Thistime,however,Irememberedtheresult
withtheroosters,andsimplywentstraighttothedetachmentphase.Itworkedlikeacharm.Thekidswereabit
persistentatfirst,buttheystillnoticeablyquieteneddowninaboutaminute.Afteraboutanotherfiveminutes,
theyweresilent.
Thisiswheretheguysoverin/r/Buddhism(/r/Buddhism)aremissingthepoint.Nibbanaisnotaboutyouceasing
toexistit'saboutyourattachmenttoyourcurrentsituationceasingtoexist.Thesecret,inthemostliteral
possiblesense,islearningnottogiveafuck.AsPatanjaliwroteseveralthousandyearsago,whenyouare
indifferenttoNature,shebecomesyourslave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ZAOFC9f84(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ZAOFC9f84)
"Nowwewilltellyouthatthoughtcreatesform,andwithemotionyouvibrateitintobeing."WendyKennedy,
intheabovemovie,channellingthePlaeidians.

Sodon'tdenyyourcurrentsituation.Denialisresistance,andresistanceisemotiondirectedtowardsthe
undesiredstate.Whatyougetiswhatyoufeelemotiontowards.
Whatyoudoneed:
Tenacity.
IamgoingtousethewordtenacitywhereNevilleGoddardusesthewordfaith.Itruthfullydonotlikefaithasa
wordterriblymuch,becausetomeitisfuzzy.Youwantsomethingwithapracticaloperatingdefinition,whereyou
canactuallyfeeltheword'sdefinitionwhenyousayitorthinkittoyourself.Determinationortenacityisonesuch
word.Grityourteethandsetyourjaw.
Now,thisisalsovery,verytricky.Youdonotwanttenacityspecificallytowardsyourdesiredoutcome,
becausethatwillagainannouncetothesystemthata}youaren'tinthesituationyouwant,andb}thatyoucare
aboutthat.Thatwillscrewyouup.Whatyouinsteadwantistenacityabouttheideathatyouaregoingtoget
whatyouwant,butyouverydeliberatelyleaveoutanyspecificdetailsabout"whatyouwant,"means.I'mnot
attachedtotheroosterscrowing,oranyotherspecificoutcome.I'monlyattachedtotheideathatIhavewhatI
want.Nospecifics.
Togobacktotheearlierexample,Igenuinelydidn'tcareaboutwhetherornottheroostersstoppedcrowing.I
madethedecisionthatIwasgoingtosleepnomatterwhat,andtheroosterscoulddowhattheyliked.Thislevel
ofgeneralityalsogivesthesystemroomtogiveyouwhatyoureallywant,notjustwhatyoumightsuperficially
thinkyouwant.
Anotherexample.Iamnotcurrentlyasgoodatthis,asNevilleGoddardhimselfwas.I'mjuststartingout.Thatis
completelyfine.Icanadmitthatandnotgetmynappyinatwistaboutitatall.Ialsoalreadyknowfromdirect
experience,however,thatNeville'stech(toborrowaScientologyterm)works.Sofromthat,IalsoknowthatIam
goingtoendupjustasgoodatthisashewashimself.It'sadonedeal.It'sjustamatteroftime.Resistanceis
futile.Nevillementionsthatthereisoftenatimelagforthings.Don'tgethunguponthat.
Theabilitytoturnyouremotionsonandoffoncommand.
Youdonotwanttogetridofyouremotionsentirely.Emotionalattachmentisthefuelwhichkeepsyouinsidethe
entirekarmicsystem.Ifyouwantliberation,thensure,scrubyouremotionscompletely.Totallackofdesireor
attachmentiswhatwillderailthekarmictrain,andletyouout.Idon'tnecessarilywanttogetoutjustyetI'd
preferenjoyingsometimeplayingthegamewithGodmodefirst.
Butthinkofyouremotionaselectricalcurrent,andemotionaldetachmentorindifferenceasacircuitbreaker.
Meditateregularly,becausethatwillhelpyougettothepointwhereyoucandecidewhatyoudoordonotwantto
careabout.IcanstillknowonapurelyintellectuallevelthatI'mnotyetwhereIwanttobeIjusthavetomake
surethatIdon'tcareaboutitatall,emotionally.Nonchalanceistheoldwordthatusedtodescribethatstate.

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TriumphantGeorge 232d
Ausefulwordhereis"distinction".
Thedistinctionbetweenyouandadistraction,betweenonepartofyourexperienceandanother,persistsit.For
aslongasonepartisperceivedas"other"thendirectinterventiondoesn'tdoanything.
On"faith"it'saruinedwordnow,butNevilleGoddard'suseisaboutright:it'san"assuming"or"knowing"that
somethingisthecase.Theprocessworks,simplyuseit.

Whenyouturnadoorhandle,youpushthedoorsimplyassumingitwillnowopen.Ifyoulaternoticethedoor
hasbecomeclosedagain,yousimplyturnthedoorhandleandopenitoncemore.Inthesameway,whenwe
makeanadjustmenttotheworld,whenweputitintoacertainstate,ifwenoticeithasdriftedorreverted,we
merelyreturnittothatstate.
Atsomepoint,thedoorstaysopen,thestatebecomesfixed.

singularity_pet 231d,21h
Thesecret,inthemostliteralpossiblesense,islearningnottogiveafuck.
I,too,amexperimentingwithdetachment.
Thebest(automatic)wayformeistorecognizeallthesignsthatwereallyareexperiencingadream,a
simulation...

wallabee88 227d,12h
Beautiful

Oracle010 138d,9h
Replyingtosavethisexcellentpost,thoughI'llprobablyonlyneedtoreaditonce!Thankyou.


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TriumphantGeorge 232d,1h
Ifthewaterisconsciousness,thenitisinherentlypureandcanneverbetaintedinafundamentalway.
However,ifyoufeelthatthewaterasyouthinkofitmightretaina"memory"oftheprevioussituation,itmakes
sensetogothroughaprocesswhichinvolvespurificationorfiltering.
Therearemanydifferentwaysyoumightdothis,sochoosetheonethatfeelsrighttoyou:
Getasieveorastrainer(http://www.ultimatereef.net/uploader/2007Q2/tea%20strainer.jpg).Simply
recognisethatthishasthepropertyofremovingresidualsituationalelements.Whenyoupourthewater
intothesecondglass,dosothroughthestrainer.
OrPourthewaterfromthefirstglassintoanemptykettle
(http://www.emmohome.com/media/IMAGES/Brands/saikai/resized/soriyanagikettleA_size2.jpg).Boil
thewatertocleanseit,beforepouringitintothesecondglass.

OrPourthewaterintothenewsituationglassasdescribed.Now,putawaterpurificationtablet
(http://www.aquatabs.com)intotheglass.Thiswillcleansethewaterofanyresidualeffectsofthe
previoussituation.

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singularity_pet 231d,21h
The"waterisconsciousness"clarificationdidthetrickandalignedmymindwiththecorrectmeaningofthe
metaphor.
Nowthenegativityseemssomewhatconfinedtothesolidpartoftheglass(adentedglass,forexample,isbad
butcannotstainthewater)
Thanks!
I'llkeepyoupostedontheresults.

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TriumphantGeorge 231d,21h
Great!
Youcouldperhapstreattheglassesasmereclumsyphysicalitiesoftheidealstheyrepresent.Inotherwords,
dentsandsoondonotmatter,becauseitisthe"container"or"location"propertyoftheglassthatisactive
here,notanyotherproperties.

Pixelsummoner 232d
Personally,Iwouldn'tchoosetoseeitinthatlight.Memoryofnegativityisn't,itself,negative.There'snoactual
segregationtoacknowledgingtheexperienceofsegregation.OnewaytoillustratethewayIthinkofitistothink
ofanartist'scolorpaletteevenifheonlypaintsbluewaters,itdoesn'tmeanheisn'tawarethatthecoloryellow
existsheknowsofdifferentarrangements,hejustchoosestousehispreferredones.
Inthatsense,theideaofhavingtocleanthewaterwhichisthesymbolicstandinfortheselfinthismodel
implies,tome,thebeliefthatthewayoneisintheircurrent(presumablynegative)experiencestateisunfitor
unworthyofachievingthedesired(presumablypositive)experiencestate.I'mnotsayingthere'ssomething
inherentlywrongwiththatbelief,butfrommyunderstandingweareourexperiencesthus,todecreethatwe
aren'tworthybecauseofanaspectofourselvesiseffectivelytoinvalidateourowneffortsundertheassumption
thatwe'renotgoodenoughtoattainourdesires.
Thatsaid,however,cleansingandassortedpurificationmethodscanbewonderfultoolstomakeonefeelbetter
thuseffectivelybebetter.Notbecausethe"wrong"waterwouldstainthedesiredstate,butasamechanism
throughwhichonecanapproachacceptance,bothofthechangeandoftheselfthatisexperiencingthechange.
Eitherway,beingawareofourreasonsisprobablytheimportantunderlininghere.


TriumphantGeorge 232d

Noindeed,Iwouldn'tseeitinthatlighteitherbutifsomeonedoesseeitthatway,thenthis(cleansing
procedure)isanefficientapproach.It'sacaseofthemworkingwiththefeelingthey'veactuallygot,ratherthan
tryingtodenythatfeelingorpersuadethemselvesoutofit.Infact,oneofthereasonsthewaytheexerciseis
structuredasitis,isthatithopefullyguidesyoutounwittinglyignoreallthatcrap,andjustdothething.
Thelessitiscontemplated,thebetter.
Itcomesdownto:gettingresultsdoesn'tnecessarilyrequireyoutoworkthingsout.Feelingworthyornot
worthyorpositiveornegativeisjustadistraction.Doyouhaveto"raiseyourvibration"ifyouwanttoputthe
kitchenlighton?No,it'sjustamovementandadirectinteractionwiththeworld.
Thepouringofthewaterisadirectinteractionwiththeworld.
PartTwowillfillinsomeofthedetailslater.Onecouldthinkofthatasathirdsituationalglass,Isuppose,
awaitingthepurewaterofattention...

kemtrailz 195d,10h
Whatifthewaterisalreadypurified?Isthecleansingprocessmoreofasymbolicthing?Thanks


TriumphantGeorge 195d,6h

Really,youdon'tneedtodothis.Itwasjusttoallaysomeone'sfears.Juststickingtothemaininstructionsis
allyouneed.

kemtrailz 194d,21h
Ah,gotcha.Thanksfortheresponse

resonant7 177d,1h
Heyman,thanksforsharingallthiswonderfulinformation.It'sreallyfascinating.Sowithregardstothisexercise,
let'ssayforexampleIwantedtochangesomethingphysicalsuchasgrowingslightlytaller.
WoulditbesafetodosuchathingifIamhappytolivewithit?


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singularity_pet 175d,10h
PartTwo?

TriumphantGeorge 175d,8h
...stilltocome,oncethepeoplehavehadtimetoplay.

sinwarrior 173d,11h

please!weneedpart2!:D

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Pixelsummoner 170d,19h
Isupposethispostisnowoldenoughthatthiscommentwon'tbeeasilynoticed.Perfect.
But,I'vethoughtsomeonthedesignofthismethodandonhowtoadaptittoomyparticulartastes,turnitintoa
morerefinedtoolratherthanasample.WhatI'vecometodeviseisreducingittoasingleglassandasmallpiece
ofpaper.Writtenonthepaperiswhateverrepresentsthedesiredoutcome,andtheglassisfilledasnormal.
Insteadofswitchingcontainersfromaexplicitlydefinedinitialsituation,justdrinkthewaterrepresentativeofthe
newstateandallowittoreplaceinsidewhateveritwillinordertofinditsplace.Thebodyasthevessel,inshort.
Needlesstosay,allofthefeelingandintendingandthinkingandsoforthisnecessary.I'mjustomittingitbecause
thiscommentisjustthat,acomment,notaguide.Thoughperhapsitmightsparknewideasforsomeone.

TriumphantGeorge 170d,19h
Noteasilynoticed...exceptbytheauthor!(Ikeptmyinboxrepliesgoingonthisone.)
Ofcourse,itcanbeadapted.It'saboutanchoringworldstatesandtherearelotsofwaystodoit.Thereasonfor
theinstructionsbeingastheyare,isthatit'simmediatelyintuitivetomostpeopleitdoesn'tneedtobethought
about,andhopefullyitdoesn'treallyoccurtopeopletothinkaboutit.What'simportantisthatyouassign
meaningstotheconfigurationsandtotheact,sothattheyareattachedtothestates.
Youcanevendotheexerciseusingyourimaginationalso!Butthere'sareasontouseexplicit'external'objects
andhavethemdistinctfromyourself.People'sbodyvolumetendstobeamassofmuddledmeanings,andthere
canbeaconfusionaboutwhere"you"arerelativetothesituationandwhatyourepresentduringtheexercise.
Simpleobjectslikeglassesandwater,meanwhile,arerelativelypureintermsoftheir'extendedpatterns',andthe
assignmentofmeaningtendstobemuch'cleaner'.(Althoughyoumightstillnoticesomesynchronicityinvolving
waterfilledreceptaclesandnotionsof'transfer'.)


Thoff95 131d,23h

SomaybeIdon'tfullyunderstandtheexperiment,cansomeonehelpmedeterminewhatisapossiblescenario?
Say,Ihaveschooltoday(theonlydaythisweeksinceThanksgivingiscomingupandI'minUniversity)andIwant
toeliminateschooltoday.IfIlabelledglassA:"SchoolToday"andglassB:"NoSchoolToday"isthataplausible
idea?Iamskepticaloftheidearegardless,butcouldyoudoitforanythingoraretherespecificrulestofollowthat
Iammissing?

TriumphantGeorge 131d,21h
Aguidelineproposedbeforeforthisexercisehasbeen:"foroutcomesthatareplausiblebutperhapsvery
unlikely".Inotherwords,theymustmakelogicalsenseintheworldnodiscontinuitiesagainstthephysical
"habitsoftheworld"butcancorrespondtoveryremotechanceswithinthatboundary.

BLOOD_ASCENSION 218d,23h
areyoupeopleserious?

TriumphantGeorge 218d,23h
It'seasyenoughtofindout,right?
Gotacoupleofglasses?Gotwaterontap?Isthereaspecificsituationrightnowthatyou'dlikeresolvedbutcan't
thinkhow?Thenyou'reallsettotrytheexerciseforyourself.

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BLOOD_ASCENSION 218d,4h
...verywell,Iwill

stupiddog01 156d,22h

anythinghappen?

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Polkadot1017 223d,18h

Canthischangethingsthatinvolvepeopleotherthanyou?IfIwantedarelationship,wouldIput"single"onthe
undesirable,and"partnered"onthedesirable?OrifIwantedtoloseweightwiththis,howwouldthetransition
work?WouldIwakeupandjustbeinshapeifthat'swhatIwanted?Orwoulditstartdroppingweightoverthe
courseofafewdays?

TriumphantGeorge 223d,18h
Yes,youcandothepartnerthing.Anythingwithinyoursubjectiveexperience(whichmeans:everythingreally)is
upforgrabs.Forthisexercise,thenatureoftransitionwilltendtobe"plausible".Themainpointhereisto
demonstratesomethingtoyourself,somethingessentialaboutthenatureofyourexperience.

a_lucille 214d,13h
Question:shouldIcontinuetorevisemydayasNevilleGoddardhassuggestedafterdoingthis,orwouldthatbe
consideredinterfering?

TriumphantGeorge 214d,8h
That'saninterestingquestion,andIguessitdependsalittle.ButingeneralI'dsaygoahead,that'sfine,because
theexerciseaboveshouldinanycaseaboutsituationswhichareabitmoreremotefromyourimmediate
influence.Whenrevisingthedayyouarelookingatthespecificsubjectivesceneswhichunfolded,ratherthanthe
largerworld.Forinstance,revisingthescenewhereyouarguedwithyourbrotherathishouseisn'tgoingtoaffect
thepatternassociatedwiththatbusinessdealinOhioetc.

a_lucille 214d,2h
Soevenifmyfocusofthetwoglassexperimentwasabetterrelationshipwithmybrother,revisionwouldbe
moreofahelpthanhindrance?

TriumphantGeorge 214d,2h
I'msuggestingthatyoudotheexerciseforyourrelationshipwithyourbrother,thenletitplayout(knowingthat
it'ssorted)anddon'tmicrorevisethatrelationship.(Imean,you'dratherjusthaveagoodrelationship,right?)
Insteadsaverevisionfor"coursecorrection"ofthingslikereversingabadmeetingatwork,etc.
Thatwayyouarechangingthesituationasawhole,aswellasproperlydemonstratingtheapproachtoyourself
too.

a_lucille 214d,2h
Oh,okay!Thankyoufortheclarification!

TriumphantGeorge 214d,2h
Noproblemgoodluckandremembertopostyourresults!

MasterClefairy 209d,23h
So,Ididthisexerciselastnight.
Ihadareallyclosefriendyearsback.Wewereextremelycloseandwecaredabouteachotherdeeply.Wegotinto
ahugefight,andthingswereneverthesameagain.Eventhoughwehavebothapologizedtoeachother,weare
nolongerbestfriendslikeweusedtobe.Istillmissourfriendshipandthinkaboutitdaily.
Anyway,Iputlabelsonbothcups.Onethatsaid'closeness'thatonewasemptytheotheronesaid'distant'
thatonewasfull.Itookaminutetocontemplatehowourfriendshipusedtobe,andhowwe'realmoststrangers
now.WhenIpouredthewater,Iwasstrangelystruckbyhowbeautifulthewaterlookedwhenitwashitbylight.I
tookadeepbreath,andfeltmorerelaxed.Afterthat,Iputbothglassesaway.
Nowmyquestionis...doIhavetostopthinkingaboutourlostfriendshipforawhile?DoIkeepmymindasblank
aspossibleforthenextcoupleofdays?

TriumphantGeorge 209d,23h
Nowmyquestionis...doIhavetostopthinkingaboutourlostfriendshipforawhile?DoIkeepmymindas
blankaspossibleforthenextcoupleofdays?
Justknowthatitisalreadydone.Youhaveliterallyupdatedthestateoftheworldbydoingthisexercise,andyou
willencountertheevidenceofthisingoodtime.
Wouldyouthinkaboutsomethingthatwasalreadyadonedeal?No,becausethinkingisforthingswhichare
uncertainorregretful.Passingthoughtsarefine,theyarejustlikelegtwitches.Wouldyouobsessoveraleg
twitch?No,it'sjustapassingdistraction.Sotreatthoughtsaboutthisarealikethatdismissthemwithan"itis
alreadydone!"andcontinuewithwhateveritisyouaredoing.
Asideyoushouldneverdeliberatelyspendtimethinkingaboutanythingunlessitisforthepurposeofinserting
thatthoughtpatternintotheworld,becausethatiswhatyouaredoing.
So,alloftheaboveisthereasonwhythelastinstructionisto"carryonwithyourlife"!

MasterClefairy 209d,21h
Thankyou,thiswasallveryhelpful.However,therewasonethingthingyousaidthatIneedclarification.

Asideyoushouldneverdeliberatelyspendtimethinkingaboutanythingunlessitisforthepurposeof
insertingthatthoughtpatternintotheworld,becausethatiswhatyouaredoing.
I'mnotquitesurewhatyoumeanbythis.AmIcreatingsomeunintentionalrepercussionsbythinking'Iwishwe
wereclosefriendsagain'?
IhopeIcanprovideanupdatenexttimeIpost!

TriumphantGeorge 209d,20h
It'sfineifsuchathoughtarises,justappearsinyourmind,andyouletitpass.Butyoushouldn'tdeliberately
thinkit.Don'tgethunguponthisthough!
Firstofall,whywouldyoudothatanyway?It'sasuperfluousact.Talkingtoyourselflikethatsurelyisn't
healthy.)
Inthisparticularcontextthough,youaremakingadeclarativestatementoffactwhich,byitsnature,activates
theextendedpatternassociatedwithit.Thishappensautomaticallysinceitisrequiredforthestatementto
havemeaning.
Ifyousay"Iwishwewereclosefriendsagain"youareliterallytriggeringtheexperientialpatternof"wishing
youwereclosefriendsagain",whichimpliesthefactofnotbeingclosefriends.Youarepersistingthestateof
"wishing"andof"notbeingclosefriends".
Thiscomplicationiswhytheexerciseisconstructedinthewayitisitavoidsallthisformulationstuffandjust
accessesstatesdirectly,shiftingtheirintensities.
Summary
Statementsarenotjustobservations,theyareassertionswhichtriggerthecorrespondingstate,
intensifyingitscontributiontoyourexperience.
Donotengagewithanythoughtswhicharisethatarecontrarytoyourdesiredstatedon'tfightthemor
explorethem,justletthempass.

MasterClefairy 204d
Hey,sothisprobablymeansnothing,butI'vebeenhavingintensedreamslately.So,we'renotclosefriends
yetbutI'mstillpatientlywaitingtoseeiftheglassesexperimentworked.ButI'vebeenhavingaveryvivid
dreaminwhichmyfriendandIarecloseagain,andwhenIwokeupIwasstillabletoresumethatdreamthe
nexttimeIfellasleep!Andthishappenedtwicealready.Thishasneverhappenedtomebefore.Ialsosawa
largeowlinthatdream.
Sorryforthelacklusterupdate!


TriumphantGeorge 204d

Interesting!Thanksfortheupdate.Hopefullymoretocomeonthat.Yeah,thoseowlsgeteverywhere,once
they'vebeensummoned,agoodsign.

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TriumphantGeorge 195d,14h
Don'tworryabouthowitworksfornow(theshortansweris:theworldisnotreallya"place"),justpickapersonal
situationyou'dlikeresolved,anddotheexercise.Youcanworryabouttheexplanationlater!It'sactuallybetterif
youprovetoyourselfthatitworks,evenwhenyoudon'tknowhowitworks.
Withthisparticularmethod,thingswilltendtohappenin"plausibleifveryunlikely"ways.It'snotlikeyouare
goingtowakeupsomewhereradicallydifferent,etc.Lookatotherpeople'sresultspostsforideasmaybe.

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TriumphantGeorge 195d,6h
Anythingreally,otherpeople,anythingthatispartofyourexperienceoflife,butitforthisdemoitwillalltend
tohappenby"plausibleifunlikely"means.

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TriumphantGeorge 195d,4h
Drinkingisfine,Imightevenincludethatintheinstructions,justtoclearuptheambiguityofwhattodowith
thewaterafterwards.
Yep,justcarryonwithdailylife.Thechangehadalreadybeenmadeyou'llencounterevidenceastime
goesby,sojustwaitandsee.Isuggestthatit'sbettertoletthischangeunfoldandsettlebeforedoing
anotherone.Morethananything,thisexerciseismeanttodemonstratetoyouthatthere's"somethinggoing
on"here.Ifyouchangetoomanythingsatonce,attheveryleastthecauseeffectconnectionisnotgoing
tobeasclear.

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TriumphantGeorge 180d,6h
Youknow,forluciddreamingyoubasicallyjusthavetofullycommittothefactthatyouarealuciddreamer.You
canusesomethinglikethetwoglassestoplaywiththat,butyouneedtothenletitbe(whichyoumightnotfind
soeasyforthis).Alternatively,youcouldtryjustdoingthesparkles/directentryapproachdescribedinDon
Degracia'sOBEguide(http://www.dondeg.com/metaphysics/do_obe.pdf).

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atleastimsober 180d,9h
Questioncanyouchangeapasteventwiththismethod?Itrulybelievethatallevents,possibilities,experiences
toinfinityareconcurrentlyhappening.Thereisasingularitywhereeverythingcomesfrom...everythingthat
could/has/willhappenoneverylevelmacrotomicroisallgoingonatthesametime.We(orI)seemtochooseone
"timestream"toexistin.ItwouldmakesensethatIcould"jump"toadimensionwhereapasteventnever
happenedandmyrealitychangestoreflectthat.

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Urbn_explorer 164d,13h
hasanyoneevertriedthistogotoadimensionwhereadeceasedlovedoneisstillalive?orwouldtheactofdying
removethemfromallrealities?

Aroha11 129d,16h
Actually,ifanyonewouldsucesfullydothat,theywouldprobablynotremember.Theymayhavesomeworrying
dream,buttherewouldbenowayoftelling.


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TriumphantGeorge 160d,7h
Can'ttellyoufrompersonalexperienceexperimentwithitandsee,I'dsay.

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hannahjor 150d,19h
Thismightbeadumbquestion,but,isthissomethingthatwouldworkformultiplethings?SayIhave2thingsI
wanttochange.CouldIdoitonceforonethingandthendoitanothertimefortheother?

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MsSorarity 148d,1h
Arethereanysideeffectsthathappenwhenyoudothis?Suchasimmediateexhaustionordizziness?


TriumphantGeorge 148d

Yep,thosethingscanhappen.Remember,thisisaboutachangeofstateoftheworldandsince"theworld"
alsocontainsyourbody,thenthatispartoftheshift.Yourexperienceislocalandyourintentionhereapplies
globally,butglobalchangescanalsoinvolveimmediatelocalchanges.

asin_ 136d,3h
Nothingoccurred(wellnotnothing)..Maybeididsomethingwrongormystatementwasn'tclearenough?Notmuch
haschangedthough:/

TriumphantGeorge 136d,3h
nothing(wellnotnothing)...notmuchhaschanged
Whatdoesthatmean,moreprecisely?

asin_ 136d,1h
Myfinanciallifehasn'tchangedthewayidirectedforittoobe,intentionally,visually.Maybeineedtocontinue
creating,sometimesijustfeellikegivingupsinceidon'tseetheoccurrenceschanging,butthenagainwhats
thepointofgivingupiftheresnothingtolose.

TriumphantGeorge 136d,1h

Suggestion:maybeinitiallygoforsomethingtangible,aspecificthingorsituation,ratherthansomethingas
abstractasmoney?

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_icemahn 132d,23h
Andhere...we...go.

thealienchild 132d,22h
Ihavetwoquestions:
1.WillthisworkifIwanttomakesomeoneelse'ssituationbetter?
2.Howoftencanonedothis?

TriumphantGeorge 132d,21h

So,thewaytothinkofthisisthatyouareselectingsubjectiveexperiencesforyourself.Andthisofcourse
meansthatyoucanselectexperiencesofotherpeoplechangingandgettingbetter.Typically,I'dallowsome
settlingouttimeaftereachuseoftheexercisecoupleofweeksmaybe.Theoriginalideaoftheexercisewasas
ademonstrationtoshowthatthereis"somethinggoingon",withminimaleffort,soit'sakindof"fireandforget"
approach.Itjustsohappensthatit'sahandytoolalso.

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Aroha11 129d,17h
'IliveinaworldwhereXishealthy'

Circle_Dot 132d,12h
Isthereaparttwo?

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gruelove 130d,17h
Whenyousay,'chooseaspecificsituation...',howspecificisspecificenough?WhatImeanis,Itriedthis
becauseI'mgoingthroughaperiodwhereIfeelreallydowninthedumpsandalmostlikenothingevergoesquite
rightinlife,soIchosethewordsmisfortuneandgoodfortune.Isthistoovague,orwillitstillhaveaneffect?

TriumphantGeorge 130d,4h
Itsaysthatbecausetheideaisthatthisisa"demonstration"exercise,andsoifthesituationisfairlyspecific,
it'seasiertodecidewhethertherewasaresult(toshow"there'ssomethinggoingon").There'snoactual
restrictiononwhatyoucanchoose,though.

Katsuya_Senchou 71d,6h
I'dbehappyifsomebodyhelpedme,Somyp.c.IsbrokenandIwantitrepaired.SowhatworddoIuseto
summarizemysituation?AmIallowedtousemultiplewords?Ithoughtaboutgoingwith"pcbroken".I'd
appreciateanydirections.(Mypcbasicallysuffersfrom"Harddiskfailure")

TriumphantGeorge 71d,4h
Thewordcomesfromyourowncontemplationofthesituation.Youthinkaboutthesituations,andaskyourself
whatwordsbestcapturesthose,feelappropriate,andthenusethem.Thisisnotabout"sendingamessageto
theuniverse",soit'snotaboutwritingadescriptionofwhatyouwant(liketoSantaClaus,spoilers:Santaisnot
quitereal).Rather,thewordsare"handles"ontothesituationalpatternsthataredissolvedintothebackground
rightnow.

petrus4 232d,1h
PossibledimensionsIcouldseemyselfusingthistojumpto.
Adimensionwithoutmobilephones.Thiswouldbemymainpriority.Atthispointitisn'tsomuchthatIwant
togetridofmobilephones,asmuchasI'dliketogotoafewdimensionswithoutthem,purelyinorderto
seewhetherornotsocietyreallyneedsthem.
AdimensionwithoutGoogle.Wedon'tneedGoogle,becausesearchenginesexistedbeforeitdid,andI
considerGooglemegalomaniacalandundesirable.Truthfullyadimensionwithoutcorporationsmoreorless
ingeneralwouldbenice.Icouldlivewithbuildingmyowntransistorbasedcomputerifyouuse
breadboardsorsimilarinsteadofPCBs,itisn'tallthathard.

Adimensionwithouttranshumanism.Thiswouldalsorequirelargechunksofthetwentiethcentury's
predictiveprogrammingsciencefictiontoceasetoexist.
AdimensionwhereeitherHellenicpolytheismorHinduismaretheglobalmajorityreligions.
Adimensionwherethenaturalenvironmentisinmuchbettershape,andisactuallyvaluedbythemajority.

TriumphantGeorge 232d
Hmm.Well,theexerciseinthispostisreallyaboutshiftingspecificpersonalsituationsinyourcurrentworld
pattern.Whichisnottosayyouwon'tgetaresultifyouusebroaderterms,buttheeffectsmaynotbequitewhat
youhadinmind...
Haveyoulookeduppersistentrealms(http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/hyu/persistentrealmsotherlucid
dreamingtechniquesiuse39218/)?Ifyoujustwantaquicklookseeofwhatdramaticalternativeswouldbelike,
withoutdisconnectingpermanently,that'sthewaytodoit.
Interestedthough:yourlistseemstobefairlycountertechnology.What'sthethinkingbehindthat?

trial_and_error5 204d,20h
I'mdefinitelyinterestedinthepersistentrealmslink,butitdoesn'tseemtobeworkingforme.

TriumphantGeorge 204d,20h
Hmm,justclickedandit'sworkingforme.Whatareyougetting?

trial_and_error5 204d,20h
Thepagedoesn'tload.Maybeitdoesn'tworkonmyphone.

TriumphantGeorge 204d,20h
That'sprobablyitit'saforumpostontheDreamViewswebsite.Worksonmytabletanddesktop,haven't
trieditonmobilebuttheformattingisquitecrazysoitprobablywouldn'tplaynicely.Itbegins:

Whatisapersistentrealm?
It'satermIusetodescribecertainkindsofdreamsIhave.Dreamsthatarepersistent,meaningwhere
youractionshaveconsequences,dreamsyoucanresumeeachnightwhereyouleftoff.
SowhydoIcallthem"realms"?Well,formethesekindsofdreamsareabitmorethanjustpersistent.
Thereareafewmoreuniquecharacteristicstothem:
PersistenceWhenyou"enter"arealm,you"resume"thedreamwhereyouleftoflasttime.(moreor
less)
ConsequencesBecauseofthepersistence,everyactionyoutakehasconsequences.Ifyouchange
somethingitwillremainchangedforever.Forexample,peoplewillrememberyouandthe
conversationsyou'vehadwiththem.
Laws&DreamPowersArealmhasasetoflawsofphysics(fittingthesettingoftherealm),which
maybedifferentfromwakinglife.Theremaybewaystocastmagicforexample.Youcanlearn,
understand,use(andabuse)theselaws,butyoucanneverdoanythingthatviolatesthem.(Suchas
usingdreampowers)Ifacharacterdoessomethingridiculousthenitmeansthatthereisalaw
enablinghimtodoso,andyoumostlikelycanlearntodothesamething.
RealismThosedreamsfeelprettydamnreal.Iassumethemainreasonbehindthis(besidesthe
techniqueIuse)isthatalldreamcharactersareintelligent.Youwon'tencounterthetypical"derpy"DC
whoseemscompletelylost.DC'sareintelligentandfollowtheirownagenda.Theiractionscanbe
completelyunexpected.
Itthencontinuesatlength.You'llfindaniceoverlapbetweentheposter'sideasforcreatingrealmsand
experiences,andsomeoftheapproacheswediscusshere.Whichmakessenseofcourse:thisworldisan
immersive,persistentrealmtoo.

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Croscoe 226d,14h
SoIdidthisexercise2daysago,isthissimilartocastingasigil?Iusetotrycastingsigilsafewmonthsagoand
noneofthemworked:(

TriumphantGeorge 226d,4h
Onlyinthesensethatitattachesmeaningtosensoryobjects,butofcoursethere'sacommonalitytoallthese
sortsofthings.
Ifsigilsdidn'twork,canIask:didyouplaywiththesituationmentallyatallafteryouhadcastthesigil?


Croscoe 225d,20h

Ididplaywiththemmentallyinaway.Iwasveryopenmindedforhowthethingswouldcomeabouthappening,
andIcouldseepossibleroutesforthethingsoccurringeverywhere,butnoneofthemreallycameabout.

TriumphantGeorge 225d,20h
Really,youshouldleavethemalone.Onceyou'vedonetheact,simplygetonwithyourlifeknowingthatthe
workisdoneandit'llshowup.
Youshouldthinkofyourthoughtsasliterallypullingandpushingontheworld.Andunfortunately,ifyoustart
pullingupthat"part"andthinkingaboutdifferentroutesandevenhavingdoubts,youarepotentiallyreshaping
thatpartaccordingly.
That'slikehavingspontaneouslycreatedaschedulebyintention(albeitoneyoucan'tsee)andthenkeeping
changingyourmindonwhatyouwantandhowyouwantit,sothattheschedulekeepsrevisingitself.

Croscoe 225d,20h
Yea,Ithinkit'sverypossiblethatwhateverIwasthinkingaboutatthetimecouldhaveinterferedwithit
happening,howeverIneverreallydidmuchobsessingoveranyofthem,butIwasprettycuriousofhowthey
wouldplayout.Weirdlyenough,oneofthemwastobegivenabitofcash,(Ican'trememberhowmuchit
was,Ithinkitwaslikeaspecificamountlike$30)butitdidn'thappenforlikeamonthsoIcompletelyforgot
aboutit.Ialsodon'tthinkabouttheothersanymorehaha,soitwouldbeniceiftheycameabouthappening

TriumphantGeorge 225d,20h
Heh,wellyouknowI'mjusttheorisingofcoursewithoutknowingtheactualsituationthere.
Oneproblemisthateveryintentionalactisaworldchangingmagicalact.Lotsofpeopleareactuallyjust
spontaneousintheirdailylife,theydon't"interfere"withitmuch(don'tevenknowtheycould),andsothe
occasionalinterventiontakeseffectandthendoesn'tgetundone.
Meanwhile,othersironically,oftenthosewhoareinterestedinthetopicandpursuingitdeliberatelyare
constantlyunwittingly"redirecting"themselves,wrestlingwiththeirworld.Sotheyfireofasigilorwhatever,
butdon'trealisetheyareeffectivelydoingconstant"resigilising"throughtheirworldfocusedthinking
process.
WhichiswhyIthinkit'sabenefittoeveryonetopracticeadailyreleasingexercise,andthen"stop
generating".Learninghowto,say,standupfromachairwithoutdoinganything.Itteachesyouhowto
intendastatechangeonlywhendesired.


Croscoe 225d,19h
Yup,thesecondonecouldbeme:P

I'vegottenprettyintothisstuffoverthelastfewmonths,(actuallylearnedalotfromstuffyouhave
contributed)soIcouldbegettinginmyownwayunknowingly,butI'malwayswillingtokeeptryingstuff
becausethiswholethinggoingonisfascinatingtome.
I'meagertoseethatfollowuppostonthisexperiment!I'mcuriousaboutmoreofhowthisexperiment
works.

TriumphantGeorge 225d,19h

Yeah,itcanbedifficultbecauseyouwanttodosomethingtomakethingshappenfeelsomesortof
mentalorphysicaleffortgoingon.Butthat'sjusttheintentionalgenerationoftheexperienceofeffortit
hasnothingtodowithmakingthedesiredchanges!
HopefullyI'llhavetimethisweekendtositdownatadeskandbashoutthesecondpart.Theideaisthatit
willlinktheexperiment(whichamountstoritualreally)tothelargerviewofpatternsandmeaningand
metaphorandsoon.

Croscoe 225d,19h
Iassumemeditationcountsasareleasingexerciseright?(IdomindfulnessmeditationsometimeswhereI
justfocusonmybreathandwatchmythoughtswithouttrying),somaybeIshouldtrytomakethatadaily
thing,butit'shardcuzIthinkI'maddictedtostimulationhaha.

TriumphantGeorge 225d,19h

Well,meditationcanbegood,butreallyI'dpracticethis:liedownonthefloorintheconstructiverest
position(http://orenepstein.com/wpcontent/uploads/2010/11/semisupine.jpg)(kneesup,feetflat,books
supportingthehead)andplaydead.Letgoofcontrollingyourbody,yourmindbutmostimportantly:your
attention.Letthemshiftandmoveandunwindastheywant.Wheneveryoufindyourselfholdingontoyour
focusagain,ceasetodoso.Inotherwords:"stopgenerating"andallowthepatternofexperiencetoflow
asitwants.

Croscoe 225d,18h

Interesting,alright.Anyreasonwhythatparticularposition?

TriumphantGeorge 225d,18h

Itcorrespondstoanidealbalancedposturenoresidualmusculareffortrequiredtomaintainit,fully
supported.It'sprettymuchtheonlywaytohaveyourneckmusclesrelease.(Andithastobethefloor
really,oraverysturdymat,definitelynotabed.)

You'llfeelitwhenyoudoit.There'sinitialdiscomfortbecauseyouareresidually"holdingyourselfinthe
air"butwhenthatsettlesoutitcanbesuperrelaxing.(10minutes,twiceaday,orwheneveryouare
stressed.)


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Silentswiftly 226d
Sofar,Ihaven'tseenresultswiththismethodbutithasonlybeenaboutaweek.I'mnotsayingthatthismethod
doesn'twork,itcouldbesomethingI'mdoingwrong.
Ipurposelymademy"replacementsituations"VERYambitious.Example...I'vebeenworkingoutforyearsbut
desiretobeabitmoremuscular,sothatwasonethingIaskedfor.It'sfunnybecauseifanything,IseemLESS
muscular.
I'dalsoliketomentionthatit'slikelyIstillhaveresistancetochange.I'mbasicallyatthepointwhereIknow
somethingisupbutcan'tcontrolmy"dream"yet.LiterallyalmosteveryoneIknowhaschangedsince"jumping",
heckevenasquirrelfelloutofatreeaftermyfriendspecificallysaiditwouldneverhappen,lmao.ButIstilldon't
feelthatIhavetheabilityto"justdecide"yet.

TriumphantGeorge 226d
Ah,it'sinterestingwhatpeoplechooseasthesituation!
So,ambitiousisfine,althoughbecausethisparticularexperimentdoesn'tforceanything,yourresultwillhappen
by"plausibleifunlikely"routes.Inotherwords,therewillarise"apparentlyreasonableexcuses"forwhatyouto
getwhatyouwant.Anyway,thisisaninterestingonetowatchhappen.
Yeah,the"somethingisup"periodisfascinating.There'sstilltheurgetotryandmakethingshappenby
somehowdoingthemlikeyoucanuseyourmusculartensionoreffortfulfrowntoassistyou.Youknow
somethingisgoingonbutit'sstillnotclearhow,exactly.Theremaybeasquirrelortwotogo...

Silentswiftly 225d,23h
Hahayes,themuscularonewillbeinterestingtoseehappen.However,mypouringintothe"Billionaire"cupwill
beevenmoreinterestingtowatchunfold)EspeciallybecauseI'maprogrammerwhomakesapps,which
makesitcompletelywithintherealmofpossibilitythatithappens.
Ihaveatheoreticalsituationforyou.Sayaregular,ordinarypersonwith0knowledgeofoneirosophy/DJ/insert
metaphorfindsyourpostandperformsthisexperiment.Areyouconfidentthattheywillachievetheir
replacementsituation?Orisitrequiredforonetoknowatleast"somethingisup"beforegettingresults?

TriumphantGeorge 225d,22h
TheoreticalSituation
Theygetthebestresults!Everyoneelsewhothinkstheyhavesomeknowledgeof"howitallworks"subtly
triestomanipulatethemselves,orhelpitalong,orworkoutwhat'sreallyhappening.
ThisisoneofthereasonsIcameupwiththatparticularformulation:it'snotsoeasytomakesenseofit,even
ifyouhavethoughtaboutthisstuffbefore,unlessyou'vebeenponderingrawpattern/meaningactivation.
Ofcourse,onceyouknowtheunderlying,youcangodirectlyforit,butitrequiresalevelofbloody
mindedness.Justasyoucan't"sorta,maybe"liftyourarm,youhavetofollowthroughandnotreedittheworld
beforeithappens,soitiswiththis.Youareinteractingwiththeworlddirectly.
TheBillionaire'sCup[1]
Hmm.Beingintoprogrammingandcreativestuffisgood,justintermsofallowingthingstohappen,because
opportunitiescancomefromnowhereandstillbeplausible.Mostpeoplefindthateasierthangettingthat
inheritancefromalonglostuncleorwhatever.Eventhough,ofcourse,everyonehasapotentiallonglost
unclethey'vejustnotcalledhimintoexperienceyet...
[1]Choosewisely.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI)

Silentswiftly 224d,22h
Thanksfortheinsightfulpost.
I'veseenyoumentionmultipletimesthatonereasonfor"detachandwait"methodsfailingisbyaccidentally
modifyingtheworldbacktoit'soriginalstate.Let'ssayoneisscrewingaboutandthisphenomenonoccurs.
Doesonereperformtheexperimentandwaitorsimplyplacetheirfaithbackintotheoriginalexperiment?I
wouldguessthatthelatterwouldbeenoughtowork,sinceitistheintentionthatmattersright?

TriumphantGeorge 224d,22h
Yousimplyneedtodosomethingwhichmeansthatyouhavereturned(arereturning)yourworldpatternto
thedesiredstate.
Youcanreperformtheexperiment,orperhapsmentallyrecallthefinalstateoftheexperimentandthe
feelingyouhad,orjustsuperimpose"RELOAD"(http://www.geekygadgets.com/wp
content/uploads/2009/02/timecrisistrikeiphone_4.jpg)overthescenebeforeyouwiththeintentionthatyou
areloadingupthestateagain.
Butthisisonlyaproblemif,afterrealisingwhatyou'vebeendoing,youthinkthatyou'veundoneit.
Thewhole"faith"thingisaboutrealisingthatsincechangesaredirectandimmediate,creationis"already
done"atthatmoment.It'sdefinitelybestyoucancommitandsostoptinkeringtheexerciseinthepostis
meanttoavoidthatcrossingyourmind(becauseyouprobablydon'thaveaccesstothepatternanyway).


Silentswiftly 224d,22h

Iunderstandthatchangesare"directandimmediate",butwhatistheamountoftimetakentosee
changesindicativeof?Haveyoufoundthroughyourtrialsthatapersonslevelof"resistance"canmake
experimentssuchasthisonetakelongerforthepatternstobecomenoticeable?Asin,coulditpossibly
takedecades?
IguesswhatIamaskinginsimplertermsisthattheoreticallyifTriumphantGeorgehimselfweretoperform
thisexactexperimentandaskforsomethingnontrivial(money,fame,power),doesitrevealitselfnear
immediately?ThisissomethingthatI'vebeenstrugglingtounderstandlately.Ifthetimetakentosee
changesisrelativelyunpredictableforevenwellversedfolkssuchasyourself,thismethodwouldseem
muchlesspowerfulincomparisontotheimmediate"asserting"methods.

TriumphantGeorge 224d,21h
thismethodwouldseemmuchlesspowerfulincomparisontotheimmediate"asserting"methods.

Completelyright!
Theoriginofthisexerciseispurelytogetpeopletowitnessaresultwithzeroeffortorinterestatallyou
don'tneedtocommitto"jumping"oranyothermetaphor.
Althoughthepatternofchangeisimplementedimmediatelyhereasalways,itisoverlaiduponwhatever
otherpatternshavealreadybeenaccumulated,soyouwillseeitonlywhenthecontextallowsitto"shine
through",asitwere.Youaren'tgrippingtheworldinthesamewayasyoudowithothermethods.
Whereitsadvantagelies(apartfromnotneedinganypracticeatall)isthathavingdonethis,yougain
directknowledgeofhowyourentireexperienceandeveryintentionalactyouperformworksthesameway.
Yourealisethereisnotechnique.It'ssimplyamatterofhowspecificandstrongtheintentionandnotre
intendingsubsequently.
Ifbysimplypouringsomewaterwhilesimultaneouslysummoningthepatternofastateyoucanbringit
about,itmakesyourealise:a)howpowerfulyouarespecificallyand,b)howcautiousyoushouldbe
generally.

Silentswiftly 224d,21h

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TriumphantGeorge 224d,1h

Personally,Iwouldnotthinkintermsof"dimensions"exceptasapowerfulmetaphorasin,ifyourexperience
shiftsdramaticallyitisequivalenttobeinginadifferent"dimension".Youwillneverhaveanyexperienceoutside
of"yourreality",soanychangethathappensisbasicallyamodificationofthat.
Thisparticularexerciseshouldbethoughtofasawaytochangeasituationinyourlifewithouthavingtoget
boggeddowninanytheory!

Rootbeer128 223d,23h
Itriedthis,andIfeelachange,but...
Oneoftheglasses(theonewiththenegativesituation)leakedfrombottomandnearthetop,asIwaspouring.
Thereappearstobenocutorfractureintheglass...Weird...
Ihaven'tnoticedthechangebecausethesituationthatcausesithasn'tappeared,butIbelievethisworked.
Thanksforposting,OP.

TriumphantGeorge 223d,22h
Thanksforreportingbackbesuretopostupdates!

Rootbeer128 223d,21h
Itmighttakeaweekforachangetobenoticeable,duetothenatureofmysituation,butifthingshave
improved,thenI'lldefinitelynoticebynextSaturday.I'llreportbackthen.

stupiddog01 156d,21h

didyoursituationimprove?

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maxw94 221d,21h
Itcantakesometime,formeithappened,whenIhadalmostforgotaboutit,especiallyifyouthink"Whendoes
itfinallyhappen?""Willthisactuallyhappen?"youputobstaclesintoyourway

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TriumphantGeorge 221d,7h
Andbearinmindthatthisparticularexerciseisdeliberatelybroadinthatitdoesn'trequireaworldvieworbeing
detailed.It'sparticularlygoodforspecificpersonalsituations,butitwillgenerateresultsofsomesortfor
anything.Typicallytheywillariseintermsof"plausiblebutveryunlikely"occurrences.
Moredirectapproachesareavailable(seestickypost
(/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/38c3yk/how_to_jump_between_dimensions/)).

singularity_pet 221d,4h
butitwillgenerateresultsofsomesort
Couldyoupleaseexplainwhatmakesyousosure?
Whathappens,forexample,ifwetrytheritualonaninfinitelyimprobablegoal?

TriumphantGeorge 221d,4h
Whatyou'redoingwithanyapproachisactivatingaparticularpatternthatisoverlaidoverallexperience
whichthenappearsto"shinethrough"wheneveranappropriatecontextarises.Themorespecificyouare,
thenarrowerthecontext.However,you'llalwaysseeaspectsoftheextendedpatternyou'vetriggered
arising.
SeeTheOwls(/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/3du9dh/synctv_the_owls_of_eternity/)foranexampleof
this.Thishighlightshowtheprocessis"dumb"andautomatic.

singularity_pet 220d,20h
SeeTheOwlsforanexampleofthis.
Mostlytheowlisn'tanywheretobeseen,butwhereveranappropriatecontextarisesthenaspectsof
theowlideashinethroughandaremanifest:Amanhasanowlimageonatshirt,thewomaninthe
shophasmassiveeyesandeyebrowslikefeathers,afriendsendsyouanemailaboutalectureat
thezoohighlightingtheowlenclosure,anewspaperreviewofBladeRunnertalksextensivelyabout
themechanicalowlintheinterrogationscene,andsoon.
Ok,so"itwillwork"doesnotmean"itwillmanifestX",but"itwillmanifestsignsandsynchronicitiesabout
X(someofwhichcouldhelptheactualrealizationofX)"?

Ifthisistherightinterpretation,thenItoocansaythatthemethodsomewhatworked...
Inthelasttendays,aftertheritual,I'veexperiencedsomestrangecoincidencesaboutthetarget,butno
signsofanimpendingmanifestationyet.

TriumphantGeorge 220d,20h

Itdoesmeanitwillmanifestbutmanifestationworksbypatternactivation.
That'swhyyoutendtoseerelatedsynchronicitybeforeandafter.There'sactuallynofundamental
differencebetween,say,apictureofanowlonawall,anda"real"owlinmyroomtheyarebothimages,
sounds,texturefloatinginconsciousexperiencetheyarejustdifferent"shapes".
Sowaitandsee!
However,ifyoulaterfeelyouhavebeendoingthisdemoexerciseforsomethingprettyimplausible,and
thatthepatternhasn'tpersistedbecauseitdidn'tshinethroughincontext,youcanbemoredirectaboutit.
Butgiveitsometime.(Rememberthatthisisazerocommitment,zerobeliefdemonstrationexercise
really.Althoughtheresultscanbedramaticallthesame.)

maxw94 221d,18h
OfcourseIunderstandyou,atthebeginningIwasimpatienttoo:)Ihopethiscanhelpyoutogetridofyour
ocdsomeday

thatgirlspeaks 220d,18h
Isitpossibletohaveeffectsthatresultinotherpeopleleavingyourlife?Oristhisexerciselimitedtopurely
personalsituationswherecontrollingwherethepeopleinyourlifegoisoutofbounds?
ThereasonI'maskingisI'mhopingtodothistohavemyinlawswanttoleaveourhouseandgobacktotheir
homecountry.

TriumphantGeorge 220d,18h
Therearenorestrictionshere,onlychoices.Forthepurposesofthis,thinkofyourselfashavingyourown
"privateview"oftheworld.Youcanhaveanyexperienceyouwantinyourprivateview,sinceit'syour"personal
slice"oftheinfinitegloop.Nobodycanstopit.Anythingcanhappen.
Goforit.


thatgirlspeaks 220d,18h

Awesome,Ifiguredthat'swhatitmightbebutjustwantedtodoublecheck.Thanks!I'llletyouknowifitworks
out.I'mgoingtotryitrightnow.

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TriumphantGeorge 219d,7h
Itcanbeanyreceptacleifthat'sallthatisavailablebutit'sniceiftheyaretransparent,sinceyoucanproperly
observethewaterinitsinitiallocation,andseethepouringtakingplace.
Soifyoudon'thaveglasses,acoupleofplasticcups(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mdKOTwsKNBO
FDuwJpC9Ig.jpg)fromacoffeeshoporwhateverdoesjustaswell.

lunalj 217d,18h
Mygoalwastogetoffthewaitlistforuniversity.ItriedthisafewweeksagobutIhaven'tseenresults
unfortunately.AdmittedlyIdidn'tfollowthestepsthoroughly(Iforgottofeelrelievedattheend,Ididn'ttapethe
labelsonthecupcuzIdidn'thavetape,placedtheminfrontinstead)butI'mwillingtogiveitanothertry.Ihave
untilthe8thforananswerfromadmissions...
Also,Itriedtheowlthingafewweeksback.Isawliketwoowlsontheinternet.Iwanttotrythisagainandseeifit
works.

thatgirlspeaks 215d,22h
Willthewaterspillinghaveaneffectontheresult?
TheglassthatIwasusingtopourthewaterspilledabitwhenIwaspouringintotheotherglass.Therimisround
withnospoutsothewaterjustkindofrandowntheglassanddrippedoffthebase.Notalotofwater,butitwasn't
alittleeither.
ShouldItryagainusingamoresquareglass?

TriumphantGeorge 215d,21h
Ifyoufeelyou'veleftyourselfwithdoubtifyoudon'tfeelsatisfiedthenyoucanrepeatit,justsothatyoucan
comfortablyfeelthatyoucompletedit,andmoveon.


thatgirlspeaks 215d,21h


Okay,thanks!I'lltryagainbecauseIfeellikeIdidn'tdoitright.

TriumphantGeorge 215d,21h
Yep,goodstuff.Asitsaysintheinstructions,youwanttobeabletoallowyourselftotakeabreathandfeel
relievedattheendandthenyoucanjustmoveon(becauseyou'vealreadymadethechange).

Faeyrin_ 215d,7h
IdrankdeeplyofthetallglassIused,sodeepitwasonechugandmyphysicalthirstisquenched.Ifeelthisis
good.
Worthnoting,maybe?Theseriesoflinksthattookmetothisthreadcoincidedwithafewearringings.Twointhe
left,oneintheright.Idon'tknowifanyofyouareawareofthesignificancethatearringingholdsintheoccult,but
eitherway,thoughtI'dsayso.
Iaminterestedtoseetheresult.

TriumphantGeorge 215d,7h
Interesting.Whatmattersisthesignificancethesethingshaveforyou,really.Butitsoundslikepartofalarger
narrative.Lookingforwardtoyourresults!

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silascade 213d,18h
Isomehowgotitintomyheadthatyousaidyoucouldwritea"wordorphrase"onthelabels,soIwroteaphrase.
Didtheexperimentlastnight,andImaybealreadyseeingresults,butit'stoosoontosayforsure.

TriumphantGeorge 213d,17h
soIwroteaphrase
That'sfine.Isay"word"intheinstructionstopreventpeoplewritingextendeddescriptions,ratherthancallingup
theessenceofit.Theefforttoencapsulateithelps,sinceitcorrespondstoidentifyingandaccessingit.Things
tendtohappenprettyquick(infact,theunderlyingchangetotheworldoccursuponcompletionoftheexercise).
Howsoonyouencountertheevidenceofthatobviouslydependsontheparticularsituation.

Lookforwardtohearingyourresultsoncethey'rein.

silascade 172d,1h
Well,Igotmyresults,andyourdescriptionof"unlikelybutnotimplausible"isveryapt.
IusedtheTwoGlassestotryandchangeanunexplainable,yetnonlifethreatening,healthissuethatmywife
hasbeenexperiencingforayearortwo.Incredibly,atreatmentrouteappearedwithintwoweeks,andit'sbeen
workingbeautifully.
ThankyouTG!

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silascade 212d,15h
Thanksfortheclarification!Onarelatednote,ifIwantedtodotheexerciseagain,isitbettertowaituntilthe
resultsfromthefirstoneare"settled"?

TriumphantGeorge 212d,8h
Forthis,I'dtendtodoonethingatatime,butthere'snorestrictionreally.

singularity_pet 213d,4h
Canwewriteaspecificdeliverydateunderthelabelofthedesiredsituation?
...ortheripplesintheoceanofpatternsaretoochaoticforsuchalevelofprecision?

TriumphantGeorge 213d,3h
Thereareprobablybetterwaysifyouwanttobemoretargeted(thisdemonstrationexerciseisdeliberateinits
strippeddownelements)buttheprocessitselfdoesn'tlimityouinthis.


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CosmiChris 204d,23h

Ihaveafamilymemberwhodrinkstoomuchanditsnegativelyaffectingmydesiretobearoundhim.Isthisact
applicabletosuchasituation?Whatistheimplicationofanother'sfreewillhere?

TriumphantGeorge 204d,23h
Yes,thatisasuitablesituation.Thefreewilldiscussionissomewhattangled,buttrustmethatyoudon'tneedto
worryabout.Itallworksout.
Asaneasywaytothinkaboutthings:considerthistobe"yourcopyoftheworld".Wouldn'tyouwanttomakeit
thebestworlditcanbe,witheveryoneinitbecomingthebestversionofwhattheycanbe?Anyactionwhich
supportsthatoutcomeisamorallygoodone,andyourintentionsoundslikeitfitsinnicely.
Somaybethinkofthe"endsituation"asbeingonewherethefamilymemberissoberandalsomuchhappierasa
result.Thatwayeveryonebenefits.

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TriumphantGeorge 200d,6h
Youcoulddrinkitifitfeelsrighttodoso,symbolically.
Since,partofthepointofthisistoprovethere's"somethinggoingon",I'dtakeonparticularsituationandletit
playoutcompletely,untilyouknowitisdone.(Thingtakeawhiletosettle.)Thenarmedwiththeknowledge
you'vegained,youcanchoosehowyoumanageitfromthenon.

FangOfDrknss 192d,22h
Doesitreallyhavetobeglassware?Orcanitbesomethinglikeplasticcups?Fromthelooksofit,theideaisto
usethematerialsasasortoffocus.

TriumphantGeorge 192d,22h

Theexactmaterialisn'timportant,butit'sbetterifwhateveryouuseistransparent.

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