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5/5/08

NIKHIL
arudh lagan,UL,atmakarak relationships
Shatyamsa chart is the most important chart as per varahmira.
as per various learned people ,He used to predict a lot on the basis
of shatyamsa chart and the corresponding moola dasha.
There are many raj yogs mentioned in the brihat jataka which are
practically impossible under current astronomical senario as in those raj yogs
Mercury and venus are placed 3-4 rashi's away from the sun.
we know that.....
Mercury cannot go beyond 28 degree from the sun, venus cannot go
beyond 47 degree with respect to sun.
No concrete reason has been given anywhere that why such practically
impossible raj yogs are mentioned in various texts including brihat
jataka.(In these raj yogs sun ,mercury and venus are assumed 3-4
rashi away from each other)

5/5/08

NIKHIL
for all..
The fact of the matter is,those practically impossible raj yogs are
given as per shatyamsa chart and we started applying those
conditions in lagan chart.Various texts mentioning this very fact
were either destroyed or are lost.

5/5/08

NIKHIL
for all..
To attain the final destination of God's abode,there has to be a
strong link between the arudh lagan and the charaatmakarak of the
native in the shatyamsa chart(d-60).
Since arudh lagan is the house which signify the vision of the
world on our materialistic or illisionary acheivements(just opposite
to the spritualistic acheivements).Hence all our acheivements can be
seen from arudh lagan, for this reason only 2nd,7th,9th,10,11th
houses from arudh lagan are of utmost importance.
When the charaatmakarak is placed in the said arudh lagan, it
clearly shows that native has not forgetten his real purpose of
human life.In other words this native would remain connected to his
true self(way to god)inspite of living in an illiusionary world
(always in a state of change) and destructible world.

5/5/08

NIKHIL
for all..
If this atmakark goes exalted or swarshi or mooltrikond in an AL
with no ashubh prabhav in shatyamsa chart, It will tremendously add
to the strength of AL.This would show that native not only truly
connects with the actual purpose of life that is enlightenment but
at the same time also has the ability to guide others on this very
sacred path of life.

5/5/08

NIKHIL
for all..
If atmakark and AL are placed in the same house...
It would reflect that our connection with our true self is
possible if we are in line with the significations of that house in
the shatyamsa chart.
AL with the AL7 would mean that there would be symphony in the
married life as the final motive of both husband and wife are same.
Unless there is some melefic influence of some functional melefic
in that house.
Same could be derived from the relationship of UL and AL
Realtionship between natives atmakark with (UL,AL7) is extremely
important for the stability of the married life.
It would straightaway signify the trwmendous bondage of the two souls.
If atmakark , UL and AL7(dara pad) and AL are in same house, it would signify that
husband and wife will have a same wavelength, same motive ,same thinking
...hence very nice compatibility.

5/5/08

NIKHIL
for all..
Since atmakark represent our true self which may not be exactly
known to us, unless we meditate in the right direction or unless
we are aware of the actual purpose of our life.(to attain god)
What we perceive ourself is our lagan in shatyamsa and this
perception could be different from what atmakark has to say.
generally we tend to perceive ourselves as world look at us.
If our acheivements are appreciated only then we beileive that
yes we are something...only few people have the tremendous self
esteem which make them beileve themselves in tne difficult
circumstance or in other words if Arudh lagan goes weak(perception

of the people based on our failures) and lagan is strong then self
esteem of the person will remain intact.

5/5/08

NIKHIL
for all..
But to know the actual purpose of our lives there has to be a
strong connection between our lagan and atmakark...more so to show
your actual self(good or bad will depend on the strength of the
planets involved) to this world there has to be a strong connection
between our atmakark and arudh lagan.
We can say that arudh lagan actually reflects our acheivements
that are visible in front of the world(hence also our failures)but
whether that acheivement is towards the fullfilment of the
worldly desires or attaining god will depend on the relationship of
atmakrak with AL.

5/6/08

NIKHIL
for all...
we need to understand that atmakark is our true knowledge.
Arudh lagan is the output of our actions which are visible to the world.
If we want that our true knowledge( which is only one ,how to attain god) to be visible in
front of the world, it would require few conditions to be satisfied.
1) we ourselves should be aware of the true knowledge ,only then we can make it visible
in front of the world( to make other follow the same path of spritualism)
means lagan and laganesh[ourselves] should have a strong connection atmakark(true
knowledge).
2) Then We(lagan) should have a strong connection with our AL(visible to others or our
final output).
Otherwise we cannot express and present that knowledge in front of the world.

or the above two senarios would be taken care of ...if atamakarak has a very strong link
with arudh lagan directly.

5/6/08

NIKHIL
for all..
If our true knowledge of atmakarak is visible in front of the materialistic or illusionary
world, it would also mean that the native is able to connect himself with god inspite of all
materialistic successes or failures.(connection would further improve with the presence of
atmakark)
Since arudh lagan in shatyamsa or lagan chart is the "risen one" or " Visible part" it
actually means
something deep....
Take an example ...
You are well prepared for your IAS exams or engg exams or CA exams or NDA exams or
MBBS exams.....
Being well prepared depends on your lagan and laganesh of (shatyamsa chart and lagan
chart) but your rank or marks in the final result would decide your destiny in the
materialistic world(GOOD JOB)or the world will judge you according to your results.
similarly...
AL is just like result of Lagan in (shatyamsa and lagan charts), you may be good but are
you that much good in front of the world.?

5/6/08

NIKHIL
for all..
Only connection between Atmakark, AL,UL, AL7,Lagan, Laganesh is not enough.
Their connection should not have melefic influences or the planets involved in the houses
concerned should be in strength(rashi wise, navamsa wise,aspects wise, conjuctions wise
etc etc)
Actually when atmakarak connects with lagan,laganesh or AL, The native can very well

connect his karm with his true self.He executes his karm by getting fully involved in it.
or in other words the native works with a pure soul and we know that when a person do
something(with his soul in it), the output would be perfect.
Apart from the perfection in his kamas or action, the native extraordinarily rise in the
path of spritualism.

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5/8/08

NIKHIL
for all..
Drawing Arudha chart was a very useful tool in ancient times.
since the use of arudhas is very conclusive.
for example..
Though the 2nd house is supposed to show money, it actually shows
one's sustenance and nourishment[Through Family,money, food etc] and we should not
link it with actual money as defined in the texts.
Arudh of 2nd that is dhan pad shows how world perceive our
Nourishment and sustainence.
We may be projecting(dhan pad)in front of the world that we are very
rich but there is a huge possibility that its a mere show off.
Therefore more than the 2nd house from lagan and its arudh, to see
the money aspect we must focus on the 2nd from AL.
Also 2nd house from any house is the actual strength of the previous house.
thats why they are termed as panaphar houses.(2nd,5th,8th and 11th)
Thats why 2nd house from AL has lot of importance as per parashar.
since 2nd from AL will show the actual status of our Bank balance.
It happens that a person has very very deep pockets(acounts in swiz banks and all those
stuff) but in front of the world, he is common buisness man with nominal earnings.
In these cases Arudh of 2nd house(also called as dhan pad) goes weak[since the world is

not aware abt his black money] but 2nd house from arudh lagan would be extremely
powerful.[his actual bank account]
The reverse case is also possible where 2nd house from arudh lagan is weak(actually very
little bank balance) but arudh of 2nd house is very strong(world perceive him to be very
rich).
Here the case could be ....since the arudh of 2nd house is strong ..we would say that
publically the native has very good earnings, but actually the native is wasting all that
money in drugs,gambling,girls or sex... as a result his bank account is always near to the
bottom line.

5/8/08

NIKHIL
for all..
Actually when arudh of 2nd house goes strong , It definetely shows that the earnings and
acheivements of the native are very good....thats why public is able to see his rising
graph.
But whether that rising graph of earning is actually nourishing the native could only be
seen through 2nd house from arudh lagan.

5/9/08

Abhi
Hi NIKHIL,
How to see the strength of any rashi.
is it the number of planets in it or number of planets aspecting it by planet drishti or rashi
dirshti
or argala concept we need to look at?
E.g. In my chart :- I have leo as AL2 and no planet in it and sun is 12th from it in AL and
A2 then should we consider it weak as no planet and its lord is 12th from it. moreover
there are many malefics and benefics planet aspecting leo also.
Saturn and ketu from LIBRA, Jupiter from Capricon, Rahu from Aries.
venus is having labhaargla from Venus.

So what will be the net effect ?

so please clarify how to see the strength.
Thanks
Abhishek

5/9/08

Abhi
ok.. but what about the rashi drishti and planet drishti...
which one comes first. as Rahu is aspecting the leo from planet drishti. And it is the only
planet aspecting leo by planet drishti.
rest planets aspects via rashi drishti.
so please clarify my doubts
Thanks
Abhishek

5/9/08

NIKHIL
abhishek.
simply placement of planet in 12th from its rashi doesnt mean that planet is weak or
strong.

5/10/08

NIKHIL

for all....
There are lot of misconceptions about the dasha's and antardashas of atmakark.
People say that this dasha is very troublesome or very hard to expereince
but this is actually not the case.
what do you all have to say abt this....??

5/12/08

Abhi
no it is not ture that dasha of Ak gives bad rsults.
As I personally experienced that the Ak anterdasha(Saturn in my case) is very good. It
had given me much good results.
So it is not the case that Ak dasha always gives bad results.
But soem times to purify our soul from the sins Ak dasha gives bad result. Like in one
case a person having Ak as mercury had gone through much troubles due to some
communication gap. So Ak dasha is good or bad depending upon what we are doing.
Thanks
Abhishek

5/13/08

NIKHIL
Abhishek.
Ok so lets begin,...
Generally whether the Dasha of atmakark would be fruitful or not will depend on these
conditions.
1) Dipositor of atmakark.
2) Amount of support which atmakark is deriving from amatyakarak.(and its
dipositor),putrkarak and its dipositor.

3) Argala on atmakarak.
4) Karakans strength(including trikond,2nd from karakans) and shatyamsa chart position
of atmakark.
5) Arudh lagan lord,trikond lords relationships with atmakark
6) Strength and nature of Planet aspecting/conjucting atmakark.
7) Placement of atmakark.
8) Bhava(in which atmakark is placed) Karak support to the atmakark.
9) UL(arudh of 12th house) relationship with atmakark.
10) ketu(Mokshkarak) relationship with atmakark.

5/14/08

Abhi
NIKHIL..
These are to amny conditions that u have talk about..
I dont know all the details of that person. so cant tell about all the conditions.
But to discuss I do have one chart. The atmakarka antradasha will come in 2010 for that
person.
so i will give u details .. Please discuss on that chart's atmakarka and let us make it
understood better.
Birth details:11th august 1985
10:26 pm
longitude:- 77E02
lattitude:- 31N11
lagna ;- aries
Nav:- gemini
here we discuss:--

5/14/08

Abhi

NIKHIL:-1) dispositer of AK (Saturn in this case) is venus. It is having 9th house from Ak. so I
think it is good for AK.
2) Amk is moon in taraus. having same depositer as of AK. nothing else is common so no
comments from my side. But Pitrekarka is jupiter that is in Nav lagna with AK. And Ak is
depositer of Jupiter that is Pitrikarka. So I think it is a good raj yoga.
3)Jupiter is having sukhaargala on AK that is opposed by 3 planets Mars , sun and
mercury.
4)
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5/14/08

Abhi
4) Karakans strength(including trikond,2nd from karakans) and shatyamsa chart position
of atmakark. IN D 60 chart Ak is in 2nd house with 2nd lord mercury and mars. So i
think it is not so good position.
5) Arudh lagan lord,trikond lords relationships with atmakark. Arudha lagna lord is
moon. The Ak and moon are aspecting each other by rashi drishti. no other rplation ship I
am able to see.
6) Strength and nature of Planet aspecting/conjucting atmakark. Ketu is conjucting AK.
7) Placement of atmakark. Ak is in 7th house where it got dig bal also. It is also 4th house
from AL.
8) Bhava(in which atmakark is placed) Karak support to the atmakark. IN 7th house AK
is placed.
9) UL(arudh of 12th house) relationship with atmakark. AK is 12th from UL. so i thinnk
it gives detachment from wife.
10) ketu(Mokshkarak) relationship with atmakark. it conjucts AK.

so please add on your comments also.

5/14/08

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6/21/08

NIKHIL
for all...
Always remember.
Arudh lagan in navamsa chart has much more relevance than D-1 chart.
And AL in shatyamsa(D-60) has the highest relevance.

6/21/08

NIKHIL
for all...
Similarly...
Importance of the strength of atmakarak Is higher in navamsa(as compared to lagan
chart) and highest in shatyamsa chart.
Even characterstics of atmakaraka are more clearly visible in navamsa chart
(as compared to lagan chart) and most accurately visible in shatyamsa chart.

6/28/08

NIKHIL
for all..
Planets with atmakark and those aspecting atmakark in shatyamsa chart
has to say a lot about native's personality.

7/4/08

NIKHIL
for all...
For example if atmakarak is under the aspect of strong Jupiter or placed with strong
jupiter in shtyamsa chart ....there would be a very strong influence of jupiter on the
native's personality.
Similarly native would exhibit high level of intellect ,if atamakark is under the
dominance of mercury in the shatyamsa chart.

12/16/08

madhu...
@nikhil sir
but how to find arudh lagan??

12/16/08

NIKHIL
madhu
for deeper understanding of UL and AL etc
also go through this thread...
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12/17/08

NIKHIL
madhu
read these articles,,...
http://ahimsazr1.wordpress.com/example-session-from-siva-university-arudha-lagna/
http://jyotish-blog.blogspot.com/2005/03/arudha-lagna.html

12/18/08

Dr.Nandana
Arudh lagan in navamsa chart has much more relevance than D-1 chart.
And AL in shatyamsa(D-60) has the highest relevance.
What is the difference b/w the AL in lagna
AL of D 9
AL of D60

12/19/08

madhu...
@nikhil sir
thanksss

12/20/08

NIKHIL
Dr. nandana
Technique to find AL for lagan,navamsa and shatyamsa would remain the same
but since shatyamsa chart has highest relevance in vimsopka bal scheme formulated by
parashar i.e( 5 points), hence Singnificance of AL in shatyamsa becomes much more
relevant.
lagan chart has got 3 points and navamsa chart has 1.5 points in that scheme...

12/20/08

Dr.Nandana
Nikhil
what i asked is
the AL of Rashi shows what
AL on D60 show what in the person and the langa of D 60 reflect what side of the person
Can you elaborate on the vimsopaka bal and that point ( the last sentence matter)

12/20/08

NIKHIL
Dr nandana
go through this...
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs.aspx?
cmm=1225138&tid=2560114569344532077

12/20/08

NIKHIL
Dr nandana
In my above posts ,I have provided the links to understand AL
Whatever AL indicates(go through the article) in the rashi chart,,..
It indicates the same in shatyamsa chart BUT in a much more accurate manner.

Mar 17

arun
@nikhil
wt if atamakarak getting delibrate in shashtiamsha
?
consider this chart.
24-7-81
6:59 am
ghaziabad india
here in d60 atamakarak rahu in neeach in 6th house. while al and a7 are in aquarious,
house of rahu.
this person is highly spiritual. which is clear but i still don't understand what does neeach
atamakarak signifies?
more ever atamakarak(ra) and putra karak(sun) are together in d1,d9,d10.(though its a
ghran yog- does give bad health)
but this acc to gemini rashi is an extremely powerful yog and give lot of lot of following

and power. which i can't see.

jai shree ram.

Mar 18

NIKHIL
arun..
"here in d60 atamakarak rahu in neeach in 6th house. while al and a7 are in aquarious,
house of rahu.
this person is highly spiritual. which is clear but i still don't understand what does neeach
atamakarak signifies? "
neech atmakark in D-60 clearly signifies that person need to work more on his soul
purification.
Since here it is placed in 6th house..it means that soul purification process would
accelerate only after countering materialistic obligations with spritualistic pursuits..
(note:- D-60 should be aptly rectified)
Type of the materialistic obligations would depend on the planets aspecting or
influencing rahu//...
Also ..since rahu is deliberated in 6th ..it means that...in the end ...person would
successfully counter those obstructions which are present in the path of soul upliftment.

Mar 18

NIKHIL
arun and for all...
To check the results or outcome of the efforts which native is putting in for soul
upliftment...D-108 should be analysed...
As I always say ...D-60 is incomplete without D-108...
MOST IMPORTANT PURPOSE OF ASTROLOGY..IS TO KNOW THE PATH OF

ONE's SOUL...
Once the native is aware of its INDICATED soul path ..only then he can MODIFY it in
the right direction....
People have reduced the purpose of astrology to mere predictions on carreer/marriage
etc...and indeed forgotten the actual purpose of astrology...
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Mar 20

arun
what i understand is that this neeach atamakarak means that atama is evil. which is
needed to be purified in this janma and what a person will do to purify his sole can be
seen from d-108.
neeach atamakarak means that there is lot of sanchit pap karma which native has done in
his previous life which which his atama don't want him to do.
now what does atama wants....? it want moksha. so we can say that insted of pap karma,
native has not done anything towards the achivement of moksha so atamakaram getting
neeach as it is asking the native very eagerly to something to get moksha.
on the other hand exelted atamakarak means that he has done a lot of work toward getting
moksha. does it also signifies that saints have exelted atamakarak(more so is ak is related
al)
?

but why atamakarak in 6th signifies sole purification only after countering materialistic
obligations with spritualistic pursuits. what the logic behind this.

jai shree ram

Mar 20

NIKHIL
arun
whatever you have understood is absolutely correct...
coming to your question..
"but why atamakarak in 6th signifies soul purification only after countering materialistic
obligations with spritualistic pursuits. what the logic behind this."
See.....arun ..wherever atmakarka gets deliberated ..it signifies that before the native's
soul could go on the path of "moksha derivation"..it has to first counter the materialistic
obligation related to that bhava qualities(or position)
This is because those obligations itself are preventing the native to follow the path of the
moksha..
Let me take one example before coming back to 6th house rahu(deliberated condition)
Assume saturn as atmakark is getting deliberated in the 2nd house of D-60 chart...
Now what does it signify...?
It means that before walking on the path of moksha..native has to first fulfill the various
family obligations/responsibilities, He also have to perform "anna dana"(food daan), to
fulfill the money obligations..he has to perform "dhan dan " in any form to the really
needy people, person should always speak truth [parameters of 2nd house]...also since
saturn is involved...
Focus should be on the poor/worker class..while performing the above activities...
secondly.."shani mantra" jaap, saturday fast,maun vrat on saturday, hard work would be
necessary for the native.
Whatever you have explained earlier, only accounts for the results of atmakarak getting
deliberated...( there you have not taken the position /planet qualities etc of atmakark into
consideration)

Coming back to the your case...rahu deliberated in 6th house...

placement of deliberated atmakark in 6th house means ...that first materialistically you
have to get rid of " loans in any form taken by you", get rid of the enemeys you have
made "DUE TO YOUR OWN MISTAKES" by requesting pardon from them, offering
help in any form to the people who are suffering from various ailments etc...

Mar 20

arun
crystal clear. thanks nikhil. please throw some light on d-108 as well.
question like
meaning of exalted/deliberate ak, lagnesh, al lord in d-108?
relationship between al,ak,lagnesh in d-108? etc

Mar 20

NIKHIL
arun..
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs.aspx?
cmm=1225138&tid=2582274148165566061

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NIKHIL
for all..
for information on dhan pad,darapad etc..go through this...
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#CommMsgs.aspx?

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