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5.12

THROTTLE CONTROL/GOVERNORS

There are two types of engine governors that are used with throttle controls. The engine
governors are:
The Automotive Limiting Speed Governor (ALSG) for torque control, typical governor for
on-highway applications(refer to section 5.12.1)
The Power Take-off (PTO) for speed control, typical variable speed governor (VSG) for
off-highway applications (refer to section 5.12.2)

5.12.1

AUTOMOTIVE LIMITING SPEED GOVERNOR - ON-HIGHWAY

In on-highway applications and some nonroad applications, ALSG is the primary throttle source.
The throttle input in a ALSG sets percent load. The amount of fuel input to the engine is
determined by the throttle position. As the load on the engine varies the resulting engine speed
will vary between idle speed and rated speed.

ALSG Accelerator Pedal


The accelerator pedal (AP) sends an input signal which the ALSG uses to calculate engine power
proportional to the foot pedal position. This assembly is also referred to as the Accelerator
Pedal Sensor (AP Sensor) assembly.

ALSG Accelerator Pedal Installation


MBE Electronic Controls are compatible with an AP which has an output voltage that meets SAE
J1843 and has less than 5% of voltage supply closed throttle variability.
The AP is an OEM supplied part. Vendor sources that may be contacted for additional design
and installation details.
NOTE:
An Idle Validation Switch is required.
Williams Controls
14100 S.W. 72nd Avenue
Portland, Oregon 97224
Phone: (503) 684-8600
www.williamscontrols.com
See Figure 5-17 for installation requirements.

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Figure 5-17

Accelerator Pedal Installation

An Idle Validation Switch is required and uses two digital inputs. Refer to section 4.2, "Digital
Inputs," for additional information.

ALSG Electronic Foot Pedal Assembly Diagnostics


An Idle Validation Switch inputs provide redundancy to assure that the engine will be at idle in
the event of an AP in-range malfunction. The Idle Validation Switch is connected to two digital
inputs on the VCU. When the Idle Validation Switch on the AP is switched to battery ground, the
engine speed will be at idle.

5.12.2

POWER TAKE-OFF

PTO control is available to fuel the engine in order to keep the selected PTO speed regardless of
engine torque without driver interaction. The engine torque cannot exceed a programmed limit.
Upon startup the engine will go to the speed selected by the PTO throttle position.
The PTO throttle control options are:
Cab PTO Cruise Switch PTO
Remote PTO
Analog PTO

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NOTE:
Software version Rel. 12.0 or later, the park brake function could be enabled/disabled
and the logic for the park brake may be inverted.
See Figure 5-18 for a diagram of PTO logic.

Figure 5-18

PTO Logic

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Cab PTO Cruise Switch PTO


The Cruise Control switches are used to activate and control the Cruise Switch PTO (Cab PTO)
option.
NOTE:
Cab throttle and remote throttle can be overridden with the accelerator pedal unless
PTO Throttle Override is disabled.
The Cruise On/Off switch must be turned ON and the park brake must be engaged (software Rel
11.02 or later) to enable this feature if parameter 1:11:30 as listed in Table 5-50 is set to 1. If
Cruise Switch PTO is inactive and the Cruise Switch PTO conditions are met, pressing and
releasing the Resume/Accel Switch will activate Cruise Switch PTO at the Resume PTO Speed.
Pressing and releasing the Set/Coast Switch will activate Cruise Switch PTO at the Set PTO Speed.
The Resume PTO Speed and the Set PTO Speed can be programmed with the VEPS or minidiag2
and cannot be greater than the PTO maximum speed or lower than the PTO minimum speed.
Once the PTO set speed is established, the Resume/Accel Switch can be used to increment the set
speed at a rate of 200 rpm/sec (programmable). Releasing the Resume/Accel Switch will set the
engine speed at the current operating speed.
The Set/Coast Switch will decrement the set speed at a rate of 200 rpm/sec (programmable),
down to the minimum PTO speed. Releasing the Set/Coast Switch will set the engine speed at
the current operating speed.
Remote PTO speed is disabled for any of the following:
Turning the Cruise Master Switch off
Vehicle speed is greater than Max Vehicle Speed in PTO (programmable default 9.6 km/h)
VSS fault
Clutch Released Pedal or Service Brake Pedal are pressed - optional
Park Brake is off (if configured)
If PTO Throttle Override is enabled, the throttle pedal can override the PTO engine speed up to the
maximum engine speed for Throttle Override. Throttle pedal or remote throttle engine speed can
override once the current PTO engine speed is reached. The previous PTO set speed will become
active again, if it is greater than the engine speed equivalent to the throttle pedal percentage.

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See Figure 5-19 for a diagram of Cab PTO Mode

Figure 5-19

Cab PTO Mode

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Cruise Switch PTO Programming Requirement and Flexibility


The digital inputs listed in Table 5-49 are required for Cruise Switch PTO. These digital inputs
may be configured with VEPS or the minidiag2.
Digital Input

Type

VCU
Pin

Default

Parameter ID

Cruise Master
Switch

Digital Input or J1939

18/6

1 = Enabled

1 13 27

Service Brake
Switch (optional)

Digital Input or J1939

21/15

1 = Enabled

1 13 05

1 11 26

Transmission Type

Digital Input or J1939

18/2

0 = Manual transmission with


clutch switch
1 = Automated transmission
with clutch switch
2 = Automatic transmission
without clutch switch

Set/Coast Switch

Digital Input or J1939

18/4

1 = Enabled

1 13 23

Resume/Accel
Switch

Digital Input or J1939

18/5

1 = Enabled

1 13 22

Park Brake Switch

Digital Input or J1939

21/16

1 = Enabled

1 13 07

Table 5-49

Cruise Switch PTO Digital Inputs

The parameters listed in Table 5-50 can be set with VEPS or the minidiag2.

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Parameters

Description

Default

Range

Parameter
ID

PTO Function

Enables/disables the PTO function

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 01

Max PTO Speed

Sets the max PTO speed

1200 RPM

500 3000 RPM

1 11 02

Min PTO Speed

Sets the min PTO speed

500 RPM

500 3000 RPM

1 11 03

PTO Throttle
Override

Enables/disables the throttle pedal


from overriding PTO mode.

0 = Disabled

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 04

Max Engine
Speed for
Throttle Override

Sets the max engine speed that


the throttle can obtain when in PTO
mode.

1400 RPM

0 3000 RPM

1 11 05

PTO Dropout on
Service Brake
Switch

Enables/Disables the status of the


Service Brake Switch for disabling
of PTO

1 = Enabled
(Service Brake
Switch will
disable PTO)

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 06

PTO Dropout on
Clutch Switch

Enables/Disables the status of the


Clutch Switch for disabling of PTO

1 = Enabled
(Clutch Switch
will disable PTO)

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 07

Max Vehicle
Speed in PTO

Sets the max vehicle speed over


which PTO is disabled

9.6 km/h

0 128 km/h

1 11 08

Cruise Set PTO


Speed

Sets the initial speed when the


Set/Coast Switch is used to enable
Cab PTO

950 RPM

Min PTO Speed to


Max PTO Speed

1 11 09

Set PTO Max


Engine Torque

Sets the max engine torque that


becomes active once the Set/Coast
Switch is activated

600 Nm

0-5000 Nm

1 11 11

Cruise Resume
PTO Speed

Sets the initial speed when the


Resume/Accel Switch is used to
enable Cab PTO

950 RPM

Min PTO Speed to


Max PTO Speed

1 11 12

Resume PTO
Max Engine
Torque

Sets the max engine torque


that becomes active once the
Resume/Accel Switch is activated

600 Nm

0-5000 Nm

1 11 14

200 RPM/sec

25 2500 RPM/sec

1 11 15

1 = Park Brake
must be applied
for PTO operation

0 = Park Brake must


not be applied for
PTO operation
1 = Park Brake must
be applied for PTO
operation

1 11 30

1 = Enabled (park
brake required)

0 = PTO does not


require park brake
to be enabled.
1 = Enabled (park
brake required,
1:11:30 value must
be 1 to activate PTO)

1 11 31

PTO Ramp Rate

Park Brake Logic


with PTO

Enable Park
Brake with PTO

Table 5-50

Sets the rate of increase or


decrease.

Sets the park brake logic to be


used with PTO

Enables/Disables the requirement


to use the park brake status when
in PTO mode

Cruise Switch PTO Parameters

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Remote PTO Mode


The Remote PTO will override the Cab PTO mode when the Remote PTO Switch input on the
VCU (18/10) is grounded. Remote PTO will also override throttle pedal and remote throttle
unless PTO Throttle Override is disabled. The active throttle will override Remote PTO if
PTO Throttle Override is enabled.
The preset speed is selected by enabling the remote PTO switch once for PTO Speed #1, twice
for PTO Speed #2, and three times for PTO Speed #3. These preset speeds can be set with the
minidiag2.
Remote PTO speed is disabled for any of the following:
Turning the Remote PTO switch off for more than two seconds
Vehicle speed is greater than Max Vehicle Speed in PTO (programmable default 9.6 km/h)
VSS fault
Clutch Released Pedal or Service Brake Pedal are depressed
Park Brake is off (Software rel. 11.02 or later)
NOTE:
If the condition that disabled Remote PTO is inactive again, Remote PTO will
automatically start again. PTO #1 Set speed will be used.
If PTO Throttle Override is enabled, the throttle pedal can override the PTO Engine speed up
to the Maximum Engine Speed for Throttle Override. If the throttle pedal or remote throttle
engine speed is less than current PTO engine speed a dead band will occur. The previous PTO set
speed will become active again, if it is greater than the engine speed equivalent to the throttle
pedal percentage.
If remote PTO is active and then disabled due to one or more disabling condition, PTO mode will
automatically reactivate when the disabling condition is removed.

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See Figure 5-20 for a diagram of Remote PTO Mode.

Figure 5-20

Remote PTO Mode

Remote PTO Programming Requirement and Flexibility


The parameters listed in Table 5-51 can be set with VEPS or the minidiag2.

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Parameters

Description

Default

Range

Parameter
ID

PTO Function

Enables/disables the PTO


function

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 01

Max PTO Speed

Sets the max PTO speed

1200 RPM

500 3000 RPM

1 11 02

Min PTO Speed

Sets the min PTO speed

500 RPM

500 3000 RPM

1 11 03

PTO Throttle
Override Enable

Enables/disables the feature to


override the current PTO set
speed using the throttle pedal.

1 = Enabled

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 04

1400 RPM

0 3000 RPM

1 11 05

1 = Enabled
(Service Brake
Switch will
disable PTO)

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 06

Max Engine Speed


for Throttle Override

Sets the max engine speed that


the throttle can override the PTO
set speed.

PTO Dropout on
Service Brake
Switch

Enables/Disables the status of


the Service Brake Switch for
disabling of PTO

PTO Dropout on
Clutch Switch

Enables/Disables the status of


the Clutch Switch for disabling of
PTO

1 = Enabled
(Clutch Switch
will disable PTO)

0 = Disabled
1 = Enabled

1 11 07

Max Vehicle Speed


in PTO

Sets the max vehicle speed over


which PTO is disabled

9.6 km/h

0 128 km/h

1 11 08

200 RPM/sec

25 2500 RPM/sec

1 11 15

1 to 3

1 11 16

950 RPM

Min PTO RPM to


Max PTO RPM

1 11 17

600 Nm

Low Idle - 5000 Nm

1 11 19

950 RPM

Min PTO RPM to


Max PTO RPM

1 11 20

600 Nm

Low Idle - 5000 Nm

1 11 22

950 RPM

Low Idle - 5000 Nm

1 11 23

Sets the max engine torque for


PTO Speed #3

600 Nm

Low Idle - 5000 Nm

1 11 25

Park Brake Logic


with PTO

Sets the park brake logic to be


used with PTO

1 = Park
Brake must be
applied for PTO
operation

0 = Park Brake must


not be applied for
PTO operation
1 = Park Brake must
be applied for PTO
operation

1 11 30

Enable Park Brake


with PTO

Enables/Disables the
requirement to use the park
brake status when in PTO mode

1 = Enabled
(park brake
required)

0 = Disabled (park
brake not required)
1 = Enabled (park
brake required)

1 11 31

Sets the rate of increase or


decrease when in PTO mode.

PTO Ramp Rate


Number of Remote
PTO Speed
PTO Speed #1

Sets the PTO #1 set speed

PTO Speed #1 Max


Engine Torque
PTO Speed #2

PTO Speed #3

Sets the max engine torque for


PTO Speed #2
#3 PTO set speed

PTO Speed #3 Max


Engine Torque

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Sets the max engine torque for


PTO Speed #1
#2 PTO set speed

PTO Speed #2 Max


Engine Torque

Table 5-51

Sets the number of remote PTO


speeds that can be enabled

Remote PTO Parameters

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Installation
The Remote PTO Switch is wired to pin 18/10 of the VCU/ADM2FR. See Figure 5-21.

Figure 5-21

Remote PTO Switch

Analog PTO
A Remote Accelerator Pedal can be installed to control either an analog Remote PTO (VSG) or
analog Remote Accelerator Pedal (ALSG).
The Remote PTO will start when the Remote PTO switch is switched to battery ground. The
Remote PTO logic will override the Cab PTO. Cab throttle and remote throttle are also overridden
unless PTO Throttle Override is disabled. When ALSG operation is required, the Remote
Accelerator Switch is switched to battery ground.
The Remote Accelerator Switch Select input (VCU, 18/7) determines the active throttle control.
When this pin is grounded, the engine will respond to the remote throttle input. When this input is
not grounded, the engine will respond to the cab throttle pedal.
The PTO Enable input (VCU, 18/10) determines if the engine will be in VSG or ALSG mode.
If remote PTO is active and then disabled due to one or more disabling condition, PTO mode will
automatically reactivate when the disabling condition is removed.

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Installation
See Figure 5-22 for installation of a Remote Accelerator Control for PTO or ALSG.

Figure 5-22

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Remote Accelerator Control for PTO or ALSG

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