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06-09-2006, 07:18 PM

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1FZ-FE 4.5l I6
While at Deans place with a few members of our club last week
I threw the idea out of yet another possible engine swap that
has yet to be mentioned. The 1FZ-FE 4.5L DOHC I6 found in
the Land Cruiser and Lexus LX450 during the mid to late '90s.
Specifications
Capacity: 4477cc.
Valves per cylinder: 4.
Bore: 100.0mm.
Stroke: 95mm.
Compression Ratio: 9.0:1.
Ignition system: Direct ignition.
Fuel: 91.0 RON gasoline.

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With a little head work, new parts, higher compression pistons

and balancing I'm sure the engine could quit easily be made to
rev higher with a lot of power in NA form.
The reason I think this engine might be a good consideration
for a swap is its large capacity. Larger than any xUZ engine
and possibly easier to install, ie. only one custom header (stock
may fit anyway). Being an inline six cylinder engine it would be
much easier to turbo too. Just think 4.5L turbo! I would use
two CT26 turbos from an MR2.
Think of the possabilities.
Three things to wonder about are is its overall dimensions, will
it fit under the hood of a MA6x? Is it too heavy? Also if any
existing Toyota manual transmission will bolt up to this engine?
What does everyone think?

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06-09-2006, 07:37 PM

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212hp and 275ft-lb torque...

I'd rather just do 2jz-ge. It'd probably cost too much to make it
a good motor for speed(new camshafts alone... ugh) ... If you
wanted to tow a boat with your supra, and found a good trans
though... Mileage is horrible too.
It's not for me, that's all I know.
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06-09-2006, 07:43 PM

rsdeo

Originally Posted by MagSupra

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212hp and 275ft-lb torque...

I'd rather just do 2jz-ge. It'd probably cost too much to
make it a good motor for speed(new camshafts alone...
ugh) ... If you wanted to tow a boat with your supra, and
found a good trans though... Mileage is horrible too.

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Understandable, but nothing replace cubic inches.

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06-09-2006, 07:46 PM

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True... If you had the money, and managed to hook this up...
It could be awesome. But it's a long hard road, lol, and I can't
afford the toll.

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06-09-2006, 07:52 PM

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Seen one of these blocks sitting next to a 7m block at a local

yard a few years back. I must say that 1FZ is HUGE! It makes
the 7m look like a 22re next to a 7m.
It would be a cool
swap but that block would take some serious fabbing to fit in a
MK2. And it's VERY heavy.

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06-09-2006, 08:27 PM

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woulnt the crank be just too damn long for high horsepower
applications? i wouldnt trust it for high revvingness

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06-09-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WadeT

Seen one of these blocks sitting next to a 7m block at a

local yard a few years back. I must say that 1FZ is HUGE!

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It makes the 7m look like a 22re next to a 7m. It would
be a cool swap but that block would take some serious
fabbing to fit in a MK2. And it's VERY heavy.
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Wade is right. That motor would have to stick out the top and
bottom of the mk2. I don't know what it would weigh, but
would seriously mess with the handling. And another little quirk
about that motor, it got 14-15mpg and I could put a 3000lb
supra on a dolly behind it and still get 13-14mpg. I bet if it
were only pushing a 3000lb and not 5000 or even 8000, it'd
probably still get only 15mpg. Interestingly tho, there are
aftermarket turbo and supercharger kits available for that
motor as the fzj-80 is a very popular truck. But its all designed
to climb and crawl, not rev.

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06-09-2006, 08:33 PM

rsdeo

Originally Posted by MagSupra

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True... If you had the money, and managed to hook this

up...
It could be awesome. But it's a long hard road, lol, and I
can't afford the toll.

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It would be expensive. The xUZ swap would be cheaper.

Originally Posted by WadeT

Seen one of these blocks sitting next to a 7m block at a

local yard a few years back. I must say that 1FZ is HUGE!
It makes the 7m look like a 22re next to a 7m. It would
be a cool swap but that block would take some serious
fabbing to fit in a MK2. And it's VERY heavy.

The answers I was looking for, thanks Wade.

I think if anyone was trying to do the swap the engine would
need to installed further back into the firewall. Needless to say
firewall modification can get not only time consuming, but
expensive.
Originally Posted by pdupler

Wade is right. That motor would have to stick out the top
and bottom of the mk2. I don't know what it would weigh,
but would seriously mess with the handling. And another
little quirk about that motor, it got 14-15mpg and I could
put a 3000lb supra on a dolly behind it and still get
13-14mpg. I bet if it were only pushing a 3000lb and not
5000 or even 8000, it'd probably still get only 15mpg.
Interestingly tho, there are aftermarket turbo and
supercharger kits available for that motor as the fzj-80 is a
very popular truck. But its all designed to climb and crawl,
not rev.

Points well taken Phil.

Any other gasoline powered inline sixes from Toyota that have
larger capacities than 3.0L? Then there is the Tacoma/4Runner
4.0L V6 and it comes standard with a 6 spd transmission. I
think I have asked before if this new 6 spd transmission would

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bolt straight up to a xUZ? It might be something to try.

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06-11-2006, 10:55 AM

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MS-75 aka Sean Gannon from Australia.

1FZ-FE Landcruiser 6cyl, 4.5L
Supra 4spd auto
GT-42 1000hp turbo
20psi
BFG Drag Radials
10.74@133.3
Hoosier Slicks
10.456@136.28
The 1FZ-FE delivers som serious killerwatts!
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=706
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5062
http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2688
http://groups.msn.com/classicrown/se...oupepart2.msnw
http://groups.msn.com/classicrown/se...ctparttwo.msnw

His old 5M-E setup:

http://groups.msn.com/classicrown/au...01feature.msnw

//Erik
MS65 4M, MA61 5M-E, TA22, RA28, LS400
http://hemiyoda.net/bilder/
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06-11-2006, 11:49 AM

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that guy's car/engine is simply rediculous

eric

It's so beefy!

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