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Couldanyoneherehelptoexplainwhatdoes"Redirection"meansforLTE?whatisthedifferance
betweenNetworkredirectionandIRATHO?
whatwillhappenincaseUEmovedoutLTEcoverageandswitchedto3G/2Gisitcalledredirection
?
pleasesharewithmethemessageflowfortheLTEredirection?
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December10,2012
EikoSeidel
RedirectionisusedduringIDLEtoACTIVEtransition.Youcancamponacertaintechnology
withouttheneedofcontinousinterfrequencymeasurementsconsumingUEbatterylive.Once
thereisapacketandyougotoACTIVEyoucanusetheredirection,partoftheRRC
connectionrequestprocedure,tobalancetheloadbetweenRATs.
ApopularscenarioiswhenUMTShasalargercoveragethanLTE.UEregisteredinUMTSand
movingintoLTE.
IRATHOinonlyduringACTIVEandredirection,besidesothers,triestoreducethenumberof
IRATHO.
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AhmadRaba(CCIERnS/SP#39355)
ThanksEikoforyourinfo..
doyouhaveameesageflowforaredirection(fromLTEto3G).
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December10,2012
AnikethanRamakrishnaV
HelloAhmad,
Regardingyourpartofthequestion:"whatwillhappenincaseUEmovedoutLTEcoverageand
switchedto3G/2Gisitcalledredirection."
Thereare3concepts.
*Redirection:ThisdecisionisentirelylefttothenetworkandhappenswhentheUEisin
connectedmode.ThenetworkgenerallysendstheUEan"RRCConnectionRelease"withsome
redirectioninformation.So,nowtheUEmovestoIdlemodeandbasedontheredirection
informationreceived,ittriestocamponthatfrequency(maybeofthesameRAToradifferent
RAT).
*Handover:Thisisagaintriggeredbythenetwork.TheUEhastobeinconnectedmode.The
networkrequestsUEtosendmeasurementreportsofservingcell/neighbourcelletc.Andbased
onthemeasurements,itinitiateshandover.
*Ontheotherhand,ifUEisinidlemodeandisgraduallymovingoutofLTEcoveragearea,
thenUEdecidestoreselecttothemostpreferredRATbasedonthecoveragearound.
Hopethishelps.
Youcangoogleoutformoreinformationontheseconcepts.
Regards,
Anikethan
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Xiaoxia(Michael)Tan
Asweknowm,the"Redirection"mayhavedifferentmeansthroughmultiplewireless
technologies.Wemaybeconfusedwithit.However,using"Redirection"inLTEseemslike
almostlyfocusonInterRATbetweenLTEandCDMAEVDOthrougheitherUEinIDLEor
ACTIVEstates.
Forme,RedictionmayhaveameanthatitforcesUEto"handover"toatarget....
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January3,2013
SanilF.
CanaNetworkTriggerRedirectioninIdleMode?
IknowredirectionisrelatedtoconnectedstatebutasredirectionistotallyeNBbased,cana
networkstilltriggerredirectioninidlemodewithoutanyPSconnectivity?Oristhisagainstthe
specs
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March20,2013
EikoSeidel
RedirectioninLTE/UMTSisdoneduringRRCConnectionSetupsowhengoingto
RRC_CONNECTED.ThefunctiontosteerIDLEUEsistheCellReselectionfunction.Ofcourse
henetworkcanalsocontrolthisinaslowwaybyadaptationofthecellselectionparameters
thatarebeingbroadcasted.
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March20,2013
SsonkoIsmail,PMP
ThankyouEiko.Iwasactuallymixingredirectionwithreselection.Accordingtoyour
explanation,myunderstandingnowisthatreselectionoccursinIdlemode,andnotconnected
mode.
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September4,2013
SakshiChourasia
HiSsonkoIsmail,
AccordingtoTS25.304clause5.4.3,reselectionprocessinconnectedstateissameasinidle
state.
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March19,2014
SakshiChourasia
HiSsonkoIsmail,
AccordingtoTS25.304clause5.4.3,reselectionprocessinconnectedstateissameasinidle
state.
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March19,2014
PetruBudur
RedirectioninLTEisoneofthemobilitycases,alongwithHandoverandReselection.
RedirectioninLTE,sameasforhandover,istriggeredbyeNB.
RedirectioninLTE,sameasforhandover,canhappenonlyifUEisinRRCConnectedmode.
RedirectioncanbedoneintraLTE(towardsanotherEARFCN,incaseofLTEinterfrequency
redirection)ORinterRAT(towardsanUARFCN,caseofredirectionto3GORtowardsan
ARFCN,caseofredirectionto2G).
RedirectionistriggeredbythenetworkthroughthemessageRRCConnectionRelease,the
samemessagethatisusedforsendingUEfromconnectedmodetoidlemodeinsameLTE
cell.Thedifferenceisthatforredirectioncasethismessagewillcontainadditionallythe
redirectioninformation,i.e.thetargetEARFCNorUARFCNorARFCN.
RedirectionimpliessothataUEisinRRCconnectedmodeinaservingLTEcell,theneNB
sendstoUEanRRCConnectionReleasemessage(withtargetEARCN,UARFCNorARFCN
info),UEthengoesaccordinglyinidlemodeandbasedontheredirectioninformationreceived,
ittriestocamponthatfrequency.
Normally,foragivensetof(LTEservingcell,targetcell)withtargetcelleitherLTEcellor3G
cellor2Gcell,ifforthatpairofcells,handoverisconfigured,enabledandworking,then
redirectionwillneverbetriggered,ashandoverwillalwaysbetriggeredinpreferencebythe
eNB.
ReselectionwillbetriggeredbythenetworkonlywhenhandoverisnotconfiguredORwhen
handoverisconfigured,butdisabledORwhenhandovereventhoughconfiguredandenabled,it
failsinthepreparationphase(forinstanceifinthehandoverpreparationphasethesourceeNB
doesnotgetareplyfromthetargeteNBetc).
Fortriggeringtheredirection,eNBisusingasinputtheMeasurementReportssentbyUE.
AnddependingonthesettingdoneineNB,redirectionwillbetriggeredbyeNBafteritreceives:
*MeasurementReportsforEventA2
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*MeasurementReportsforintraLTEevents(forinstanceEventA3orA5)orforIRATspecific
events(forinstanceEventB1orB2)
Thefirstcaseisalsocalledblindredirection,asthereisnomeasurement/knowledgeofthe
targetcellradioconditions.
Thesecondcaseisalsocalledmeasurementbasedredirection,asinthatcasetargetcellis
measuredandknownthatitmeetstheminimumrequirementsforhandingovertheUEtothat
cell.
ThefirstcasecanhappenwhenhandoverisnotconfiguredornotenabledANDredirectionis
configuredintheeNBtobeablindredirection.
Thesecondcasecanhappenwhenhandoverisconfiguredandisenabled,butfailsin
preparationphaseORwhenhandoverisnotconfiguredornotenabledandredirectionis
configuredineNBtobeameasurementbasedredirection.
Apartfromtheabovegeneralredirectioninformation,thereisthespecialcaseofCSFBto
legacy,wheretheredirectionmechanismcanbeusedbyeNBtosendUEto2Gor3Gfor
performingthevoicecallthere,caseinwhichtheinputforeNBisnotanymorethe
MeasurementReport,buttheExtendedServiceRequest(forCSFB)messagesentbyUE.
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March20,2014
LongDuan
Ithinkthediscussionherefailedtocoverfundamentaldifferencebetweenredirectionand
handover.IguessAhmed'squestionisabout"whatisthedifferencebetweenredirectionand
handover?"
1.Thefundamentaldifferencebetweenthetwois:redirectiondoesnotrequirethenetworkto
preparethetargetsidewhilethehandoverrequiresthenetworktopreparethetargetsidebefore
itcaninstructtheUEtoperformhandover.Considerthefollowingexample:
*whenaredirectionistriggeredbythenetwork(therearemanywaystotriggerredirectionand
someofthemarediscussedinthethreadabove),thesourcecellwillsimplygathernecessary
informationaboutthetargetcell(suchasfrequency,timing,cellIDetc.)andsendthe
redirectionmessagetotheUE.Uponreceivingtheredirectionmessage,theUEwilla)release
thecurrentconnectionatthesourcecell,b)starttoacquirethetargetcell,andc)tryto
establishanewconnectionatthetargetcell.
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*whenahandoveristriggered,thesourcecell(orthenetwork)needstofirstcommunicatewith
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thenecessaryinformationabouttheconnectionatthetargetcell.Then,theUEwilla)leavethe
sourcecell(suspendbutnotreleasingthecurrentconnection),andb)acquirethetargetcelland
resumetheconnectiononthetargetcellwhichhasalreadybeenpreparedonthetargetside.
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1.Bothredirectionandhandoverappliestoconnectedstate.
1.Bothredirectionandhandovercanbemeasurementbasedorblind(asdiscussedinPetru's
message)
1.Thefundamentalconceptofredirectionandhandoverhasnotbeenchangedwithin3GPPand
itisapplicabletoalltheRATdefinedwithin3GPP(even3GPP2mostly).Inotherwords,the
conceptisindependentoftheRATs.Hence,youcanhaveredirectiongoingfromLTEtoLTEor
redirectionfromLTEtootherRAT.Thesameistrueforthehandover.
Therearemanymisunderstandingsinthediscussionsabove:
1.DuringCSFB,theinputoftheredirectionisnottheextendedservicerequest.Infact,the
eNBcanrequestUEtoperformameasurementbeforesendingtheredirectionmessage.Then,
thisismeasurementbasedredirection.Ifnomeasurementisrequested,thenetworkwillsimply
redirecttheUEbasedontheinformationitalreadyhas.Then,thisiscalledablindredirection.
1.The25.304referstoUMTSRATwherePCH/FACHstatesaredefinedforconnectedmode.
Inthosesubstates,thereselectionprocedureisdefinedandisthesameastheIdlemode.The
statement,however,doesnotapplytoLTE.InLTE,reselectionappliesonlytoIdlestate.
1.TheredirectionsentduringtheRRCconnectionsetupisaspecialcase,inwhichthereisno
existingRRCconnectiontoreleaseandthenetworkisalreadypreparingtheresourceatthe
targetcell.Thisredirectionisdefinedfromthenetworkperspective,butnotfromtheUE
perspective,becauseUEdoesnothaveanexistingconnectionyet.
4.RedirectioncanbesentwithRRCconnectionreleasemessage(suchasduringIRATor
CSFB)
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March22,2014
premchandjodukallu
HandoverisdonewhensourceeNBhavealltheinformationoftarget(Accessandcorenetwork
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level)andtargetinformationsenttoUEtolatch.
Inredirection:networkwillaskUEtoMovetoperticularRATbyprovingfrequency(rel8)ofor
cellID(rel9)
redirectioncausedelayintargetnetworklatching(duetocellreselection,authentiction..etc).
wherealltehkeysaresharedinHOanditisfaster.
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