Internet Discussion On Exercise

My life's work-
*ME* July 28 QuoteEditFlag
It's a powerpoint
I need opinions. Also, if someone could tell me how to
upload it so it plays in powerpoint formatting that'd be
good. Spread the word.
your body is not a burden on itself. it's what you ARE.
all living matter is one with your consciousness as yourself.
you must cease destroying yourself which you have labeled as a body and find your
TRUE human nature.
Person A July 28 QuoteFlag
There's something so wrong about your life work being a powerpoint presentation.
Also, you're far to young to have completed your life's work. This is just high
ramblings... not that there's anything wrong with that.
http://www.shittinginbuckets.com
Person B July 28 QuoteFlag
--Post edited by Person B at 2016-07-28 21:50:57

Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow;
Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.
Person C July 29 QuoteFlag
Nice work so far, it opens in scribd on my phone, I notice quite a few typos so far.
Some kindle books are shorter than this if you fix it up a bit you could probably
release it on Amazon :)
Also...bronies? Defending not exercising? Idk about that...some of it also just
degenerates into rambling. Also if you say some Chinese person makes a quarter
making an iPhone put an annotation in there because I'm not sure that's exactly
true. Also the grammar and sentence structure is lacking. Also it goes back and
forth between several topics jumping around the place. Keep it up though!
Post edited by Person C at 2016-07-28 23:57:09
Person D July 29 QuoteFlag
Read a few pages up to RBE. I completely agree that a RBE is the way to go in terms
of changing the world towards a better future. I've written down my own ideas on
how to get one started since both Zeitgeist and Venus Project don't seem to be
moving forward as fast as I'd like. The main issue I've found with an RBE is the
disillusion of a hierarchy pyramid or power vacuum where only a few would benefit.
However, I think an 'everyone and no one' approach towards this problem could be
applied successfully if the terms of whatever potential societal advancement is
created with this in mind as the core basis - everyone has power, yet no one person
does.
Person E July 29 QuoteFlag
Skimmed through it. First I would suggest making it a pdf, its a little annoying to
read on that scribd site as they block like 1/3 of the screen advertising their
subscription or whatever.
Secondly, how does this differ with communism/socialism boht of which already
have a wealth of literature and study involved in them?
Running updates and such. Thanks

But yeah my point is stress is what kills you and we need more anabolic rest.
Exercise of any kind = bad unless you have some kind of hobby/desire to do that.
You body has finite energy and ability to process food so you best be using it for
what you are actually doing with it rather than trying to attain some arbitrary fitness
goal in your life.
IDC about communism/socialism and am not versed in either concept beyond
"wealth is redistributed to such a degree." My premise is a tad beyond that--human
need has been corrupted into a gross caricature of what it ought to be and will
destroy us for no good reason. A mansion does not make you happy. You don't
KNOW what makes you happy because you live in a society which is constantly
programming you and filling you with poisons that make you complicit and dead
inside.
Capitalism is no longer a function of society. With no new major innovations to be
made, no one is going to strike it off rich. We are literally wasting enormous
amounts of resources (and this is where i suppose i differ) just in the same of
marketing and filling some big exec's wallet. In reality, we could be using
significantly less resources by working a sustainable framework that includes
sharing and at the same time spend less than half of the time we current spend on
labor.
The purpose of society is to make things more efficient--not to make a couple
hundred super wealthy people feel some false idea off happiness (meanwhile they
are all poisoning themselves as well as any of us as a result of the shitty society we
live in). We do not want to all be working a particular job just because our economy
has mandated everyone ought to be. MINIMIZE labor and MAINTAIN what is already
build so that we can all be free humans.
TRUE human nature.
I will refuse to take "this is just socialism/communism" as a legitimate critique of my

work. Speak in terms of reality, please. You are not doing the argument any good
justice.
TRUE human nature.
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There. Includes final draft and basic guide.
TRUE human nature.
Person E July 29 QuoteFlag
Are you saying that exercise and movement is bad for the human body?
Person F July 29 QuoteFlag
Person E said:
This was a very popular idea around the late 19th and early 20th centuries
especially amongst the wealthy. The Morgan family (JP Morgan) was big on this
theory, for example.
I dare say modern science has disproved such nonsense. But maybe OP can
expound* and prove that wrong.
* I did not read the powerpoint.
The grief we carry is part of the grief of the world. Hold it gently. Let it be honored.
You do not have to keep it in anymore. You can let go into the heart of compassion;
you can weep.
"Forgiveness is giving up all hopes of a better past."

- Jack Kornfield.
Person A July 29 QuoteFlag
Person F said:
Person E said:
This was a very popular idea around the late 19th and early 20th centuries
especially amongst the wealthy. The Morgan family (JP Morgan) was big on this
theory, for example.
I dare say modern science has disproved such nonsense. But maybe OP can
expound* and prove that wrong.

* I did not read the powerpoint.
+1 on question the "exercise is bad" theory. Pretty sure exercise has been
thoroughly demonstrated as healthy.
Nope. Exercise is ONLY good for making you good at that particular thing. It is killing
you in every other aspect. Doing nothing is the best thing for you. Resting.
TRUE human nature.
You can do mental exercise, which allocates more energy to your brain for future
brain stuff. But really, you only want to do things that you would already be doing.
Does this make sense? Stress will break your body down, just like any callus.
TRUE human nature.
*ME* said:
You can do mental exercise, which allocates more energy to your brain for future
brain stuff. But really, you only want to do things that you would already be doing.
Does this make sense? Stress will break your body down, just like any callus.
So you're saying that being essentially sedentary and doing mental exercises is
actually healthier than hiking, lifting weights, sprinting, etc?
You crazy, bro. Can you link anything to corroborate this idea?
The stress of lifting weights, for example, literally does the complete opposite of
break your body down.
you can weep.

- Jack Kornfield.
false. ALL stress is catabolic. Do your basic physiology.

if you took an athlete and let him spent half of his time resting doing nothing, he'd
be alert as a mutherfuck.
I guarantee you. Society is crazy with excess rigor and you're brainwashed.
TRUE human nature.
Ah, here's one thing your brains may like a bit more. I have mentioned passive
anabolic rest which contributes to better metabolism and better function during
catabolic activities, but consider the passive catabolic activity: flexing your internal
digestion muscles.
One of the things we don't notice is that our bodies use 100% of our energy. When
you quiet yourself and rest easily for a while, you notice your body has all kinds of
itches and pains. This is your nervous system crying out against all the bad things
ingrained in society that your bodies has to absorb and deal with.
So flex your rectum. Flex your belly. Fight the pain that I know you too would feel if
you'd only pay proper attention. Because it doesn't fix itself when you spend all that
time running fast.
BRO. YOUR BODY HAS FINITE ABILITY TO REPAIR ITSELF. WHY YOU STRESSING
MUSCLES FOR NO REASON? NONSENSE!
TRUE human nature.
*ME* said:
I might not have the basic physiology down but it seems like you're purposefully
ignoring the anabolic side of things. Sure, catabolism breaks the body down but
doesn't that very action lead to the anabolic process which takes those constituent
parts and uses it to rebuild?
And athletes do spend a lot of there time doing nothing. Sleeping, resting, etc.
That's when their body builds back up and their nervous system calms down.
And what do you mean by a finite ability to repair itself?
you can weep.

- Jack Kornfield.
By 'finite ability' are you making an assertion similar to the claim that we have a
finite number of heart beats?
you can weep.

- Jack Kornfield.
Person G July 31 QuoteFlag
If controlled exertion and physical stresses are supposed to be bad for the human
body then I need someone to explain this man:
Controlled cold exposure reduces inflammation both chronic and acute, increases
metabolism, and stimulates adrenal activity in the peripheral nervous system.
Controlled heat exposure stimulates the production of what are called heat shock
proteins, molecules essential for preventing the degradation of other proteins in the
body. And the benefits of cardiovascular exercise are too obvious to mention.
Controlled exposure to stress literally makes your body better at handling stress.
Not all stress, obviously. For example as far as I know there's no such thing as
healthy exposure to gamma radiation. But there are stresses which the human body
is supposed to be able to handle, and exposure to those stresses strengthen's the
body's capacity for handling them.
Every system in the human body is susceptible to atrophy. Why do astronauts'
bones degrade while they're in space? Because without the physical stress of
gravity the body ceases to repair its bone tissue. Same goes for cardiovascular
function, mental function, everything. The body does indeed have a finite capacity
for exertion. But the way to increase that capacity is through exercising it, not by
allowing it to atrophy.
And no, exercise is not only good for making you better at running or lifting weights
or whatever the exercise is. One of the basic capacities built by exercise is blood
oxygen carrying capacity. You know what needs a lot of oxygen? Your brain. In fact
the brain is highly dependent on the functioning of the entire metabolism. The
human body really is a holistic system; what improves the part improves the whole.
I don't want to undersell the importance of chilling the fuck out; we do in fact need
rest and we do seem to live in a society which refuses to acknowledge this. But if all
you ever do is chill out then your capacities will degrade to a level where doing
nothing is the height of your abilities. If you want to be able to do things then you
have to practice doing things.
it is what it is, it ain't what it's cracked up to be
I'll do a more detailed post later but this is madness.

YES he will OBVIOUSLY be more well-adapted to living in cold-weather environment.
The thing is--you body will do whatever it needs to to fit the ideal of what your
current environment and situation is.
Every calorie you spend is being used by your body no matter what you do. I want
to think of finite ability to sustain itself in terms of how long you would live, and
base health upon that. The weird thing is, i am more in tuned with this finiteness. I
can feel my body restoring itself and losing energy. I know what and when I'll have
to eat. And I am totally new to this, really. It just makes intuitive sense and if you
saw what i meant you would agree.
Say you're in the desert. You need to survive for as long as possible in hopes a plane
will spot you and your handy dandy mirror. You don't go running, you don't lay in the
sun--you try to be as passive as possible to retain your body.
None of this is pseudo-science. There are 3 states--ana/cata/meta-bola. We are
obsessed with the cata because that is the state our society encourages because
we still want to believe that we need to work hard to survive.
And you're right; your body WILL degrade--for all the things that no longer matter or
are relevant to survival or even being happy. It's all the ego--"I have to work hard to
be happy."
Don't exercise. No animals do it. You know cheetahs? They can only sprint for a very
short period of time. That's because all they're trying to do is catch that giraffe and
get it nice and dead. You think a cheetah that running around twice as much doing
nothing is a more successful cheetah? I think you're encouraging a dead cheetah,
my friend.
TRUE human nature.
"The human body really is a holistic system; what improves the part improves the
whole. "
This is a half-truth. More like a quarter, really. Yes, you will get better at other things
if you exercise but that is periphery. It would be like learning the clarinet in order to
practice the xylophone. I mean yeah, kung-fu will make you better at karate but if
your only goal is to get better at karate? Then...derp.
Think about what thinks you want your body to be good at, and focus on those
things. Yes, even simple "I want to enjoy video games as much as i did when i was
young" is a perfectly acceptable answer. If you want to get better at socializing here
is what you do--lay down, rest, and just imagine yourself in social situations. Run
through everything in your head. Are you gonna go run a mile now? NO. Everything
you do is running on a finite biological clock and every tick is a calorie spent on
GETTING BETTER AT WHAT IT'S ALREADY DOING (or wants to do).
Phooy. I spit on your sciences.
TRUE human nature.
JuiceBox July 31 QuoteFlag
*ME* said:
One of the things we don't notice is that our bodies use 100% of our energy. When
you quiet yourself and rest easily for a while, you notice your body has all kinds of
itches and pains. This is your nervous system crying out against all the bad things
ingrained in society that your bodies has to absorb and deal with.
So flex your rectum. Flex your belly. Fight the pain that I know you too would feel if
you'd only pay proper attention. Because it doesn't fix itself when you spend all that
time running fast.
Person G August 1 QuoteFlag
*ME* said:
Exercise is ONLY good for making you good at that particular thing. It is killing you in
every other aspect.
*ME* said:
You will get better at other things if you exercise but that is periphery.
Wait so what are you saying, that exercise is "killing" us? Or that it actually helps us
get better at a wide range of things? Or that it's merely a waste of time? Because at
this point you seem to have claimed all three.
*ME* said:
If you want to get better at socializing here is what you do--lay down, rest, and just
imagine yourself in social situations. Run through everything in your head.
Yeah, no. If you want to be better in social situations you have to put yourself in
social situations and be open to feedback from other people. You're not just going to
lie down and imagine yourself into being the life of the party in the absence of any
actual experience around people. Likewise, your back muscles are not just going to
strengthen themselves in the absence of any actual exertion.
*ME* said:
And you're right; your body WILL degrade--for all the things that no longer matter or
are relevant to survival or even being happy. It's all the ego--"I have to work hard to
be happy."
Guess what dude - your body is going to degrade even for things which DO matter
for survival. It's called aging, and I promise you it's coming sooner than you think.
When you're young, it's true, your body does just naturally improve itself from day
to day. That shit ends in your 20s and from that point on merely maintaining your
baseline health becomes an increasingly uphill battle.

Exercise is not killing anyone except the most deranged extremists. Cardiovascular
health promotes longevity, cognitive health, and pretty much literally everything
which is desirable about being human. By contrast a sedentary lifestyle is a recipe
for chronic pain, poor circulation, and depression. Spit on whatever science you
want, but these are facts.
Person I August 1 QuoteFlag
Person G said:
Vote Perot / Titor '92.
Person F August 1 QuoteFlag
*ME* said:
"The human body really is a holistic system; what improves the part improves the
whole. "
This is a half-truth. More like a quarter, really. Yes, you will get better at other things
if you exercise but that is periphery. It would be like learning the clarinet in order to
practice the xylophone. I mean yeah, kung-fu will make you better at karate but if
your only goal is to get better at karate? Then...derp.
Think about what thinks you want your body to be good at, and focus on those
things. Yes, even simple "I want to enjoy video games as much as i did when i was
young" is a perfectly acceptable answer. If you want to get better at socializing here
is what you do--lay down, rest, and just imagine yourself in social situations. Run
through everything in your head. Are you gonna go run a mile now? NO. Everything
you do is running on a finite biological clock and every tick is a calorie spent on
GETTING BETTER AT WHAT IT'S ALREADY DOING (or wants to do).
Phooy. I spit on your sciences.
So basically this theory is mostly bullshit and sophistry?
you can weep.

- Jack Kornfield.
*ME* August 1 QuoteEditFlag
"Wait so what are you saying, that exercise is "killing" us? Or that it actually helps
us get better at a wide range of things? Or that it's merely a waste of time? Because
at this point you seem to have claimed all three."
All forms of stress cause degradation. I may say "killing" you yes. It is a waste of
time if you are not trying to do get better at some kind of sport or hobby. And yes,
all forms of stress are periphery to other things your nervous system does (IE
playing chess may make you better at socializing but it is supposed to make you
better at chess. it's just peripheral like joe rogan has said before about
things--"getting better at any one thing improves your entire life." true, but this is
not ideal. but really, this is not the main point at all. i'm just trying to make
something apparent about the way your whole body works) so you will subtly get
better at other, somewhat related activities. Like, anything mental will generally
make you better at anything mental.
And no yeah dude ofc actually socializing would be best but i'm just talking about
like beforehand and that in general you can get better at things working on them in
their mind. What are you saying? I don't think practicing them IRL makes you
better? Gosh.
You're not listening to me man I keep saying that we need anabolic rest...no one
seems to understand that and you're just stuck in the idea of "i need to be able to
run fast so that i don't die." Retarded! If you want to get good at SSB games, then
you play the shit out of them (catabola) and then rest your brain and hand muscles
(anabola). The more you do both of those the better your overall metabolic function
will be! But ana and cata are both equal!
TRUE human nature.
I stand firm. Nothing changes. Please read added link on the subject of health.
All forms of stress are equal, and forms of stress are indicators to your body to get
better at that particular thing.
Post edited by *ME* at 2016-08-01 09:42:09
TRUE human nature.
Person F said:
*ME* said:
I might not have the basic physiology down but it seems like you're purposefully
ignoring the anabolic side of things. Sure, catabolism breaks the body down but
doesn't that very action lead to the anabolic process which takes those constituent
parts and uses it to rebuild?
And athletes do spend a lot of there time doing nothing. Sleeping, resting, etc.
That's when their body builds back up and their nervous system calms down.
And what do you mean by a finite ability to repair itself?
Ah, okay you're right. This is where i am actually wrong at the level of using words.
Okay like imagine a vertical line and the top of that line is the height of your
catabolic, calorie-burning activities and the bottom is the anabolic, restful activities.
The overall balance between the two is going to be represented by the middle-metabolic.
Because you body MOST (just to function) balance out the two equally, people who
exercise a lot are going to have a very large line, but their adaption will raise their
metabolism up to a much much higher center-point because their bodies are more
suited to stress. Their bodies have decided for them that long-term there is going to
be more stress and have adapted as such. Really, you want this line to be about as
close to nothing as possible. The closer it is to nothing, the more your body can
allocate all it's energy to happiness.
So one would probably want to designate several line charts, one for each aspect of
a person's physiology. If you are flat-lined, that would mean the ideal life-preserving
state. More time stressed = less life and energy. And remember you take in a huge
amount of passive stress in the form of pesticides and chemicals and not getting
proper nutrients in your diet.
TRUE human nature.
Person C August 1 QuoteFlag
Too much justifying of playing video games all day with no exercise...
*ME* said:
You're not listening to me man I keep saying that we need anabolic rest...
No one is saying we don't need it. No one is saying we don't need to sleep, either.
You on the other hand have said that we don't need exercise and that it's "killing"
us, which is ridiculous. Your points might come across clearer if you didn't wrap
them in so much hyperbole.
*ME* said:
Because you body MUST (just to function) balance out the two equally, people who
exercise a lot are going to have a very large line, but their adaption will raise their
metabolism up to a much much higher center-point because their bodies are more
suited to stress. Their bodies have decided for them that long-term there is going to
be more stress and have adapted as such.
This is right.
*ME* said:
Really, you want this line to be about as close to nothing as possible. The closer it is
to nothing, the more your body can allocate all it's energy to happiness.
And this is wrong. A body which is capable of handling high levels stress will tolerate
the stresses of everyday life better than a body which is not capable of handling
high levels of stress. Being able to tolerate stress well is a much more reliable route
to happiness than just trying to avoid stress altogether. If you make a habit of
avoiding stress then you will have a lowered capacity for handling stress, and then
every little stress in everyday life is going to roll you. Call me crazy but that sounds
like a terrible strategy for being happy.
*ME* said:
But ana and cata are both equal!
If they are both EQUAL then why are you advocating maximizing one while
minimizing the other?
i'm not. i'm saying they need to balance out in our lives. simply sleeping does not
do it when your body houses so much pain. no matter how much stress you think
our body is CAPABLE of handling, what you should WANT it to be handling is next to
none.
we need more rest in our waking lives, and we absolutely need to be rid of negative
external factor and creating unneeded stress. ofc, you should still be doing things
that constitute being alive i didn't say to sleep all day every day (unless you want to
recover from an injury or illness). cancer be cured by resting and giving your
immune system time to rebuild itself as it will do so as long as you want. i am

unmoved.
TRUE human nature.
ana and catabolic processes are always going on within your body even if you are
doing primarily one or the other. they must balance out. this is the function of your
body in all circumstances--to balance building up and breaking down. if you want to
get good at a sport, you can literally WORK YOURSELF TO DEATH and it will make
you better but you will always always always need compensation in rest to get back
up again.
but we're not all athletes. i think non-competitive sports are dumb. hell, i think
professional sports are dumb. we should all just be playing sports ourselves for the
fun of it--not having certain people throwing their bodies into a damn biological
hadron collider.
TRUE human nature.
like even laying down doing nothing my body will create stressors, usually in the
form of digestion and libido or memory recalls/planning out my day.
TRUE human nature.
yall are dumb could be having sex for hours a day and be just as healthy as running
a fuckin marathon.
TRUE human nature.
Person J August 1 QuoteFlag
*ME* said:
yall are dumb could be having sex for hours a day and be just as healthy as running
a fuckin marathon.
SO MUCH WASTED TIME

You've got the butterflies all tied up
Don't make me chase you
Even doves have pride
False. Sex breaks down the body and is killing you. It's better to just close your eyes
by yourself and think about sex.
Person J August 1 QuoteFlag
Person G said:
Ok, so I've been doing it the right way all along. I feel much better now.
You've got the butterflies all tied up
Don't make me chase you
Even doves have pride
Person G said:
Libido = stress, so you might want to just close your eyes and not think about
anything. Especially the Sta-Puft marshmallow man.
you can weep.

- Jack Kornfield.
Person A August 1 QuoteFlag
Well this turned out poorly.

Person H August 1 QuoteFlag
*ME* said:
All forms of stress are equal, and forms of stress are indicators to your body to get
better at that particular thing.
Where would kissing the grill of an 18wheeler in a head on collision fall on this
whacky spectrum of yours?
Also, could you fairly claim that the physical stress of a 20ton brick travelling at
70mph into your face is equal to the stress of stubbing your toe?
I don't really get what you meant here, friend.
But I do understand what you're saying in the overall sense, but you've taken things
a bit too far to the extreme end I think.
Post edited by Person H at 2016-08-01 18:50:33
Person K
I think this is quite angsty, work on your own angst and rewrite it, you might have a
good preteen/teen audience though
Person C said:
Put your sword away

Person K
Person G said:
say what you will. exercising is a choice, so is sex. choose what you think you'd
enjoy
when I say "all forms of stress" I obviously mean it's different for different
intensities. I thought that much was fairly obvious. mental = physical = emotional
TRUE human nature.
do what you feel comes naturally to you. libido is natural. play is natural. running 5
miles is not.
TRUE human nature.
Person A August 1 QuoteFlag
*ME* said:
miles is not.
But it is. We haven't shed these monkey bodies yet, and until we do, we'll need to
tame the beastlier parts of us.
Stress can be good in that it can cause a thing to become stronger. Do you grow
plants? Stress techniques can be very beneficial to yield.
but to the greater points about your writings; keep it up. Work work work, improve.
*ME* said:
miles is not.
Human = persistence hunter

you can weep.
- Jack Kornfield.
@Person F your facts have no power here

Person H said:
Person C said:
Put your sword away
*stuffs fully engorged sword back into my pants*
Person C said:
Person H said:
Person C said:
Put your sword away
Good. Now proceed aa an enlightened, kind spirit
Person K
Person H said:
Person C said:
Person H said:
Person C said:
Put your sword away
Good. Now proceed aa an enlightened, kind spirit
Thanks bro :)

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Running updates and such. Thanks

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I will refuse to take "this is just socialism/communism" as a legitimate critique of my

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"Forgiveness is giving up all hopes of a better past."

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expound* and prove that wrong.

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"Forgiveness is giving up all hopes of a better past."

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false. ALL stress is catabolic. Do your basic physiology.

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"Forgiveness is giving up all hopes of a better past."

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"Forgiveness is giving up all hopes of a better past."

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I'll do a more detailed post later but this is madness.

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baseline health becomes an increasingly uphill battle.

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Vote Perot / Titor '92.

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So basically this theory is mostly bullshit and sophistry?

"Forgiveness is giving up all hopes of a better past."

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it is what it is, it ain't what it's cracked up to be

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immune system time to rebuild itself as it will do so as long as you want. i am

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SO MUCH WASTED TIME

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"Forgiveness is giving up all hopes of a better past."

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I don't really get what you meant here, friend.

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stuffs fully engorged sword back into my pants

stuffs fully engorged sword back into my pants

stuffs fully engorged sword back into my pants