ations and Nationalism (journal)

From, the nation is not the cause, but the result of the state. It is the state t
hat creates the nation, not the nation the state. Every state is an artificial mec
hanism imposed upon [people] from above by some ruler, and it never pursues any
other ends but to defend and make secure the interests of privileged minorities
within society. Nationalism has never been anything but the political religion of
the modern state. [Nationalism and Culture, p. 200 and p. 201] It was created to
reinforce the state by providing it with the loyalty of a people of shared lingu
istic, ethnic, and cultural affinities. And if these shared affinities do not ex
ist, the state will create them by centralising education in its own hands, impo
sing an official language and attempting to crush cultural differences from the pe
oples within its borders.
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[ ]bright_viragomarch weather, lousy[S] 2 points 5 years ago
Graeber, quoted in the interview linked by WB2 below: "[in many societies throug
hout history] it's really important to remain in debt to people because debt in
a way is sociology, it is social relationships....There are plenty of societies
where people are giving each other gifts but you always give them back something
a little bit more or a little bit less than they gave you because if you give t
hem an exact equivalent you're really saying I don't want to have anything to do
with you any more."
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[ ]Leg-iron 1 point 5 years ago*
Pssst...
Just outside the text-box, lower right.
"Formatting help".
It da shnizzle, yo.
Edit back:
Yer welcome!
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[ ]WB2 3 points 5 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnOqanbHZi4
The author is interviewed by Thom Hartman.
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[ ]bright_viragomarch weather, lousy[S] 2 points 5 years ago
Thank you for that link! I checked the book out of the library and don't have a
copy handy to refresh my memory on some key points.
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[ ]davetoWhat? 3 points 5 years ago
Observation.
Imagine 'botf' as a society.
And then think of the comment of overpaying or underpaying instead of exactly pa
ying the debt, in order to have a reason to remain tethered to your transaction
partner.
This is exactly what we do here. Our tribal instincts (but with posts instead of
chickens and goats).
[e.g. Leg-iron (felt) overpaid you for your post, later felt bad and apologized
for it (i.e. the obligation he left you). Snolly (felt) he underpaid, showed a m
ild bit of embarrassment. etc.]
Or not. You know ..
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[ ]bright_viragomarch weather, lousy[S] 2 points 5 years ago