Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 am Post subject: RCC Design of Swimming Pool.

Dear all, Respected Sefians,

Pl. help me out with the RCC design of Swimming Pool.
How to carry out the analysis and design part.
i have to design the swimming pool of size 25m X 50m X 2.1m.if any software is there for the design
pl. send me.
another question is that, is there any software for the design of Underground tank by Limit state
method, pl. send me the link if any.

Regards,

Chetan

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Dr. N. Subramanian Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject:
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Dear Er Chetan,

You have to design it as underground water tank.

You may use IS 3370:2009.

Best wishes
NS

chetan_kapadia wrote:
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Dear all, Respected Sefians,
Posts: 5140 Pl. help me out with the RCC design of
Location: Gaithersburg, MD, U.S.A. Swimming Pool.
How to carry out the analysis and design part.
i have to design the swimming pool of size
25m X 50m X 2.1m.if any software is there for
the design pl. send me.
another question is that, is there any software
for the design of Underground tank by Limit
state method, pl. send me the link if any.

Regards,

Chetan

_________________
<p>
Dr.Subramanian Narayanan
</p>
23 Napa Valley Road, Gaithersburg, MD 20878
 USA
<p>

</p>
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vikram.jeet Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:50 am Post subject:

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Swimming Pool design

A] Subsoil water level low (even during

monsoon)

Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Walls are designed as cantilever retaining walls

Posts: 2212 Base slab - - This can be in two zones , the thick
Ret wall -base slab all along
periphery supporting retaining wall and having
thickness same as wall base
( width =450mm toe overhang plus H as heel in
pool)
H=wall height
Inner base slab can be nominal thick 150mm to
200mm

Joint between thick base and nominal base to be

provided
with GI water stop ,but full reinf continuity of
nominal base reinf into thick base.

B] Subsoil water level high

Walls are designed as cantilever retaining walls
Base slab - - Stability of structure against
floatation is required.This can be
achieved thru (i) lean conc filling over rcc base
slab (ii) or by providing
down stand rcc beams at base with sufficient
overhang of base outside to
mobilise soil weight for stability (iii) or A mix of
two options in form of upstand
base beams with rcc base slab at bottom and lean
mix filling over it upto
upstand beam level.
The structure will be designed for 25m span
against uplift

Structure can be designed as per IS3370-2009

using WSM /or using LSM
 best regds

vikramjeet

Dear all, Respected Sefians, Pl. help me out with

the RCC design of Swimming Pool. How to carry
out the analysis and design part.i have to design
the swimming pool of size 25m X 50m X 2.1m.if
any software is there for the design pl. send me.
another question is that, is there any software for
the design of Underground tank by Limit state
method, pl. send me the link if any.Regards,
Chetan
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venkatesh
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:51 am Post subject:
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Dear Chetan
Lot of discussions had been held in this forum
which you can get by searching underground
water tanks.
Please browse following link where you can find
some information on water Tanks
http://theconstructor.org/structures/water-
tanks/996/

Thanks & regards

Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Venkateshwar Rao
Posts: 209

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chetan_kapadia
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:19 am Post subject:
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Joined: 21 Nov 2011 THANK YOU SIR FOR REPLYING ME.
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es_jayakumar Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:55 am Post

General Sponsor subject: Hi

The following book deals with design of swimming

pools too, with one worked out example,
though based on BS 8007
ANALYSIS AND DESIGN PRACTICE OF HYDRAULIC
CONCRETE STRUCTURES by Karunmoy Ghosh,
Joined: 24 Nov 2011
Posts: 998
published by Prentice Hall of India.
Location: Cochin
Regards,

ES Jayakumar

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Dr. N. Subramanian Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject:
General Sponsor Re: Hi

It is only Rs 195!

es_jayakumar wrote:
The following book deals with design of
swimming pools too, with one worked out
example, though based on BS 8007
ANALYSIS AND DESIGN PRACTICE OF HYDRAULIC
CONCRETE STRUCTURES by Karunmoy Ghosh,
published by Prentice Hall of India.
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Regards,
Posts: 5140
Location: Gaithersburg, MD, U.S.A.
ES Jayakumar

_________________
<p>
Dr.Subramanian Narayanan
</p>
23 Napa Valley Road, Gaithersburg, MD 20878
USA
 <p>

</p>
(cdcstruct.com)

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vikram.jeet Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:30 am Post subject:

General Sponsor RCC Design of Swimming Pool.

Subject : Rainfall intensity

The values of ranifall intensity at any place are

given as AVERAGE of rainfall
for one hour.
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 The value of rainfall at particular place as read
Posts: 2212 from data needs to be converted
to rainfall of shorter durations (may be 5 to
10minutes ) by multiplying with enhancement
Factor.
Please refer to IRC SP-42
5 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =3.7
10 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =2.85
15 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =2.4
20 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =2.08
30 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =1.67
40 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =1.33
50 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =1.17
60 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor
=1.0
90 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =0.834
120 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =0.667

The rainfall duration

It has to match with time of concentration at
location
of drainage section.
If drains are in vicinity the TOC will be less than 5
minutes.
But for main drains far-off TOC will be higher and
rainfall storm
can be taken appropriately.

Kindly see the drainage example given in IRC SP-

42 for road project.

best regds

vikramjeet
 Dear All, We are using the rainfall intensity in mm
per hour for the design of the storm water
drainage system. The value varies from place to
place. For example we may take 120 mm per hour
in Cherapunji and 25 mm per hour in rajasthan.
But the basis of taking this value is not known and
it is confusing even if I took the comparison of
IMD data for the particular area. Is this value a
conversion of the rainfall in mm for some minutes
to hour? For example if a rainfall is 40 mm per 30
minutes(heavy rain in this particular duration),
then can we simply take 80 mm per hour as
rainfall intensity which can be taken for the
design. Or any other basis for this. If you have
any realistic IMD data in line with design rainfall
intensity taken for a particular project, please
share with us. Regards, Pradeep
--

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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 am Post subject: RCC Design of Swimming Pool.

Dear all, Respected Sefians,

Pl. help me out with the RCC design of Swimming Pool.
How to carry out the analysis and design part.
i have to design the swimming pool of size 25m X 50m X 2.1m.if any software is there for the design
pl. send me.
another question is that, is there any software for the design of Underground tank by Limit state
method, pl. send me the link if any.

Regards,

Chetan

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Dr. N. Subramanian Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject:
General Sponsor Re: RCC Design of Swimming Pool.
 Dear Er Chetan,

You have to design it as underground water tank.

You may use IS 3370:2009.

Best wishes
NS

chetan_kapadia wrote:

Joined: 21 Feb 2008

Posts: 5140
Location: Gaithersburg, MD, U.S.A.
Dear all, Respected Sefians,
Pl. help me out with the RCC design of
Swimming Pool.
How to carry out the analysis and design part.
i have to design the swimming pool of size
25m X 50m X 2.1m.if any software is there for
the design pl. send me.
another question is that, is there any software
for the design of Underground tank by Limit
state method, pl. send me the link if any.

Regards,

Chetan

_________________
<p>
Dr.Subramanian Narayanan
</p>
23 Napa Valley Road, Gaithersburg, MD 20878
USA
<p>

</p>
(cdcstruct.com)

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vikram.jeet Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:50 am Post subject:

General Sponsor RCC Design of Swimming Pool.

Swimming Pool design

A] Subsoil water level low (even during

monsoon)

Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Walls are designed as cantilever retaining walls

Posts: 2212 Base slab - - This can be in two zones , the thick
Ret wall -base slab all along
periphery supporting retaining wall and having
 thickness same as wall base
( width =450mm toe overhang plus H as heel in
pool)
H=wall height
Inner base slab can be nominal thick 150mm to
200mm

Joint between thick base and nominal base to be

provided
with GI water stop ,but full reinf continuity of
nominal base reinf into thick base.

B] Subsoil water level high

Walls are designed as cantilever retaining walls
Base slab - - Stability of structure against
floatation is required.This can be
achieved thru (i) lean conc filling over rcc base
slab (ii) or by providing
down stand rcc beams at base with sufficient
overhang of base outside to
mobilise soil weight for stability (iii) or A mix of
two options in form of upstand
base beams with rcc base slab at bottom and lean
mix filling over it upto
upstand beam level.
The structure will be designed for 25m span
against uplift

Structure can be designed as per IS3370-2009

using WSM /or using LSM

best regds

vikramjeet

Dear all, Respected Sefians, Pl. help me out with

the RCC design of Swimming Pool. How to carry
out the analysis and design part.i have to design
the swimming pool of size 25m X 50m X 2.1m.if
any software is there for the design pl. send me.
another question is that, is there any software for
the design of Underground tank by Limit state
method, pl. send me the link if any.Regards,
Chetan
--

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venkatesh
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:51 am Post subject:
General Sponsor

Dear Chetan
Lot of discussions had been held in this forum
which you can get by searching underground
water tanks.
Please browse following link where you can find
some information on water Tanks
http://theconstructor.org/structures/water-
tanks/996/

Thanks & regards

Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Venkateshwar Rao
Posts: 209

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chetan_kapadia
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:19 am Post subject:
SEFI Member

THANK YOU SIR FOR REPLYING ME.

Joined: 21 Nov 2011
Posts: 15

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es_jayakumar Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:55 am Post

General Sponsor subject: Hi

The following book deals with design of swimming

pools too, with one worked out example,
though based on BS 8007
ANALYSIS AND DESIGN PRACTICE OF HYDRAULIC
CONCRETE STRUCTURES by Karunmoy Ghosh,
Joined: 24 Nov 2011
Posts: 998
published by Prentice Hall of India.
Location: Cochin
Regards,

ES Jayakumar
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Dr. N. Subramanian Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject:
General Sponsor Re: Hi

It is only Rs 195!

es_jayakumar wrote:
The following book deals with design of
swimming pools too, with one worked out
example, though based on BS 8007
ANALYSIS AND DESIGN PRACTICE OF HYDRAULIC
CONCRETE STRUCTURES by Karunmoy Ghosh,
published by Prentice Hall of India.
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
Regards,
Posts: 5140
Location: Gaithersburg, MD, U.S.A.
ES Jayakumar

_________________
<p>
Dr.Subramanian Narayanan
</p>
23 Napa Valley Road, Gaithersburg, MD 20878
USA
<p>

</p>
(cdcstruct.com)

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vikram.jeet Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:30 am Post subject:

General Sponsor RCC Design of Swimming Pool.

Subject : Rainfall intensity

The values of ranifall intensity at any place are

given as AVERAGE of rainfall
for one hour.
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 The value of rainfall at particular place as read
Posts: 2212 from data needs to be converted
to rainfall of shorter durations (may be 5 to
10minutes ) by multiplying with enhancement
Factor.
Please refer to IRC SP-42
5 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =3.7
10 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =2.85
15 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =2.4
20 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =2.08
30 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =1.67
40 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =1.33
50 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =1.17
60 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor
=1.0
90 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =0.834
120 minutes stotm - - - Multiplying factor =0.667

The rainfall duration

It has to match with time of concentration at
location
of drainage section.
If drains are in vicinity the TOC will be less than 5
minutes.
But for main drains far-off TOC will be higher and
rainfall storm
can be taken appropriately.

Kindly see the drainage example given in IRC SP-

42 for road project.

best regds

vikramjeet

Dear All, We are using the rainfall intensity in mm

per hour for the design of the storm water
drainage system. The value varies from place to
place. For example we may take 120 mm per hour
in Cherapunji and 25 mm per hour in rajasthan.
But the basis of taking this value is not known and
it is confusing even if I took the comparison of
IMD data for the particular area. Is this value a
conversion of the rainfall in mm for some minutes
to hour? For example if a rainfall is 40 mm per 30
minutes(heavy rain in this particular duration),
then can we simply take 80 mm per hour as
rainfall intensity which can be taken for the
design. Or any other basis for this. If you have
any realistic IMD data in line with design rainfall
intensity taken for a particular project, please
share with us. Regards, Pradeep
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