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VICTORIA JOY SEMINAR

FLORIDA, 2002
DAY ONE
Tape 1, Side A / VJ = Victoria Joy, AM = Audience member(s)
VJ: (Starts mid-sentence) What does it tell the judge?
AM: Well, some of the judges I deal with dont listen to that.
VJ: Okay, thats good, then. What hes doing well find this out tomorrow, in fact hes taking full commercial liability for
his actions then. I mean to show you something under 70 Am. Jur. 2d, subsection 90, thats really going to blow your
mind. In fact, I brought a copy of it and I think Ill get to it by the end of tonight, anyhow.
AM: What was that cite again?
VJ: 70 Am. Jur. 2d, subsection 90. Ill give you a copy that you can go look at, because Am. Jur. is the same
everywhere, it doesnt matter on that. But, basically, in a nutshell, what it says is: If any police officer, sheriff or other law
enforcement agent misunderstands or misinterprets the law, he is personally liable. Whoa!
AM: Say that again?
VJ: If any law enforcement officer misunderstands or misapplies misinterprets or misapplies the law, he is personally
liable. Now I want you to understand why that has to be. Who does he work for?
AM: The city?
VJ: A city, a county, some agency; right? Can a city or a county or a state or a federal government make a mistake?
Nope, theyre dead entities. Theyre dead entities. They cant make a mistake. Can this building make a mistake? Id
like to see it. Id like be here the day it did. Yes, sir.
AM: Would that go for a building inspector as well?
VJ: Well, thats a good question. Whats your name?
AM: Chris.
VJ: Chris, thats a good question. Ill tell you what, Ive been researching to find out if it goes for anybody other than law
enforcement, and it is so well hidden. When you see how this was hidden, this 70 Am. Jur. section was hidden, Im sure
its there. Its got to be there, but I have not been able to find it and Ive been looking for it myself for about eight months.
Actually, longer than that. I found this when I was in Tucson last March, and since last March I have been looking. Thats
almost a year, and every time I get down the Am. Jur., I just start looking through some of the indexes and stuff, and Ill
tell you, I cant find it, but I know its there, probably not called what Im looking for, but its got to be there. Its got to be
there. Its there somewhere.
Okay. Now, when you go back over to page 3 here it says, Think. We have learned to think of red as an attribute or a
quality. It is more appropriate to think of red as a product of your own individual eyes, brain and nervous system.
Valentines Day was yesterday. Did anybody here buy their sweetheart some red roses? Nice guy, one in a million here,
it looks like. Either that or some of you wont admit it. I dont know. If you said roses are red, you couldnt prove it. First
of all, only some roses are, right?
AM: Yes.
VJ: But, again, theres absolutely no way to prove those roses are red, even if you used a machine that told you that the
wave length that was sent back from that petal emitted the wave length that we attribute to be red, because the key words
are we attribute. You see?
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AM: Stipulate.
VJ: Yes. You can prove nothing! There may be times when youll feel really stupid tonight, but thats going to be so
freeing, such a weight off your shoulders.
Okay. Who in here would like to describe a unicorn to me?
AM: A horse with a big, long horn.
VJ: A horse with a big, long horn? A horn on its butt?
AM: The center of its forehead.
VJ: Oh, the center of its forehead. Okay. Let me see if I cant give you some sort of a rendition here. (Minor disruption
looking for writing tools)
Lets see here. Can you be a little more specific as to what you said? You said that it was horse; right?
AM: Yes.
VJ: Okay, and you said that it had a horn in the middle of its forehead?
AM: A spiral horn --
VJ: Oh, were getting really fancy here. Okay, right here about? Does it go up or does it go out?
AM: It goes out.
VJ: It goes out.
AM: About 45 degrees.
VJ: All right. So its sort of spiral like that?
AM: Yes.
VJ: Okay. Is there anybody here who would disagree with that being a unicorn?
AM: (Laughter)
VJ: Everybody agrees that thats what a unicorn is?
AM: (Numerous responses) Its imagination anyhow. There is no such thing.
VJ: There is no such thing? Prove it.
AM: Okay.
VJ: Got you.
AM: I think its just romantic imagination.
VJ: It is? Youre sure about that?
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VJ: Well, now, where have you been? Have you been to Borneo lately?
AM: I havent been to the unicorn ranch.
VJ: You havent been to the unicorn ranch. Have you looked under every leaf out there in the Philippines? Who can tell
me whether there is or is not a unicorn? Do you understand what Im saying?
AM: Yeah.
VJ: And yet you described one and we all seem to recognize it as one. Interesting thought, isnt it? Okay. How can you
describe something you dont know whether or not it exists? I can tell you. All you have to do is ask the government
every day.
Now Im going to tell you something about the fingerprint theory. How many of you have heard that no two people have
exactly the same fingerprints? Oh, my God. How many of you believe it? Oh, some of you do. How in the world is it
possible to know that no two people have the same fingerprints?
AM: Good question.
VJ: Good question, isnt it? You see, how long has mankind been walking the face of this earth? God only knows, and I
mean that literally. Do you dare tell me that somebody back there walking in the time of Christ, walking in the time of
Julius Caesar, walking in the time of Hannibal; can you dare to tell me that any of those people didnt have the same
fingerprints as you?
AM: No, not without examining all of them.
VJ: Not without examining all of them. And, yet, look how many of you believe that and look how many people get
incriminated and thrown in jail on that theory alone!
AM: You didnt say how many believed it, you said how many heard about it.
VJ: Oh, I said how many believe it. My second question was, how many believe it, and some of you put your hands
down, because you remembered that first story. Okay? Do you understand what I just told you? That unless you have
examined every single fingerprint of every single living soul that has ever or will ever walk the face of this earth, nobody
could ever prove that there are not two sets of fingerprints exactly alike? So what has to happen? They get up there and
they show you and your lawyer, who sits next to you, your wonderful criminal defense lawyer or your wonderful public
pretender, and they show you that you have 14 matching points. Isnt that the key right now? If 14 match, that must be
you? And you buy it and you defend against it. You say, Okay, Ill buy that one. Im shopping today. Ill buy that theory.
Thats why I dont shop. Unless you look at every new baby thats born tonight under the leaves in Borneo and in the
cabbage patch in South Africa, you cannot tell me that is a true theory. You cant. But we sure got a lot of people buying
it and going to jail for it, dont we?
And Ill tell you an even sadder story, and this is one that I got involved with, and it goes on, I think, to the next story here.
A red spotted salamander lives on Farmer Browns property. Now, that wasnt the mans real name, obviously. I went to
visit my aunt and uncle up in Coeur dAlene, Idaho, and just being the way that I am, nosy and butting into everybodys
business, I saw these signs posted on the telephone poles that said, Helen Chenowith, State Senator from Idaho is going
to have a town meeting tonight. And I nudged my aunt and said, What are we doing tonight? She said, Nothing, but
do you want to go there? I mean, heres beautiful Coeur dAlene to look at. I said, I want to go. She said, All right,
well go. So she, my uncle and I went and sat in the front row. I wanted to hear everything that was going on, and the
first that happened was dear, old, sweet Helen Chenowith stood up there and said, Ladies and gentlemen, Im here today
to have this town meeting for you people, because I care so much about you. And I really want to take your concerns with
me back to Washington, D.C. What are your concerns? And there was a whole row of men sitting up in the back row
and they all had their notebooks and their notepads and their pens and pencils poised over their paper. And one raised
his hand, stood up and said, Im the editor of such and such newspaper and we want to know, Ms. Chenowith, if you
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property because of this little red salamander. And she said, Oh, yes, I have the courage to do that. Does anybody
here have any ideas on how we can do it?
I looked around and I was the only one with my hand up. I didnt even live in Idaho, but I had an idea. So she had no
choice but to call on me. I stood up and I said, Ms. Chenowith, would you be willing to go into your committee and ask
them if they can prove that salamander would die if Farmer Brown didnt move? Would you be willing to go into that
committee and ask them if that salamander would live if Farmer Brown did move? Would you be willing to go into that
committee and ask them if they can prove that God didnt have the salamanders name on his books on this day the way
he did the dinosaurs? And she looked at me and said, Why dont you sit down. It sounds like you have some really
good ideas and meet me afterwards out in the rotunda and well talk. What do you think happened?
AM: I say, nothing.
VJ: You never saw high heels click across a marble rotunda as fast in your life as Helen Chenowith running for her
limousine. This is the truth.
AM: Yeah.
VJ: And those guys came down from that top row and surrounded me. Where are you from? Im just a little old lady
from California. I know nothing. Those guys asked me, and I said, Hey, does that make sense? Hey, federal
government, Im Farmer Brown, Ill be happy to move if you can show me that salamander wont die anyhow. Ill be happy
to stay if youll show me he can still live, but better yet, show me how you know that God doesnt have the extinction date
of that salamander written down in his books the way he did the dinosaurs. And, boy, did she shut me up after that.
Why?
AM: They cant prove a negative.
VJ: Because they cant prove any of it either way, could they? You know, this makes me cry. They were waiting for
Farmer Brown to buy that story that the salamander was going to die if they didnt have Farmer Browns land.
AM: If I was Farmer Brown, that salamander would have died. (Laughter)
VJ: Milton says, for the record, if I was Farmer Brown that salamander would have died. Okay. Well, the people in Idaho
I got invited to a couple more meetings, obviously, after that. At one of them, it was so funny, there was something
about a spotted owl, also, that they were trying to protect up there and they had this box of Hamburger Helper and where
it said Hamburger Helper they put Spotted Owl Helper. Catch the spotted owls and cook them up with the Hamburger
Helper mix.
But what Im trying to prove to you is that no one can prove anything. So if no one can prove anything, then all you have
to do is shift the burden of proof over onto them, right? And say something to the effect of, Hey, Ill be happy to move if
you just show me where you can prove that salamander will live if I leave. How can they prove that? Theres no way.
And show me that hes going to die if I stay. Well, which one would you pick? Well, Ill stay and lets see if it dies. Do you
understand how that can diffuse what the federal government was trying to do right there? And Im just a little old dumb
lady. Do you see? So its not hard, is it? All you have to do is take that burden of proof and shove it back on them and
stop buying their stories. Stop buying the fingerprint theory.
Okay. Now that we have you absolutely disbelieving everything, were going to go back to the same kind of story we did
at first, so go back to page 1. Im going to read you a different story now, and I bet you at least 50% of you are going to
get them all right now, and, hopefully, maybe more. So were back here on page 2. This one has 15 questions. Do you
see where its continued on page 3? Same answers I erased off the board, but you know what they are, dont you? Plus
true, zero for false and question mark for not sure.
Are we ready? Remember the rules. I can read the story as many times as you want. Ill go back and read it to you. Ill
repeat any questions you want. All right, here we go. Number One: Stephanie and her friend walked into the music store
after lunch. Stephanie wanted to buy the new CD by the group called No Girls Allowed. There was only one other person
in the store when Stephanie and her friend arrived. Stephanie asked, How much is this CD? Stephanies friend said,
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Here, let me see it. I dont think he heard you. This tag says it costs $11.99. I didnt say there was any sense to the
story, stop looking for a punch line. I just want to test your ability to hear and draw inferences. All right, Ill read the story
again. Now youve got the general overall picture. (Repeats above)
Okay. Number one: Stephanie wanted to buy a CD. Plus for true, zero for false, question mark for not sure. Two:
Stephanie and her friend ate lunch together. How many doubting Thomas have we just sprouted? Number three:
Stephanie owns a CD player. Number four: There was only one boy in the store. Number five: Two girls walked into the
music store. Number Six: There are no boys in the group called No Girls Allowed. Number Seven: Stephanie and her
friend are teenagers. Number Eight: The stores owner didnt hear Stephanie because the music was too loud. Number
Nine: Stephanie had enough money to buy the CD. Number Ten: The No Girls Allowed CD cost $11.99. You guys are
cocky. I dont even have to read it after that one, boy. Number Eleven: The owner of the store is a woman. Number
Twelve: Stephanie wanted to buy the CD as a gift. Number Thirteen: One of the CDs cost $11.99. Number Fourteen:
There were two boys in the store. Number Fifteen: The clerk was hard of hearing.
I dont have to read it again?!? All right. Number One: Stephanie wanted to buy a CD. True. So Stephanie and her
friend walked into the music store after lunch. Stephanie wanted to buy the new CD by the group. Okay. Number Two:
Stephanie and her friend ate lunch together. Talk about reaching for it. It says they came in after lunch together, but it
doesnt mean they didnt meet after they had lunch separately. Number Three: Stephanie owns a CD player. Dont
know. Number Four: There was only one boy in the store. Dont know. The friend could have been a boy. Number
Five: Two girls walked into the music store. Okay, dont know, because the friend could have been a boy. It just says
Stephanie and her friend. Number Six: There are no boys in the No Girls Allowed group. That was just thrown in to
make you think. Dont know. Number Seven: Stephanie and her friend are teenagers. Dont know. Number Eight: The
stores owner didnt hear Stephanie because the music was too loud. Dont know. I told you guys you knew nothing.
Youre just agreeing with me now. I think weve got a stipulation here. Number Nine: Stephanie had enough money to
buy the CD. Dont know. Number Ten: The No Girls Allowed CD cost 11.99.
AM: A CD costs that, but we dont know.
VJ: Great. Didnt trick anybody, huh? Well, you guys got smart real quick, didnt you? If I stay another three hours your
wives wont be able to stand you. You can say that with a straight face.
Number Eleven: The owner of the store is a woman. Dont know. Number Twelve: Stephanie wanted to buy the CD as
a gift. Dont know. Number Thirteen: One of the CDs cost 11.99.
AM: True.
VJ: Ahh, got you, got you. The label said 11.99. Could somebody have taken the label off of a teddy bear and put it on
the CD? Hello? Okay, but thats not bad. Its a reach, but its still possible. What you dont want to do is exclude any
possibility.
Fourteen: There were two boys in the store. Dont know. Fifteen: The clerk was hard of hearing. Dont know.
But now Im going to tell you a true story thats almost as outrageous. I was in a big battle with a county counsel and a
district attorney up in a particular county shes laughing because she served them all the process, and every time they
saw her coming, they ran. One day a friend of mine sent me an article out of the newspaper. They spent almost two
pages on me, and one of the statements they had my picture in there looking like a mug shot and all this. Now, one of
the statements was that I was a brown shoe in a tuxedo world. Okay, are you getting an inference from that? Are you
getting a picture? Then the statement that followed that said, She doesnt believe the laws of the United States pertain to
her. Now, do you understand what they did? They set your mind that I am a brown shoe in a tuxedo world, ergo,
misfit of some sort; right? Probably one of those patriot kooks. Now when you read the second sentence, which said,
She doesnt believe the laws of the United States pertain to her. What are you supposed to infer?
AM: That they do.
VJ: Shes wrong. They do. Do they say that?
AM: No.
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VJ: Not in a heartbeat. They let the reader do all the work. They let the reader do all of the inferring from that. So I just
wrote back and I said, I may be a brown shoe in a tuxedo world, but at least I dont go walking through the cow piles in
the field every day like Mr. So-and So does. He can take his tuxedo shoes and walk through cow piles. You see, but its
kind of interesting how they want you to make these inferences. I see this all the time in the newspapers. He doesnt
think the tax laws apply to him. And half or more than half of the people go, Oh, what a dumb, crumb, bum, cheapskate,
wont pay his fair share! I mean, every inference in the world. Do you see? But they dont say it, do they? They let
your mind do all the work.
Now Im going to tell you why they let your mind do all the work, because you have a brain that is so stupid nobodys
left yet that it wont trust your own eyes. So Im going to do a little test now with your eyes, and were going to see if
your brain trusts your eyes. Now, if you have a brain thats trained not to trust your eyes, which will you trade in? Your
eyes or your brain? Interesting question.
This is a little bumper sticker I had designed and made up. Its kind of fun to put these on your car and watch the cops
eyeballs come out their heads. It says, Strawman secured, your move.
Oh, l-i-e-n, lien, the lien is choking the strawman. This is for those of you who are not quite into the redemption yet. This
is all that really happens, and Im going to talk a little bit about that, either tonight or tomorrow. And then redemption, of
course, is there so when you see how what were doing is so tied into scripture, its going to blow your mind. What Im
going to do now is show you a list of six sentences. (Performs a test on can you trust your own brain.) The trick is to get
your brain to start catching onto this faster and faster.
Sample One (only): One thousand one, one thousand two. Now, dont be afraid to answer just because I may jump on
you. What does number one say?
AM: Time to go to bed.
VJ: Time to go to bed. Whats number two say?
AM: (Everybody talking at once.)
VJ: Whats number three say?
VJ: Number four?
VJ: Number five?
VJ: Number six?
VJ: Now, watch what it really said. Watch my fingers, they never leave my hand. You notice I didnt change this, right?
Its time to to go to bed. How many of you didnt see the second to in there? The bed is way to to soft. I cant fall
fall asleep. You you can try to sleep.
Now, at a workshop in Escondido some lady went, There was a typo in that one. Fluff up the the pillow. Its no use
use at all. Theres a double word in every one of those sentences. Now, its going to be kind of interesting for you to
watch your own paper and see what you did here. On the first one, a lot of people wrote, Its time now to go to bed. Im
going to tell you what happened if you did that. Your brain said, Wait a minute, that doesnt make sense. Its time to to
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go to bed. Nobody talks like that, numb nuts. So Im going to be your brain here, and Im going to change that eyeball,
you stupid eyeball, and Im going to make it say something that makes sense. So some of you may have put, Its time
now to go to bed, or something else that would have made sense. Do you understand what I just told you?
The bed is way too too soft. Now, that one actually does make sense; okay?
I cant fall fall asleep. Some of you just wrote I cant fall asleep, because the brain said, You dumb ninny, eyeball,
nobody would write that word twice. Youd have to be a flaming idiot, so I know you didnt see that. So Im going to make
it make sense.
AM: I wrote, I cant fall fast asleep.
VJ: Oh! I cant fall fast asleep. Some put I cant yet fall asleep. Do you understand what your brain just did? It took
what your eyeball saw, it recognized that your eyeball saw an extra word in there, but it couldnt stand the fact that it didnt
make sense, so it changed it to something that did. How many of you are ready to trade in your brain for a new one right
about now? You cant trust it, can you? Do you see what it just did?
AM: Half the time.
VJ: Half the time. You can trust it half the time? Good, how do you know which half?
You know, that reminds me of a true story. I used to date an airline pilot, and we were in San Francisco and he turned
down a one-way street where theres five lanes of traffic coming up and I looked at him and said, Jim, Jim, what are
doing? Were going down a one-way street. Did you see the sign? And he said, Oh, I dont read the signs. I said,
You dont read the signs? How do you drive if you dont read the signs? He said, Well, I only read half of them. Its,
like, how do you decide which half to read? Thats a true story.
Fluff up the the pillow. Somebody saw Fluff up the big pillow. I mean, if you cant trust your own brain, who can you
trust? The next time your wife says you heard something wrong, youd better believe her.
Its no use use at all. How many of you got them all right? You see? Not one of you, because your brain refused to
accept something that did not make sense. Do you think that the government relies on that evidence?
AM: Absolutely.
VJ: Oh, no, not them. Were going to talk tomorrow about how they do. Its going to blow your mind. Okay? So
another little test for your dear, sweet eyeballs here. If you saw, Many a good man had fallen. What your brain did was
fill in the blanks. Your brain connected the dots. Your brain made sense out of it, because it cant stand to have
something thrown at it that it cant make sense out of. So you put it all together for them. You help them immensely, dont
you? Yes, and when I show you tomorrow a couple of actual documents taken right out of the files of the California
government and how Im going to trick you with them, its going to prove to you that youre doing what Im showing you
that youre doing here. You see, in reality, theres nothing on there but a bunch of lines and squiggles and Ls and
sideways Ls and number sevens, etc. You see, thats all thats there, but your brain had to make some sense of it so it
connected the dots. Are we having fun yet?
At the top of page 4 it says, Are inferences fact? How many of you here would say, Yes, inferences are fact? How
many of you would say, No, inferences are not fact? I just gave you an example of me being a brown shoe in a tuxedo
world and then making a statement that I dont think the laws of the United States apply to me, and the inference you are
to get is, What a dumb, scum bucket traitor she is, right? Without saying that its true, because why would the U.S.
government lie to me? Well let you infer that they do, because Im a brown shoe in a tuxedo world and I cant be
believed, can I? There is an inference to be drawn from that colorization of fact inferences. No, theres stipulations,
remember? Nothing is a fact, its all stipulation.
Okay. Why are you encouraged to confuse them? Thats a good question. Why are you encouraged to confuse them?
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AM: To manipulate you.
VP: Yes, to be able to manipulate you, to be able to control you, to be able to confound you, to be able to trick you, to be
able to get you to make them offers that they can accept, just like the real estate and the truck salesmen do. Do you
know why youre here tonight, by the way? Do you know why each and every one are here tonight? Because you feel
that theres something wrong, you sense that theres something not right. Youve got a more acute sense of being
manipulated than the average Bozo whos home right now, sitting next to Joe Six-Pack, watching Married With Children,
you see, or fighting for a seat at the Dayton 500, or whatever theyre doing. Im not ridiculing any of those things. Im just
telling you that some of those people out there dont have the first clue. Theyre not even smart enough to know that
theyre having this horrible feeling. They drink it away to cover it up. Its really sad, thats why theres such a drug
problem in this country.
Okay. Now, we already did this one. Where were you born? How do you know? Whats the problem with providing that
kind if information?
AM: You get into a pattern of stipulation.
VJ: First of all, you get into a pattern, thats a good one. But whats the real problem behind doing that?
AM: I have no idea.
VJ: Theyre using it against you! Youre giving it to them to use against you! Do you understand, they have nothing
against you? They have nothing. They can get nothing against you, unless you give it to them? Why do you think half
the IRS laws say, and especially under Title 5, that they must get the information from the direct source. Who do you
think that is? Thwap, joke. Its you. Theyve got to get it from the direct source, directly or indirectly through your
assertions or your silence. You dont want it, Ill take it. It all comes from you. So if you walk around, I know nothing.
Youre the smartest person on the face of the earth.
Okay. How can you answer the question, Where were you born, honestly?
AM: I cant.
VJ: Oh, yes, you can. Somebody did it up here. I was told! and I believe even. Should that be allowed in a court?
Not in a heartbeat. Do you see? No, its hearsay, but I was told and I believe. But I still like that one. I was held upside
down by my heels, spanked on my behind by a man wearing a mask, speaking a language I didnt understand. All my life
I was told I was told I was born so-and-so, but thats hearsay, your honor, its not admissible in a court of law. Is that all
true? You bet it is. Could your mother prove who you are?
AM: Not unless she was attached to you the entire time.
VJ: No ones got the answer, unless she was attached to you the entire time; not while you were just living at home, until
now. Unless you and mama were joined at the hip for your entire life, mama could not prove that youre her son. Ive
heard many a prosecutor say, Im going to go get your wife and children in here to tell us who you are. Have a nice day.
Ive lived (?) my life on lesser things. Thats exactly true.
AM: Judge, she accepted what I told her.
VJ: Judge, she accepted what I told her. There you go. See, you guys are starting to catch on right away. Im telling
you that when you guys walk out of here tonight, youre going to realize you know nothing, and as soon as you realize you
know nothing, youre the smartest person in the world. Thats the absolute truth!
Okay. We did that part, can you trust your own brain? Now, listen to the three things your mind could have done to you.
Does everybody remember what I told you on the three things we just had up here? What are the three things your mind
could have done to you? One: It could have just thrown out the extra word, right? So it could have ignored something.
Two: What else could it have done? Changed it! It could have changed it to another word that made sense. Whats the
third thing it could have done? It could have connected the dots, put it all together, build the puzzle for them. Build your
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own jail cell. Hey, theres a new title for a book, Build Your Own Jail Cell. What do you, the average person, think that
would mean?
Okay. Im going to show you whats called the Joe Namath panty hose test. How many of you in here are old enough to
remember that ad Joe Namath did on television where he advertised panty hose? For you kids in the room, there was a
time when Joe Namath actually put on a pair of panty hose and advertised them keeping him warm underneath his
football uniform. Do you remember that?
AM: Yeah.
VJ: Okay. That was an interesting ad. Now, I took that ad and I did something with it. At the time I was teaching high
school. I taught chemistry, biology and physics. I know. I look like the typical chemistry, biology and physics teacher
you all had, dont I? (Chit chat.)
Okay. In the science lab we had shelves, and on these shelves were flasks and beakers and test tubes and chemicals
that we used in our teaching, and what I would do is, in groups of 5, I would bring students back into that lab and sit them
on stools between these shelves so that they could not see one another, and they were facing a screen. And on that
screen I had two arrows drawn, A and B. My instructions to the students were, Okay, Im going to give each of you a
ticket numbered 1 through 5, and on the back of that ticket is an A and a B written upside down. Im going to ask you if
you think line A or B is longer. If you think line A is longer, you put your thumb on the B, cover it up and hold the A behind
your head like this so that I can see it. If you think B is longer, you put your finger on the A and hold the B up behind your
head like this so I can see it. All right. Then I would turn on the overhead projector
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VJ: -- and we just got back from there. We havent been home 10 days between Salt Lake City and Portland and 10 days
between Portland and here, but we have learned quite a few interesting things. The first thing I said when I got up there in
Portland, after I gave a prayer, was, when you leave here, you are going to have a peace about how to handle
commercial affairs and that peace is going to bring you a lot of joy. Now, what I did not know at the time was that there
was a woman sitting next to her husband at my left, right up front, and through the whole Friday night session and 90% of
Saturday, every time I asked a question this woman had the answer. She was brilliant. I mean, I have never seen
anybody who had no experience, no background, be able to speak so logically so quickly and be right on point every time.
And I kept complimenting her, saying, Thats wonderful. Say that answer again. Right on. You got it. After my last
session on Sunday, the husband and wife came up to me and said, Would you meet with us privately for a private
tutoring on Monday? I usually stay two or three days after for private tutoring, and I said, Of course.
When we were at the private tutoring on Monday she said to me, I have to tell you something. Never in my 25 years of
being married to this wonderful man did I ever dig my heels in and resist going anywhere the way I did for this particular
workshop. I did not want to go. I did not want to be there. And, of course, I was shocked, because she was giving all
the right answers. She said, I looked at my husband and said, Are you ordering me to go? and he said, No, honey, Im
not going to order you, but I am going to ask you from the bottom of my heart, will you please come to this workshop? I
have a feeling about it. And she said, When I first heard you say that this is going to give everybody a peace and a joy, I
went, Yeah, right. I want you to know I have come away from this workshop so convinced that my husband and I are on
the right track now and that were going to be able to go those men from the CID for those of you who dont know what
that is, its the criminal investigation division of the IRS, who came to her porch at 7 oclock one morning and intimidated
the living daylights out of her. She said, We are going to be able to go to them now with our heads held up high, knowing
that we are in the word, in scripture, in everything were doing. Then she said the real kicker, And Im going to write the
paper. So it does tell me that she came away with something that was just awesome.
Now, I will tell you now, Im not going to tell you that she is a dumb woman, because she is not, but I will tell you, for
those of you whove had some experience and have some background and you know the law and you know the theory
and you know the practice, just imagine, if she came away with that kind of a change, what youre going to be able to do.
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the people who arent here tonight, because all of you will have an advantage over them tomorrow. So try not to flash
your brilliance too much when they show up, okay?
I do want to start with something I think is going to be kind of interesting for you, too. Anyhow, we were talking on the way
up here and I made a statement. I said, So you mean scripture was right when it said theres nothing new under the
sun? And Eddie said, Yeah, that old Solomon, he was a really bright man.
You know, a friend of mine is an actor in L.A., and he had the role of Julius Caesar this last summer. Now, I had just
learned honor and dishonor at the end of June and Ive just taken off with it like wildfire, but Greg hadnt -- come to see
him in this play toward the end of August, and he was Julius Caesar, and its amazing, because as Im sitting there
listening to words mouthed by these actors that William Shakespeare had written how many years ago, it just absolutely
floored me. One of the men walked on the stage and said, All bondsmen have the capacity to free themselves. All
bondsmen have the capacity to free themselves. Pretty awesome, isnt it? To think that Shakespeare wrote that years
ago.
And I think whats happening now, if you understand what happened in the Bill Clinton impeachment process, it had
nothing to do with Monica Lewinsky, if you understand that it had to do with determining whether or not the United States
as a nation was going to take effect of Jubilee and come out of the national debt or whether it was going to re-pledge its
debt. Thats all it was about. You see, I can have a debt to Danny. Lets say Danny bails me out of some problem I have
while Im down here for $500 and Im going to try to make payments to him. If I cant make the payments in 7 years, is my
debt forgiven? Yes, it is, under Jubilee. But I can go to Danny and say, You know what, Danny? You did me such a
favor. I dont want to cheat you. I dont want this debt to be gone. I want to renew this pledge to you for another 7 years.
Can I do that? In a heartbeat, you see? Well, thats what this Clinton impeachment really was about; but, of course, they
do everything between the lines and so they werent going to come out and tell you that thats what it really was. But if
you recognize what the Republicans were pushing for was to have the actual impeachment proceed with the evidence
and everything. Anybody who voted for that, as opposed to what the Democrats were preaching, which was to have
censure.
Anybody know where the term censure is used most secretly? In the English Parliament. Who is the debt of the United
States to? England. So it really was to decide how Congress was going to vote to reinstate the bankruptcy or not. Now,
let me ask you a question. If the United States is bankrupt, what is the purpose of Congress? Somebody said it. Theyre
the trustees of the debt. Theyre the overseers of the debt. How much intelligence does it take for an orangutan to figure
out that if Im a trustee of the debt and I vote to make the debt go away, I aint got a job anymore? Duh-uh. Would
Congress vote to get rid of the debt if they are the overseers of the debt and thats their job? I mean, you would really
have to be dumb to believe thats what would happen. But, anyhow, I just thought youd appreciate that statement that all
bondsmen have the capacity to free themselves.
Now, heres another interesting statement out of William Shakespeare. Marc Antony said to the rest of the conspirators,
when they confronted him saying, Were going to kill Caesar. We want you to join us. Marc Antonys response was, I
will join you if you show me how Caesar is dangerous. Do you understand what he just did? He conditionally accepted
their offer to join them in this conspiracy upon proof of claim there was a need to kill Caesar. And everything that were
going to do this weekend revolves around conditional acceptance and redraft, and here was William Shakespeare saying
this so many years ago. Its amazing.
And then the last thing that came out of that Shakespeare play that just struck me, at least a dozen times men would walk
onto the stage and say, But Brutus is an honorable man. Brutus is an honorable man. Yes, Brutus is an honorable
man. Well, you know, we really havent taken much look at what the word honorable man means lately. And youre
going to learn this weekend, and youre going to learn something that if you go to a corporate church, youre never going
to hear. You see, the corporate churches will tell you that Romans 13, when it says, honor those in authority, means to
obey them. Where does honor mean to obey? So if a cop came over and told you to kill somebody, would you do it? Is
that honoring? Youre going to learn the real definition of honor and honorable man this weekend. Its going to make you
really happy.
But the first thing I have to show you is the way they trick you so you dont see whats really going on. Now, I use the
phrase a lot -- and people think Im crazy, but I use the phrase called watch my fingers, they never leave my hand. What
Im really doing is, every time I say that youd better pay attention, because what Im doing is Im pointing out to you some
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little slight of hand that has been used effectively against you or somebody else at one time or another. So well be
working with a couple of little tests right now. So youre all going to be tested, and were not going to have you exchange
papers and have somebody correct them, but I will have you take a look at how you think, how you have been
brainwashed, how you have been led to believe certain things; and most importantly, how and why you jump to
conclusions. (Performs a reading test. Plus + for true, 0 for false, ? for unknown.)
Example 1: After the businessman turned off the lights in the store, a man appeared and demanded money. The store
owner opened up a cash register. Its contents were scooped up and the man sped away. A police officer was notified
immediately.
Q #1: A man appeared after the businessman turned off the lights in his store.
Q #2: The thief was a man.
Q #3: The man who appeared did not demand money.
Q #4: The store owner scooped up the contents of the cash register and sped away.
Q #5: Someone opened up a cash register.
Q #6: After the man demanded money and took the contents of the cash register, he fled.
Q #7: Even though there was money in the cash register, the story does not tell how much.
Q #8: The thief demanded money from the store owner.
Q #9: The story tells of a chain of events that involves only three people. The store owner, the man who demanded
money and a police officer.
Q #10: The following three things happened in the story: Someone demanded money, a cash register was opened and a
man fled from the store.
Youre all looking at me like Ive just come from Mars. Did I confuse you that much already? Well, wait till you get the
answers.
#1: A man appeared after the businessman turned off the lights in his store. (Unknown. It says, After the business man
turned off the lights in the store. We dont know that the businessman was the owner. So the question was: After the
business man turned off the lights in his store. Some of you presumed it was his store.)
#2: The thief was a man. (Unknown. What makes you think there was a robbery? He just demanded money, yes. What
if it was debt? Somebody could have owed him a debt; is that right? Of course. Do you see the presumption that we
made? And I want to tell you folks, this is the equivalent of whats written in a newspaper story.)
#3: The man who appeared did not demand money. (False. We know that he did. It says, The man appeared and
demanded money. See, now I even have you doubting yourselves.)
#4: The store owner scooped up the contents of the cash register and sped away. (Unknown. How do you know that the
owner didnt come in and say to his businessman clerking there, Hurry up and give me all that money, Ive got to make it
to the bank in 5 minutes? Do you understand where you jumped to the presumption that there was a robbery?)
#5: Someone opened the cash register. (True. Well, youre not doubting your minds that badly yet.)
#6: After the man demanded money and took the contents of the cash register, he fled. (Unknown. Heres a scenario:
Im the business man. I turn off the lights in the store. It could have been a thief who came in and demanded money. I
could have scooped up all the contents of the cash register and said, Over my dead body, and the man fled away
thinking, whoops, Im not going to go to that length and kill him. Do you see how many different things could have actually
happened here?)
#7: Even though there was money in the cash register, the story does not tell how much. (Unknown. You presumed
theres money in the cash register, because the word is cash. Could he have had all checks in there? He could have,
so the answer is unknown.)
#8: The thief demanded money from the store owner. (Unknown. We dont know.)

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#9: The story tells of a chain of events that involves only three people. The store owner, the man who demanded money
and the police officer. (Unknown. You dont know if the store owner and the businessman were two different people.)
Now, somebody said to me, Why would they call a police officer if there wasnt a robbery? Can anybody think of a
reason for that? He could have called a police officer for an escort, because he had so much in there in the way of
securities or whatever. But how about this one: It doesnt say why the police officer was notified. How many know that
the store owner didnt come in and say, Ive got to hurry up and make the bank with this money before they close in 5
minutes and Im supposed to meet my wife, who is a police officer, at the policemens ball. Call her and tell her Im going
to be late. I understand that it sounds preposterous, but still, it is a possibility, isnt it? What weve done, because of our
conditioning and our way of thinking and our brainwashing, is we weed out certain things that just couldnt possibly be.
And when you see some of these things tomorrow that are actual presentments given to you by your alphabet soup
agencies, youre going to see how youve been led to jump to conclusions that are absolutely going to blow your mind.
#10: The following three things happened in the story. Someone demanded money, a cash register was opened and a
man fled from the store. (True.)
Well do another story a little later, after I teach you a little more about how your brain works and how it functions and how
to get it to not jump to conclusions. Once we point out to you what your little mistakes are in your ways of thinking, it
doesnt take much to correct them. It took years and years to brainwash you from kindergarten on up, but it doesnt take
that long to undo it. How many of you saw The Manchurian Candidate? That was just a parody of what went on in that
Korean concentration camp with what went on in the schools in America. If youve never seen that, its worth renting and
finding out.
The next thing Im going to do is show you another little trick. Anybody ever see an ad in the paper that says, Come on
down, buy this red Dodge Ram truck tomorrow morning, Saturday, from 9 till noon. Its a $40,000 truck and well sell it to
you for 29,000. Anybody ever see an ad like that? Yeah. How about an ad that says, Weve got a $550,000 house for
sale over here on this lake. Its lakefront property. Come on down and buy this beautiful house that would probably be
assessed at $1,000,000. Anybody ever seen an ad like that? Yeah, okay. Heres the problem that you probably havent
been aware of and you probably have all fallen for it. I did, many times. What happens when you get to the car agency to
buy the truck?
AM: Its sold.
VJ: Yeah, it may be sold. Then theyll try to do a bait and switch on you. What else might happen?
AM: Accessories.
VJ: They might try to accessorize it and get the price up, and theres one other thing that happens thats quite interesting.
Now, remember what I said, this is an ad in the newspaper. What did you take that ad to be to you?
AM: An offer.
VJ: Thank you, an offer. They are offering to sell that truck to you, which is worth 40,000, for 29,000; right? But what
happens when you get there? You guys have all bought a new car or truck somewhere along the line. What happens
when you get there? They start negotiating? Now theres terms and conditions. You see? Weve all missed it. Wait till
you see what they did to you. They offered it to you to buy. When you get there, they shove a paper in front of you and
ask you to offer to buy it. Theyre offering to sell it for 29,000, but they want you to make them an offer to buy it. It could
be at the same price, but they usually will keep the price high so that it makes it look like youre getting a deal. The real
reason isnt to give you the deal. The real reason is to get you to make the offer. Now I want you to understand why.
The party that makes the offer is the party whos coming in low. The party who accepts the offer is whats called the head.
Youre the head if you accept the offer. Youre the tail if you make it. Thats going to be very significant in tomorrows
lesson.
Now, if you are the head of the contract, are you in charge of the contract? Are you in charge of the terms and
conditions? Are you in charge of interpreting those terms and conditions? You bet your bippy you are. So when they
offer to sell it for 29,000 thats to get you down there. And then they tell you, Well, here, sign this paper offering to buy it
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for 29,000 and Ill take it to my salesman supervisor and see if he approves. Raise your hand if youve been through that
experience. The whole purpose of that is to get you to make the offer, because they accept the offer and they are the
head. Interesting, isnt it? Do they do the same thing in real estate?
AM: Yes.
VJ: Thank you very much. They put an ad in the paper to sell it for X number of dollars. Then when you get there and
you decide you would like that real estate, they make you sign an offer to purchase. Watch my fingers, they never leave
my hand. That is very interesting, because that way they get you in under their terms and conditions, in under their
statute staples, in under all of their duties and obligations for what you have to do for them. Nothing is in your favor.
Nothing is in your benefit for those terms and conditions. So its always to get you to make the offer so that they can
accept it. Well, how many of you have ever heard the statement, Whats good for the goose is good for the gander?
What Ill be teaching this weekend is how to use this on them. Im going to show you how the entire court system is set up
for that. They know exactly what theyre doing. It was designed this way from the get-go.
There are a lot of presumptions and assumptions that weve for lack of a better word, we bought the farm. How many of
you have ever heard, You cant add dollars and donuts? How many of you have ever heard, You cant add apples and
oranges? I know weve all heard that, and we believe it, dont we? Now, what is one apple plus two oranges?
AM: Three fruit.
VJ: Three fruit. Thank you very much. You see, it can be done. Its three fruit, but we have been brainwashed into
believing you cant add apples and oranges. So be very careful about what youve been brainwashed in. Okay, is an
orange, orange? The map is not the territory, is it? If I put a map in front of you, you cant go there. Trust me, you cant
go there. I dont care if you watch Mary Poppins or not, you cant go there.
Language trap number two is to confuse the word with the thing. Now I want you to think about how the system uses this
to their advantage and write some examples here. Some of you who are lawyers should come up with this a little faster
than others. How did the system try to get you to believe that the word is the thing? Like, the map is the territory?
AM: By putting your name in caps in the top of the caption so you accept that thats you, because it says your name, but
its the name in caps thats a corporate entity.
VJ: See, youre ahead of us. Thats one way. Theres another way thats a lot more devious and a lot more tricky, and
its so unfortunate. Nobody is faulting anybody for this, trust me. This is not an easy concept, but when I show you what
theyve done, Im going to use a very ridiculous example, because those are the victims you tend to remember the most.
All right, how many of you have ever heard on one of those police movies where somebody says, Calling all cars, theres
been a 187 at 2463 North Brand Street? Have you ever heard that?
AM: Yeah. Roger, all cars.
VJ: Yeah, okay. What was really said there? Does anybody know what 187 is, penal code 187? Maybe its not the
same in all states, I dont know. 187, murder, murder at 2348 Brand Street. Okay, and just as the police get there, they
see a masked man jumping over the fence and running through the neighbors yard and they make chase and they attack
him and they handcuff him and they take him in, and three days later they take him in front of the court and arraign him.
The first words out of the judges mouth are, Sir, you are charged with!
Thank you, Dewey got it right on the button. Sir, you are charged with penal code 187, how do you plead? Have you
ever heard that? What are they saying? Theyre charging you with a code. Now, if you want to come in and presume
that thats murder, well let you. If you want to go out and hire an attorney who will foster that presumption, I guess he
can feed his family if he does, well let you. Do you understand what Im telling you here? How many of you are charged
with violations of IRS codes? Dont raise your hands. That wasnt the question. Youre charged with a code violation,
arent you? But you jump in with both feet, brush yourself with it, smear it all over yourself and say, Yep, thats me. I
gotta defend myself against evasion now. How many of you have ever gotten a speeding ticket? What does the cop
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beautiful product out of that public fool system, bless yourself with it, wrap yourself in it, smear yourself with it, and now
you go to defend it.
How many of you ever heard Justice Brandeis statement, Ninety percent of the people in jail were put there by their own
mouth? Okay. Now, Im going to give you a beautiful example. Where were you born?
AM: Sumter, South Carolina.
VJ: Sumter, South Carolina. Rick, where were you born?
AM: I was assumed to be born in (Laughter)
VJ: Look at all this hesitation here. You guys dont trust me worth a nickel, do you? Okay, do you understand? I was
telling Eddie on the way over here, I said something about where were you born? And he told me. I said, Youre going to
find out thats a trick question, and he just grinned.
How do you know? How do you know where you were born? Well, Im going to tell you a story, and this actually
happened in Orange County in the early 70s. Seven men were indicted on tax evasion, income tax fraud, failure to file,
willful failure and all this kind of stuff. The first six were tried and had an attorney representing them and they were all
sentenced. The first one got sentenced to 7 years, the next one got sentenced to 5 years, the next one got sentenced to
3 years, the next one got sentenced to 2 years and the next one got 2 years probation. The next guy goes up there and
he doesnt have an attorney representing him. Hes sitting at the table by himself and the prosecutor, the U.S. attorney,
stands up and says, Your honor, we have Mr. So-and-So over here, who was born in such and such a city and state and
has this social security number. And this man jumps up and says, Objection. The judge looks at him and says, He
hasnt said anything yet. Wrong, judge. Do you want me to believe that, judge? You just wanted me to sit down and
shut up, judge. But this man didnt do it. He said, Excuse me, your honor, but he said that I was born in such and such a
county and have such and such as a social security number. And the judge said, Well, dont you? Werent you? And
the man said, Your honor, I was seconds old, gasping for breath, held upside down by my heels, spanked on my behind
by a man wearing a mask speaking a language I didnt understand. All my life Ive been told I was born in Bakersfield,
California, but thats hearsay and not admissible in this court of law, is it, your honor? The judge looked at the prosecutor
and said, If you have nothing else, this case is dismissed. In 5 minutes that man walked out of that courtroom, because
he would not allow them to proceed on that presumption out of his own mouth. Thats an interesting little story, isnt it?
Now that actually happened in the 70s. I was held upside down by my heels, crying, screaming, spanked on my behind
by a man wearing a mask speaking a language I didnt understand. All my life Ive been told I was born in Bakersfield,
California, but thats hearsay and not admissible in this court, isnt it, your honor? And that judge knew that there was no
place for him to go.
So what Im going to show you today is that you can prove nothing. By the way, Dewey, I really love that yellow shirt.
Alan, I really like your green shirt. And Jay, I think that red shirt that youre wearing is the prettiest color of red Ive ever
seen. You see, none of these guys are going to argue me, because they dont trust me as far as they can throw me. I
want to tell you, though, what would happen if Dewey looked at me and said, Yellow shirt? Victoria, are you color blind?
This is blue. What he would have done is just absolutely shifted the burden of proof right back on him to prove its blue.
Now, can Dewey prove thats blue?
AM: Absolutely not.
VJ: Is there any way on the face of this earth that Dewey can prove that shirt is blue? What if he took it and held it under
a chromatograph and let it sense out all the different waves and all the different smells and chemicals and all of that to
prove that thats blue dye? Could he prove that thats a blue shirt using those kinds of machines? Let me back up before
you answer. Danny, would you mind sitting in this shoe today?
AM: In this shoe?
VJ: Sit in this shoe right there.
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VJ: Now, Danny and I just agreed that this is a shoe.
AM: Presumption.
VJ: No, its a stipulation.
AM: He stipulated to the fact.
VJ: He stipulated that this was a shoe. Who will dare to come up here and tell me now that this is a chair? Weve
already got two people who stipulated that for today this is a shoe, didnt we? Okay. Is this a chair in France?
AM: No.
VJ: Oh, they stipulated to call it something else in France. Oh, for heavens sake! Did they stipulate to call this a chair in
Mexico? No? Then what makes you think this is a chair? If they dont call this a chair in France and they dont call this a
chair in Mexico and they dont call this a chair in Russia, why do you think this is a chair?
AM: Because you agreed.
VJ: Because in this country we agreed to call it a chair. See, if everybody in this country agreed to call this a shoe, guess
what? Its a shoe. Think about that. Its only a chair because weve all agreed its a chair. Its only blue because weve
all agreed its blue. I dont care if you put it under any of those chromatographs or any kind of machine that measures the
wavelength off of the blue shirt that come out and tell you its blue. Its only because we decided that particular wave
length was going to be called blue. Do you understand what Im telling you?
And this is why scripture said there is only one truth and you walk the earth. Everything else is by stipulation, ladies and
gentlemen, everything. So if youre in jail or youre headed there, its because of your own mouth that you did so. Once
you walk out of here tonight, youre going to realize there are no facts. There are no facts. If you and I havent agreed on
something, if you and the prosecutor havent agreed on something, if you and the cop havent agreed on something, there
are no facts. You can prove nothing. You know that old Laugh-In line, I know nothing. Youre going to walk out of
here realizing you know nothing and thats going to be the biggest relief to you in the world, because then you dont have
to prove anything. And when you realize you know nothing and you realize the other side knows nothing also and you
shift the burden of proof onto him, how much fun thats going to be? Its a delight! When I told you that youre going to
have joy, I really meant that youre going to have joy. All you need to do is learn how to shift the burden of proof onto
some poor sucker to see if he can prove some facts when youre sitting there grinning because you know you can prove
nothing.
Now, I dont know how it is in Florida law, but in California law its very interesting what a stipulation means. Stipulation
has four aspects to it in California law. Now you lawyers here are going to find how significant these are. The first thing
that occurs after a stipulation is made is that there is no evidence permitted to support that stipulation. Boy, do we end
this when weve got both people agreeing, right, to a stipulation? The second thing in California law is that no evidence is
permitted to argue that stipulation. Do you remember what I just said? If Danny and I agree thats a shoe, whos going to
come in now and say it isnt? We just agreed. Can the judge say to Danny and I, You two stupid idiots, I dont put that
on my feet. Thats not a shoe. He wouldnt dare, would he? If Danny and I agreed thats a shoe, for all intents and
purposes, for that judge, thats a shoe. Think about it, all right? Number three, the judge may not consider anything at all
that has to do with that stipulation from that point on. In other words, what its saying is, Hands off, judge. Danny and I
have signed this stipulation that thats a shoe. You are not allowed to consider it in any way, shape or form. You can
receive no evidence to support it and you can receive no evidence to counter it. And heres the teeth in that particular
code in California: If the judge tries, its reversible error, and the legislators wrote that right into the law. (Garbled) how
powerful is that?
AM: Very powerful.
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[Tape 2 / Side A.]
(Well into giving a school experience on how people are led to see things or think.)
VJ: Why didnt they believe their own eyes?
AM: Peer pressure.
VJ: Peer pressure. Is that another thing that affects the way you think? Do you think peer pressure works for the
government today? Duh! Where have you been if you say no. Thats exactly what theyre doing. Lets get all these
people on a jury to say that Joe Slobovia over here didnt pay his fair share. Got it? Peer pressure. When I took those
kids out of the room and I blackmailed them, Ill tell you I said, If you tell the other students in the hall who are still
waiting to come in here yet, the trick, Ill tell them how you answered. I said, Youre as stupid as me believing Joe
Namath, that these panty hose are going to keep my legs warmer. Ive worn those panty hose and it dont work. But isnt
that the whole idea behind advertising? Peer pressure? In fact, lets get some really big peers, like big names to
advertise some of these things, because peer pressure does work. Im not kidding you, this worked in 95% of the
students, even though their own eyeballs showed that A was so obviously longer they still voted B.
But after I pointed out to them that the only reason they smoke was because their friends tell them to. How many of you
think got up and threw away their cigarettes? A good healthy number of them. So it turned out to be a very, very good
lesson for students, and if you have teenagers at home, this is not a bad thing to go home and try and show them how
their stinking thinking can get them in trouble later in life also.
Okay, weve tested your brain. Youre ready to throw that out or trade it in for a new one. Weve tested your critical
inferencing skills. Weve tested your eyes. Now were ready for your ears. You thought you were getting out of here
easy, didnt you?
Im going to read you some words. You only get to hear the word once, so listen carefully. There is to be no talking or
discussing or questioning during this test. You write the words that you hear in the box, and Im going to go rather quickly.
Thats so you dont cheat and look over to see what your neighbor wrote. Okay.
#1. By
#2. Sent
#3. Air
#4. Do
#5. Earn
#6. Flew
#7. For
#8. Need
#9. Meet
#10. May
#11. Peak
#12. Rain
#13. Eye
#14. So
#15. There
#16. Two
#17. Soar
#18. Your
#19. Through
#20. Stake
#21. Right
#22. Pair
#23. Great
#24. Flower
#25. Fair
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#26. Hair
#27. No
#28. Chased
#29. Way
#30. Night
(Discussion on what people wrote down.)
VJ: Did you notice that every one of these has three different spellings to them? You presumed which one I said, didnt
you?
AM: No, you didnt give us that much time.
VJ: I didnt give you time to write all three. You wrote two for every one? Okay, thats very good. Actually, there are
three for every one of these. Okay, all Im trying to do is point out to you that you dont always hear whats said to you.
How many times has your wife said that to you? Dont raise your hand. You dont always hear whats said to you. How
many times has Eddie taught you to go look up every word thats in every code and every statute and every letter and
every motion that they write to you, go look it up. Dont presume you know what they meant, because I guarantee you,
youll shoot yourself in the foot with these presumptions every time.
[Break time.]
VJ: This says mind trap. Before I go into that, I want to know, is there anybody here who knows what the highest
mountain was before they discovered Mt. McKinley?
AM: Everest?
VJ: Mt. McKinley. It was the highest mountain whether they discovered it or not, you see? Now theres a trap for you,
and thats the kind of trap that Dewey was talking to me about during the break. We fall for this stuff so easily, its just
amazing. It was always the highest mountain, just because they hadnt discovered it didnt mean there was another
mountain higher. This sounds kind of ridiculous and it sounds like were playing tonight, but Im going to show you
tomorrow where every one of these traps that Ive shown you tonight are responsible for your problems. Every problem
you have, and I dont care whether its with your wife, your kids, your next door neighbor, anybody in the government, Im
going to tell you right now that your stinking thinking is whats getting in the way. Once you clear that out and realize what
youre doing, youre not going to do it again. I just showed you that with that second little critical inference test that we did.
Okay. Im going to read you a question here and I want you to spend a few moments trying to figure it out. Its not a trick
question, but I just want you to see how tough it is sometimes to find the easiest answer. Its like the easiest answer is
standing in front of you, biting you on the nose and youll go everywhere else to try to find it. All right, ready?
It is greater than God. It is more evil than the devil. Poor people have it, rich people cant buy it. If you eat it youll die.
What is it?
AM: Nothing.
VJ: Take a few moments and write down what you think the answer is. (Repeats sentence.) Okay, what is it?
AM: Nothing.
VJ: Nothing. Nothing is the answer. Isnt that something? No, its nothing. See, well dance all over the floor trying to
reach for a thing, a tangible, something that the mind can see, smell, feel, hear, but the answer is nothing. Its so simple
sometimes it escapes us.
Boy, I hate to tell you this, but almost everything you have been doing to stand up against the strongholds of deception
has been correct, substantively. The place weve made our mistake is procedurally. When I show you procedurally how
to present your substantive knowledge or arguments -- which I hate to use that word, but youre going to see that you
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have had the answer all along and it was so simple. Why didnt we have it before? Well, I think in his wisdom he knew
when to give it to us and when not to, because what Ive been running into, as I go across the country teaching this, is a
whole lot of skeptics right now, people who will not open their minds, people who have closed their minds to anything new.
Oh, that wont work. Ive tried better things than that and they didnt. Ive tried everything, nothing works. Theres a well-
known man whose been teaching a lot of people and hes been taking a lot of money for doing their so-called security
agreements, and I did a telephonic seminar that he put on from where he lives out in California where we could see each
other on the video screen and talk through the telephone to him. He made this statement that just broke my heart. He
said, I dont want to hear what anybody else is teaching. I know Im right. And Im sorry to say that the minute you know
youre right, youre not.
The sad part is, tomorrow Im going to show you an overhead projector slide of something that he is teaching people to
do, and this one particular man did it three times and the result was a letter from the government, the U.S. attorneys
office, that said, We have a report recommending we prosecute you for interference with the administration of tax laws.
Now, if what this man is doing is so right, it should not have generated a letter like that. So there are a lot of skeptics out
there. There are a lot of people out there, and I just thank God for you in this room tonight, who have open minds and are
at least willing to listen. Im not here to convince you of anything. Im here to show you something, and Im here to show
the examples where it works and why it works. Thats all. Im not here to sell you anything. Im not here to tell you that
you have to do this. I am just grateful that you have the open mind that you do and that the Lord will bless you on how to
use the wisdom and discernment that you do get. So if anybody says to you, I know the only way to do this, and it
results in a letter from the DOJ saying we intend to prosecute you, I would run the other direction real fast.
All right. Loretta is going to pass out a chart to you and its called The Assumption / Presumption Chart. It sort of goes
over everything that weve talked about so far tonight. I dont know if you recognize yet what a presumption is, but I want
to show you this little diagram. (Minor problem finding tools necessary for writing, etc.)
Okay. Youve got this assumption / presumption chart in front of you and its divided into two columns. All right, Im going
to show you, first of all, in case youve never realized what a presumption was and you know attorneys in the room,
particularly, need to be watching this very, very closely. All right, youve got a guy sitting up here on the bench,
sometimes hes even referred to as the bench. He usually wears a black robe. He may even have a curly wig on in
other countries. Thats the bench. Heres what happens. He usually has two people come in front of him. They are
called attorneys. They usually represent somebody else, although somebody may go in there themselves, if they so
choose, as an unrepresented party.
By the way, if you are making the mistake of calling yourself pro se or pro per, stop it now. Pro per is in propria persona.
If you take a look at the definition of persona -- remember I was telling you about looking up words? Persona is a false
person. A persona in France is a mask. Is that who you are? A mask. A false person. Thats what persona means. In
propria persona? Im the proper false mask? Were not talking about watch my fingers, they never leave my hand. How
can you be a proper false mask. Youre not in propria persona, youre an unrepresented party. Youre also not pro se.
Pro se means, Im an attorney and Im representing myself in this case. Im going to tell you something interesting. How
many of you have ever heard that he who represents himself has a fool for a client? Do you understand why thats true?
Because a client, before he can have an attorney represent him, must admit hes incompetent. If youre incompetent, are
you a fool? Yes! So when an attorney represents himself, he has a fool for a client. Its true! Its not a joke! We go
around thinking, oh, yeah, thats just something that attorneys want to get us to have them represent us. No, its true, you
can only represent a fool, an incompetent, one who cannot speak for themselves. So when you go in and tell a judge
youre pro se, youre saying, I am an attorney and I am representing myself.
AM: I am incompetent.
VJ: I am incompetent, probably in both. All right, so youve got two people now in front of this judge. The thing that has
to happen to make the system work is that this guy has to go in and present his presumptions to the judge. Why is it a
presumption that he is presenting to the judge in every single case? Not only does he not have any first-hand information,
but what have we been learning all evening? You can prove nothing. So he goes in front of the judge with his
presumption. The other side goes in with his presumption. Why? Because he cant prove anything either. Okay? I dont
care how hard you try, you cant prove anything. So theyre both in there now, in front of the judge with their
presumptions. The judge has to make a choice of one presumption over the other. Is that a little risky? Duh! So the
poor judge yeah, poor judge he goes to the legislators and he says, Hey, you know what? Im going to get my butt
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sued off if I make the wrong choice down here. Give me some protection. And the legislators thought about it and said,
Yeah, you know what we can do? We can give you something called judicial immunity. That means, whichever side
you rule against cant come back here and sue you as long as you acted in your judicial capacity. What does the judicial
capacity require? It requires that the judge use discretion to make a determination between two presumptions. Did you
hear what I just said? He uses his discretion to make a determination between two presumptions. Because the facts
dont matter, the facts are on the moon. You couldnt prove them if you wanted to. Okay?
So the judge takes a look at these two guys and goes, well, lets see, I played golf with this attorney last week and he beat
me, so I really dont want to rule for him. Do you see where Im going with this? Or, better yet, and this is the one most of
you are familiar with, he says, Theres this illegal tax protestor whose unrepresented, so I dont have to offend any of my
fellow bar members, over here against one of my government buddies who cuts my check, so Im going to flip a coin.
Nobody needs to know that its a two-headed coin. Thats what you get when you buy discretion, folks. You get some
judge flipping a two-headed coin. You dont like those odds? Then stop going in there with discretion.
What does scripture say when you have a problem with your brother? Go first to him. Oh, uh-oh! Were getting closer to
having to learn something now. Were getting close to having to remember something that Victoria taught earlier. What is
it called when you go first to your brother to get his agreement? What is it called when you go first to him to get his
agreement? What is that agreement called?
AM: Stipulation.
VJ: Thank you, stipulation. Now, what did I tell you is true about a stipulation when you take it in front of a judge? ITS A
DONE DEAL, isnt it? Are you liking this? Now, Im going to ask you, if you dont take presumptions in front of the judge
and he has no discretion anymore, because he cannot contradict an already done deal in the way of a stipulation, is the
judge acting in his judicial capacity? Attorneys, help me out here. Is the judge acting in his judicial capacity when you
take a stipulation to him? No, he is not. Hes acting in his ministerial capacity. Does a judge have judicial immunity when
he is acting in his ministerial capacity? NO!!! Do you want to slam, bam that judge against the wall? Do you want to put
his nose to the grindstone? Do you want to insure that he rules for you? Then take away his discretion. Are we having
fun yet? Can you do it? Of course. Do you want to hear something even more interesting? You are obligated to do it.
Go take a look in Fed. Supp. I cant remember the case I think its 541 Fed. Supp. No, that sounds too high. Anyhow,
theres a case called OK Corp v. Williams and it says that prior to seeking judicial revue, every entity must attempt to
resolve the problem administratively. Whats the key word there? Come on, bring back the brain. You washed it, you
laundered it just a few minutes ago. We cleaned it out. We got rid of the cobwebs. Whats the key word? Who said it?
Whats the word?
AM: Every.
VJ: Every. Every entity must seek administrative remedy before seeking judicial revue. Now, you know how those guys
in those black dresses talk. They talk between the lines. You have to learn to read between the lines. Tomorrow youre
going to get a good opportunity to read between the lines. Boy, am I set up for you guys tomorrow when you come in
here. We are going to hone those senses that you just pulled out of your brain tonight, and you are going to see that if
you can get that judge in his ministerial capacity every single time, you cant lose, folks. Dont go in there and give him
any discretion. What is discretion based on?
AM: Presumption.
VJ: Presumption. Okay, lets take a look at the chart that you just got, and know that it brought me money back.
Okay, on the left-hand side of this chart is a column called Public. On the right-hand side its called Private. On the left-
hand side is all illusion. Why is it illusion on the public side? Because theyre all fictions, excellent. How many of you
have seen the movie Shrek? And dont be afraid to raise your hand just because youre an adult. Do you know what?
Shrek wasnt a kids movie. By the way, Jack Smith is so blessed. He does these movie reviews and tells you that if you
want to study the law, go to the movies. If you want to study scripture, go to the movies. Theyll tell you everything thats
going on. In fact, they are so blatant about it now that they dont even try to hide it. Go watch the Planet of the Apes and
tell me that you cant see whats going on in the public and the private side. Half the people walked out of that movie
going, I dont know what the ending was about. That was a stupid ending. But if you understand whats going on in this
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society today, you know it wasnt a stupid ending at all. But lets get back to Shrek. How many of you have heard about
the strawman? The strawman is that dead, corporate entity that was created when your mother unwittingly pledged you
as a security for the debt of the United States.
I dont know how many of you read scripture regularly, but I like to read it out of the amplified version for the simple reason
that the amplified version is not afraid to tell you what some of the words mean, and we just told you a little earlier that
some of the words might mean something that you didnt suspect they mean. Well, the amplified version actually went
back to the Sanskrit and the Aramaic and they put in all of the possible definitions. They dont just select one. The good
old King James version, he selected one and ran with it. Now Im going to read you some of scripture from the amplified
version. Watch my fingers, they never leave my hand.
There are nine references in scripture to pledges. It must mean something, huh, if the Lord decided to incorporate nine
separate references to pledging in scripture? Well, lets see what the Lord wanted us to think about what that pledge was
that your mother made. First of all, we go to Proverbs 6:13. It says, My son, if you have become surety for your
neighbor, if you have given your pledge for a stranger, you are snared with the words of your lips. You are caught in the
speech of your mouth. Does that sound like pledge is a good or a bad thing to the Lord?
AM: Its bad.
VJ: Very bad. It goes further, it says, Do this now at once and earnestly, my son, and deliver yourself whats another
word for deliver? Redeem. When you have put yourself into the power of your neighbor, deliver yourself when you have
put yourself into the power of your neighbor, go bestir and humble yourself and beg your neighbor to pay his debt and
release you. Your mother pledged you as an asset, as collateral to the government, and everything you earn from the
sweat of your brow goes to them. You dont like that do you? It dont feel good, dont feel comfortable. Then get out of
the pledge. Can you get out of a pledge? Can you think of anything that youve pledged in the past? How many of you
have ever given your car to a valet and gotten back a ticket? On the valet ticket it says, We are not responsible for
anything in this car. Guess what? Just because they say it doesnt make it so.
AM: Theyre bailees for hire. The minute they take your keys and vehicle, theyre bailees for hire.
VJ: The bailee is for hire. Okay, how many of you know how a pawn shop works? When I take something in lets say, I
take grandmas silver candelabra into the pawn shop. I get a real ticket for it, dont I? Now, the pawn shop guy says,
Well, its worth $1,000, but Ill give you a hundred. I say, Good, thats enough for me to get home on. Ill come back
later and redeem grandmas candelabra. Do I have a certain time period to redeem it? Yeah. At that time, before I
redeem it, who has title to the candelabra?
AM: The pawn shop.
VJ: The pawn shop broker. He has the title to it, but I can redeem the title back by taking him the ticket. No ticky, no
laundry. Okay, but if I go back with the ticket and pay the amount of money that we agreed upon to make him whole, I
redeem the candelabra.
Okay, lets say that the Jerry Lewis Telethon is on for muscular dystrophy and youre feeling very sympathetic for these
kids. You call in and they say, Gee, how much would you like to pledge? And you say, Ill pledge $10,000. Why dont
they say donate? Because donate is different from pledge, obviously. If youve never looked up the differences, you
need to go look them up. A pledge is a promise to pay that can be redeemed in writing. A donation is just giving them
something. All right? Now, I wake up the next morning and I read in the newspaper that Jerry Lewis was found in bed
with a 12-year-old girl and I go, Oh, thats against my moral standards. Im not going to tolerate that. Im not going pay
that pledge. Can the muscular dystrophy association send the sheriff to my house to collect assets up to $10,000? You
bet, in a heartbeat. Can the IRS send anybody to your door or to your work or to your wife to collect money on whats
been pledged to them? In a heartbeat, if you havent redeemed the pledge prior to that. This is what got me interested in
the redemption thing. Okay? Lets go on with a few more of these. Yes, do you have a question?
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VJ: What about it? What are you pledging? Youre pledging to a flag, arent you? Where does the word allegiance come
from? Do you know what a liege was back in the medieval days?
AM: To serve the king.
VJ: King, liege, my liege. They used to say, My liege. My lord and my liege. Okay? So when one of them would die,
they had to be re-legioned. Religion? Thats where the word religion comes from. How many of you have been
religioned? I have convictions. I dont believe in religion. I dont want to be re-legioned. Im happy with the king Ive got.
You see? Its starting to come up from these words, okay? Did that answer your question?
AM: Well, Im kind of (mumbled)
VJ: Okay. What are you doing when youre pledging allegiance to a flag? Youre re-lieging something. Okay, let me
show you something else, and watch my fingers, they never leave my hand. How many of you have ever heard the word
venue? Okay. How many of you have ever heard the word re-venue? Oh, but you say it revenue! Oh, watch my fingers,
they never leave my hand. If we pronounce it a little differently, maybe the stupid sheeple out there wont catch on to
what weve just done. Weve re-venued you! Weve re-legioned you! Weve re-aligned you into the service of another
lord and master, one who is a false god, a false idol. Weve re-venued you so that we can collect revenue. Do you think
the revenue agents out there know this? Naw, theyre too stupid. They werent taught this.
Okay, the next section in scripture, Proverbs 17:18. A man void of good sense gives a pledge and becomes security for
another in the presence of his neighbor. What did she just say? A man void of good sense -- Whats another word for
a man void of good sense? A fool, stupid, incompetent gives a pledge and becomes security for another in the
presence of his neighbor. Who signed the birth certificate?
AM: The mother?
VJ: Mother and?
AM: Father.
VJ: No, not the father. The doctor. Hes the witness, delivering the chattel. Thats what scripture says, a man void of
good sense gives the pledge, okay? 20:16 says, The judge tells the creditor, take his garment, who is security for a
stranger, and hold him in pledge when he is security for foreigners. Did you hear what scripture just told you? The judge
tells the creditor, take his garment, who is security for a stranger, and hold him in pledge when he is surety for foreigners.
Now, what does scripture tell us about a man who pledges you his cloak? Are you supposed to give it back to him before
the sun goes down so that hes not cold? Except when? When hes stupid enough to be surety for somebody else.
Whoa, I take this pretty heavy. The Lord is telling you to stop pledging. See, the way I look at it, when you take that little
baby and you sign that birth certificate, youre putting him through the fires of Moloch. Youre sacrificing that child to the
fires of Moloch. You might as well burn him, because hes going to be burned the rest of his life because of that pledge.
But you can redeem every pledge, thats the good news. Thats where redemption came in.
Why were we redeemed with blood? It had to be blood, because all the other kings of this earth could have redeemed us
was gold or silver or diamonds or turquoise or rubies. Do you understand? The only thing that no other king would dare
to pledge to redeem those who would be re-legioned would be the blood of his son, because none of those kings had the
power to raise him up again. Thats why the Lord had to choose blood as the redeeming factor, because he and he alone
had the power to raise up his son once he pledged his blood.
Okay. The next one is 22:26. Be not one of those who strike hands and pledge themselves or of those who become
surety for anothers debts. What part of be not one of those dont you understand? Be not one of those who strike
hands and pledge themselves or of those who become surety for anothers debts. Be not one of those, okay? Did you
ever watch those King Arthur movies? In the old King Arthur movies, heres the way they struck hands. Did you ever see
this? Did you ever see Julius Caesar and Marc Antony and all of them do this? This is what the Lord meant when he
said, be not one or those who strike hands, because once Julius did this, this constituted the pledge. So when scripture
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I see that were running really late, if you want to stop, we can stop. No problem? Yeah, what do you think, Eddie?
AM: Whats that compared to the shaking of hands today?
VJ: Its the same thing, the same thing. When you shake hands with somebody, arent you making a pledge to them?
This is my solemn agreement. When you shake hands on something
AM: But if youre greeting someone, it doesnt?
VJ: Oh, yes, when youre just shaking hands to greet someone, Im sure thats different. But you can shake hands
dont you shake hands and make a deal? Oh, yes, if you understand that, then thats what youre doing is youre making
a pledge. Like I say, Im not going to go anymore on this, because theres a bunch of them out there on the table, but I
just wanted you to get an idea of what scripture is telling you about pledging, for heavens sake. BE NOT ONE OF
THOSE! So if you are already one of those through an inadvertent act, you can undo it through redemption, just redeem
the stupid pledge. Now, somebody says, Well, how can you do that? Who can stop you? Who can stop you from
redeeming a pledge? I dont know of anybody. So youll find out in the future, or in the next couple of days in the
workshop, that theres a way, even if they try to stop you from doing it.
Okay, going back to this chart, this presumption and assumption chart, on the public side, its illusion, on the private side,
its real. Now, take a look down the list on the public side. The first thing they operate under is ignorance. Whats the
first sign of ignorance? When you think you know everything. Do you remember what I told you? Knowing nothing is
being the smartest person in the room. On the other side, you have intelligence and knowledge. Okay, intelligence is like
the bucket that holds the knowledge. Intelligence is just the amount of knowledge that you can put in. Its just the
container. Some people have a lot of intelligence and no knowledge. They have the capacity to learn and use it, but they
dont. They sit on most of it.
Opinions and assumptions and presumptions
[End Tape 2 / Side A.]
[Tape 2 / Side B.]
VJ: -- intelligence is just the amount of knowledge that you can put in. Its just a container. Some people have a lot of
intelligence and no knowledge. They have the capacity to learn and use it, but they dont. They sit on most of it.
Opinions and assumptions and presumptions. Tell me, after the World Trade Center went down, that you really learned a
lot from all the interviews that the news reporters did when they stuck a microphone in front of somebody and said, How
did you feel when your very best friend and his 2-month-old baby were gassed to death? Do you understand thats what
theyre passing off as news nowadays? How did you feel having a serial killer as a neighbor? Good grief! Is that news?
No, its opinion, its assumption, its presumption. They dont want to deal with any truth out there, but on the other side,
you have facts and you have truth. Whats a fact?
AM: Stipulation.
VJ: Stipulation. All right, number three, emotions and feelings. Thats all you have all over the news nowadays. Thats
all you have in courtrooms anymore. I watch Court TV just so I can get a good laugh in the early morning. Everything is
emotions and feelings. On the other side, theres logic and common sense, and Im going to show you tomorrow how you
can get there, if youre not already there.
In the public, number four is irresponsible. Do you want to know something? What the main thing that makes you a
member of the public is? That youre willing to accept a benefit called limited liability. All of your insurance is limited
liability. I, the government, will assume some of the burden of your liability or Ill let you off with so much of the liability so
that you dont have to serve 10 years or pay this family for the child you hit. You see? Well have a court trial here in the
public to limit your liability, because youre one of us. Youre in privity with us. How many of you have ever looked up the
word privity? Privity means that you cannot sue that other person, because you both have a common interest in the same
property. If the government has you pledged to them, do they have in interest in the assets you produce? Can you sue
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the government? Then why are you going out there trying to do it? Theres no need to do it. Youll find out that you can
stay completely out of the courts and win every single time.
In fact, you should. What did I tell you about that case, OK Corp. v. Williams? It says everybody, everybody must attempt
to seek private adjudication before they seek judicial review. So if you get your private adjudication, what need is there for
public judicial review? There isnt any. In fact, do you know the only time the public can step in? When the private fails to
do its duty. So if you go out there and do your duty and get this stipulation in the private and you know the proper
procedure to show the stipulation to the judge so that its not testimony, you cant lose. You simply cannot lose. Im going
to show you so many examples tomorrow of where weve won with this, its going to blow your mind. So if there are a few
of you thinking that youre not coming back to listen this nut anymore, Ive got news for you.
On the other side, the party in the private is responsible. I will pay for the damage I did to my neighbors mailbox. I will
pay the hospital bills if I accidentally hit that child. I dont want any limited liability. Does scripture teach limited liability or
does scripture say every man shall take responsibility for his own sins and iniquities? Thats what youre going to want to
do is take responsibility, but you certainly wouldnt be irresponsible if Macys sent you a bill for $500, and you dont even
shop there, and you pay it. Wouldnt that be stupid? Youd go to Macys and say, Hey, wait a minute. Whats this?
Show me where I ever signed up for a credit card. Show me where I ever walked through your portals and shopped
here. Wouldnt you? Thats being responsible. So when the IRS comes knocking, you do the same thing to them.
Show me where I ever shopped here.
Number five, youre a debtor. If youre a debtor, do you have any rights? Ive got news for you. You have nothing if
youre a debtor. How do you get to be a creditor?
AM: By redemption.
VJ: Redemption. Ill tell you a story about a teenage son. He goes out, hits a neighbors mailbox, knocks it over, runs
over the pastors cat and crashes your car into a fire hydrant. Youve got to pay for all of this, right? Hes your teenage
son. Whats the first thing youre going to do?
AM: After he gets out of the hospital?
VJ: (Laughing) Youre going to take away the car keys and lock him in his room. I mean, if you dont, then you deserve
what you get! Arent you going to ground that sucker? Id lock him up and say, You idiot, youre out there causing me all
these liabilities. Im going to put you in your room and ground you for 2 months. So thats what youre doing to the
strawman through redemption. Youre saying, Look, you stupid sucker, youre out there causing me all these liabilities
with the IRS and the FTB and the cops and the county and the dog catcher and Im locking you up in your room! So
when I showed him what the (garbled) wrote, youre not killing him, youre just taking control of him. And Ive got news
for you, when youve got your hand around somebodys throat, youve got their attention. Youve got control of them.
Thats all youre doing with redemption. Youre taking control of the idiot thats out there causing you all the liabilities.
Does that make you a responsible person? YOU BET! And thats why its done in the private side.
Number six, limited liability. Thats what we talked about. The government is out there to protect you, to shield you. All
this insurance crap is to make sure that youre well protected so that you get this benefit from them so that What
happens when you get a benefit from somebody?
AM: You owe them.
VJ: Youre obligated, you owe them. You owe them big time. So theyre going to give you every benefit they can dole
out and dish to you and dangle in front of you to make you want it. And your job is to say, Thanks, but no thanks. Id
rather risk full liability and full responsibility for the wrongs that I have done, because thats what scripture tells me to do.
Number seven, they cant act, theyre dead. Now, Im going to get that story about Shrek in one way or the other, so dont
get me off-point again this time. Im going to tell it to you. Shrek was a movie about a monster, or an undesirable. Lets
not call him a monster, because the real definition of monster is human being, or the definition of human being is a
monster. Okay, hes an undesirable ogre. He looks different. He acts different. He talks different, even. And he lives
out there in the woods by himself, on his own private property, and the king gets a weird idea. He says, You know what?
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Im going to put a bounty on the heads of Snow White and Cinderella and Weeping Cindy and the three pigs and the big
bad wolf. Im going to put a bounty on their heads. And people started bringing them in and they started collecting the
bounties on them. Hey, I get to turn these guys in. Im getting a big benefit from my king, right? Now, what do all of
these things that are being turned in have in common?
AM: Theyre all fictions.
VJ: Theyre all fictional characters. Weeping Cindy and Cinderella and Wolf Knight and the three pigs and the big bad
wolf, theyre all fictional characters. So once the king starts collecting them, he runs out of room as to where hes going to
put them and he starts dumping them in the swamp where Shrek lives; and they start causing Shrek a lot of grief, dont
they? Just like the little strawman causes you grief. So Shrek goes to the king and says, Get those fictional characters
out of my life. Ah-ha, he wants to redeem them. Well, when he goes to the king, he ends up making a deal. You know
what the deal is. He has to go and save the princess. And if you have not seen this movie you need to rent it, because
Im going to tell you that in 90% of the movies, the women in Hollywood represent the church. Now, theyre either going to
represent the corporate church, or, like in The Others The Others was not a horror movie. The Others was a movie
about the church where this woman is teaching. Its Nicole Kidman who plays the part. Shes teaching her little children
the strict, rigid, corporate church rhetoric that they can just repeat back to her, and you can tell shes in the public,
because at the end of the movie it gives away who the real private parties are. Its an awesome movie telling you whats
going on with the corporate church, but the corporate church will tell you, Dont go see that movie. Its a horror movie.
Its a horror for them, because it tells the truth about what theyre doing.
Anyhow, Shrek goes to try to rescue the princess, and the princess represents the church. Shes beautiful on the outside,
but when she gets inside the stained glass windows, it shows you that the purpose of the stained glass windows is to filter
the light. And whos the light? The Christ. The purpose of the stained glass windows is to filter the light. Frightening,
because once the stained glass windows are blown out of the church at the end, who did the princess turn into?
Somebody who looks just like Shrek, but shes a real, natural person or the real church. I mean, its just awesome to see
what Hollywood does.
Okay, so they cant act. Theyre dead. They cant do anything. The real man serves others. What were we put here for?
To be a servant of all. To serve others.
Now, the last one, I think, is just awesome, consumers. They use up goods and assets. Con-sume, okay? Whereas,
the private, real man creates assets and goods. So where did the public have to go to get assets and goods? To the
private side. You see, my goal this weekend is to create assets in this room, to create every one of you to be an asset in
the service of the Lord. Youll see tomorrow exactly how thats possible.
Okay, so the last couple of things that I just want to go through real quick here are a couple of definitions and something
called The Hierarchy of the Law, because this is going to blow your mind. I think there are a lot of people out there who
dont have an understanding of what the common law really is. They think that the common law is the answer. You need
to understand that when Christ walked this earth, he was actually teaching commercial law. Oh, my land, he was? Yes,
he was. There are different levels of law, and the first one starts off with the very basics, and theres just no one who can
deny that this is the basic law of all. This is natural law. Does anybody want to disagree with me? Natural law means,
like, the law of gravity. You cant fight this. But the second form of law, which is lesser law, because its built on natural
law, but its still the highest form of law that we operate under, because its the way the Lord created us. The second
highest form of law is commercial law. What did the Lord say about writing the laws into the hearts and the minds of
men? And how did the Pharisees interpret that? They put these little phylacteries on their foreheads and wrists and they
would put little scriptures in there and carry them around with them all the time, like, saying, Look at me, I have the law
on my mind, on my forehead. No, the Lord wrote the laws into the minds and the hearts of his people. Do we know
whats right and wrong? Come on. Some people call it a conscience. I dont care what you call it, you know whats right
and you know whats wrong and theres just no doubt about it. So under commercial law, its just the way people interact
with one another in every single thing they do.
So in the olden days, if I baked bread and Danny made moccasins, I would go to Danny if I needed moccasins and say,
Ill give you six loaves of bread for a pair of your moccasins. And Danny would think about it and decide whether or not
he liked the taste of my bread and make a deal, right? Now, if I got home and my moccasins wore out in three days,
Danny still hasnt even eaten my six loaves of bread, Id go over to him and say, Hey, you know what, Danny? Your
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moccasins fell apart and all I did was walk from the house to the barn. Now, in his heart, Danny knows whats right,
doesnt he? And hes going to make good on those moccasins. And you understand thats how the pioneers lived, they
knew what was right, they did what was right. But what if Danny said to me, Tough luck, Victoria. Then Id have no
choice but to move up to the next form of law, which is a little lesser form of law, a little weaker form of law, but that was
called the common law. And this is where I would take Danny to a jury of 12 men that I would hijack, who just happened
to be walking by my house that day, drag them inside and tell my story to them. Danny would tell his story to them and
they would render a common-law decision. Does anybody know where that goes on today? Small claims court.
AM: Arbitration.
VJ: Arbitration, good, small claims court and arbitration. Arbitration is what occurs in small claims court. Do you have
any attorneys there?
AM: Nope.
VJ: Do you have any manipulation of the evidence and all that? Do you have any motions to exclude certain pieces of
evidence? No way, everybody brings in what they have, right? Thats your common law. But you understand common
law is only necessary when the people at commercial law dont do whats right. If everybody in commercial law acted the
way theyre supposed to, did what was right, you wouldnt even need common law. Now, the common law got perverted
up to the government law. This is your statutes, your codes, etc. Do you understand that theyre all still based and
founded on the laws underneath them? Its just that they codified them, statutized them and perverted them a lot. So you
know pretty much where you want to be, but theyre all basically based in commercial law. How many of you know what
27 CFR 7211 is?
AM: How crimes are commercial.
VJ: How crimes are commercial. Hello? Do you know they list kidnapping as a commercial law? Of course its
commercial, whose baby was it that was stolen? Whose property was it that was kidnapped? The government to whom it
was pledged. Do you understand now why its commercial? Oh, yeah, simple, isnt it? So the government gets involved
here and they start playing around with their legislative regulations and all that kind of stuff. And the next form of law is
the one, I think, is going to make you the sickest, because you probably didnt even realize it was a form of law, but if you
stop and think about the one thing that the Supreme Court has said over and over and over again, and that is, We will not
deal with political issues. Ladies and gentlemen, is political outside of the realm of the statutory and the code laws where
the judges and courts deal? Yes! Its a whole separate enchilada, isnt it? This is why they cant deal with that. But you
understand its the weakest form of law. Its the weakest, because its the furthest away from natural law. So the question
is: How unnatural is it? Well, it doesnt take much to read the newspapers and figure out how unnatural it is.
Now, there is a booklet out there called The Hierarchy of the Law and this explains how all of this, that I just showed you
in a nutshell, works. I just wanted you to get an understanding for tomorrow.
Two last things and then were done. Sorry its taking so long, but we got started late. There is an interesting concept in
law called primary liability. How many of you have law dictionaries at home? Okay, do me a favor, copy the definition of
th th th
primary liability in Blacks 5 , 6 and 7 and bring them in tomorrow. Youre in for a shock. Okay, heres what primary
th th th
liability says in the 5 and almost says in the 6 and is completely left out of the 7 . Primary liability for an instrument
rests with the maker, unless the other party refuses to pay. Watch my fingers, they never leave my hand. When you
are given a checkbook by your bank, you are the maker of those checks, are you not? So you sign your little name down
here. This is an order, isnt it? Doesnt your check say, Pay to the order of? Who are you ordering to pay?
AM: The bank.
VJ: Youre ordering the bank. So youre telling the bank to pay the beneficiary up here. Well call him Bennie. The bank
is the payee, right? Youre ordering them to pay. Now, under whats called Bankers Acceptance, all banks must accept
these instruments. They cannot refuse. For example, if a bank gets a check, it takes the check no matter what. But it
can turn around and redraft you and say, You know what? Id be happy to pay so-and-so this check if you just show me
where the money is, because our account shows insufficient funds. You got it? So they have accepted it and theyre
going to pay it. Theyre not going to dishonor it. Theyre going to pay it, but he says, Ill be happy to pay it. Ive accepted
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it. Im going to pay it, but youve got to show me where the funds are. So under Bankers Acceptance, there can be no
refusals. Thats the Bankers Acceptance law. Does anybody here work under bank laws?
All right, when you get a traffic ticket from a cop, which I know none of you ever have, but lets use your imaginations a
little bit. Who signs the ticket?
AM: The police officer.
VJ: The cop. And who is he directing to pay? You, youre the payee. And you get to pay who?
AM: The state.
VJ: Whoever it is, the city, the state, clerk of the court. So these are your theys, arent they? These are your Bennies.
So if you or the bank refuse to pay, whos liable? You are. You see, the primary liability rests with the maker. In other
words, its going to come out of your account if you sign this check and it goes through and Bennie cashes it, isnt it?
Okay, but if you refuse to pay, then the primary liability is no longer on the cop. So heres the secret youre going to learn
tomorrow, and Im going to leave you with this for tonight. If you say to the cop the same thing the bank says to the maker
of the check, Ill be happy to pay if you just show me where the money is. Or, Ill be happy to pay if you just show me
where I agreed to. Show me where the contract is. Are you refusing to pay? No, you are not. So where does the
primary liability now rest? With the cop. When the cops and the IRS agents start finding out that we understand primary
liability and we turn this around using Bankers Acceptance on them saying, Ill be happy to pay if you just show me
where I agreed to, and they are now liable for the debt, how many more of those tickets do you think theyre going to
write?
Thank you. Youve been a great audience.

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Tape 1, Side A / VJ = Victoria Joy, AM = Audience member(s)

VJ: (Starts mid-sentence) What does it tell the judge?

AM: What was that cite again?

AM: Say that again?

AM: The city?

AM: Would that go for a building inspector as well?

VJ: Well, thats a good question. Whats your name?

Okay. Who in here would like to describe a unicorn to me?

AM: A horse with a big, long horn.

VJ: A horse with a big, long horn? A horn on its butt?

AM: The center of its forehead.

AM: A spiral horn --

VJ: It goes out.

AM: About 45 degrees.

VJ: All right. So its sort of spiral like that?

VJ: Everybody agrees that thats what a unicorn is?

AM: (Numerous responses) Its imagination anyhow. There is no such thing.

VJ: There is no such thing? Prove it.

VJ: Got you.

AM: I think its just romantic imagination.

VJ: It is? Youre sure about that?

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AM: I havent been to the unicorn ranch.

AM: Good question.

AM: No, not without examining all of them.

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AM: I say, nothing.

AM: They cant prove a negative.

AM: A CD costs that, but we dont know.

AM: That they do.

VJ: Shes wrong. They do. Do they say that?

AM: Time to go to bed.

VJ: Time to go to bed. Whats number two say?

AM: (Everybody talking at once.)

VJ: Whats number three say?

AM: (Everybody talking at once.)

VJ: Number four?

AM: (Everybody talking at once.)

VJ: Number five?

AM: (Everybody talking at once.)

VJ: Number six?

AM: (Everybody talking at once.)

AM: I wrote, I cant fall fast asleep.

AM: Half the time.

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AM: To manipulate you.

AM: You get into a pattern of stipulation.

AM: I have no idea.

AM: Judge, she accepted what I told her.

[End Tape 1 / Side A.]

[Tape 1 / Side B.]

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AM: Its sold.

AM: Three fruit.

AM: Yeah. Roger, all cars.

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AM: Sumter, South Carolina.

VJ: Sumter, South Carolina. Rick, where were you born?

AM: I was assumed to be born in (Laughter)

AM: Absolutely not.