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College and relationships, however, have a greater impact on the immediate student body. According to
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Hanna Rosin and her article The End of Men, women earn 60 percent of all masters degrees, 42
percent of all MBAs and 60 percent of all bachelors degrees. Women have become equal in both the Opinion
realms of education and economics, but feminists fail to acknowledge both of these statistics. So, they
continue to push against the evil man until they can push no further.
However, men also may not be adapting to an ever changing environment that we are now a part of.
Markets that require typical male attributes were the greatest areas affected by the decrease of blue
collar jobs during the recession. This has hurt men and the male egos. Still guys, we need to adapt, pull
ourselves up by our bootstraps and claim our place on the pedestal next to women as equals.
The advancement of feminism past the point were at now poses dire consequences for women. Men
have begun to adopt a habit where they are no longer being held to a higher standard, so they can BOETTNER:
slum it in college receiving Cs, while women would kill for an A. Dont get me wrong; the blame Feminism means
shouldnt be placed on women, as it isnt their fault that men chose to only half-ass it in school. The more than
grade difference may come from women wanting to prove themselves in a mens world, whereas men
womens equality
may become complacent.
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The gender gap favoring females has gotten so bad that many colleges are trying to bring more men in
than women to keep enrollment equal. The rolls have flipped. Men are now the minority in certain
schools, and affirmative action may be swinging the other way.
Men have fallen behind by their own doing as well as overreaching feminism. Yet, women are the ones
who are hurt the most when it comes to relationships. Feminism has disturbed the modern relationship
and thrown equal relationships off balance. An equal relationship should be when two people work
together to achieve a common outcome based on mutual desires. However, relationships today are
based on who can get the last word in, who can outdo the other, essentially who comes out on top.
Suzanne Venker the author of The War on Men, stated, Feminism didnt result in equality between
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the sexes it resulted in mass confusion. Today, men and women have no idea whos supposed to do
what.
hurts modern-day
relationships
This statement is best reflected in modern-day relationships, specifically between those of us who are in posted: February 22
college, or leaving it for the real world. Instead of the ideal marriage feminists told you marriage would Comments (44)
become, it has become nothing more than a last resort for many women who want to have kids but find
themselves running out of time on their biological clock.
The fact is women have become so independent and focused on their work many have forgotten how to
have a relationship based on mutual understanding and cooperation. Instead, it has become a
competition, and feminism has turned relationships into a competition of equality as well.
According Suzanne Venker, men have it so easy when it comes to relationships. No longer are men
required to buckle down and court a woman to receive some satisfaction for their needs. Women, like
men, are willing to have quick, easy relationships with little strings attached, or one night stands to
satisfy them. In regards to equality, there is nothing wrong with this. However, this plays into the
stereotypical male mentality one which I disagree with and dont think feminists should strive for. It is a
mentality of promiscuity and conquests verses nurturing a relationship and respecting a woman for who
she is.
The idea of equality can take on two forms. It can either be interchangeable, as when one perfect
replica takes the place of the former. Or it can take the shape of equality of value, as in a relationship.
In our case, valuing the other sex as equals because they can provide traits you cant, and vice versa.
This doesnt mean that women need to do gender-specific activities or men need to do their gender-
specific set as well in their lives or a relationship. All it means, is men and women in a relationship need
to value one another equally and agree to their responsibilities to the relationship, together in mutual
partnership.
In the end, women and men should be equal. Yet, being equal doesnt mean pushing men off the
platform. It means working together to create better relationships, a more lucrative economy for all, and
encouraging stronger moral principles in our youths lives.
The notion that women should be protected, and have the door held open for them will always be
something this writer places value on, which is not anti-feminist. It is in fact the opposite. A man who
places value on a woman in a way such as this is anything but a pig, for we are not equal because we
are interchangeable. We are equal because we value each others joys, sorrows and talents in a
manner completely original to us, yet completely definitive of what a man and woman look for in each
other.
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A few things:
Posts: 1 1. You aren't really talking about feminism here. You are talking about
dysfunctional relationships. Just because a woman will now call you on your
BS, doesn't mean you're any less full of it than you would have been 50 years
ago. (This also means that women will, from time to time, spout their own BS.
You're allowed to call them on that too.)
2. Don't pull that "feminism is antithetical to holding the door for a woman"
card. My wife is a feminist. She enjoys when I get the door for her. Some
women don't enjoy that. It's a personal preference.
3. Really an offshoot of number two - every woman is an individual person,
which is something else you seem to be failing to grasp. Lumping them all
together as either "feminist/evil" and "not feminist/one-of-the-good-ones" is
probably a HUGE factor in (if I'm reading between the lines correctly) your
inability to find and maintain a successful, healthy relationship. If you actually
make an effort to get to know them as such, rather than as cookie-cutter puzzle
pieces to fill the voids in your life, I'm sure your courting efforts will go more
smoothly.
4. You are not Don Draper. You will neverLog
be In
Don Draper. Even
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was
1960's Manhattan, and not 2010's Lincoln, you would never have been Don
Draper. You are, at best, Pete Campbell. (Truthfully, you shouldn't WANT to be
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either one, but you seem to long for the glory days of the white male, so in an
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Dear DN- please employ a copy editor. You are trolling too many people at
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funkathustra po st
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Lemme put on my editor hat and help you out, as you've totally embarrassed
Posts: 2 yourself with this piece.
I'll go over your hollow, baseless claims in a moment, but there's a broader
problem here: you have a short-sighted, sophomoric understanding of gender
issues. As men, we will never fully understand the challenges that women go
through, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't give it our best effort. What you've
written is extremely offensive to the people who work every day to eliminate
gender inequality.
Your first two grafs are identical. Start by deleting either of them.
Third graf:
"So, in an economy that relies on communication and thinking over physical
strength, women are excelling, according to the Institutions and Development
Database."
I have no idea what the "Institutions and Development Database" are, but if
you're referring to the OECD Gender, Institutions
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(GID-DB), the database states that although women make up 55% of the
professional
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0.64. In other words, women are highly skilled and talented; we just don't pay
them very much.
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How does that support your point?
I suppose one could say that feminism has achieved its goals, if those goals
Posts: 1 include 1 in 3 women worldwide being raped or beaten in her lifetime, a
woman earning significantly less money than a man with the same
qualifications and position, or women still being expected to take on the
majority of childcare and household duties even if she and her partner work
the same amount of hours at a "real job." The argument in terms of differences
between college attendance and degree between the sexes is an important one
that needs looked at critically, but instead of looking at the construction of
masculinity and the pillars of hegemonic masculinity, women are blamed for
succeeding in an environment which was not created by or for them.This article
is insulting, and completely ignores any differences by race, class, sexual
orientation, or otherwise. The author's cis-gendered, white, heterosexual, male
privilege definitely shows. And in the future, it may be best to avoid using a
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I was just about to comment, asking if I was the only one who was very
Posts: 1 bothered by the fact that the author is assuming every woman is straight.
Well said!
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literally idiocy. I could edit every single sentence in this article. I wouldn't
Posts: 3 pursue a career in journalism if you're looking to be successful.
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shinkokami08 po st
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I think if this was satire there would be 32 laughing people and 1 offended
Posts: 3 person, rather than the opposite.
boris po
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You should check out some of the previous junk he's "published". It's not
Posts: 2 satire.
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I could go on about how the facts and statistics referenced in this article are
Posts: 1 poorly applied. I could also go on about how this kid has absolutely no
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credibility. But I will simply say this: misguided, chauvinistic tirades like this one
are the very reason women will have to work extra hard to be equal to men
(which we're not, despite what the author may have you believe). I bet he
thinks racism is dead, too.
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Women are now equal to men? From the beginning of the article, I can't grasp
Posts: 1 this argument. I agree with Keaton, and equality between men and women has
not yet been achieved simply because of a difference in the workforce. Look at
the pay rates between men and women for the same job. This article is
ridiculous, although it is well-written, it's a weak argument and an insulting
inference. As a male and a feminist, I think this author needs a little more
research.
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Thoughts:
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1. I find it ironic that rule #4 for commenting says no sexism, and yet that is
exactly what this article is.
2. You need to talk to a feminist, because you have an incredibly skewed
definition of what feminism is.
3. There is solid research to counter pretty much every point made here.
4. This: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/men-dont-recognize-
benevolent-sexism_n_885430.html
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PROTIP: Before attempting to write an article about feminism, make sure you
Posts: 2 actually know something about feminism. Or else you'll look like this guy.
Abbie po st e d at
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It's so incredibly frustrating to see straight white males deny the presence of
Posts: 1 undeserved privilege in their life. Open your eyes.
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My god, Nord, you're a senior English major? I weep for my alma mater. Your
Posts: 1 ridiculously glib and ignorant opinions aside, this piece reads like a middle
school topical essay. Ouch.
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Does the Daily Nebraskan have such a juvenile conception of its role as a
Posts: 1 newspaper and of its First Amendment rights that it continues to publish this
writer's ridiculous trash in some manic effort to prove that they know that they
can? Congratulations, DN, you've stirred up some conversation. Now please,
post something worthy of the University of Nebraska.
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Also, you might consider sending this to The Onion! Seriously, it will get the
Posts: 2 attention it deserves.
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Posts: 1 laughter past the first sentence. Then I started feeling sad when I realized you
actually think this way....
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I love the basis for this opinion's bombastic statements - other people's books
Posts: 3 and articles that support the presupposed view - failing to acknowledge how
those writers came to their conclusions.
Cool DN. Keep sharing sensational claims that bring in the page views. Fuck
self-respect.
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I'm choosing to believe that this is a piece written to purposely rile its audience
Posts: 1 and see how people respond, perhaps for some sort of ridiculous class project.
If i believed anything other than that, it would mean that UNL is now admitting
some of the most ill-informed, backwoods, insecure idiots known to man, and
that would depress me as an alum. Good luck with that project!
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Perhaps before voicing opinions about gender equality you should do a little
Posts: 1 research beyond what you come up with when typing up a stream of
consciousness. Last I checked, women still make an average of $12,000 less
per year than our male-counterparts. This is the first of many errors in an article
filled with obtuse, misinformed statements.
http://www.pay-equity.org/
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Let me begin with a comment on how this is edited. As an English major, the
Posts: 1 author should know not to switch between the passive voice and speaking in
the third person. I'm a music major, and even I know that.
Secondly, this is an opportunity for the author to look at his point of view from
his privilege point. Society has granted him the privilege of being an upper
middle class, educated, white male. Yet he is acting like he's the victim of the
oppression of feminists? I would like to see his sources of information for the
data he presents in this article. Because according to National Committee on
Pay Equity, women only make 77 cents to a man's dollar. So a woman makes
77% of what a man does. And we're only speaking about WHITE women. How
does that make it seem that women are "on top"?
The author makes sweeping general statements about the quality of a modern
woman's relationship and sexuality. Again, let's reinforce the patriarchal
standards of what is acceptable in a woman. Or in anyone! The author is
clearly slut-shaming both men and women for being promiscuous. I don't know
the author, but he still has no right to comment on the promiscuity, or lack there
of, of any person male or female. Log In to report. Link Reply
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Holy wow, I can't even begin to explain how ridiculous and ill-informed this is.
Posts: 1 The author can't get through the first twelve words without making it obvious he
has no idea what he's talking about.
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So if I'm interpreting this right, men are testicles with legs, and women are uteri
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This article makes me sick and I think so much less of the DN now. This is so
Posts: 1 incredibly offensive to women and should have never been published. The DN
should be ashamed. As an alum of UNL, I am incredibly disappointed and am
embarrassed that this is the sort of article that is approved by superiors and
published. Shame on you.
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Dude, I think you posted on the wrong site. The DerN is over here ->
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Thank you for sharing your opinion. I agree with a lot of what you said and it's
Posts: 1 awesome that you have the courage to be honest and share in a respectful
manner. I am a woman who is not a huge fan of feminism and how it's
changing our society. I am not saying that we should be oppressed or have less
opportunities but we are made differently than men to do a different job.
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Uhh, you're a woman? Really? Because I cannot imagine how any rational
Posts: 27 woman would support this the way you are.
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"how it's changing our society" do you enjoy the right to vote? Jesus, please
Posts: 3 educate yourself
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I can't begin to express my distaste for this piece. It doesn't matter that this is
Posts: 1 supposedly an opinion -- publishing it makes the DN look like a shit rag. Zach
Nold is an embarrassment to the paper and should've been terminated long
ago. Spreading ideas such as these perpetuates discriminatory ideologies.
Nold is a goddamn blemish on the face of the state of Nebraska. His
antiquated, small-minded excuse for an opinion is a complete fucking joke, and
to give him a platform on which to dispense that opinion to the general public
is an outrage. His superior at the DN should be ashamed for allowing this
drivel to hit the page.
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Also, I would like to add that Zach Nold is the one who wrote this wonderful
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This makes me sick. Women are STILL making less money than men are - The
Posts: 3 most recent data shows that women working full time, year round are paid 77
cents for every dollar paid to their male counterparts. It's much worse for the
typical African-American woman paid 64 cents and the typical Latina woman
paid 55 cents for every dollar paid to a white, non-Hispanic man. Just because
women have jobs doesn't mean they're being treated fairly. Zach Nold
CLEARLY does not understand what it means to be disenfranchised. His
ignorance is astounding and, frankly, his columns make me think lower of the
DN as a whole.
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If this article were written with the same language, but changed "feminism" to
Posts: 1 "civil rights", "men" to "whites" and women to "blacks" it could have been
written in 1968. This is the most shallow and myopic take on "feminism" I have
read yet. I would expect this article from a High School newspaper, not from a
supposed college senior.
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