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DardanUkiqi 4d
StructuralEngineeratBonacciGroupPtyLtd Stiffness
ModifiersforWalls
DearPeterPlaczek,

1)Whatstiffnessmodifiersshouldbeadoptedforyourbasemodel
aswellasdistributionmodelinETABS,specificallyforf11,f22,
f12?

2)Howdothesevarybetweenearthquakeandwindanalysisorare
thesamemodifiersappliedforboth?

3)Whataretheloweststiffnessmodifiervaluesallowablewhen
tryingtoredistributeloadfromanoverstressedwall?

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PeterPlaczek1)ImodifyF12onlyfor2effects:a)slenderpiersandspandrelsL/d>3
stiffnessisoverestimatedwithoutfinemeshing.F12=0.3fixesit.

b)F12=0.3alsoallowsforcrackingofspandrels

2)modifiersdonotchangeinstrengthmodel.Ifyouhaveservicemodelyoumaygetridof

them,makeall1.0

3)0.01.IfyouhaveawallthatyoudonotwanttoworkasashearwalljustmakeitF12=0.01

beforeyourunthemodelitwillthenneverhaveachancetogetoverstressed.LOL

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DardanUkiqiThanksforyourresponsePeter.

AsabasemodeldoyoualsomodifyF12onotherpierswhicharen'ttooslender?Ihave

currentlyappliedF11=1,F22=1,F12=0.7toallpiersformyinitialmodel,anduponanalysis

andinterpretationofresultsIamthenmodifyingF12onthewallswhichareworkingtoohard

inordertoshedsomeloadontotheotherwalls,isthisthecorrectapproach?ThelowestvalueI

haveadoptedsofarisF12=0.35,butasperabovethiscanbereducedtomuchlowerif

required?Iamlookingatacoresystemwheresomeofthereturnwallsareshortandtherefore

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PeterPlaczekIdon'tuseblanketstiffnessreductionexceptforacaselikepodium
boundaryprecastwalls.ImayapplyF12=0.3toreducetheirshareoftheloadgetthecore

workingharder.IfyouapplyF12=0.7toallwallsthananyotherF12reductionisonly70%

effective.

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SaumilParikhHiDardan
Applyinganymodifierstothewallwillneedtobejustifiedasyouareplayingwiththestiffness

oftheelements.Needtounderstandwhatthesemodifiersdoandnotjustgoandreducethem

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PeterPlaczekYoucanreducestiffnessasmuchasyoulikeifitgivesaworkable
solution.(e.g.youcanassumeawallisnotshearresistingbyF12=0orbynotincludingitin

themodel)

Thatisthebasisofultimatelimitstatedesignphilosophy.

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