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IN ORDER FOR PLMN SELECTION TO HAPPEN UE GETS BROADCASTED INFORMATION AND WILL
READ MIB AND SIB1 (CONTAINS PLMN IDS)

FOR PSS AND SSS PROCESS TO HAPPEN, THIS INFORMATION WILL BE IN 1ST AND 11TH SLOT OF
FRAME FOR PSS AND PSS PRECEDES SSS. THESE ALL NOTHING MEAN TIME , FRAME SLOT LEVEL *T&C Apply

SYNCHRONIZATION.
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AND IF WE SAY SYNCHRONIZATION HAPPENS WHEN UE IS SWITCHED ON AFTER FREQUENCY
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LTE Cell Search Procedure used by UE.

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vote A cell search procedure is used by the UE to acquire time and frequency synchronization with a LTE cell and
UE detects the physical layer Cell ID (PCI) of that cell. Two cell search procedures in LTE: initial
synchronization and detecting neighbor cells in preparation for handover LTE.
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Step-1: After being powered on, UE tunes the RF and attempts to measure the wideband received power
(RSSI) for specific frequencies (channels as commanded by higher layer) over a set of supported frequency
bands one after another and ranks those cells based on signal strength. Similar Questions
Step-2: Then it uses downlink synchronization channels i.e. locally stored P-SS and S-SS to correlate with LTE: Why physical cell identity has been
received one. UE first finds the primary synchronization signal (PSS) which is located in the last OFDM divided into PSS and SSS forms ?
symbol of first time slot of the first and 5th sub-frames This enables UE to be synchronized on sub-frame
level. Primary Synchronization Signal helps for Slot Timing Detection and Physical Layer ID (0,1,2) What is cell selection and plmn selection in
detection. LTE ?

Step-3:: secondary synchronization symbols are also located in the same sub-frame of P-SS but in the In QXDM log, how to identify first RACH
symbol before P-SS. From secondary SS, UE is able to obtain physical layer cell identity group number (0 to message which UE sends?
167) It helps for Radio Frame Timing detection, find Physical Layer Cell ID, cyclic prefix length detection,
How can we check the position of PSS and
FDD or TDD detection.
SSS?
Step-4: Once UE knows the PCI for a given cell, it also knows the location of cell Reference signals - which Similar Question
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are used for channel estimation, cell selection / reselection and handover procedures. After channel
the last and second last OFDM symbols of 2
estimation using RS(reference signal), MMSE equalization is performed to remove the effect of channel
slot zero
LTE:?Why physical cell identity has
impairment from the received symbols.
been divided into PSS and SSS forms
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If 1111=R, 2222=T, 3333=E, 4444=N Then
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Its PSS followed by the SSS Synchronization. Check the following diagram which describes the high level
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For UE to read MIB and SIBs . UE has to be : Frame Synchronized, should know the Time Slot and very
0 important this is that it should know the Physical Cell ID. All these things UE gets from PSS and SSS.
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Only After that UE reads MIB and SiBs followed by RACH.

answer Jun 2, 2015 by Anand Yadav

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Hi sir, am yaswanth.... Similar Question

As u mentioned.......
LTE: Why physical cell identity has
[ For UE to read MIB and SIBs . UE has to be : Frame Synchronized, should know the Time Slot and very important
been divided into PSS and SSS forms
this is that it should know the Physical Cell ID. All these things UE gets from PSS and SSS.
Only After that UE reads MIB and SiBs followed by RACH ] ?

Frame synchronized in the sense are u talking about system frame number.....

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After getting MIBs and SIB1 only UE can be able to complete PLMN selection...before PLMN....cell search and
frequency acquisition process happens.....

in order for FRAME Synchronized , time slot n PSS and SSS to complete before MIB and SIB1 reading ,
and more to say plmn selection...

will UE try to sync (frame n slot level) with all carrier(eg ; airtel,idea,vodafone,aircel service providers ) bands it can
be of capable...and later after plmn selection it goes to that particular carrier.....

PSS info will be sent on 1st and 11th slot of each frame.....so for frame synchronizaton and time to complete without
reading MIB.....from where does UE get this information.....

My view is that after reading MIB which contains SFN.....and SIB1(for selecting particuar network) it completes.
PSS and SSS..

Correct me if i was wrong ...i have written wat i thought of.....

correct me briefly.....by analyzing the way i got back to you...

take your own average time to respond back...

commented Jun 2, 2015 by Yeshwanth Reply Abuse

Hello Yaswanth,

First UE should be synchronized on the Subframe Level and It should know the Physical Cell ID. Also Without
knowing the Physical Cell ID UE can not Read MIB and SIBs. Once it knows the Cell ID it will also come to know the
Cell reference Signals which are generally used for channel estimations. so for all this to Happen UE need to know
the PSS and SSS.

The SFN which you are talking about is the System Frame Number which is generally used for UL Synchronization.

commented Jun 3, 2015 by Anand Yadav Reply Abuse

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