FBI 1996 Investigation of Fishman and Erlich

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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Precedence: ROUTINE Date: 05/30/1996

To: LOS ANGELES Attn: SAC
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Case ID#: 9A-LA-NEW (Pending)
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C URCH OF SCIENTOLOGY- VICTIM;
HREATENING COMMUNICATIONS
Synopsis: Opening of new 9A matter.
Details: For information, captioned matter was predicated on a

telephone call on 5/17/96, from! !security Director,
Church of Scientology, (213) 960-3500. I !advised writer that b6
a message had been received on this date by the church via the b7C
Internet which told of a plan to bomb the Scientology Building in
Los Angeles, commit terrorist acts against high profile members
of the church (Tom Cruise, Kirstie Alley, John Travolta), and
attack the premiere of CRUISE's new movie, "Mission Impossible,......."----.
The message was transmitted via an anonymousre-mailer which!
had identified as being one I Q
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records which can idintify the sender's identity for about 24
hours. As a result _ I requested that the FBI make
contact with! )in order to obtain that information.
On this same date, writer attempted to contact_! ___ ~
with negative results. A detailed message was left on~h=1-s.__ __ b6
answering machine requesting that he contact the FBI. I !did b7C
in fact leave a message on writer's voice mail later this
evening, basically stating that he had no way of determining
sender's identity for the message that had been sent to the
Church of Scientology. I !also indicated thatlL---Zm~:z;~~l-
attempted to contact him as well.
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Re: 9A-LA-NEW, May 30, 1996
On 5/22/96, writer again recontacted~I_,,....,,...---,,-----,,-----'

At this time, they provided the names of two individuals whom
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on....,__....,..._ ____.Both._ __________ have an ongoing history of b7C
liti ation a ainst the church. furnished their addresses as
for! I and_! __ _
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advised at this time that the church had received a telephonic
bomb threat at 8 A.M. on 5/20/96, which was relayed to the Los
Angeles Police Department (LAPD). Thecall was received at the
Celebrity Church International Security Office, 5930 Franklin
Avenue in Los Angeles. Sweeps conducted by LAPD and church
security yielded negative results.
In view of the above, it is recommend~d that a new 9A
case be opened and assigned to writer .

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To: MIAMI
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Case ID#: 9A-LA-198191 (Pending)-J-
Title: UNSUB;
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY - VICTIM;
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00: LOS ANGELES
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synopsis: Request of Miami to interview ...______
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captioned matter. -
Enclosures: Enclosed for Miami is a one(l) page copy of the

Internet message sent to CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY on 5/17/96, signed
"a concerned citizen".
Details: For information of Miami, captioned case was predicated

upon a complaint from! !Security Director of the CHURCH
OF SCIENTOLOGY, Los Angeles, regarding an anonymous threat that
had been received, via the Internet, by the church on 5/17/96.
The message was sent by way of a "re-mailer" which is designed to
mask the identity of the actual sender. The message told of a b6
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plan to bomb the SCIENTOLOGY Building in Los Angeles, commit
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Mission Impossib e. The message is such
t the anonymous sender is simply warning
church members and identifies the culprit of the above planned
acts as onel~-------~I
Contact with the re-mailer, onel lin Santa b6
Barbara, California, disclosed that he had no way of determining b7C
the sender's identity. He pointed out that the whole purpose of
the re-mailer service was to afford anyone the oppi:f~J~S/q/-'2-
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To: MIAMI From: LOS ANGELES
Re: 9A-LA-198191, June 10, 1996
send e-mail via the Internet without fear of discovery. Although

I !places a disclaimer on all the messages sent, he
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acknowledged that under the current system, there is always the
chance that someone will abuse the system, as apparently has
happened in this case.
I !has provided Los Angeles with extensive

background information on one! l the person suspected
by CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY as being the actual sender of the
message. According to! !has never been a practicing
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member of the church, yet has claimed fictitious positions on b7C
church staff and insists that he had a relationship with the
church. He currentl~ a lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court
against the church. L___Jhas furnished documentation confirming
that! ~as served federal prison time for earlier attempts
to frame the church for criminal acts he was committing as well
as for mail fraud. FBI Miami investigated this matter.
I !is very active on the Internet. He is deeply

involved with the Internet news group "Alt.religion.scientology",
a discussion group which s ecializes in criticism of the
SCIENTOLOGY reli ion. is also active in this group
and ~~~~=--....,..r----f_......_ ____..........,been engaged in bitter disputes, via b6
the n erne, a er'"'=:=:""l"==~a former church member who has been b7C
attacking CHURCH OF OGY for years, began exposing some of
I !attacks on the church as groundless and based on lies.
It is because of this ongoing feud thatl I suspects that
I I notl I sent the message.
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To: MIAMI From: LOS ANGELES
Re: 9A-LA-198191, June 10, 1996
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SCIENTOLOGY via the Internet, and any knowledge he may have of
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To: webmaster@scientology._ g W'
From: anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com
/ Subject: Information on a potential threat
comr.,ents: This message is NOT from the person listed in the From line. It is from an
automated software remailing service operating at that address.
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THE PORI'A:. SYST:Y. ::io::s NO'f CONJON::OR AP??.OVEOF 1'HE CONTENTSOF THIS POSTnJG. b7C
Please report problem mail to._ _________ _.com>.
I'm writing to inform you of some new information that's been uncovered on a man named
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I It has been discoveredI that he is planni9g on another avenue of terroris~
against the Church besides Copyright terrorism. He has been secretly meeting with "righ~
wing" patriot and Aryan groups and has been recruiting several members for planr.ed
terrorist
attacks on church offices all across A.~erica. He had connections with several in the
last
three years, ano~g them, Ti~othy ~cveigh, tJe man accused of destroying the A.P. Xurrah
Federa: build:r.g in O~lahoma City. ~l
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Scientology buildi~g in Los Angeles next wro< Yo if :Jeen:,n:~D:
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celeberties fo: :ssassination, among them,_ _ __
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cra.se s new t-1. . It is imperative
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land a plan for an attack on the orem1ere o M1ss1on Imposs1 .e, Mr. __ _
that the BATF.and FBI be contacted to counteract!
I plan before in! I ,.__~
no! cent persons, Scientologist or non-Scientologist are maimed or killed. The DEA w:11
b6 also have to be called in since! !is using drug sales to support his terror:st plan
b7C as well as bogus checks created by the Freemen in Jordan, Montana ..
I w~ll remain anonymous out of fear for my life. This man is a potential killer a~d ~ust
be stopped.
A concerned citizen.
MAY17 '96 10:22 P~E.01
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Case ID#: 9A-LA-198191 (Pending)
Title: UNSUB;
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Synopsis: Contact made with Detective I.__
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Details: For information, on 5t:0/96, writer telephonically

contacted Detective! !Los Angeles Police Department b6
(LAPD), (213) 893-8111. I !name had been furnished to b7C
writer by Church of Scientology officials as the person who had
been contacted regarding captioned matter.
Detective! !acknowledged knowing about the

threat received by the church via the Internet on 5/17/96, and
the fact that church officials had identified one! I
as the possible culprit. However, he stated that absent any hard b6
evidence, he was not focusing onl land was simply b7C
monitoring the situation at this time. I I also stated that
church officials had advised him of a telephonic bomb threat
which had been received on 5/20/96. However, this was a distinct
and separate matter not related to captioned case .
FBI LOS
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9A-LA-198191

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The following t'nvestigation was conducted by Special Agent b6

._ __________ ~_at Los Angeles, California: b7C
On May 28, 1996, SA._ _________ ...., of the Federal

Bureau of Investiqation Los Angeles Field Office telephonically b6
contacted! I
who resides in Santa Barbara, at telephone b7C
I !name had been provided to the FBI by
Church of Scientology attorney I I
as the "anonymous
remailer" on the Internet through whom a bomb threat against the
church and a death threat against church members were received.
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.___ __.!who had already been contacted by church officials, b7C
appeared cooperative in trying to explain how the message was
received by the church. He explained that as an "anonymous
remailer", he facilitates the sending of messages by anyone on
the Internet. Some individuals, for whatever reasons, prefer to
send their messages anonymously and he makes it possible. He
does have a disclaimer which states that he neither.approves nor
condones whatever message is transmitted.
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._ __ __,!recalled the message in question but stated that it b7C
would be impossible to track the sender's origin since the system
is designed to specifically prevent him from doing so. I I
admitted considering "closing up shop" since an unscrupulous few
are causing him problems of this sort. He advised that church
officials had approached him about utilizing a special filter
that would be able to "trap" any threatening communications. He
stated that technique made no sense to him technically and added
that he questioned whether a filter could be selective enough in
determining what key words and the way they were used would
constitute a threat .
._ __ ___.!advised that as a result of the threat and his

conversations with church officials, he had agreed to block the b6
church's address on his system. Therefore, no other threat b7C
should be able to get through the remailer for CHURCH OF
SCIENTOLOGY. He asked church officials if they wished him to
relay the same request to the other handful of remailers in the
country. However, it was his feeling that the church, a
controversial body to begin with, did not wish to draw
unnecessary attention to itself at this time, and increase an
already high profile .
._ __ __,!stated that he was willing to cooperate with the FBI b6

and offered to answer any additional questions as they related to b7C
the Internet and the remailer.
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Synopsis: Results of_! _______ !interview.
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During the interview,! !was shown the anonymous
threats received by the Church of Scientology via the internet.
I !responded by emphatically advising he was not responsible
for the aforementioned anonymous threats. Additionally, I I
acknowledged that he actively criticizes the Church of
Scientology via the internet, however, he does this publicly and b6
not anonymously. I pdvised he takes full responsibility b7C
for all of his articles against the Church of Scientology and
even though he has strong feelings against the Church, he has no
reason to send threfts to the Church or intentions to do so.
Furthermore! _recognized that sending threats via the
internet is illegal. I !advised that all of his articles
can be reviewed via the internet usin: the following personal
website address: HHP://www.xs4all.n1L I
In reference to.__ ______ ....,...
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liking ~I _____! _h_o_w_e
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Re: 9A-MM-198191, 08/06/1996
and molested his daughters in the past, but still continues to

represent himself as a Reverend.
According tol la restraining order was issued in
Clearwater, Florida against! !restricting him from the
Church of Scientology of Clearwater, due to prior violence b6
against the Church. It is for these reasons thatj rislikes b7C
I !and not for his views against the Church~ _ has
been public about his personal dislike against! 1and would
never attack him anonymously.
In the meantime, I I
recognized that the Church of
Scientology probably suspected him of writing these threats due
to his ]ublic dislike of the Church and! J Additionally, b6
I _does not believe! !would do something of this b7C
manner, however, would not put it past the Church, inasmuch as
both he and! I are public opponents of the Church.
Based on the above mentioned, no further investigation
will be conducted in Miami.
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Dear alt.religion.scientology,
I met with Special Agent Junior Ortiz of the Miami FSr today at 5 PM. I
invited Mr, Ortiz to my home in order to discuss an anonymous threat which
the F.Sr recetved via a complaint filed by the church of Scientology in Los
Angeles,
Agent 0.rtiz showed me a document which was sent through an anonymous

rernailer to webmaster@scientology.org which stated that Dennis Erlich had
threatened to Plow up various Scientology buildings,
According to the complaint, the Church of Scientology accused me of sending
this anonymous rernail to them because of my personal disagreement with
ErUch.
Agent O~tiz, whose telephone nllltlber in Mial\'\i is (305) 7Bi-6610, asked me if

I had sent the letter. l did not, and l told him.
He also asked if, in my opinion, Dennis Erlich se~t it. I told him that
Dennis could not have sent it either.
The e-mail "warned" Scientology that Dennis E.rl;i.ch was a "close friend of
Timothy McVeigh" {from the Oklahoma boml:>ing) and a roember of the Aryan
militia. I told Agent Or~iz that Oennis may be a hypocritical "reverend~
and the father from Hell, but he is not a right-wing skinhead and there is
no way Dennis would have sent it. The e-mail al$o "warned" Scientology
that Dennis was about to blow up some Scientology buildings.
~hat is when tn~ red flag went up, ~his seemed awfully similar to what
they tried to do with Henry, set him up for phony bomb threats. My theory
is that the salne person who went after Henry did this.
Scientology could have a great IDotive: to kill two bircts with one stone.
Eithe~ get Dennis in trouble (for made-up violence) or get ~e in trouble
(for trying to set up Dennis).
The newsgroup knows that there is nc love lost between Dannis and myself.
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I can't stand him. However, I am not going to allow anyone to get framed
--- including Dennis --- for anything they did NOT do, and this is a very
obvious, transparent attempt to capitalize on the serious personal
disagreement wl'1ioh Dennis and I have,
So now we come to the part about the anonymous remailer, A crime was
committed here --- to frame me, or Dennis or both, and I am filing a
complaint, and r have requested Agent Ortiz to go against ~he anonymous
remailer in order to flush the perpetxator out, once and for all, and I
believe it is the same person who tried to set up Henry a year ago.
Idon't communicate with Dennis, but I am urging that he also contact Agent
Ortiz and file his own complaint because the e-mail has attempted to
implicate him in the most despicable criilli.nal acts --- blowing up
buildings, terrorism, etc. He can call Agent Ortiz at (305) 787-6610.
Agent Ortiz may in the meantime get in touch with him.
Whoever did this thing out there isn't going to hide pehind the anonymous
rernailer for long. This is terrorism --- a national security issue --- and
it is my understanding that the anonymous remailing service will be served
with subpoenas to produce these records. I rnight not be able to afford to
do it, but the FBI is taking this case very seriously. And you oan be
sure, whoever did this, that I am going to be the biggest pain in the ass
that anyone ever saw until I find out who sent this threatening letter.
This stinks of ~n inside CSA job --- right out of Operation Freakout of
years ago, the operation conducted to frame Paulette Cooper. Scientology
apparently thought they were in a no-lose situation. They could use an
anonymous remaiier, send a series of threats via e-mail to themselves
implicating Dennis Erlich, figuring tbat either the FaI would take these
stupid threats seriously and arrest Erlich or go after me as the possible
perpetrator as Scientology "suggested" to th~ :i;-BI.
One thing is certain --- lam filing a complaint, and I plan to meet with
FBI agents later in the week who are experts in anonymous remailers. If
Dennis joins in and files his own complaint, so much the better, At least
he should contact Agent Ortiz and get the data so he can verify that there
is an operation being run on him,
And, oh, yes, l did verify that I was actually talking to an FBI agent.
(no more pest control episodes are ever going to be run on rne).
I just want to let the a,r,s. unal)omber know that anonymous rernailers are
not going to be a shield against terrorism and criminal activity, This
unahomber is going to be caught. A court order will be obtained and the
remailing service is going to have to fork over those records, There is a
paper trail here , and the FBI is going to crack it wide open.
If you have any information abou~ this, contact Agent Orti% at (305)
787-6610.
The viewpoint I got is that if both Dennis and I file complaints, then the
~nahombe.:i:: is going down, and is going to OUTEDbig time, not only on
a.r.s., but on the front page of every newspaper in the country,
I wonder whether the: cult has just turnect on "Jaws" (the super shredding
machine at Flag) and/or is starting to re-write the a.r.s. unahoinber's
history too,
!f the pe:cpetrator is reading this, better turn yourself in to the FBI

righ~ now --- you might get a chance to plea bargain for a lighter
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To: Los Angeles
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Title: UNSUB;
Synopsis: Case status.
Details: On 10/8/96, writer telephonically contacted_! _____ ...._~

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_________ __,! Attorney for captioned victim.,.;..;..__,_
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thereafter arranged for a conference call including_! ____ ____. b6
Security Director, Church of Scientology. During the conference b7C
call, writer informed! Jthat investigation
conducted by the FBI had met with negative results. I !and
!!indicated that the Church of Scientology had recently been
~ictim of other threats and a resulting shooting, unrelated
to captioned matter. I lgave the example of the shooting as
an indicator of attitudes of individuals who threaten the Church
of Scientology.
thereafter ad ised they were pursuin~
other matte._r_s_w_h_i_c_h_t_h_e_y_b____,elieve
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activities of I !and that he would forward it directly to
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To: Los Angeles From: Los Angeles
Re: 9A-LA-198191, November 21, 1996
had more incidents involving threats and subsequent violence

(unrelated to captioned matter).
Abelson advised he will forward the promised b6

information regarding! Fithin the next few days. b7C
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May 20, 1996
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Dear Special Agent._! ___ ~

Included with this letter is a general biography ofl b6
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some of his Internet ostings attacking-1-=---=--......._ __ ____,. b7C
(and! !attacking and some commentary on
,.........,;.;,;;=.__
__ l_e_x_p~ertise on ~-e---e-r-net .
.____ ~!is a former Church member who has been attacking the b6
Church of Scientology for years. Most recently he has posted b7C
Church trade secrets and Church copyrighted material on the
Internet. The Church has sued him on Federal District Court in
San Jose.
Since our background material re! !is enclosed,
I will limit my comments.! I is a convicted felon who b6
attempted to defend his fraud case by maintaining "The Church b7C
made him do it." He was ultimately convicted of the underlying
charges, plus obstruction of justice for stiffing in an alleged
Church order to kill his psychiatrist and then commit suicide.
b6
---~T~h~e bureau was able to locate the caller who was paid by b7C
.______ !to make this call .
._______ ....,!was never a Scientologist, yet still maintains
otherwise. He currently has a lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior
court against the Church, but more significantly is at war with b6
I I on the Internet with I !stating I !lies b7C
about his alleged Scientology background. This is unique on .the
Internet since Church critics have never attacked each other.
This is the basis for our suspectinq! I together with the
fact that this is th~ type of thingL !could do.
Finally, we are aware that if contacted by law enforcement
both.__ _________ will claim harassment by the c~urch and b6
b7C
attempt to use our involvement to their advantage in thependi:ng
cases.
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May 20,
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Knowing this, because of the nature of the threats and the
innocent people at risk because of them, we have no choice but to
bring this to your attention.
We appreciate your immediate assistance in this matter.
Sincerelv.
b6
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EA:jjr
Enc.
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20 May 1996
DOCUMENTS CONCERNING!________ _
1. Copy of the May 17, 1996 anonymous e-mail sent to the web master of the
Scientology internet site saying thatl lwas planning an attack on the
Scientology building.
b6
2. Postings on alt.religion.scientology newsgroup showing the current feud b7C
between! I
3. Portion of July 1990 sentencing memorandum of Judge Lowell D. Jensen in
USA vJ I
4. Documentation of the fact that ....
1 __ .....,lis
computer literate.
5. Copies of recent postings by._l__ I_____________

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From: inForm@primenet.com (Rev. Dennis L Erlich)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Lonesome Squirrel (was, R.U. Fishman's 'Flack', SteveO?)
Date: 18 May 1996 08:39:02 -0700
Organization: inFormer Ministry
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Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <319dec6b.399343l@news.primenet.com>
References: <4nipgu$j2@dfw-ixnews9.ix. -netcom.com>
X-Posted-By: ip068.lax.primenet.com
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/16.227
Steve Fishman~ @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> I will not use a.r.s. as a forum to litigate my lawsuit.
You were the one who made the Loathsome Rodent's Tail available and
used it to pump the newsgroup up, Steve. You are the one who has
accused Lyman Spurlock of rape. You are tha one who made the
credibility of your squirrely writing so serious. When you accuse a
man of rape, Fishman, you better f***ing have the facts to back it up.
A little late now to back away from it now.
>If the most we can argue about is Bitty's accent and Lyman's belly, I
>couldn't have done that bad a job.
Get real, Fishman. The bullsh*t in there has not even begun to be
taken apart.
Tell us about all the courses you took and the auditing you got
while you were an Illegal PC undergoing the~apy from a shrink.
This I gotta hear.
Rev. Dennis L Erlich **the inFormer * *
<dennis.l.erlich@support.com>
<inForm@primenet.com>
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Subject: Re: "The Steve Fishman Show! Starring . "
Date: 18 May 1996 08:39:03 -0700
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References: <4niqia$j2@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>
Steve Fishman <. @ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>If they replaced Miscavige with Koos, they would be getting
>someone with the highest level of compassion and integrity.
That rips it!
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sose278720@aol.com (SOse278720) wrote:
>Why'ncha wait till you have more info on that "if" before you get your
>knickers in such a twist?
Get a grip, Steve-O! I've been watching Steve and following his
little saga since 1991. You insult my observational skills when you
accuse me of jumping to conclusions.
>Hmm I just logged on to post this, and saw Fishman's post, in which he
>seems to imply that LS is intended to be basically factual. I think I'm
>starting to lean towards Dennis' option#3 ...
And that was?
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gate. sgi .com!news .msfc.
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sose278720@aol.com (SOse278720) wrote:
>Well, better
>Koos than the OSA, I guess (unless, of course, they're one & the same )
I've never assumed that wasn't a possibility.
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To:Ll_,.------..._....J May 31, 1996
I _____
From: ... __.
b6
Re: Bomb Threat b7C
I___
Dear ... ____,
Please see the attached memo which is an analysis
of Internet traffic in relation to the bomb threat. Let
me know if you have any questions.
b6
b7C
., .
May 29, 1996
Re: Internet Terrorist Threat

"A concerned citizen" e-mail dated 17 May 1996
addressed to webmaster@scientology.org.
The attached anonymous .e-mail message was received via

the Internet by the Church of Scientology International World
Wide Web site manager. The message is a "warning" of various
terrorist acts which were to be taken against the Church and
Church members by one._ _______ ~ The message is signed b6
"A concerned citizen", however we have reasons to believe the b7C
actual author was! I an ex-convict and diagnosed
compulsive liar who has been attacking the Church for many
years.
lfirst attacks on the Church occurred in the
late....,,.1-g-g~o~,~s-w--.-h_e_n
he was under investigation by the FBI for
over $1 million in mail fraud and! !determined to
defend himself by attempting to blame the Church for his
crimes. I Jwas not successful and he was convicted for b6
these crimes as well as obstruction of justice charges over his b7C
bogus attempt to frame the Church. I !became a vocal
critic of the Church while in jail and was quoted in Time
magazine making the same false accusations which had been
the basis of his obstruction of justice conviction
.----- ....------~!maintains extensive communication with_! ___ _
I
a former Church mernbef who has also been attacking
_t_h_e_C_h-urch for years. lis currently in litigation
b6
b7C
with the Church, having been sued for copyright infringement
and trade secret misappropriation for posting copyrighted
materials on the Internet.
Bothl I
are active on the Internet
newsgroup'alt.religion.scientology" (ars), a discussion b6
group which s ecializes in criticism of the Scientology b7C
religion. L,,_ ___________ ___.have been engaged in bitter
disputes after_,, _ ____,,_began exposing some ofl I
attacks on the Church as groundless and based on lies, and
1 hed this information on ars. I lhas attacked
Q
p
back for this.
ic fight
Scientology
It was immediately
that the anonymous threat
webmaster
following this
was e-mailed to the
._ _________ lhas never been a practicing member of

the Church, yet he has claimed fictitious positions on staff
and has claimed relations with Scientology staff members for
years in order to claimn his delusory relationship to the
Church. When he first came into contact with the Church in b6
1976, he had been under-going psychiatric treatment for b7C
approximatley 20 years. This included hypnotherapy and drug
therapy as well as institutionalization. He has been
diagnosed as a "schizophrenic, chronic, undifferentiated."
He admitted, as well, to being "a compulsive liar." His
1
,. ,
med"ica-41 f i 1 e,~ are rep 1 ete . wit h instances
o f comp1 e t e I.y
irresponsible acts such as setting fire to a building in a
summer camp when he was a child.
The ars newsgroup consists of about 15 former
Scientologists who are critical of their experiences in the
Church, and several non-Scientologists who comment on their
statements. The term "copyright terorrist" (used in the
e-mail threat) was coined on this newsgroup to refer to
people who have engaged in malicious infringement on the
Internet.
Attempting to get the Church to investigatel~ __ ___,!and
b6
file complaints with the BATF, FBI and DEA as a means of b7C
getting back at him, fits the modus operandi of l~-----
The factors which lead tol bs a key suspect for ~~c
the threatening e-mail are as follows:
____ l_. One of the main participants in ars is\ I
~---~1 In December 1994 and early 1995,! _posted
Scientology materials on the internet on ars. Certain of
those materials are unpublished works, constituting an
advanced level of scriptures of the Scientology religion.
These trade secrets are owned by Religious Technology Center b6
(RTC), which is also the exclusive licensee of the b7C
copyrights. Bridge Publications, Inc. is the exclusive
licensee under the copyrights in the published works by L.
Ron Hubbard which were posted. I !was contacted by RTC
attorneys and told to cease and desist, but he did not. RTC
then filed for, and was granted, a TRO and then a
preliminary injunction against him. RTC was also given a
summons to seize his computer and storage files to search
for any other copyrighted materials. The case between RTC
andl lis still on-going.
2. Toward the end of December 19 9.5, ~I--------
began participating in the ars newsgroup, posting stories b6
about his claimed involvement in Scientology. He posted b7C
lies about Scientology services he claimed to have received
and activities he claimed to have participated in on behalf
of the Church (more alleged justifications for his criminal
history).
______
3.
.....,._.....,.
the Internet.
Apprqximately
_,!called
3 weeks ago, a manuscript
"The Lonesome Squirrel"
The manuscript,
written
was posted
which appears to have been
by
written by him while in jail, is a compilation of many of b6

the lies he has been telling for a number of years about his b7C
involvement in Scientology. A month prior to that, he
claimed he would never be able to publish the manuscript
because it was destroyed by an employee of a pest control
company who deliberately wiped out the storage on his
computer. At that time,! !claimed that this pest
control employee was a secret agent for the Church. (This
is a blatant lie and there are doubts as to whether or not
the pest control company even exists.)
4. Once the manuscript was available on the Internet,
the various participants in the newsgroup started reading
I I
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t A ,;few b ~~.........,wr-
~:Ying .ht e errors. con t aine
. d in
on other data._ __ ..-~had posted by that time, as well as
. 1tb ( ase d
b6
b7C
their own persona owledge), and they started commenting
on it on the ars newsgroup.
5.
One of the main le to criticize it
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a liar
been on staff
-- was
at a ChuLr_c_h----1-o_c_a_t_i_o_n_w
ha
__ e_r_e..,- .......
--,
b6
claiming certain fictitious incidents occurred. b7C
began pointing out a few of the discrepancies in
stories and suggested! llet the newsgroup kn._o_w_,..-o-w
_ __,
much of the manuscript was made up and how much was fact.
b6
I !became defensive, and refused to admit any of b7C
the manuscript was false.
6.
On top of this criticism, another situation was
building two weeks prior to the manuscript's posting, where b6
I Jwas caught in two other lies. He posted on the b7C
newsgroup the addresses and phone numbers for two people he
thought were Scientologists, or connected to the Church.
However, he had the wrong names and addresses. Posting real
names and addresses of individuals on the Internet without
their permission is considered a violation of the code of
ethics of the Internet. Getting the wrong people is even
worse. What he had done was put these people's personal
information on the Internet for thousands to see. He
suggested people contact them and complain about the Church.
_____ O=n=e.aa.....,long-term
ars participant.! I
pointed out
I ~rror the first time. I ~id not apologize
b6
or back down. He then posted the name and address for the
second person, which was also wrong. This time, the person b7C
whose name he posted found his n~me an ~he Internet and got
upset. The person contacted! . Jand asked what was
going on _. At that point,l .... _____ angrily lectured! I. on
getting his facts straight before posting.
This inciden~
were underway whenf ____
and thi arguments with
__,hired a new attorney
Iat the ena
I
of April. He then posted a notice that he was advised by
his attorney to discontinue posting matters on the newsgroup b6
which could relate to his litigation. By that time, b7C
whoever, his "Lonesome Squirrel" story, and all the horror
stories he had related about Scientologists and the Church,
were jn question. I I had been largely discredited by
I !with others joining in
....____ __,lhas continued to post minor items to the
newsgroup, so it is obvious that he does watch it and has
most likely seen the attack on his story continue. I
I lis still taking I llies apart. and Qth._e_r__ _,
ex-Scientologists are agreeing with points! ]makes. b6
There h:ve been a few posts where! !has flat-out called b7C
I Ja liar, and other postings of others making
statements like "that's not true" or "that's incorrect."
Calling him a liar is one thing that he cannot tolerate and
he admits it in more than one of his postings.
Considering his criminal history, his attempts to
. ~lame the ~bn'jch for hiif !tions, and his responses:, b6
I and his responses to being called a 11
liar 11
the b7C
e-mail threat is clearly something he would do.
-oOo-
b6 Internet Terro}ist Threat Index
-
May 29, 1996
b7C
I -
1. 17 May 1996 - e-mail received at webmaster@scientoloqy.org
from anonymous-remailer insinuating that~! _______ _
planned terrorist acts against the Church.
2. 5 May 1996 - posting byl lin which he admitted

he got very angry about being attacked personally.
3. 6 May 1996 - posting by! !regarding his book
"Lonesome Squirrel" containing stories about the crimes
he had committed.
4. 6 May 1996 - posting by! !explaining torture
he would like to see another poster experience.
5. 13 May 1996 - posting

he is deluded.
by ~I_____ ____,!
telling I
----
6. 13 May 1996 - posting by I taking a art I a

I
is a meglomaniac
!posting line-by-line,
and ordering
telling
him to behave.
1 !he
7. 14 May 1996 - osting by! !in response

to ____ .......,ab=o=u=t=-=a~_other
poster's relationship
to ends it with an insult to
8. 14 May 19 9 6 - posting
posting messages
by!
with aliases.
!accusing I___ Iof
....
b6
b7C
9. 15 May 1996 - posting by a.r.s. individual quoting

parts of thel Ion-going fight.
10. 15 May 1996 - posting by! !where he questions

I !hypnosis to "enhance memories."
11. 15 May 1996 - postin;.:......=..'--1,,-.-------responding to

questions about from another poster in
which he implies that posted under an
anonymous name.
12. 16 May 1996, - posting by._! _____ ____,!abou~
book, defining it as " .. an artful mixtu._r_e_o....,f
.........
f,...a_c_t_
and fiction.
13 19 May 19 9 6 - posting by I !regarding his

attorney's instructions to him that he not discuss
matters pertaining to his litigation on the net.
14. 23 [y 1996 - nostj Jg by I
language.
I commenting on
15. 24 May 1996 - posting by! telling! I

that calling peopl~ names was demeaning and
b6
suggesting~ write his own biography~ b7C
--oOo--
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Subject: Re: CRITICS SAY NO TO OUTING (was "I can speak.")

From: Steve Fishman <xenu@ix.netcom.com>
Date: 1996/05/05
Message-Id: <4mil97$k2i@dfw-ixnewslO.ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom
X-Netcom-Date: Sun May 05 11:33:43 AM CDT 1996
Sherilyn <Sherilyn@sidaway.demon.co.uk> writes:
> In article <4mgclh$lko@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, Steve Fishman
> <xenu@ix.netcom.com> writes
>>>I don't buy these excuses. If Steven Fishman posts any more outing
>>>stuff I shall consider withdrawing from the group.
> >I agree that it is not worth getting an ulcer over if there is anyone
> >who can't take the pressure here.
> Bastard. :)
Wrong, I've got a mommy and daddy.
> >Personally, I have found my niche, and plan to stay here until the
> >swallows return from Capistrano, until the fat lady sings and
> >until the cows come home.
> Okay, so you called my bluff.
> I still don't agree with this. Consider the harm you could do if some
> nutter gets hold of an address you publish and commits a serious crime
> using the information.
Now here you HAVE a valid point, of course. But I am not giving away
National Defense secrets and passing it to the KGB.
But along with this valid point comes the fear or perception that this
COULD happen, and it sends a strong message to people like Eugene Ingram
who might see this possibility occurring as well, although in Ingram's
case I don't think he would care because he is such a criminal.
So I have proposed a compromise to try to end this flame war:
The next time I intend to "OUT" someone, I will first post my

intentions and what information I have and why I want to OUT this
individual.
I will allow a cooling off period (because generally I have done this
"OUTING" when I have been very angry about being attacked personally
or when I have seen grave injustices on a.r.s. such as the lawsuit
against Grady Ward which prompted me to embark on this course of action
in the first place ....
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I will categorically say right now that when I find Ivan Durekovich, I
will OUT him no matter what, because this is very personal.
But in all other cases I will weigh the potential help vs. harm it would
cause and included in this is the dischord and splintering of the group,
which I really don't want to see occur.
You have to realize that this group is evolving, emotions run high, and
there is a time and a place for reacting appropriately. I still feel what
I did was aboslutely right, but I don't want to be the cause of creating
internal animosity amongst the critics.
As one friend of mine e-mailed me today, it might be far more effective

to OUT these people in Court where it counts.
And to that extent my friend is right.
So for the moment I am going to consider all of the factors including the
disruption to the group. I agree to state my intentions to out someone in
advance (except for Ingram and Durekovich) and see how the group reacts
first.
I personally would rather spend the time being more effective, as I have
been told, by helping put the backlinks and submit-its out there so that
people can find the critics pages on the web.
I realize that even though the "OUTING" may make ME feel a lot better, it
has had limited effectiveness.
Still, it may have its place at the right time and under the
right circumstances.
This is the last thing I want to say on it because I want to move on to

more important things.
I hope you can all live with this.
With Best Wishes,
Steve Fishman
> For information about what the cult of scientology is doing to your right of
> free speech on the Net:
> http://www.cybercom.net/-rnewman/scientology/home.html
> No fancy graphics, no flythrus, no crap. Just solid information. More hits!
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Subject: Re: Cook Snipe Hunting with Fish bait
Date: 1996/05/06
Message-Id: <4mjh11$5kl@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
X-Netcom-Date: Sun May 05 7:27:13 PM CDT 1996
mikesmith3@aol.com (MikeSmith3) writes:
> Okay, "Nite-Latch", I'll make you a deal. You post a full confession of
> all your crimes and I'll publically announce my true identity. Please be
> sure to include ALL of the ones against Church of Scientology.
I already have, you fucking Russian Nazi Scientologist piece of shit. The
Lonesome Squirrel is loaded with crimes I committed on behalf of your stinking
cult.
And I don't make deals with conspirators to commit murder, like you, Ivan.
> These will, of course, need to be fully documented in a sworn statement.

> And you will need to drop all your bogus counter-claims too. Are you game?
The only thing I would like you to DROP is DEAD, Ivan.
> >The evidence is circumstantial but too much so to be a coincidence.
> >The anti-semitic remarks of Mike/Ivan, their intimate knowledge with

> >Miami landmarks woven into their posts, their identical brand of covert
> >hostility, their writing style .... No, they are the same, Anonymous Steve "J".
>Oh-and by the way Steve, my next best friend is also Jewish. Boca Tov.
> Mike
Does anyone know how to say "Fuck You" in Hebrew for the benefit of Ivan and
all of his best friends? They never taught that to me while I was studying for
my Bar Mitzvah.
With Best Wishes,
Steve Fishman
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Subject: Re: "NITE-LATCH" Fishman - Military Record <by Ivan MikeSm
Date: 1996/05/06 ....
Message-Id: <4mjhkv$5k1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
X-Netcom-Date: Sun May 05 7:37:51 PM CDT 1996
an45l544@anon.penet.fi (Prignilliu) writes:
> 3 May 1996

> In article <4m59j0$jgo@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>,
> Steve Fishman <xenu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >mikesmith3@aol.com (MikeSmith3) writes:
> [a cross between D/A and satire]
> >I've got a game perfect for you, Ivan.
> >It's called Russian roulette.
> >Play that one.
> >A lot of us think it would be hysterical if you lost!
>Anda lot us us (most, I hope) do not. I don't wish death on

> anyone, no matter how vigorously I oppose their actions.
Why did my wife have to die after meeting with him? Why do my
children have to be without their mother?
Death is too good for Ivan Durekovich. I would much rather see him
put in a cage and tortured every day of his life with hot coals on
long sticks.
> Death comes fast enough to each person without other human
> beings hurrying it along.
For Ivan and those criminals in the cult who have contributed to
the death of innocent people no punishment is fast enough.
> >Steve Fishman
> Prignillius
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Subject: "Clique? I don't gotta sho you no steekeen clique."
Date: 13 May 1996 15:41:02 -0700
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xxxx@ix.netcom.com (STEVEN FISHMAN) wrote:
Me:
>>Yea, but I don't, Steve. Who comprises the clique of which you
>>speak?
>> Be specific here, Steve. To whom are you refering.
Steve:
>I have made my peace with Ron Newman. I have excused Sister Clara on
>the basis that my outing was wrong. I can understand and have forgiven
>Tarla Star for reporting me to Netcom for the same reason, although I
>am not happy at her action. I do not excuse Diane Richardson. I find
>her malicious and vicious towards me.
You think too highly of your self. "Made peace", "excused"
"forgiven", "won't excuse". On what deluded moral high ground do you
place yourself in order to presume to place _s_u_chjudgements on these
decent folk? Hmm? What makes you think anyone cares a wit aJ:?out youi
pontifications? Did someone write you and tell you "good for standing
up to that ars clique?"
>So the clique has narrowed down to 1 person, thank God.
Us wogs call that "an individual." Not a clique, Steve.
>>>I have been flamed beyond the wildest furnace for challenging David
>>>Mayo and I have done so because I think that mind control stinks
>>>no matter which a.r.s. icon is promoting it.
>
>>David is hardly an icon. Nor are you.
>
>I don't want to be an icon. I delete them from my program manager
>all the time and I wouldn't want to be any less rational with David.
This sentence reeks of delusion, Steve. WTF *are* you talking
about?
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From: wbarwell@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (William Barwell)
Subject: Re: "The Steve Fishman Shawl Starring II
Date: 13 May 1996 21:39:07 -0500

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In article <3197b4b7.1532737@news.primenet.com>,
Rev. Dennis L Erlich <inForm@primenet.com> wrote:
>xxxx@ix.netcom.com (STEVEN FISHMAN) wrote:
>
>>I hope I am not typecast with only one role.
>>Then I will never get any good acting jobs.
>
> This better be the real thing, Steve. Script it with 100% truth.
>
>>There is a little bit of the clown in all of us, and I may have the bug
>>more than the rest.
>
> No flights of fancy are needed, Steve.
>
>>But I have stopped the outing, I saw that mistake. However I disagreed
>>with Ron Newman when he ordered me to stop attacking his friends.
>
> He can say what he likes, right?
>
>>I
>>would not attack anyone because they were Ron Newman's friend~. I
>>wouldn't even attack people just because they were Ron Hubbard's
>>friends. My attacks were based upon (1) being called a liar who
>>INVENTEDLavenda and
>
> I considered the posibility myself.
>
>>(2) being ordered to stop criticizing David Mayo
>>for his failure to take responsibility in some small part for the death
>>of Flo Barnett.
>
> "Ordered" isn't the word. But if you had a clue about net.culture,
>you'd know that.
>
> And besides, you are not in charge of assigning responsibility
>around here, Steve. Leave off it. There's no reason to treat David
>rudly. He and Julie have been through it. Of anybody I know, they
>were just practicing the "religion" religiously. They had no OSA.
>They never locked people in basements or tortured them. These are
>just "tek" people. I can assure you, that they didn't think they were
>hurting people when they audited them. Quite the contrary. Now if
>they want to change their mind about the tek, they will not do so
>because some lout like you is screaming at them.
>
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>
Behave you.fself,, Steve. .Idlat *is* an order 1
>>I have to fight back because being attacked for (1) and (2) are wrong.
1
>>I have made my peace with the outing, and I can't do any more than
>>that.
>
> F*ck your peace, Steve. Calm down and you won't do any more stupid
>stuff. Pump yourself up, and you're headed for an unpleasant
>consequence. I can see it comin'.
>
Good advice, Steve.
Net credibility is a precious commodity. Once lost it is hard to regain.

Without it, you are a ghost, a dead man typing. Like Koos or other net
kooks.
Calm down and don't let the pressures of real life make you
take it all out on the net. Thrashing about won't help your
cause.
Make your posts count. That is the best revenge.
Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope Of Houston
Slack!
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From: dennis.l.erlich@support.com
Subject: LAVENDAVANSCHAICK -
Message-ID: <9605141410.0JWMP01@support.com>
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Steve Fishman <xxxx@ix.netcom.com>

referen@neont.com (Diane Richardson) writes:
> But I admit it. TarlaStar and I are a clique. We've never argued
> about anything I can think of, although come to think of it I wasn't
> all that happy when she decided to drive the Crosstown Bus to Tod'l
> Freedom topless.
I knew it all along! If anyone was allowed to drive the Bus
topless, you figgered it ought to be you. Right Diane?
Admit it.
Steve Fishman <xxxx@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Are you outing her or something? What is that last crack for?
A joke, Oh Clueless One.
>And yes, you just confirmed why I mentioned her being your little
>puppet.
Get a grip, foo.
>And to think there was once a time when I came on this newsgroup
>that I really looked up to you and I really liked you.
Hmm. What a concept! The same may one day be said to you,
Steve.
>What a fool I was.
*Am*, Steve. "What a fool I am."
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Subject: Re: LaVenda Van Schaick -- are you out there?
Date: 14 May 1996 16:06:02 -0700
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tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote:
Steve f:L~hman <xxxx@ix.nE!tcom.com>~asks Tilman:
/>>Did you ever find out WHYthe Clearwater Police Detective used
'>.>an alias?
Tilman:
>I'm not sure if I remember.
Well I do!
>I think he used a friend's acount?
Of course that is right, Tilman. No alias.
Steve, is this alias business yet another instance of you trying to
'pump up' the newsgroup?
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Subject: Re: Free Speech on a.r.s. vs. Orders from Ron Newman
Date: 15 May 1996 16:42:02 GMT
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In <31990f27.7209894@news.primenet.com> 1nForm@primenet.com (Rev.
Dennis L Erlich) writes:
>
~Steve
$ - . Fishman
.- - <xxxx@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>\>I am asking that they look within and search their own
>:>.consciences and ask themselves if they could have helped Flo before
>:>.she committed suicide. That's all I can do.
>
> You characterize your barrage of insinuations and shotgun accusations
>against David and Julie as merely a polite request.
>
> But of course it's just more of your bullsh*t. Isn't it Steve?
>
Maybe it's just anger. Honest anger. And not BS at all.
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Subject: Re: Hypnosis induetion was successfully used to clarify recall in Lones
ome Squirrel
Date: 15 May 1996 09:52:02 -0700
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lippard@Primenet.Com (James J. Lippard) wrote:
>In article <4n8okl$q1l@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>,
>'STEVENFISHMAN <xxxx@x.netcom-.com> ~ote:-
>->AsI have said before, I did not walk around with a tape recorder at
~>Flag. The conversations have been editorialized as to syntax,
>>punctuation, etc. This may also shock people, but when certain events
>>were unclear, I have asked Dr. Geertz to take me deep into hypnosis
>>(Dr. Geertz is a very eminent hypnotist, professor of clinical hypnosis
>>as well as professor of psychiatry and psychology) to obtain more vivid
>>renderings of many of the events in the book.
>
>More vivid? Sure.
>
>More accurate? Absolutely not.
>
>The empirical evidence is overwhelming that hypnosis does not enhance
>accuracy of recall in the slightest--in fact, it hampers it, because
>it makes the subject more suggestible and able to confabulate wild
>details which are then sincerely believed.
>
>This is why recall under hypnosis is not admissible evidence in a court
>of law in the United States.
Interesting point, Jim.
Hey, wasn't it originally Steve's mission to entrap his shrink,
Gertz?
>I'll be happy to provide references upon request. (The work of
>Martin Orne was instrumental in getting hypnotic _recall barred from
>the courtroom.)
Thanks for the insight.
Why one would use hypnosis to "enhance memories" of awake events
that happened 10 years prior, is beyond me.
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From: av282@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin G. v. Hunt)
Subject: Re: LAVENDAVANSCHAICK -
Date: 15 May 1996 03:29:58 GMT
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(dennis.l.erlich@support.com) writes:
> Steve
- - - Fishman--- _';.
<xxxx@ix.netcom.com>
>
> referen@neont.com (Diane Richardson) writes:
>> But I admit it. TarlaStar and I are a clique. We've never argued
>> about anything I can think of, although come to think of it I wasn't
>> all that happy when she decided to drive the Crosstown Bus to Tod'l
>> Freedom topless.
>
> I knew it all along! If anyone was allowed to drive the Bus
> topless, you figgered it ought to be you. Right Diane?
> Admit it.
I wish she'd quit driving and come over here and sit down on my lap.
> Steve Fishman <xxxx@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>Are YQ'l! Q~ting her or Qm~th!ng? What is that last crack for?
>
> " A joke, Oh Clueless One.
Go to the back of the bus, Steve.
>>And yes_, yol! j.ust -.c.onfj;_;gnedwhy I mentioned her being your littl!3
>>p_1J.ppe-t;.
> ' -- .
> ;('.Get a grip,
. f oo.
I bet he has a grip; he justs needs advice in stroking up and down, and
you're just the man to give it to him, right?
>>And to th~~- there was once a time ~hen J c~e_on this newsgroup
>>-t;hat -I rea-1-1-y -looked up to you an__g._
.I ;r,!3_a_J._;l:y
lik~g, yg-g. J ~-
> ('
-
> , Hmm. What a concept! The same may one day be said to you,
> Steve.
If he's lucky, yes.
>>~h~t a fgg;l_ l was.
> ['
> '*Am*, Steve. "What a fool I am."
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Could you rid~ Steve

the poor bugger.
ttyl,
a bit
harder? I think you're
being *way* too kind to
martin.
Cogito, ergo sum. http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/Nav282 "I am not familiar

with the Church of Scientology. If I were to define them by their
representatives, I would believe them to be coercive, obnoxious,
oppressive, rude and hysterical." -- joe@zippo.com
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From: sose278720@aol.com (SOse278720)
Date: 16 May 1996 00:33:16 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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sose278720@aol.com wrote:
>OOOOOOH,I love it! Now Steve is not simply a liar who invented Lavenda
>to back up his story, he is an OSA plant!
DENNIS:
"I don't know WTF you are, nor do I really care, SteveO. 11
Actually, you do know me, Dennis. we exchanged some friendly e-mail last
fall at the time when you were taking quite a bit of heat over Andrew
"pearls-before-swine" Greenberg {the old Andrew, before he, mellowed out).
I made it clear that I didn't agree with the roasting you were getting.
Now I don't agree with the roasting Steve is getting.
DENNIS:
"If you want
to allege that Steven is an OSA agent, make your case. I'll listen.
"But it certainly seems you have some purpose in twisting *my* words.
I merely said that if we were placing relative likelihoods on who is
OSA and who isn't, I'd have to place David Mayo as a zero possibility
and Steven's possibly much highter."
'Snot true, Dennis, I have no "purpose" in "twisting" your words. I was

not, in fact, responding to your comment about DM {was that not clear in
my post?). I was responding to this:
REV. GYPSY JOKER:
>Do you have
>any evidence that Celsio = Steve? Personally, I *REALLY*doubt it. I've
>been writing and editing for sometime now and as much as a person may try
>to "write as someone else" little bits of style and certain phrases
always
>seem to blow their cover.
DENNIS:
"If Steve were helping OSA, they'd have no trouble setting up
~~ditio~al account/personnatlltor him. This is precise~hat he was
expert in doing, after all."
REV. GYPSY JOKER:
>None of this was evident to me in Celsio's post.
>If you've got evidence that Celsio is Fishman post it, otherwise please
>stick to the facts.
This is the post I was referring to, Dennis, did I misinterprate it? o(
course, I did notice that you also brought up the OSA/Steve link to David.
DENNIS:
"We have evidence that Steven is zoomin' us with some of the 'facts'
in his biographical fantasy.
"Does that count?"
Not unless it was clearly declared to be 100% fact. You stated that it
"appeared" that it was supposed to be. I find it difficult to believe
that a book with so much detailed dialogue from 15 years ago could
possibly be "100% fact" ; my assumption, since, it obviously does contain
fact, is that it is an artful mixture of fact and fiction. If that's the
case, it can't be taken as evidence of the veracity of the author one way
or the other.

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Subject: Instructions from Ford Greene, Esq.
From: xenu@ix.netcom.com(STEVEN FISHMAN)
Date: 1996/05/19
Message-Id: <4nm85d$lmv@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>
X-Netcom-Date: Sat May 18 9:30:37 PM PDT 1996
Dear alt.religion.scientology,
I have been instructed by my lawyer not to discuss matters which are

the subject of pending litigation.
I will miss participating in discussions of these things, however,

winning in court is currently my top priority.
I am looking forward to continuing to participate in discussions of all

other areas and topics on this newsgroup which I love very much.
With Best Wishes,
Steve Fishman
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Subject: Re: The whole Fishman thing

Date: 1996/05/23
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inForm@primenet.com (Rev. Dennis L Erlich) writes:
> sose278720@aol.com (S0se278720) wrote:
> >based on the fact that Dennis repeatedly referred to me as Scieno,

> >OSA, and Trojan Horse,
> Post the articles where I did, you lying sack o shit.
Is it me, or do all ministers talk like this?
---Steve Fishman
> Rev. Dennis L Erlich **the inFormer * *

> <dennis.l.erlich@support.com>
> <inForm@primenet.com>
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Date: 1996/05/24
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inForm@primenet.com (Rev. Dennis L Erlich) writes:
> Steve Fishman <xenu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >Is it me, or do all ministers talk like this?
> It's you, turd.
If name calling makes you happy, go for it.
> If you want absolution you need to confess to what you've been doing
> here and feel some remorse for deceiving the clueless wogs. Until
I do not need or want absolution.
Calling people on this newsgroup "clueless wogs" doesn't enhance

you. It is demeaning and insulting to many.
Better to search within for the source of your upset and start
confronting it with good reality and truth.
Better yet, write up your own autobiography. There's always

room for the "Lonesome Informer".
With Best Wishes,
Steve Fishman
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police and confirmed that althought !had been raped
once in 1982, it was not at all as described on the internet
and she had not had any part in the postings that were being
done in her name. I !confirmed that these postings were
in fact being forged.
If there was a rape of._ _____________ - it
b6
had nothing whatsoever to do with my client, and furthermore b7C
under Florida law, it is a criminal act to publicly disclose
the name of a rape victim. Doing so over the internet
compounds the crime due to the potentially large number of
readers.
Finally, on June 2nd it was revealed by an anonymous b6

message which was posted to alt.reli ion.scientology, that b7C
I !himself had set u the aol.com 11 account in
the name of a student at the
'
U~ive~~ity,of Florida-n Gainesville. According.o this

;nformation,I lpays for this account in the name of I b6
I !by "electronic transfer" ,nd was using this account b7C
o forge messages from I _(TAB E)
It
is clear that! !stage managed this whole b6
b7C
scenario in order to maliciously defame my client and hold
them up to scorn and contempt on the internet.
The following are the names under which._l ___ __.lhas

established accounts at AOL:
I
(He uses the screen name of
I ~aol. corn")
b6
b7C
the account through which
osted the messages from
aol. corn")
b6
._____ ~lhas shown by his irresponsible and criminal b7C
acts that he has violated the terms of use on the internet
and therefore should be removed from America Online.
Feel free to contact me if I can be of any assistance

in providing you with more information.
Sincerely,
b6
b7C
,,
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Subject: The LaVenda Agenda
Date: 31 May 1996 19:16:05 -0700
Lines: 84
Message-ID: <31afa556.22231058@news.primenet.com>
X-Posted-By: ipl87.lax.primenet.com
I got this little gem in my mailbox today:
>To: inForm@primenet.com
>Subject: Fishman WAS Posting as Lavenda!@#$%
>From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 03:01:50 +0200 (MET DST)
>Dennis,
>After reading the attached article on ars I could not resist in a
>little harmless hacking. I suspected that Fishman was lying and I was
>able to verify conclusively this was the case.
>Based on the posting below, it is evident that Mr. Fishman can spin off
>lies in the most sincere tones of anyone I have ever seen on the
>internet. He is playing to a gullable audience who, for the most part
>have NO experience in the Church of Scientology and thus have accepted
>Fishman's claims without question, while rejecting mountains of evidence
>that Fishman is a con artist with a criminal record, who concocted and
>carried out the fraudulent schemes which sent him to prison. Along the
>way, he attempted to frame Scientology and was also convicted for this.
>When Fishman appeared on ars, his story was believed again by nearly one
>and all.
>I am sending you the information below, which I will tell you how to
>verify if you care to, so as to put to rest the question about whether
>Fishman is lying about the LaVenda posts. I cannot explain why he feels
>compelled to make up these lies. When caught, he will undoubtedly come
>Up with some new explanation to blame it on Scientology. I just don't
>buy it and I have the proof it was Fishman.
>I have verified that Fishman WAS posting the articles from
>"lavends@aol.com 11
which is a user I.D. under an account which he pays
>for. Here is how it was set up:
>The postings were done through an account in the name of "Xxxxxx
>Xxxxx" at xxxx XXth St., XxxxxXXX, Florida (tel: xxx/xxx-xxxx)
>who has the 11 lavends@aol.com 11
user I.D. as a screen name.
>Who is 11
Xxxxx Xxxxx? 11 It turns out that this is Steve Fishman's
>daughter Y.~~cG~~xx~~~cc~~xx~~DG~~~xxx~~~Dcc~~xx The account is
>1?e,ig~paid ' 11electronically
~account.
>the billing
- 11
by Steven Fif;lhman,
Call America Online at 1-800-827~6364
department. You will have to wait

probably from a bank
and get put through to
a long time but if you
>say you are Fishman and want to get a current statement on the
> 11lavends@aol.com 11
account you can verify what I have said.
>I suppose making that the truth known, that Fishman is a cumpulsive
>liar, will get him a certain amount of sympathy on ars. So be it.
>Maybe his lies about how Scientology made him do it all will still be
>believed. People will believe what they want to in the final analysis,
>Whether based on fact or not.
>As certain as the sun rises, Fishman was responsible for the
>"lavends@aol.com" postings and is lying to the newsgroup trying to
>mislead one and all. Truth is something which Fishman has shown he
>cannot deal with.
>An anonymous hacker
>(If you re-post this, please delete the personal information about
>Xxxxxx as she may simply be an innocent victim.)
>=========================================
>(The following is a quote from Steve Fishman dated: Wed
>May 08 1:39:45 PM 1996; Message-Id:
><4mqpph$kt2@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>)
>>I never thought I would have to make this ridiculous satement, but
>>I am NOT Lavenda Van Schaick, never have been and never will be!
>>I do not post anonymously, under anyone esle's name, and I made
>>that clear from day one after the first forged Fishman post
>>appeared. Under oath I would say the very same thing.
>>Steve Fishman
>>The a.r.s. Rottweiler
>=============================================
Like I said, who's zoomin' who?

.
(09/19/94)

To: Los Angeles
From: Los Angeles
Squad C-1
Contact: SA
Approved By~ I b6
b7C
Drafted By:1 __________ ......skn

Title: UNSUB;
Synopsis: Captioned matter being closed administratively.
Details: Captioned matter was initiated based on a message

posted to the Internet on 5/17/96 wherein an anonymous writer,
"Concerned citizen", warned that! !a former Church b6
of Scientology member, was planning terrorist acts against the b7c
church and its members. The terrorist acts included the
assassinations of church members John Travolta, Tom Cruise,
Kirstie Alley, Parker Stevenson, and an attack at the premiere of
the movie Mission Impossible. The message was transmitted via an
anonymous re-mailer in order to hide the identity of the true
sender .
._ _______ ___.IAttorney for the Church of Scientology,
provided extensive background information to FBI Los Angeles
regarding! I whom the Church believes is responsible
for posting the warning message. I !is known to partake in b6
personal on-line fueding against I !via the Internet news b7C
group "Alt.religion.scientology", a discussion forum used to
critici~e the Church. During an interview by FBI Miami, however,
I Jadamantly denied having any involvement in or prior
knowledge of the Internet message. Investigation conducted to
identify the sender of the message met with negative results and
failed to link! !to the message.
CLOSED I
aLOSED ADMINl"-'Tn,.-ii,
5-USAD ATION
JAN2 I 1997
C, INVESTIGATION
OR F I LOS
ANGELES
PROSECUTION COMPLETED
'3 Cter--ee
1.~
. .

~
To: Los Angeles From: Los Angeles

Re: 9A-LA-198191, January 15, 1997
During subsequent contacts witq~'-----------~

Security Director, Church of Scientology, l I
indicated that the Church of Scientology had recently been the
victim of other threats, unrelated to captioned matter.I.____ ~ b6
b7C
advised he was therefore pursuing the matter and in the process
of compiling additional information regarding the activities of
._..,,..,,,..,........,...-Ito
be forwarded directly to the writ,r. To qate, no
additional information has been forwarded by
Inasmuch as there has been no evidence of planned
----- I
terrorist or threatening action related to the posted Internet

message, the message does not appear to be a legitimate threat
against the Church of Scientology. Also, inasmuch as no
additional information has been developed and no additional
related threats/warnings have been posted to the Internet
regarding the Church of Scientology, it is recommended captioned
matter be closed administratively .

b6
OTSCASPRT Superior Cot. of- California, County of.verside b7C
8/02/01 CASEPRINT Page: l
SUPERIORCOURT-C
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~ASENUMBER: HEM01437l DEFENDANTSTATUS: Warrant
~RRESTNBR: DR00201037 ARRESTDATE .... : 7/19/00
JtREST AGY : PilZ SHERIFF CQTJNTY)HEM
>efendant-- . :._I_______ _.J Defn: 1 of l
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District Attorney :
Defense Attorney :.i...,..............---~
I Continuances:
Age in Days:
25
321
Custody Status ... : N/A - Bail: Last Trial . : 08/02/0l.
:harge Information
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) 01 ARE._ES-022_:E_Q) ,._CRIMINAD.HREATS--. None F
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)02 FILED 66.4/M422 PC Att/Terrorist Threats Death-- None Active M
)03 FILED c422-;-6.~Pc--\ cin~imfdate-/.thre.at.en/opress bee NG Convict M
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1320 (A) PC
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~arrant Information
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Date Issued Status
Bail
Amount
Affidavit
Date
Bench 05/16/01 Issued $0.00 00/00/00
Case Action Information
hction
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Div Description I
Status
7/20/01 H4 ------------------~-----
Motion SENTENCING OF DEFENDANT IN ABSENTIA Dispo
Honorable JUDGEROBET W TEIN Presiding.
Courtroom Assistra=n=t~-~.._ __ ...,__ ___J
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Court Reporter:!-- ........ ........
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People Represente y1.- ____ .......,,.~
Defendant Represented By,______ ~
Defendant is Not Present. . b6
At 10:20, the. following proceedings were held: b7C
Motion ByTHE PEOPLERegarding SENTENCING
DEFENDANT is called for hearing.
Arguments heard as to sentencing defendant in
absentia.
Per counsel defendant has appl_ied for
refugee/asylum status in Canada.
I !addresses the Court.
Motion. Granted.
The following conditions commence upon
defendants return to accept or deny probation.
Defendant is sentenced to serve 365 days
OTSCASPRT Supe_rior co,A of California, County of--ve_rside
8/02/0f 1111' CASE PRINT - Page: 2
SUPERIORCOURT-C
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
~ASENUMBER: HEM014371 DEFENDANT STATUS: Warrant,
J{RESTNBR: DR00201037 ARRESTDATE .... : 7/1_9/00
J{REST AGY. :=I :~~ ::::~:: ~JOUNTY) HEM 6
>ef_end_ant
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. _ __
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with no ea~lf r~lease and no work furlough - - -- - - ---
in county jai_l which shal_l be suspended.
on the condition that the defendant be placed
on Summary probation for 3 years.
Defendant would serve 180 days straight time.
As to Count(s) 003 Pay Total Fine of $2700.00,
include assessments, to the Clerk of Court as
directed by Financial Services.
Defendant to submit to search of person
automobile - residence - garage - storage
areas - p~rsonal or leased prop~rty with
or without reasonable cause by any law
enforcement or probation officer.
Stay away order remains in place -
Defendant to stay away from Golden Era
Productions - and stay off of road that.
Golden Era Productions occupies between
State Street and Sanderson.
Oral Motion By THE PEOPLEregarding ORDERING
RESTITUTIONis called for hearing.
Motion Denied.
If defendant does not agree to probation
terms he wi.ll serve the 365 days.
Attorney Harr: is rel_ieved as counsel of
record.
Bench Warrant Remains Outstanding (BWAR)
COUNT4 REMAINSOUTSTANDING.
**MINUrE ORDEROF COURTPROCEEDING**
**** ENDOF CASE PRINT****
This must be in red to be a

"CERTIFIEDCOPY~
Each document to which this certificate
is attached is certified to be a full,
true and correct copy of the original
on file and of record in my office
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Dated
Certification must be in red to be a
"CERTIFIEDCOPY"
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SUPERIORCOURTOF CALIFORNIA,COUNTY
880 N. State Street
Hemet, CA, 92543
-
OF RIVERSIDE
b6
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~eople ..
of the Staee
, of California
CASE NO, HEM01437l
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Jury Trial (Jury Deliberating)
Datei.04/26/01 Time: 9:00 am Dept/Div: H4
====a-=====w==========
Charges: l) 422 PC-MA, 2) 664/M422 PC-MA, 3) 422.6 PC-MC
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Honorc>le ROBD.TH. IY!,!,"""-it~~N. Presiding.
- __________-
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Court:roomAssistant:
People Repreaented ;~~;:;~~~::::::::.-
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Defenflant Represente By..__ ____ ___,
At l0tl6, the following proce ngs were held;
out of the Presence Of the Jury, the following.proceedings were
held: JURY DDDLOCI<ED
Clf TWOCOUNTS
Court and counsel Confer regarding: DEADLOCJC
At 10;25, the following proceedings were held:
COURTIN SESSION: ALL PAR.TIESPRESENT.
Member of the Jury,and Alternate(s) ARE present
court Trial Commences.
At 10~27 jurors indicate THEYARE DEADLOCKED
AS TO COUNTS#l AND
,#2 -
'Court declare mistrial on COUNSEL'Smotion as to count(s) l 2.
At lOtJO jury returns with a verdict.
we tbe Jury 1n the above entitled action, find the DeftJ I
I :1 GUILTYr in caint 3 of a violation of Section 42~.6 PC.
Oral ~otion By~___ ____,JregardingPOLLINGOF JURORSis called for
hearitig.
Mocion Granted.
JuroiARB Polled on the Verdict(s) and ALL jurors answer inthe
affi tive.
Juror are Thanked and Bxcuaed,
Defen~t Ordered to Report To: PROBATION F/WFOR PULLREPORT
PRIOR 'l'O SENTENCE,
Report and Sentence Hearing aet on 05/16/2001 at. 11:00 in Dept.
H4.
Defenfsant Ordered to Return.
Relea ed on conditional O.R. on the following term(s) STAYAJfAY
FR.OM LDENPRODUCTICIJ
DEFT I S ORDEREDTO STAY OFF OF ROAD THAT GOLDEN
=~~ ~~S OCCUPIES'FllOMBBTWEEN
5 STATEAND
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Precedence: ROUTINE Date: 05/30/1996

Approved I ______ Ir/)(

Drafted By:_l _________ ~tjl

Details: For information, captioned matter was predicated on a

On 5/22/96, writer again recontacted~I_,,....,,...---,,-----,,-----'

Precedence: ROUTINE Date: 06/10/1996

Enclosures: Enclosed for Miami is a one(l) page copy of the

Details: For information of Miami, captioned case was predicated

r--------------i,.....,,. _________ ......

1/I 't} :i:uiEDM

send e-mail via the Internet without fear of discovery. Although

I !has provided Los Angeles with extensive

I !is very active on the Internet. He is deeply

V . Da:.e: Fri, 17 May 1996 02 . : 3-9 -0700 .

MAY17 '96 10:22 P~E.01

Precedence: ROUTINE Date: 06/10/1996

To: LOS ANGELES Attn: SAC

From: SA~I ---------~

Details: For information, on 5t:0/96, writer telephonically

Detective! !acknowledged knowing about the

The following t'nvestigation was conducted by Special Agent b6

On May 28, 1996, SA._ _________ ...., of the Federal

._ __ ___.!advised that as a result of the threat and his

._ __ __,!stated that he was willing to cooperate with the FBI b6

Precedence: ROUTINE Date: 08/06/1996

Case ID#: 9A-LA-198191 (Pending)

,---'t~r ',, c:::fjt{Z

and molested his daughters in the past, but still continues to

Precedence: ROUTINE Date: 07/29/1996

Case ID#: 9A-LA-198191 (Pending)

Details: For information, writer is scheduled to attend Polygraph

FLOOR. LOS ANGELE.$, <;ALIFOF,NIA 90067-5010

Agent 0.rtiz showed me a document which was sent through an anonymous

Agent O~tiz, whose telephone nllltlber in Mial\'\i is (305) 7Bi-6610, asked me if

!f the pe:cpetrator is reading this, better turn yourself in to the FBI

2of3 08/06/96 09:16:02

ls it you, Eugene Ingram? Sure s~lls like it,

~ith Best Wishes,

Precedence: ROUTINE Date: 11/21/1996

Case ID#: 9A-LA-198191 (Pending)

Details: On 10/8/96, writer telephonically contacted_! _____ ...._~

had more incidents involving threats and subsequent violence

Abelson advised he will forward the promised b6

LA~ OFFICES ..I

OF COUNSEL._! ____ ___,

May 20, 1996

VIA HAND DELIVERY

Special Agent._l _____ l b6

Dear Special Agent._! ___ ~

5. Copies of recent postings by._l__ I_____________

Re: Internet Terrorist Threat

The attached anonymous .e-mail message was received via

._ _________ lhas never been a practicing member of

written by him while in jail, is a compilation of many of b6

2. 5 May 1996 - posting byl lin which he admitted

5. 13 May 1996 - posting

6. 13 May 1996 - posting by I taking a art I a

7. 14 May 1996 - osting by! !in response

9. 15 May 1996 - posting by a.r.s. individual quoting

10. 15 May 1996 - posting by! !where he questions

11. 15 May 1996 - postin;.:......=..'--1,,-.-------responding to

13 19 May 19 9 6 - posting by I !regarding his

._ _.!advised that as a result of the threat and his

._ ,!stated that he was willing to cooperate with the FBI b6

OF COUNSEL._! __ _,

5. Copies of recent postings by._l I___________

The following are the names under which._l _ .lhas