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Kiran Trivedi In Pakistan Lashkar E Taiba & Jaish E Mohumd setting up relief camps for flood-hit people
is akin to our own RSS n VHP doing the same for earth quakes. A ploy to garner social sanction n
credibility with a hidden agenda to get recruits. These are communal fundamentalist forces, feeding on
human misery.
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Kavita Sharma True!

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Amit Pandya That is the reason the international community, including the US, is not liberal in extending any finacial help to
Pakistan; they are afraid that the "failed state" may divert the monetary aid to help the jihadis.

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Mehul Jamang Kiranbhai -- Tame jo Pakistan ma hot to ane enemy contry na traswadi sanstha ne potani conuntry ni ek biji
sanstha sathe comparision karvani tamari Himat no thai hot...Himat to shu Vichar aavata pan dhruji jat. I am nowhere
connected with RSS/VHP or BJP, but comparing them with Lashkar e T n Jaish ???? Lokshahi ni sauthi moti karunata tame
loko chho...ane pachha aavi vato ne biradava wada pan padya chhe !!!??? to hell with democracy

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Parthiv Patel

Have you visited or are you in contact with Lashkar E Taiba & Jaish E Mohumd ?? Then how come you are comparing RSS
and VHP with them..!! If you can't do good work like RSS or VHP then atleast don't compare them with Terrorist
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Manas Paul

This comparison is WRONG.

LET and JEM are TERRORIST organizations. The RSS and VHP are not....there are fundamental differences between
'fundamentalists' and 'terrorists'...
Jaish was responsible for Plane hijack (Kandahar) and LeT was for ...See More

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Sukumar M. Trivedi LET and JEM and RSS and VHP are all fundamentalists. That RSS and VHP have not indulged in terrorist
acts so far does not make them any less dangerous.All fundamentalists- christian, Hindu, mulsim, jewish.. have a tendency
to become terrorists.So RSS and VHP cannot be trusted not to resort to terrorism if they think that it is an option needed to
achieve their goals. Just because they are not terrorists today does not guarantee that they will not become tomorrow.

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Kiran Trivedi

@Manas. I am comparing these outfits on their singular move of holding relief camps and calling them "communal
fundamentalist forces". I have not used word 'terrorist' in this argument, you brought in that and built your whole argument
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Parthiv Patel Hmm.. By living in Gujarat sir you can say these all authentically then I can also say by living in Gujarat and
exploring the whole world by comparing all very authentically :) that RSS and VHP are not Terrorist organization. Looks like
you have some "Fundamental" problems with them. I ain't supporter of any kind of organizations though RSS and VHP are
not Terrorist org.

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Rajiv Shah Terrorism and communalism are the two sides of the same coin. Both believe in violence, both believe in
finishing off those who do not agree with them, both have long been against the Gandhian views on non-violence in political
life and both are anti-democratic. Hence, Parthiv, it is not sufficient to say that the RSS and the VHP are "not terrorist"
 bodies, yet they are communalist. Surely, one must fight the TWIN DANGERS OF TERRORISM AND COMMUNALISM which
are destroying our social fabric -- I am sure you will agree here

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Maloy K Dhar What's your problem with relief work by RSS and VHP. Have they killed any people? Why are you so rabid
anti-Hindu?

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Kusum Choppra they have always copied the montheist religions, to the extent of wanting to "organise" rather channelise
the glory of Hindu religion into narrow mental and physicla paths. this is one more attempt.

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Amit Dave I fully agree with Kiran Trivedi, Sukumar and Rajiv Shah. The biggest terrorist act of RSS was killing of Mahatma
Gandhi. Even recently authorities could establish a Hindu terror link in Malegaon and several other bomb blasts. Ex-army
men are also involved. Pogroms and riots are another form of terrorism. VHP and such outfits have found their hands in
such incidents. ShivSena has openly accepted that their sainiks were involved in Babri demolition.

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Samir Savani agree with parthiv.

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Anuraag Prapanna

Its very easy to talk and discuss and make statements...but its very difficult to work. In guj. earthquake, RSS was helping
needy people without asking them their religion...Kiran and Amit,I want to see u in such relief camps, helping huma...See
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Maloy K Dhar

Amit: Your history is incorrect, RSS did not kiill Gandhi. The shooter was not a votery of RSS. Have you heard of Newton's
Third Law of Motion. Excessive Muslim terrorism has invited Hindu reaction. How long, do you think, Hindus will remai...See
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Sukumar M. Trivedi

1.It is a matter of profound indifference whether Godse was a member of RSS per se or not. The operative part is that he
was a Hindu fundamentalist and murdered Gandhi, for no other reason than that that he saw him as a Muslim sympathiser
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Vineet Bhuwania Shameful ignorance. Red Cross, Medicine Sans Frontiers Lions Club and other organisations provide relief
and by default, manage to attract new recruits. By your logic, they are all ublically linked witht the Jehadis of world

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Rakesh Kalra Absolutely correct.........best wishes

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Amit Dave

84 or 2002 or bomb blasts like Malegaon...Hindu terrorism is reality... @Anuraag we are artists and we have done out bit
but in our own way. In 2002, we (Kiran, Manishi and Me) along with 100 odd artists created a movement called SAHIT -
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Vineet Bhuwania

Can the bleeding heart club move ahead and have anything substantial to offer, other than sloganeering and name-calling?
Logic and facts seem to have no place in this weird worldview.

When the 'fact' behind Gandhi murder is exposed to be 'ca...See More

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Sukumar M. Trivedi Blowing in the wind. Declaring detail as principle and declaring facts as false without falsifying. And then
preaching eye for an eye. accusing people urging not to be violent against violence because it is an endless sequence as
loonies. Unmistakable ingredients of a mind fogged by myopia and fanaticism.

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Vineet Bhuwania

One's whose contentions stand on edifice of lies claims truth as one's own! Gandhi murder... bashing since
inception..terrorism since 1984..Give us a
Break! The one seeking to blame the victims while condoning violent acts of others claims p...See More

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Manas Paul

The RSS or VHP are certainly not holy organizations....but before accusing them of some terrorist attacks some points
needed to be looked into. While all terrorists are fundamentalists, not all the fundamentalists are terrorists. For exampl...See
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Then some more points:

1. The Hindu organizations were accused of Samjhuta express, Mecca Masjid etc attacks. NIA is now probing into it. But a
popular perception was already created by Indian and Pakistani media that the Hindu outfits were ...See More

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Manas Paul in my first post --I typed 'fundamentalist' in place of 'communal'...referring to RSS and VHP..this was an
inadvertant mistake that I found while reading it afterwards...let me stand corrected..as i tried to explain in my second post.

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Maloy K Dhar Do not the Hindus have right to react to action by their adversaries? Is it a crime? In that case the whole law
of physics is wrong. Action has Reaction. Soon we may expect Hindu reaction to Kashmir conspiracy by Pakistan. If an
IMBECILE govt. cannot act than people come up and act.

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Maloy K Dhar

Moreover, angry Hindu youths have started breaking away from RSS and forming small "cells" of terror for action against
Muslims who, according to them are goaded and financed by Pakistan. Malegaon is one such group. I am aware of at least
7...See More

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Manas Paul Such groups will pose a serious threat indeed....in assam it will be a denagerous development...

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Amit Dave @MK DHAR You accept the fact that there are hindu terror groups.
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Doctorr Gols

i dunno wht to say,but how can someone compare a terror organization with terror foot prints across the world buddies of
al qaeeda with rigt wing grps in india .wht conclusions shld we draw from it? either the person who proposes such a
the...See More

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Sukumar M. Trivedi

Dear VB. What kind of a break do you want? Was Gandhi's murderer not a Hindu Fundemenatalist, even if was not a
member of the RSS? Is it not a fact the Isalmist terrorism started in India only after 1984 with Zia-ul- haq's turning Pakistan
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Vineet Bhuwania

Mr SMT. It was you who dismissed the fact of Godse not being an RSS member as inconsequential. Does it not display a
disdain for truth when the thread had picked up that point? Where does RSS come in here? Of course, Godse was a hindu
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Sukumar M. Trivedi

1. Refer to my post again. I said that whether Godse was a RSS member or not is only a matter of detail, the principle is
that he was a fundamentalist. The crux of the discussion is fundamentalism and terrorism not fundamentalist of one gr...See
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Ajay Vyas RSS & VHP are not sending terrorist to Pakistan. Please do not make false comparisions.

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Ajay Vyas If you are calling yourself a rational, be truely a rational and not biased.

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Ajay Vyas If you make such comparisons you are proving yourself a terrorist in a democratic nation so you are lucky that
you are surviving.

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Doctorr Gols

@kiran jii see this is wht is happening whn u close ur eyes and ears to the other side,whn u refuse to listen to the other
school of thought .whn u refuse to to talk in a rational way ,whn u generalize ppl as rightist,leftists .it is very...See More

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Vineet Bhuwania

Sorry Sukumar. That your responses are now more reasonable cannot wish away the fact that accusing any person /
organization of a crime without any basis is calumny. Defending such accusations or justifying them tangentially does not
dimini...See More

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 Maloy K Dhar

Dear Sukumar. Little more light is necessary. As former IB boss I can assert Islamic terror strted way back in 1975. It was
revamped after 1980. Two Bhuttos had hands in it. RSS had startec with Akhand Hindu Rashtra slogan. Now it is dilute...See
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Sukumar M. Trivedi

Dear VB and MD, the long and short of our discussion ( I am happy that it has continued this far) in spite of all the
arguments and counter arguments boils down to this. We may see history, facts or actions of the opposite camps in our
own ...See More

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Kiran Trivedi I thank Sukumar, Amit, Rajiv n Manas for providing alternative views to these arguing Indians. Others would
have to thank me for providing this temporary 'adda' for their 'kushti'. :)

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Manas Paul All these arguments were indeed very enriching. Special thanks to Vineet, Sukumar and MK Dhar Sir. And Kiran
Trivedi Sir you really deserve kudos....

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Doctorr Gols

lol lol
kiran ji u have tht gift of jab ,and its rare not endowed to all
temporary adda for there kushti ,koin itna bhi vella nahein hain ki he wld comment just for the sake of commenting on
someones profile
this topic was really very ridicu...See More

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